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Monday, June 13, 2016

4GW in Orlando

Glenn Reynolds contemplates the Orlando shootings and gives a shout out to William S. Lind in USA Today:
In the wake of the Orlando shootings, people are trotting out the usual post-massacre talking points about gun control, terrorism, etc. But the solutions aren’t so easy. Gun control is much stricter in Europe, but that hasn’t stopped mass shootings like the ones at Charlie Hebdo’s offices or at the Bataclan concert hall. (It’s also very strict in California, but that didn’t stop the shootings at San Bernardino.) Talking about gun control is mostly a way of avoiding a tough problem.

Donald Trump, meanwhile, was quick to tweet out that this vindicates his positions: “Appreciate the congrats for being right on radical Islamic terrorism, I don't want congrats, I want toughness & vigilance. We must be smart!” But Trump’s proposal of a temporary moratorium on immigration of Muslims to America wouldn’t have prevented shooter Omar Mateen’s actions. Mateen wasn’t a recent immigrant but a  U.S. citizen born of Afghan parents, and he pledged allegiance to the Islamic State terrorist group, according to a Department of Homeland Security report cited by Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif.

The thing is, proposals such as gun control are basically peacetime remedies, which don’t apply in time of war. But traditional wartime remedies might not work, either, because this is not a traditional war.

Instead, what we are facing is what William S. Lind calls “fourth-generation warfare.” Or maybe it’s even fifth-generation warfare: We’re not fighting armies. We’re not fighting guerrillas. We’re not even fighting traditional terrorists. Instead, we’re fighting an opponent who turns apparently law-abiding citizens (Mateen was licensed as a security guard and thus had passed background checks) into killers without anyone noticing. They’re not actually “lone wolf” terrorists; they’re more like human drones, attacking distant targets on command without warning.
While I disagree with Reynolds on the root of the problem - the problem is Islam's physical presence in the West, not merely addressing "the jihadist strain of Islam" - it's good to see him bringing a more sophisticated modern take on warfare into the public discourse. There is simply no way a conventional military approach, much less a conventional police approach, is going to suffice to address the challenge being posed by the third great wave of Islamic expansion.

It will take time for people to realize that this is an existential crisis for the West, as existential crises are, by their nature, much larger in scope than the average person can readily comprehend.

But, as those who have read the 4GW Handbook know, the answer to 4GW is either a) eliminating the fish by draining the sea, or b) more effective 4GW utilizing a better light infantry. It will be several years before either option will be on the table, but the sooner they enter into the conversation, the better.

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97 Comments:

Blogger LonestarWhacko June 13, 2016 11:36 AM  

Reynolds is a Law Professor. He's bound up in legal remedies to this situation. One wonders if the Gay contingent will fight back....my take on the situation lies in the r/k scenario. There's hope for those who will fight.

Blogger residentMoron June 13, 2016 11:41 AM  

"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, ..."

Hmmm.

Anonymous 11B June 13, 2016 11:43 AM  

"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, ..."

Do you understand what 'well regulated' means?

Blogger Rabbi B June 13, 2016 11:45 AM  

No matter how much people try to ignore it, everything in the world seems to be boiling down to a religious question. ‪#‎Orlando‬, ‪#‎SanBernardino,‬ etc.

Blogger Alexander June 13, 2016 11:45 AM  

Better Light Infantry... Drain the "fish"...

To quote the Old El Paso girl, "Why not both?"

Blogger residentMoron June 13, 2016 11:45 AM  

In the context in which it was written? Well enough I think.

What did you think I meant by quoting it?

Blogger justaguy June 13, 2016 11:48 AM  

No one in the club was armed?

Blogger Earl June 13, 2016 11:48 AM  

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Blogger Earl June 13, 2016 11:49 AM  

Snappy uniforms?

Blogger Earl June 13, 2016 11:51 AM  

It was 100% liberal Democrat night at the club. Conservatives were at home with their families, and big gay Steve was home going over his bug out kit one more time.

Anonymous Elijah Rhodes June 13, 2016 11:54 AM  

The solution doesn't seem that complex to me... although implementing it would require men of great resolve (good luck on that):

- Put a moratorium on all immigration.
- Repeal the 1965 Immigration Act
- Secure the border
- Repeal anchor baby laws.
- Repatriate all refugees.
- Cancel and deny ALL visas (travel, student, work) from ALL middle eastern countries.
- Freeze all business and financial transactions in the U.S. from middle east
- Shut down all Mosques and freeze all assets associated with them.
- Make hiring an illegal a felony resulting in the loss of ones business.
- Deny all public services unless the recipient can prove legal status.
- Make providing any private service (education, for example) to an illegal a felony.

See, that wasn't that hard.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 13, 2016 11:56 AM  

Since the militia consists of everybody able to bear arms, it obviously means that rather than regulating guns, we must regulate men, especially freeborn White citizens.

Good and hard.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 13, 2016 11:57 AM  

Elijah Rhodes wrote:- Make providing any private service (education, for example) to an illegal a felony.

Sorry, one step too far.
You're demanding that every business document their customers.

Anonymous mature-Craig June 13, 2016 11:59 AM  

I've never read the Koran, one time I picked it up at a book store but I felt this presence and vibe that I didn't like and I put it away, and I moved away from it

Anonymous ZhukovG June 13, 2016 12:00 PM  

Papieren bitte?

Blogger CM June 13, 2016 12:00 PM  

killers without anyone noticing

The reason people don't notice is because we aren't allowed to. Same thing as San Bernardino.

Blogger Natalie June 13, 2016 12:04 PM  

Apparently a lot of people noticed he was off his nut, but were ignored because it's islamophobia to say a raghead might be dangerous.

Anonymous Bukulu June 13, 2016 12:05 PM  

Composing a list of several hard-to-accomplish endeavors is not hard, sure.

Actually doing them... ... ....

Not to mention that some of them aren't even desirable: "Deny all public services unless the recipient can prove legal status" just means "Ihre Paperien, bitte!"

Anonymous Elijah Rhodes June 13, 2016 12:05 PM  

Sorry, one step too far.

Probably so. I was mostly thinking education. The Yale graduate lauded as an illegal comes to mind. Demanding the schools vet their students doesn't seem unreasonable.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 13, 2016 12:09 PM  

Elijah Rhodes wrote:Demanding the schools vet their students doesn't seem unreasonable.
Easier: Make it a requirement of receipt of federal funds that any school that become aware of a student's illegal status must report same to ICE.
You don't have to play, but then we don't either.

Another plank that must be added.
-No federal money to any city or municipality that refuses to notify ICE when they arrest an illegal invader.

Anonymous Noah Nehm June 13, 2016 12:10 PM  

@11: Add to the list: Investigate all multiple or illegal Social Security Numbers, and publicly prosecute the holders thereof.

Blogger VFM 3412 June 13, 2016 12:10 PM  

I hear a news report this AM stating there was an armed officer in the club who was working security. They also stated he engaged the shooter. I have not heard this from any other sources yet. Implication is he lost the gun battle but would explain the multiple shooter scenarios.

Blogger Gaiseric June 13, 2016 12:10 PM  

justaguy wrote:No one in the club was armed?
No. Gun free zone, by law. All places that serve alcohol in FL are.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan June 13, 2016 12:11 PM  

How legitimate are the likes of Liz Warren to a Muslim man?

Anonymous andon June 13, 2016 12:15 PM  

10. Blogger Earl June 13, 2016 11:51 AM
It was 100% liberal Democrat night at the club. Conservatives were at home with their families, and big gay Steve was home going over his bug out kit one more time.


yeah but where was Big Gay Al?

Blogger freedom June 13, 2016 12:21 PM  

Well trained. Not regulated in the modern sense, but to be made regular.

Blogger Chris Mallory June 13, 2016 12:31 PM  

@21 All the reports I have seen said the moonlighting cop was in the parking lot and engaged Omar when he came outside. He had two on duty cops helping him. I would imagine he heard the first shots, put in a call on his radio and the two on patrol showed up as Omar was coming out. Omar then went back inside.

Anonymous Broken Arrow June 13, 2016 12:33 PM  

4GW is going to bring a return to tribalism regardless of what anyone says or does. Societies will have to be predominantly homogeneous for the sake of survival if nothing else.

Blogger Chris Mallory June 13, 2016 12:33 PM  

@21 All the reports I have seen said the moonlighting cop was in the parking lot and engaged Omar when he came outside. He had two on duty cops helping him. I would imagine he heard the first shots, put in a call on his radio and the two on patrol showed up as Omar was coming out. Omar then went back inside.

Blogger Bob Wallace June 13, 2016 12:37 PM  

"Do you understand what 'well regulated' means?"

It means "well-practiced" or "well-drilled."

Anonymous andon June 13, 2016 12:38 PM  

Noah Nehm June 13, 2016 12:10 PM
@11: Add to the list: Investigate all multiple or illegal Social Security Numbers, and publicly prosecute the holders thereof.


would be better to prosecute those who allow it to happen. its not an accident that this goes on

Blogger VFM 3412 June 13, 2016 12:43 PM  

That makes more sense that the moonlighting cop was outside. Also explains why he left and came back in other reports.

Blogger Escoffier June 13, 2016 12:43 PM  

Elijah I may have missed it but did your list include 'remove all Muslims?'

Cuz if not the rest seem like a waste of time.

Anonymous fop June 13, 2016 12:46 PM  

House of Saud is a cancer.

Anonymous andon June 13, 2016 12:47 PM  

VFM 3412 June 13, 2016 12:43 PM
That makes more sense that the moonlighting cop was outside. Also explains why he left and came back in other reports.


probly visiting the donut shop

Blogger residentMoron June 13, 2016 12:51 PM  

That is alomy understanding, Bob.

My original comment drew attention to the pervasive use of arms by citizens engendered/encouraged by the second amendment, and the phrase in the OP; "4GW utilizing a better light infantry".

Well, intended to. You see where it went.

Blogger residentMoron June 13, 2016 12:53 PM  

erk. "also my"

I was also thinking Heinlein;

"A well armed society is a polite society"

Anonymous Jim Scrummy June 13, 2016 12:58 PM  

Just ordered 4GW Handbook in paperback. Had been on my to do list. Early Father's Day Gift for me.

Anonymous GreyS June 13, 2016 1:11 PM  

But Trump’s proposal of a temporary moratorium on immigration of Muslims to America wouldn’t have prevented shooter Omar Mateen’s actions

Shortsighted. Importing Muslims will bring in a % of radical types (or those who will turn radical) no matter what you do. Those will then affect or team up with the US citizen muslims who are already here.

Think of it as soccer or rugby. If there only a handful of rugby players in an area then those guys can only wish they could play-- while watching videos of rugby players around the world. But import enough families with a rugby background and pretty soon there will be a rugby league in your hometown. Stopping the import of ANY muslims will lessen the chances of future attacks.

Anonymous e.r. June 13, 2016 1:14 PM  

"a) eliminating the fish by draining the sea, or b) more effective 4GW utilizing a better light infantry. "

There might be a third option... formally recognize Islam as another nation and do reverse dhimmitude.

When islam spread across the indian ocean and set up colonies (thailand, indonesia, india, etc..) muslim communities set up formal contracts with the local sovereignty. The sovereign would decide how much sharia was allowed.

Germany suggested this a few weeks ago... take control of islam and make its own brand of islam.taking political control of islam will work, but taking belief control and attempting to edit its dogma wont work. leave the dogma alone but stipulate they cant enforce or attempt to impose their own rules on the rest of society.

Basically "Fine you can have ur inheritance laws, marital laws etc.. but u can not have the death sentence laws for things we dont agree with on our soil. Anyone worthy of death according to your rules will be excommunicated into out western society etc..."

Muslims will be taxed differently and governed separately. Any contradictions in laws means the native law will be supreme.

The adage good fences make good neighbors isn't just literal. its also abstract.. u have to create fences socially and legally.

Blogger Josh June 13, 2016 1:14 PM  

From Damon Linker:

Honesty requires that we face facts, no matter how demoralizing those facts may be. And the singular fact of our historical moment is that the Greater Middle East is in the midst of a massive, civilizational convulsion. This convulsion is marked by intense instability and violence. The violence takes the form of both conventional and asymmetrical warfare — and the latter, in the form of jihadism, radiates outward, periodically striking the West and other regions of the world.

Anonymous Athor Pel June 13, 2016 1:17 PM  

"GreyS June 13, 2016 1:11 PM
...
Think of it as soccer or rugby. If there only a handful of rugby players in an area then those guys can only wish they could play-- while watching videos of rugby players around the world. But import enough families with a rugby background and pretty soon there will be a rugby league in your hometown. Stopping the import of ANY muslims will lessen the chances of future attacks.
."


I dub thee The Rugby Club Theory.

I may make funny but the theory is spot on.

Anonymous BGKB June 13, 2016 1:22 PM  

Easier: Make it a requirement of receipt of federal funds that any school that become aware of a student's illegal status must report same to ICE.

Easier if an illegal squats out an anchor baby, don't let them take it home, we take kids away from bad parents all the time. If magic dirt is to have any hope the kid needs to be away from the dirty wetbacks.

yeah but where was Big Gay Al? Actually there is a big gay Al's gun blog from Michigan http://mygunblog.blogspot.com/

It was 100% liberal Democrat night at the club... big gay Steve was home going over his bug out kit

Cubans run conservative and fleeing die verse city for Whitopia means bugging in.

Elijah I may have missed it but did your list include 'remove all Muslims?'

No need to remove them, just moving them 6 feet down with some bacon bits will be good enough.

Blogger James Dixon June 13, 2016 1:24 PM  

> But Trump’s proposal of a temporary moratorium on immigration of Muslims to America wouldn’t have prevented shooter Omar Mateen’s actions.

No, because we let his parents in. So let's start keeping the parents out. No parents, no jihadi children.

Anonymous unadorned June 13, 2016 1:28 PM  

"But Trump’s proposal of a temporary moratorium on immigration of Muslims to America wouldn’t have prevented shooter Omar Mateen’s actions. Mateen wasn’t a recent immigrant but a U.S. citizen born of Afghan parents,..."


So what? Those are liberal talking points. The fools in the MSM constantly tell us that stopping immigration won't do any good anytime the killer was born in the US. You know, he's a home-grown terrorist; as if somehow the evil US made him into a killer. I thought the US had Magic Dirt. It doesn't change the fact one single iota that we need to stop immigration of all Muslims, all Hispanics, and deport any of them who commit any crime. What possible reason is there to say that a moratorium on immigration would not prevent the killer kids of Muslim parents. What should be said is we are so sorry we imported these Muslims in the first place. We are so sorry we changed our immigration laws in 1965. We have finally learned a hard lesson.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 13, 2016 1:30 PM  

Athor Pel wrote:I dub thee The Rugby Club Theory.

The Cricket Club Theory would be apposite.

Blogger dc.sunsets June 13, 2016 1:49 PM  

Existential crisis indeed. This blog connects the dots for those who have eyes & are willing to accept the data they carry.

Openness to concepts that destroy what you love is the hallmark of vice & collective self-destruction.

Equalism (unwillingness to recognize difference) is the dark heart of Cultural Marxism & Globalism.

One shooting or a dozen, heck...one 9/11 or a dozen of them, all we're talking is symptoms.

The disease is fundamental. It exhibits multiple syndromes but all emanate from the same poisonous, reality-rejecting delusions. The societies of the West are manifestly ill, and only the Remnant of individuals who remain devoted to Western Civilization can keep it alive in this time of crisis.

We will. As long as our families last, we will.

Blogger dc.sunsets June 13, 2016 1:50 PM  

Trump's moratorium could well prevent another massacre in 25 years...or two days.

Anonymous Credo in Unum Deum June 13, 2016 1:52 PM  

...the problem is Islam's physical presence in the West, not merely addressing "the jihadist strain of Islam"

I disagree with that. The problem is islam itself. 100 years ago you could isolate it and contain it, today, you can't.

Anonymous andon June 13, 2016 1:54 PM  

Josh June 13, 2016 1:14 PM
From Damon Linker:

Honesty requires that we face facts, no matter how demoralizing those facts may be. And the singular fact of our historical moment is that the Greater Middle East is in the midst of a massive, civilizational convulsion. This convulsion is marked by intense instability and violence. The violence takes the form of both conventional and asymmetrical warfare — and the latter, in the form of jihadism, radiates outward, periodically striking the West and other regions of the world.


all of this was driven by the current occupant. the Middle East was comparatively stable until 6-7 years ago.

Blogger James Dixon June 13, 2016 1:56 PM  

> 100 years ago you could isolate it and contain it, today, you can't.

Why can't you?

Blogger James Dixon June 13, 2016 1:58 PM  

> ...the Middle East was comparatively stable until 6-7 years ago.

Comparatively covers a lot of ground, so I have to grant the point. But the Middle East hasn't been all that stable within living memory.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan June 13, 2016 2:10 PM  

Easy, Obama calls for freedom of conscious for Muslims divide them and kill the hard liners as they pop up

Blogger JaimeInTexas June 13, 2016 2:12 PM  

It means "in good working order" or "works properly"

Blogger residentMoron June 13, 2016 2:14 PM  

The hard liners are key components of US foreign policy, and have been since WW2.

Obama is a symptom, not a cause.

Anonymous andon June 13, 2016 2:19 PM  

James Dixon June 13, 2016 1:58 PM
> ...the Middle East was comparatively stable until 6-7 years ago.

Comparatively covers a lot of ground, so I have to grant the point. But the Middle East hasn't been all that stable within living memory.


Egypt was an ally and got along reasonably well with Israel. Syria wasn't on fire. Khaddafi was minding his manners. Iraq given away. Iran gets a big payout and further along in developing nukes. the whole of the middle east and north africa now being used as a weapon against Europe. its a disaster.

Anonymous map June 13, 2016 2:30 PM  

What exactly is wrong with deporting them all? There is nothing wrong with Islamic countries. There is nothing wrong with being a Muslim. Therefore, there is nothing wrong with being a Muslim in an Islamic country. We are just sending them back where they can experience the full flowering of their religion and culture.

Being born here or even naturalized means nothing. This entire family has proven treasonous and subversive. Their paperwork means nothing. Besides, you are sending them back to the country where there is nothing wrong going on anyway.

Blogger Roger G2 June 13, 2016 2:35 PM  

Here hear! That says it all.

Anonymous redsash June 13, 2016 2:38 PM  

So much easier to remove 3 million moslems from America than to remove 300 million firearms.

With Mateen's license he might have had a fully automatic 5.56mm.

Very simple solutions to this shit:
Stop importing moslems.
Deport ALL moslems in America.
Built the WALL, lethal electric fences where possible, minefields where possible.
Operation Wetback II.
Finally, and the most important, the initial causation of this planned destruction of White Anglo-Saxon Christian society is the total elimination of Rothschild Zionism from this land and their democrat, rino, and cuckservative lackeys. This might require Civil War II, or a few key takeouts and our enemies might get the message. The message, in the name of God leave. For our posterity it will be worth the effort. The White Christian MAN refuses to be ruled by four jews and four catholics on a court and a muslim president or a bisexual woman whose first love is money and power.

Blogger bob k. mando June 13, 2016 2:39 PM  

16. Natalie June 13, 2016 12:04 PM
Apparently a lot of people noticed he was off his nut, but were ignored because it's islamophobia to say a raghead might be dangerous.



it's being reported that his classmates remember him hopping up and down with glee on Sept 11, 2001.

nothing to see here folks, this is another one of those nonexistent Muslims not dancing in the street that Donald Trump never observed.

ps - his parents are immigrants. Afghani immigrants.

whatever their current status, i recommend that they be stripped of all Privileges and Rights of US Citizenship and be expelled from the country.

Blogger Josh June 13, 2016 2:50 PM  

all of this was driven by the current occupant. the Middle East was comparatively stable until 6-7 years ago.

You're an idiot

Blogger rumpole5 June 13, 2016 2:52 PM  

I authored a senior paper on Guerrilla warfare in my senior year of college. Your allusion to Mao 's " fish in the sea" brings back memories. However, given the site of the most recent outrage, I think that a better illustration would be python snakes in the swamp. It's time for a hunt!

Blogger rumpole5 June 13, 2016 2:57 PM  

They are budding these "refugees" all over the USA. Set up for an Islamic Tet offensive?

Blogger justaguy June 13, 2016 3:07 PM  

My question on no one being armed was rhetorical and implied another solution to the 4GW problem-- something different than light infantry-- an armed citizenship.

Blogger James Dixon June 13, 2016 3:29 PM  

> I think that a better illustration would be python snakes in the swamp. It's time for a hunt!

With apologies to the original: When you're knee deep in Muslims it's hard to remember that the original goal was to pacify the Middle East. :)

Anonymous andon June 13, 2016 3:54 PM  

Josh June 13, 2016 2:50 PM
all of this was driven by the current occupant. the Middle East was comparatively stable until 6-7 years ago.

You're an idiot


yes, I think you said that before. is it your "go to" insult

notice I said comparatively to how it is now, not relatively to any other region.

Blogger Cail Corishev June 13, 2016 4:04 PM  

But Trump’s proposal of a temporary moratorium on immigration of Muslims to America wouldn’t have prevented shooter Omar Mateen’s actions.

Statements like this are meant to cause despair and inaction. "Policy X wouldn't have fixed this, so we might as well do nothing." If they fail, though, they lead to people searching for policies that would work.

I sure hope leftists keep saying this one, because it just drives home the fact that we should have been listening to people like Trump years ago, and that we'll now need to do more than even Trump is calling for, not stopping at a mere moratorium. They'll start wondering what it would take to get rid of this guy's parents, and is deportation really as hard as the elites keep saying?

Trump Derangement Syndrome for the win again.

Blogger Alexander June 13, 2016 4:09 PM  

How much longer do we have to endure elevating Muslims leftist-style before we can elevate Muslims Tepes-style?

Blogger John Williams June 13, 2016 4:12 PM  

the Middle East was comparatively stable until 6-7 years ago.
Years of war with Iran & Iraq, Lebanon destroyed by civil war, constant pressure on Isreal, constant friction & agitation by all the little players, Gadaffi was trouble till killed, Syria, etc. What flavor cool aid defines that as stable?

Blogger John Williams June 13, 2016 4:27 PM  

You're an idiot
Gadaffi, Lebanon's civil war, Iran/Iraq war, Syria, Beka Valley, etc.
It's an apt statement to one who thinks the Middle East has been stable.

Anonymous andon June 13, 2016 4:31 PM  

John Williams June 13, 2016 4:12 PM
the Middle East was comparatively stable until 6-7 years ago.
Years of war with Iran & Iraq, Lebanon destroyed by civil war, constant pressure on Isreal, constant friction & agitation by all the little players, Gadaffi was trouble till killed, Syria, etc. What flavor cool aid defines that as stable?


stable as compared to now.

Ghaddafi turned over his chemical weapons and was becoming more reasonable. Has the pressure on Israel decreased or increased in the last 2 terms? Who was behind the Arab Spring? Who was behind Ukraine? Syria? Who alienated the Egyptians by threatening them that they had better reinstate the kook mooslim brthhd or else lose their $2 billion in aid? Who is behind the "migrant" invasion of Europe? Who is flying in mooslims by the planeload? Who has effectively dissolved the southern border?

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 13, 2016 4:33 PM  

The Middle East has been a cesspit of backstabbing, betrayal, divided loyalties, treason and murder since at least Roman times.
The Mid East has been an unstable chaotic mess since the fall of the Ottoman Empire in WWI.

Churchill had to gas the Syrians and Arabs.

Blogger Josh June 13, 2016 4:41 PM  

yes, I think you said that before. is it your "go to" insult

notice I said comparatively to how it is now, not relatively to any other region.


And you're still wrong. It hasn't been stable since Bush invaded Iraq.

Anonymous mature-Craig June 13, 2016 5:00 PM  

ya know the more I think about it, immigration is a big issue that has to be addressed, I cant believe some of the things I am hearing

Anonymous andon June 13, 2016 5:28 PM  

@ mature Craig - you're joking, right?

this just occurs to you now?

Anonymous Brick Hardslab June 13, 2016 5:29 PM  

Drain the sea and kill the sharks. So first step, drain the sea.

Anonymous mature-Craig June 13, 2016 7:05 PM  

I've heard people talking about it, but it recently began to hit me, some of the things the leadership in this country does and allows is absolutely insane

Blogger Bob Loblaw June 13, 2016 7:12 PM  

Apparently a lot of people noticed he was off his nut, but were ignored because it's islamophobia to say a raghead might be dangerous.

This should be the headline. Just like San Bernardino and Ft. Hood, people this guy worked with knew he was dangerous but nothing was done for fear of the social fallout. In this particular case, the coworkers did say something but were ignored by management.

Blogger Josh June 13, 2016 8:01 PM  

Y'all Craig is quick on the uptake

Anonymous Big Bill June 13, 2016 8:05 PM  

"I disagree with Reynolds on the root of the problem - the problem is Islam's physical presence in the West, not merely addressing "the jihadist strain of Islam""

Glenn is a cuck weathervane.

He wants to put some distance between himself and e.g. the neocon lawyer boys from Powerline.

He realizes how stupid his ca. 2003 neocon War Against Terror boosterism was.

They are loosening his leash a bit, but he's still afraid to take off running for fear they will jerk on his choke chain.

So he smothers everything in snark to give himself plausible deniability if challenged.

Blogger Cail Corishev June 13, 2016 8:30 PM  

Apparently a lot of people noticed he was off his nut, but were ignored because it's islamophobia to say a raghead might be dangerous.

And the officials who kept looking at this guy and deciding he wasn't a danger worth doing anything about are the same bunch who insist they need access to anyone's phone on command so they can keep us safe from terrorists.

OpenID simplytimothy June 13, 2016 8:31 PM  

William S.Lind to you, to your comment section, to the link in your right sidebar to Instapundit's comment section , To Glenn's eye and brain and to USA Today, to America and the World.

Blogosphere baby. Let Freedom Ring.







Blogger James Dixon June 13, 2016 9:20 PM  

> And you're still wrong. It hasn't been stable since Bush invaded Iraq.

I'd say since the Iranian revolution. And arguments can be made about even before then.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 13, 2016 9:25 PM  

Does anyone remember the Lebanese civil war of the 1980s. the 1971 Arab-Israeli war, the 1977 Iranian revolution? the 1968 Arab-Israeli war? Nasser's Egyptian civil war? the Algerian War? The revolt of the Young Turks?

The ME is sort of a byword for political instability, the same way the Balkans are a byword for insanely bloody & vindictive tribal wars.

Blogger Aeoli Pera June 13, 2016 9:54 PM  

In the wake of the Orlando shootings, people are trotting out the usual post-massacre talking points about gun control, terrorism, etc. But the solutions aren’t so easy.

Spot the incorrect assumption!

Blogger Aeoli Pera June 13, 2016 9:58 PM  

Or maybe it’s even fifth-generation warfare

Can't into words.

Who is this retard and why is he being paid to write?

Blogger Aeoli Pera June 13, 2016 10:01 PM  

But, as those who have read the 4GW Handbook know, the answer to 4GW is either a) eliminating the fish by draining the sea, or b) more effective 4GW utilizing a better light infantry.

I suspect the enemy strategy in play here is to create the conditions for applying the former.

Blogger Were-Puppy June 14, 2016 12:53 AM  

@74 Bob Loblaw
Apparently a lot of people noticed he was off his nut, but were ignored because it's islamophobia to say a raghead might be dangerous.

This should be the headline. Just like San Bernardino and Ft. Hood, people this guy worked with knew he was dangerous but nothing was done for fear of the social fallout. In this particular case, the coworkers did say something but were ignored by management.
---

The whole "see something, say something" means that if you report someone, it is you who will be charged with islamophobia, racism, blah blah blah.

It's better if someone sees something going on, go ahead and cap that rag beyotch and go into hiding.

Anonymous meh June 14, 2016 1:09 AM  

Ugh. Better than full-blown SJW maybe but still missing the point:

Donald Trump, meanwhile, was quick to tweet out that this vindicates his positions: “Appreciate the congrats for being right on radical Islamic terrorism, I don't want congrats, I want toughness & vigilance. We must be smart!” But Trump’s proposal of a temporary moratorium on immigration of Muslims to America wouldn’t have prevented shooter Omar Mateen’s actions. Mateen wasn’t a recent immigrant but a U.S. citizen born of Afghan parents, and he pledged allegiance to the Islamic State terrorist group, according to a Department of Homeland Security report cited by Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif.

The fact that the children of Muslim immigrants are more likely to succumb to Sudden Jihadi Syndrome, than their parents are, is an argument for not letting in their parents in the first place, it isn't an argument for doing nothing because they are already here!

And maybe we should try to actually prevent future "native born" Muslim terrorism 20 years down the road by not letting their parents into our country, today? When did we stop thinking about the long term good of our country? Cucks can't into cause and effect.

Also, the continual inflow of Muslims into the West is one cause in further radicalization of Muslims who were born in the West. The new arrivals contain radicals who preach and agitate and cause terrorism in native-born Muslims without having to commit any terror acts themselves. And they form larger and ever larger colonies of Muslims in the West who are simply implanting their culture in our midst and behaving accordingly. Magic Dirt ain't going to work on them, even if it existed, which it does not.

Basically "Trump is wrong because terrorist was native born" is "Magic Dirt Theory" type thinking. It misses the point. Being born here doesn't make you an American. This terrorist wasn't an American in any meaningful sense of the term; it doesn't matter what his passport says. Legal citizenship is not the same thing as having a particular national identity.

This recent event in Orlando isn't just good reason for stopping all future Muslim immigration, but also for deporting the Muslims who are already here. Even if the parents are unobjectionable (and in this case the parents were most definitely not people we want here), the children are going to be a continual and growing problem.

Anonymous Trigger Warning June 14, 2016 8:08 AM  

Just like a "regulated" shotgun - it shoots where ya aims it. The Left likes to excise the language from the 18th Century and translate it into Newspeak.

Blogger Rez Zircon June 14, 2016 3:40 PM  

"But Trump’s proposal of a temporary moratorium on immigration of Muslims to America wouldn’t have prevented shooter Omar Mateen’s actions."

No, but it will prevent new immigrants from breeding another generation of disaffected youths, who will be our next generation of homegrown terrorists.

We've seen the same thing with Mexican immigrants (legal or not): the first generation mostly work hard and cause no trouble. It was the second generation, who see themselves as entitled, who became a big chunk of our urban gang problem.

Blogger EscapeVelocity June 14, 2016 5:16 PM  

It's great to have Reynolds and Milo as mainstream conduits to the Alt Right.

Blogger EscapeVelocity June 14, 2016 5:16 PM  

It's great to have Reynolds and Milo as mainstream conduits to the Alt Right.

Blogger EscapeVelocity June 14, 2016 5:18 PM  

It's great to have Reynolds and Milo as mainstream conduits to the Alt Right.

But the answer is not just banning all Muslim immigration in perpetuity, but repatriating all Muslim immigrants and their offspring back to their homelands.

Then maintain a policy of containment.

Blogger EscapeVelocity June 14, 2016 5:21 PM  

It's great to have Reynolds and Milo as mainstream conduits to the Alt Right.

But the answer is not just banning all Muslim immigration in perpetuity, but repatriating all Muslim immigrants and their offspring back to their homelands.

Then maintain a policy of containment.

Anonymous Rhetoric Man June 16, 2016 9:12 AM  

"But the answer is not just banning all Muslim immigration in perpetuity, but repatriating all Muslim immigrants and their offspring back to their homelands."

How do you propose deporting Muslim-American citizens in light of the law and the Constitution? What is the process involved? How do you physically address likely protests by Muslims and non-Muslims? What are the costs involved?

Anonymous Mr. Rational June 16, 2016 10:58 AM  

Rhetoric Man wrote:How do you propose deporting Muslim-American citizens in light of the law and the Constitution?
When there's a will, there's a way.  Designating them foreign nationals of a power that is waging war on us (specifically, the Umma) allows their wholesale removal.  As Vox said, we will be writing the rules for this.  One of the rules is that the left does not allow us to demand we allow enemies inside our borders.

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