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Tuesday, June 14, 2016

Book of the Week

Free Speech Isn't Free: How 90 Men Stood Up Against The Globalist Establishment -- And Won is a fascinating look behind the scenes of Roosh's notorious speaking tour, which culminated this spring in one of the biggest, most unjustified attempted media lynchings I have ever witnessed. Roosh walks the reader through the entire experience of the tour and its aftermath, from conception to conclusion, in remarkably honest detail. He not only bares his thought processes, he bares his hopes and his fears in a way few writers would dare.

It is well worth reading, not only in its own right, but also to better understand the way in which the media SJWs and the SJW activists operate when they go into seek-and-destroy mode.

As some of you know, I played a very small part in helping Roosh turn the tables on the media lynch mob that was attempting to discredit and destroy him; in the section quoted below, Roosh describes how the unexpected viciousness of the attack journalism affected him, how he reestablished his equilibrium, and how he adroitly forced them to choose between serving as his microphone or backing off him and his family.
There are many battles in the future that I’m sure we will engage in, but one where a small guerilla army walked out on the open battlefield against a large regiment of infantry that had multiple reinforcements simply wasn’t one of them.

I firmly believe that it would have been absolute folly to proceed in such an engagement. While I wouldn’t mind gathering my best men and showing up at one of the locations, I couldn’t send others into the meeting when the local hosts weren’t properly vetted and where they didn’t even know beforehand who else would be attending. It was a recipe for disaster, and based on the events that ended up taking place on Saturday, my fears about members being harmed turned out to be accurate.

At the time the outrage was happening, I happened to be visiting my father’s house in a Washington, D.C. suburb for a short stay before returning back to Eastern Europe. On Thursday, February 4, a news crew with the Daily Mail came to the house while I was sleeping. They failed to hector my stepmom, a gentle Persian woman, into admitting I was there, and camped out in front of the house in the hopes of getting a story.

I went online, wondering how they were able to find my dad’s address so quickly, and noticed a series of messages from the hacking group Anonymous. It turned out that they had doxed the house earlier that morning. I was already under stress due to the media and government pressure, but now my mood turned to near panic.

Up to Thursday, I received over 100 threats, many of them credible. Now all of those deranged and gullible idiots had my father’s address. The threats continued to come in, including one that stated my family’s house would soon be burned to the ground. I figured that people would at least try to “swat” the house by making bogus calls to police saying there was a hostage situation inside, or even worse, come to the house and attempt to harm my family.

The first thing I did was call the local police. I opened the door when they came, not knowing that the Daily Mail had a telephoto lens pointed at the door. After explaining the story, they put a flag on the address against swatting attempts. Besides that, all they could do was advise me to contact the FBI because nearly all the threats were coming in from other jurisdictions. The Daily Mail story went live not long after they left.

Not so cool now! Pro-rape pick-up artist pictured in a sweat-stained T-shirt at the door of his mother's home (where he lives in the BASEMENT!)

This is the man at the center of a worldwide storm after advocating legalizing rape on private property - in a sweat-stained T-shirt at the door of his mother's house.

Daryush 'Roosh' Valizadeh, 36, the self-proclaimed 'King of Masculinity' called police after receiving death threats from around the world and canceled a series of 'tribal meetings' in 45 countries set for this weekend.

Valizadeh, who is at the center of public protests at home and in Canada, Australia and the UK, is on record as advocating women be banned from voting, describing a woman's value as dependent on her 'fertility and beauty', and stating that women with eating disorders make the best girlfriends.


The article was shared over 100,000 times. While I could do without the false claim that I live with my mother, the story confirmed the dox and told the world that I was in fact currently located at the released address, which was shared on a Facebook account controlled by an Anonymous group with over 300,000 subscribers. The dox went viral itself, being viewed over one million times. I had friends from around the world asking me why my family’s address was popping up on their Facebook feed. It may have been the most viewed dox ever.

The situation seemed dire. After the media successfully painted me as a monster who is trying to legalize rape and organize rape mobs in cities around the world, they added a cherry on top by helping publicize my family’s address to people who wanted me dead. The media, whether deliberately or not, had put my family in great danger. I called a security firm and by nightfall there was an armed guard in front of the house. In the subsequent week, they defended the house against multiple news crews, pizza deliveries, and random men claiming to be plumbers or painters, but who suspiciously lacked work equipment.

I was relieved when the Daily Mail published a follow-up story claiming that I hired a “burly security guard,” because I knew it would deter people from coming to the house.

The self-styled 'King of Masculinity' has called in his own private security guard after claiming he had been threatened.

Roosh Valizadeh, who used a blog post - which he later said was satirical - to say that if a woman was on private property she could be legitimately raped, hired the bodyguard as global revulsion over his views grew.

When Daily Mail Online attempted to speak to Valizadeh at his mother's basement where he is in hiding, his guard leaped up and warned our reporter off.

He said: 'I can't let you go there. I have got to protect him and myself. Nobody is going near his door.'

That night I apologized to my family for bringing danger upon them. They would have none of it, instead blaming the people who were responsible for the manufactured outrage. My dad said, “What are they going to do to me, anyway? Kill me? I’m already old.” My stepmom was as calm as a lamb, like nothing at all was happening. I asked her how she could remain so unaffected. She replied, “I prayed to Allah to keep us safe. Everything will be okay for us.” From outward appearances, they seemed relaxed while I was the nervous wreck.

I responded online to my family’s dox by sending a tweet that was less of a counterattack than a means to garner sympathy.

Whatever I’ve done in my life, my parents don’t deserve to be harmed because of my work.

While it wasn’t quite a nervous breakdown, it was a departure from my normal aggressive demeanor. Soon after I sent it out, I received an email from Vox Day asking for my number. He called me the next day, Friday, February 5, when I was in the middle of packing my bags. I planned to leave that night because the security firm advised me that it was best to make a visible exit from my family’s house to take the spotlight off of them.

“You’re reacting right now,” Vox said. “You’re not working based on a plan.”

“I’m feeling shell-shocked,” I replied. “I was prepared for a lot of things but not my family getting doxed. Besides hiring the security firm, I’m not sure what to do next.”

“You have to get the narrative back. The best way to do this is to call a press conference with the D.C. media and go after them hard. Otherwise they’re just going to keep attacking you.”

The last thing on my mind while trying to defend my family was going back on the attack, but I knew he was right. I sent out a tweet inviting members of the media to a press conference for the next evening. Within a couple of hours, I had over ten responses. I called up a hotel I used to take dates to when I was in my mid 20’s and reserved a conference room for one hour.
As you may recall, Roosh's performance at the press conference was superlative. By the time it was over, the various reporters and their camera crews were scuttling back to England and Germany with their tails between their legs. The book includes the full transcript of the press conference in an appendix, and it merits inclusion in a future textbook that teaches one how to deal with a hostile crowd of journalists.

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81 Comments:

Blogger Alexandros June 14, 2016 8:09 AM  

If anything, you may be understating Roosh's performance at the press conference. In fact, reading that he was shell shocked blows me away: I had no idea that they had gotten to him given how well he had handled that press conference.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan June 14, 2016 8:13 AM  

Take note of the fact he is of Muslim heritage and he did our work for us. In my estimation the alt-right is world wide.

In Boydian terms the Left has and for the most part within the OODA Loop of White Christian men and here we are being lead in part by an aggressive Persian with a conqueror's name.

If the Cuck sellouts are hung we stand a chance.

Blogger Earl June 14, 2016 8:35 AM  

SJW crisis hotline. How may I help you?

Blogger Nick S June 14, 2016 8:36 AM  

Vox, sorry to go off topic here, but I didn't want to use email because somebody has been spoofing one of my e-mail accounts. I think I have it tracked down to some bitch in Mumbai, but anyone here I have ever e-mailed should probably block me until I'm sure I have it figured out. Sorry if it's cause anyone any inconvenience.

Anonymous andon June 14, 2016 8:55 AM  

not a fan of this guy. treats women like cr@p.

Blogger Chris Mallory June 14, 2016 9:08 AM  

He isn't masculine, unless you consider the morals of a dog or a Didndu to be masculine. The sooner President Trump deports him back to Buggerasheepistan the better off the West will be.

Anonymous Athor Pel June 14, 2016 9:12 AM  

"5. Anonymous andon June 14, 2016 8:55 AM
not a fan of this guy. treats women like cr@p"



Strapon,
Who are you to decide how women want to be treated.
Are they not adults.

Do you even know what any woman wants.

Or you have a vagina yourself and didn't get any attention from Roosh.

Blogger SS June 14, 2016 9:13 AM  

For anyone that missed the press conference when it happened, here is the link

Blogger Gaiseric June 14, 2016 9:16 AM  

@5 and @6: There's not much difference between your posts and the obviously fake reviews at Amazon that don't say anything other than that they hate the author because rape or whatever.

Blogger Student in Blue June 14, 2016 9:18 AM  

I'm honestly shocked that Roosh's press conference only happened back in February, because it feels like a lifetime ago.

Blogger Dexter June 14, 2016 9:20 AM  

Quite honestly, "beat the living shit out of the Daily Mail reporters" would have been my first reaction.

Anonymous Elipe June 14, 2016 9:24 AM  

@11 At a minimum, broken knees.

OpenID dantealiegri June 14, 2016 9:36 AM  

@7: Athor, sadly the majority of the boomers that could understand better have a very difficult time getting rid of the frame.

I know one that is very relaxed with women, does some of the playful negging stuff, but has said you NEVER hit women: not even in defense.

Blogger Chris Mallory June 14, 2016 9:37 AM  

@9 Actually, I hate Roosh because he is an alien invader in the West. He does not belong here, he is a creature of the East. One who is barely even human in his morals and behavior. I hate Roosh, because I am not a hypocrite about immigration and dirty immigrants.

If he was "masculine" he would have a wife and children. PERIOD. There is nothing masculine about rutting like a dog.
There is not a bit of difference between Roosh and the wogs in Rotherham.

Blogger Gaiseric June 14, 2016 9:39 AM  

Semi-on topic: Trump just revoked the Washington Post's press privileges with regard to his campaign. http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/06/13/donald-trump-revokes-washington-post-press-privileges/

Anonymous BGKB June 14, 2016 9:40 AM  

In Boydian terms the Left has and for the most part within the OODA Loop of White Christian men

Jenner killed one woman and gets to identify as a woman driver, but an Afghani moslem kills 50 gays only to be labeled a WHITE NRA MAN

If he was "masculine" he would have a wife and children.

The No True Scotts Family Man fallacy.

Blogger Gaiseric June 14, 2016 9:41 AM  

@14: And all of that has to do with the topic of the OP... how exactly? Like I said; you hate him because he's a Persian having sex with white women. The feminist loonies who wrote the fake Amazon reviews hate him because he stands against the Narrative and refuses to repeat the Leftist catechisms, or encourage others to do so.

Neither one of your responses have anything whatsoever to do with the topic of his book, or what it contains.

Blogger Al From Bay Shore June 14, 2016 9:41 AM  

Gotta' wait till the next pay period to buy a whole lotta books: "SJWAL, Gorilla Mindset, Free Speech....., Cuckservative. Y'all on a mission to bankrupt a brutha!

Blogger Chris Mallory June 14, 2016 9:43 AM  

"Daryush 'Roosh' Valizadeh, 36, the self-proclaimed 'King of Masculinity' "

This is not part of the topic of his book?

"The No True Scotts Family Man fallacy."

I call it the Christian Man of the West Truth.

Blogger Chris Mallory June 14, 2016 9:47 AM  

Roosh isn't fighting the Globalist Establishment, he is the Globalist Establishment. He is what they want to happen to the Christian West. You cannot defend the Christian West and champion scum like Roosh.

Anonymous docduke June 14, 2016 9:48 AM  

I just downloaded the Kindle book. According to Amazon, "File Size: 2494 KB" but the download was 366 KB. Perhaps either Roosh made an update which lost a lot, or Amazon has been hacked.

Blogger Student in Blue June 14, 2016 9:53 AM  

You're not virtue signaling hard enough Chris. You need to shoot even more people firing at your enemies because they don't align with you 100%.

Blogger Cail Corishev June 14, 2016 10:03 AM  

We may never start the battle, but we'll have the purest foxhole in the war!

Blogger Sir Thermite June 14, 2016 10:08 AM  

Chris, I hope you're equally as discriminating about any music you listen to, purchase, or have in your collection. Nothing from any artist who ruts like a dog, is anti-Christian, or anti-Western. It would be unconscionable for you to accept such for trivial entertainment while also attacking a man who's talking about something that really matters.

Blogger rumpole5 June 14, 2016 10:09 AM  

Roosh has rendered an invaluable service to men and women by explaining basic elements of our interactions with one another.

The man has, in effect, given you a $100 K relationship Mercedes. It is up to you to decide where to drive it. If it were I, then the destination would be as far from our current [cat lady, 1000 clock, alpha widowhood] (for men) , and [divorce rape,never-see-your-kids, poverty stricken hell] (for females), culture assigned ends as I could get. A simple "thank you Roosh" would be nice to see.

Anonymous #8601 Jean Valjean June 14, 2016 10:14 AM  

The dishonesty of the media and the Left has never been in doubt, but I didn't realize the sheer scale of it until I heard the warnings on my local news station that "rapist" Roosh V was in town. Everyone should stay inside.

Anonymous Sepp Dietrich June 14, 2016 10:22 AM  

Hey Chris Mallory,

You've obviously never read anything Roosh has written.
He's no longer a PUA and has been telling men to reconsider sexual excess and to try to find a decent woman. And he's been saying that for a couple years now

Roosh calls for white nations to be more nationalist, he calls for men to embrace traditional masculine traits and to reject the establishment's push to feminize men, he's investigated the Jewish question, he's taken on the SPLC and won, he's hated by the globalist left and cuckservatives alike. His opposition to them is effective and he's shooting at the correct targets.

And that's nothing to you because he's Persian.

This tells me three things:

1. You are dumb. Really dumb.
2. In a warfighting situation you would attack an allied force who is effectively engaging the enemy hoard because...of your own virtual signaling.
3. This is why you are a loser, and partially why WNs have never won anything. You're happy to help your enemy attack your ally making it easier for the enemy to win.

Did I mention that you're dumb?

Anonymous Baseball Savant June 14, 2016 10:23 AM  

"Actually, I hate Roosh because he is an alien invader in the West. He does not belong here, he is a creature of the East. One who is barely even human in his morals and behavior. I hate Roosh, because I am not a hypocrite about immigration and dirty immigrants.

If he was "masculine" he would have a wife and children. PERIOD. There is nothing masculine about rutting like a dog.
There is not a bit of difference between Roosh and the wogs in Rotherham."

This times a fucking thousand. I can't stand this foreign whore. I can't respect in the slightest some jackass who has made his name partially on how better to fornicate.

Would be more than happy to meet up with this guy in a dark alley.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan June 14, 2016 10:28 AM  

Chris' commentary is close to SJW "point and shriek" about as engaging as well.

Anonymous BlueSwedeShoes June 14, 2016 10:28 AM  

@28

There's a world of difference between someone who sleeps with adult women willingly riding the carousel and someone that rapes and whores out twelve year old girls.

Anonymous RS June 14, 2016 10:30 AM  

"Would be more than happy to meet up with this guy in a dark alley"

Sounds like something Milo would say

You big homo

Blogger Student in Blue June 14, 2016 10:35 AM  

@30. BlueSwedeShoes
There's a world of difference between someone who sleeps with adult women willingly riding the carousel and someone that rapes and whores out twelve year old girls.

You don't understand! If Roosh hadn't written a book about what women really find attractive and how he used it to get laid, all of our women would still be pure and upright!

/s

Anonymous patrick kelly June 14, 2016 10:41 AM  

Some people are just incapable of having a substantial conversation about complex ideas or issues without drowning in knee-jerk feelzbads.

Anonymous Baseball Savant June 14, 2016 10:41 AM  

@30

That doesn't make it right either way. For him too.

Anonymous Rather, Not June 14, 2016 10:42 AM  

I am sympathetic to both sides of the Roosh debate, however, I would like to personally thank Vox for reaching out to a man in difficult time in his life, and genuinely helping him, and by extension, all of us. Thank you, Theodore, for being a good man.

That incident could have hurt the alt-right broadly (more than it did) and Vox stepped in to either reduce the magnitude of the negative or perhaps even help turn it into a positive, while helping a person. Thank you for getting involved, and I hope if I am ever in the midst of an SJW firestorm, I hope Vox reaches out to me. Otherwise, I will rely on his book instead of his personal consulting services. Thank you, for this, and all you do.

Anonymous Baseball Savant June 14, 2016 10:43 AM  

@31

I love it!

Blogger Nick S June 14, 2016 10:44 AM  

I'm not sure what it is about Roosh that elicits so much consternation or interest in general. Other than the occasional blurb of intentionally antagonistic hyperbole, most of what I've seen from him is unremarkable common sense stuff.

Anonymous Gecko June 14, 2016 10:47 AM  

Is the concept of foreign allies so horribly lost on people?

I disapprove of Roosh too and I certainly don't view the man as a brother. But dang, he's indubitably an ally in some common causes of ours. Nationalism doesn't mean you isolate yourself on an island of purest purity.

This abject hate for the man is an indicator of... other problems.

Anonymous e.r. June 14, 2016 10:51 AM  

you think he didn't want all this controversy? the guy manufactured himself.

he doesnt give a shit about any of the things he preaches. he know its going to sell to dimwitted consumerist assholes.

hes like colin farrel from the movie phonebooth. a lie peddler "my lies sell even more lies"

a guy who constantly sources slogans of himself "of provoking a country" "got invited to the media outlets of x east european country" guy is a publicity slut.

i only encountered this asshole like 3 weeks ago for the first time. on one stupid post he gives child rearing advice. he says something like "if u dont want ur kids to be hedonistic" what?! this asshole is the definition of hedonism. he doesnt work. sells shit stories and openly says "i'm in the business of getting laid" hedonism is religiously fulfilling desires. thats all he does.

he's just a scheming homeless guy that figured out how to panhandle sophisticatedly. no point in giving him attention.

stupid effeminate. the degenerates should get behind him ... er.. lol...

Blogger Bullitt315 June 14, 2016 10:54 AM  

Roosh and Roissy got me from dating unattractive women who were older than me and I had no idea what I was doing to dating younger prettier more pleasant girls. Roosh isn't perfect but I'd probably still be miserable if I didn't read his book.

Blogger Tim_W_Burke June 14, 2016 10:55 AM  

Perhaps rhetoric needs clarification. Is it "Muslims can never understand Western civ, so deport Muslims except for the ones who agree with us"? That position would be more palatable.

Anonymous fop June 14, 2016 10:59 AM  

BUILD THAT WALL DONALD!

Anonymous Elipe June 14, 2016 11:22 AM  

Goodness... people, this is why conservatives lost. You idiots read everybody out of your movement and then wonder why your movement doesn't get anything done.

Oh noes, Roosh is a scary brown sandman that wonders where all da white wimmenz are!!1 ENEMY!

Blogger Al From Bay Shore June 14, 2016 11:32 AM  

Some of the folks casting "shade" on Roosh remind me of the folks the GOPe and Conservatism Inc. casting "shade" on Trump. What's up with that?

Blogger residentMoron June 14, 2016 11:33 AM  

I find it weird enough that the LGBT/SJW crowd have common cause with the jihadis, in that they both feel entitled to forcibly silence anyone who disagrees with them, purely on the strength of their own feelings.

It's just fucking surreal to find that same kind of (non)thinking popping up in a thread here ...

Blogger Student in Blue June 14, 2016 11:35 AM  

@39 e.r.
you think he didn't want all this controversy? the guy manufactured himself.

He manufactured himself! The travesty!

Also you're a very skilled mind-reader, to be able to cut through all of his lying lies to find out that, yes, he wuz just askin' for it, even though he wuz sayin no.

he doesnt give a shit about any of the things he preaches. he know its going to sell to dimwitted consumerist assholes.

hes like colin farrel from the movie phonebooth. a lie peddler "my lies sell even more lies"


Brilliant detective work. I wish all of the reporters would gain your amount of analytical skill, because maybe then they'd stop just repeating mindless assertions, and instead bring HARD-HITTING FACTS to their stories!

a guy who constantly sources slogans of himself "of provoking a country" "got invited to the media outlets of x east european country" guy is a publicity slut.

Anti-fragility is clearly now only "he was asking for it, that publicity slut". The only possible explanation. Probably masochistic, because of all the stress he willingly went through!

i only encountered this asshole like 3 weeks ago for the first time. on one stupid post he gives child rearing advice. he says something like "if u dont want ur kids to be hedonistic" what?! this asshole is the definition of hedonism. he doesnt work. sells shit stories and openly says "i'm in the business of getting laid" hedonism is religiously fulfilling desires. thats all he does.

Now, who better to describe the trap of hedonism than one who fell into it? Would you also distrust a biker who wrote an article on "how to make sure your kid doesn't grow up to be a biker"?

he's just a scheming homeless guy that figured out how to panhandle sophisticatedly. no point in giving him attention.

stupid effeminate. the degenerates should get behind him ... er.. lol...


You surely are the pinnacle of masculinity.

Blogger Gaiseric June 14, 2016 11:43 AM  

residentMoron wrote:It's just fucking surreal to find that same kind of (non)thinking popping up in a thread here ...
Are you new here?

My favorite variety of that kind of non-thinking that used to be frequent here were the sagas of Porky and Tiny Tim. Truly, we were entertained for a season.

Anonymous Gen. Kong June 14, 2016 11:58 AM  

Well here's another one of those odd situations … We have Christians here attacking Roosh, who was born a Musloid yet has been actually fighting the globalist cabal of genocidal criminals. Yesterday, some folks were having problems with BGKB, Donovan et al because they're gays. Someone remarked that Musloids are at the top of the SJW totem pole at present. Obviously this does't apply to the at least nominally Muslim Roosh. I suspect the reality is that the totem pole hierarchy shifts to suit the purpose of those who control it. Note also that I deliberately used the term totem pole, meaning that the idols painted thereupon are not the real thing but symbols, there to be re-arranged to suit the desires if the priesthood in control. Perhaps we need to start thinking in terms of greater enemy versus lesser enemies?

As someone noted yesterday, it's unlikely that anyone who died in Orlando was our friend - either shooter or those he shot. The one thing all these shootings appear to have in common - from the Old Negro Cathedral in Charleston (Dylan Roof) to the Bat-a-Clan in Paris (ISIS) - is that both the shooters and the victims are small-fry: rank and file grunts who really don't have much to do with controlling the outcome of anything. As someone over at Spencer's place noted yesterday:

Muslims haven't got much imagination, they always go for targets of no consequence. Now, if this Afghan thought a bit more he would have concluded martini hour at the Palm Beach Breakers would present some significant targets. Which is more important, a jewish politician or some fat fag who likes to dress up as Carmen Miranda.

Expanding on this interesting observation, I've yet to see a banksta like Llord Bankfein or Soros take a bullet or a bomb, or any degenerate, genocidal 'leader', be it Angela Merkel or Hi-Fellatin' Franny, David Cameroon, Lindsay Graham, the Kentucky Undertaker, Paul Ryan or even the members of the Lügenpresse who spew out lies on a daily basis. Funny how that works …. those who really have earned much worse than getting shot by an AR at close range are miraculously immune from harm.

Blogger Student in Blue June 14, 2016 11:59 AM  

Truly, we were entertained for a season.

The Tale of the Walmart Bathroom Ka-bar will never leave my memory.

Blogger Nick S June 14, 2016 11:59 AM  

Now, who better to describe the trap of hedonism than one who fell into it? Would you also distrust a biker who wrote an article on "how to make sure your kid doesn't grow up to be a biker"?

Also, Waylon & Willie have some nerve. "Mamas, don't let your babies grow up to be cowboys...*Twang*"

Blogger Noah B June 14, 2016 12:03 PM  

I don't read Roosh much, but based on comments it sounds like he's come a long way. Good for him.

Anonymous e.r. June 14, 2016 12:06 PM  

@46

I'm a rent collector. I deal with third worlders all the time. I see it all the time. People's genuiness and their deceitfulness. I'm no expert at pinpointing people, but roosh is easier than most and he's not good at deception. He's like a fledgling second grader learning how to be slick. Buy his own iranian culture's standards he's mediocre at best. I've seen the pros. I know what they're doing. I've had people from his culture put me in positions where I could not directly say no.. all because they took control of the situation slyly.. and I knew what was happening. My strategy for the pros... saying yes now to them disappoint them later. Infrequently i confront them at the heat of the moment. Sometimes they're humiliated and dont let the insult go. Are my experiences too humble for you?

Go watch his videos, especially the one on the whole canadian sjw incident. if your human instincts don't tell you he's a bullshitter and that there is something lacking in him then i cant tell you anything. try wearing a critical cap, especially with this guy. like i said, i don't think he's very good at deception.

its not a coincidence. he brags about it.. constantly. hes boastful. he follows a formula. go to a country and rabble rouse. he was able to turn himself into a profitable clown by doing that. perhaps unfortunately, maybe his family are genuine. to him its just collateral damage and more writing material.

why does he do the same thing over and over? go to a country. agitate. get publicity. sell books or get air time. he lives off the formula. its his business model. Did it in iceland. did it romania. did it in canada. same thing. do u see a pattern fine sir? after a certain point these arent accidentals or incidentals.




Blogger Tim_W_Burke June 14, 2016 12:07 PM  

I'm just pleased that this isn't a "God spews out the lukewarm" kind of crowd. Exempting gays, aliens, and other religions based on the belief of the individual is heartening. I don't read rhetoric very well plus the posts from some of the commenters is discouraging.

Blogger residentMoron June 14, 2016 12:11 PM  

@Gaiseric

Heh. Not that new. But the stupid got to me today. This crap about not learning anything from anyone who isn't perfect. Meh. Abraham married his sister then tried to lend her to pharoah to save his own ass. David nicked his neighbors wife and then had the guy killed to try and cover it up. Better not read any of that Old Testament!!!

Bloody hell.

Blogger VD June 14, 2016 12:20 PM  

Roosh isn't fighting the Globalist Establishment, he is the Globalist Establishment.

You're an idiot.


This times a fucking thousand. I can't stand this foreign whore. I can't respect in the slightest some jackass who has made his name partially on how better to fornicate.


You're not an idiot, but you're ignorant. Read the book. You will LOVE a lot of it. People learn. People change.

Blogger Al From Bay Shore June 14, 2016 12:23 PM  

@51

I followed the Canadian drama. Didn't see any bullshit there. I got into it what that Sarah Toulson schmuck. As typical, she made an empty threat to contact my job.

AND THEN there were the meetups. We had to change our meetup point because folks were lurking around our spot.

This stuff is real, and Roosh wanna derive livelihood off this then more power to him!

Anonymous DC (#sqrt(-1)) June 14, 2016 12:29 PM  

Read his "A Dead Bat in Paraguay"...gotta admit, the ending left me feeling kind of sad for the guy -- the poignancy of spiritual emptiness at the end of his journey of libertine pursuits is why I think he's been writing a lot about finding meaning in life, rather than finding women.

That said, he's one of those fighting the good fight -- no reason to shoot at him, gosh!

Blogger Gaiseric June 14, 2016 12:33 PM  

Noah B wrote:I don't read Roosh much, but based on comments it sounds like he's come a long way. Good for him.
Plus, this might be a good time to bring up the parable of the Prodigal Son... for those who are acting more like the elder brother in said parable.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan June 14, 2016 12:45 PM  

The Roosh haters have a problem and Roosh is the least of it, they cannot maintain frame. See Roissy's work today about Shitlord of the month

Honestly my gentle white dudes the big secret is that the glorious men of color have a very, very thin talent pool, don't pay retail for your anti-white man propaganda

Blogger Jon M June 14, 2016 12:47 PM  

Vox, I can confirm, but not overstate how critical your support was to Roosh. Me and a few other guys were there for him during the meetup debacle. We had volunteered to help irganize and when the braying mob showed up with pitchforks stood by him, and did our best to talk him down from the metaphorical ledge. As a noname group of newcomers the best we could offer was moral support.

The difference in his behavior pre-Vox and post-Vox was night and day. He went from distracted and worrisome to focussed and aggressive. You could tell that even through the chat box that was our only interaction.

So thank you for reaching out to him. The world is a better place with guys like you in it. Next time the mob comes for either of you, I'll be proud to stand on the barricade at your side.

Anonymous Baseball Savant June 14, 2016 12:54 PM  

VD,

I trust you. I believe I would love a lot of it. I also am entirely ignorant of this. Something rubs me wrong though. I've probably written this post 1,000x and have deleted. When I feel like I have a better response I'll post it or maybe e-mail you.

Anonymous Eric the Red June 14, 2016 12:57 PM  

Vox was an exemplar, and Roosh was stellar.

Blogger VD June 14, 2016 12:59 PM  

So thank you for reaching out to him. The world is a better place with guys like you in it. Next time the mob comes for either of you, I'll be proud to stand on the barricade at your side.

You're welcome, of course. The Dread Ilk have done the same for me many, many times. Part of my unshakeable confidence comes from the fact that I know I have a small army standing behind me.

The other part of it, of course, is my natural self-confidence in my intellectual superiority.

I also am entirely ignorant of this. Something rubs me wrong though. I've probably written this post 1,000x and have deleted. When I feel like I have a better response I'll post it or maybe e-mail you.

Don't. Read the book first. Never opine in ignorance. Would you judge the Apostle Paul in the same manner you would judge the Pharisee Saul of Tarsus? Roosh is on a journey. We do not know where it will end.

But you will not be able to read the book without concluding that he is, at the very least, an ally.

Anonymous Baseball Savant June 14, 2016 1:02 PM  

"Read the book first"

Will do.

Anonymous Athor Pel June 14, 2016 1:08 PM  

"53. Blogger residentMoron June 14, 2016 12:11 PM
...
Abraham married his sister then tried to lend her to pharoah to save his own ass.
..."


[sperg]
He did the same thing with Abimelech.

But he didn't explicitly lend her out. He observed the locals didn't fear God and was worried they would just kill him for his wife since she was so fine.
So he had her say she was his sister in order to avoid being killed. It was technically the truth but not the whole truth. Pharoah and Abimelech just did what they do, monopolize all the pretty womens. God sorted it out.

But the most interesting thing was Sarah's age when these events happened. She was over 90 years old. Those are some good genes. But not surprising when you realize Shem was still alive when Abraham was living in Ur. He grew up with Shem.
[/sperg]

Anonymous 5343 June 14, 2016 1:23 PM  

Unlike a few folks in this thread, I actually finished the book before commenting. Those who see Roosh exclusively as a manipulator and self-promoter are in for a shock, if they will allow themselves to be the least bit objective.

People who claim to be interested in reclaiming Western Civilization ought to be able to grasp that purging Roosh is way, WAY down the To-Do List.

To huff and puff here over what you don't like about an ally is as productive as the man up to his eyeballs in quicksand whose overriding impulse is to push the person sinking beside him further down.

Anonymous e.r. June 14, 2016 1:34 PM  

@55

"This stuff is real, and Roosh wanna derive livelihood off this then more power to him!"

this is where i see the damn mind fail. The guy is an open sinner. He is an open hedonist. The very thing this blog is crusading against. a restoration of traditional morality. how do you see yourself wishing well for a person that is doing the exact opposite of what many people on this blog are aspiring to? open sinners have to be called out. they can't be allowed to share in any glory when they themselves are not making an effort to recant and repent. did roosh change his ways? from mystandpoint i have yet to be informed of such a development.

just like its been suggested you have to shame and call out those that are adulterers.. u have to do the same with those of the same ilk... hedonists.

my position i guess is purist, or maybe realist. but how else do have a coherent platform and team? u have disavow people like that.

vd said read his book first. fine. i just went on torrents to see if this guys books were there, look at one of the comments:

" Well there goes Ukraine. When a bunch of books come out about how to get your women banged up by a bunch of Americans, you know Eastern European white slavery is in full effect. The Ukrainian men die fighting against each other at the behest of NATO, or get hooked on heroin (brought in by the CIA from Afghanistan with the help of dual citizen oligarchs) or die as alcoholics. The pensioners die of starvation and cold. But the best is reserved for the women, they get to be EU and USA whores. Come on Eastern Europe, rise up and kick all the scum out. You can do business with China and India and Latin America. Screw these imperialists killer clowns. "
https://kat.cr/bang-ukraine-how-to-have-sex-with-ukrainian-girls-in-ukraine-by-roosh-v-t11947504.html#comment

look at that. roosh is really contributing civilizationally to eastern europe.

you think roosh is improving civilization just by confronting SJW's? vox published a manual on how to do that... even roosh could master how to deflect an attack. but mastering his own soul and morality and actually not succumbing to hedonism.... he wouldn't be welcome into my camp based on that criteria... that criteria which is really one's mettle. its the reason why i have a low opinion of him. i don't expect much from him. think about it. if u invite him into your platform (traditionalism and morality) without making any demands on him to change anything then you will have discredited everything your platform stands for. you devalue your message by letting its opposites lay claim to it and bask under its radiance. hedonists don't have a right to that. not at all. throw them out with the trash.

if i find his latest book ill read it. but i aint giving him a dime. at least until he repents and changes his ways publicly. like i said the guys a peddler and im cynical about him. i dont think he has any genuineness.

Blogger VD June 14, 2016 1:36 PM  

vd said read his book first. fine. i just went on torrents to see if this guys books were there, look at one of the comments:

Don't be a complete fucking idiot. Buy the book. Read it. Then express your opinion.

In the meantime, you are hurting your own case by behaving like an ignorant moron.

Blogger Student in Blue June 14, 2016 1:46 PM  

@51. e.r.

The only thing I took away from all of that is that he's successful and says things that modern culture finds offensive, and that's why you don't like him.

Anonymous Gecko June 14, 2016 1:59 PM  

@64 ... Shem was still alive when Abraham was living in Ur. He grew up with Shem.

Shem was even a contemporary of Isaac for fifty years, wasn't he? Oh, to know what life was really like in those days...

Blogger Mr.MantraMan June 14, 2016 2:34 PM  

The death threat thing ought to be turned around on these cowards

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 14, 2016 2:38 PM  

Mr.MantraMan wrote:The death threat thing ought to be turned around on these cowards

Doesn't work. You see, we deserve death threats.

Blogger Lucas June 14, 2016 4:22 PM  

Vox, I think its fantastic that you and Roosh are working together against SJWs. I havent seen such a gpod "dupla" since Cristiano Ronaldo and Rooney in Manchester United. God bless you both.

Blogger residentMoron June 14, 2016 5:18 PM  

@Athor Pel

I deliberately put as cynical a spin on it as possible, as that is what was being done to Roosh. No charity at all in the imputations about a man none of these people opining so categorically have actually met.

But yeah... how have the mighty fallen.

[sperg reflex] he knew what both kings wanted her for and he knew their customs. God had to warn off both not to touch her, otherwise they would have.
Incidentally, the story of Sarah in Egypt is a microcosm of the story of Israel, God's chosen bride. He delivers her/them from Pharoah's captivity by means of great plagues and they come out with great riches to encourage them to leave. While this story relates the human frailties of even a great patriarch of old, that is not its only purpose or meaning.
[/sperg]

Anonymous BGKB June 14, 2016 6:19 PM  

Boy you guys sure are coming down hard on RooshV. What if his next book is "How to find and keep a marryable American woman" or "How to go STR8 before they come for you, now that the moslems, blacks & jews have been taken care of".

Anonymous Rhetoric Man June 14, 2016 7:59 PM  

“She replied, “I prayed to Allah to keep us safe. Everything will be okay for us.” From outward appearances, they seemed relaxed while I was the nervous wreck.”

Roosh is Muslim. He should be immediately deported, as his kind represents a distinct threat to Western Civilization. BUT, he is a useful idiot. Because anti-SJW. So he can stay.


“Read the book. You will LOVE a lot of it. People learn. People change.”



If he wasn’t hitting the wall, he would remain dedicated to harpooning young poon. He got what he wanted, so of course he is going to “change his ways”. Until he shuts down his website and utterly calls out the manosphere that he helped spawn, Roosh is representative of anti-Christian masculinity. He is no ally.

Mr. Mantra Man...

Chris Mallory is a tool, but he is spot on his commentary regarding Roosh.

Blogger tz June 14, 2016 8:23 PM  

half OT but Police are so busy doing ticket taxation and forfeiture they are ignoring Actual cases of rape where there are rape kits, to the point they are discovering john-doe serial rapists.

Not Rolling Stone rape. Not Mattress girl. Real assaults.

Blogger Unknown June 15, 2016 1:52 AM  

I take it no one is going to mention how Roosh completely fell apart on the Dr. Oz show? Or how, on Ukrainian media, he was confronted by women who never knew him, yet Roosh said he slept with them? Is no one going to mention that Roosh lies about all the women he sleeps with, and that his sexual escapades amount to little more than, "Where the white women at?"

Is no one going to say he said, 'I consider all women useless whores'? It's amusing to see Roosh advocate free speech or consider himself part of the brigade. He is a scammer of the finest degree, who can't even handle himself on Dr. Oz despite all his claims of easily defeating feminists.

Blogger weka June 15, 2016 1:57 AM  

The irony is that Roosh is becoming a TradCon and it would not shock me to find that he takes Augustinian orders in a while.

He wants to be Holy, and the "not yet" clause is reaching its expiry rate.

Anonymous Cheddarman June 15, 2016 2:23 AM  

Roosh teaches those who are teachable. Take note Christian, you can see various aspects of game and the response of women to men depending on their apparent position in the sexual hirearchy though out the bible. Read the life of David. Or consider Jesus with the woman at the well. And don't disregard the apostle Paul's teaching that the man is to be the head of the marriage or relationship. Roosh is embarrassing the white Knight Christians by understanding the fallen nature of women and using that to his advantage. The White Knight on the other hand has rejected biblical truth and embraced doctrines of demons in the name of equality ,

Anonymous andon June 15, 2016 3:46 PM  

27. Anonymous Sepp Dietrich June 14, 2016 10:22 AM
Hey Chris Mallory,

You've obviously never read anything Roosh has written.
He's no longer a PUA and has been telling men to reconsider sexual excess and to try to find a decent woman.


yes i'll be sure to take advice from him on that.

I think there was a racial element in his f'ing Caucasian women too, kind of sticking it in your face. reverse things and see if you get away with that in his country of origin. he's worthless

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