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Friday, June 17, 2016

Forgive us our dry eyes

In case you're wondering why the #AltRight doesn't give a quantum of a damn about (((media figures))) crying about people being mean to them on the Internet, Mike Cernovich puts it in perspective.
Let’s look at the “harassment” issue rationally.

On the one hand, Jewish pundits have people troll them. Guess what, people troll me every day. If you don’t have a thick skin, don’t share your words and ideas with the world.

Meanwhile I have people call the police on me, report me to the State Bar, and lie about me to prevent me from giving mindset seminars. (They always fail and I always give my seminars, which happen worldwide to rave reviews.)

And as far as my friends go, I have it pretty easy.

Vox Day had to hire private security for our happy hour in Paris France, which was covered in Le Monde.

Milo Yiannopoulos had his talk at DePaul university shut down due to violence:

Milo Yiannopoulos’ event at DePaul University had to be cut short Tuesday night after protesters stormed the stage, blew whistles, grabbed the microphone out of the interviewer’s hand, and threatened to punch Yiannopoulos in the face.

Roosh had entire countries ban him from entry after the dishonest media claimed he was holding seminars on how to rape people.

Where was the outrage from the (((mainstream media)))? Where were the “free speech bloggers”?

To the surprise of no one who follows these issues, the people who virtue signal how appalled they are by “online harassment” were silent.
Mike doesn't even realize that I've been dealing with online harassment from the very start. Back in 2001, I received over 100 death threats as a result of CAIR declaring me their email action item of the day in response to a pro-Israel column I wrote for WND. I didn't cry about it, I didn't call the FBI, I didn't beg for mercy, and I didn't back down.

I just let my editor know, in case any of it was directed his way, and made sure my weapons were freshly loaded and readily accessible. Everyone is going to die sooner or later, so aspire to die well and take as many of the bastards with you as you can, both personally and in reprisal.

It's been 15 years and I still get "harassed" almost every day. But I don't even notice it anymore, I just prepare accordingly for public events. Because Supreme Dark Lord. No protester will ever reach a stage on which I appear, as there are multiple layers of defense in depth and not all of them are apparent.

We live in the Valley of the Shadow of Death and we fear no evil, we hunt the fuckers in the Name of Christendom and the Risen Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth.

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Blogger Josh June 17, 2016 8:09 AM  

a pro-Israel column I wrote for WND

(((Vox Day)))?

Blogger VD June 17, 2016 8:11 AM  

I am pro-Israel and always have been. I am not a Jew. And I believe that the USA must always put American interests first.

Anonymous Rufus June 17, 2016 8:19 AM  

Amen.

Blogger Gaiseric June 17, 2016 8:21 AM  

I didn't know Mike Cernovich was (((Mike Cernovich))). Or is he just joking to make a point?

This was a point that it took me a little while to get. "If you say that Leftists are the real racists/anti-semites; you might be a cuckservative." But... but... but... they are the real racists; they are the real anti-semites.

As I told my kids the other day; when someone calls you a racist or an anti-semite, or a sexist, or a bigot or whatever, what's more effective? "No, see, actually you are the real racist and I can prove it by referencing these quotes, and this chart and, and, and...." or "So what?"

Anonymous grady June 17, 2016 8:26 AM  

"We live in the Valley of the Shadow of Death and we fear no evil, we hunt the fuckers in the Name of Christendom and the Risen Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth."

F@*! YEAH!

Apologies. I had a bit of an adrenalin surge there.

Anonymous Godfrey June 17, 2016 8:30 AM  

That was perfect.

It's kind of like (((media figures))) who ring their hands and accuse Trump of being racist and insensitive while literally saying nothing over the last 25 years as the USG murdered hundreds of thousands of brown people in the Middle-East while leaving another million or so homeless.

Anonymous Stan D. Ground June 17, 2016 8:32 AM  

Does anyone have advice for a recently redpilled interested in returning to Christianity? I was raised Catholic, but can't see myself returning to a movement led by that lunatic traitor in Rome. I 'feel' more Protestant but in all honesty am almost completely ignorant about the bewildering diversity of Protestant churches. I have maternal ancestors who were Methodist and Anglican, according to my geneology-buff mother. I have no interest in wasting my time with cucks. Thanks in advance.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 17, 2016 8:34 AM  

Stan D. Ground wrote:I have no interest in wasting my time with cucks. Thanks in advance.

Be prepared to switch churches. A lot.

Anonymous Fred2 June 17, 2016 8:38 AM  

Did ya see Nero's article on the death threats he gets daily?

Seriously, in a remotely fair world twitter would be banning not him, but _ literally_ thousands of accounts and submitti g them to local authorities for action.?

Bur no, they ban him twice in two days before sites like Drudge make it an issue.

Blogger Markku June 17, 2016 8:48 AM  

Stan, don't buy the "church" paradigm. It doesn't come from the Bible. The Bible knows only of the ecclesia, meaning "called-out ones", and the ecclesia AT a given geographical location. Like, say, Smyrna. Anything you might imagine as the modern meaning of "church", simply is not there.

Now, we Christians do have the obligation to "assemble together", and for that, denominations are useful. But denominations are also expendable. It's not as if, if there's not that one, perfect, God-approved denomination, then Christianity is lost. These church buildings, and church membership, are just a convenience in making it easier to assemble together.

Pick one that seems to be the most faithful to the Bible, but be prepared to walk out if that ceases to be the case, and with good conscience.

Anonymous Bobo June 17, 2016 8:50 AM  

Stan-
Find a non-denominational Bible church for a good place to start.
If you draw near to God, He'll draw near to you. And as A.W.Tozer says, nearness is likeness.

Blogger Callsign 'Maverick' June 17, 2016 9:00 AM  

Might hurt you with the Trump crowd

Blogger residentMoron June 17, 2016 9:01 AM  

For me, churches are like women, you need to have a clear idea of what's fair variety of opinion and what's a deal breaker.

You can't sensibly go church hopping or wife swapping just because you don't agree on everything, but if you have essential, fundamental, and consequential differences then you have a problem.

That's why one should choose both carefully. (Although you don't marry a church, so the analogy is admittedly imperfect.)

Blogger residentMoron June 17, 2016 9:03 AM  

Well said, Markku

Blogger Markku June 17, 2016 9:03 AM  

If the church goes a-whoring, you treat it like a whore. But the mere fact that it inconveniences you somehow, is not it.

Anonymous Takin' a Look June 17, 2016 9:03 AM  

I am pro-Israel and always have been. I am not a Jew. And I believe that the USA must always put American interests first

Good answer. As for jews kvetching about scary antisemitism; well, you have two homelands. Israel and the Jewish Autonomous Oblast of Birobdizhan. Quit whining, roll up your sleeves and get into the Frontier Spirit. Get off the world stage and "out of sight is out of mind"

Unfortunately, the reigning mode of jewish thought is similar to Michael Laitman. As you read the article
You realize quite a few Jews have lost the plot and degenerated into delusional, narcissistic psycho-babble. They truly believe they are Chosen and Called to Tikkun Olem by God (or History for the secular jews). That the goyim will whither and die without jews as the global "joints and junctures". The more sensible-minded jews need to step up and stop this insanity.

Anonymous ThirdMonkey June 17, 2016 9:03 AM  

@ Stan D. Ground
Follow Christ, not a church. That involves lots of time on your knees in prayer and in Scripture. Follow Him, and don't worry too much about what others are doing. If you are obedient, God will put others alongside you. If you get hung up on others, you're following them and not Him. Find a good Christian man and ask him to disciple you. This will be hard to find, but worth it. Most churches will have cucks, some more than others. If they start getting cucky, stand up to them, ignore them, and don't put yourself under their teaching. Above all, they worship the god of "unity" and avoid all conflict, so they are relatively easy to deal with. We had a conflict within our deacon body recently in which the pastor and chairman of the deacons added single moms to the widows list. Out of 25 deacons, I was the only one who vocally objected. By the end of the meeting, they were removed, and it's never been brought up again.

Be sober-minded. There is no perfect church. Most "churches" are just really 501(c) non-profits that provide religious services. They are under the false delusion that if you keep the geezers and women happy, the offering plates will stay full.

Above all, do they preach Christ crucified? Do you hear the term "open your Bibles" and "God's Word says." Is the worship reverent, or is it superfunJesusrockband? Is there theology in the songs that are sung and the prayers that are given? If there are women in the pulpit and in leadership over men, just walk away. Christ did not command us to join a group, he told us to BE the Church. Nonprofit organizations that provide religious services come and go, but the Church shall endure, and the gates of Hell will not overcome.

Blogger Student in Blue June 17, 2016 9:06 AM  

In a choice between Islam and Israel... one is a rebellious, self-centered nation who doesn't have our best interests at heart... and the other is a rebellious, self-centered group of nations who don't have our best interests at heart AND explicitly wish to kill all of us.

Anonymous WinstonWebb June 17, 2016 9:08 AM  

Regarding thick skin and tge lack thereof, that little bitch Fallon, in the wake of Orlando, had this to say:
"We need to get back to being brave enough to accept that we have different opinions and that's OK, because that is what America is built on," Fallon added. "The idea that we can stand up and speak our minds and live our lives and not be punished for that, or mocked on the internet, or killed by someone you don't know."

Yes, Jimmy. Being mocked on the internet is the equivalent of being killed in an Islamic terrorist attack.
Like, everyone knows that...

Blogger residentMoron June 17, 2016 9:12 AM  

Vox

Are you pro Israel in the same sense you're pro Japan-for-the-Japanese, or is there more to it?

Blogger Mr.MantraMan June 17, 2016 9:13 AM  

#14 a thousand times a thousand that.

Ironically and perhaps assisted the mouth breathing lunatic fringe of anti-semetism plays a part in that bit of theater that needs to go away

Blogger VD June 17, 2016 9:20 AM  

Are you pro Israel in the same sense you're pro Japan-for-the-Japanese, or is there more to it?

Pretty much, with the caveat that I have a number of Israeli friends and acquaintances and I respect the IDF's historical performances. On the other hand, I have great admiration for Japanese culture and literature, and considerably less regard for Jewish culture and literature.

Blogger Gaiseric June 17, 2016 9:20 AM  

Student in Blue wrote:In a choice between Islam and Israel... one is a rebellious, self-centered nation who doesn't have our best interests at heart... and the other is a rebellious, self-centered group of nations who don't have our best interests at heart AND explicitly wish to kill all of us.
No they don't. They'd love to enslave many of us. Especially our women.

Blogger 1337kestrel June 17, 2016 9:20 AM  

Everyone knows that Texas Baptists are the One True denomination.

Blogger ghostfromplanetspook June 17, 2016 9:23 AM  

I thought the whole (((echo))) thing was from the Merchant Minute on the Daily Shoa.

Blogger Granddad June 17, 2016 9:28 AM  

Fighter pilots 23rd psalm ...fear no evil, because I'm the toughest SOB in the valley.

Blogger Nate June 17, 2016 9:29 AM  

"Everyone is going to die sooner or later, so aspire to die well and take as many of the bastards with you as you can, both personally and in reprisal. "

And Lord, if this the day you call me home... let me die in a pile of smoking brass.

Blogger Phillip George June 17, 2016 9:30 AM  

Pro Israel.
For those with the ears. All Israel will be saved. Not all Israel is Israel. Plus Synagogue of Satan.

There are exactly three quotes. If you can unscramble the omelette in some novel way, you get the next Nobel Prize, or maybe Heaven. Which exactly comes first in this instance?

morning snidley

Blogger Josh June 17, 2016 9:31 AM  

Does anyone have advice for a recently redpilled interested in returning to Christianity? I was raised Catholic, but can't see myself returning to a movement led by that lunatic traitor in Rome. I 'feel' more Protestant but in all honesty am almost completely ignorant about the bewildering diversity of Protestant churches. I have maternal ancestors who were Methodist and Anglican, according to my geneology-buff mother. I have no interest in wasting my time with cucks. Thanks in advance.

Find your local RUF chapter, ask them for recommendations.

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus June 17, 2016 9:35 AM  

I am pro-Israel and always have been. I am not a Jew. And I believe that the USA must always put American interests first.

Writing (((Vox Day))) from now on.

Just kidding.

Blogger Mike Romkey June 17, 2016 9:36 AM  

Bracing post. Excellent. (Either there's an incomplete sentence in the penultimate paragraph or my brain is failing to parse something.)

Blogger James Dixon June 17, 2016 9:36 AM  

> I have maternal ancestors who were Methodist and Anglican, according to my geneology-buff mother. I have no interest in wasting my time with cucks.

Well, stay away from the current Episcopal Church.

Blogger Student in Blue June 17, 2016 9:37 AM  

@Gaiseric
No they don't. They'd love to enslave many of us. Especially our women.

That's just a different kind of death - the death of a culture and identity.

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus June 17, 2016 9:38 AM  

Now, we Christians do have the obligation to "assemble together", and for that, denominations are useful.

The only church is the local church. Anything "above" that is man-made.

Anonymous AltTrash June 17, 2016 9:51 AM  

"In case you're wondering why the #AltRight doesn't give a quantum of a damn about (((media figures)))..."

What a weird opening statement. Of course the AltRight doesn't care since they are the ones doing the trolling.

Blogger Josh June 17, 2016 9:52 AM  

I am pro-Israel and always have been. I am not a Jew. And I believe that the USA must always put American interests first.

See that's the kind of sensible answer that gets you branded as both a hateful anti Semitic Nazi by the Israel lobby and a hateful anti white neocon cuck by the white nationalist Nazi faction.

Blogger Unknown June 17, 2016 9:58 AM  

@Stan

Like others said, dont focus too much on finding a church, find Jesus. Read the Bible and ask the Holy Spirit to give you understanding. It is very good to have biblicaly grounded peers and "elders", which we generally hope to find these in church but honestly, its sort of a crap shoot in finding a church full these peers and "elders".

I wrote this to someone before
"Do you want to be an Israelite taken into captivity or one of the remnants thatt was not captured that God saves for himself?
Be like Elijah. He thought he was alone but God tells him he has a remnant of 5-7 thousand who have not bent a knee to baal.
That is the state of the modern church. Be sure you can stand on your own (in Christ). Bring your brothers and sisters to repentance if possible. At the end of the day, its their choice and their fate may be to come back to God WHILE in captivity, escape the captivity yourself. Be a voice in the wilderness like John the Baptist.
I know we humans are social creatures and God says its not good for us to be alone. Be that as it may, stand on your own first. Strengthen yourself in Christ first. Seek him fist before you seek a church. The Holy Spirit will teach you and help you understand the Bible when you decide to apply yourself to learn the Bible"

Anonymous crushlimbraw June 17, 2016 9:58 AM  

6 Stan-You might read my website - one of my two assertions is that the American church-at-large is primarily responsible for the destruction of western civilization. Linking to my name will get you there. Once there, it also links to a blog archive which has a category 'Christian Action Project'.
Main point - do not become associated with a church that just sits and waits for Christ to come and save the world. He assigned the job of making disciples of all nations to us!

Blogger S1AL June 17, 2016 9:58 AM  

@Stan - Baptist churches are often a good place to start. There's no overarching denomination, and most of them are run by members, so it should be easy to find a Bible-based, small, local church without the bureaucratic baggage.

Anonymous ThirdMonkey June 17, 2016 9:59 AM  

@1337 Kestrel Texas Baptists are nothing but mouth breathing uncircumcised Philistines. Members of the Southern Baptists of Texas Convention are the Remnant of true and faithful believers. And any congregation with dual affiliation might as well put Cuck on their front signage.

Blogger Teri June 17, 2016 10:06 AM  

Have you considered an Orthodox Church? You wouldn't be dealing with the Bishop of Rome and you might find it a better fit. Protestant Chuches tend to vary as the pastor or minister sets the tone.

Anonymous WinstonWebb June 17, 2016 10:09 AM  

AltTrashJune 17, 2016 9:51 AM
"In case you're wondering why the #AltRight doesn't give a quantum of a damn about (((media figures)))..."

What a weird opening statement. Of course the AltRight doesn't care since they are the ones doing the trolling.

There's some truth to that statement. And we probably shouldn't intentionally trigger the little bitches as often as we do. But sometimes it's just too much fun to screw with the easy targets. Especially when we know how simple it is to make them cry.

Blogger Jakob Niedzwiecki June 17, 2016 10:13 AM  

Go Catholic again, but go SSPX. Masculine, traditional, and full of healthy skepticism about our Dear Leader from down Argentine way. The Church has had bad Popes before. She has survived worse. Come sing the Traditional Latin Mass with us and stand against the modernists from the inside. It's a hell of a fight; wouldn't miss it for the world.

Blogger Natalie June 17, 2016 10:14 AM  

RUF is part of the PCA. Now, I love me a reformed church that sings old music and has a liturgy and all that, but the PCA probably has a few too many gentle, white, nerdy, concerned men in it. Think Timothy Keller. Not around the bend on everything, but certainly not a staunch defender of a free and equipped Christendom.

The more robust elements of our church come from the men who work with their hands and drink whiskey (and aren't afraid to tell the girls who drink whiskey that whiskey night is men only). If you want to go reformed then stay far far away from PCUSA and (IMO) look for plenty of rednecks in the congregation. Large families are nice too, but plenty of them are Israel firsters (and not in the rational sense either).

Anonymous Trimegistus June 17, 2016 10:15 AM  

I'm not a believer, but every now and then it gives me a little chill to see how the first thing people do as they lose sight of God is to turn against his chosen people. It almost makes me believe there really is a Devil.

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus June 17, 2016 10:15 AM  

To the topic of the post, I can only recall a single time I ever received a credible death threat because of something I wrote. About ten years ago, I actually had some Muslim telephone my house and threaten to kill me because of my online book about Islam - Ten Myths about Islam.

I told him to hold on a second while I got my shotgun out. I racked it over the phone, and then got back on and told him that anyone who showed up was going to get some buckshot up their a$$hole. Never heard a thing about it ever again.

Blogger John Wilson Bach June 17, 2016 10:18 AM  

Hey, somewhat related to comments above, and somewhat not... our church recently put a woman in charge of worship. I don't know what to think about it - it definitely has a different "feel"... (best word I could think of)... something about it just irritates me. I don't know if this level of leadership (worship) is forbidden for women Biblically or not. Just curious what others thought. Non-denominational, roughly 200 in attendance.

Anonymous AltTrash June 17, 2016 10:18 AM  

"There's some truth to that statement. And we probably shouldn't intentionally trigger the little bitches as often as we do. But sometimes it's just too much fun to screw with the easy targets. Especially when we know how simple it is to make them cry."

Plus...and as a bonus...it's just so much fun to celebrate the holocaust and genocide and to threaten Jews. Carry on, Winston.

Anonymous Stephen J. June 17, 2016 10:20 AM  

Solely to represent the other side of the argument: First off, don't equate the Catholic Church with any one man except Jesus. We have had Popes far worse than Francis and we survived. Second, don't equate the picture of Francis the press paints for you with the real Pontiff; remember how poorly the MSM does on any topic you know, and be assured they are no more accurate, fair or truthful with Francis' words. And third, read the Bible and pray for guidance, but bear in mind that that guidance can also come through words in books other than the Bible. Read Aquinas. Read Augustine. Read Catherine di Siena. Read some books debunking the anti-Catholic propaganda of the 19th century. Read John C. Wright's apologetics posts on his blog. Read the Catechism, surf the Catholic Encyclopedia, read Thomas Madden's The Concise History of the Crusades. And most of all, read about the Sacraments and what they mean by people who love them.

Now all that said, there are priests and bishops who provide very poor catechesis in practice. If your closest parish ministers are truly saying things that feel wrong or incomplete, don't hesitate to do your own research and ask others. But if you are looking for a Church where people never say things that sound wrong or even un-Christian, you won't find it on this planet.

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus June 17, 2016 10:20 AM  

our church recently put a woman in charge of worship. I don't know what to think about it

If she's "in charge" of worship, then that's a seriously unscriptural situation. Everyone in Scripture where you see worship taking place, men were placed in the leadership role over it. In fact, every leadership position in a local church ought to be filled by a man. There is simply no place in the churches for female "leadership." God clearly lays out the principle of masculine leadership in His Word, over and over again.

Blogger Matthew June 17, 2016 10:22 AM  

ThirdMonkey wrote:@1337 Kestrel Texas Baptists are nothing but mouth breathing uncircumcised Philistines. Members of the Southern Baptists of Texas Convention are the Remnant of true and faithful believers. And any congregation with dual affiliation might as well put Cuck on their front signage.

See, this has the potential to be FAR more entertaining than the endless Protestant/Romanist wars.

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus June 17, 2016 10:23 AM  

See, this has the potential to be FAR more entertaining than the endless Protestant/Romanist wars.

As the 1632 series showed us, those wars can be pretty entertaining, too.

OpenID boardroomal June 17, 2016 10:24 AM  

It is refreshing to find people online who do not apologize for their Christianity, are willing to defend it, an understand that an unapologetic tribal masculinity must come back into it to make it flourish again.

Rod Dreher for example, spends a lot of time talking about who is going to punch us and sits and frets in his pill box wild-eyed. I like reading him, but he is such a Churchian Cuck, he can't grasp the basics of human existence. Like fretting about bullies punching you and forecasting another bully will eventually punch you and worrying about the rise of "Angry Christian Men" which is implicit in all his writings, is not neither prescient or a strategy.

I don't understand Cucks who claim to be part of the "Christ Tribe" who are afraid of defending themselves, have no ability to be able to integrate their Christianity through an expressive form of masculinity for fear of "Angering the emasculated Jacuzzi Jesus" they worship, let alone engage in ANY offensive strategies at all.

Nemo Me Impune Lacessit!, Christ Haters.

Blogger Nate June 17, 2016 10:24 AM  

"Members of the Southern Baptists of Texas Convention are the Remnant of true and faithful believers. And any congregation with dual affiliation might as well put Cuck on their front signage."

Ah yes... the faggots who were calling for more refugees and resolving that the Battle Flag belongs in a museum.

Anonymous Charles Martel June 17, 2016 10:26 AM  

Deus Vult!

Blogger John Wilson Bach June 17, 2016 10:26 AM  

@48... yeah, I think you're right about that. Not to belabor the point, I guess the only place for female leadership in the church is over children's ministries. Not that I want female leadership over anything, except I don't know any men who want responsibility for children's programs.

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus June 17, 2016 10:28 AM  

yeah, I think you're right about that. Not to belabor the point, I guess the only place for female leadership in the church is over children's ministries. Not that I want female leadership over anything, except I don't know any men who want responsibility for children's programs.

Well, I think there's scriptural support for women having the responsibility for teaching the children. However, even in that, there needs to be masculine oversight (even if not direct involvement) to ensure that the women are not straying doctrinally or imbalancing the teaching too much to the "touchy-feely" side.

Blogger Millie June 17, 2016 10:36 AM  

If you want something that's catholicish without being Catholic, though lapsed, I was confirmed in the Lutheran Church Missouri synod, and it seemed all right. I don't recall it being political at all, and it had good structure and none of that revivalist speaking in tongues business.

Anonymous vfm #0202 June 17, 2016 10:36 AM  

@43 "it almost makes me believe there is a Devil"

Who, raging and unwilling, still serves the Lord's purposes. It was not those who present as God's friends but those who present as His enemies that brought me back to Him. In this I am very far from alone. That has got to burn like Hell. High five, team Good.

Of course now that I'm back, there's this log I need to pick up and carry, as far as I can. Where to? That's a matter for ponderation, preparation, and prayer.

Anonymous andon June 17, 2016 10:37 AM  

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Blogger Dexter June 17, 2016 10:38 AM  

Not to belabor the point, I guess the only place for female leadership in the church is over children's ministries.

Fie. I can remember when MEN always taught Sunday school.

And also when there were many male elementary school teachers.

Yeah, I'm that old.

Anonymous WinstonWebb June 17, 2016 10:39 AM  


Plus...and as a bonus...it's just so much fun to celebrate the holocaust and genocide and to threaten Jews. Carry on, Winston.

Yes. Because being pro-"Israel for Israelis" is EXACTLY the same thing as celebrating the holocaust & genocide & threatening Jews.

It's moments like these that I'm so grateful that our ideological enemies are so stupid.

Anonymous ThirdMonkey June 17, 2016 10:42 AM  

Nate, this is a fight between two distinct Baptist factions within Texas, not #SBC2016. I'm a Baptist, and I'll still fly my Terry's Texas Rangers flag, and my Covenanter flag because 1.) I'm predestined to and 2.) I don't give a damn what the Cucks in St.Louis say about the flags or refugees. Part of being a Southern Baptist is that we are not beholden to anyone but the leadership of the local congregation.

Anonymous Dan June 17, 2016 10:42 AM  

I am pro-Israel (in relation to its surrounding enemies) because I am pro-civilization and pro-thought. In a world that favored civilization, it would be obvious that the anti-intellectual and primitive barbarians surrounding Israel should not win.

The stupid left is in a supreme bind and will remain in a bind for the remainder of the foreseeable future. They have favored the less civilized for a long time, but they thoroughly enjoy the fruits civilization. The right understands civilization and can create pockets of civilization amid the muck but is in no position to establish a broader civilized world.

When Rome fell, it was characterized by a retreat from the Commons, which collapsed, toward private rural units, which carried on.

Anonymous andon June 17, 2016 10:44 AM  

46. Anonymous AltTrash June 17, 2016 10:18 AM

Plus...and as a bonus...it's just so much fun to celebrate the holocaust and genocide and to threaten Jews. Carry on, Winston.


lol, is that supposed to make someone feel bad?

Blogger Natalie June 17, 2016 10:45 AM  

There is a TON of stuff for women to do in the church, but none of it requires a seminary degree.

There are meals to be cooked, children to teach (with oversight from the session), parents to encourage, the sick to visit, events to plan, etc.

SAHMs have a decent amount of time to do and organize while the men are at work, and they're needed in these places. REALLY needed. It's just not a thing anymore apparently :(


Anonymous BGKB June 17, 2016 10:46 AM  

a pro-Israel column I wrote for WND (((Vox Day)))? Not if he said all jews should go to Israel, although that doesn't count as wishing Israel well.

In a choice between Islam and Israel... AND explicitly wish to kill all of us

The choice is only in the time frame, (((()))) are importing moslems for a slow genocide, to turn Europe & USA into masses of stupid brown people they can rule over.

Blogger John Williams June 17, 2016 10:50 AM  

No protester will ever reach a stage on which I appear, as there are multiple layers of defense in depth and not all of them are apparent.
Most likely it'll look like a clear path to the stage. Reading Lind last night, the German "walk right in defense" was mentioned and a name was given to one of Vox's favorite tactics.
...let me die in a pile of smoking brass.
I came into this world screaming & covered in someone else's blood. It would be a fitting way to leave.

Blogger Rabbi B June 17, 2016 10:51 AM  

@14 Takin' a Look

They truly believe they are Chosen and Called to Tikkun Olem by God (or History for the secular jews).

I believe we are the chosen, but that we have forgotten what we were chosen for: service. To serve others, and this includes the nation to which we have been scattered. Jews in the US should be putting America first, and their failure to do so does not bode well for us. Put America first or go home to Israel.

Being a servant involves putting the interests of others before your own. As I have challenged the (((narrative))) here and there on Twitter, engaging recently I have been largely dismissed as a slick antisemitic Gentile troll impersonating Jews with my obviously fake Twitter account, among other things. Quite amusing really. I have yet to engage in a serious discussion with fellow Jews from the average commenter to the Ben Shapiros or the prima donas at the Abomination Defense League.

There are certainly always people who will harbor baseless hatred no matter what, but I am convinced that if organizations like the (((ADL))) and their ilk were to shut their doors, that we would see a significant drop in *antisemitism* almost immediately. But, if we keep demanding special treatment, special treatment is exactly what we are going to get.

Even in countries which are oppressing us we are called to suffer well and seek the good of those nations as well. Tikkun Olam? How about starting with Tikkun Yehudi, repairing the Jew.















Anonymous Morrakiu's press agent June 17, 2016 10:52 AM  

I thought the whole (((echo))) thing was from the Merchant Minute on the Daily Shoa.

It is. It was even in the news over the last few weeks. And that's Shoah, goy. Such shameful insensitivity...

Here's Morrakiu reacting to NPR discovering this shockingly antisemitic punctuation:

NPR exposes the echo!


Anonymous ThirdMonkey June 17, 2016 10:53 AM  

@ Dexter In our church, every class, from bed babies to the ancients, has a man as a primary teacher, except for the unwed mother's busybodies class and the widow's class. All of our childrens' classes are taught by husband and wife, and past 6th grade are separated and taught by men or women teachers respective to their sex. We have our issues like any other congregation, but men in leadership roles is not one of them.

Blogger YIH June 17, 2016 10:53 AM  

VD wrote:Are you pro Israel in the same sense you're pro Japan-for-the-Japanese, or is there more to it?

Pretty much, with the caveat that I have a number of Israeli friends and acquaintances and I respect the IDF's historical performances. On the other hand, I have great admiration for Japanese culture and literature, and considerably less regard for Jewish culture and literature.

That pretty much sums up my POV vis v vie Israel and Israelis. The difference being; There are not roughly 125~ million Japanese in the USA (the US's jewish population is roughly the same as Israel's - believe it or not) the head of the FED is not Japanese, nor is the CEO of faceberg. None of the heads of the holowood studios (yes, including SONY pictures) is Japanese. Same with US broadcasting companies. Sumitomo Mitsui Financial Group did not screw millions of Americans, like (((Goldman Sachs))) did. Despite being prolific pr0n producers in their own right, the Japanese don't dominate porn. There are no wealthy Japanese using their billions to foment turmoil and unrest in my country. While Japan relies on the US for it's protection, it does not use the US as it's demonic golem to throw it's weight around the world in a hostile and aggressive manner not only in the Middle East but elsewhere the Japanese have issues with.
If not merely indifferent to it, the Japanese treat Christianity with at least some basic respect, they have no history of despising it. Nor have they ever worked to diminish and remove it either inside Japan or outside it. There are no large statues of Buddha nor Shinto arches outside in our capital either. Nor do they complain about the appearance of a nativity scene or a Christmas tree (in fact modern Japanese love that stuff) in public.

Anonymous andon June 17, 2016 10:54 AM  

@17 - sounds like at least he's for Freedom of Speech.

Blogger Iowahine June 17, 2016 10:57 AM  

We live in the Valley of the Shadow of Death and we fear no evil, we hunt the fuckers in the Name of Christendom and the Risen Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth.

That's how we do it, people.

Blogger John Wilson Bach June 17, 2016 10:59 AM  

I guess I should check further into this. I am sure the new worship leader answers to the all male leadership board, but I also imagine she as complete say over what is performed in worship. I just don't like it. I appreciate the various comments.

OpenID boardroomal June 17, 2016 11:03 AM  

Denominational Fights are worthless....Christians need to get on "Team Western Civilization". The only internal fighting allowed should be among the "Orthodox Mere-Christianity Christians including Orthodox Catholics" Vs the Churchian, Cucks, Heretics, Heterodox, Feminist & Effeminized, Liberals, Women-lead and their entrenched Clergy and their Demonic anti-Christ institutions, the Mammon-Caesar-worshiping NGO's, the Universities and colleges, and the liberal group think clergy and pastoral conferences....all muscle should be on anathema-mizing and grinding them into dust so not a spark is left.

Anonymous BGKB June 17, 2016 11:04 AM  

antisemitic Gentile troll impersonating Jews with my obviously fake Twitter account

Twitter broke the autocomplete of #gaysforTRUMP the same time it banned Milo.

Anonymous Takin' a Look June 17, 2016 11:12 AM  

@ Rabbi B

Well said.

Blogger jason van June 17, 2016 11:12 AM  

I've tried explaining this to my mother in law (she's a rabid Israel firster). It seems I'm officially the jew burning Nazi in the family because she can't understand that simple concept.

Blogger The Kurgan June 17, 2016 11:19 AM  

Stan D Ground,
Read on the origins of the church. My own current view is that the original Carholic church is indeed the true(st) one but it has been sede vacantis since 1958 and certainly since Varican II.
Francis is the herald of the anti-Christ as far as I am concerned. But this too seems to have been predicted in the Bible.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 17, 2016 11:22 AM  

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Blogger YIH June 17, 2016 11:23 AM  

ghostfromplanetspook wrote:I thought the whole (((echo))) thing was from the Merchant Minute on the Daily Shoa.
Yes. In fact The Daily Shoah coined the term 'Merchant Minute' and the (((echo))) meme about the same time.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 17, 2016 11:24 AM  

John Wilson Bach wrote:I guess the only place for female leadership in the church is over children's ministries. Not that I want female leadership over anything, except I don't know any men who want responsibility for children's programs.

Depending on how you define "children", this can be a sure way of losing the next generation. In the Catholic Church, the loss of nuns to teach religion in the 1960s was compensated for by putting suburban moms in charge. That led to "Jesus Loves You" as the limit of theology taught, which has so far destroyed 2 generations of Catholics.

Anonymous Godfrey June 17, 2016 11:25 AM  

(((media))) logic

The Left and their Cuck cousins destroy brown peoples countries resulting in the deaths of hundred of thousands and the displacement of a million more and I'm the "racist" because on don't want the pissed-off survivors shipped to my neighborhood.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan June 17, 2016 11:26 AM  

I'm old enough to remember when Jews were largely considered another European ethnic group, better days

Anonymous Godfrey June 17, 2016 11:26 AM  

I repeat...

(((media))) logic

The Left and their Cuck cousins destroy brown peoples countries resulting in the deaths of hundred of thousands and the displacement of a million more and I'm the "racist" because on don't want the pissed-off survivors shipped to my neighborhood.

Blogger Escoffier June 17, 2016 11:26 AM  

Boardroomal?

On the subject of rod dreher? One of the things god hates is a coward.

Blogger Spencer Rathbun June 17, 2016 11:27 AM  

@37 I'd avoid the Baptist churches. They all want pastors from seminary, and all those schools are connected together to push the same message of complementarianism. So even though the churches are independent, the teaching you get is the same and completely blue pill.

Blogger VD June 17, 2016 11:30 AM  

If not merely indifferent to it, the Japanese treat Christianity with at least some basic respect, they have no history of despising it.

Actually, their anti-Christian history is considerably more violent than that of the Jews. The Japanese pretty much wiped it out along with "Dutch learning" aka Western science and technology before the Perry flotilla forced a reintroduction.

Blogger Bard June 17, 2016 11:32 AM  

Hunting Fuckers and serving christ in the same sentence. That is why I love this guy.

My recommendation: spend a year reading your bible, all of it, even the hard to grasp parts. Then go to a church. You will be familiar with it all and probably be the most well versed person there. Then you can filter the bullshit better.

Blogger Bard June 17, 2016 11:34 AM  

Hunting Fuckers and serving christ in the same sentence. That is why I love this guy.

My recommendation: spend a year reading your bible, all of it, even the hard to grasp parts. Then go to a church. You will be familiar with it all and probably be the most well versed person there. Then you can filter the bullshit better.

Anonymous Orville June 17, 2016 11:41 AM  

Winston, you watch Jimmy Fellate? Shame on you :-)

Blogger praetorian June 17, 2016 11:42 AM  

It almost makes me believe there really is a Devil.

Long before I believed that truly, this was The Son of God, I believed in the Evil One.

I've watched him move my own hand.

Blogger Nick S June 17, 2016 11:48 AM  

Spencer Rathbun wrote:@37 I'd avoid the Baptist churches. They all want pastors from seminary, and all those schools are connected together to push the same message of complementarianism. So even though the churches are independent, the teaching you get is the same and completely blue pill.

I think you can exclude the Free Will Baptists from that generalization. Most Baptists look down their noses at them for rejecting the doctrine of 'Once Saved Always Saved' which ultimately relies on the No True Christian logical fallacy when you drill down.

Anonymous WinstonWebb June 17, 2016 11:50 AM  

OrvilleJune 17, 2016 11:41 AM
Winston, you watch Jimmy Fellate? Shame on you :-)


To my everlasting shame, I find Celebrity Karaoke highly entertaining.

Blogger Eric June 17, 2016 11:51 AM  

@Callsign Maverick,

"Might hurt you with the Trump crowd"

Why? Sounds like a lot like Trump's position.

Blogger LES June 17, 2016 12:02 PM  

Vox, As an American Indian I would think you would identify with the indigenous people of Palestine instead of the invading Khazars.

Blogger YIH June 17, 2016 12:02 PM  

VD wrote:If not merely indifferent to it, the Japanese treat Christianity with at least some basic respect, they have no history of despising it.

Actually, their anti-Christian history is considerably more violent than that of the Jews. The Japanese pretty much wiped it out along with "Dutch learning" aka Western science and technology before the Perry flotilla forced a reintroduction.

Point taken. I stand corrected, note that the rejection of Christianity was in regard to it's rejection of Westernism as a whole. Post Perry, and especially post-war, however, their treatment of Christianity is either indifference or benign respect. Not over 2000 years of hostility,

Anonymous Pax_Romana June 17, 2016 12:06 PM  

Nondenominational Protestants have the hang up of not having biblically established traditions to ground them against modern heresies. Granted, those traditions haven't saved the Methodists, Anglicans, Episcopalians, etc.

I go to a non-denomination in LA that borders on cucking themselves: the pastor said he wanted to quote non-western theologians on Sundays in order to show the diversity of the Body. What results is lousy translations of second-rate theology.

In all else, though, it's pretty close to the essentials of a traditional understanding of sin, redemption, and salvation.

You'll never find a perfect body of believers on this side of eternity. Decide which fights matter and be gracious with the rest.

Blogger Earl June 17, 2016 12:19 PM  

I'm a big fan of Reformed Calvininst confessional Protestant churches. There's a Facebook group called Calvin's Discussion...

https://m.facebook.com/groups/CFDD1/?view=group

Very masculine, very intellectual, very serious, sometimes funny too

Blogger Dave June 17, 2016 12:27 PM  

Tell us, any of the threats you received give you a laugh? Most of them I'm sure are pedestrian and mundane but there had to have been a few over the years that were imaginative. I'm picturing JCW writing threats as a lark of course.

Blogger Natalie June 17, 2016 12:29 PM  

I'd still say bad idea. Effeminate worship is as bad for the church as bad sermons. What's more likely to influence your thinking - a song you sing every couple weeks or a sermon you hear once?

Blogger Student in Blue June 17, 2016 12:29 PM  

@YIH
If not merely indifferent to it, the Japanese treat Christianity with at least some basic respect, they have no history of despising it. Nor have they ever worked to diminish and remove it either inside Japan or outside it.

As Vox said, that is not correct.

Blogger Nick S June 17, 2016 12:30 PM  

@95
Modern Palestinians are not the descendants of an indigenous people. They are roughly 97+% Arab immigrants and their descendants. You can prove it with fairly simple math, census reports and known average population growth rates for surrounding areas

Anonymous Gen. Kong June 17, 2016 12:36 PM  

Very stirring call to arms from VD.

Anonymous Camilla Cameo June 17, 2016 12:45 PM  

Dear Stan @6,
The Catholic Church is the one true apostolic Church and the means of salvation that Our Lord established. Jorge Bergoglio is a heretic and probably the "Destroyer Pope" prophesied by St. Francis of Assisi. Read Ann Barnhardt at barnhardt.biz. I will pray for you.

Anonymous andon June 17, 2016 12:45 PM  

102. Blogger Nick S June 17, 2016 12:30 PM
@95
Modern Palestinians are not the descendants of an indigenous people. They are roughly 97+% Arab immigrants and their descendants. You can prove it with fairly simple math, census reports and known average population growth rates for surrounding areas


that's what I suspect too. the whole thing is a fraud

Anonymous DavidKathome June 17, 2016 12:45 PM  

@6 Does anyone have advice for a recently redpilled interested in returning to Christianity?

Any Orthodox churches in your area?

Blogger Nick S June 17, 2016 12:46 PM  

Tell us, any of the threats you received give you a laugh? Most of them I'm sure are pedestrian and mundane but there had to have been a few over the years that were imaginative. I'm picturing JCW writing threats as a lark of course.

I've threatened to torture him with my unacknowledged comedic genius for the remainder of my days. On the surface he feigns indifference, but I know underneath he's scurd.

Blogger Gaiseric June 17, 2016 1:00 PM  

Mr.MantraMan wrote:I'm old enough to remember when Jews were largely considered another European ethnic group, better days
As I said in a thread the other day; the Ashkenazim have about an 80% mtDNA heritage from northern Italy, but they have an equally high number, if not even a bit higher, of Y-chromosomal DNA from the Near East. mtDNA is specifically passed on through the mothers, while Y-chromosomal DNA comes from the fathers. The fathers of the Ashkenazim bravely and heroically left all their own women behind in the hands of their enemies, and came up through what later emerged as the Hajnal line as the very first "where all dem white girls at?" refugees from the Middle East.

Blogger Dire Badger June 17, 2016 1:00 PM  

Vox- are you planning on another article giving us the best gems from your harassment mail?
I find it terribly amusing.

Blogger bob k. mando June 17, 2016 1:04 PM  

73. John Wilson Bach June 17, 2016 10:59 AM
I guess I should check further into this. I am sure the new worship leader answers to the all male leadership board, but I also imagine she as complete say over what is performed in worship. I just don't like it. I appreciate the various comments.



the New Testament does NOT simply say that women are to hold their tongues in the church service ... it says that IF they have questions about what they hear, they should STILL hold their tongues until they get home so that they may ask their husbands in private to explain the exegesis to them.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+14%3A17-40&version=KJV

notice also that this text explicitly says that speaking in tongues is for witness to the unbeliever but prophecy is for witness to other believers.


continuing with that theme, do NOT go to a Methodist Church. they employ women pastors and i have direct knowledge of one.

she was married to a doctor, got a very acrimonious divorce at his instigation ( fails the requirements for an elder of the church to manage his spouse ) and was repeatedly getting dragged back into court by him to renegotiate the terms of the divorce settlement.

THEN, as a divorcee with children, she took up courses to be a pastor in her local Methodist Church.

then she started dating a friend of mine ... and he would occasionally spend the night at her house. while they're both single. *facedesk*

then they made her an entry level padre.

then she broke up with him.

now i find out that in the ~4 years since the last time i saw her, she has been remarried ... and divorced again.

and, so far as i know, she's still a pastor in the Methodist Church.

there is NO righteousness in such an organization. as noted earlier, the Methodist Church is simply a tithe collecting organization.

Blogger John Wright June 17, 2016 1:15 PM  

Whatever disadvantages there may be to rejoining the Catholic Church, one advantage is that, even across broad spans of history, and even with questionable leadership, the Church teaching does not change.

We do not put women in charge of worship and never will because Christ did not. We condemn abortion because the Apostles did (see the Didache). We forbid divorce because Christ did.

My point here is that if you join a robust and masculine denomination clearly centered on Biblical teaching, that preaches Christ Crusified, and all that good stuff, some council of pastors whose names you don't know might have be infiltrated by Entryists next year, and vote for a more gay-friendly reform.

We've had Popes who kept mistresses and fathered bastards, but none who has taught that keeping mistresses and fathering bastards is OK.

For better or worse, we do not reform. For better or worse, we have one leader, Christ, and one vicar, the Pope, so we know who is in charge of our church.

(The Eastern Orthodox as a similar good track record with that, but I have yet to meet a Protestant who knows the names of the men in charge of his denomination without having to look it up. Could just be the Protestants I know, but I also do not see their names in the news.)

Blogger Dave June 17, 2016 1:18 PM  

I've threatened to torture him with my unacknowledged comedic genius for the remainder of my days. On the surface he feigns indifference

Very well could be true indifference, Nick.


Vox- are you planning on another article giving us the best gems from your harassment mail?
I find it terribly amusing.


I concur, DB

Blogger John Wright June 17, 2016 1:19 PM  

My fellow Catholics will upbraid me, but I will also say that every Orthodox and every Mormon I have ever met, schismatic or not, heretic or not, was a hard-core Christ-loving badass, sincere in worship, and immune to political correctness bullshit.

Your mileage may vary. I am only talking about ones I've met personally, spoken to.

(I cannot recommend believing Mormon theology however. It is far from the mainstream, and far from the truth as taught by the Apostles.)

Blogger John Wright June 17, 2016 1:30 PM  

"... the Japanese treat Christianity with at least some basic respect, they have no history of despising it. Nor have they ever worked to diminish and remove it..."

I assume you mean to restrict this comment strictly to the modern generation. Japan has been one of the more strict and severe nations in their rejection of Christianity.

Aside from the Great Martyrdom of Nagasaki, history also bears the witness of Alfonso Navarrete Benito, Pedro of Avila, Carlo Espinola, Ioachim Diaz Hirayama, Lucia de Freitas, and 200 Companion Martyrs of Japan, including the Blessed Caius of Korea and the Blessed Thomas Tsugi.

To which we add:

The Martyrs of Yatushiro (+1603-1609)

The Martyrs of Yamaguchi (Melchior Kumagai Motonao, a samurai, and Damian, a blind catechist)

Leo Saishio Shichiemon, a samurai from Sendai

The Martyrs of Ikitsuki (Three members of the Nishi family)

The Martyrs of Arima (Eight noble Christians burned alive on October 7, 1613)

Adam Arakawa, a catechist from Amakusa
The Martyrs of Kyoto (52 Christians burned alive on October 6, 1619)

The Martyrs of Kumamoto (Members of the Kagayama and Ogasawara families)
John Hara Mondo, a samurai killed in the Great Martyrdom of Edo

The Martyrs of Hiroshima (Francis Toyama Jintaro, a samurai; Matthias Shobara Ichizaemon and Joachim Kuroemon, catechists)

The Martyrs of Unzen (29 Christians drowned to death in the Shimabara river or scalded to death in the sulphur springs of Unzen)

The Martyrs of Yonezawa (55 Christians beheaded on January 12, 1629)

Michael Kusuriya, the "Good Samaritan of Nagasaki" who was burned alive in Nishizaka Hill; and Bro. Nicholas Keian Fukunaga, a Jesuit Brother who was the first Christian to suffer the "gallows and the pit", a torture in which the condemned individual is fixed head-down to a wooden beam and lowered to his waist into a pit filled with garbage.

Fr. Julian Nakaura, a Jesuit priest.

Fr. Diego Yuki Ryosetsu, a Japanese priest who suffered the gallows and the pit torture and execution in Osaka in 1636.

Fr. Thomas Jihyoe, one of the Hermits of St. Augustine

Fr. Peter Kibe Kasui, a Jesuit Priest who suffered the gallows and the pit in Tokyo in 1639.

And so on.

Blogger praetorian June 17, 2016 1:34 PM  

"Might hurt you with the Trump crowd"

Why in wouldn't we want the jews to have a homeland?

Love of one's own people does not mean hate of other people. It does mean hate of other people trying to destroy your people, but that's another thing.

I very much enjoy that Japan exists. I have no desire to live in Japan.

This is normal.

Blogger Nick S June 17, 2016 1:35 PM  

Very well could be true indifference, Nick.

That's unpossible. It doesn't conform to my reality in which I self-identify as Komos..., but only on the weekends.

Anonymous Long time lurker June 17, 2016 1:43 PM  

Stan D. Ground wrote:Does anyone have advice for a recently redpilled interested in returning to Christianity?

Stan, the problem with being raised Catholic, and here I speak from experience, is that you were given a cheap knockoff and told it was Catholicism. I assure you that the rainbows and kittens and "Jesus carried me in the sand" that you were raised with is not the faith.

I recommend get a good introductory book like Catholicism for Dummies (don't be insulted it's a good book) and at least learn what Catholicism really is before you leave it. If it doesn't ring true, you can leave the Church with a good conscience.

If it does ring true, you're only one confession away from returning to the Church. Then, follow others' advice: read the bible, pray, avail yourself to the sacraments, read the catechism. The situation at your local church will vary (and there's a good chance it will suck), but the faith hand down from the Apostles is trustworthy.

Blogger lowercaseb June 17, 2016 1:44 PM  

John Wright wrote:(I cannot recommend believing Mormon theology however. It is far from the mainstream, and far from the truth as taught by the Apostles.)

It's a shame, a lot of my family is Mormon and almost all of them that I have met outside of Utah are good folk.

...but the long and the short is that they are good people or not, they are still following an 1800s version of L. Ron Hubbard.

Anonymous Stan D. Ground June 17, 2016 2:00 PM  

I appreciate all the comments. Thanks guys.

Blogger praetorian June 17, 2016 2:05 PM  

Say what one will, and I'll agree with most of it, but there are a lot of catholics who give a shit, and for whom 732 and 1683 still mean something.

Blogger Sheila4g June 17, 2016 2:13 PM  

@7 Stan D Ground: "Does anyone have advice for a recently redpilled interested in returning to Christianity?"

Lots of good advice in the thread. Let me add a few concrete rather than theological suggestions - read the Faith and Heritage blog for some good, biblically based thought on being a red-pilled, ethno-nationalist Christian. There's also a list of churches maintained by Chuck Baldwin (he was a megachurch pastor in Florida who moved to Montana and seems quite red-pilled). He calls it the "black regiment," after the preachers who supported the American revolution. I'm not certain what specific requirements he has for those churches listed, but I know his own church is not tax-exempt so he can and does preach his mind about all subjects. The link to the black regiment churches is at the bottom of his web page.

Anonymous Takin' a Look June 17, 2016 2:41 PM  

Stay away from the Cyrus Scofield Apostasty. About all I can offer.

Blogger FALPhil June 17, 2016 2:41 PM  

@123 Sheila4g
The link to the black regiment churches is at the bottom of his web page.

The problem I have with the list is that, in my state, all the churches he lists are dunkers. Trdition and the mode and meaning of baptism are important to me, so I would still have to be looking if I went by that list.

Blogger Were-Puppy June 17, 2016 2:47 PM  

@66 John Williams

Most likely it'll look like a clear path to the stage. Reading Lind last night, the German "walk right in defense" was mentioned and a name was given to one of Vox's favorite tactics.
---

In one of my martial arts, that is called a trap.

Anonymous JAG June 17, 2016 2:48 PM  

@65 - acutally Alttrash is trying to make itself feel good. In a sick and twisted way liberals get off on accusing their enemies of ridiculous assertions of the most hateful nature. Often they are projecting as the SJW manual notes. Probably the case here as well.

Alttrash is obviously in need of its two minutes of hate and we are its chosen Emmanuel Goldstein. It is actually quite amusing.

Blogger Were-Puppy June 17, 2016 3:06 PM  

@124 Takin' a Look
Stay away from the Cyrus Scofield Apostasty. About all I can offer.
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Whats the apostasy? I think I have a scofield bible somewhere.

Blogger Dire Badger June 17, 2016 3:09 PM  

@Praetorian #117-
"Why in wouldn't we want the jews to have a homeland?"

Why wouldn't we want the Palestinians to have a homeland?

The fact is, it's up to the individuals involved to establish, and more importantly keep, a homeland.

We shouldn't even be involved. Any involvement we have is because we have been manipulated into a huge game of 'Let's you and him fight'.

If the desert tribes swallow isreal, or if isreal destroys itself glassing the lot of them, is NOT OUR PROBLEM. I say build a wall around the ME and let their gods sort 'em out.

Anonymous Thomas June 17, 2016 3:40 PM  

Stan.
Let me put in another vote for the SSPX(Society of Saint Pius X). In Five years I have gone from an indifferent Assembly of God Protestant to an active, Confirmed SSPX Catholic. After taking the Catechism classes, I learned the truth about Catholicism. The Catholic Faith as practiced looks very little like the bland "Cultural Catholic Faith" as portrayed in Movies and TV, and Jokes. Real Catholicism is much more than a Punchline. The SSPX is dedicated to preserving the Remnant of Faith that God has promised. You will find no better church, I assure you. One Note. SSPX Churches are not as "Touchy Feely" as many Protestant Churches, and can come off as a bit "Formal" at first. Rest assured though that they are glad to have you there and will loosen up over time.

Blogger Gaiseric June 17, 2016 3:45 PM  

Were-Puppy wrote:Whats the apostasy? I think I have a scofield bible somewhere.
I've never heard it called the Cyrus Scofield apostasy before, but Cyrus Scofield was pretty instrumental in establishing the dispensationalist interpretation of scripture.

Blogger Were-Puppy June 17, 2016 3:53 PM  

I look that up and find this:

"Dispensationalism, as a system, results in a premillennial interpretation of Christ’s second coming and usually a pretribulational interpretation of the rapture."

Not sure why this would be a heresy. Not interested in some religion war here, was just curious. That Scofield I have is packed somewhere in another state.

Blogger LES June 17, 2016 3:54 PM  

@131
Also known as the John Nelson Darby apostasy.

OpenID frankluke June 17, 2016 4:08 PM  

@113 (The Eastern Orthodox as a similar good track record with that, but I have yet to meet a Protestant who knows the names of the men in charge of his denomination without having to look it up. Could just be the Protestants I know, but I also do not see their names in the news.)

Oh, I wish you'd asked me in some of our conversations. Though AG history has come up a time or two (E.N. Bell for sure and G. Raymond Carlson, I believe, two historical leaders of the fellowship). You may now make that "exactly one Protestant I know could name his leadership, yet even he had to check two names from his Big Six." :)

Assemblies of God:
Superintendent: George O. Wood.
Assistant Super: Alton Garrison
Secretary: [Doug Clay]
Treasurer: James Bradford
Home Missions: Zollie [Smith]
World Mission: Greg Mundis

[Brackets, I had to look it up. John Palmer was Gen Sec before Clay, but he stepped down. And I could not remember Zollie's last name for the life of me.]

At the Iowa district level, we are led by Tom Jacobs who succeeded George Arrowood.

Blogger FALPhil June 17, 2016 4:49 PM  

@132 Were-puppy
Not sure why this would be a heresy. Not interested in some religion war here, was just curious.

Pretty simple really. Dispensationalism essentially has different means of salvation depending on group and time. In order to support it with scripture, you have to drag the scripture way out of context. It doesn't stand up to a hermeneutical or even a dialectic examination. But it gives a lot of people a warm fuzzy about their chances of getting into Heaven. It is often found among denominations that favor works over grace.

Blogger Aeoli Pera June 17, 2016 6:11 PM  

We live in the Valley of the Shadow of Death and we fear no evil, we hunt the fuckers in the Name of Christendom and the Risen Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth.

Skol!

Anonymous SciVo June 17, 2016 6:32 PM  

Takin' a Look wrote:You realize quite a few Jews have lost the plot and degenerated into delusional, narcissistic psycho-babble. They truly believe they are Chosen and Called to Tikkun Olem by God (or History for the secular jews). That the goyim will whither and die without jews as the global "joints and junctures". The more sensible-minded jews need to step up and stop this insanity.

Jewish Supremacism is just a rationalization for doing whatever benefits them and their Tribe, which is why they so love to give away other people's money, to keep the Hamster quiet over their choice to live where there's more opportunity and less need.

Blogger ray June 17, 2016 7:13 PM  

"We live in the Valley of the Shadow of Death and we fear no evil, we hunt the fuckers in the Name of Christendom and the Risen Lord (((Jesus))) Christ of Nazareth."


Fixed and yr welcome.

Blogger ray June 17, 2016 7:26 PM  

"Because Supreme Dark Lord. No protester will ever reach a stage on which I appear, as there are multiple layers of defense in depth and not all of them are apparent."


Wow you guys must be awful important celebrities to rate that kind of security! And somebody threatened to punch one of you? Goodness gracious. And somebody tossed a drink and said bad words? No wonder y'all have so much security.

Any of you ever been arrested and/or charged for standing up? How about ACTUALLY punched, or worse? How about losing your jobs for being Dark Lords? Stuff like that?

Online harassment, that's just daily bread. E-mail attacks, credit card attacks, threats against our lives, standard. The rest of us manage without layers of security. Course we're just grasshoppers and not Dark Lords.

Anonymous Takin' a Look June 17, 2016 7:47 PM  

@ Ray

Christ was a Galilean. Of an ancient hebrew line not admixed with the Edomite Pharisees who converted under John of Hyrcanus and who, along with other conquered and forcilbly converted peoples, made up the bulk of the "hebrews" at this time.

Modern day jews overwhemingly trace their spiritual and genetic lineage through the Edomites.

Blogger Harold June 17, 2016 7:56 PM  

I was born and raised Methodist. Never formally left the church, but haven't been to one in decades. Usually when I attend services it's mass with my wife, whose family is more Catholic then the Pope. (Anyone who has lived around a large number of Catholics knows exactly what I mean by that.)

I would avoid the Methodist Church of today. I have read reliable sources that the Methodist Church has the highest percentage of atheist pastors of any church. But when they suffer their Crisis of Faith, they don't leave the church as they should. The retirement plan is too good. So they stay on and minister, performing the rituals and all for their flock, while simultaneously disbelieving any of it.

One of my wife's cousins who was steered to the priesthood from an early age by his family became an Eastern Rite Catholic. He wanted to be married and have kids, but not leave the Church. It's a strange relationship. They're in Communion with the Roman Catholic Church, and are Catholic, but not Roman Catholic.... Like the Orthodox, they seem to be pretty serious about their religion.

Blogger Harold June 17, 2016 8:03 PM  

http://www.catholiceducation.org/en/culture/catholic-contributions/the-eastern-rite-church.html

Little info about Eastern Rite Catholics

Anonymous andon June 17, 2016 8:22 PM  

@ #139 Ray

speak some unpopular opinions (under your real name) for the whole world to hear and then shoot your mouth off.

Anonymous Takin' a Look June 17, 2016 8:36 PM  

@ andon

W/r to ray, I see pain in his comment. It's not an excuse, just an observation. Ray, I suggest you bite your tongue. Vox and quite a few other alt-righters have suffered. I know nothing of your circumstances and I will not ask for clarification. I am not a Christian, but I say a prayer for you in the name of Christ Jesus.

I will never know who you are and you will never know me. Let us be good to each other even if it is behind pseudonyms.

Blogger Scott Birch June 17, 2016 9:12 PM  

ray is new here.

Blogger James Dixon June 17, 2016 9:31 PM  

> Any of you ever been arrested and/or charged for standing up? How about ACTUALLY punched, or worse?

You ever get tired of not having any idea what you're talking about, Ray?

> How about losing your jobs for being Dark Lords? Stuff like that?

That's the whole point of being the Dark Lord. He's outside their reach.

> ray is new here.

You think?

Blogger Gapeseed June 17, 2016 9:41 PM  

@ray - Here's the thing about Jesus. He was either telling the truth and thus was the Messiah worthy of worship by Jews (and everyone else), or an apostate worthy, under Jewish law of expulsion and death. Jews had the opportunity to claim Jesus, and many individuals did at the cost of their lives. Collectively, though, Jews rejected Jesus, and thus, Jesus did not end a Jew as Jews understand it. As such, your brackets are unwarranted.

Blogger Lazarus June 17, 2016 9:58 PM  

Milo chimes in:


And You Thought The Alt-Right Was Bad! The Day ‘Arabic Twitter’ Threatened To Bomb, Decapitate And Sodomize Me

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 17, 2016 10:17 PM  

@ray, just, ... just
Fuck you, dude. you're a dickhole.

Blogger S1AL June 17, 2016 10:35 PM  

I believe you mean: ---<((Vox Day))>

The Alt-Right's favorite Uncle Tomahawk.

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus June 17, 2016 10:45 PM  

@ 135 - Dispensationalism essentially has different means of salvation depending on group and time.

While this may be the view of a very small minority of hyperdispensationalists, this is a grossly inaccurate representation of what mainstream dispensationalism teaches.

Blogger dfordoom June 17, 2016 10:49 PM  

@47. John Wilson Bach

our church recently put a woman in charge of worship.

Get out of that church as fast as you can. Seriously.

And once you have one woman in a leadership position pretty soon you'll have only women in leadership positions.

Anonymous Takin' a Look June 17, 2016 11:17 PM  

@ Titus QQ

It's apostasty dating from the 1840s and expanded on by Cyrus Scofield and his New York Six. No established Niceane Occident,Oriental or Protestant Christian Denomination accepted it. It is a judeo-christian abomination that has resulted in zionism, rapturism and "good samaritanism".

The Mormons at least were honest about their heresy. This is a vile, mental sodomitism; truly an opium and wormwood of "fuzzy feelings".

Christ says He will save all and has already paid the price. This is a satanic refutation saying the events of 70 AD were not enough to fulfill His prophecy.

Anonymous Takin' a Look June 17, 2016 11:36 PM  

Let me correct myself...

((((Judeo)))-///christian\\\

Anonymous Camilla Cameo June 17, 2016 11:39 PM  

@141 whose family is more Catholic then the Pope.

That doesn't take much with the current Pope!

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 18, 2016 1:12 AM  

Hell, Markku is more Catholic than the current pope.

At least he acknowledges Christ as God, King and Savior

Blogger Harold June 18, 2016 1:31 AM  

@155 I knew, just knew for sure, that someone was going to say that. I was thinking it even as I hit teh publish button.

Blogger Kona Commuter June 18, 2016 3:56 AM  

Sorry to ask. Colour me ignorant (not a bad word), but WTF is up with names being surrounded by multiple parenthesis?

Blogger Dire Badger June 18, 2016 5:03 AM  

I am more Catholic than the new pope, and I am agnostic.

Blogger Dire Badger June 18, 2016 5:04 AM  

@158- (((Jew)))
like (((Hollywood))) and (((Global Finance Consortium)))
The AD League has called the brackets 'anti semitism'

Anonymous SciVo June 18, 2016 5:25 AM  

Gaiseric wrote:I didn't know Mike Cernovich was (((Mike Cernovich))). Or is he just joking to make a point?

It's true that people say he is, as with (((Milo Yiannopolous))). I suppose they could be part echo, but I don't care.

Blogger Lazza C June 18, 2016 6:40 AM  

Amen and amen.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 18, 2016 9:53 AM  

@Groot
Gnaw off your own....stamens? uhhhh, let me work this out....

Anonymous Morrakiu's press secretary June 18, 2016 10:00 AM  

Sorry to ask. Colour me ignorant (not a bad word), but WTF is up with names being surrounded by multiple parenthesis?

There's some links to the explanation in the upthread comments. I'd give you the comment #'s, but they don't appear in the chrome mobile browser.

Just scroll up until you see blue, its not like there's been many links in this thread.

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