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Wednesday, May 04, 2016

The refusal to learn

The New York Times is aghast at Donald Trump's challenge to the bifactional ruling party:
This is a moment of reckoning for the Republican Party. It’s incumbent on its leadership to account for the failures and betrayals that led to this, and find a better way to address them than the demagogy on offer.

Republicans haven’t yet begun to grapple with this. Instead they’re falling into line.

Republican leaders have for years failed to think about much of anything beyond winning the next election. Year after year, the party’s candidates promised help for middle-class people who lost their homes, jobs and savings to recession, who lost limbs and well-being to war, and then did next to nothing. That Mr. Trump was able to enthrall voters by promising simply to “Make America Great Again” — but offering only xenophobic, isolationist or fantastical ideas — is testimony to how thoroughly they reject the politicians who betrayed them.

Now, myopic as ever, Republican leaders are talking themselves into supporting Mr. Trump. At a party retreat in Florida last month, Mr. Trump’s adviser Paul Manafort, brought in to make the candidate seem safer to the old guard, assured them that Mr. Trump will better prepare himself for the presidency. “That was all most of these guys needed to hear,” said an operative in the room. “Maybe he’s trainable.” But within a day, Mr. Trump was back to making vile comments at his rallies. In his confused foreign policy address, he demonstrated nothing but a willful refusal to learn.
Xenophobia and isolationism are to be vastly preferred to the treasonous fantasies of the Republican and Democratic politicians alike. There is nothing confusing about Trump's foreign policy: what is hard to understand about America First for anyone who doesn't have other objectives in mind?

If the Republican Party doesn't fall in line behind Donald Trump, it might as well cease to exist and its members can go where they belong, to the ironically-named, anti-democratic Democratic Party.

And to all those conservatives and Republicans crying about how Trump is certain to lose to Clinton, ask yourself this: why doesn't the great left-liberal standard sound a whole lot happier about Trump being the Republican nominee? Do they sound like people who are confident of victory?

Let's hope Donald Trump continues to refuse to learn from the USA's failed, anti-American political class.

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120 Comments:

OpenID aew51183 May 04, 2016 5:06 AM  

dem·a·gogue
ˈdeməˌɡäɡ/
noun
a political leader who seeks support by appealing to popular desires and prejudices rather than by using rational argument.


These elitists keep using this term as if it's derogatory, but don't "popular desires and prejudices" simply add up to common sense?

They're railing against common sense and nobody has been calling them on this, not even Trump.

Anonymous Tarzan, Lord Of The Apes May 04, 2016 5:14 AM  

I'm actually hoping this WILL be the destruction of the "Republican" Party.

Lord knows, all that will be left are the Mexicans, Chinese, and the blacks...or, whatever color they are.

No Obama Phones....no Peace!

Anonymous Napoleon 12pdr May 04, 2016 5:20 AM  

The next month is going to be painful. Trump wasn't my first, second, or even third choice, but the wailing, gnashing of teeth, and general defeatism I've seen from some quarters is already getting on my nerves.

Blogger SteelPalm May 04, 2016 5:20 AM  

Hopefully, Hillary will continue to sputter against the self-hating Stalin-lover Sanders as Trump lays back, relaxes, and unites the right wing.

Blogger Sherwood family May 04, 2016 5:23 AM  

I have a number of close acquaintances who are stunned and horrified by Donald Trump. They view him as the end of all respectable conservative discourse in politics.

What I cannot get them to do is explain, in concrete terms, why they think he is so bad. Much of it concerns tone. But on policy they are at a loss. They can only argue that immigration is great, wars and interventions have to happen to keep the world safe, etc.

On policy they responses are hysterical (not in the funny way). The concern that keeps coming up is Trump getting us into war which is so far removed from what Trump has actually said as to be painful.

When one points out Hilary's serial interventions and the death and destruction that have resulted and then the Cruz, Kasich, etc. side of the neocon coin it is not hard to come to the conclusion that it is a classic case of projection.

The establishment types want war but they want to be at the helm and in a position to profit thereby. They can't understand a man like Trump that does not want a war and has no ideology to impose on other nations. So they project that he will start wars in the name of nationalism and that makes him a fascist/Nazi, etc.

They cannot understand that they are swimming in a sea of International Socialist memes that prevent them from noticing that enforcing a global ideology is not only not "conservatism" it is its antithesis and it has only been in the last 20 years when that the two have somehow become conflated in the public mind.

Anonymous TS May 04, 2016 5:24 AM  

"They have learned nothing and forgotten nothing." - Talleyrand

Blogger weka May 04, 2016 5:54 AM  

Cruz is smart. He will do a deal: Trump is a pragmatist and will make sure Cruz has a deal. They will unite.

The left, however, will split gloriously. It will be so fabulously gay. And by that I don't mean Steve, Chuck or Milo. I mean pathetic.

Blogger WrenchTurner May 04, 2016 5:57 AM  

Hail Victory

Blogger WrenchTurner May 04, 2016 5:57 AM  

Hail Victory

Blogger Joshua Sinistar May 04, 2016 6:06 AM  

Cruz went down faster than The HMS Hood. Buh, bye. Napoleon Dynamite sounds suicidal. Hey there's only one Real Napoleon and it ain't you. Sherwood Forest has a cokie problem. New Cokie Sherwood like you to clap, but that ain't the clap she got. Oh, po' Little Jebbie, now he has to mosey back to Motel Six and ax his brother Neil for a loan.
What will it be now? Will the CIA do another Lone Gunman. Man, but that's getting old. If they Hate Trump, wait til they see the Next Guy. Its Springtime for Hitler and Everyone on the Far Right. Fascism is the Future.
The Future is NOW. Join the Mobile Infantry, get Citizenship. The BUG Army is weak. Both their Queens look old. That Bernie looks more like a muppet than a Brain Bug. His brain hasn't worked any more than he has, which is None.
WEIMAR 2.0 is Down. I guess it was Winders number 10 running on an iCrap with Siri looking for the wrong Cruz.

Blogger Lovekraft May 04, 2016 6:09 AM  

The New York Times is only relevant for people who want to monitor how delusional liberal elitists and their hipster 'problem-glasses'-wearing urbanites are.

Legacy media like the NYT failed miserably at monitoring No-Borders Barack's rise, not to mention meekly obeying Washington during the last miserable eight years. They deserve scorn.

Unless this newspaper actively purges all sjw, open-borders, multicult ideologies, it will be dragged down into the pit which most (sjw-infested) organizations deserve to be.

Anonymous Clay May 04, 2016 6:17 AM  

Um. Is that ecstasy?

Blogger Rantor May 04, 2016 6:23 AM  

The victory is yuge. The fight against Hillary's hateful harridans or Bernie's Bumbling Bolsheviks shall be glorious!

Blogger Legion of Logic May 04, 2016 6:26 AM  

"What I cannot get them to do is explain, in concrete terms, why they think he is so bad."

On his stated policies, sure there isn't much issue. Far better than Hillary. The problem is that Donald Trump is a lying, petty, bullying, childish, flip flopping excuse for a poor loser (every time he lost a state or didn't get his way, he cried about it), and as such I don't believe a single word he says. The only person he could possibly be better than would be someone like Hillary Clinton, who is guaranteed to be a disaster. Being better than Hillary is not a compliment, however. It's the minimum of what should be expected of any human being.

Anonymous Ain May 04, 2016 6:44 AM  

"But within a day, Mr. Trump was back to making vile comments at his rallies. In his confused foreign policy address, he demonstrated nothing but a willful refusal to learn."

Don't fix something that isn't broken.

Blogger Cataline Sergius May 04, 2016 6:46 AM  

This is a moment of reckoning for the Republican Party. It’s incumbent on its leadership to account for the failures and betrayals that led to this,

Well, it was a promising start.

Anonymous trk May 04, 2016 7:01 AM  

The sun is out. Birds chirping. Democrats in shock and cucks gnashing teeth. What a beautiful day. Oh. And Hugo's as frosting.

Anonymous Clay May 04, 2016 7:03 AM  

I'd appreciate it if you would give the source of your quotes, Ain.

Blogger FALPhil May 04, 2016 7:14 AM  

@7 weka

Cruz is smart. He will do a deal: Trump is a pragmatist and will make sure Cruz has a deal

What would be the up side for Trump? I can't think of one.

Blogger FALPhil May 04, 2016 7:17 AM  

@18 Clay

Try clicking on the links in VD's blog post. Then you won't look like a moron.

Anonymous LurkingPuppy May 04, 2016 7:17 AM  

Clay wrote:I'd appreciate it if you would give the source of your quotes, Ain.

That was a quote from Vox's quote from the NYT piece which this post is about.

Blogger weka May 04, 2016 7:20 AM  

@FALPhil.
Cruz has a ground game and a machine. And Trumo needs his weasel on the supreme court. Or the wall will become unconstitutional

Anonymous Cheddarman May 04, 2016 7:22 AM  

FALphil, the upside for Trump would be unifying the base and getting the Cruz organization to pull for the Trump train. Expect to see the Donald reach out to Cruz the next couple of days to get him on board. He needs to unify the party base as much as possible.

Blogger Rick May 04, 2016 7:29 AM  

Donald Trump is going to set race relations back 60 years

Blogger Rick May 04, 2016 7:29 AM  

to when they began their decline

Blogger Lobo Util May 04, 2016 7:30 AM  

Apply the NYT comment to the Democrat leadership in Detroit, and what do you get? A whole other set of politicians thinking of nothing beyond the next election and their own personal chance to pilfer the public pocket.

Anonymous Ain May 04, 2016 7:30 AM  

Clay, it's from the New York Times article.

OpenID simplytimothy May 04, 2016 7:31 AM  

@FALPhil.
Cruz has a ground game and a machine. And Trumo needs his weasel on the supreme court. Or the wall will become unconstitutional


The hell with the courts, they, like the neocons have lost a lot of legitimacy.

William S. Lind just wrote on a 'pre-revolutionary' movement in https://www.traditionalright.com/the-election-what-really-matters/

Relevant quote:


The most likely direction such a pre-revolutionary situation would take, I think, is one for devolution: the movement of power away from Washington to state and local levels. This would not be a “mother-may-I”, hat-in-hand request to Washington for devolution, but concrete actions at state and local levels to seize power. On issues ranging from gay “marriage” to the use of GMO seeds, states and localities, through their governments or through direct action, would nullify rulings coming out of Washington. Should the Left obtain a five-vote majority on the Supreme Court, nullification by state governments might become a powerful movement in itself. State National Guards, forced to choose between home and Washington, might decide to take orders from home.


This party is just getting started.

Anonymous DJF May 04, 2016 7:36 AM  

"""It’s incumbent on its leadership to account for the failures and betrayals that led to this, and find a better way to address them than the demagogy on offer."""

You notice that the NYT does not offer any policy that will win back the voters

That is because the NYT supports the same policies as the Republican leadership. In fact they want even more of the same, more intervention, more 'free trade" deals, more immigration, more globalism, etc

Anonymous Stephen J. May 04, 2016 7:36 AM  

I have to admit that what Trump feels like, to me, is not so much a rebuke but a Hail Mary pass. As Vox has noted, Trump's single most powerful edge in this entire campaign has been his willingness to talk about the politically unspeakable, which in turn leads to the hope that he might, just might, be willing to actually *do* something about it. Coupled with the fatal perception that the Establishment won't or can't act, even someone who screws up in unusual or unexpected ways may create improvement by sheer accident.

What worries me is what may happen if and when Trump, out of either necessity or shortsighted error, does something that will feel like a betrayal to these voters. The backlash will not be pretty. But that is the risk of populism, and at least Trump seems to have th he guts to take it.

Blogger Chris Mallory May 04, 2016 7:45 AM  

"Donald Trump is going to set race relations back 60 years"

We can only hope.

Anonymous Jim Scrummy May 04, 2016 7:53 AM  

Who has not been entertained by this election season? Now that the R's have picked their candidate, the D's are still trying to get "Crusty the Clown" the nomination over Granny Cankels. I need to buy more popcorn, and enjoy that s-show. Should be fun!

Blogger peter blandings May 04, 2016 8:05 AM  

speaking of the acropolis:
Jesus. even cruz dropping out has only slightly moved the odds: 63 to 37 hillary. WTF. if trump falls back to 33 i have to go in big. that would give me 3 to 1 odds. the other interesting bet is christie vp at 12. that's up from 6 so maybe something is happening there.

with trump now unquestionably the nominee, something very large has happened. the establishment has been driven back, the media have been driven back. despite the most despicable, mendacious, vile, and underhanded tactics ever seen in our lifetimes, their heads have been handed to them. pikes wanted. line the road to athens with their shit smeared skulls.

Anonymous McGonzo May 04, 2016 8:12 AM  

"Republican leaders have for years failed to think about much of anything beyond winning the next election."

WTF? If there's only one main focus for the establishment, it SaF ain't winning elections, it is about keeping everything the same, doing the bidding of the donors and lobbyists, and not giving a rat's @$$ about anything the peasants. . .errr. . .voters want.

Anonymous The OASF May 04, 2016 8:17 AM  

"Let's hope Donald Trump continues to refuse to learn from the USA's failed, anti-American political class."

Yes. God willing, Mr. Trump will continue to deliver that knockdown blow.

His energetic fist should be ready to resist
A dictatorial word
His nose should pant and his lip should curl
His cheeks should flame and his brow should furl
His bosom should heave and his heart should glow
And his fist be ever ready for a knock-down blow

Anonymous kfg May 04, 2016 8:18 AM  

"Donald Trump is going to set race relations back 60 years"

Race relations 60 years ago: Having a dream and marching peacefully while singing uplifting songs.

Race relations now: Trashing and burning an appliance store and a CVS.

Blogger Rick May 04, 2016 8:21 AM  

Please don't make me explain my joke.

Anonymous Scintan May 04, 2016 8:28 AM  

Reagan wanted a legitimately defended border and penalties for those who employed illegals.

Reagan threw up tariffs against the Japanese.

Reagan called the U.S.S.R. "The evil empire".


Seems like Trump has some company in the "Not really a Republican" camp, if we're going to go down the exclusion path. The Times will be crushed about this, I know.

Anonymous The OASF May 04, 2016 8:31 AM  

"Race relations now: Trashing and burning an appliance store and a CVS."

Nonsense. Read Pat Buchanan's article that he wrote back in March. America has been putting up with this crap for 50 years now. It's just that the media can't cover it up anymore.

"Some of us have been here before, and know how this ends.

When the urban riots broke out in the ’60s, Hubert Humphrey declared that, if he lived in a ghetto, “I could lead a pretty good riot myself.”

At his 1968 convention in Chicago, radicals baited and provoked the cops in the front of the Conrad Hilton, and as this writer watched, their patience exhausted after days of abuse, Chicago’s finest tore into the mob and delivered some street justice."

http://buchanan.org/blog/brownshirts-republican-wimps-124952

Blogger Cecil Henry May 04, 2016 8:36 AM  

'Xenophobia' just means a people get to control their nation and have THEIR ethnic interests represented.


1.White people exist.

2. White people have the RIGHT to exist.

3. White people have the RIGHT to exist AS White people in White Communities and Nations.


The MSM dishonest and hypocrisy is contemptible.

Anonymous kfg May 04, 2016 8:49 AM  

"America has been putting up with this crap for 50 years now."

Q.E.D.

Anonymous Deadlocked May 04, 2016 9:19 AM  

kfg wrote:Race relations 60 years ago: Having a dream and marching peacefully while singing uplifting songs.

Race relations now: Trashing and burning an appliance store and a CVS.


60 years ago, blacks were marching ang singing because they couldn't use the same public facilities as whites. They couldn't attend the same public schools, use the same public toilets, or even sit in the same part of the bus.

Are you advocating a return to that?

Anonymous WinstonWebb May 04, 2016 9:26 AM  

DeadlockedMay 04, 2016 9:19 AM
kfg wrote:Race relations 60 years ago: Having a dream and marching peacefully while singing uplifting songs.

Race relations now: Trashing and burning an appliance store and a CVS.

60 years ago, blacks were marching ang singing because they couldn't use the same public facilities as whites. They couldn't attend the same public schools, use the same public toilets, or even sit in the same part of the bus.

Are you advocating a return to that?


No. But they are.

Anonymous TS May 04, 2016 9:26 AM  

"They have learned nothing and forgotten nothing." - Talleyrand

Quote made in reference to the GOP not Trump.

Blogger tz May 04, 2016 9:27 AM  

The related editorials at the bottom were equally clueless.

America First. Make America Great Again. Ultimately, that means the constitution but we are past a critical point, and we need to press Undo with even faster unconstitutionality than the errors were implemented. A flood of illegals will push things beyond the point. 20 trillion is already unpayable. Long term unemployment has already killed the spirit.

Talking about abstract rights or economic theories isn't what is needed.

Blogger Joshua Sinistar May 04, 2016 9:33 AM  

The enemy is STUPID and getting dumber. Full Retard does not roll back by itself. Trump is no extremist.. Its good they will stop him. Extremism is the minimum effort necessary to kill the parasites and rebuild the West.
They will double down again. Expect them to get "waciss" talk of Trump from the past. I expect the neo-cohen chickens will be all over dead air on Dinosaur Cable to denounce the waciss Whites for supporting Trump.
Everything is happening perfectly. I couldn't have done it better. The enemy is even dumber than I imagined. Their heavy handed lies are so brazen that when they shut down the Net, it will kill them instead of saving them. The Web needs to close down for awhile. It is a safety valve that is preventing the explosion. Only an idiot in the system would do it, but I have faith in the enemy and their dumb monkey. The Organ Grinders are going into the Cuisinart this time. Buggery and dark skin is going out like The Dark Ages. A New Light, and a New Power rise. The Eye of Soros is blackened.
The Eye of Horus sees All.

Blogger Teri May 04, 2016 9:37 AM  

They don't like thin because they consider him low class. And his supporters are low class of course. They don't want to admit their prejudice, so they dress it up by talking about tone. They would rather have a well bred loser like Mitt. The people want a fighter.

Blogger James Dixon May 04, 2016 9:38 AM  

> No. But they are.

Ah, but you see they only want spaces where whites aren't allowed, not spaces where they're not. The shortsightedness on display is staggering.

Blogger Teri May 04, 2016 9:38 AM  

They won't deal. You can't trust Cruz to keep his word. Cruz will have to go back to being a Senator.

Anonymous kfg May 04, 2016 9:49 AM  

@42: "Are you advocating a return to that?"

No. Nor did that exist most places and certainly didn't exist when I was part of the token white family living in the projects.

Anonymous Joe Blowe May 04, 2016 10:15 AM  

The OASF wrote:America has been putting up with this crap for 50 years now.

Try 100 years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Summer_%281919%29

Anonymous DE-173/Code 19/Vox Nox May 04, 2016 10:22 AM  

Xenophobia may, in some forms, be a vice, however as an inculpative charge charge against opponents of the ruling class, it is hackneyed and tedious-we are far past the time when we should be discussing the far more dangerous and prevalent obverse-the virulent and ubiquitous xenomania of the left.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan May 04, 2016 10:30 AM  

As Jim Kuntsler has noted the established political players are all defending a racket of their own, from the black racists to the medical pirates and stock jobbers of the Obama Bubble.

Trump just has to poke at each racket and the racketeers in order for the other racketeers to pile on, divide and conquer something the idiot Right eschews in favor of some political nonsense so they receive a tip of respect from the Left.

As some wag on some site or another commented that he noticed Hillary is not proposing some huge spending racket, which means the cash is running out which means the vermin will now go cannibalistic.

Will the alt-Right help this along or go with the failed Papa Conservative model?

Blogger Alexander May 04, 2016 10:50 AM  

Tradcons:

Quick, now that we've lost, let us advise the winner that he needs to be more like us!

Nothing new here: the NYT has a long and colorful history of saying that Republican candidates would be great if they were more like Democrats. They've had to change the labels in this particular article, but only because the GOPe hasn't yet explicitly defected in total.

Anonymous Clay May 04, 2016 10:57 AM  

@21

Thanks, puppy lurker. My bad.

Anonymous Jack Amok May 04, 2016 11:00 AM  

Do they sound like people who are confident of victory?

No, they sound like mobsters who just found out the palooka they bet against decided not to take a dive after all.

Don't know yet if the palooka can win, but he at least decided to throw some real punches for a change.

Anonymous Clay May 04, 2016 11:09 AM  

BTW, 20. FALPhil,

You can take a big cucumber, cut concentric grooves in it, fill those grooves with cayenne pepper, and shove it up your ass.

I was only asking a polite question. Didn't have time to peruse the whole thread.

Anonymous Gen. Kong May 04, 2016 11:16 AM  

A better question would be: Why does anyone other than a treasonous, genocidal POS care about what is said or asked by any SJW scribbling for the New Duranty Times? As someone around here noted: They always lie.

Anonymous Athor Pel May 04, 2016 11:28 AM  

" 42. Anonymous Deadlocked May 04, 2016 9:19 AM
...
60 years ago, blacks were marching ang singing because they couldn't use the same public facilities as whites. They couldn't attend the same public schools, use the same public toilets, or even sit in the same part of the bus.
..."


1. Squid ink. What you're saying is pure FUD.
2. Keep shaking the Racism talisman, maybe it'll work next time.
3. Radicalized blacks are so odious they get no pity.
4. We Don't Care.

Blogger kurt9 May 04, 2016 11:31 AM  

Xenophobia and isolationism are to be vastly preferred to the treasonous fantasies of the Republican and Democratic politicians alike. There is nothing confusing about Trump's foreign policy: what is hard to understand about America First for anyone who doesn't have other objectives in mind?

Bingo!

Anonymous VFM #6306 May 04, 2016 11:33 AM  

Clay you are a HARD bud who really knows how to pound a cucumber in the butt.

LOVE IS REAL spicy.

The reason you pay attention to the times is so you can destroy the times. Know the enemy.

Anonymous BGKB May 04, 2016 11:51 AM  

“That was all most of these guys needed to hear,” said an operative in the room. “Maybe he’s trainable.”

She must think if she marries a guy that beats her that he will stop on the wedding day.

The concern that keeps coming up is Trump getting us into war which is so far

Maybe with mexico but it will be a short war, TRUMP wont have troops fight with their hands tied behind their backs. The Cartel members wont last long under waterboarding.

It will be so fabulously gay. And by that I don't mean Steve, Chuck or Milo. I mean pathetic.

I might have to go agitate Sodomites for Sanders to help break up area politics."The Hilldog's coin stole our votes"

What will it be now? Will the CIA do another Lone Gunman. Man, but that's getting old.

TRUMP has started a parade that won't stop even if he leaves it. Fred"cant get no 12yo girls in my van" Reed said "The Insiders’ Club would just wait them out. Once a society realizes that it has no power over its rulers, it lapses into resignation. Republicans do not loot malls or burn cities, and would soon go home."

What he doesn't realize is that white people don't burn liquor stores but raze continents.

"Donald Trump is going to set race relations back 60 years"

Will non Asian minorities still the right they just won this year of being legally allowed to take dumps in the streets of NYC and San Fran?

America has been putting up with this crap for 50 years now. It's just that the media can't cover it up anymore.

Unless you saw coverage of the black moslem serial killer of gays in 3 states caught 2 weeks after the Ferguson Liquor store robber was killed , or the 3 gay jews beheaded on 9-11-2011 that lived right next door to the boston marathon moslems I would say they are still covering it up.

You can take a big cucumber, cut concentric grooves in it, fill those grooves with cayenne pepper, and shove it up your ass

Just like when I talk about Pinochet helicopter rides, most people wouldn't have a clue to come up with details like that.

Blogger bob k. mando May 04, 2016 11:52 AM  

Vox
And to all those conservatives and Republicans crying about how Trump is certain to lose to Clinton, ask yourself this: why doesn't the great left-liberal standard sound a whole lot happier about Trump being the Republican nominee? Do they sound like people who are confident of victory?



to ask the question is to fundamentally misunderstand the reason for stating this lie in the first place.

this doesn't have ANYTHING to do with their honest opinion being that Trump "can't beat" Hillary in November. remember when we were supposed to vote for Bob Dull, John McCrazy and Mitt RomneyCare? they don't today, and never have, been all that concerned with winning the general election.

this is a self serving *lie* meant to salve their pride for being so fucking wrong about everything all along.

"wah, but Trump can't win the general election, wah, so you shouldn't have chosen him, wah!"

fuck off, you little bitches. i'm no Marxist with an infantile faith in the inexorable forces of history, you can't play this game on me.



5. Sherwood family May 04, 2016 5:23 AM
So they project that he will start wars in the name of nationalism and that makes him a fascist/Nazi, etc.



you are correct that it is projection, wrong for the reason for it.

it has nothing to do with their 'honest opinion', everything to do with them bleating bullshit in order to try to scare women and nancy boys away from voting for Trump. it's the foreign policy equivalent of pointing and shrieking, 'racist'. that's why the lugenpresse has been accusing Republicans of it for ... my whole life.

that's why it's true ( as you've noticed ) that the establishment types start wars ALL THE TIME and are the real warmongers and butchers of our sons. you aren't supposed to be commenting on things like that.

IF they gave a shit about warmongering
THEN they wouldn't throw the US military into wars all over the planet. constantly.


17. trk May 04, 2016 7:01 AM
The sun is out. Birds chirping. Democrats in shock and cucks gnashing teeth. What a beautiful day. Oh. And Hugo's as frosting.



hell, you left off the best part. you forgot the wailing of the GOPe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbIR51_J_qY

Anonymous Broken Arrow May 04, 2016 11:54 AM  

If only the Cucks had fought this hard against Obama they wouldn't be in this situation. Was there ever a #NeverObama movement in which it was a moral imperative not to support him?

Blogger James Dixon May 04, 2016 12:11 PM  

> If only the Cucks had fought this hard against Obama they wouldn't be in this situation. Was there ever a #NeverObama movement in which it was a moral imperative not to support him?

No, because the alternatives were Hillary or McCain, and then Romney. In all honesty, I'd say we go the best of the bunch the last two times, as sorry a state as that is.

Anonymous Wyrd May 04, 2016 12:24 PM  

In case anyone cares, Kasich is dropping out:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/05/04/kasich-to-suspend-presidential-campaign.html

Give the man his due; he at least did better than Jeb.

Blogger Stilicho May 04, 2016 12:26 PM  

The rise of the Trumpen Proletariat...

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents May 04, 2016 12:28 PM  

Napoleon 12pdr
The next month is going to be painful. Trump wasn't my first, second, or even third choice, but the wailing, gnashing of teeth, and general defeatism I've seen from some quarters is already getting on my nerves.

Get your mind right, then. Contemplate the peacefulness of the spring morning, then reflect on how many of the usual suspects are being driven up the wall by the mere presence of Trump on their screens. Admire the way SJW’s amygdala are triggered again and again and again by the mere utterance of his name.

Find amusement in this moment. The LOLz are plentiful if you will but look for them, for ye verily the SJW’s, the cuckservatives, and many other usual suspects are in a state of high anxiety merely because of The Donald.

And if that’s not enough, consider what Hillary Rodan Cacklepants will look like once she is on the receiving end of a fully functional TrumpStar. A meltdown is coming for her, and it will be epic.

LOLZ abound, just look around!

Blogger bob k. mando May 04, 2016 12:28 PM  

the rise of the Trumpenkopf SS.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents May 04, 2016 12:29 PM  

Napoleon 12pdr
The next month is going to be painful. Trump wasn't my first, second, or even third choice, but the wailing, gnashing of teeth, and general defeatism I've seen from some quarters is already getting on my nerves.

Get your mind right, then. Contemplate the peacefulness of the spring morning, then reflect on how many of the usual suspects are being driven up the wall by the mere presence of Trump on their screens. Admire the way SJW’s amygdala are triggered again and again and again by the mere utterance of his name.

Find amusement in this moment. The LOLz are plentiful if you will but look for them, for ye verily the SJW’s, the cuckservatives, and many other usual suspects are in a state of high anxiety merely because of The Donald.

And if that’s not enough, consider what Hillary Rodan Cacklepants will look like once she is on the receiving end of a fully functional TrumpStar. A meltdown is coming for her, and it will be epic.

LOLZ abound, just look around!

Blogger Sheila4g May 04, 2016 12:34 PM  

Some wisdom from someone who seems strangely familiar with "SJWs Always Lie" (from anonymous conservative):

"Finally, don’t try to demean the act of attacking leftists as bullying, even when it clearly is. Liberals don’t respond to logic, reason, or decency. There are only two ways to combat them, and stall the ascension of leftism. You can kill them violently en masse, in a bloody civil war, or you can bully and humiliate them publicly until they retreat from the debate. Donald is advancing conservatism and saving the country the only way it can be done peacefully when he bullies liberals. The only other alternative is the respectful and dignified method of George W Bush, which basically handed the nation to the left, and gave us Obama.

Bullying is good when it is done to oppressive assholes who won’t respond to logic, reason, or decency. It cows them, and prevents their despotism from rising to the point that they need to be killed to be free of them. It is an act of love. Leftists need bullying, and Donald has shown he is the man to do it.

The greatest service he has provided however, is giving a demonstration to future candidates on how to win by providing a real life example of why all the pacifistic beliefs of the GOP elites are completely and utterly wrong. Don’t be moderate, don’t be civil, and don’t back down, ever. Always attack, always face violence head on, and don’t compromise. Before this is over, Donald will have violated every tenet of the GOPe’s commonly held beliefs, and he will have thrived while doing so."

Blogger James Dixon May 04, 2016 12:47 PM  

> "Finally, don’t try to demean the act of attacking leftists as bullying,

Standing up to bullies and responding in kind is not bullying, even if they say it is.

Blogger Chris Mallory May 04, 2016 12:48 PM  

@42 "Are you advocating a return to that?"

Yes, why aren't you? Segregation worked to keep white families safe. Is the safety of your kids and grandkids not worth giving up "diversity"?

Blogger SciVo May 04, 2016 12:50 PM  

weka wrote:Cruz is smart. He will do a deal: Trump is a pragmatist and will make sure Cruz has a deal. They will unite.

The left, however, will split gloriously. It will be so fabulously gay. And by that I don't mean Steve, Chuck or Milo. I mean pathetic.


I agree. I'm looking forward to a reprise of the 1968 Democratic National Convention in Chicago.

My thesis is that if Sanders can hang on and split the vote through the rest of May while Trump hammers on crooked Hillary, then maybe he can get 2/3 of the vote in June, which would be enough to (barely) beat haggard Clinton in pledged delegates. And the convention is being held in Philadelphia, whose crime rate is worse than Chicago's.

Furthermore, in a time where the black supremacist hate group #BlackLivesMatter has been responsible (directly and indirectly) for a great deal of racial violence, it might also matter that Philadelphia is even more black than Chicago, at 43.4% of the population. On the flip side, it has a much less Hispanic/Latino -- only 12.3% of the population -- but that wasn't an issue last time, and the mestizo separatist #MakeAmericaMexicoAgain crowd can make up in viciousness what it lacks in numbers.

Finally, as in Europe, the white antifas are just brownshirts with virtue signaling. We've seen how violent Sanders' SWPLs can be at protests. So what happens if their secular messiah wins on votes and gets dissed by the superdelegates? And how does BLM react if the Jew gets the nod?

There isn't enough popcorn for the shitshow that I predict for the last week of July in the City of Brotherly Love. I'm not willing (yet) to go as far as predicting full-blown race riots, but there will be intra-mural violence.

Blogger tz May 04, 2016 12:50 PM  

The problem with terms like xenophobia and homophobia is they do not normally make a distinction between rational fears and irrational ones.
Muslim terrorists and Mexican rapists? Reason to fear, just as if you owned a florist or made wedding cakes, but that doesn't apply to Milo.

And that is Trump. Realist. Send Diamond and Silk and Milo to handle those who accuse bigotry.

Jimmy Carter gave us malaise and stagflation with 16%+ interest rates.

Obama gave us worse, though the media and government numbers obfuscate.

Trump will win in a landslide. Twice.

Blogger SciVo May 04, 2016 1:00 PM  

Cecil Henry wrote:'Xenophobia' just means a people get to control their nation and have THEIR ethnic interests represented.

Xenophobia is a leftist slander against good, clean, healthy oikophilia. And leftist xenophilia is just sugarcoating an unnatural, pathological, virulent oikophobia.

Because SJWs always lie.

Blogger tublecane May 04, 2016 1:01 PM  

@74-The suffix "-phobia" in those words doesn't mean the same thing as the stand-alone "phobia." It denotes hatred or extreme dislike, not fear. (Unless you're Yoda, who said fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, and blah, blah, blah.) No one is saying you're afraid of French people when they call you a "Francophobe," for instance, nor that "Anglophobes" fear Englishmen.

Anonymous kfg May 04, 2016 1:01 PM  

Phobia is defined as an irrational fear. It is the people currently most likely to use those terms who blur the distinction in order to prosecute their agenda.

Blogger tublecane May 04, 2016 1:07 PM  

@77-"Phobia is defined as irrational fear."

Yes, it is. But the suffix "-phobia" doesn't have the same meaning. It can include fear, I suppose. But primarily it denotes dislike or hatred. Look it up.

Like I said, when someone is called a "Francophobe," for instance, you shouldn't assume that means he's afraid of French people. Most likely it means they hate French people.

Blogger Were-Puppy May 04, 2016 1:15 PM  

Do we really think most of the lefty dbags who throw around the term xenophobia have ever cracked open Xenophon? It's a really good read.

Blogger Chris Mallory May 04, 2016 1:16 PM  

@78

So, we should let the language be debased and allow words to be misused. Gender has to do with language and social roles, not biological sex. Phobia means fear, not hatred. Refuse to give into the progressives making up meanings to words.

Anonymous mature craig May 04, 2016 1:17 PM  

@1154 seriously

Anonymous Takin' a Look May 04, 2016 1:37 PM  

Kasich drops out!

Anonymous kfg May 04, 2016 1:37 PM  

@79: "Look it up."

I had already looked it up, but rather than belaboring the point I am willing to substitute "aversion" for "fear."

The fact that the aversion is irrational, which is the salient point, I will stand by.

Anonymous Napoleon 12pdr May 04, 2016 1:42 PM  

As the hand-wringing and navel-gazing gets under way, it occurs to me that Trump won partly by sheer optimism.

For the last several cycles, most of the politicians have been running around telling people how terrible things are. Trump is doing what Reagan did...admit that things are wrong, but put the accent on being able to set them to rights.

Love him or hate him, "Make America Great Again," is a great campaign slogan.

Blogger Alexander May 04, 2016 1:57 PM  

Napoleon - close, but not quite.

For the last several cycles, most of the politicians have been running around telling people how terrible they are.

Trump one because he's the first politician in a damn long time that doesn't hold his constituency in contempt, and is willing to publicly state that even at the expense of Georgetown dinner parties.

Blogger B.J. May 04, 2016 2:00 PM  

Why should Republicans get advice from Democrats on how to win? How do these people have any credibility left? How arrogant can you be after being wrong so many times? Aren't these the same people who said the only path to victory for the Right was Jeb? Didn't they wholeheartedly endorse his "Step over every voter to appeal to mexicans" strategy?

Blogger clk May 04, 2016 2:04 PM  

"And to all those conservatives and Republicans crying about how Trump is certain to lose to Clinton, ask yourself this: why doesn't the great left-liberal standard sound a whole lot happier about Trump being the Republican nominee? Do they sound like people who are confident of victory?"

I think that they don't really know what to think .. conventional wisdom is that Hillary should be able to wipe the floor with Trump. - she has all the blacks, all the Hispanics, the immigrants, all the women, all the democrats (if the preceding missed any).. plus Trump - basically a casino owner (what happens at casinos ...gambling, drinking, drugs, prostitution) and 2 x divorcee with proven cases of infidelity (he makes Bill look the a choir boy), bankruptcy, flip flopping, business shenanigans ... -- by all measures he should have never made it out of the first rounds -- yet here we are...

So wisdom becomes conventional when the same thing happens over and over again so we shouldn't ignore it but with Trump.. who knows what will really happen.. except that we will have a very entertaining presidential season.

Anonymous Fran May 04, 2016 2:04 PM  

@86
Thank you. I was about to write up a rant for @85 but you post nailed it much better.
And as far as insults and tone Trump brings...those pricks earned every one of those insults.

Blogger The Other Robot May 04, 2016 2:13 PM  

Kasich to end his campaign.

Anonymous Ghestaldt May 04, 2016 2:15 PM  

We don't know what Trump's FP views are. He contradicts himself, doesn't display much knowledge of history and lies. It's 4 more years of Dems. Thanks GOP voters!!

Blogger Matamoros May 04, 2016 2:16 PM  

Now if Trump can hold off all those telling him he needs a woman or "minority" on the ticket, and goes with a strong white male he will be in good shape.

Pat Buchanan was picking up a lot of interest when he ran, but then he selected a black woman running mate and that was then end of that.

A woman, black or hispanic will help sink him because his core support is whites.

Blogger The Other Robot May 04, 2016 2:17 PM  

@91: If you are trying to be a parodist, you need to try harder.

Anonymous Napoleon 12pdr May 04, 2016 2:18 PM  

This election will really put Game theory to the test.

Game says that Trump, who has a very carefully cultivated Alpha Male image, should crush Hillary like an empty beer can. And his rise is primarily due to his opponents not realizing that he's fighting with rhetoric, not dialectic.

Conventional wisdom says that Trump is a deeply flawed candidate, and will struggle to eke out a narrow victory, if he can win at all.

The implications for future campaigns are interesting, too. If Trump wins, I think the GOP will see a new generation of candidates with a lot more self-confidence.

Anonymous The OASF May 04, 2016 2:24 PM  

@62 "Unless you saw coverage of the black moslem serial killer of gays in 3 states caught 2 weeks after the Ferguson Liquor store robber was killed , or the 3 gay jews beheaded on 9-11-2011 that lived right next door to the boston marathon moslems I would say they are still covering it up."

Per what I wrote, my point was the difference between "still" and "can't."

Blogger CM May 04, 2016 2:32 PM  

Gender has to do with language and social roles, not biological sex.

At what point did "gender" not connect to biological sex? "Woman" describes a person of human origin with a womb. Biology dictated the word choice. Her, she, and lady are tied to the biological FEMALE. "Gender roles" were dictated by the biological fact that WOMEN get pregnant, have babies, and lactate (without medical intervention).

I'm willing to concede not every women wants to be a mother. I'm willing to concede that some men like to wear dresses and makeup. I'm willing to concede some women can be mechanics and most chefs are men. That dads can be primary caregivers and moms be breadwinners (though far less frequently succeed than we may pretend). But to take this as non-binary gender is just asinine.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents May 04, 2016 2:46 PM  

Someone name of “Kasich” just quit running for President.
Not quite sure who that is, though.

Blogger James Dixon May 04, 2016 2:53 PM  

> It's 4 more years of Dems. Thanks GOP voters!!

Trump has greater support amongst non-Republicans than any nominee since Reagan. If he can't win then no Republican candidate can, and it makes no difference what the GOP voters do.

Blogger BunE22 May 04, 2016 2:55 PM  

@71

TOUGH LOVE IS REAL!

Anonymous Ghestaldt May 04, 2016 3:36 PM  

"Trump has greater support amongst non-Republicans than any nominee since Reagan"

According to who? Gallop says he has the lowest favor ability rating among non republicans of every GOP candidate in the primary.

Blogger bob k. mando May 04, 2016 4:00 PM  

100. Ghestaldt May 04, 2016 3:36 PM
According to who? Gallop says he has the lowest favor ability rating among non republicans of every GOP candidate in the primary.



so, is what yer sayin is ... Donald has a hard ceiling of 30%?

Anonymous TheSmokingMan#3424 May 04, 2016 4:07 PM  

@100 Donald Trump is a buckaroo who kisses the sky!

Blogger Derrick Bonsell May 04, 2016 4:10 PM  

Nate may disagree for now, but I think even he will come around to Trump if he hasn't already.

Blogger Alexander May 04, 2016 4:23 PM  

Once Cruz dropped out Kasich had no HARD buckaroos to have bud-to-bud horseplay with like guys who kiss. Trump refused the scoundrel money and gave them both BAD NEWS BEARS.

Blogger Alexander May 04, 2016 4:26 PM  

Derrick,

Nate's issue has always been that he cares as much for Trump as you care for elections in Zimbabwe. Yankee president of a Yankee occupying government.

There's nothing for Nate to 'come around' to, unless he looks at Trump and thinks, "for that man, I salute my Imperial overlords!"

Don't see that happening.

Blogger James Dixon May 04, 2016 4:27 PM  

> According to who?

Rasmussen, amongst others. For the second time today: http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/trump_41_clinton_39

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd May 04, 2016 5:04 PM  

``Gallop says he has the lowest favor ability rating among non republicans of every GOP candidate in the primary.''

So? When was the last time that republicans elected a president? Trump will get elected, but not by the usual (R) suspects.

Anonymous Gen. Kong May 04, 2016 5:29 PM  

SciVo:
There isn't enough popcorn for the shitshow that I predict for the last week of July in the City of Brotherly Love. I'm not willing (yet) to go as far as predicting full-blown race riots, but there will be intra-mural violence.

Killadelphia herez we comes! Zombie apocalypse!

Blogger Emmanuel May 04, 2016 6:37 PM  

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Anonymous Emmanuel May 04, 2016 6:38 PM  

Quite funny to see the NYT giving "strategy advice" to republicans. Sounds like Goldman selling crappy ABS to its muppet clients.

While I won't vote for Trump in november (due to not being an american citizen), I am greatly admirative of his works and hope he will inspire politiciians everywhere.Trump is some sort a political novelty : a right-wing politician who wants to stand for his own voters rather than cave in to liberal constituencies.

I really hope he will be president inspire politicians in western countries, and remind right-wing candidates that pandering to PC-mantras is NOT what their constituencies want to vote for.

Blogger Krul May 04, 2016 6:46 PM  

Emmanuel wrote:Quite funny to see the NYT giving "strategy advice" to republicans. Sounds like Goldman selling crappy ABS to its muppet clients.

"The Left has always given advice to the Right for good reason. Those who take it, deserve it." - Ayn Rand (from memory)

Blogger FALPhil May 04, 2016 7:29 PM  

@57 Clay

You can take a big cucumber, cut concentric grooves in it, fill those grooves with cayenne pepper, and shove it up your ass.

I was only asking a polite question. Didn't have time to peruse the whole thread.


Damn. Someone who asks moronic questions with an anal fixation.

Blogger JWM in SD May 04, 2016 7:32 PM  

No deal. Cruz will be lucky to not lose the Senate position because he is Not Eligible!

Blogger JWM in SD May 04, 2016 7:35 PM  

No, Obama already did that.

Blogger Lazarus May 04, 2016 7:53 PM  

People tend to get pragmatic eventually:

SANTA MONICA, California — During an exclusive interview with Breitbart News, former Mexican President Vicente Fox apologized Wednesday for the vulgar language he has used regarding GOP frontrunner Donald Trump’s proposal to build a wall along the southern border and invited the likely Republican nominee to Mexico to see the border from the other side.

Earlier this year, Fox said that he would not pay for Trump’s “f*cking wall,” and called Trump ““Ignorant … crazy … egocentric … nasty … [a] false prophet.” Trump then called on Fox to apologize

On Wednesday, he did so — in an exclusive interview with Breitbart News — and added that he wanted Trump to come to Mexico to see the border from the other side.

“I apologize. Forgiveness is one of the greatest qualities that human beings have, is the quality of a compassionate leader. You have to be humble. You have to be compassionate. You have to love thy neighbor,” Fox explained to Breitbart News while sitting in the hotel of the J.W. Marriott in Santa Monica, California on Wednesday afternoon.

Anonymous Spartacus xxxxx May 04, 2016 9:06 PM  

clk wrote:"

.. Trump - basically a casino owner (what happens at casinos ...gambling, drinking, drugs, prostitution) and 2 x divorcee with proven cases of infidelity (he makes Bill look the a choir boy), bankruptcy, flip flopping, business shenanigans ...



Excuse me, are you talking about Trump or are you talking about the USA?

Blogger Christopher May 04, 2016 9:24 PM  

Lol Maddow lost it again tonight! Another great report on how unprecedented Trump is but again with he near waterworks, editorially emoting her fear of the non-establishment Trump.

Blogger Technomad May 05, 2016 1:36 AM  

The problem with the mainstream Republican establishment is that it never got over the twin traumas of being blamed for the Depression and being crucified over Watergate.

Blogger Technomad May 05, 2016 1:43 AM  

As far as Mexico not wanting to pay for the wall goes..."Nice country you have there, Senor Fox. Shame if something happened to it..." But then, I'm of the "Tony Soprano" school of foreign policy.

Anonymous Sagramore May 06, 2016 2:34 PM  

@28 California Proposition 215 in November 1996.

Your can draw a straight line from there. People are tired of Federal horseshit and UN lying. This had the side benefit of having the mask slip from police unions and gangsters like Adelson on something innocuous.

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