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Sunday, June 12, 2016

#Brexit


If Oliver Cromwell were alive today, he would beseech the British people, in the bowels of Christ, to get out of the Fourth Reich while they can still do so peacefully.

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53 Comments:

Blogger Krul June 12, 2016 8:13 AM  

How they managed to survive without the EU for so many centuries is one of history's greatest mysteries.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan June 12, 2016 8:20 AM  

Just read a Sam Francis piece over at Radix about the new elite, the Managerial Elite of the new class, and it does seem they have not cemented a bright future for themselves and their posterity. They seem to have as much foresight as a ghetto dweller leaping out of a looted store with a TV under his/her arms.

Of course the managerial elite's religion of ideology and its sins of "Isms" is not a very inspiring faith except to the Trigglypuffs of the world.

Blogger exfarmkid June 12, 2016 8:20 AM  

Agreed.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan June 12, 2016 8:37 AM  

Outside of a very narrow demographic slice the Managerial elite counts as its useful idiots large masses of people who sin against the religious precepts of secular humanism "sexism, racism and homophobia" with sometimes reckless abandon.

The new elite will probably burn the Earth down just so the likes of Mitt Romney and George Soros won't suffer judgement for their attempts at social engineering with a healthy profit margin as reward.

Blogger ZhukovG June 12, 2016 8:40 AM  

If the United Kingdom wants to be part of an economic cooperation group, then the UK should form it themselves within the Commonwealth. Particularly with the Commonwealth Realms; which are those nations that still acknowledge Her Majesty as their Head of State (Canada, Australia, New Zealand and I think a few others).

Blogger Manach June 12, 2016 8:49 AM  

If Cromwell has still alive, he would be too busy dodging numerous attempts to even the score by that small fragment of the Irish population who have not been infected by the PC-ism meme viruses.

Blogger ValeriusMaximus June 12, 2016 8:56 AM  

If Brexit is approved, it is a good first step in the direction of nationalism, but it doesn't fix the immigration problem, not to mention the many problems produced by the British managerial class. If the UK becomes a majority muslim country it won't matter if they are in or out of the EU.

Blogger Salt June 12, 2016 8:59 AM  

ValeriusMaximus wrote:If the UK becomes a majority muslim country it won't matter if they are in or out of the EU.

Can't become a majority if there aren't any muslims.

Blogger dc.sunsets June 12, 2016 10:08 AM  

If Trump is elected the USA will have a huge stock market crash.

If the British exist the EU it will cause a huge stock crash.

I suspect I'm not alone in hating the people who publish such open propaganda.

Blogger Twisted Root June 12, 2016 10:13 AM  

As a Brit who has already voted Leave (postal) I don't see Referendum Day as make or break, but an event on our path to eventual withdrawal.
The media overwhelmingly leans towards Remain, Remain has the huge payroll vote of government workers (who will be the people counting the votes by the way), and the official Leave campaign has a fraction of the funding and is led by ill-informed clown politicians. That said, everyone who doesn't have some direct or indirect financial interest is voting Leave.
The polls mostly show it is neck and neck but on the ground it is more like 70% - 30% to Leave. Which is why I think the result doesn't matter as long as the right takes the long view of history and stops seeing on one-off dramatic events as amounting to anything.
Should Britain pull off Brexit there is still a huge job to do cleaning out the Augean stables of the political, and more importantly, bureaucratic class.

Anonymous kfg June 12, 2016 10:17 AM  

@5: "If the United Kingdom wants to be part of an economic cooperation group, then the UK should form it themselves within the Commonwealth."

It's a wonder that no one has thought of that before.

Blogger James Dixon June 12, 2016 10:26 AM  

> I suspect I'm not alone in hating the people who publish such open propaganda.

The only thing they have right is that there will (eventually) be another huge stock market crash. There have been three in my lifetime so far (1987, 2000, and 2008).

Blogger WerePuppy June 12, 2016 10:37 AM  

@2 Mr.MantraMan
They seem to have as much foresight as a ghetto dweller leaping out of a looted store with a TV under his/her arms.
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Someone commented here a while back that they may not be as smart as we think they are.

The globalists try and play us like puppets.

I'm beginning to think someone is playing the globalists like puppets as well.

Anonymous Gen. Kong June 12, 2016 10:39 AM  

>I suspect I'm not alone in hating the people who publish such open propaganda.

I am curious as to why anyone would expect the Ministry of Truth to publish anything other than propaganda? That's what they exist for, after all. As the saying used to go in the old Soviet Union: There's no news in the truth and no truth in the news.

Blogger WerePuppy June 12, 2016 10:40 AM  

@5 ZhukovG

If the United Kingdom wants to be part of an economic cooperation group, then the UK should form it themselves within the Commonwealth. Particularly with the Commonwealth Realms; which are those nations that still acknowledge Her Majesty as their Head of State (Canada, Australia, New Zealand and I think a few others).
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A good while back I read an article, probably in NR, about an anglosphere. The English speaking nations would align into some kind of cooperative.

I'm not sure how that wouldn't end up as the same thing we are dealing with now, ultimately.

Blogger WerePuppy June 12, 2016 10:43 AM  

@7 ValeriusMaximus

If Brexit is approved, it is a good first step in the direction of nationalism
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I've got an ignorant question.

Wouldn't the Queen and the royal family be a rallying point for nationalists in the UK?

Even if they are just figure heads, wouldn't the symbolism be helpful?

Hopefully they aren't globalists as well...

Blogger ValeriusMaximus June 12, 2016 10:59 AM  

WerePuppy wrote:
Wouldn't the Queen and the royal family be a rallying point for nationalists in the UK?
Even if they are just figure heads, wouldn't the symbolism be helpful?


The Royal family's old name, before it was called the House of Windsor, was House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha, which, as you might imagine, is German. The institution of the Monarchy, though not likely this royal family, given its foreign extraction and generally leftists politics, may, but all I can do on this topic is speculate; perhaps a poster here from the UK can tell us more.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 12, 2016 11:16 AM  

They're not predicting a stock market crash. They're threatening a stock market crash.

And yes, the queen has spoken favorably of Brexit.

Anonymous andon June 12, 2016 11:59 AM  

16. Blogger WerePuppy June 12, 2016 10:43 AM

Wouldn't the Queen and the royal family be a rallying point for nationalists in the UK?

Even if they are just figure heads, wouldn't the symbolism be helpful?

Hopefully they aren't globalists as well...


I heard that the Queen hinted at supporting Brexit. would be nice if she went to full time advocating for it.

Anonymous BGKB June 12, 2016 12:08 PM  

If Trump is elected the USA will have a huge stock market crash from ((()))) stabbing the nation in the back.

If the British exist the EU it will cause a huge stock crash from ((()))) stabbing the nation in the back.

Blogger Michael Maier June 12, 2016 12:23 PM  

WerePuppy June 12, 2016 10:37 AM

I'm beginning to think someone is playing the globalists like puppets as well.


This blog opened my eyes to the fact that Satan could not offer the world to Jesus Christ if he didn't have it to offer.

Even before I started praying to God, much more of the world made sense from that perspective.

Anonymous Susan June 12, 2016 12:40 PM  

I think that once the Brits leave the stifling rules of the EU and reclaim their sovereignty, they will finally be able to legally deal with the muslim issue without interference from Brussels. The Queen very much supports reclamation of British sovereignty. So much so that she broke with tradition and made that subtle comment publicly a couple months or so ago after her church service IIRC.

The only thing that is unsettled for me at the moment is will Dhimmi Dave ignore the results if Leave wins?

For the first time yesterday, I noticed news that is saying that Italy is also making noises about leaving the EU also. Do you find that to be true Vox?

Blogger ghostfromplanetspook June 12, 2016 12:44 PM  

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Blogger ghostfromplanetspook June 12, 2016 12:50 PM  

Watching the EU collapse is the most pleasurable schadenfreude I have ever felt in my life. It's like watching Tommy from Good Fellas get shot in the back of the head.

PS if I spoiled Good Fellas for you it's your own fault for not watching it

Anonymous r June 12, 2016 12:50 PM  

Cromwell was a regicidal and heretical maniac who despoiled Ireland, of course. Still so much better than the EU that there's really no comparison.

Anonymous Longtime Lurker June 12, 2016 12:52 PM  

If the Brits Brexit, will the Greeks Grexit?

Blogger Robert What? June 12, 2016 1:21 PM  

Let's hope the Brits vote to reclaim their sovereignty.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 12, 2016 1:33 PM  

Grexit
Spexit
Itexit
and most frightening of all
Frexit.
Then again, I can't see the French foregoing the opportunity to live off of the Germans, so that's not likely.

Blogger Rusty Fife June 12, 2016 1:38 PM  

Susan wrote:The Queen very much supports reclamation of British sovereignty. So much so that she broke with tradition and made that subtle comment publicly a couple months or so ago after her church service IIRC.

I wonder what unused power she has if the populace votes to leave and the bureaucrats try their foot-dragging veto.

Blogger praetorian June 12, 2016 1:53 PM  

I suspect I'm not alone in hating the people who publish such open propaganda.

What sucks is that they can absolutely make it happen. The Fed can engineer a stock market crash at will, because it's all a house of cards. They will do it at the moment it offers them the most leverage: whenever a true danger to the globalist project emerges.

"See, we told you Trump would cause a market crash!" they said as they yanked the supports out from underneath the market.

I supposed we have to hope that it backfires eventually.

Anonymous andon June 12, 2016 1:56 PM  

28. Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 12, 2016 1:33 PM
Grexit
Spexit
Itexit
and most frightening of all
Frexit.
Then again, I can't see the French foregoing the opportunity to live off of the Germans, so that's not likely.


don't forget Texit

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 12, 2016 2:07 PM  

@andon
this ain't about you....

Blogger dc.sunsets June 12, 2016 2:11 PM  

The only thing they have right is that there will (eventually) be another huge stock market crash. There have been three in my lifetime so far (1987, 2000, and 2008).

True, but I find it astonishing that the expectation of a crash is so mainstream that The Mouthpieces are preselecting scapegoats.

Blogger dc.sunsets June 12, 2016 2:14 PM  

I am curious as to why anyone would expect the Ministry of Truth to publish anything other than propaganda? That's what they exist for, after all. As the saying used to go in the old Soviet Union: There's no news in the truth and no truth in the news.

I acknowledge your point. We're already at the point where I look overseas for news on current events in the USA, much like Russians ignored Pravda during the time of the USSR.

Blogger dc.sunsets June 12, 2016 2:19 PM  

@ Mr. Maier, Satan always owns all Earthly kingdoms (AKA nation-state polities.) It is part of Satan's plan, getting fools to clamor for their political rulers to pass the "right laws" so that the Kingdom of Heaven can be established in this life.

Leftism is BY DEFINITION doing the devil's dirty work.

Blogger dc.sunsets June 12, 2016 2:23 PM  

A market crash is inevitable given the altitude of asset prices driven skyward by unprecedented credit inflation.

Funny money is only temporary fuel, and more explosive than the hydrogen on which the mighty Hindenburg soared.

Blogger Andy Bannister June 12, 2016 2:33 PM  

@VD Here's a great article you might enjoy:
http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/for-europe-against-the-eu1/18432#.V12oEPQ4anM
(If you haven't yet discovered Spiked Online, it's got some of the best political writing I've seen in a long time).

Blogger residentMoron June 12, 2016 2:38 PM  

@35

You do know the Vatican is a nation-state, right?

Carry on ...

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 12, 2016 2:54 PM  

A market collapse is built into the cards. At this point they're looking for an event of person to blame it on, the way the Depression was blamed on Hoover and the Republican party.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 12, 2016 2:56 PM  

And it's not like they can't make money on the way down....

Blogger J.M. June 12, 2016 3:30 PM  

Salt wrote:ValeriusMaximus wrote:If the UK becomes a majority muslim country it won't matter if they are in or out of the EU.

Can't become a majority if there aren't any muslims.


Muslims started arriving long before EU played a role in shaping immigration policy. Remember the Pakis? Valerius is right, without replacing the current political class, in or out of EU Britain is screwed and deservedly so.

Blogger CJ June 12, 2016 4:08 PM  

If Brexit happens IMO the next one is Denmark. Dexit if you must.

Anonymous andon June 12, 2016 4:26 PM  

41. Blogger J.M. June 12, 2016 3:30 PM

Muslims started arriving long before EU played a role in shaping immigration policy. Remember the Pakis? Valerius is right, without replacing the current political class, in or out of EU Britain is screwed and deservedly so.


Brexit is just one step in the right direction. stay in the EU and they are prob done

OpenID herenvardo June 12, 2016 4:43 PM  

Fuck Oliver Cromwell.

That's all I can say. Couldn't you say Richard the Lionheart, or Henry V, even Alfred the Great?

Cromwell was a dictator, a butcher and a Regicide. Oh, and a Calvinist, too.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 12, 2016 4:54 PM  

You left out genocide.

Anonymous Steve Brown VFM June 12, 2016 5:37 PM  

So, is there someone here that will lead me to at least 2 good (one for, one against)articles that are more than opinion?

Blogger Rusty Fife June 12, 2016 6:06 PM  

Steve Brown VFM wrote:So, is there someone here that will lead me to at least 2 good (one for, one against)articles that are more than opinion?

What makes you think there is anything other than opinion?

The choice of whether to have a soveriegn nation or a lackey slave state is not a matter subject to logic. Any events that occur in the future are only forecasts and cannot be computed.

Blogger J Van Stry June 12, 2016 6:11 PM  

If Britain does leave the EU, do you think the rest of the EU will point to the US Civil War as an excuse to use violence to force Britain back into the Union?

I'm sure they'd love to, however, where will the get the army to do that?

Blogger Rusty Fife June 12, 2016 6:25 PM  

J Van Stry wrote:I'm sure they'd love to, however, where will the get the army to do that?

More importantly, where will they get the landing craft.

Blogger weka June 12, 2016 8:24 PM  

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Anonymous Steve Brown VFM June 13, 2016 6:31 AM  

@47 Thanks for your thoughts. Being from the US and not familiar with this, I was hoping for what good has come from Britain being part of the EU. And then what bad has come from it also. In other words, history, not projection into the future.

London is now a world leader in banking and finance. Seems leaving would create barriers with this segment of commerce. But, I would like to know the history--what happened when they joined the EU? Did it help this segment?

I certainly come down on the side of being a sovereign nation. But if the EU treats Britain like Britain has treated Ireland for the last 200 years, it won't be pretty.

Vox, since all the eyes have moved on, (you may be the only person who sees this comment) can you lead me to a good source of info on this?

Blogger James Dixon June 13, 2016 2:06 PM  

Cause for hope? http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-12/leave-takes-shocking-19-point-lead-brexit-poll-if-it-happens-gold-will-be-worlds-str

Anonymous andon June 15, 2016 4:19 PM  

52. Blogger James Dixon June 13, 2016 2:06 PM
Cause for hope? http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-12/leave-takes-shocking-19-point-lead-brexit-poll-if-it-happens-gold-will-be-worlds-str


im afraid they'll steal it no matter what. that Austrian guy who wanted to close the borders supposedly had a 10 point lead before the election.

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