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Saturday, May 14, 2016

Wait, the rules apply to US?

Even people who claim to seek equality don't believe in it:
Last week, Harvard announced that they were cracking down on “privilege” within their student community by banning members of single-gender organizations from holding school leadership positions.

But when Harvard announced its new policy, it stressed that the sanctions applied to both male and female single-gender organizations equally, since both male and female single-gender organizations thrived on their “privilege.”

Harvard’s resident feminists claim that all-female organizations, while just as gender-biased, are beneficial to the school’s community, whereas all-male organizations are merely breeding grounds for the present and future perpetrators of sexual crime.

On Monday, they demonstrated, accusing Harvard of, among other things, perpetuating the marginalization of female voices. “My women’s organization has been more than a social organization,” one student told the Boston Globe. “It has been a mental health respite, a place to discuss sexual assaults . . . where I became a feminist, and where I refound my voice.”

The students claimed that female-only clubs were more important than male-only clubs because women experience systematic oppression, and they repeated claims that such clubs were necessary because women “earn less” than male counterparts and because women are “targeted and shamed” for their sexuality.
Stop falling for appeals to equality. You might as reasonably be persuaded by appeals to unicorns, lumberjacks, or the Labor Theory of Value. Even those who make appeals to equality observably don't believe in it.

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77 Comments:

Anonymous Steveo May 14, 2016 8:07 AM  

Kids used to learn fair play in the yard with a football... now they can't even learn it at Harvard. Progressive, eh?

Blogger Phillip George May 14, 2016 8:16 AM  

I discovered the word "pathological altruism" at this site. Give the opium dens their opium, turned out how well for the Chinese? Give them "their rights". Their hard earned entitlements. Their compensation. Their victim status till the end. Then seal them in.

Blogger CM May 14, 2016 8:29 AM  

That woman gives an excellent case for why they should be denied leadership positions.

Blogger Phillip George May 14, 2016 8:39 AM  

No, there's a special section where they can lead all they like. They can be kings, queens, Emperors, even garden gnomes. They can dress up or down or never get out of bed. Their rights are guaranteed and everyone nods and smiles at them. And backs away.

Blogger Nick S May 14, 2016 8:45 AM  

Lumberjacks?

Blogger tz May 14, 2016 8:58 AM  

@5 or maybe the Monty Python reference.

Blogger Dexter May 14, 2016 9:06 AM  

Is any group on Earth more systematically oppressed than female Harvard students? NO!

Anonymous A Visitor May 14, 2016 9:17 AM  

@3 That reminds me of a friend, who is a woman. She doesn't like having a female boss because it's "unnatural." Logic and reason prevail in small darkened corners of our post feminist world...

I wonder if someone at Harvard we'll take the opportunity to black knight this whole situation.

Anonymous Watchu talkin bout Willis May 14, 2016 9:18 AM  

Where's the Khmer Rouge when you need them?

Blogger Lovekraft May 14, 2016 9:18 AM  

First world problems.

Blogger Salt May 14, 2016 9:20 AM  

If an applicant has Harvard on their resume, think twice about hiring them.

Blogger Lovekraft May 14, 2016 9:22 AM  

Not that any self-respecting male would want to be caught dead in a room full of these lesbians, the principle of universality should prevail.

The alternative is of course to segregate everything.

Blogger Zaklog the Great May 14, 2016 9:34 AM  

"It has been a mental health respite . . . where I became a feminist"

No. These two statements are directly in contradiction to one another. Either it supported your mental health or it made you a feminist. Both is a contradiction in terms.

Blogger Mint May 14, 2016 9:47 AM  

Had they live in a "patriarchal world", where their fathers mold their values and backbones, they would not make a ridiculous claim that a rule that treat male and female equally is a rule to make women feel "targeted and shamed" for their sexuality. Being feminine is not shameful, you fool. Being in university, Harvard no less, but cannot use your cerebral cortex properly is.

Anonymous BGKB May 14, 2016 9:47 AM  

Is any group on Earth more systematically oppressed than female Harvard students? NO!

I would say Asians with perfect SAT scores that couldn't get in to Harvard while a black girl with a 2.5GPA and a 22 MCAT got a free ride to Harvard med.

It took 60years for whitey to go from Kitty Hawk to the moon, but just 20years after affirmative action for Harvard to teach remedial English.

Blogger Cecil Henry May 14, 2016 9:52 AM  

Equality is really a cover for envy.

It is a way for the inferior to steal from the superior without appearing to do so, and therefore without having to admit or account for their inferiority.

The superior NEVER demands equality with the inferior, it is always the other way around.

Hence the liberals and SJW's never see equality as anything but a means to increase their status and get things by theft they could not otherwise obtain.

And thus the shock when 'equality' isn't used to attacked the envied, but instead actually starts doing to THEM the only thing it ever does: destroy, coerce, and make ugly.

Blogger Krul May 14, 2016 10:00 AM  

They say that an ivy league education used to elicit admiration and respect, instead of pity and contempt. I take that with a grain of salt, personally.

Blogger praetorian May 14, 2016 10:05 AM  

Huh.

No comments section.

Weird.

Anonymous VFM #6306 May 14, 2016 10:09 AM  

What is pathetic is that the male orgs don't even take time to protest the protesters: "Shut up and be equal" is such an easy sign.

Harvard is fallen.

Anonymous Philipp May 14, 2016 10:12 AM  

So feminists scream that they want equality.

Then, after they got it, they don't want it.

Women.

Blogger praetorian May 14, 2016 10:13 AM  

If an applicant has Harvard on their resume, think twice about hiring them.

Around Crimson... Keep your limbs in!

Blogger Mr.MantraMan May 14, 2016 10:17 AM  

The gals should double down. If they want to destroy their legitimacy then this former conservative will help them as I can.

Anonymous Ness1 May 14, 2016 10:25 AM  

No comments = no credibility.


IT means its propaganda not news, that wants to control the narrative and can't stand up to criticism.

Over half the value and truth of a news piece is found in the comments.

THE MSM of course is loath to admit this basic truth.

Anonymous Gen. Kong May 14, 2016 10:29 AM  

The spoiled little bitches of Haahvahd need Mohammed's men to teach them a lesson or five about the real meaning of "patriarchy". The irony is, they'd probably enjoy it. That's where they need to be resettling ISIS "refugees". Princess Fauxcahontas should set up a wigwam in the middle of Haahvahd sqaiyah for them.

Anonymous Gen. Kong May 14, 2016 10:40 AM  

Mr. Mantra Man:
The gals should double down. If they want to destroy their legitimacy then this former conservative will help them as I can.

You vastly underestimate the power of their lie. When Femen high-priestess Gloria Steinem defended Beelzebubba with the "one-free grope" dispensation in the wake of l'affaire Lewinsky, all feminist arguments basically 'jumped the shark' - the dispensation standing as absolute proof that the whole thing was a massive pile of bullshit. That was two decades ago. Has there been any reduction in the power of feminism in the maggot-encrusted carcass of western societies? On the contrary, their power is greater than ever. In the EUSSR, feminists are all lined up in favor of the Musloid invasion. In a sane world, they would be laughed out of existence.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan May 14, 2016 10:49 AM  

What can I say Kong but the conservatives who stood in the way of fems were actually what propped up that bit of theater, as conservatives are wont to do.

Hopefully the alt-right undermines the legitimacy instead of playing their part in the political theater, think George Will sitting there pondering the rhetoric of a Lefty as the second coming of Aristotle (we better take that shit seriously) Myself I will take Gavin Mccinnes over George Will.

Alt-right not the same old conservative shit, I hope.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan May 14, 2016 10:54 AM  

Thinking operationally, we live in the Jim Jones cult, now a conservative would want an intellectual debate with Jones, the usual routine, the usual fail but feel good about being "smart" routine that conservative leaning people have accepted for decades.

Here is the thing, we stand outside the compound as it descends into rule by the craziest and basically just state the obvious, "They are all crazy and do any of you want to go home?"

From there the cult begins its disintergration. Trump calls it "Making America Great Again."

Blogger Greg Johnson May 14, 2016 10:57 AM  

Yup, Harvard is brimming with oppressed and socially-marginalized people.

Blogger Cinco May 14, 2016 11:05 AM  

The spoiled little bitches of Haahvahd need Mohammed's men to teach them a lesson or five about the real meaning of "patriarchy".

What what a great opportunity to experience another culture in America that would be!

Blogger Cinco May 14, 2016 11:08 AM  

Last week, Harvard announced that they were cracking down on “privilege” within their student community by banning members of single-gender organizations from holding school leadership positions.

Operation Chaos opportunity here! Just have all male organizations except transgender weirdos, boom no women will ever admit to that, and the number of trans at Harvard is probably low. Now you are a multi gendered organization and you can hold leadership positions.

Blogger Gapeseed May 14, 2016 11:15 AM  

When you consider how skillfully this Harvard pronouncement outed the grasping illogic of campus feminists, you have to wonder whether some closeted and sympathetic super genius dean lurks in the high offices behind the Ivy Curtain in Cambridge.

Anonymous Godfrey May 14, 2016 11:28 AM  

"Feminism" was a con. It was a scam to destroy motherhood. and femininity.
Working 50 years in a corporate cubical isn't "liberation". It's corporate serfdom.

We all get "raped" daily by taxation and the monetary fiat scam. That's true systematic oppression.

Blogger Ahazuerus May 14, 2016 11:30 AM  

@31

I suspect there are some in the halls of academe who still believe that their endowment funds depend at least in some significant degree on maintaining a semblance of rationality.

They could, of course, be wrong ...

Anonymous Wyrd May 14, 2016 11:30 AM  

...because women experience systematic oppression...

Even de facto matriarchies oppress women. O Lawd, it's hard to have a cunt!

Blogger Nick S May 14, 2016 11:48 AM  

Hoisted by their own petards, they will de-legitimize themselves into obscurity. The trick, for those with long time preferences, is staying ahead of the expanding event horizon. Be careful what you wish for, ladies.

Blogger Rantor May 14, 2016 11:52 AM  

I work in the government sector, I have seen numerous organizational mission briefings that tout diversity as if it is part of the mission. Recently I had a surprisingly positive experience. An Army civilian woman briefed her organization's personnel and hiring program. It was 100% about performance and attracting top talent from leading universities in technical and engineering fields. Not one word or suggestion of diversity in her presentation. No one else at the organization mentioned diversity either. They were an adequately diverse group but very aggressive and mission focused.

Since diversity is still big elsewhere, and this woman oversees HR for an organization with thousands of employees, I optimistically wonder whether this organization is somehow post-diversity in their mission outlook.

Anonymous Marilyn May 14, 2016 12:21 PM  

There is nothing equal about people. DNA tells us that. However when rules are not applied equally it's no more than a matter of personal rent seeking and completely unjustified.

Blogger Ahazuerus May 14, 2016 12:23 PM  

I have the mixed blessing to work for a large US-domiciled corporate (~60,000 people).

The HR department are hopeless at doing anything useful like hiring or organising other necessary affairs, but every day they inundate us with bullshit about the wonders of diversity.

What always fascinates me about it is that they openly tout that their measure of success is increasing female and/or other "victim class du jour" proportion within the company, but I have never seen them highlight the performance of the company itself as a measure of their success.

Convergence - Winter is Coming.

Anonymous Satan's Hamster May 14, 2016 12:27 PM  

"That reminds me of a friend, who is a woman. She doesn't like having a female boss because it's "unnatural.""

Even my female friends don't like female managers. There are probably some good ones around, but the female managers they have to deal with either treat then like kids and micro-manage them until to death, or spend all their time trying to build 'consensus' when all the workers really want is for the manager to make a damn decision like they're paid to do.

Every female friend who's expressed a preference is much happier working for a male boss.

Anonymous Ilk#10,191 May 14, 2016 12:43 PM  

Feminism means having all of a man's privileges with none of the responsibilities.

Anonymous Wyrd May 14, 2016 12:47 PM  

Feminism means having all of a man's privileges with none of the responsibilities.

That's all of Leftism in a nutshell: All rights but no responsibilities. A parasite's paradise.

Blogger Dexter May 14, 2016 12:54 PM  

What is pathetic is that the male orgs don't even take time to protest the protesters: "Shut up and be equal" is such an easy sign.

Are there any shitlords at Harvard? Most of the "men" are liberal; the "conservatives" are doubtless of the white-knighting "women civilize men" Jonah Goldberg type.

An Army civilian woman briefed her organization's personnel and hiring program. It was 100% about performance and attracting top talent from leading universities in technical and engineering fields. Not one word or suggestion of diversity in her presentation.

Did she have the magic shield of Africa as well as the magic shield of Woman?

the female managers they have to deal with either treat then like kids and micro-manage them until to death,

Last week I saw a printed email in the common printer from some female manager telling her minions that if they weren't at their desks at 8am sharp they had to notify her and explain why they weren't there. I thought geez I'm glad I'm not working for that bitch.

Anonymous Spartacus xxxxx May 14, 2016 12:57 PM  

"At MIT, you can smell the fear." -Harvard campus saying

please complete-

"At Harvard..." -MIT campus saying

Blogger GracieLou May 14, 2016 12:58 PM  

“It has been a mental health respite, a place to discuss [perhaps fantasize about Shades of Grey style] sexual assaults . . . where I became a feminist, and where I refound my [shrill shrill] voice.”

“targeted and shamed”

But...when it comes to losing a "safe space" and being targeted at Target suddenly they lose their "voice". Because normal, possibly Christian housewives who fear sexual harassment are just a bunch of phobic dipshits...or something. Because you see it's totally reasonable for a woman to fear rape and death after hearing a fork and dongle joke in a stadium full of tech nerds but if a normal, possibly Christian/Nazi woman feels flimsy peekaboo curtains and American style stalls aren't safe spaces for mixed company...well. They're dipshits, fit only for scorn and mockery and all the shame a shrill shrill feminist can muster.

Again, EVERY WORD they say is A LIE including 'and' and 'the'.

I'm working on a meme. Topic: Target rape rooms. I've Photoshopped the text off the Calvin Klein upskirt ad. What to put? "...meanwhile in a bathroom at Target." ??? Steves? Anybody?

Anonymous Jill May 14, 2016 1:07 PM  

Harvard sounds so boring.

Anonymous mature-Craig May 14, 2016 1:10 PM  

But if your society collapses amidst ethnic violence, at least you can console yourselves with the knowledge that no one called you racist.

lol

Anonymous mature-Craig May 14, 2016 1:13 PM  

but I believe its possible to live amongst people of a different ethnic background and still survive and thrive, it takes work and effort and will though

Blogger tz May 14, 2016 1:13 PM  

Hollywood gets sued by the ACLU not enough minority directors.

Anonymous Dave May 14, 2016 1:24 PM  

Oh, happy days! If anyone in the world needs their privilege checked, it's the entire student body of Harvard. An acceptance letter from Harvard is an express ticket to the upper echelons of politics, business, academia, and the media, yet they still won't stop whining.

Anonymous BGKB May 14, 2016 1:59 PM  

this woman oversees HR for an organization with thousands of employees, I optimistically wonder whether this organization is somehow post-diversity in their mission outlook

"What do you mean we can't fire the guy who said they are just hookers he picked up trying to shake him down for mo money, after 2 ER patients claimed he sexually assaulted them, we just fired a white female nurse last week for no reason"

I've Photoshopped the text off the Calvin Klein upskirt ad. What to put? "...meanwhile in a bathroom at Target." ??? Steves? Anybody?

"As long as one man in a wig is denied access to little girls bathrooms the leftists fight against the 1% can wait." The funny thing is liberals will agree with it.

Anonymous Blue SFF Reader May 14, 2016 2:06 PM  

Rantor wrote:I work in the government sector, I have seen numerous organizational mission briefings that tout diversity as if it is part of the mission. Recently I had a surprisingly positive experience. An Army civilian woman briefed her organization's personnel and hiring program. It was 100% about performance and attracting top talent from leading universities in technical and engineering fields. Not one word or suggestion of diversity in her presentation. No one else at the organization mentioned diversity either. They were an adequately diverse group but very aggressive and mission focused.

Since diversity is still big elsewhere, and this woman oversees HR for an organization with thousands of employees, I optimistically wonder whether this organization is somehow post-diversity in their mission outlook.



Maybe, but it's site by site. Some units have tasted the poison and rejected it, even though they mouth the words in praise when the higher-ups wander in. Many see that diversity (quota, not candidate pool) destroys efficiency and makes the work place a horrid place to be over time.

Blogger Robert What? May 14, 2016 2:09 PM  

My prediction is that Harvard caves to the feminists. At least until the lawsuits.

Blogger Were-Puppy May 14, 2016 2:30 PM  

@36 Rantor
Since diversity is still big elsewhere, and this woman oversees HR for an organization with thousands of employees, I optimistically wonder whether this organization is somehow post-diversity in their mission outlook.
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Don't bet on it. I am sure there it is simply unspoken.

Blogger Were-Puppy May 14, 2016 2:34 PM  

@44 GracieLou

I'm working on a meme. Topic: Target rape rooms. I've Photoshopped the text off the Calvin Klein upskirt ad. What to put? "...meanwhile in a bathroom at Target." ??? Steves? Anybody?
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I had a couple ideas for this.

One was to change that target red ball to the Obama "O".

One that I saw was great was Jack Nicholson, from the Shining, Poking his maniacal face between some curtains, asking "Is This The Target Ladies Room?"

Anonymous Jack Amok May 14, 2016 2:42 PM  

They say that an ivy league education used to elicit admiration and respect, instead of pity and contempt.

That's what I think, except for the pity part. I've worked with a lot of Ivy League grads over the years. Most did more harm than good - they bring their Insider Club politics to the org and destroy it.

The sooner we stop sending any kids with potential there and ruining them, the better.

Anonymous EH May 14, 2016 2:43 PM  

Rare logical fallacies: Argumentum ad concisorem.
Argument from lumberjacks.
e.g.: "I'm a lumberjack and I'm O.K."

Anonymous Gen. Kong May 14, 2016 2:50 PM  

Godfrey:
"Feminism" was a con. It was a scam to destroy motherhood. and femininity.
Working 50 years in a corporate cubical isn't "liberation". It's corporate serfdom.

We all get "raped" daily by taxation and the monetary fiat scam. That's true systematic oppression.


Absolutely. not just feminism either (that's only one branch of the poison-tree), but the whole tree of equality - root and branch and leaf alike. All a massive con. Ask any cuck why is it that "super-capitalists" like the (((Warburg))) banking cartel paid for Lenin and (((Trotsky))) to overthrow the Kerensky government (keep in mind, the Tsar was already out) and they just give you this blank, dumbfounded look. It doesn't compute. Why would the arch-bizniss mogul (((Armand Hammer))) be supporting the Bolsheviks who abolished private property? Guess not everyone's property was taken - there were looters and those who were looted. The whole damned thing is a con, and has been from the start. Anyone who expects Con, Inc. to oppose any aspect of it is utterly blind, or worse.

Blogger John Wright May 14, 2016 3:04 PM  

"There is nothing equal about people. DNA tells us that."

They should go back to teaching civics in high school. Stupid statements like the above tells us that.

Equality is a moral and legal concept, which the data gleaned from DNA say exactly nothing about. One man is smart and another is dumb; one is tall and another is short; one calm and the other excitable. In these things, men differ.

One man's life is sacred, a gift from God, and not to be taken from him, by murder or slavery, but the taker forsake his own life. And so is every other man's life, born or unborn.

We have seen the rich and famous, whose skin was the proper hue, men like OJ Simpson, get away with murder. Any poor, obscure, or white man committing the same crime would have been punished. Is this the inequality our DNA proclaims? The the rich can break laws we must obey? Inequality is not so attractive when seen in its true proportion.

No man was born with a saddle on his back to be the beast of burden of another man born with spurs on his heels. All men are born as sons of God, and of the same rank, not master and servant.

That is what the word equality means. Those who misuse the word in this absurdly tin-eared way, whether the misuse is intentional or not, aid in the attempt to make human life less sacred in our eyes.

Such talk demeans the public discourse and aids the enemy.

Even the barbaric Mohammedan has a clearer understanding of the word 'equality' -- for do not all the heretics following that false prophet bow and pray to their satanic god at the same hours, regardless of social status, give the same to the poor, and recite the same book? Not even Allah is a respecter of persons: is anyone born into the West less well informed than a make-believe devil?

Blogger Mr.MantraMan May 14, 2016 3:07 PM  

I'm sure access to the Harvard endowment has nothing to do with any of this. I think they should fight

Anonymous Trimegistus May 14, 2016 3:45 PM  

I have a good female friend who got a job under a woman boss and said, rather matter-of-factly, "Of course I'll have to watch out for her trying to sabotage me." Women know women are horrible to work for; they just never think it through to the obvious conclusion.

As to diversity, I have a fun game I like to play: ask people to explain the benefits of diversity without using the words "diversity" or "diverse" in their answer.

Anonymous Trimegistus May 14, 2016 3:49 PM  

Werepuppy: A meme has to be more visual. Try a (barely NSFW) photo of some bound and gagged woman from bondage porn with the label "SHOP AT TARGET."

Anonymous Quartermaster May 14, 2016 3:56 PM  

Lumberjacks do work useful to society, unlike SJWs. Once could contend that SJWs do something useful by providing us with opportunities to fisk someone, but I could do with fewer targets.

Blogger Rusty Fife May 14, 2016 4:11 PM  

GracieLou wrote:targeted at Target

That looks pretty good.

#targeted@Target

Blogger Rusty Fife May 14, 2016 4:14 PM  

@62

It does remind me of that terrorist leader that was complaining about somebody blowing up people at a Jordanian Safe Way. He said something like "it wasn't a Target."

Anonymous Eduardo May 14, 2016 4:21 PM  

Were-puppy

All you have to do is to take a picture of you within a target bathroom...

Think how awesome hhehehehehe... Oh and of course holding a sign of transpecies ;-) just in case!

Anonymous Millenium May 14, 2016 4:35 PM  

One that I saw was great was Jack Nicholson

Use someone other than Nicholson. He doesn't have half naked models on his yacht by accident. Find some creepy guy instead.

Blogger GracieLou May 14, 2016 7:31 PM  

Thanks for the input ilk. Here's how it turned out:

Targeted At Target

Blogger Edgelord May 14, 2016 8:34 PM  

Meanwhile, Bruce Gender and friends want to invade the original 'safe space' : the ladies restroom. That's okay though.

The last time we had this crazy about 20 years ago, the dot-com bubble and 9/11 distracted people and the threat was never completely exterminated. This time get the eggs too!

Blogger Edgelord May 14, 2016 8:44 PM  

There is a Yes Minister element of giving legbeards a 'voice' as in 'let Little Kayla sing her song from the play so she can have her milk and cookies and go to bed, and we can continue our bridge game.'

Blogger Edgelord May 14, 2016 8:57 PM  

There is a thick binder of bullshit I picked up today at a political convention sitting on my couch. (The boss is a neurosurgeon, but not Ben Carson. Think Pepsi.) However you just have to bite your tongue and smile to get bigger things done.

Blogger Edgelord May 14, 2016 9:08 PM  

Can someone please explain if those red balls they have out front are supposed to be bremer walls or someone's idea of a joke? Never got a chance during the five minutes they set up their Three Card Monty table here.

Blogger Aeoli Pera May 14, 2016 9:10 PM  

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Blogger Were-Puppy May 14, 2016 11:45 PM  

@65 Millenium
One that I saw was great was Jack Nicholson

Use someone other than Nicholson. He doesn't have half naked models on his yacht by accident. Find some creepy guy instead.
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You guys are misunderstanding me, that wasn't my meme. It was one that I saw maybe at BB. And it seemed pretty good to me.

My own kind of idea was to put that Obama "O" in the Target brand name instead of their red target - which yeah it's not as great as the ideas here :P

Blogger Were-Puppy May 14, 2016 11:47 PM  

@66 GracieLou
Thanks for the input ilk. Here's how it turned out:

Targeted At Target
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That's pretty good. I'll have to think harder on some ideas for this one. I spend a lot of time keeping the list up to date on this particular subject.

Blogger Were-Puppy May 14, 2016 11:49 PM  

@70 Edgelord
Can someone please explain if those red balls they have out front are supposed to be bremer walls or someone's idea of a joke?
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I think those are in place to keep angry people from ramming the store in their vehicles.

Blogger Were-Puppy May 14, 2016 11:51 PM  

If only there was a way to combine that dead syrian kid with the Target bathroom situation - gruesome but would be a powerful visual.

Anonymous VFM 8859 May 15, 2016 4:39 PM  

I'm a hiring manager and wouldn't even think once.

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