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Friday, June 24, 2016

England and Wales choose freedom

The Fourth Reich is rejected by a narrow margin, 52 percent to 48 percent, thanks to the actual British people, who outvoted the invaders, the traitors, the sell-outs, and the Scots:
The English shires and Labour's northern heartlands led Britain out of the European Union in a victory for middle England.

Despite Britain's biggest cities backing a Remain vote at yesterday's historic referendum, the country overall headed for the Brexit door.

The results caused immediate turmoil in the markets as the pound collapsed by more than 10 per cent in the hours after the polls closed and the FTSE-100 braced for heavy losses.

Nigel Farage - who earlier appeared to concede defeat - made a jubilant victory speech at around 4am declaring it was a 'victory for ordinary people'.

Tory constituencies across the south and midlands voted for Brexit in huge numbers.

Places such as Wellingborough, West Somerset and Chesterfield all voted for leave by more 60 per cent.

The referendum map was painted blue for Out across vast swathes of England - despite London and Scotland being bright yellow.

Mr Farage told a jubilant Leave.EU rally in central London: 'Dare to dream that the dawn is breaking on an independent United Kingdom.

'This, if the predictions now are right, this will be a victory for real people, a victory for ordinary people, a victory for decent people.

'We have fought against the multinationals, we have fought against the big merchant banks, we have fought against big politics, we have fought against lies, corruption and deceit.

'And today honesty, decency and belief in nation, I think now is going to win.

'And we will have done it without having to fight, without a single bullet being fired, we'd have done it by damned hard work on the ground.'
Some thoughts on the successful #Brexit referendum.
  1. Nothing in his political career has become David Cameron like the manner of his leaving the Prime Ministership. He was dignified and graceful in defeat. I was genuinely surprised that he not only did the right thing, but did it very well. Even though he chose the wrong side and led the enemy charge, it must not be forgotten that he gave the British people their chance.
  2. The referendum was an exercise in the failure of Magic Dirt and why immigrants should never be granted the right to vote. Nor should their children or grandchildren. Few of them give a damn about Britain and it showed in their vote.
  3. Let Scotland hold their second referendum and then let them go. They are a huge political anchor that threatens England's very survival.
  4. The war isn't over. #Brexit is a victory, and an important one, but it was just a battle. The war goes on.
  5. "Remember Jo Cox" should be the response to anyone who calls for Parliament to ignore the clearly expressed will of the British people. If Parliament refuses to respect the referendum, violence will almost surely be among the various consequences.
  6. Bring on Fixit, Ixit, and Grexit! Nationalism has only begun to rise in Europe.

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148 Comments:

Anonymous VFMUltra June 24, 2016 4:22 AM  

Meme magic is real.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother June 24, 2016 4:24 AM  

I was also impressed with Cameron. He was true to his word and followed through with what Britons voted for.

Anonymous Brexiter June 24, 2016 4:28 AM  

Interesting times ahead for my country. Please pray for us as there will be a lot of people doing all they can to punish us for our decision. Great result though. Hopefully we will be leading the way.

Anonymous John Steed June 24, 2016 4:35 AM  

Just heard. GOOOOOOOO BRITSSSSSS!

Anonymous Steve June 24, 2016 4:35 AM  

Let Scotland hold their second referendum and then let them go. They are a huge political anchor that threatens England's very survival.

Sadly I think you're right. Scotland is SJW-occupied territory. The kindest and cruelest thing we can do for them is let them find out for themselves where their leftist political fantasies inevitably lead.

But this is a great day. Leaving the EU was always a necessary - but not sufficient - step towards reclaiming our country.

The first step is often the hardest, and this was hard. The entire political, media, trade union, public sector, and big business establishment has spent months trying to terrify impressionable voters with macabre tales of all the evils that would result from Brexit.

They all but literally leapt on top of that murdered MP's body to denounce the Leave campaign as the "politics of hate".

This is a victory for all faithful, stolid Britons who refused to be cowed by slander and fear. But one man deserves more credit than most.

Arise, Sir Nigel!

Anonymous GRY June 24, 2016 4:36 AM  

The NWO and banksters as well as Germany are not going to allow the British to exit without significant cost. You can bet there is going to be payback by the Soros supported puppets at Muppet HQ in Brussels...

Anonymous John Steed June 24, 2016 4:38 AM  

Say... Wasn`t the tune ``Shot Heard Around The World`` a British one to start with?

Blogger Servant of the Chief June 24, 2016 4:40 AM  

I was gratified at how contested the Northern Irish vote was. The nationalists would not have nearly voted for remain as much as they have if it were not for Sinn Fein's machinations.

Now if only I could have a hope that there'd be a push in Ireland for leaving as well...

Anonymous Moonbear June 24, 2016 4:45 AM  

I find it comforting to know I was not the only one who had exactly the same thoughts as you did this morning VD.
As the sun rises on a beautiful summer morning and bestows it's beautiful warming rays across the British isle like an endearing embrace, one like only the free can know -- one sees the long shadows across Europe and realizes this is only the start of the fight for freedom and independence.
Many have no voice, speak loud and clear so other people too can feel their cheeks moistened by the tears brought on by the happiness of true freedom and independence.
We salute you in your conquest -- while our hour of great need loom above us we no longer despair, hope is dawning across Europe and no doubt our brothers across the vast and cold ocean feels this heartwarming ray of hope and will join us in this fight.

OpenID luciussomesuch June 24, 2016 4:45 AM  

May Britain be a beacon-- and adumbrate a Trumpening to come!

May the Royal Navy enjoy destroyers that are deployable to the Persian Gulf-- but don't.

May the doors be shut upon Pakistan, that they may play the Paki nowhere but in their own house.

Make London White again!--and may Paris swiftly follow!

Blogger Shimshon June 24, 2016 4:49 AM  

Build that big, beautiful, and...dare I say it?...yuge wall!

Anonymous TheP6 June 24, 2016 4:51 AM  

"Bring on Fixit, Ixit, and Grexit! Nationalism has only begun to rise in Europe." - Amen. But please don't leave Ukraine alone with Russia. It will be the end for us.

Anonymous Rona June 24, 2016 4:51 AM  

Wonderful first step to real independence and nation-state. Congratulations to English and Welsh people. Divorce from Scotland. Let its political establishment burn to the ground in the EU. Then patriotic Scots can begin rebuilding their nation.

Blogger Human Animal June 24, 2016 4:51 AM  

They're sinking in globalist mud. It's past their knees and they've realized it's more than their boots at risk, but their life.

Electing Trump means America will be there to offer a rope and help haul the UK out of the mud and back to its feet.

I have hope for the futur- wait, wait a minute.


@benrileysmith
HOW AGES VOTED
(YouGov poll)
18-24: 75% Remain
25-49: 56% Remain
50-64: 44% Remain
65+: 39% Remain


Oh no.

Anonymous Patron June 24, 2016 4:54 AM  

@5 I'm still hoping that Scotland can remain a part of the UK to be honest. I'm British, not English.

I do wonder if a more federal system in the UK would work. If Westminster paid for the armed forces etc and let Scotland (or the individual Scottish counties etc) pay for their profligate government (or not), things might work out. Maybe give them a lump sum as "North Sea oil money" just to shut them up about that :P .

---

Also, I think it's Saint Nigel ;) .

Blogger Sherwood family June 24, 2016 4:56 AM  

It is a good idea to let Scotland go. It should run its own affairs and should pay for them too.

Anonymous Steve June 24, 2016 4:57 AM  

Patron - St Nigel the Eurodragonslayer :)

Cheers!

Blogger Shimshon June 24, 2016 4:59 AM  

According to this article, Cameron would've resigned had Scotland voted for SEXIT then. In hindsight, that loss served the far greater good of BREXIT. His successor would almost certainly never have kept that promise. It will possibly even be a twofer, as Scotland will very likely secede the second time around if an election is called again.

Blogger Dave June 24, 2016 5:00 AM  

Trump odds up 8%. Trump in UK to do presser about Brexit between 10-11am.

Buy the pound people, it will rally.

OpenID luciussomesuch June 24, 2016 5:00 AM  

Scotland's fiercely patriotic (though ethnically half-Jewish) and Catholic Italian-émigré novelist Muriel Spark's Dostoevskyan novel "The Driver's Seat" provides a terrifyingly apt paradigm for the death wish of the godless Continent.

The SJW (no true?) Scots should read it and take the lesson.

Blogger Dire Badger June 24, 2016 5:01 AM  

And in other news, J.K. Rowling has again proved that her greatest product is snark, nastiness, and hatred of anything resembling freedom.

Anonymous Bobby Farr June 24, 2016 5:02 AM  

How much is this likely to help the UK's immigration problem? They can get rid of the Poles now and pull up the drawbridge before Germany's hordes arrive but most of the problem seems to be British rather than EU in origin - massive numbers of third worlders from the Commonwealth.

OpenID luciussomesuch June 24, 2016 5:04 AM  

(émigré-TO-Italy: what's the proper construction for that?).

I suppose self-righteous Sandy Stranger, the fascinatingly spooky protégé and nemesis of Miss Jean Brodie, may provide a neat sort of paradigm for the Scots SJW mentality, even as Sandy, high on Calvin and Freud and screwing Jean Brodie's great love, finally became a rather crazy sort of nun.

Blogger Dire Badger June 24, 2016 5:10 AM  

@12-
Sorry man, but right now the Ukraine is like the pretty little dope pusher that just got sent to prison.
The Question is, who's bitch do you want to be?

Blogger Kona Commuter June 24, 2016 5:10 AM  

Just saw on Australian News that this is the worst thing ever. Panic but don't panic.

LMAO - I see all this fearmongering as a warning to those other countries that want out

Blogger Jamie-R June 24, 2016 5:12 AM  

Fixit, Ixit, and Grexit

From a tweet that nailed it, it's Grexit, Departugal, Italeave, Czechout, Oustria, Finish, Slovakout, Latervia, Byegium. Only Remania will stay

OpenID luciussomesuch June 24, 2016 5:14 AM  

"How much is this likely to help the UK's immigration problem?"

That jungle in Calais' rationale for existence is to break into Britain. One less welfare-sponge for the orc hordes is bound to have a domino effect across Europe.

The "South Asians", though barbarous and un-British, may perhaps be credited with a bit more sense than boat-fresh rapefugees. Which is why I'm hopeful they pay good attention to their tea leaves. The moral effect of the vote alone should be worth something. As Connie says in The Godfather, Part III: "Now they'll fear you."

But a new government, let us pray, will be worth much more yet. May Britain Bonny Again!

Blogger JACIII June 24, 2016 5:15 AM  

Congratulations to any Brits who are ilkish bent. Stand strong and watchful for you will now see your enemy's naked blades.

If we can begin to throw off our own globalists I believe you will see some help arriving from your West.

Has Britain been declared unsafe for Jews yet?

Anonymous Bobby Farr June 24, 2016 5:16 AM  

@25 Well, the initial financial reaction is pretty bad but the pound has already wiped out 1/3 of its losses. I am hoping the markets quickly shrug this off and Soros is further discredited (and loses a ton on the bearish investments he loaded up on).

Anonymous redsash June 24, 2016 5:16 AM  

Invaders, traitors, and sell outs. That's a great line. My hope is that a President Trump deals with the same in America. Walk out or be carried out feet first.

Blogger Sherwood family June 24, 2016 5:19 AM  

TheP6: If Ukraine wants things to get better it needs to get out of the Donbass and let Lugansk and Donetsk go. Then it can get on with its own affairs and let the Russians figure out what to do with that territory. Those people aren't Ukrainians anyway.

The EU can't help and the U.S. won't (despite its promises).

My advice: Make nice with the neighbors, don't base any missiles, and get busy cracking down on corruption. That's the best way forward. It is not easy but it is the only thing that is going to help.

Blogger Todd Miller June 24, 2016 5:20 AM  

Very good news. I had resigned to write England off if they didn't leave. Now, perhaps, they have a chance.

Anonymous Moonbear June 24, 2016 5:40 AM  

The cliffs of Dover just got 10 feet taller, believe me!

Anonymous foo3 June 24, 2016 5:40 AM  

> The "South Asians", though barbarous and un-British,

They are two kinds, Indo-Aryans and Paki-Muslim-Mids. They are both classified as "South Asians", which is LOL-worthy, since they aren't Asian at all. (and this ignores Dravidians, a separate entirely).

All of terror and barbarism in the UK is from the Muslim Muds. None (0% to be exact) is from the Aryans.

Blogger Dave June 24, 2016 5:48 AM  

Trump Brexit statement: https://t.co/GwWRxT3BVp

Blogger Krul June 24, 2016 5:50 AM  

"Let Scotland hold their second referendum and then let them go. They are a huge political anchor that threatens England's very survival."

"Hadrian's Wall just got ten feet higher."

Anonymous TheP6 June 24, 2016 5:54 AM  

@24

I prefer to die than. I think my nation had enough of beinging someones slave. Better end it for good.

Anonymous Ronnie June 24, 2016 5:54 AM  

Vox, any chance of Italy breaking free?

Blogger Human Animal June 24, 2016 5:54 AM  

Trump Brexit statement: https://t.co/GwWRxT3BVp
It Will Soon Be Time To Believe In America Again


Soon.

Anonymous JAG June 24, 2016 5:54 AM  

I'm of Scottish heritage and I must say that I was very disappointed in my ancestral homeland's modern day welfare leeches. It used to be that Scots invented shit that made the world better, but now they are just a bunch of socialist tit sucking wankers. Oh well, at least Brexit won so I'm not going to let it beat me down too much.

Blogger Lazarus June 24, 2016 5:55 AM  

Rotherham Votes 68-32 for Leave

Anonymous Opus June 24, 2016 5:59 AM  

Yes!!!!! Just as I predicted. Wonderful statement from Trump - put a lump in my throat.

Anonymous TheP6 June 24, 2016 5:59 AM  

@31

Probably, but I don't think it will stop Russia. Besides we need those territory for resources, natural, not human ones. But hell, we can't do that right now, so your proposition is probably the only choice. And yes, you are right those people aren't Ukrainians anymore. By blood maybe, but not by mind and soul.

Thanks for answering.

Blogger JACIII June 24, 2016 6:07 AM  

JAG wrote:I'm of Scottish heritage and I must say that I was very disappointed in my ancestral homeland's modern day welfare leeches. It used to be that Scots invented shit that made the world better, but now they are just a bunch of socialist tit sucking wankers. Oh well, at least Brexit won so I'm not going to let it beat me down too much.

The only True Scotsmen left over 150 years ago. The remainers are the dregs.

Anonymous JAG June 24, 2016 6:07 AM  

And yeah... Trump's statement on Brexit... Fuckin' A!

Blogger Lovekraft June 24, 2016 6:11 AM  

Be ready to see colossal doubling down by the marxists as their positions in media, academia, government etc become exposed. Watch the demonization of white Christians and the worship of blacks and browns explode.

There is no true democracy on the community level as long as sjws control the narrative. This narrative only divides as it tries to force an unnatural affectation between alien cultures and races.

The near future is going to see an explosion in red pill truths, while also a blatant media campaign of censorship and lies.

We the Ilk and Minions are prepared in spades. Veterans of this phase of the culture war. Those who mocked or ignored us will deserve contempt, but we will leave them a path to take.

Blogger Lovekraft June 24, 2016 6:13 AM  

On the matter of the Scottish. My experience and observation is they are the prison guards of the west. They used to be the stewards, but over the past couple decades they failed to recognize that public respect for these people has disappeared as they, mentioned above, turned prison guards for their own people.

Their older women are reallllly cranky too. Avoid.

Anonymous Shut up rabbit June 24, 2016 6:15 AM  

The only reason I hear for Remain is, "muh, its what our leaders want and I'm scared of change."

A non-UK European I know said they were disappointed in the vote. I asked why was it better to be in EU. They replied, "It's easier to travel without passports and changing money." While neither is too much of a bother I did point out that:
A. They holiday almost exclusively within their own native land, and
B. The other european countries they do go to are UK (which is EU) where a passport and money are needed and Switzerland (which isn't EU) where neither are.

Their lived experience actually contradicts their feelz yet they still chooses feelz over realz. Most "Remain"-tards are in love with an idea of EUrope that doesn't actually exist. The elites take advantage of this belief to impose more and more regulations and limit more and more freedoms of an ever increasing number of people replacing those that wont accept it with low IQ dependent immigrants who will in the process.

Blogger JACIII June 24, 2016 6:16 AM  

TheP6 wrote:@31

Probably, but I don't think it will stop Russia. Besides we need those territory for resources, natural, not human ones. But hell, we can't do that right now, so your proposition is probably the only choice. And yes, you are right those people aren't Ukrainians anymore. By blood maybe, but not by mind and soul.

Thanks for answering.


Y'all have been beat up, starved, abused, and abandoned more than any other polity in modern history. What the hell is the deal? Why does everyone want to fuck up Ukrainians???

Blogger Dave June 24, 2016 6:17 AM  

Tucker Carlson is talking about nationalism and virtue-signalling. Waiting for Trump's presser.

Blogger WrenchTurner June 24, 2016 6:19 AM  

Three Cheers for The Union Jack Huzzah Huzzah Huzzah

Blogger peter blandings June 24, 2016 6:27 AM  

England has shocked the world. in the body of western civilization, at long last, a pulse has been detected. celebrate tonight; arm in the morning.

OpenID simplytimothy June 24, 2016 6:27 AM  

The English shires and Labour's northern heartlands led Britain out of the European Union in a victory for middle England.

Because there is some good in this world Mr. Frodo, and it is worth fighting for.

Blogger Dire Badger June 24, 2016 6:28 AM  

@37-
That's a good start. Proving you are willing to kill or die to rule yourself is the only way to avoid being someone's bitch. But better you should let the other fellow prove he is willing to die.

Ukraine needs to grow a forest of Gallows for it's own corrupt government, who freely rob it's people in order to suck at the foreign tit.

Remember, the best way to prove you are willing to die for your freedom is to encourage the ones who would take it away to prove that they are willing to die for the privilege, again and again.

Blogger peter blandings June 24, 2016 6:29 AM  

Why does everyone want to fuck up Ukrainians???
because the only time ukrainian men aren't drunk is when they're in jail.

Blogger Dire Badger June 24, 2016 6:30 AM  

@40- No more dissapointed than I when Utah overwhelmingly voted for Ted 'business as usual' Cruz.
Scotland still has a shot, there are still some men there. They may be outnumbered, but they are never outclassed.

Blogger Krul June 24, 2016 6:32 AM  

Ukraine

Anonymous meh June 24, 2016 6:34 AM  

They are two kinds, Indo-Aryans and Paki-Muslim-Mids. They are both classified as "South Asians", which is LOL-worthy, since they aren't Asian at all. (and this ignores Dravidians, a separate entirely).

They are Asian. Look at a map. Asian is a geographic, not an ethnographic, term. We Americans have this weird idea that "Asian" means only and exclusively East Asians, because they were the only Asians we were familiar with from personal experience prior to the 1965 immigration act. But South Asian is an actual thing. Central Asian is an actual thing. West Asian is an actual thing.

It is a good idea to let Scotland go. It should run its own affairs and should pay for them too.

But they don't actually want to pay for it, that's the point to grasp. They wanted out of the UK but to remain in the EU, so that they could spite the English without losing their transfer payments - England would have continued to pay off Scotland, but via the EU rather than directly, so long as the UK remained in the EU.

But with the UK leaving the EU do the Scots actually want to vote to leave the UK, and then reapply to join the EU, at a point in the near future when the EU may be falling apart and disintegrating? Even if the EU survives in some form it is unlikely to continue to be the gravy train for smaller, poorer member states that it currently is.

So Scotland just might remain in the UK to continue to leech off of the English. The current Scots aren't really as big into self-rule (and paying their own way) as they claim.

Blogger W.LindsayWheeler June 24, 2016 6:42 AM  

People, Need to start thinking about ending the 1965 Immigration Act. Need to Rescind it! It was an act of Treason and Genocide and so invalid. It has to go.

Blogger Stilicho June 24, 2016 6:47 AM  

Yes, Wheeler, we've been discussing that for some time. We"re working on it. See, e.g. Trump candidacy.

Blogger Cataline Sergius June 24, 2016 6:51 AM  

David Cameron was basically Mitt with better hair.

He was the right-winger that the right wing didn't really want but the party said he smelled like a winner so they went with him.

Glad he took the high road when he left.

Anonymous Bobby Farr June 24, 2016 7:03 AM  

@61. No way. Mitt had much better hair than Cameron.

Anonymous Patron June 24, 2016 7:09 AM  

@61

I agree that I'd have liked a Tory PM more in the mould of the Iron Lady or the great Victorian PMs, but in all fairness to Cameron, he promised us a referendum, he delivered it, and he's done the right thing. He deserves applause for that if nothing else.


"It's nice to elect the right people, but that isn't the way you solve things. The way you solve things is by making it politically profitable for the wrong people to do the right things."
-Milton Friedman


I rather suspect that quote fits David Cameron to a T.

Blogger Jack Aubrey June 24, 2016 7:12 AM  

Terrific news. England and Wales, Making Britain Great Again.

Anonymous Faceless June 24, 2016 7:24 AM  

Three cheers for the St. George's Cross, and God bless the funny people beyond the marches. Now, Parliament needs to remove Charles from inheriting the crown and make the simple but good William and his pretty wife the next monarchs.

A little song from the boys from Bradford, that went for Leave by 9 points: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCCDeppmJCU

I will refrain from posting pictures of England's greatest assets wrapped in the red and white, but we can think of Keeley Hazell today.

Anonymous Moonbear June 24, 2016 7:30 AM  

So is anyone well versed in economy and have some sort of insight into how much this vote will hurt the will of future prospective leavers chances to leave the EU?

Blogger Glen June 24, 2016 7:34 AM  

French and German markets are currently down significantly more than UK. A good sign that reality is setting in.

Blogger Nate June 24, 2016 7:35 AM  

"Oh no."

You can't just look at those numbers and draw any conclusions. Many of the invaders are under 50. Likely most of them.

Blogger Caladan June 24, 2016 7:36 AM  

Interesting to see 'Old white people' blamed by dimwitted millennials on social media, particularly Twitter.

Similarly interesting to see 'xenophobia' held as the main reason we horrible Brexiters voted to Leave, despite the dozens of national debates in which arguments for both sides were presented by some of the most important people in the country.

Nope, we're all just afraid of Mister Kebab [with good reason, I must say]


As I've always said, if Instagram is distilled narcissism, Twitter is distilled stupidity.

Turns out that giving the masses a voice isn't a good idea, after all.

Most of the great things done in the world have been done by a minority of people, with the dimwits and midwits following along.

Now, excuse me while I sweeten my tea with Merkel's tears

Anonymous Quartermaster June 24, 2016 7:40 AM  

I'm sure Nigel Farage is enjoying his nice, long soak in Internationalist tears.

Blogger sconzey June 24, 2016 7:44 AM  

Let Scotland hold their second referendum and then let them go. They are a huge political anchor that threatens England's very survival.

What with the oil and the Barnett formula, there's little love lost between the English and the Scots. We joke that if the English had a vote in the Scottish Referendum, it would have gone the other way.

Blogger Sherwood family June 24, 2016 7:45 AM  

TheP6,

I lived in Eastern Ukraine and the Donbass for awhile. I was in Donetsk for the better part of a year and also spent a year in Kharkov and several months in Zaparozhiya. Trust me, Donetsk was never "Ukrainian" at least not in the same sense of the term that is meant on the west side of the Dniepr.

As to resources: there is coal out there. But...and here is the point...it's probably cheaper to buy it from an autonomous or Russian-aligned Donbass than it is to continue to wage an unwinnable war for it.

Ukraine's problem since independence has not been the Russians. The problem has been a culture of corruption that has to be rooted out.

The average Ukrainian doesn't like it. But he plays by the "rules" because he has too. Part of the reason for the Maidan was trying to head in a new direction and I respect that.

Frankly, I don't know how you guys are going to solve the corruption problem. Ukraine has to figure out how to make that happen. But until it is done Russia is always going to be a secondary (though serious) issue.

Blogger Orville June 24, 2016 7:49 AM  

A toast to my cousins in Nottingham and the village of Arnold! Well done.

Blogger rumpole5 June 24, 2016 7:51 AM  

I am delighted. That little corner of an island, and its stubborn, pretentious, wonderful inhabitants have done more to civilize and advance the peoples of this earth than ANY other nation on this earth! GOD SAVE ENGLAND! GOD SAVE THE QUEEN!

Anonymous Steve June 24, 2016 7:55 AM  

Oh no.

Young people more easily hoodwinked by lefty nonsense SHOCKER.

Blogger Avalanche June 24, 2016 7:57 AM  

Vox: "Bring on Fixit, Ixit, and Grexit!"

Is TEXit next? There's a getting-bigger-all-the-time movement down in Texas!

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus June 24, 2016 7:58 AM  

Awesome results.

Incidentally, the pattern of Leave support by county shows the same overall patterns seen in British politics since 1640. Culture is a wonderfully persistent thing.

Blogger Avalanche June 24, 2016 7:59 AM  

{Wonder if the Queen is crying or applauding?)

Anonymous TheP6 June 24, 2016 8:01 AM  

@72

Sherwood family,

Hmm... Really, coal from poor independent Donbass would be very cheap. I never thought about that. You are absolutely right. Thank you for great thoughts.

Blogger FALPhil June 24, 2016 8:02 AM  

@43 TheP6
Probably, but I don't think it will stop Russia.

Russia is not the one that needs stopping. If the USA had not destabilized the democratically elected government of Ukraine, we would not be having this discussion. US foreign policy based on the Wolfowitz Doctrine is part and parcel of what is driving the concept of the EU and neofeudalism.

If you are going to have an oligarchy, you cannot have cohesive nations wanting self-determination.

Anonymous TheP6 June 24, 2016 8:03 AM  

@54

Your solution is way more effective. Thanks for kind words.

Anonymous Dack Thrombosis June 24, 2016 8:05 AM  

Lots of griping about Muh Markets today. I wonder what the most hysterical online comment is?

Anonymous Rona June 24, 2016 8:11 AM  

Sherwood family wrote:TheP6: If Ukraine wants things to get better it needs to get out of the Donbass and let Lugansk and Donetsk go. Then it can get on with its own affairs and let the Russians figure out what to do with that territory. Those people aren't Ukrainians anyway.

The EU can't help and the U.S. won't (despite its promises).

My advice: Make nice with the neighbors, don't base any missiles, and get busy cracking down on corruption. That's the best way forward. It is not easy but it is the only thing that is going to help.


I'm on the side of Ukraine but I don't see how they can hold on to those territories against Russia long term. Not with a hostile population. Only way would be to deport the pro-Russians and that spells war.

As for the other, they are in the same place as us Croats. State corruption from top to bottom. You would literally need to dismember entire political establishment to really fix anything.

Politicians of party A sell native resources and steal millions while in power. Party B exposes the corruption, wins elections and steal millions while selling of more national resources. Both sacrifice a few members who spend some time in jail and them retire with the remaining loot.

I favor instituting death penalty for conviction of looting 5,000 EUR or more. Like the Chinese. Public execution, no mercy.

Blogger David Power June 24, 2016 8:14 AM  

The torrential rain was so bad here in London yesterday, it defiantly played its part.

Woke up today to a lovely sunny London, a Leave majority and Trump holding court in his ancecstorial homeland.

For the first time in decades, it really does feel like God is in his heaven and all's right with the world.

Anonymous SciVo June 24, 2016 8:22 AM  

Moonbear wrote:So is anyone well versed in economy and have some sort of insight into how much this vote will hurt the will of future prospective leavers chances to leave the EU?

Hurt? Quite the opposite; it will help by comforting the nervous types. The fearmongering was so shrill, anything less than the British Isles tilting into the sea and sliding under the waves would be anticlimactic.

People are always afraid of the unknown. When the sky above and earth below remain in their respective places, the financial markets settle down, and the grocery market shelves continue to be re-stocked, I think the general reaction of other potential Leavers will be "oh, that wasn't so bad then. When's our vote?"

Blogger Salt June 24, 2016 8:31 AM  

The multiculti will never give up. It's just the beginning.

https://www.change.org/p/sadiq-khan-declare-london-independent-from-the-uk-and-apply-to-join-the-eu

Blogger tz June 24, 2016 8:33 AM  

This is the declaration, revolt against Brussels sprouts.

We need to try the #Southexit and #Texit, and #Rockiexit here.

Blogger allyn71 June 24, 2016 8:33 AM  

To all you wonderful Limey bastards:

Hip, Hip, Hurrah.

God Save the Queen

Anonymous TheP6 June 24, 2016 8:34 AM  

@80 FALPhil

For us, we should stop Russia first, because if we lose our independence we can not solve inner problems like corruption. If could achieve autonomous status in Russia it would be no problem. But history shows that it is not possible. US has not such influence over Ukraine as Russia. If we get stronger dealing with US influence will be easier. But maybe I'm being to naive.

@83

Rona,

Yes, and it will be better if we had authoritarian regime for a while, to make things right. But I don't think that we have the right, not corrupted, virtuous elites for that. At least not now.

Thanks for all of you who answered me. It was nice conversation.

Lets drop Ukraine-related discussion for now and celebrate Brexit, celebrate it's courageous citizens who bravely said collectively "F#@K YOU" to EuropeanSSR, its twisted worldview and even worse politics. Cheers!

Anonymous crushlimbraw June 24, 2016 8:50 AM  

Great insight, Vox - as you called a Leave win when all sources said Remain - except one, and it was major - last night before I went to bed, I checked the futures markets - the Dow and S&P were down huge - someone, besides Vox, knew something - so I told my wife "Dang, Vox is right!"
Well done. sir!

Anonymous andon June 24, 2016 8:54 AM  

2.The referendum was an exercise in the failure of Magic Dirt and why immigrants should never be granted the right to vote. Nor should their children or grandchildren.Few of them give a damn about Britain and it showed in their vote.

exactly. they are just parasites.

as for cameron (and blair), a traitor is a traitor.

Anonymous Takin' a Look June 24, 2016 8:57 AM  

Congrats to the U.K.

Anonymous SciVo June 24, 2016 8:58 AM  

meh wrote:They are Asian. Look at a map.

Tt's a transparent euphemism to avoid being honest about which people have actual rape cultures, because then native Europeans might want to remove kebab, and then fewer little white girls would get gang-raped, and that would make all the SJWs in England very, very sad.

If they couldn't show their devotion to political correctness by sacrificing other people's daughters on the altar of diversity, how could they signal their virtue?

Anonymous SciVo June 24, 2016 9:09 AM  

Salt wrote:The multiculti will never give up. It's just the beginning.

Declare London independent from the UK and apply to join the EU.


I can't believe my eyes. Are they actually signing their real names to a petition advocating insurrection against the Crown? Every time I think SJWs have pulled the most outrageously ignorant stunt possible, they top themselves.

Anonymous Claymore June 24, 2016 9:09 AM  

Yea!

Anonymous Quartermaster June 24, 2016 9:09 AM  

@72
You didn't live in the Donbas long enough to make such a judgment and haven't paid attention to history or the people themselves.

The war was started by the infiltration of GRU officers who had spearheaded the theft of Crimea. Both Luhansk and Donetsk oblasts voted for independence by wide margins. Even the Crimea voted for independence with Ukraine by a wide margin, although the narrowest of the entire country. By the judgment of the Ukrainian voters themselves, the Donbas is Ukrainian.

So, no, there is nothing to trust and Russia needs to end its invasion and quit trying to re-establish the Tsarist empire. Until Putinist Russia ends its efforts in the Donbas, the corruption issue will take second billing. Putin is attempting to end Ukraines National existence, and he has made it pretty clear that's his intention.

@76
I think the future of the US as a political union is pretty dark. Had Lincoln behaved himself, the future would probably be much brighter. But DC's behavior is much like that of Brussels, and is just as deserving of the contempt of free peoples every where.

@79
Putin will never allow the Donbas independence. Poor or otherwise.

@80
Too many people think the US was the one that destabilized Ukraine, or overthrew Yanukovich. If you wish to believe Russian propaganda, then I guess that's true. The people on the Maidan came from all over Ukraine in response to Yanukovich attempting to sell the country to Putin. From the standpoint of the US, it matters little of Ukraine is in the Russian orbit and the US gained nothing from the removal of the man Ukrainians believed was betraying them into Russian hands.

Yanukovich is a wanted man in Ukraine for giving the orders to the Berkut to kill protestors on the Maidan. He ran to his buddy in Moscow, who quickly gave him Russian citizenship to prevent his extradition to Kiev to face justice for his actions. Much of the Berkut ran as well.

@83
Since that “hostile population” has included GRU officers and Russian troops, you are correct. At this point, the indications I get from the Donbas and Crimea, if Russia removes its Army, both regions would go back to Ukraine in a heart beat. The people of both regions have seen the Russians for what they are.

@89
I applaud the UK vote to leave the EU. I also pray that your country will be able to overcome Russia and solve your national problems. Alas, I'm afraid, however, that corruption will be with us until Christ arrives to rule, given the fallen state of man.

Anonymous Auslandsdeutscher June 24, 2016 9:10 AM  

Stop calling the EU the fourth Reich. The first three Reichs were German empires, created for and by Germans, while the EU is trying to destroy the German nation.

"We have done it not just for ourself; We have done it for all of Europe" Nigel Farage, today at 4am

Blogger Bill Halsey June 24, 2016 9:15 AM  

@78 "Wonder if the Queen is crying or applauding?"

Probably dancing a jig with a glass of champagne in hand behind closed doors:

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/06/22/her-majesty-the-eurosceptic-queen-eu-courts-denigrate-britain-by-protecting-terrorists/

Anonymous Satan's Hamster June 24, 2016 9:29 AM  

"It used to be that Scots invented shit that made the world better, but now they are just a bunch of socialist tit sucking wankers."

Scotland only joined the UK because they'd trashed their economy and wanted a bailout. The English have been bailing them out ever since.

If they'd had the balls of the English and voted 'leave' at the last referendum, this one wouldn't even have happened. So their desire for perpetual handouts did something useful in the end.

Though my left-wing Brit relatives are now saying 'yes, it may be a majority, but it's only a small majority, it shouldn't count, should it?' Bet they wouldn't be saying the same if the vote had gone the other way.

Anonymous BGKB June 24, 2016 9:45 AM  

Nothing in his political career has become David Cameron like the manner of his leaving the Prime Ministership. He was dignified

The British people might have to stop defending the value of douche bags when Cameron is called one.

Remember Jo Cox" should be said by those dancing a jig on her grave. Remember all the dancing the day Thatcher died.

Ukraine...My advice: Make nice with the neighbors, don't base any missiles, and get busy cracking down on corruption

TheP6 Offer some spiked cocaine to Biden's son who is in charge of your natural gas.

Why does everyone want to fuck up Ukrainians???

They stacked up 33 tons of gold which paid Soros back for the coup.

Oh no. If they deport Latrina's 21 crackbabies X10,000 those numbers will look different.

They are Asian. Look at a map.

When people talk about southerners they don't mean Brazil. No one that hears the words Asian Civilization together thinks you are talking about Pakis.

Blogger J.M. June 24, 2016 9:47 AM  

Jamie-R wrote:Fixit, Ixit, and Grexit

From a tweet that nailed it, it's Grexit, Departugal, Italeave, Czechout, Oustria, Finish, Slovakout, Latervia, Byegium. Only Remania will stay


You all forgot the most important...Gexit or should it be Deuxit

Blogger szopen June 24, 2016 9:47 AM  

@96
I have never been in Ukraine, but in my facebook feed I have one Russian girl from Donetsk (or Donbas? It started with Do, anyway..) and I read the discussion she had with her friends (also from the same region). Whether this region voted for independence twenty years ago is immaterial. They are now uniformly for unification with Russia. Let them go.

@22
[b]They can get rid of the Poles now[/b]
Please do. I am Polish leaving in Poland - and if UK would kick out all Poles that would be great. Poland faces demographic catastrophe right now; two millions of young Poles left the country. Forcing at least some of them to return would help us avert the imminent danger. Not to mention would constitute a huge pressure on a corrupt system.

Blogger szopen June 24, 2016 9:52 AM  

@101
I am Polish leaving in Poland
LIVING, dammit. I wish there would be an edit option available.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 24, 2016 9:54 AM  

Auslandsdeutscher wrote:Stop calling the EU the fourth Reich. The first three Reichs were German empires, created for and by Germans, while the EU is trying to destroy the German nation.

Call it Der Bankenreich if you wish. It's still a German-dominated pan-European state.

Blogger frenchy June 24, 2016 10:04 AM  

Thank God Diebold machines were not used to record the votes. I find it amazing, or rather telling, that they could use paper ballots and still be able to count them in a timely, and from my observation, and honest manner.

Blogger praetorian June 24, 2016 10:10 AM  

Great insight, Vox

Vox' twitter feed last night was the ONLY place you could find actual empirical analysis of the vote as it was ongoing. Everything else was just a straight LEAVE/STAY graph, hysterics or both.

Truly, the media is worthless.

Blogger psychegram June 24, 2016 10:11 AM  

Good on ye, mates. EU delenda est.

Anonymous Jim Scrummy June 24, 2016 10:20 AM  

Huzzah! Great job Brits!

Anonymous Rhetoric Man June 24, 2016 10:23 AM  

"Truly, the media is worthless."

That's decidedly false. The devil is in the details.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/23/world/europe/brexit-consequences.html

Blogger J.M. June 24, 2016 10:29 AM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:Auslandsdeutscher wrote:Stop calling the EU the fourth Reich. The first three Reichs were German empires, created for and by Germans, while the EU is trying to destroy the German nation.

Call it Der Bankenreich if you wish. It's still a German-dominated pan-European state.


Yeah, because a bunch of internationalist Bankers from at least 15 countries is really German dominated. In this case German is more a Golem than a master, just to be used and discarded when the time is right.

Blogger J.M. June 24, 2016 10:30 AM  

* In this case Germany is more a Golem than a master, just to be used and discarded when the time is right.

Blogger Joe Doakes June 24, 2016 10:30 AM  

If Scotland voted to break away from England to join the EU, there's real potential for humor. Greece wanted German bailout money and when they didn’t get it, they opened the floodgates sending young single Muslim men North in hordes. Scotland will want German bailout money too, and if they don’t get it, will Scotland open its arms to “refugees” who will waltz across the border into England, bypassing the Calais bottleneck? Might be time to start rebuilding Hadrian’s Wall!

Anonymous Credo in Unum Deum June 24, 2016 10:32 AM  

Damn Scots! They ruined Scotland!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iusUq4-f5U

Blogger James Dixon June 24, 2016 10:43 AM  

> {Wonder if the Queen is crying or applauding?)

Probably both. Tears of pride and joy.

Congratulations to all the Brits who voted to be free and independent from a tyrannical foreign government.

Blogger James Dixon June 24, 2016 10:48 AM  

Oh, and it goes without saying, but: Nigel Farage for PM.

Blogger Alexander June 24, 2016 11:04 AM  

Scotland must go:

Case 1. The calls among Scots for independence are genuine. In which case, they have every right to be an independent nation and should be so.

Case 2. The calls among Scots for independence are purely self-serving political ploys, designed to scare England into doing X on any given day. In which case, they are a bad faith partner and England must walk away from the table. No deal!

In either case, it is obvious that the majorities in both nations have very different ideas of what the future ought to bring. England needs to tell Scotland so long, and England must tell N. Ireland that she's free to unify with Ireland, go her own way, or accept an EU-free future.

Blogger Latigo3 June 24, 2016 11:06 AM  

Congratulations to the people of Great Britain.

You gave us the Magna Carta and now you have given us June 23rd. You stuck it to the One World crowd.

I woke up very happy today. What a great day.

Anonymous 43rd Virginia Cavalry June 24, 2016 11:41 AM  

Bring on Texit

Blogger Elder Son June 24, 2016 11:56 AM  

@43 TheP6: You should be more worried about becoming the U.S. State Dept. bitch. Because that is exactly what Ukraine has become.

State Dept./CIA/Soros meddling in your country AKA Orange Revolution, was never about your free-dumb and libertard. It has always been about a preemptive attempt in removing Russia's Black Sea Fleet from Crimea, the gateway to the Mediterranean Sea, the gateway to Syria. You, and the Ukraine people's, have been played.

I really hope you don't believe that Russia has any aspirations of retaking Eastern Europe, via Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, as pounded into Eastern European dead-heads by State Dept./USNATO. The only reason why USNATO is pushing up on Russia's borders, is because Russia has been a thorn in the side of the very globalists that you claim to despise.

Get it, that USNATO has become, by its very nature, a tool for the globalists. All this crying that Russia is beefing up its military, creating 6 new divisions to put on its Eastern front, shouldn't be looked at as so unpredictable, when "Russia is moving its country closer and closer to USNATO armed forces".

Stop being such a damn globalist cheerleader. Because that is exactly what one is when cheering on NATO.

Blogger Elder Son June 24, 2016 12:19 PM  

But of course! Who would've thunk it?

FLASHBACK: UK Prime Minister Cameron Warns Brexit From EU Could Lead to WORLD WAR

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/06/flashback-uk-prime-minister-cameron-warns-brexit-eu-lead-world-war/

I happened to preemptively twittered this very thought yesterday at #Brexit.

Kindling a little spark with Russia could bring about a, "How could we have been so stupid!" And the globalists are evil enough to do it.

Blogger Elder Son June 24, 2016 12:22 PM  

And don't think for a moment that David Cameron isn't working behind the scenes right now. I wouldn't be patting him on the back.

Blogger praetorian June 24, 2016 12:50 PM  

That's decidedly false.

1st law in action.

> linking to the nytimes
> ever

Anonymous TheP6 June 24, 2016 1:03 PM  

@117

1) Orange Revolution and last Maidan (at least its final stages) was about overthrowing corrupt elites. We are still fucked, because we have too many of them. I think it is matter of time generation maybe or two to create new ones, real "elite" not those assholes. Yes you could argue that State Dept. and others forces had interest in those revolution, but we had our interest too.
Don't say you believe that US directly paid us for revolutions.

2) "free-dumb and libertard" - freedom and liberation? Well, Sherlock, of course not, it was about more or less fair election and against corrupt government, and second time some local liberals stood for EU Association Agreement, but after some night beating from police, people raised against corrupt government. Among them there was nationalistic forces too. Believe me, those folks are not happy with EU. So, yes, maybe we were player, but that doesn't mean we were not a player. We just loose because too weak. At least for now.

3) "I really hope you don't believe that Russia has any aspirations of retaking Eastern Europe, via Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, as pounded into Eastern European dead-heads by State Dept./USNATO. The only reason why USNATO is pushing up on Russia's borders, is because Russia has been a thorn in the side of the very globalists that you claim to despise."

Russian has appetite, but not the power. Forces to conquer? Maybe. Forces too hold those territories? I don't think so. Nuke the fuck of them? Yes, but what the point? Where is profit?

4) "preemptive attempt in removing Russia's Black Sea Fleet from Crimea, the gateway to the Mediterranean Sea, the gateway to Syria." Why it is in USNATO interest? Explain, please. Maybe I don't know something.

5) "Stop being such a damn globalist cheerleader. Because that is exactly what one is when cheering on NATO."

I'm not. We have three threats right now: Russia, corruption, globalism. I don't know what is worst, but if we will be conquered by Russia, I don't think we will survive as a separate nation (by nation I mean people with their own identity, political ethie, not a state) and no reason to fight corruption in conquered by Russia state, because minimizing corruption in your own state is far easier than in Russia. So fuck that. You must understand we are in fucking tight situation. Believe me, if we had better times, we would do something about globalists plans. But we don't have power now. It is sad, but true.

Anonymous TheP6 June 24, 2016 1:04 PM  

I talk too much. Sorry. Leaving this comment section.

Blogger Unknown June 24, 2016 1:41 PM  

The hand wringing begins
"After this leave vote, it’s worrying to be an ethnic minority Briton" at the Guardian https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/24/intolerance-ethnic-minority-poles-uk

Blogger tublecane June 24, 2016 1:43 PM  

About David Cameron, he did feel the need to praise multiculturalism and added an irrelevant nod to gay marriage, but that says more about the culture we live in and unconscious expectations than him.

Blogger tublecane June 24, 2016 1:48 PM  

@23-I think Miss Jean Brodie does that herself. She's supposed to be some sort of fascist, but I read progressive liberal in her soul.

Blogger James Jones June 24, 2016 1:53 PM  

Beautifully put. And Nigel is one of my Great British Heroes. He has suffered for his cause, but has shown that British Bulldog Spirit.

Blogger tublecane June 24, 2016 1:55 PM  

Oh, also Cameron's speech was 98% useless pap. He must've repeated the sentiments:
1) thank goodness we have democracy, which I respect,
2) ain't we great, and
3) I wish my side would've won but I won't overturn the results by force,

at least three times. I hate politicians. Even when they're doing the right thing, being dignified and gracious, but they bore me to death. Even Trump bores me half the time.

Blogger James Jones June 24, 2016 1:56 PM  

Beautifully put. And Nigel is one of my Great British Heroes. He has suffered for his cause, but has shown that British Bulldog Spirit.

Blogger James Jones June 24, 2016 1:56 PM  

Beautifully put. And Nigel is one of my Great British Heroes. He has suffered for his cause, but has shown that British Bulldog Spirit.

Blogger Robert What? June 24, 2016 2:15 PM  

@Vox, you are right - voting for it is one thing. Getting the kicking and screaming politicians to act on the will of the people is another. But what the hell is up with the Scots? How did such a proud and independent people fall so far?

Anonymous cheddarman June 24, 2016 2:18 PM  

William Wallace hangs his head in shame.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 24, 2016 2:34 PM  

The South Sea Bubble bankrupted the upper class. They had to surrender to Bank of England in order to eat, or at least to retain their estates. They sold thei.r birthright, came crawling to the Crown, and they're damn proud of it.
Most of the proud Scots, the ones worth two damns, left after that.

Blogger kurt9 June 24, 2016 2:48 PM  

Since the Pound is down 30%, it seems to me that UK (mainly English) assets are a good buy right now.

The EU Mandarins will whine and whine. But they will not retaliate against the UK. The reason is that many English own holiday homes in Southern Europe. Making these go on the market will crash the banks in Spain, Portugal, and other Southern European countries. Also, the UK is one of the biggest markets for German goods. The EU Madarins will have to make nice with the English.

The reunification of Ireland and Scottish independence will actually have a net positive effect on England 9and Wales) economy. 85% of the population of the current form of UK are English as is probably 90-95% of the economy. 2/3's of Scotland's population is on public assistance to some extent, making Scotland a new burden on the English. Northern Ireland is more productive, I think, but as being irish, they would be better off being united with their brothers in the republic if they can work out a suitable arrangement.

The media and celebrities who argued for "REMAIN" engaged in some of the most egregious forms of propaganda that would have made Stalin proud.

Anonymous Charlie Baud June 24, 2016 2:56 PM  

Cameron's inarticulate praise of gay marriage, multiculturalism, and other globalist values sealed his legacy as nothing more than a globalist stooge. Peter Hitches was right.

Blogger Were-Puppy June 24, 2016 2:59 PM  

@86 Salt
The multiculti will never give up. It's just the beginning.

https://www.change.org/p/sadiq-khan-declare-london-independent-from-the-uk-and-apply-to-join-the-eu
---

That clown is like the UKs own mini-Obama

Blogger Elder Son June 24, 2016 3:01 PM  

@121

You still are closing you eyes. The only Russian threat, is the USNATO threat. As of which I have already explained to you, how did you expect Russia to react? Roll over like the rest of the euro-pussies and capitulate to USNATO/State Dept./globalist hegemony?

You are never going to get your country back, until you except that above premise.

As far as the #Brexit, I think it is a red-herring in the long run unless all the EUexits remove themselves from NATO.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 24, 2016 3:09 PM  

not "Italeave"

Italiaderci

Anonymous Rhetoric Man June 24, 2016 3:57 PM  

Praetorian...

"1st law in action. linking to the nytimes ever.

Question the validity of the information from the source, not the source itself. That's Discourse 101.

Blogger GFR June 24, 2016 4:05 PM  

they will try - they will lose. nobody loves the eu who isnt being paid by the eu. only a handful of the 28 countries pay all the bills - and one of them just left. what will the eu do when only the parasites are left?

Anonymous SeventhSonTRS June 24, 2016 4:27 PM  

"Nothing in his political career has become David Cameron like the manner of his leaving the Prime Ministership. He was dignified and graceful in defeat. I was genuinely surprised that he not only did the right thing, but did it very well. Even though he chose the wrong side and led the enemy charge, it must not be forgotten that he gave the British people their chance."

Sometimes having pure cuckolds in positions of power is advantageous!

Anonymous LemonGrass June 24, 2016 4:49 PM  

This is a great correlation.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2000/oct/28/johnezard.dumb

vs who voted to remain

https://twitter.com/mazmhussain/status/746196149816569857

It would be interesting to see the breakdown of race of young people to see whether it's the schooling or the race that is responsible for the dumbing down.

Blogger Dire Badger June 24, 2016 7:07 PM  

@141-
Actually, the results are skewed by the fact that he was questioning londoners only, which is predominantly entitled young Muslims that are terrified of the lazy train ending.

Blogger dfordoom June 24, 2016 8:04 PM  

@ 14. Human Animal

HOW AGES VOTED
(YouGov poll)
18-24: 75% Remain
25-49: 56% Remain
50-64: 44% Remain
65+: 39% Remain


The fact that even 25% of the 18-24 age group voted Leave will actually be rather worrying for the elites. These are the most heavily indoctrinated young people in history and a quarter of them have rejected the indoctrination. It means the programming is not fool-proof.

And as these 18-24-year-olds grow up and start to encounter the real world even more of them may rebel.

Blogger dfordoom June 24, 2016 8:09 PM  

@111. Joe Doakes

If Scotland voted to break away from England to join the EU, there's real potential for humor.

You know what would be really funny? If the EU rejected their membership. Why would the EU want them? They're another Greece in the making. How many more basket cases economies does the German taxpayer want to subsidise?

Anonymous Discard June 25, 2016 2:11 AM  

58. meh: Pushed my button, you did. The term "Asian" in the U.S. was substituted for the correct word "Oriental" at the demand of leftist Chinese and Japanese. They had no real grievance, but, you know, Reds gotta Red.

"Oriental" simply means "east" in Greek, just as "occidental" means "west". It is purely descriptive and has never had any pejorative connotation. Any perusal of older books will produce no examples of the word used in any other sense.

This is a hobby horse of mine, but to be forced to substitute a misnomer like "Asian" for a perfectly good English word is a slander of my culture. It says that we are so evil, our minds and language so malign, that we must crawl on out bellies and beg the Yellow Man to forgive us.

Anonymous Rhetoric Man June 25, 2016 10:18 AM  

dfordoom...

"The fact that even 25% of the 18-24 age group voted Leave will actually be rather worrying for the elites."

Depends if that number grows considerably within the next five years. And why would elites worry?

"These are the most heavily indoctrinated young people in history and a quarter of them have rejected the indoctrination. It means the programming is not fool-proof."

One could easily say you yourself are indoctrinated. Hell, we are all "programmed".

"And as these 18-24-year-olds grow up and start to encounter the real world even more of them may rebel."

Right, because YOU know what they ought to think, feel, and act. How mighty "adult" of you.

Discard...

"The term "Asian" in the U.S. was substituted for the correct word "Oriental" at the demand of leftist Chinese and Japanese."

No, the correct term is "Asian".

"This is a hobby horse of mine, but to be forced to substitute a misnomer like "Asian" for a perfectly good English word is a slander of my culture."

White n----r, please.

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