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Wednesday, May 11, 2016

The Trumpening marches on


The Democratic race is getting interesting. Hillary is looking worse and worse as the Master Persuader turns his attention to Crooked Hillary, and it's not at all impossible that Crazy Bernie will end up with more actual delegates than the presumptive nominee.

The ironically named Democrats have a superdelegate system to prevent democracy from getting in the way of the establishment's selection, but it's not unlikely that the pledged superdelegates will see losing the delegate contest as a reason to break their promises to Hillary Clinton. She is, after all, Crooked.

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Blogger #7139 May 11, 2016 8:08 AM  

I have paid absolutely no attention to the delegate count for Hillary and Bernie in the Democratic primaries. Crazy Bernie is much closer to Hillary than I thought he was. A showdown between Crazy Bernie and The Donald would be a lot of fun indeed.

Blogger CM May 11, 2016 8:13 AM  

Trump is just under 75% in WV, lol.

Who on earth unites WV rednecks and Staten Island NYers? Only the most divisive presidential nominee ever.

Blogger Gaiseric May 11, 2016 8:16 AM  

#7139 wrote:I have paid absolutely no attention to the delegate count for Hillary and Bernie in the Democratic primaries. Crazy Bernie is much closer to Hillary than I thought he was. A showdown between Crazy Bernie and The Donald would be a lot of fun indeed.
One of Trump's big advantages as a candidate is that he can get disaffected Democrats to vote his way. I think Sanders undercuts that to some degree, especially relative to Hillary.

Blogger Gaiseric May 11, 2016 8:16 AM  

On the other hand, if Trump loses, Bernie is significantly less scary to me that Hillary. Sure, he's a nasty, vindictive socialist and a terrible person... but he seems much less likely to go to war against anyone, at least.

Anonymous Faceless May 11, 2016 8:22 AM  

I think we're just about seeing a ceiling for Mr. Trump.

I predict he can climb no more than 25 points, tops.

Then Cruz can jump back in the race.

Blogger Chris Mallory May 11, 2016 8:24 AM  

In 2008, Clinton took 67% of the vote in WV. She took 66% of the vote in Kentucky. It will be interesting to see what she does next Tuesday in Kentucky.

Blogger Servant of the Chief May 11, 2016 8:24 AM  

Sanders over Hillary any day of the week, I am sorry.

Speaker with a foreigner's perspective, even if by some fluke of fate Sanders beats Hillary and somehow wins the presidency (hypoethetically speaking), I would sooner have him as American president than Hillary. I know that will suck balls for you Americans, but I'll be breathing a sigh of relief.

Hillary on the reigns of power of the greatest military machine on Earth is literally a nightmare scenario for the rest of the world. Sanders or Trump is better for the rest of the world in different ways, Sanders by virtue of not being Hillary and Trump if his isolationist foreign policy turns out to be legit. Especially with 're-examining' Turkey's role in NATO (lets face it, we're not kicking them out without the USA's say so)

Blogger Salt May 11, 2016 8:32 AM  

Trump v Sanders would be interesting, either one shaking up the DC establishment. As for Hillary, supposedly the Kremlin is pondering whether to release the thousands of emails it hacked from Clinton's server. Wonder what the Chinese have?

Blogger Shimshon May 11, 2016 8:40 AM  

Vox, what's your take on Trump vs. Bernie? Care to speculate?

I will be incredibly amused if she's denied the nomination twice. That would just burn (or is it Bern?). I imagine all the #NeverTrump idiots might rethink their stance if the alternative is Bernie.

OpenID bc64a9f8-765e-11e3-8683-000bcdcb2996 May 11, 2016 8:42 AM  

"The ironically named Democrats..."
Hmmm...in a Republic,with a Constitution, I might have used "counterintuitively named".
CaptDMO

Blogger rekrapt May 11, 2016 8:44 AM  

I lurk here every day and rarely comment. But, I wanted to say that I find it ironic that the people who chastised me for not wanted to vote for McCain or Romney because it would "hand the White House over to Obama", are the same people who are spewing this "NeverTrump" nonsense. I held my nose and voted for the Republican nominee in the last two elections. These people are disgusting crybabies.

Blogger Nick S May 11, 2016 8:46 AM  

When Hillary is indicted, poor Joe, another alpha with a propensity for political incorrectness, will have no option other than to answer the call of duty and serve his country. Bernie and Cruz go third party and the political demolition derby, otherwise known as the wreckoning, begins.

Anonymous Virginia Irredenta May 11, 2016 8:54 AM  

With 97% of the precincts reporting, Trump won WV with 77% and Bernie got an absolute majority of 51%. Election results were slow to come out because anyone still in line at the polls at 7:30 could vote.

Exit polls found that one-third of WV Democrats said that they planned to vote for Trump in the fall.

Blogger Harsh May 11, 2016 9:01 AM  

I have it on good authority Trump can't beat Hillary or Bernie.

Anonymous DT May 11, 2016 9:12 AM  

@8 - As for Hillary, supposedly the Kremlin is pondering whether to release the thousands of emails it hacked from Clinton's server. Wonder what the Chinese have?

I wish a Ruskie would!

@14 I have it on good authority Trump can't beat Hillary or Bernie. - Increasingly Nervous Man

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents May 11, 2016 9:15 AM  

rekapt
These people are disgusting crybullies

FIFY

Harsh, would that authority be Top Men?

Blogger Otto Lamp May 11, 2016 9:15 AM  

@7,

Hillary will be the nominee. That's in the bag.

But, it is possible Bernie will end up with more regular delegates than Hillary.

I'd love to see that Dem convention. As they try to explain that Hillary should be the nominee because more super-delegates (party insiders) supported her, despite coming in second when it comes to regular delegates.

Anonymous JP May 11, 2016 9:17 AM  

"I find it ironic that the people who chastised me for not wanted to vote for McCain or Romney because it would 'hand the White House over to Obama', are the same people who are spewing this "NeverTrump" nonsense."

I totally agree. I only voted for a Republican once, just after turning 18. Since then, I've "thrown away my vote" on Constitution and Libertarian Party candidates who were more appealing than the Bushes, Dole, McCain and Romney.

I still find Trump much less than ideal, but I'm voting for him just to stick it to the neocon establishment and "NeverTrump" nonsense. Where have these people been for the last 25 years?

Anonymous FriarBob May 11, 2016 9:18 AM  

Slight correction: they're *hypocritical* disgusting crybabies.

Given that most of them claim to be Christian, they really should think about what hypocrite means. Too bad they probably won't.

Blogger Otto Lamp May 11, 2016 9:19 AM  

@9,

Conversely, I think many Trump supporters would be more comfortable with Bernie than Hillary.

At least Bernie would be a break from the status-quo. Of course, that's why the NeverTrumpers like Hillary--she is the uni-party status-quo.

Anonymous VFM #6306 May 11, 2016 9:21 AM  

Crooked fails to trump Bern in May, but may burn Trump this Fall?

Crooked.

Blogger Harsh May 11, 2016 9:22 AM  

I have it on good authority Trump can't beat Hillary or Bernie.

Blogger Phillip George May 11, 2016 9:24 AM  

I say this not to be ironic but isn't Barry going to Hiroshima to put a real Holocaust on everyone's minds?

If the World has less than 40 days to go, and the Queen's rumoured "enjoy your last Christmas" was right, and Barry's last ever National Press club address was a double entendre non joke insider joke/

anyway, Enjoy time. Barry dropped the mike and everyone laughed. How cool was that. Yes this is speculation. Like fiat currencies in a spiral dive at ground zero.

Anonymous Rolf May 11, 2016 9:25 AM  

All the mainstream media ink spilled on the "division" within the R party, but hardly a word about an avowed socialist can have all the momentum and enthusiasm versus a career insider with a shady past. I cannot imagine a better thing for the nation than to have a deeply divided Dem convention, where Sanders has a majority of the pledged delegates, and there is a huge fight because a lot of the super delegates start vacillating and it looks like it's going to be a really close vote. The long knives come out, and some real introspection and sunlight on the people and process will be seen in unusually places. (not the pols themselves, of course, but among some of the others surrounding them)

@16 - I'd love to watch Hillary explain to her donors how she managed to NOT get the nomination. That would be fun. "Shut up," she explained.

Popcorn by the truckload will be needed.

Blogger CM May 11, 2016 9:26 AM  

I have it on good authority Trump can't beat Hillary or Bernie

If those are the same authorities who have insisted Trump's ceiling has capped or he can't win nomination, I'd reevaluate your use of the word "good".

Anonymous aegis-1080 May 11, 2016 9:28 AM  

Yeah, even shitlibs can't deny that Hillary is going to start a war as soon as she grabs the reigns, what they can't say of course, is that is because she's a man-hating witch (and the other word) that is going to get people killed to prove that she has a Big Clit that needs no man. Also, even the more indecisive people on this corner of the Internet know very well that said power-hungry monster is pretty much going to empower the SJWs to let them render unemployable anybody that opposes them, after getting them SWAT'ed of course. Which is pretty much the start of a 4th gen conflict, but they deep down believe that the Feds are going to smite the unbelievers. They masturbate to the thought of it.

Not surprised that Bill is trying to sabotage her. Again.

Anonymous Big Bill May 11, 2016 9:28 AM  

From Luke Ford:

http://www.lukeford.net/blog/?p=95608

The galut Jews are trying to find/create insider connections, but are having difficulties. No private audience with Trump, no inside advisors in place, no Direct-to-Trump hotline established.

It is difficult for them to express their concerns and make suggestions (on a confidential basis, of course) the way things are going. What do you do when you don't have The Prince's ear when you want it?

It is very nervous-making.

It shouldn't be. I expect that the Methodists, Presbyterians, Southern Baptists and Catholics face the same problems. Heck, I doubt Billy Graham has even spoken to Trump.

Blogger rekrapt May 11, 2016 9:30 AM  

@18

"Slight correction: they're *hypocritical* disgusting crybabies."

I stand corrected.

Blogger Ingemar May 11, 2016 9:35 AM  

Can Trump beat Sanders?

Blogger Ron Winkleheimer May 11, 2016 9:37 AM  

Hillary on the reigns of power of the greatest military machine on Earth is literally a nightmare scenario for the rest of the world

And the U.S. too.

Saw something last night on a Fox News talking heads show that relates to why Trump is doing so well.

Somebody brought up the fact that 65% of the U.S. supported a total ban on immigration into the U.S. by followers of Mohammad.

Someone, I think Jonah Goldberg of National Review, said that was unacceptable and mumbled something about the country being founded on freedom of religion so we could not exclude immigrants on that basis.

Watching that I realized why the GOPe is increasingly irrelevant.

Trump, whatever his shortcomings, is exposing the charade that is the establishment.

He is Toto pulling down the curtain and the establishment is the "wizard" telling us all to pay no attention to what we are seeing with our lying eyes.

Why shouldn't we be able to exclude Muslims from immigrating to the United States? The citizens of a country should be free to set whatever criteria they want governing who may immigrate into it.

If they want to exclude left-handed red-heads, that is their right.

And if they want to exclude people who belong to a particular religious group, that is their right too.

But Jonah Goldberg says that is unacceptable, and the fact that 65% of the population thinks it is acceptable is irrelevant to him because "principles."

No Jonah, you are the irrelevant one.

Blogger Josh May 11, 2016 9:38 AM  

Sanders needs to win 69% of remaining pledged delegates.

He can't do that.

Blogger Josh May 11, 2016 9:39 AM  

Can Trump beat Sanders?

According to the polls right now, no.

Anonymous LastRedoubt May 11, 2016 9:42 AM  

@rekrapt

Yeah. While some of them were honestly holding their noses too, and this year supported Cruz, and wanted a "real" (at least small government) conservative, all too many are establishment guys who were fully in the tank for Mittens and McLame, telling us that we needed to suck it up

Anonymous LastRedoubt May 11, 2016 9:46 AM  

@Ron Winkleheimer

Jonah's "Liberal Fascism" was well researched and worth a read. His follow up? Not so much.

Nothing I've seen from him since makes me believe that he's worth paying attention to, or that book was anything other than a fluke, or his one good idea.

Blogger Marsh May 11, 2016 9:57 AM  

Bernie can't win 69% of the delegates left?

I think he's set to win the states left.

Ha! What a disaster for Hillary!

Blogger Ron Winkleheimer May 11, 2016 10:02 AM  

@LastRedoubt

Yeah, I read "Liberal Fascism" and liked it too. But he's just as globalist as any liberal.

I was just reading an article on Takimag about Kerry's speech at Northeastern. I doubt if you could find a sliver of daylights difference between what Kerry thinks about borders and immigration and Goldberg.

http://takimag.com/article/kerrys_wrong_address_steve_sailer#axzz48M4gpiOQ

Anonymous A Visitor May 11, 2016 10:03 AM  

@5 It floors me that Cruz is holding on to his delegates and said if he can see a path to victory he'll rejoin the race. Trump is going to make it to 1237. Short of the RNC invoking Rule 40, it's over for Cruz. He should just let the Trumpenkrieg roll on.

@7 I asked a friend of mine if they have open primaries in WV and if they do that she should have voted from Sanders. She asked why and I explained the old Operation: Chaos.

@11 That they are. Saw a political cartoon not too long ago showing the typical November election with people holding their nose dropping a ballot in for McCain, Romney, etc. It showed in the next frame the RNC holding their nose for Trump.

@14 Would this be from a slew of cuckservatives?

@17 I "threw away" my first presidential vote in '08 voting for the Constitution Party. So, I feel you bro. Having said that, I'm pushing the button for Trump in November just to stick it to all the cucks.

@19 I HATE THE LEFT. Having said that, yes, if it came down to, I'd much rather prefer crazy Bernie than Hillary.

@20 Well said!

"Someone, I think Jonah Goldberg of National Review, said that was unacceptable and mumbled something about the country being founded on freedom of religion so we could not exclude immigrants on that basis."

@29 He's another cuck. You're right. They're becoming irrelevant. The mispredictions of pretty much everyone about the election this year shows they can't think outside the box. Hence, that's why I don't put stock in a single word they utter. It's like 1979 (a few years before I made my triumphant entrance into the world): the Carter administration was so focused on Communists taking over Iran (a real possibility with the Tudeh party) that they couldn't see the real threat, Islam.

Blogger Josh May 11, 2016 10:04 AM  

I think he's set to win the states left.

Explain how he wins California and New Jersey.

Anonymous mature craig May 11, 2016 10:18 AM  

He really is very smart he thinks of things that I never even thought of.

Blogger Nick S May 11, 2016 10:20 AM  

LastRedoubt wrote:@rekrapt

Yeah. While some of them were honestly holding their noses too, and this year supported Cruz, and wanted a "real" (at least small government) conservative, all too many are establishment guys who were fully in the tank for Mittens and McLame, telling us that we needed to suck it up


There's plenty of irony to go around. Lots of the previously #NeverTheStupidParty or #VotingForAnyoneIsStupid crowd are all aboard the Trump Train screeching Hillary must be defeated.

Blogger YIH May 11, 2016 10:20 AM  

Glenn Cuck called El Rato yesterday and put him on the air.
El Rato claimed ''If I win Nebraska, I'm back in the race''.
Guess Lyin' Ted Canuck can stop beating that dead horse now.

Blogger Marsh May 11, 2016 10:20 AM  

Josh, he can't win NJ, but he sure has a shot at winning California. He could win nine out ten.

Blogger David Power May 11, 2016 10:21 AM  

@31 correctly predicting what Trump can not do, has proved difficult.



He'll never run for President. X
He'll never get over 2%. X
He'll never submit his finances. X
He'll never get over 5%. X
He'll never win a debate. X
He'll never win in the East. X
He'll never get over 10%. X
He'll never win a delegate. X
He'll never win in the South. X
He'll never beat Christie. X
He'll never get over 20%. X
He'll never get over 100 delegates. X
He'll never win Evangelicals. X
He'll never get endorsed. X
He'll never win a Caucus. X
He'll never win in the North. X
He'll never beat Carson. X
He'll never get over 30%. X
He'll never get over 200 delegates. X
He'll never win with Latinos. X
He'll never win a Primary. X
He'll never win in the West. X
He'll never beat Kasich. X
He'll never get over 40%. X
He'll never get over 400 delegates. X
He'll never win with women. X
He'll never win 8 States. X
He'll never beat Jeb. X
He'll never get over 50%. X
He'll never get over 600 delegates. X
He'll never beat Rubio. X
He'll never get over 60%. X
He'll never get over 1000 delegates. X
He'll never beat Cruz. X
He'll never get the Candidacy
He'll never beat Hillary.
He'll never build the wall.
He'll never win a second term.
He'll never Make America Great Again.

Washington 2017: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LfnJOtih08I


Blogger lowercaseb May 11, 2016 10:21 AM  

Josh wrote:I think he's set to win the states left.

Explain how he wins California and New Jersey.


Same thing that was done to Trump in Ohio. Crossover voting.

Blogger Nate May 11, 2016 10:22 AM  

Guys... there is no way Bernie is going to beat Hillary. He can win every race from now on. Every. Single. One. And he will still lose. Because the SuperDelegates on the dem sides simply don't give a damn how anyone votes.

They will look at the polls of hillary vs trump... and they will say to themselves "we have this guy beat." and that's it.

Anonymous Orville May 11, 2016 10:22 AM  

I saw two commentaries from the liberal punditocracy this morning expressing serious hand wringing for Crooked Hillary. She's dived too deep and is crumping.

Blogger Nate May 11, 2016 10:24 AM  

"Josh, he can't win NJ, but he sure has a shot at winning California. He could win nine out ten. "

Again... this suggests you don't understand how things work on the Dem side. He can win 10 of the next 10... and still lose.

Because winning primaries doesn't mean anything on the Dem side. The super delegates go where they want.

Blogger praetorian May 11, 2016 10:24 AM  

Steve Keen said that Sanders has the best economics team. I know that will make a lot of Ilk recoil in emotional horror, but Steve is breddy smart.

He'd try to take down the banks and stop bombing people. And an elderly socialist jew would literally be running america, which would be pretty funny. We could do worse.

Not that it matters, with the Trumpenroller steaming toward the general election...

Anonymous Orville May 11, 2016 10:25 AM  

I suspect Nate is right. They will take a 2-D look at the polls and pull the trigger for Hillary. If the Dem insiders thought she didn't have a chance, they would probably bring Jokin' Joe in rather than the Bern.

Blogger praetorian May 11, 2016 10:26 AM  

The super delegates go where they want.

"Super delegates don't "represent people" I'm not elected by anyone."
--Howard Dean - Superdelegate

"Democrats"

Blogger Marsh May 11, 2016 10:28 AM  

Nate, we know the odds are against Bernie getting the nomination, but think of the mess she will have unifying her party If Bernie ends up winning almost all the states that are left.

CNN was saying last night that if he were to do that, Super delegates might get very nervous. She could have a fight on her hands at her convention!

Blogger Nate May 11, 2016 10:30 AM  

"but think of the mess she will have unifying her party If Bernie ends up winning almost all the states that are left. "

The democrats never have a problem unifying their party. We're talking about psycho collectivists saving the world from The EVILS DONALDS TROMP! HE MUSTES BEEEE SSSTOPPPED!

Blogger CM May 11, 2016 10:31 AM  

@Nate - how informed do you think Bernie voters are?

They are the young college students mostly, right? Do you think they know the popular vote vs. Delegates and would be cognizant of the "stolen" election?

These people have demonstrated they are capable of destructive protest against conservative thinkers, but can/will they turn their OWS into Occupy K Street?

Blogger Dexter May 11, 2016 10:32 AM  

"Jonah's "Liberal Fascism" was well researched and worth a read."

Yes and as rhetoric "liberals are the real fascists" works about as well as "liberals are the real racists" - i.e. not at all.

Anonymous Orville May 11, 2016 10:33 AM  

Creepy Joe is still lurking on the fringes in case the FBI is successful. The Dem king makers won't go with outsider Bernie. If they have to, they'll put in Lurch as the candidate.

Blogger Nate May 11, 2016 10:33 AM  

"Steve Keen said that Sanders has the best economics team."

remember... when steve talks about solutions... everything that comes out of his mouth is stupid.

Its like asking vox about spacial reasoning.

Blogger Marsh May 11, 2016 10:34 AM  

She's going to have trouble unifying her party this year. Did you see the exit polls last night from democrats and Bernie supporters saying they will vote for Trump before they vote for Hillary?

Anonymous Napoleon 12pdr May 11, 2016 10:35 AM  

I've long believed that Hillary was a stalking horse setup. That as soon as she had the field cleared, Obama would slap her with an indictment and clear the field for Biden to walk in.

Unfortunately, Sanders is putting up a good fight. And I'd LOVE to see him come to the convention with more delegates...because Trump will use that to pry Sanders' supporters loose from Illegitimate Candidate Clinton.

This is going to be great.

Blogger Gaiseric May 11, 2016 10:36 AM  

Nate wrote:Again... this suggests you don't understand how things work on the Dem side. He can win 10 of the next 10... and still lose.

Because winning primaries doesn't mean anything on the Dem side. The super delegates go where they want.

That suggests the expectation of no change to the status quo between now the Democrat convention. Party insiders are getting increasingly nervous about Crooked Hillary's performance.

Now, don't get me wrong; I think you're completely right. But I can certainly imagine plausible scenarios in which you're not.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan May 11, 2016 10:36 AM  

If the alt-right matters yet, then who is attacked first and delegitimized, cucks or SJW lefties of the D party apparatus?

Blogger Anchorman May 11, 2016 10:38 AM  

Regarding Dem superdelegates, "If you strike at the Queen, you better kill her."

That is in the back of all their minds, as they contemplate the convention.

Blogger Nate May 11, 2016 10:40 AM  

"That suggests the expectation of no change to the status quo between now the Democrat convention. Party insiders are getting increasingly nervous about Crooked Hillary's performance."

Correct. Because as long as they can look at the polls showing Hillary stomping Trump... they will stick with her like glue. I mean come on man there is a poll out there showing Trump only winning Georgia by 1.

Now.. that poll is likely completely wrong.. but these are Democrats we're talking about.. and its telling them what they want to hear and already believe.

Blogger Marsh May 11, 2016 10:43 AM  

Napoleon, it is going to be great! Last night the talking heads from the left were making a point of saying Obama and other democrat nominees needed Super delegates to put them over the top...trying to "prepare" Bernie supporters for what's coming.


Blogger Ron Winkleheimer May 11, 2016 10:43 AM  

"Jonah's "Liberal Fascism" was well researched and worth a read."

Yes and as rhetoric "liberals are the real fascists" works about as well as "liberals are the real racists" - i.e. not at all.


Which is a good reason to not use it as rhetoric.

It was still a good, well researched book.

In my case, not being a scholar of political history, I learned a few things.

Blogger FALPhil May 11, 2016 10:46 AM  

@7 Sanders or Trump is better for the rest of the world in different ways, Sanders by virtue of not being Hillary and Trump if his isolationist foreign policy turns out to be legit.

That word 'isolationist'. I do not think it means what you think it means.

Non-interventionism is not isolationism.

Anonymous DT May 11, 2016 10:48 AM  

@51 - I don't think that's going to be true this time. I've met one too many Bernie supporters who said they would vote Trump or stay home if it's Trump v. Hillary.

Could be wrong...personal encounters are not statistically relevant...but my gut is telling me the committed Bernie crowd will stay home out of spite if Crooked wins by super delegates.

Honestly, I'm hoping for a massive Democrat fight for the lulz. Imagine:

* Bernie gets more normal delegates.
* Hillary has super delegates.
* Massive convention fight, hopefully with riots lasting until the early morning and 24 hour news coverage.
* Hillary wins, but before her first debate with Trump she is indicted on felony charges for the email server.

It would be like Christmas with a motorcycle, a new game console, and a GI Joe with lasers that actually burn things.

Blogger Anchorman May 11, 2016 10:49 AM  

At this late stage, with Trump as the GOP nominee and all the press saying Hillary would whip Trump...she still can't put Bernie away. Worse, she lost primaries.

The Dem voters are saying, "We know you will win against Trump. We're just not sure we want you to."

Blogger Ron Winkleheimer May 11, 2016 10:54 AM  

I was incorrect, it was Steve Hayes, not Jonah Goldberg that said we can't ban immigration by Muslims because of "freedom of religion" and "principles.

Blogger praetorian May 11, 2016 11:02 AM  

remember... when steve talks about solutions... everything that comes out of his mouth is stupid.

Steady now, Hyperinflation Nate: humility is warranted. What are the chances that he diagnoses the problems observably better than almost anyone and is completely wrong on the solutions?

Yes and as rhetoric "liberals are the real fascists" works about as well as "liberals are the real racists" - i.e. not at all.

And, thanks to Herr Turmpenfuhror, we can now see that that was just a bit of controlled opposition propaganda getting us to think past the sale.

Anonymous Gen. Kong May 11, 2016 11:02 AM  

The ironically named Democrats have a superdelegate system to prevent democracy from getting in the way of the establishment's selection, but it's not unlikely that the pledged superdelegates will see losing the delegate contest as a reason to break their promises to Hillary Clinton. She is, after all, Crooked.

… as are they.

Blogger Joshua_D May 11, 2016 11:05 AM  

65. DT May 11, 2016 10:48 AM

@51 - I don't think that's going to be true this time. I've met one too many Bernie supporters who said they would vote Trump or stay home if it's Trump v. Hillary.


That's cray cray talk. Democrats never switch sides. Only Republicans switch sides. (Ignore recent reports about democrats switching sides to support Trump.) That's why third party runs are ONLY damaging to the Rs.

Blogger Joshua_D May 11, 2016 11:05 AM  

55. Nate May 11, 2016 10:33 AM

remember... when steve talks about solutions... everything that comes out of his mouth is stupid.


Nate, do you think the idea of a modern debt jubilee is stupid? Why or why not?

Blogger Jim May 11, 2016 11:09 AM  

How many "regular" delegates does it take to slay a super-delegate? I think dwarf squads of 50 warriors were enough to bring down a cave-troll, though they usually took terrible casualties.

Anonymous kfg May 11, 2016 11:11 AM  

"Crazy Bernie and The Donald would be a lot of fun indeed."

That's why I've been pointing out what was happening on the Dem side in the Trump threads.

"Hillary on the reigns of power of the greatest military machine on Earth . . ."

. . .will pretty much be allowed to do as she wishes. She's "one of the boys."

Sanders, the career outsider who has never done anything but throw wrenches in the works will be resisted on everything he wants.

"I will be incredibly amused if she's denied the nomination twice."

I'll be tickled pink. Her subsequent meltdown ought to be highly entertaining as well.

Anonymous Sam the Man May 11, 2016 11:33 AM  

I wonder if a Hillary meltdown would be as entertaining as the Cruz one.

Seeing the masters of the universe, in their own mind get taken down is a really enjoyable sport.

Blogger VFM #7634 May 11, 2016 11:48 AM  

@7 Servant of the Chief

Sanders over Hillary any day of the week, I am sorry.

Speaker with a foreigner's perspective, even if by some fluke of fate Sanders beats Hillary and somehow wins the presidency (hypoethetically speaking), I would sooner have him as American president than Hillary. I know that will suck balls for you Americans, but I'll be breathing a sigh of relief.


I think you're a bit naive if you think we Trump supporters look upon Sanders with horror. In fact, his positions are simply a watered-down politically correct version of Trump's. He has even been criticized by the gun grabbers for being pro-gun, and by the open-borders nuts for not favoring open borders.

No, for Trump supporters, it's Hillary who's the least desirable.

Anonymous Welsh May 11, 2016 11:50 AM  

Trump is in favor of higher taxes, big government, and single payer. Have you been in a coma for the last 8 months?

Trump is NOT a conservative

Blogger VFM #7634 May 11, 2016 11:51 AM  

That said, though, the annoying attitude of Sanders and his supporters toward the Trump campaign makes it clear that they regard Trump as the ultimate horror rather than Hillary, thanks to their PC religion.

Blogger bob k. mando May 11, 2016 12:02 PM  

2. CM May 11, 2016 8:13 AM
Who on earth unites WV rednecks and Staten Island NYers? Only the most divisive presidential nominee ever



which only makes sense, given that it was the most divisive President in US history that united West Virginia and New York the first time around.

Anonymous Jack Amok May 11, 2016 12:06 PM  

Hillary on the reigns of power of the greatest military machine on Earth is literally a nightmare scenario for the rest of the world.

No piece of cake for us Americans either. Especially those of us with sons turning 18 in the next four years.

Barack Obama may have been the most spectacularly unprepared person to win a major party nomination, but Hillary Clinton will be the most spectacularly incompetent nominee. It's really quite astonishing how badly she has bungled every major public task she's ever had.

Blogger kudzu bob May 11, 2016 12:08 PM  

@77

Trump is NOT a conservative

Thank God for that. Conservatism stands utterly discredited.

Blogger VFM #7191 May 11, 2016 12:16 PM  

Welsh wrote:Trump is NOT a conservative

We know. That's why we like him. Conservatives are losers who only know how to conserve the liberal victories of 15 years ago.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd May 11, 2016 12:17 PM  

``Trump is NOT a conservative''

And thank God that's true!

Over the last century, conservatives have enabled the liberals to very nearly destroy this country. Since conservatives are a big part of our problem, it's high time we stopped looking to them for our solutions.

Blogger Cinco May 11, 2016 12:17 PM  

Trump is in favor of higher taxes, big government, and single payer. Have you been in a coma for the last 8 months?

All things that we won't need with 30 million fewer people in our country. Vote for anyone else and you WILL get them, you MAY still get them with Trump. We are not delusional...

Anonymous Jack Amok May 11, 2016 12:18 PM  

how informed do you think Bernie voters are?

They are the young college students mostly, right? Do you think they know the popular vote vs. Delegates and would be cognizant of the "stolen" election?


In some ways, Bernie supporters are ignorant, immature brats. But in some other - increasingly important - ways, I think they are far better informed than Hillary supporters.

They know things are broken. They know the status quo ain't working. They know the banksters and the crony corporatists are screwing them big time. If Sanders convinces them the nomination was stolen by party insiders, they'll throw the Democrat party in with the banksters and corpocrats.

We're in a race to see which party blows up first.

Blogger Cicatrizatic May 11, 2016 12:21 PM  

"I was incorrect, it was Steve Hayes, not Jonah Goldberg that said we can't ban immigration by Muslims because of "freedom of religion" and "principles."

On the day Trump issued his proposal for a temporary ban on Muslim immigration, Steve Hayes tweeted that anyone who agreed with such was a "bigot". It has now been revealed by exit polls that approximately 70% of Republican voters are "bigots".

Anonymous BGKB May 11, 2016 12:31 PM  

Trump would have a far easier time against HilLIARy than Bern in Hell. Maybe he should go easy on her for a bit.

Sure, he's a nasty, vindictive socialist and a terrible person... but he seems much less likely to go to war against anyone, at least

War on the white working man. Bern got kicked out of a hippy commune for shirking his fair share of work.

Hillary on the reigns of power of the greatest military machine on Earth is literally a nightmare scenario for the rest of the world

Kratman said he wouldn't be sect of the Army because it would take over 8 years to fix it. Other than nukes the only thing you have to worry about is men in high heels to avoid boots on the groud ,the Portly Paraplegic Paratroopetts, and the West Point Black Power Vags

" West Point officers are investigating after a picture of 16 female cadets wearing uniform while raising their fists in an apparent 'Black Lives Matter' salute began circulating online"
http://nicholasstixuncensored.blogspot.com/2016/05/the-derb-on-black-supremacism-at-west.html

The galut Jews are trying to find/create insider connections, but are having difficulties. No private audience with Trump, no inside advisors

They could always try approaching Trumps jewish grandchildren in a white Phil Sandifer Candy Van.

I have it on good authority Trump can't beat Hillary or Bernie.

I heard he could shoot Hillary dead on the street and not lose a single voter.

Explain how he wins California and New Jersey.

By fighting voter fraud.

Creepy Joe is still lurking on the fringes in case the FBI is successful.

There is also Halfwetback Bush AKA Georgy Prescott Bush. I wouldn't put it past them to field JEB.

Anonymous rubberducky May 11, 2016 12:34 PM  

I don't know why you guys are convinced that those superdelegates are going to stay committed to Hillary no matter what, because they didn't in 2008. We had a similar thing going on. Hillary wrapped up all the supers in advance, but as Obama gained steam they all freaked out and flipped.

All she had then, and all she has now, is the aura of inevitability. Nobody's excited to walk a mile for Hillary, she's a stiff and also a harridan. If Bernie can pop that balloon, like Obama did before, she'll get schlonged once again.

And then, by rights, imprisoned.

Blogger Gaiseric May 11, 2016 12:38 PM  

@88: Exactly my point. And that would be too bad, because Trump has a much easier time cratering Hillary than Bernie... although I think socialist still has enough of a stigma that if nothing else that would motivate Americans to vote against him.

But yeah; those super-delegates aren't a done deal. They're... a probably done deal. But things can change easily and quickly.

Blogger SciVo May 11, 2016 12:40 PM  

Ingemar wrote:Can Trump beat Sanders?

Yes, easily. He's a better candidate than Hillary, but that isn't saying much; a potted fern would be better. If Trump turned the full force of his fire from haggard, crooked Hillary Clinton to our communist friend, Bernie would wither like a houseplant in my care.

Josh wrote:Sanders needs to win 69% of remaining pledged delegates.

He can't do that.


He currently has 1432 vs. 1716 pledged delegates, so by my calculation he only needs 63.4% of the remaining (675 of 1065). I stand by my prediction that he can and will get it, starting next Tuesday; he almost got there yesterday, with 62% (18 of 29).

Josh wrote:I think he's set to win the states left.

Explain how he wins California and New Jersey.


Four more weeks of the presumptive Republican nominee using his remarkable powers of persuasion to turn Hillary's name into dung.

Anonymous kfg May 11, 2016 12:51 PM  

I heard he could shoot Hillary dead on the street and not lose a single voter.

If he did that he might actually gain quite a few.

Blogger praetorian May 11, 2016 12:55 PM  

Trump is NOT a conservative

Really?

Blogger dienw May 11, 2016 1:00 PM  

Nate wrote:
Its like asking vox about spacial reasoning.


Nate, no one can hear you reason in space.

Blogger Ingot9455 May 11, 2016 1:01 PM  

At this point, it really looks like the FBI is holding their report until after the convention, so as to slap Hillary with it once she's confirmed.

Blogger SciVo May 11, 2016 1:04 PM  

Nate wrote:"Josh, he can't win NJ, but he sure has a shot at winning California. He could win nine out ten. "

Again... this suggests you don't understand how things work on the Dem side. He can win 10 of the next 10... and still lose.

Because winning primaries doesn't mean anything on the Dem side. The super delegates go where they want.


Yes, that's the point. I'm looking forward to Philadelphia and the Dem establishment trying to explain why it's a good thing that the party elders are overriding the will of their base. Just picturing it puts a song in my heart and a lift in my step.

You know, it's their own damn fault that Bernie's young supporters are so ignorant, unreasoning, intolerant of dissent and prone to violence. I want to see the Dems hoisted on that petard of their own making.

I'm not yet ready to predict a full-on riot, but I can picture at least a little intramural violence, and definitely some bad optics.

Blogger Ingot9455 May 11, 2016 1:09 PM  

Yeah, if Soros flips to Bernie (on the basis of wanting value for money) imagine the riots he could buy.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents May 11, 2016 1:30 PM  

Killadelphia is where some precincts voted over 100% for Obama in 2008 and again in 2012. It’s that kinda town.

Now, let’s imagine the white, suburban Berners encountering #OnlyBlackLivesMatter. Not in the convention, but outside, in the streets of Killadelphia, with the cops sorta kinda present.

Popcorn. I need MOAR popcorn.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents May 11, 2016 1:33 PM  

Killadelphia is where some precincts voted over 100% for Obama in 2008 and again in 2012. It’s that kinda town.

Now, let’s imagine the white, suburban Berners encountering #OnlyBlackLivesMatter. Not in the convention, but outside, in the streets of Killadelphia, with the cops sorta kinda present.

Popcorn. I need MOAR popcorn.

Anonymous mature craig May 11, 2016 1:42 PM  

There is honor in being like Reagan in my view but I don't see the label conservative as having all that much honor at all. I don't think it wins voters either. Of he is a conservative it's better if he morphs into one after he gets elected

Blogger SciVo May 11, 2016 1:43 PM  

Cicatrizatic wrote:"I was incorrect, it was Steve Hayes, not Jonah Goldberg that said we can't ban immigration by Muslims because of "freedom of religion" and "principles."

On the day Trump issued his proposal for a temporary ban on Muslim immigration, Steve Hayes tweeted that anyone who agreed with such was a "bigot". It has now been revealed by exit polls that approximately 70% of Republican voters are "bigots".


My hypothesis is that full-blown TDS is typically caused by some kind of split identity or divided loyalty, so that American nationalism causes cognitive dissonance. While I have been unable to find Steve's ethnicity or religion, I have found nothing at all about his wife.

A good hypothesis should have predictive power, and the way that Steve got on the terror no-fly list was that he and his wife took a one-way trip to Istanbul and flew back out of Athens. So I predict that if he's an Unhyphenated-American, then his wife isn't.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents May 11, 2016 1:47 PM  

My hypothesis is that full-blown TDS is typically caused by some kind of split identity or divided loyalty, so that American nationalism causes cognitive dissonance.

Good work. This is testable. Something similar likely can be hypothesized on reactions to cuckservative - if it burns, there’s a reason.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents May 11, 2016 1:48 PM  

My hypothesis is that full-blown TDS is typically caused by some kind of split identity or divided loyalty, so that American nationalism causes cognitive dissonance.

Good work. This is testable. Something similar likely can be hypothesized on reactions to cuckservative - if it burns, there’s a reason.

Anonymous #8601 Jean Valjean May 11, 2016 1:50 PM  

@77 Welsh - Trump is in favor of higher taxes

Donald Trump's own words:

"Why does the media, with a strong push from Crooked Hillary, keep pushing the false narrative that I want to raise taxes. Exactly opposite!"

Anonymous DE-173/Code 19/Vox Nox May 11, 2016 2:04 PM  

"I've long believed that Hillary was a stalking horse setup. That as soon as she had the field cleared, Obama would slap her with an indictment and clear the field for Biden to walk in."

Sanders is a socialist. Obama has no objection to him.

OpenID aew51183 May 11, 2016 2:15 PM  

I definitely do NOT want to see Bernie on the Ballot.

He has become freaking Jesus Christ himself to the rabid Campus SJW crowd, and you'll have massive millennial turnout for him like they did for Obama over "free college".

Add to that the fact that HRC's supporters will vote for anything with a D in front of it and we're looking at a very dark outlook for the Trump camp.


Trump is doing himself a MASSIVE disservice by going full bore on Hillary right now. If he sinks her and gets Bernie on the ticket he's in for a bruising in November

Blogger SciVo May 11, 2016 2:16 PM  

A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents wrote:My hypothesis is that full-blown TDS is typically caused by some kind of split identity or divided loyalty, so that American nationalism causes cognitive dissonance.

Good work. This is testable. Something similar likely can be hypothesized on reactions to cuckservative - if it burns, there’s a reason.


Thank you. It took a lot of work to distill a vague feeling down to a precise statement, and then I was disappointed to realize that it was something that would've just been common sense to my forebears. But at least I managed to cut through the poz in my education.

As for cuckservative, that one's trickier because it's an explicitly sexual metaphor with racial connotations. Someone like Stacy McCain might flinch from the term due to decades of fighting professionally-damaging allegations that got him listed by the SPLC.

So I'll think about it, but it isn't the same. Instead of a simple concept -- the American gov't should put Already-Americans first -- the cuck rhetoric is designed to be even more painful than being called racist, so that SJWs can't control behavior so easily.

Blogger Student in Blue May 11, 2016 2:22 PM  

If there's any evidence that Hillary will become the DNC nominee no matter what, it's this.

What, you think any organization with "upper echelons populated by women" would ever have a weak Gamma take the place of Team Woman?

Unless he had somehow won 70%+ of all delegates, they would find a way to not give it to Bernie.

OpenID aew51183 May 11, 2016 2:26 PM  

@104

That was in fall 2015 when everyone was saying Trump has a 15% ceiling.
I suspect they're re-considering now that they know what they're facing.

Blogger Were-Puppy May 11, 2016 2:29 PM  

@47 Nate

Because winning primaries doesn't mean anything on the Dem side. The super delegates go where they want.
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Also, I think all the dem primaries are proportional?

Blogger Thucydides May 11, 2016 2:39 PM  

Phase II of OP CHAOS should be to identify the purchasers of the Superdelegates.

Then have Donald Trump offer to buy them out....

Blogger Were-Puppy May 11, 2016 2:44 PM  

@94 Ingot9455

At this point, it really looks like the FBI is holding their report until after the convention, so as to slap Hillary with it once she's confirmed.
---

From this it appears the noose is drawing closer

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/05/11/former-doj-official-email-case-against-hillary-clinton-stinks-to-high-heaven/

Blogger Steve Moss May 11, 2016 3:12 PM  

Walsh @ 77 said, "Trump is in favor of higher taxes, big government, and single payer. Have you been in a coma for the last 8 months?

Trump is NOT a conservative"


Depends on what your definition of conservative might be. He's certainly professes to be pro-life and pro-Second Amendment, and those are conservative stances. He wants to get the budge under control, and that's a conservative stance.

He certainly isn't a globalist, which is what some neo-cons think conservatism is all about.

On the issue of bigger government, he's advocated for abolishing the Department of Education and the EPA, which is more a small government conservative position.

You do have something of a point about single payor, but I think it's misconstrued. I read that he wants to make private health insurance more affordable (letting policies be sold across state lines and negotiating prices with pharmaceutical companies), both of which are (or should be) conservative positions. He does advocate expanding government coverage to those who can't qualify for private health insurance due to pre-existing conditions which is a big government approach but very humane.

I think it's interesting that the supposed compassionate conservative, George Bush, opposes Trump. My take away is that globalism trumps both compassion and supposed conservatism in some circles.

Regardless, I know which side of the line I prefer to be on.

Anonymous BGKB May 11, 2016 3:14 PM  

imagine the white, suburban Berners encountering #OnlyBlackLivesMatter. Not in the convention, but outside, in the streets of Killadelphia

They could be white wearing a black lives matter shirt only to discover how illiterate the average black is. Those pics where the best of last summer.

Anonymous Sam the man May 11, 2016 3:24 PM  

aew51183

I agree that I do not want Bernie on the ticket, but think the college age kid thing is less of an issue. For every SJW kid in college there is 60% of a serious kid in college who cannot stand the entire new speak attitude of the colleges or the useless degree types.

Of course I do not really know that demographic, but I also read for every SJW who loves Bernie and free college, there is another SJW with a uterus or what passes for one who want to see Hillary become the first Uterus of the United States (UOTUS). Women make up about 60 % of the college students and as they are overrepresented in stupid SJW majors, a higher than 50 % segment of SJWs.

In any case you are dealing with a ~6 cohort, which represent around 39 percent of that cohort from 18 to 23. About 68 % of kids leaving school go to some post high school education, but only 57 percent of the 68 % go to a 4 year institution, the remainder gong to 2 year programs (associates, community college, etc). True some from these local programs go on to college/university, but of the 40 % that start in a 4 year program, only 40 % have their degree in 4 years and the rate peaks at 58% of 39% or 22.5 % after 6 years. Older students do go back but once they are paying themselves the dynamics change.

I think that the college students, having free time are very much overrepresented in the campaigns, especially between May and August when the little druggies are out of school.

There is a vast segment of the 6 year cohort that not in school, between 40 % at 18 to around 85 % by year 24.

Unspoken is the fact that Blacks will not vote for a Jew in large numbers, that was the key to Hillarie's win in the south states. If you break down the demographic voting pattern, Blacks went overwhelmingly for Clinton, whites for Bernie, exclusive of the unmarried/divorced older women demographic.

It really comes down to which side has the energy and enthusiasm. After 8 years of relatively poor performance, it looks like most of the energy is on the republican side.

Blogger Anchorman May 11, 2016 3:29 PM  

Regarding the VP search, Carson stepped away from the committee, if only temporarily.

From The Hill:

Carson then ruled himself out of contention for the slot, arguing that he would overshadow Trump’s campaign.

“I’m not interested in doing that for a number of reasons,” he said last week. "I don’t want to be a distraction. I’m sure you remember how crazy the media was about me. It’s too important a time in our life.”


Carson seems to get what is going to hit the campaign. I think this is a good sign that Trump isn't underestimating the media's delayed assault.

OpenID aew51183 May 11, 2016 3:43 PM  

@111

A lot of the NeverHillary crowd causing suppressed democrat enthusiasm would vote for Bernie in a heartbeat. The opposite is not true.

If Bernie's on the ticket you will get 20% more Democrat turnout, and with the MSM's bias and the entrenchment typical of leftists, it will be very ugly for the Don.

Anonymous BGKB May 11, 2016 4:03 PM  

Too funny photo compilation of NEVERTRUMP https://pjmedia.com/zombie/2016/05/09/inside-the-anti-trump-circus/

Blogger Gaiseric May 11, 2016 4:07 PM  

If Bernie's on the ticket you will get 20% more Democrat turnout, and with the MSM's bias and the entrenchment typical of leftists, it will be very ugly for the Don.

74% of all statistics cited on the internet are made up on the spot.

I mean, yeah—I see your point; I even made a variant of it myself up-thread. But I think you're over-estimating by a lot. Plus, I think you're completely discounting the notion that there is still a massive block of independent or psuedo-independent voters in America who would rouse themselves to keep America from falling into the hands of a self-described socialist.

Blogger Gaiseric May 11, 2016 4:28 PM  

If Bernie's on the ticket you will get 20% more Democrat turnout, and with the MSM's bias and the entrenchment typical of leftists, it will be very ugly for the Don.

74% of all statistics cited on the internet are made up on the spot.

I mean, yeah—I see your point; I even made a variant of it myself up-thread. But I think you're over-estimating by a lot. Plus, I think you're completely discounting the notion that there is still a massive block of independent or psuedo-independent voters in America who would rouse themselves to keep America from falling into the hands of a self-described socialist.

Anonymous JP May 11, 2016 4:43 PM  

"He has become freaking Jesus Christ himself to the rabid Campus SJW crowd, and you'll have massive millennial turnout for him like they did for Obama over 'free college'."

I agree. And 4-year brick-and-mortar universities should be on their way out with a few exceptions. But if Bernie gets his way, they'll thrive and the ultimate costs to taxpayers will continue to go up.

On top of that, grades will be almost meaningless. Imagine what happens to the (already compromised) grading curve when a bunch of disinterested and not-so-intelligent types flood in because it's "free."

Blogger VFM #7634 May 11, 2016 4:46 PM  

@102 aew51183

I hear ya... but the NAMs won't support Bernie no matter what Trump does to Hillary. After June 7, it'll be all over for him.

Blogger John Wright May 11, 2016 5:13 PM  

"Trump is in favor of higher taxes, big government, and single payer."

An illusion produced by the news. I saw the interview which was run under the headline saying Trump was for single payer universal health care. The problem is, he never says that. He says he want a free market solution with some government funding of the poor making hospital stays (i.e. basically the system we had before Obamacare).

But the interviewer has some questions and comments edited into the middle of Trump's sentences, making it look as if Trump is agreeing, or, at least, not objecting, to the remarks by the interviewer promoting universal health care. But that was done later, in editing, if I miss not my guess.

You are the victim of wall to wall news illusions. Listen to what the man says, not to what the news says about him.

The news media are the enemy. The Dems are creatures of the news media, not the other way around.

Anonymous mature craig May 11, 2016 8:52 PM  

I have to be honest Bernie Sanders is really pissing me off. He keeps suggesting policies that are going to be destructive to many people.

Anonymous mature craig May 11, 2016 8:58 PM  

The Jewish conservative writers should put the smackdown on Sanders if they are for real. It looks better if they do it

Anonymous krymneth May 11, 2016 9:11 PM  

People nearly universally don't understand the purpose of voting. It's not to pick the winners, it's to pick the losers. It's the losers that need convincing, not the winners.

The Democrats have looked on with horror at the rowdy and raucous Republican primaries, but all the voting has done its job. All 16 losers are now convinced that they lost, fair and square. The Republicans have had their fight.

The Democrats, mistaking their superficially placid process for peace, are (as usual) kicking the can down the road by not having their fight properly. Whether Bernie gets to 50/50 isn't the question... sure, it matters for the optics, but with 4,051 voted delegates and 712 superdelegates, what matters 1,670. That's where it becomes up to the superdelegates, with every voted delegate being one less superdelegate to convinec. Thats means 237/902 (26%). Quite feasible.

The superdelegate system function to select the winner, but it is broken for selecting losers. The voting is not convincing Bernie that he's lost, because he hasn't! He's only 26% and one preference cascade away from victory. Why stop now? Consider the prize!

Blogger The Other Robot May 11, 2016 9:21 PM  

Johnny Depp predicts Trump will be America's last president.

Does he know something the rest of us should?

Blogger Arthur Isaac May 11, 2016 10:09 PM  

@ 126

"Thus saith the LORD; Behold, I will raise up against Babylon, and against them that dwell in the midst of them that rise up against me, a destroying wind; And will send unto Babylon fanners, that shall fan her, and shall empty her land: for in the day of trouble they shall be against her round about. Against him that bendeth let the archer bend his bow, and against him that lifteth himself up in his brigandine: and spare ye not her young men; destroy ye utterly all her host. Thus the slain shall fall in the land of the Chaldeans, and they that are thrust through in her streets." Jeremiah 51:1-4

Sound like anything we've been seeing lately?

Anonymous Jack Amok May 11, 2016 11:17 PM  

[in 2008] Hillary wrapped up all the supers in advance, but as Obama gained steam they all freaked out and flipped.

That's because as soon as Barack "Black" Obama looked like a viable candidate, the Dem establishment realized they had to nominate him, or they would lose nearly everywhere - the House, Senate, state legislatures...

Black voters, who vote 90+% for Dems, are greater than the margin of victory for most Dem candidates. If they stayed home because they thought the Dem party insiders screwed one of their own, the GOP would've have crushed the Dems up, down and across the ticket.

Blogger James Dixon May 12, 2016 12:33 AM  

> He keeps suggesting policies that are going to be destructive to many people.

Just remember that they're the same policies Hillary supports. She just won't admit it.

Blogger SciVo May 12, 2016 1:22 AM  

@101 APIMTTC:

Today, Breitbart published an article on Trump Derangement Syndrome, so that would be a good test. I will research the author and the sufferers that he names.

David Horowitz (author): This is an interesting test of my hypothesis, right off the bat, because he's an agnostic NY Jew who was raised communist and has lived abroad (London). But when he renounced socialism, he went to the other extreme (as converts often are the most passionate).

He seems to still treat the Middle East as a special case; but he's otherwise non-interventionist, and his critiques of leftism are often anti-anti-American. So he appears to have avoided TDS by reorienting his identity around pro-Americanism decades ago.

Bret Stephens (subject): a secular Jew and NY anchor baby who grew up in Mexico City and went to graduate school in London. Oy vey, ay caramba and my goodness, talk about your split identities!

Bill Kristol (subject): A religious NY Jew, he is the definitive neo-con. I can't find if he's actually a dual citizen or not, but his foreign policy implies a loyalty divided with Israel.

George Will: An atheist with a BA in Religion, an American who went to Oxford, and a public figure who is extremely cagey about his family. If his wife and his ex are Unhyphenated-Americans (which I doubt), then I will have to add another category for the merely uncommitted.

Blogger SciVo May 12, 2016 1:39 AM  

The Other Robot wrote:Johnny Depp predicts Trump will be America's last president.

Does he know something the rest of us should?


No. You're talking about the straight man's first choice for hypothetical cellmate (ref. King of Queens). His superpower is unthreateningness, not insight.

Blogger Shimshon May 12, 2016 6:07 AM  

@130 Kristol a religious Jew? Seriously?!

Blogger SciVo May 12, 2016 1:42 PM  

@132

Look, I'm limited by my research tools. His Wankipedia bio says that his religion is Judaism, and I don't claim to be able to see in his heart and tell otherwise.

Anonymous Sagramore May 12, 2016 4:12 PM  

@107 Two years ago there was a billboard visible on FDR Drive for a storage company reminding people to take their Hillary For President bumpf out for 2016. Often wonder if Trump saw it too (probably) and if the presumption gave him a bit more ambition to run.

Anonymous Sagramore May 12, 2016 4:48 PM  

@120 My father in payroll was telling me in the 80's that an Indian masters degree was really a high school diploma due to credential inflation.

@122 The largest single payer entity in the world is the US military. Of course the VA is more like the NHS than Canadian single-payer, which is mostly "St. God's University of X" hospitals and private contractor doctors. Like anything else it's better and worse than the media portrays it.

Blogger Akulkis May 13, 2016 10:20 PM  

@24

'I'd love to watch Hillary explain to her donors how she managed to NOT get the nomination. That would be fun. "Shut up," she explained.'


Even funnier will be when Hillary takes all her Clinton Foundation Money and uses it to destroy the lives of as many of the super-delegates who betrayed her as possible.

And then the Democrats debating (which will eventually become public) about what to do to stop her. My guess is, the'll put out a hit on her.


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