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Saturday, May 21, 2016

Why the USA is no longer a nation

This animated graphic of 200 years of immigration into the United States demonstrates it rather clearly.

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Anonymous Eduardo May 21, 2016 12:22 AM  

Wow, thought the USA would go supernova close to the 2010 mark. I had no idea the immigration have been so wide spread and at such large numbers.

Mexico has a constant influx XD, which is pretty fun, Viva La Raza I suppose. Brazil gets some dots going too, sons of a gun left-o's going to another country trying to find a better life. Pretty damn shitty people in my not really humble opinion

I think that is Peru there? No no wait, that is Colombia sending some expressive numbers to the US. Guess the US never left its colonial times if you think about, such a huge influx.

Well... So, what is the plan? U_U mister 150+ IQ, I bet you have an idea to save the US, can't be just repatriation, you would still be left with the anti-America americans.

Anonymous Bobby Farr May 21, 2016 12:26 AM  

But it shows we had people coming from all over one corner of Europe for 300 years. So obviously letting people in from all over the world doesn't change the nation. We were always diverse. /sarc

OpenID paworldandtimes May 21, 2016 12:33 AM  

Saw the Angry Birds movie. An anti-immigration allegory? Big time. Red is a Shitlord to the end and saves the day. In a key exchange, when sweet/silly Bird Island denizens accept the Pigs’ sob story about why they’re here, an authority figure scolds Red for being an immigrant-sceptic. He fires back: (paraphrasing) “the right questions weren’t ever asked.”

PA

Blogger Cederq May 21, 2016 12:42 AM  

We are so flipping flucked...

Blogger Noah B May 21, 2016 12:43 AM  

Good graphic, but not as illustrative as a trip to Walmart.

Blogger SteelPalm May 21, 2016 12:44 AM  

Excellent link. I would have never guessed that in the 1950's Germany was the number one country from which people immigrated, either. Perhaps the 40s, but spilling into the 50s?

Or that Canada had multiple stints in the top 3.

Or that China and "Other Asia" surpass everything except Mexican immigration by a wide margin nowadays.

Blogger praetorian May 21, 2016 1:19 AM  

Dammit.

Anonymous LMS May 21, 2016 1:36 AM  

I think the more truthful message is that the U.S. Is no longer a nation...of primarily ignorant, racist, bigoted white men.

Anyone who doubts the U.S. Is a nation doesn't understand the limits of rhetoric, let alone the nature of nationhood.

Anonymous IncoherentM May 21, 2016 1:42 AM  

This is why I'm not as confident Trump will walk away with the election as some here. Demographics do not favor national candidates that are centrist or right of center.

Blogger Laramie Hirsch May 21, 2016 1:44 AM  

LMS = latest menstrual seepage.

Blogger CarpeOro May 21, 2016 1:58 AM  

@8

I do not think rhetoric means what you think it means. Of course, I don't think you understand most of the words you used that have more than four letters, but that one really stood out.

Blogger Groot May 21, 2016 2:09 AM  

@8. LMS:
"I think the more truthful message is that the U.S. Is no longer a nation...of primarily ignorant, racist, bigoted white men."

A nation of primarily ignorant, racist, bigoted colored men and women is so superior, because Venezuela equals so-good. So good. Unless you like toilet paper. And food. And medicine.

Anonymous Ultimate Shitlord May 21, 2016 2:12 AM  

@8

"Diverse" nations aren't coherent nations. They're fair-weather shared economies where conflict is only held back by relatively good times. America and other countries full of racial alien colonists are just one economic downturn away from massive ethnic cleansing. The founding fathers knew this and you would know this if you read their writings and looked the first immigration act.

The horrible bigoted white men you hate so much are basically the only reason you can shitpost on this blog or have any nice things at all. I'm sure you'd like to imagine some kind of good times will keep rolling without them, but they won't. You'll live in a third world shithole.

Blogger Aeoli Pera May 21, 2016 2:30 AM  

Creating the debt Americans won't.

Blogger Aeoli Pera May 21, 2016 2:44 AM  

Noah B wrote:Good graphic, but not as illustrative as a trip to Walmart.

Lol.

Give Sam your scooter-bound, your morbidly obese,
Your 60-IQ parasites yearning to spend EBT,
The parasitic diabetics teeming with tuberculosis,
Send these, the petty criminal, the barbarian horde, to Sam:
I lift my lamp by my neighbor's door because he wouldn't let me join his country club.

Blogger Sir Thermite May 21, 2016 2:57 AM  

I think the more truthful message is that the U.S. Is no longer a nation...of primarily ignorant, racist, bigoted white men

Take "white" out of it and you describe every nation on the face of the earth. But hey, congratulation- if the demographics change continues as predicted, and the U.S. doesn't split into smaller segregated nations, just imagine how much fun it will be to add to your list of worries getting curb-stomped by a white gang for wearing the wrong colors. Won't have the luxury of hearing them coming from 3 blocks away on Harleys either....those dudes will be fit and fleet afoot.

Can you smell the equality?

Blogger IreneAthena May 21, 2016 2:57 AM  

LMS wrote:I think the more truthful message is that the U.S. Is no longer a nation...of primarily ignorant, racist, bigoted white men.

I agree! There are openly racist White (and Black and Asian) WOMEN here, too! It's the evil hearts, not the spectrum of skin tones, making the whole thing a mess.

Ultimate Shitlord wrote:America and other countries full of racial alien colonists are just one economic downturn away from massive ethnic cleansing.

Immigrants and economic downturn are already here. Surely you have the imagination and IQ to be able to suggest practical alternatives to massive ethnic cleansing? By practical, I do not mean repatriation of everyone whose ancestors weren't in America by a certain date and from an approved list of countries. You know that's not going to work. I recall when such a date and such a list was suggested on these threads, minion turned against minion.

Blogger Scott C May 21, 2016 3:06 AM  

What good will it do to build a wall? One-third of Mexicans live in America.

Blogger Sir Thermite May 21, 2016 3:23 AM  

What good will it do to build a wall?

I'd put the odds of Trump building a wall spanning the entire border only slightly higher than Obama closing Gitmo (which I observe he's had almost 8 years to do). But at least in Trump's case the rhetoric is correct, and much-needed.

Blogger dh May 21, 2016 3:31 AM  

This is all based on legal numbers?

Anonymous Takin' a Look May 21, 2016 4:12 AM  

@dh

As far as I can see, yes. It's all based on legal numbers. How much you wanna bet only primary naturalized citizens are counted and not the chain migration effect. Obviously illegals aren't included because we don't know for sure. 11 million is the number we've heard bandied about since 1990. Yea, I don't believe it's that low, it's probably close to 60 million at least by now.

Blogger Krul May 21, 2016 4:13 AM  

LMS wrote:I think the more truthful message is that the U.S. Is no longer a nation...of primarily ignorant, racist, bigoted white men.

What's baffling is how those ignorant, racist, bigoted white men managed to create a country that's so attractive and welcoming to multitudes of enlightened, tolerant, peaceful non-whites...

Blogger Mr.MantraMan May 21, 2016 4:22 AM  

Lms could not possibly answer any questions

Anonymous JAG May 21, 2016 4:35 AM  

LMS posted: "I think the more truthful message is that the U.S. Is no longer a nation...of primarily ignorant, racist, bigoted white men."

Do you really think you will be a comissar in the brave new world? You won't. The fate of useful idiots once they become useless is not much fun. You will have no nation either way. If we win we will deal with you most harshly. If the totalitarians win they will deal with you even more harshly. Why? Because you were willing to betray your nation so they cannot trust you once they gain control.

Blogger SteelPalm May 21, 2016 4:42 AM  

@24 JAG

Well said. It's a lesson leftists throughout dozens of different generations and countries never seem to grasp.

Blogger frenchy May 21, 2016 4:47 AM  

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Blogger frenchy May 21, 2016 4:54 AM  

@1,

Well. First of all, stop legal immigration until the State Department can effectively track who is here and who is not. Right now it cannot even account for who is legally here/overstaying their visas. Turn off the federal entitlements. Prosecute anyone harboring or employing illegals. Send the illegals back, and tell them if you catch them here again illegally that they won't be alive for a third. Revoke the immigration act of '65. And once we start re-admitting people, admit them in limited quantities based on common culture (ie: Canada, Australia, UK, NZ), or common beliefs (ie: Swiss). Basically, Anglo Saxon Christian with a belief in small limited government.

Stop invading the world and then inviting the conflict fallout--refugees--here. Guard the southern border; be willing to shoot anyone crossing illegally. Get rid of dual nationality. Get rid of birthright citizenship. Don't allow birthright citizenship to those here illegally. I know that those here legally get 14th amendment coverage, and thus citizenship. Amend the 14th; change this to require that one parent must be American. In other words, no more legal or illegal anchor babies.

Revoke the Cuba policy of letting them stay here if they reach American soil. Stop allowing foreign nationals the ability to join our military and get fast track citizenship--don't let them join (we got plenty of people here). Don't allow naturalized immigrants, or their offspring, the right to vote until the third generation as the first two will still retain 100% of their native culture. Never, NEVER, allow anyone in from those countries whose culture runs counter to ours. Diligently screen asylum seekers, especially if they are from banned countries--is your request for political, ethnic, or religious reasons, and why did you not go into a neighboring country?

Anonymous Clay The Swamp Spartan May 21, 2016 4:54 AM  

Good Lord.

I'd just as soon win in the VPFL.

Some nasty crap, here.

Anonymous D Sade May 21, 2016 5:00 AM  

27. frenchy May 21, 2016 4:54 AM
@1,

Well. First of all, stop legal immigration until the State Department can effectively track who is here and who is not.

LOL Frenchy. You know the water-well things theses liberals lay out for them?

Poison them.

Blogger Bob Loblaw May 21, 2016 5:02 AM  

LMS, you shouldn't presume to instruct others when you don't know the difference between a nation and a country.

Blogger No Thank you May 21, 2016 5:17 AM  

IncoherentM wrote:This is why I'm not as confident Trump will walk away with the election as some here. Demographics do not favor national candidates that are centrist or right of center.

So Race War when then?

Blogger frenchy May 21, 2016 5:29 AM  

@ D Sade,

I think we are the only country that assists illegals as they cross through dangerous regions. Stupid!

Blogger No Thank you May 21, 2016 6:05 AM  

Anyone else notice that immigrationist never are able to answer the most basic questions and either change the subject/name call/ or just run away?

Blogger rcocean May 21, 2016 6:24 AM  

"What good will it do to build a wall?"

To keep 1/2 of Mexico from living here.

Anonymous Culture Heretic May 21, 2016 6:25 AM  

I bet the edgy edgelord up above has the exact same IP as the one that's been spamming every thread.

At least it stopped saying "you guys" or something cucked like "men of color" like it (ab)normally does.

Blogger exfarmkid May 21, 2016 7:04 AM  

Wow.

A real-time graphic showing our constitutional republic gradually being turned into a diverse grouping of nations with little in common.

Definitely passing this on. Thanks.

Blogger Aeoli Pera May 21, 2016 7:09 AM  

OT: I have experienced a lot of weird supernatural stuff in the last year and I need advice from a good Christian who is not stupid. Do we have any of those and would they mind chatting?

Blogger Aeoli Pera May 21, 2016 7:14 AM  

More specifically, I need to know whether I should be alarmed or just cautious.

Blogger IreneAthena May 21, 2016 7:25 AM  

@28 nasty crap
@37 weird supernatural stuff
*shrugs*

Blogger IreneAthena May 21, 2016 7:32 AM  

(I'm not qualified. That wasn't advice. It was commentary. I hope you find someone who can help.)

Anonymous mature craig May 21, 2016 7:46 AM  

Very informative graphic I assume the numbers are accurate

Anonymous mature craig May 21, 2016 7:49 AM  

One might make the inference that African Americans are as nativist and have as tenured a status here as anyone

Blogger Harsh May 21, 2016 7:55 AM  

@LMS

White men took us to the moon. Diversity gave us Detroit.

Blogger Phillip George May 21, 2016 8:00 AM  

To summarize a lot of people wanted to come to a Christian Nation that exported Missionaries to civilize the as yet still heathen regions of the planet.

Jesus is everything, all the time.

Not just the source of a cosmos, but intricate details like ink on maps. If I were a gambling man I might suggest He's somewhat metaphorically shitty about the current condition of the place based not on ethnic distribution but pig ignorance of "life, the Universe and Everything".

Railways and shipping containers, steam engines and computers changed everything that's entirely superficial. cheers.

Blogger Orville May 21, 2016 8:04 AM  

The "wall" is an easily identifiable rallying point. Trump doesn't have to build a literal wall, though it's not a bad idea. He can also build a financial wall, no money transfers back to Mexico, or a legal enforcement law, employers facing business ending fines for having illegals.

Blogger Tank May 21, 2016 8:28 AM  

Depressing and illuminating.

Anonymous George of the Jungle May 21, 2016 8:34 AM  

@24 JAG...

LMS can't hear you... (s)he's the kind who is quite willing to be raped or die for her Sacred Memes, or perhaps I should say quite willing to have YOU die for those Perfect Idealistic Dreams. Meanwhile she has orgasms about leading the multitudes to some multiculti heaven on earth.

Blogger dienw May 21, 2016 8:40 AM  

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Blogger dienw May 21, 2016 8:50 AM  

@ 37
more sites to visit/read through.
Watchman2009
Parables Blog

These two are prophets. LC is a prophet, seer,and a remote viewer.

Blogger dienw May 21, 2016 8:52 AM  

Aeoli Pera wrote:
OT: I have experienced a lot of weird supernatural stuff in the last year and I need advice from a good Christian who is not stupid. Do we have any of those and would they mind chatting?


This person. If you have the means donate; If you do not have the means, pray for the protection her and her family.
Read through her posts from the beginning.

Blogger Lovekraft May 21, 2016 8:53 AM  

There should have been a skull and crossbones around any Soros-backed immigrationi.

Blogger W.LindsayWheeler May 21, 2016 8:58 AM  

It is unbelievable that we have a large country where the leadership and half the population are committing treason. How does one have a country, where the leadership commits treason? Nevermind the large influx of foreigners, this is planned genocide of Europeans and of the WASPs.

Britain is going the same way. Prof. Keven MacDonald points out in a massive study, that this is all instigated by Jews from at least 1881 and Hitler was nowhere around. The Jews have sought constantly to undermine the WASP character of America. Why these people continue to hold citizenship in this country or positions of leadership in this country is beyond me. If this was a Monarchy--the Jews should have been ALL deported for Treason.

Kevin MacDonald’s "Jewish Involvement in Shaping American Immigration Policy, 1881-1965: A Historical Review."
http://www.kevinmacdonald.net/Immigration.pdf

The Jews instigated and maneuvered the 1965 Immigration Act that is destroying this country; it is an act of High Treason which commits existential Genocide. Why are Jews still in this country? and Why do we let them in positions of cultural and political power?

This country is NOT "By the People and For the People---The 1965 Immigration Act is about our Government and laws are FOR "By the Jews for the Jews" and the Jews alone!

Anonymous Eduardo May 21, 2016 9:02 AM  

Frenchy and Sade

Oh well that would solve part of the problem yes. But you still have a large portion of americans that refuse to see America as a whole as a Nation. Think about... Would they throw you out if they had the chance and wouldn't lose anything in the process??? A nation also depends on other people seeing you as part of the nation, otherwise you have that craptonite we see today in.... Well all the West.

Now, I see the war of numbers you are talking about... Yes that is a huge problem when it comes to the government where immigrants will block vote. Also how these people will change the culture of where they living, or rather, where they are living will start reflecting their culture and not America's. It is a tough one... It really is.

U_____U well if you guys want to immigrate to Brazil and bring your mostly European culture, Just settle in the south near the other Europeans... Oh and bring conservatism, we have run out of it. #Desperation

Blogger Mr.MantraMan May 21, 2016 9:10 AM  

Eduardo I think White Chicken Runners are bugging out for Uruguay after they move their bank accounts and renounce American citizenship.

Blogger praetorian May 21, 2016 9:18 AM  

John Wright had intense religious experiences and meets you're criteria.

Blogger YIH May 21, 2016 9:23 AM  

IncoherentM wrote:This is why I'm not as confident Trump will walk away with the election as some here. Demographics do not favor national candidates that are centrist or right of center.
I've been saying the same thing. Assuming the Lizard Queen is the nominee (that's not a given, the 'superdelegates' might abandon her) she's about the weakest opponent Trump could have - as we all saw 8 years ago. Because of demographics, it's going to be close, maybe a repeat of 2000 with at least one state in dispute post-election.

Blogger Jakeithus May 21, 2016 9:28 AM  

The Berlin Wall didn't go up till '61, no point building it if there isn't a problem with emigration. My own grandparents left Germany in the early 50s after East Germany was turned into your typical communist hellhole.

Blogger Timmy3 May 21, 2016 9:30 AM  

The USA was always on the move. The last state to join the union was in the 1950s. We lost the ability to assimilate immigrants when we're unwilling to enforce immigration laws.

Anonymous Eduardo May 21, 2016 9:32 AM  

MrMantraMan aka Triple M

Well Uruguay is kind of more to the south... U_U well no problem we will finally annex them! Muhahahahahah! Oh annex Argentina would be a good idea too. Our soccer team will be unbeatable.

Now now... Are those white chickens conservative?

Anonymous mature craig May 21, 2016 9:37 AM  

I sense the African Americans are open minded towards Trump and willing to give him a chance im concerned that some white Trump supporters may turn off potential black supporters

Blogger bob k. mando May 21, 2016 9:37 AM  

8. LMS May 21, 2016 1:36 AM
I think the more truthful message is that the U.S. Is no longer a nation...of primarily ignorant, racist, bigoted white men.



oh. so the Constitution was written by ignorant, racist, bigoted white men?

so surely this means that the USA is hopelessly ignorant, racist and bigoted?

and *you* can't find a SINGLE nation on the planet more fitting to your psychosis?


remember, when "straight, white male" is the only group description which is NOT a social construct ( fiction )
THEN
straight, white males are the only group based in reality.


come on LMS, if only you strain at this gnat just a little harder YOU TOO can be just as intelligent and competent as a straight white man. all it takes is that you throw off these social construct identities through which you cripple your full actualization of self.

ps- you should be ashamed, you forgot to call us sexist and homophobic.

Blogger RC May 21, 2016 9:46 AM  

@Aeoli Pera

LK 10:18 He replied, "I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven. 19 I have given you authority to trample on snakes and scorpions and to overcome all the power of the enemy; nothing will harm you. 20 However, do not rejoice that the spirits submit to you, but rejoice that your names are written in heaven."

Though I am thankfully no expert on spiritual warfare, you might find The Life of Saint Anthony by Athanasius helpful in taking stock of your situation. As I'm sure you well know, the principalities and powers are real.

Anonymous SixtusVIth May 21, 2016 9:56 AM  

Aeoli Pera wrote:OT: I have experienced a lot of weird supernatural stuff in the last year and I need advice from a good Christian who is not stupid. Do we have any of those and would they mind chatting?

Any supernatural experience you have should

1.) evidently be of God

2.) clearly reinforce and support the teachings of God (e.g. if it is talking about reincarnation it is a demon in disguise)

3.) be profitable for your sanctification

Anything else you should run from. Hysteria is not a useful response - the Devil cannot harm you unless the Lord allows it; but curiosity and complacency are surefire paths to damnation. Shun anything which is not self-evidently of God, and pray to God for it to leave you.

Email me, if you like, as sixtusvith@gmail.com

Blogger Mr.MantraMan May 21, 2016 9:56 AM  

I take it that the word "racist" is some form of troll point and shriek? And that upon use by a trolltard we are supposed to panic and start our confessional essay length rebuttals detailing why we are not the "real racists?

Anonymous Rhetoric Man May 21, 2016 10:02 AM  

All this talk about treason, and all this talk about no longer being a nation, it's a non-story for most Americans, who aren't concerned with Western Civilization. Why should they be?

While increasing numbers of Americans prefer to stop illegal immigration or limit legal immigration, they realize they are also the children of immigrants. That's what America has always been about.
That's not going to change.

Blogger SixtusVIth May 21, 2016 10:03 AM  

Aeoli Pera wrote:OT: I have experienced a lot of weird supernatural stuff in the last year and I need advice from a good Christian who is not stupid. Do we have any of those and would they mind chatting?

Any supernatural experience should

1.) Self-evidently be of God

2.) Reinforce the teachings of God (e.g. if it is talking about reincarnation it is a demon in disguise)

3.) Be profitable for your sanctification.

Anything that does not meet these criteria is to be shunned. Don't turn hysterical - they cannot hurt you unless the Lord allows it; but curiosity and complacency are surefire paths to damnation.

Email me if you like at sixtusvith@gmail.com

Anonymous Eric the Red May 21, 2016 10:15 AM  

@62 Mr.MantraMan...

"racist" is an incantation of the Holy Progressive Exorcism Ritual. Although lately ever since Trump it hasn't been having any effect. They're frantically consulting with their priests in High Academia to try and figure out what went wrong.

Anonymous rienzi May 21, 2016 10:28 AM  

"I think the more truthful message is that the U.S. Is no longer a nation...of primarily ignorant, racist, bigoted white men."

And they've taken from us, and from our fathers, and from our father's father's fathers, and what have the ignorant, racist, bigoted, white men ever done for us?

Electrical power. Oh, yeah, electrical power, they did give us that.

Airplanes. Railroads. Steamships. Interstates.

Well of course the interstates, the interstates goes without saying.

Theme parks, movies, recorded music, lasers, the internet, cars, television, artificial hips and knees, heart pacemakers, power tools, golf, football.......

Stop! Stop! So with the exception of electrical power, airplanes, railroads, steamships, the interstate highway system, theme parks, movies, recorded music, lasers, the internet, cars, television, artificial hips and knees, heart pacemakers, power tools, golf, and football, what have the ignorant, racist, bigoted, white men ever done for us?

Anonymous kfg May 21, 2016 10:35 AM  

"Anyone who doubts the U.S. Is a nation doesn't understand the limits of rhetoric, let alone the nature of nationhood."

America was never a nation. It was founded as an Imperial federation of nations.

Even as a Proposition nation each member state had and maintained its own propositions. Why do you think that each member state has a complete and fully functional state government?

The flaw of the graphic is that the boundaries are not correct. The US empire was expansive and some of the incoming was not into the US, the US moved into it, absorbing other nations into it.

If you think Vox is playing rhetorical tricks with the idea of nation, go talk a member of one of those absorbed nations.

Is there a Native American in the house?

Anonymous andon May 21, 2016 10:37 AM  

@ #63 ....they realize they are also the children of immigrants. That's what America has always been about.

no, America used to be a nation built on laws. now when its convenient for the left its "a nation of (illegal) immigrants"

Blogger Krul May 21, 2016 10:40 AM  

Re: Supernatural experiences -

"Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, 3 and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you heard was coming and now is in the world already."
-1 John 4:1-3

Anonymous andon May 21, 2016 10:40 AM  

@ #62 Mr.MantraMan
I take it that the word "racist" is some form of troll point and shriek? And that upon use by a trolltard we are supposed to panic and start our confessional essay length rebuttals detailing why we are not the "real racists?

yes, as soon as you start to play that game, you've lost
you're on the defensive

Blogger The Other Robot May 21, 2016 10:43 AM  

Once again the Japanese are reminded that immigration is a bad idea.

Anonymous andon May 21, 2016 10:44 AM  

@ #65 save time by listing things that weren't invented or created by durty white men

Blogger Harsh May 21, 2016 10:48 AM  

Rhetoric Man wrote:While increasing numbers of Americans prefer to stop illegal immigration or limit legal immigration, they realize they are also the children of immigrants. That's what America has always been about.

That's only believed by people who are astoundingly ignorant of history...

Anonymous cheddarman May 21, 2016 11:01 AM  

Aeoli I have some experience in this area. Used to be a sort of lay pastor and have a phd. I also recognize you from other blogs

Anonymous mature craig May 21, 2016 11:05 AM  

Re 858. Do u ever consider that maybe there is an innocent Jewish 15 year old somewhere that may come across that kind of rhetoric and internalize it and get messes up it. I think I should. And also I think you should choose your words carefully and be less offensive if u feel u have a legit point

Anonymous mature craig May 21, 2016 11:07 AM  

-get messed up by it

Anonymous mature craig May 21, 2016 11:09 AM  

-get messed up by it

Anonymous cheddarman May 21, 2016 11:10 AM  

Diverse nation is another word for empire. A lot of empires went belly up in the last century including USSR, Yugoslavia, Austria-Hungary, and British and French colonial empires. America is next on the list.

Anonymous Moonbear May 21, 2016 11:13 AM  

I love coming here to read, whenever I am feeling down and that all hope is lost for humanity...
You guys come along and save the day with humorous and intelligent conversation and I feel less worried somehow, even though I know we're few. :)

Blogger Phat Repat May 21, 2016 11:20 AM  

Rhetoric Man wrote:All this talk about treason, and all this talk about no longer being a nation, it's a non-story for most Americans, who aren't concerned with Western Civilization. Why should they be?

While increasing numbers of Americans prefer to stop illegal immigration or limit legal immigration, they realize they are also the children of immigrants. That's what America has always been about.

That's not going to change.


What's the word I'm looking for here? Oh yes, equivocation.

Blogger Salt May 21, 2016 11:23 AM  

Harsh wrote:Rhetoric Man wrote:While increasing numbers of Americans prefer to stop illegal immigration or limit legal immigration, they realize they are also the children of immigrants. That's what America has always been about.

That's only believed by people who are astoundingly ignorant of history...


Most of us ancestrally came from somewhere else at some point in the past. Be that as it may, is that sufficient a pass when viewing immigration from a cultural (or economic) viewpoint? Absolutely not, if culture and the economy are to be any metric.

To "realize they are also the children of immigrants" is to play the melting pot card. That someone's ancestry came here 300 years ago is of no difference to one arriving today. Therefore a Somali is of equal value as to those who built this country over its history.

None of that is what America is about if one looks at the origins. If one wishes to say America is a propositional country, then what exactly was that proposition? The answer is what the idiots do not like -

"secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity"

Blogger bob k. mando May 21, 2016 11:26 AM  

70. The Other Robot May 21, 2016 10:43 AM
Once again the Japanese are reminded that immigration is a bad idea.



guess the race of the perp, i dare you.

i triple dog dare you.

ah, fuck it. we all know that veterans of the Marine Corp are White.

wait, wut?

http://www.stripes.com/news/defense-attorney-says-okinawa-confession-made-in-a-daze-1.410588


he must have lashed out against a lifetime of White Oppression ... by murdering a Japanese woman?

oh, yeah. Asians have White Privilege too, i keep forgetting that.

Anonymous BigGayKoranBurner May 21, 2016 11:26 AM  

Demographics do not favor national candidates that are centrist or right of center.

Especially when nigger bitch judges say illegals can vote. http://www.thedailysheeple.com/kansas-judge-rules-people-dont-have-to-prove-they-are-us-citizens-to-vote-here_052016

I think the more truthful message is that the U.S. Is no longer a nation...of primarily ignorant, racist, bigoted white men

It only took 60 years for whitey to go from Wright Bros first flight to walking on the moon. The wise latrina on the supreme court got a free ride to Princeton for being the smartest latrina in the USA but was not even in the top 20% of her high school class.

What good will it do to build a wall?

If TRUMP said today that he will give a pardon to anyone who kills an illegal alien that is responsible for the deaths of Americans, by the time he got into office 1/2 of them would have fleed & I would be out on inauguration day looking for a 3 time DUI former patient of mine with a mauser and rainbow feather boa.

that's so attractive and welcoming to multitudes of enlightened, tolerant, peaceful non-whites

If you believe that you are as brainwashed as the woman trying to hand out illegal alien kids looking for a home at a gay pride festival during the kindervasion. She really hated me telling people it would be like taking pit bulls into their homes.

Related Man behind "I would like to house an immigrant child in my home"
http://www.shtfplan.com/conspiracy-fact-and-theory/we-are-americans-just-not-legally-time-poster-boy-for-illegal-immigration-exposed-as-pedophile_05192016

"a camp for children with cancer, where Naim worked as a counselor...Naim, who immigrated to the US with his family when he was three years old, was named the ‘Jewish face of the immigration reform struggle’ after he appeared in the Time story… Naim will be deported to Israel after completing his sentence.

I posted that in a leftist forum and people thought 15years prison was too long for his crime. Although I titled it as immigrant activist arrested.

Anonymous Clay May 21, 2016 11:28 AM  

Eduardo. I'm actually beginning to tolerate your ass, as I think most here might agree.

However, please quit with the U___U, and other assorted _____ bullshit.

Thanks much.

Blogger James Dixon May 21, 2016 11:30 AM  

Aeoli, look up Beau. He's probably the best here on that subject.

Anonymous Clay The Swamp Spartan May 21, 2016 11:36 AM  

62. Mr.MantraMan May 21, 2016 9:56 AM
I take it that the word "racist" is some form of troll point and shriek? And that upon use by a trolltard we are supposed to panic and start our confessional essay length rebuttals detailing why we are not the "real racists?"

It's been a long time, but I'd still like to smoke some of that shit.

Anonymous Ain May 21, 2016 11:57 AM  

@37 Aeoli Pera, I know a fair bit about it if you'd like to chat.

Anonymous Rhetoric Man May 21, 2016 12:33 PM  

“America was never a nation. It was founded as an Imperial federation of nations.”

Not quite. It was founded formally by the British, with French, Spanish, and Dutch overtones, mixed in with African slaves and Native American tribes.

“Why do you think that each member state has a complete and fully functional state government?”



Because each arose from the Thirteen Colonies, which was founded formally by the British...

“Is there a Native American in the house?”



Yes. Winnebago ancestry.

“no, America used to be a nation built on laws.”



Still IS, not “used to be”.



“That someone's ancestry came here 300 years ago is of no difference to one arriving today. Therefore a Somali is of equal value as to those who built this country over its history.”



The English felt the same way about the Irish who came to this land.
The Irish felt the same way about the Italian who came to this land.
The Italian felt the same way about the Vietnamese who came to this land.
Etc., etc.

“If one wishes to say America is a propositional country, then what exactly was that proposition?”



Those with only pure English blood, if you want to get technical. Therefore, only those who can lay ancestral claim to the original Thirteen Colonies are able to remain in America today. The rest must immediately self-deport to their place of origin.

You first.

Blogger Chris Mallory May 21, 2016 12:33 PM  

@63 "they realize they are also the children of immigrants."

No, when my ancestors first set foot in the Americas,in 1640, they came as colonists and conquerors. When they crossed the Appalachians , they were moving as conquerors. They were never immigrants.

Every branch of my family tree was in the Americas before 1700, every one of them. Not a dirty immigrant in the bunch. They built and founded this nation.

Blogger Elder Son May 21, 2016 12:36 PM  

Racist is just code for you hate the idea of copulating for a mongrel global new world order.

Blogger Chris Mallory May 21, 2016 12:37 PM  

"Those with only pure English blood, if you want to get technical. Therefore, only those who can lay ancestral claim to the original Thirteen Colonies are able to remain in America today. The rest must immediately self-deport to their place of origin."

Sounds good to me. That would go a long way to cleaning up the mess.

Blogger bob k. mando May 21, 2016 12:38 PM  

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/05/cop-sued-for-drawing-gun-on-man-filming-him/

Blogger praetorian May 21, 2016 1:01 PM  

The English felt the same way about the Irish who came to this land.
The Irish felt the same way about the Italian who came to this land.
The Italian felt the same way about the Vietnamese who came to this land.
Etc., etc.


I'm still looking for a strong rhetorical response to this one.

It's obviously retarded on a moments reflection: mestizos, asians and africans have fuck all to do with european cultural norms, and the Irish (me nan) and Italians, and the germans before them (to a lesser extent) each damaged America as a nation in their own way.

But, rhetorically, it's a tough one: it appeals to the northern european sense of fair play as well as the non-european's resentment and goes directly at the speakers character.

It's really the only thing I have trouble with in conversations these days. I've started to ask how it worked out for the indians, following Vox's lead, but I'm not indian so it doesn't have nearly the same rhetorical oomph.

Blogger praetorian May 21, 2016 1:05 PM  

Those with only pure English blood, if you want to get technical. Therefore, only those who can lay ancestral claim to the original Thirteen Colonies are able to remain in America today. The rest must immediately self-deport to their place of origin.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturalization_Act_of_1790

This law limited naturalization to immigrants who were free white persons of good character.

Americans know so little about their own history. Sad!

Blogger dc.sunsets May 21, 2016 1:31 PM  

Message to the Fed:

You want 2% inflation? Help stop the tsunami of foreigners coming to the USA and keeping wage growth at zero. Maybe if US Chamber of Commerce members had to attract AMERICANS to their job openings they have to offer a bit higher wages.

Anyone who says foreigners have to be imported to fill vacancies should have to explain why simply raising the bid wouldn't suffice.

They can't.

Hiring a Mexican (or an Indian) to fill a vacancy because he's cheaper is utterly anti-American.

Anonymous James Bold May 21, 2016 1:38 PM  

Scott C wrote:What good will it do to build a wall? One-third of Mexicans live in America.
Cut them off of welfare programs and E-Verify them out of jobs, and they'll go home.

Blogger dc.sunsets May 21, 2016 1:38 PM  

"When your grandkids' high schools are majority black and Mestizo, that will be the pool of genes for your great-grandkids. Have you BEEN to rural Mexico?"

Do you so hate your kids and grandkids that you want the USA to look and act like one big slum a la Chicago's Englewood or the shanty towns of Mexico or South Africa?

Anonymous mature craig May 21, 2016 1:42 PM  

A lot of things break down with excessive illegal immigration. It needs to be brought under control. Chaos is bad.

Blogger dc.sunsets May 21, 2016 1:43 PM  

@ James Bold, exactly. If FedGov used the IRS database it could identify anyone working on fake papers within a MONTH.

Fine the crap out of firms & deport people. Enlist the "resettlement agencies" to find with whom to dump all these "unaccompanied minors" back home with their families. Cut off 100% of aid to countries refusing the return of their citizens.

98% of problems gone within a year.

Blogger G-S. May 21, 2016 1:49 PM  

As a percentage of overall world population the time period 1880-1919 had far greater immigration than 1970-present. The difference is the white Russians and Canadians back then assimilated much quicker and were far less visible. The browning of America has been happening for decades and America is still a nation.

Anonymous Ultimate Shitlord May 21, 2016 1:52 PM  

@17 I mean a real economic downturn, something like a great depression where just having enough food to not starve is difficult.

How exactly do you think that's going to play out when our shared economy can't provide enough prosperity for basic needs to the majority of people? When we were all similar (Europeans...), there was crime. There were some killings. But when we're not? It'd probably be worse than the Yugoslav wars.

We're getting there. We're at a point where it's NORMAL for young people to live in a serf-like lifestyle of not being able to afford to move out of their parents houses and not being able to find gainful employment.

Anonymous Rhetoric Man May 21, 2016 1:53 PM  

“No, when my ancestors first set foot in the Americas,in 1640, they came as colonists and conquerors. When they crossed the Appalachians, they were moving as conquerors. They were never immigrants.”

Chris, your ancestors immigrated to the United States from England with the intent to colonize the land and conquer natives.

“Every branch of my family tree was in the Americas before 1700, every one of them. Not a dirty immigrant in the bunch. They built and founded this nation.”


ALL English, huh. “Invade the world, invite the world” would suit here.


“Sounds good to me. That would go a long way to cleaning up the mess.”

Praetorian, it would appear you are going to have to educate Chris. Although, does he actually have a point (rare, as it is) in relation to the following statements?...


“Liberty and the Rights of Englishmen, are concepts that belong solely to the posterity of the American Founding Fathers, a posterity that excludes, among many, many other U.S. citizens.”

“Only descendants of Englishmen can be Americans. There are no pure blood descendants of Englishmen left in America. There are no Americans in America.”

“Indeed, the present situation is a direct consequence of the inability of 19th century immigrants to fully grasp the Rights of Englishmen, because they were never English and they will never be what might be described as Americans version 1.0. More recent arrivals are observably even less able to do so.”


So it would appear that ONLY the English are the legitimate “settlers and rulers” of America. Get your bags packing...

“...and the Irish (me nan) and Italians, and the germans before them (to a lesser extent) each damaged America as a nation in their own way.”



But not the English and Scotch-Irish, praetorian?

“Americans know so little about their own history. Sad!”


Praetorian, you do realize that the 1790 Act was repealed and replaced with several other laws, most notably the Naturalization Law of 1802, right?

“Hiring a Mexican (or an Indian) to fill a vacancy because he's cheaper is utterly anti-American.”


dc, 
it’s actually pro-capitalism. Anti-American, that would require people have a clear definition of what is an American.

“98% of problems gone within a year.”



dc, you don’t really know that.

Anonymous kfg May 21, 2016 1:54 PM  

"Have you BEEN to rural Mexico?"

Yes, and I enjoyed it quite a bit. I saw no shanty towns. I note, however, that I brought US money with me and eventually returned to the US.

Anonymous LMS May 21, 2016 2:02 PM  

"What's baffling is how those ignorant, racist, bigoted white men managed to create a country that's so attractive and welcoming to multitudes of enlightened, tolerant, peaceful non-whites."

Not baffling. They worked hard and smart and imported slave and low cost labor.

Anonymous patrick kelly May 21, 2016 2:16 PM  

@86 Rhetoric Meh:

No, the US was not founded by any fkn' immigrants, or slaves, or indigenous tribes, it was founded by explorers, settlers, and warriors, who didn't come here expecting special to be treated like unwashed princesses getting hand outs and a free ride just cuz' they were breathing and had human DNA.

When the current batch of migrant invaders is done diluting the culture, language, history, and dna that built the US at its strongest they will replace it with mediocre at best 3rd world crap. Enjoy the vibrancy.

What country did all those masses supposedly immigrate to before the US existed? Who naturalized them? The Iroquois?

MPAI and some are more sophisticated than others.

Blogger Elder Son May 21, 2016 2:22 PM  

Yes, and I enjoyed it quite a bit.

Meanwhile in Mexico: https://mojavedesertpatriot.wordpress.com/2016/05/18/its-not-just-the-jihadists/

Blogger praetorian May 21, 2016 2:22 PM  

We understand, RhetoricMan: you hate white people and want a country like Brazil.

Perfectly understandable, given the education system.

Anonymous Gen. Kong May 21, 2016 2:23 PM  

Still IS, not “used to be”.

More Ghost-Dancing I see. Time for Mr. Maxim.

Blogger S1AL May 21, 2016 2:26 PM  

"Pure English" - A contradiction in terms. You guys are funny.

Anonymous Credo in Unum Deum May 21, 2016 2:38 PM  

Strange... How many black, brown, and yellow people want to get into countries built by a bunch of racist straight white guys.

Blogger Feather Blade May 21, 2016 2:58 PM  

@102 And criminals! Don't forget the criminals and members of lower social classes that the English didn't want polluting their island.

Blogger Owen May 21, 2016 3:20 PM  

That was ingenious, very illustrative, great data science!

Blogger Snidely Whiplash May 21, 2016 3:42 PM  

Somewhere around 50% of the pre-Revolutionary immigrants to the Colonies were indentured, almost entirely involuntarily. Mostly English, but with a large percentage of Irish, virtually any offense, including things that could only remotely be termed crimes, could get a poor person transported and sold as an indentured servant. Often children were simply abducted, or "kid-nabbed", from the street and loaded on a ship to be sold at auction.
The numbers dwarf Black slavery by an order of magnitude.
These are the founding stock of the Piedmont, Appalachia and western New England.

Blogger John Wright May 21, 2016 3:58 PM  

@19
Why is the one thing Trump has promised that is the easiest of all to do, the main thing naysayers say he cannot do? How hard is it for a real estate developer to build a wall?

Blogger Were-Puppy May 21, 2016 4:10 PM  

@37 Aeoli Pera
OT: I have experienced a lot of weird supernatural stuff in the last year

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Maybe I can help, having experienced some very weird things in the past.

Blogger Were-Puppy May 21, 2016 4:12 PM  

@42 mature craig

One might make the inference that African Americans are as nativist and have as tenured a status here as anyone
--

True, but the invaders are the paramount issue here.

Blogger Were-Puppy May 21, 2016 4:14 PM  

@45 Orville

Trump doesn't have to build a literal wall,
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Huh? Oh yes, he does

Blogger Were-Puppy May 21, 2016 4:18 PM  

@53 Eduardo
U_____U well if you guys want to immigrate to Brazil and bring your mostly European culture, Just settle in the south near the other Europeans... Oh and bring conservatism, we have run out of it. #Desperation
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Can we bring our guns, ammo, and Confederate flags?

Blogger Were-Puppy May 21, 2016 4:23 PM  

@64 Mr.MantraMan
I take it that the word "racist" is some form of troll point and shriek? And that upon use by a trolltard we are supposed to panic and start our confessional essay length rebuttals detailing why we are not the "real racists?
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I can honestly say I am not a racist, except for that one time in a 3 legged race as a kid.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash May 21, 2016 4:31 PM  

John Wright wrote:Why is the one thing Trump has promised that is the easiest of all to do, the main thing naysayers say he cannot do?
They are the members of the TruConservative(tm) warren. Since their entire self-image is based on their membership in the warren, anything that enforces that is good, anything that threatens that is bad.
Their leaders have declared that Trump is not a member, so he must be excoriated, execrated, denounced from the parapet. Any lie that serves that purpose is good, any truth that hinders it is bad.
So, it's fine for Cruz to send a nearly nude picture of Melania Trump to 2 million Utahans, but a mortal offense against God and man and Truth and Decency for Trump to post an unflattering picture of Heidi Cruz to Twitter.
It's okay for Cruz to knowingly lie directly to the faces of his supporters, with that damnable lawyer-who-knows-he's-putting-on-over-on-the-court smirk of his, but an accursed lie for Trump to have different beliefs and priorities now than he had 20 years ago.
They think it's fine for the warren's candidate to take money and organizational help from the dreaded establishment, but evil for Trump to accept the votes of Democrats.
They will tell you with a straight face that Trump is inciting violence when he and his supporters are physically attacked.
No lie is too big if it defends their ego.

Anonymous A.B. Prosper May 21, 2016 5:08 PM  

Folks, do keep in mind that the current invasion is reversible. Not by any nice Democratic means but by the same way unwanted populations always are.

Will and power.

Whether this should be done or will be done as I suspect is the case is up to interpretation of course.

I'll also note the brittle systems that we have for food, water, shelter and such make this much easier than you might expect.

Anonymous andon May 21, 2016 5:24 PM  

@#97 DC Sunsets

"Anyone who says foreigners have to be imported to fill vacancies should have to explain why simply raising the bid wouldn't suffice."

the businesses only believe in the free market when it suits them.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash May 21, 2016 5:28 PM  

andon wrote:the businesses only believe in the free market when it suits them.

This x 1024

Anonymous andon May 21, 2016 5:31 PM  

99. dc.sunsets

"Do you so hate your kids and grandkids that you want the USA to look and act like one big slum a la Chicago's Englewood or the shanty towns of Mexico or South Africa?"

part of me wants this to happen in the U.S. and Europe too.
I don't want them to interbreed though, I would rather whites flee.
Then all will be plain to see when the greatest countries on earth have been destroyed and no more fingers to be pointed at me.

Anonymous Rhetoric Man May 21, 2016 6:01 PM  

“No, the US was not founded by any fkn' immigrants, or slaves, or indigenous tribes, it was founded by explorers, settlers, and warriors...”

Explorers, settlers, and warriors who emigrated from their native land to a foreign land and founded a civilization.

“who didn't come here expecting special to be treated like unwashed princesses getting hand outs and a free ride just cuz' they were breathing and had human DNA.”



No, they expected to profit handsomely through their colonial exploits, just like other immigrant groups throughout human history.

“When the current batch of migrant invaders is done diluting the culture, language, history, and dna that built the US at its strongest they will replace it with mediocre at best 3rd world crap. Enjoy the vibrancy.”

Did not the English make the same complaint of the Dutch, French, and Spanish? Did not the “nativists” make the same complaint of the Germans and Irish? Did not the Germans and Irish make the same complaint of the Italians? Did not the Italians make the same complaint of the Vietnamese? Did not the Vietnamese make the same complaint of Zimbabwians? And on and on and on...

“MPAI and some are more sophisticated than others.”



Are you one of the idiots or are of the more sophisticated types?

“We understand, RhetoricMan: you hate white people and want a country like Brazil. Perfectly understandable, given the education system.”

White people passed the Naturalization Act of 1802.

“Folks, do keep in mind that the current invasion is reversible. Not by any nice Democratic means but by the same way unwanted populations always are. Will and power.”



Nice words, there, A.B. Any force behind them?

Blogger The Other Robot May 21, 2016 6:21 PM  

Thousands gather for anti-migrant rally in Rome.

Blogger The Other Robot May 21, 2016 6:25 PM  

A respected violence researcher has declared that the Cologne sex attacks show German men have forgotten how to fight, and it’s a good thing.

Blogger Sir Thermite May 21, 2016 6:26 PM  

How hard is it for a real estate developer to build a wall?

Good point. My estimation of the odds has increased. I hope you're right too- I think we all want to see Trump beat Hillary, and want him to be a leader who keeps his word. I note though that Trump can't start building the wall until after he's already won, and if he fails to build it the full length because of Congress or a SCOTUS ruling or whatever, the Democrat running against him next election is hardly likely to castigate him for failing to build something the elitists already wants us to consider racist.

Blogger IreneAthena May 21, 2016 6:52 PM  

@65Rhetoric Man wrote:All this talk about treason, and all this talk about no longer being a nation, it's a non-story for most Americans, who aren't concerned with Western Civilization. Why should they be?

While increasing numbers of Americans prefer to stop illegal immigration or limit legal immigration, they realize they are also the children of immigrants. That's what America has always been about.

That's not going to change.


Is there a firmly defined canon for "Western civilization?"

Is there a date after which all technological, musical, philosophical contributions are compromises to the purity of "Western civilization?"

Would not Americans who are "concerned about Western civilization" be more inclined to actively resist, rather than participate in, a nationalistic "ethnic cleansing" of those without Anglo Saxon heritage?

@42 Interesting. No graphical dots from that part of the world until the 1960's, unless I missed one.

Anonymous Harsh May 21, 2016 7:07 PM  

patrick kelly wrote:@86 Rhetoric Meh:

No, the US was not founded by any fkn' immigrants, or slaves, or indigenous tribes, it was founded by explorers, settlers, and warriors, who didn't come here expecting special to be treated like unwashed princesses getting hand outs and a free ride just cuz' they were breathing and had human DNA.



Exactly. That cannot be stressed enough. Only the historically ignorant such as Rhetoric Man think this country was founded by immigrants.

Blogger praetorian May 21, 2016 7:30 PM  

White people passed the Naturalization Act of 1802

https://sites.google.com/site/kmaclubofamerica/1802-naturalization-act

Brazil.

Just stop talking.

Anonymous A.B. Prosper May 21, 2016 7:39 PM  

Rhetoric Man wrote: A.B. Prosper says “Folks, do keep in mind that the current invasion is reversible. Not by any nice Democratic means but by the same way unwanted populations always are. Will and power.”



Nice words, there, A.B. Any force behind them?


I don't know. The Reconquista was a pretty big thing though. Besides anyone associated with anything like Laguna Beach Fogey's almost certainly nonexistent "Provisional Government of National Restoration." wouldn't be posting about it on Blogspot.

In any case, a lot of online folks assume that real world stuff happens in Internet time. Movement can take decades to spin up to full strength and to get power

While now organization can be faster, for example the Soldiers of Odin went from a few Finns to multinational in a few weeks but actual political power can take a lot longer.

Also and can happen unseen, covered up and censored, for example, the massive German arson spree against refugee centers is basically never reported for example.

Anonymous Rhetoric Man May 21, 2016 8:30 PM  

Wow, Praetorean, you can copy and paste. The first point that went right over your head is that Congress is able to dictate the terms of naturalized citizenship. The second point is that white people were responsible for those changes. Looks like there is rule of law in this particular circumstance.

“Would not Americans who are "concerned about Western civilization" be more inclined to actively resist, rather than participate in, a nationalistic "ethnic cleansing" of those without Anglo Saxon heritage?”



I welcome that active resistance. Just really waiting for it to actually appear in its fullest force.

“Only the historically ignorant such as Rhetoric Man think this country was founded by immigrants.”



America was founded by immigrants, who colonized and conquered. If you want to delude yourself otherwise, more power to you.

“Movement can take decades to spin up to full strength and to get power...”



Indeed, decades.

Blogger No Thank you May 21, 2016 9:17 PM  

Re 858. Do u ever consider that maybe there is an innocent Jewish 15 year old somewhere that may come across that kind of rhetoric and internalize it and get messes up it. I think I should. And also I think you should choose your words carefully and be less offensive if u feel u have a legit point


I do not care if they are hurt or offend, they do not care if their group causes America to be destroyed because of their actions.

Blogger IreneAthena May 21, 2016 9:27 PM  

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Blogger IreneAthena May 21, 2016 9:31 PM  

@135 Rhetoric Man wrote:
I welcome that active resistance [to ethnic cleansing of those with non Anglo Saxon heritage]. Just really waiting for it to actually appear in its fullest force.


The pen is mightier than the sword, or so they say. Keep fighting the good fight. But keep your powder dry, if that is the way the Lord is leading.

Blogger dc.sunsets May 21, 2016 9:35 PM  

@ Rhetoric Man, I don't give a shirt what you think. I'm not trying to convince you or anyone else. I'm stating it as I see it, and the future will play out as it does.

Anonymous Harsh May 21, 2016 9:54 PM  

Rhetoric Man wrote:Wow, “Only the historically ignorant such as Rhetoric Man think this country was founded by immigrants.”



America was founded by immigrants, who colonized and conquered. If you want to delude yourself otherwise, more power to you.


Simply repeating a bald assertion is no argument. You Gammas amuse me with your inept reasoning and posturing. Go away, boy. You're outmatched here.

Blogger M Cephas May 21, 2016 10:56 PM  

@Rhetoric Man

Immigration is a legal term. America was not founded by immigrants. It was founded by pioneers and settlers.

Blogger praetorian May 21, 2016 11:38 PM  

Notice anything about that law?

Why do you keep responding?

Anonymous Rhetoric Man May 21, 2016 11:48 PM  

“You Gammas amuse me with your inept reasoning and posturing. Go away, boy. You're outmatched here.”

Gamma is a mere catchphrase for societal elitists. It only means something substantial to you. Seriously, grow up.

“Immigration is a legal term. America was not founded by immigrants. It was founded by pioneers and settlers.”



[Sigh] Pioneers and settlers are immigrants, or people who come to live permanently in a foreign country.

“But keep your powder dry, if that is the way the Lord is leading.”



The Lord has nothing to do with it.

Anonymous andon May 22, 2016 12:00 AM  

@ #143

"[Sigh] Pioneers and settlers are immigrants, or people who come to live permanently in a foreign country"

nah, "immigrants" are pussies who come after the hard work of building a nation is done.

Blogger IreneAthena May 22, 2016 12:36 AM  

@143 Rhetoric Man: "The Lord has nothing to do with it." What do you mean by that? The Lord has nothing to do with leading people to keep their powder dry? The Lord would prefer that we not keep powder at all, dry or otherwise? The Lord has nothing to do with anything?

Terms like "Reconquista 2.0" and "weird spiritual stuff" and "a good Christian who is not stupid" and "Anglo Saxon Christianity" appear with some frequency here. Key actors in this Immigration Drama are invoking his name, and are powerfully motivated by Who they think "the Lord" is, and What they think "the Lord" wants. Pursuit of clarity on the exact nature of this motivation seems to be in order, at some point.

Blogger IreneAthena May 22, 2016 12:47 AM  

@145 continued, and finished. Perhaps, Rhetoric Man, you meant that your personal powder-keeping decisions have nothing to do with "the Lord." That's not true for many who are talking to you, though.

Anonymous A.B. Prosper May 22, 2016 2:31 AM  

The Other Robot wrote:A respected violence researcher has declared that the Cologne sex attacks show German men have forgotten how to fight, and it’s a good thing.

The respected violence researcher is a respected moron . Germans are trying to avoid yet another bloodbath or another totalitarian state and are pushing with more than some success political solutions. They may even get rid of Merkel and her policies quite soon.

Beyond that there is the ultra peaceful solution of arson seems to be pretty popular, several a week. How many of these are set by Germans and how many by foreign scum is unknown but the net effect is lots of action, more than much of the west.

Its safer, less likely to result in being made an example of and works better than brawling in the streets of having a civil war and/or an American invasion

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus May 22, 2016 8:26 AM  

@145 Pursuit of clarity on the exact nature of this motivation seems to be in order, at some point.

Then they should start appealing to what His Word actually says, rather than their own opinions.

In Genesis 11, God separated the sons of men according to language specifically because they were trying to create a one-world government. God smashed that attempt most eloquently.

God separated the sons of man according to their boundaries (Deut. 32:8), and He raises up nations, moves their boundaries around, etc. as He chooses (Acts 17:26), and He did so specifically so that man would not try to join himself together again, but would seek God instead (Acts 17:27). What all of this means is that God clearly and unambiguously created nationalism, the division of humans into distinct nations with their own cultures, traditions, etc. (ethnos, goyiim).

Large scale immigration - whether legal or illegal does not matter - is an assault on that ordinance, and is therefore satanic in origin.

Anonymous Cheddarman May 22, 2016 8:35 AM  

Rhetoric man wants to get pounded in the butt by the brown skinned third world invasion.

Anonymous Rhetoric Man May 22, 2016 11:34 AM  

“Key actors in this Immigration Drama are invoking his name, and are powerfully motivated by Who they think "the Lord" is, and What they think "the Lord" wants.”



Exactly, what who and what they think. As I stated, the Lord has nothing to do with it.

“nah, "immigrants" are pussies who come after the hard work of building a nation is done.”



That would mean hundreds of millions of people throughout the world who have ever emigrated would fit your description, including your ancestors. That makes no sense.

You’re not THAT stupid.

“Rhetoric man wants to get pounded in the butt by the brown skinned third world invasion.”

Alinsky inspired statement. I see you're doing some heavy reading rather than your standard Archie comic books.

“Then they should start appealing to what His Word actually says, rather than their own opinions.”


His Word is generally interpreted in a number of different ways.

“What all of this means is that God clearly and unambiguously created nationalism, the division of humans into distinct nations with their own cultures, traditions, etc. (ethnos, goyiim).”



America is a distinct nation, one with many nationalities, one that also affords people the liberty to believe or not believe in a particular faith. Your argument only holds water with those who believe in your interpretation of the good book.

“Large scale immigration - whether legal or illegal does not matter - is an assault on that ordinance, and is therefore satanic in origin.”



If you want to make that assertion, then best be prepared to directly attack those Europeans who immigrated throughout the world. Using your logic, Americans are direct descendants of the Devil.

Anonymous mature-Craig May 22, 2016 1:26 PM  

@118, yeah its not the paramount issue,

as anoherside issue, th way I understand it is that Englis men came to this country in 1583, 1607, and 1620. THe 1620 group that arrived at Plymouth ROck were known as Puritans who wereseeking to purify the Anglican Church

Anonymous Eric the Red May 22, 2016 8:47 PM  

Rhetoric Man...

You're smart, but not that smart.

1) You persist in eliding over the truth that immigrants from cultures compatible with the primary host culture, are far less destructive because they are far easier to integrate than those from other cultures. Regarding the original US nation-state, incompatible immigrant cultures include mohammedan, hispanic, and african at the top end of the incompatible scale.

2) You refuse to acknowledge that the quantity of immigrants, regardless of their originating cultures, can totally overwhelm the ability of the host culture to assimilate the immigrants. Beyond a certain amount, that quantity amounts to invasion.

On second thought, you're simply a typical leftist pr*!ck, who is being deliberately disingenuous.

Anonymous Andon May 22, 2016 8:48 PM  

"That would mean hundreds of millions of people throughout the world who have ever emigrated would fit your description, including your ancestors. That makes no sense."

nah, you're just to dim to know the difference.

Blogger M Cephas May 23, 2016 1:19 AM  

@Rhetoric Man

It doesn't matter if you put a "sigh" before your sentence. Pioneers and settlers are NOT immigrants.

Blogger Aeoli Pera May 23, 2016 6:02 AM  

Okay, it took some sleeping and some thinking, but I think I'm ready to try explaining. Will contact those who offered plus Beau. I'll try to keep it concise to avoid wasting your time.

Anonymous Rhetoric Man May 23, 2016 9:30 AM  

“You persist in eliding over the truth that immigrants from cultures compatible with the primary host culture, are far less destructive because they are far easier to integrate than those from other cultures.”

Depends upon how one views “compatibility” and defines “less destructive”.

“Regarding the original US nation-state, incompatible immigrant cultures include mohammedan, hispanic, and african at the top end of the incompatible scale.”



To YOU those groups are incompatible. Perhaps the Europeans should have thought better than to bring in tens of thousands of African slaves who were also Muslim. Perhaps the Europeans should have thought better than blending in with the natives of Central and South America.

“You refuse to acknowledge that the quantity of immigrants, regardless of their originating cultures, can totally overwhelm the ability of the host culture to assimilate the immigrants.

Please show me directly where I “refuse to acknowledge” this point.

“Beyond a certain amount, that quantity amounts to invasion.”


Tell that to my tribe, the Winnebago. Feel free to go home.

“On second thought, you're simply a typical leftist pr*!ck, who is being deliberately disingenuous.”

Another Alinsky tactic. There had to be a recent spinning bee. Did you bring the tea there?

“nah, you're just to dim to know the difference.”



Why don’t you try to explain it?

“It doesn't matter if you put a "sigh" before your sentence. Pioneers and settlers are NOT immigrants.”

You can stammer your feet like a little girl, but the fact remains that pioneers and settlers are immigrants. Pioneers and settlers originated from X and landed in Y. They are new to the land. They desire to settle here and create something.

Blogger Aeoli Pera May 24, 2016 4:17 PM  

Aeoli Pera wrote:Okay, it took some sleeping and some thinking, but I think I'm ready to try explaining. Will contact those who offered plus Beau. I'll try to keep it concise to avoid wasting your time.

On second thought, it turns out to be too weird even for this crowd. Thank you for the kind offers and resources but I'll be keeping my own counsel on this.

Blogger Aeoli Pera May 24, 2016 8:26 PM  

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