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Saturday, June 25, 2016

Just wait, Germany

I don't think the German leadership has yet understood the lesson of #Brexit:
German Leadership Aghast at a Brexit It Helped Cause

Germans – especially German politicians – are waking up this morning to the Brexit reality, and their initial reactions are predictable.  Shock appears to be the overwhelming emotion, followed closely by sadness, anger, and then subdued panic.

The Social Democratic Party, a partner in the governing black-red coalition, has called for an emergency session of the Bundestag today.  (One wonders what this would accomplish except perhaps to issue a statement aimed at shoring up EU solidarity in other wavering member states, or maybe just express petulance.)  Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier spoke of a “sad day for Europe and Great Britain,” while the leader of the Left faction, Sahra Wagenknecht, used the occasion to lambaste the influence of corporations and lobbyists in Brussels (a non-factor in the British vote, as far as I know).

One of the more thoughtful commentaries today is from Torsten Krauel in the right-of-center Die Welt.  Krauel asks whether German Chancellor Merkel is partially to blame for the Brexit and concludes her asylum policy almost certainly played a major role.  And indeed, the spectacle of Germany unilaterally deciding to change the face and future of the European Union by announcing Berlin had opened the doors to all comers – regardless of the wishes of or the impact this would have on other EU states – has been a powerful symbol of elite disconnect with the concerns of average Europeans and an uncomfortable reminder that Germany has come to dominate the union.  Krauel also points out Dover, the British end of the Channel Tunnel to the continent, voted 60 percent to leave.  Maybe this has something to do with the thousands of North African migrants seeking to storm the tunnel and cross to England?

While loathe to admit it, Germans at some level suspect their country’s role in the discontent in Britain.  Speaking to German friends over the past several years, it’s been difficult not to come away with the sense many view the EU as an extension of Germany policy and as a respectable outlet for German nationalism that has been suppressed since the end of World War II.  A new path to German greatness, if you will, camouflaged by warm and fuzzy words about “Europeaness” and immune to complaints of skeptics, all of whom immediately are labeled as right-wing extremists – the kiss of death in German politics.

For me, one of the takeaways from the referendum is the reminder that people care deeply about things other than pure economic interest.
Imagine how surprised the German elites will be when their own nationalists throw them out of power, and if justice is served, put them on trial for their crimes against the nation.

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96 Comments:

Blogger St Swithun June 25, 2016 10:39 AM  

Another Bremainiac lie unravels
"75 million Turks on course for visa-free travel in EU, despite not meeting key targets in refugee swap deal"
( http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/02/turkey-expected-to-get-eu-travel-even-if-key-conditions-not-met/ )
Perhaps the 'Turkey won't enter the EU till the year 3000' would like to STFU now.
The British CBI has now come out and said Brexit is a terminal issue.
Stocks ended the week just 3% down from it's start.

Blogger St Swithun June 25, 2016 10:41 AM  

SORRY 'not' a terminal issue for British industry.
Still catching up on sleep from Independence Day night

Blogger The Other Robot June 25, 2016 10:42 AM  

To what extent does the media share some of the blame for the Brexit result?

In pushing the polls that suggested that Remain would win, did they encourage those who might have voted remain to stay home?

It would be delicious irony if so.

Blogger Lucas June 25, 2016 10:51 AM  

German politicians are owned by the Money Power. They are traitors but they are pawns.

Blogger The Other Robot June 25, 2016 10:53 AM  

OT, but when Trump takes the presidency, I wonder if there might be an accident by the US navy near Iran:

Other video clips showing some of the 10 sailors crying sparked additional international outrage. Secretary of State John Kerry had thanked the Iranians for their treatment of the Navy sailors before the video showing the apology and crying was released.

Anonymous BGKB June 25, 2016 10:54 AM  

gay jewish german defense minister to Merkel "Have you tried calling them racist again, maybe they didn't hear you"

In pushing the polls that suggested that Remain would win, did they encourage those who might have voted remain to stay home?

I heard there was a big pot smoking festival in Glasgow on voting day.

Anonymous A Visitor June 25, 2016 11:04 AM  

I was explaining to the girlfriend about Brexit. I'm still kind of in disbelief that it happened although I am very happy for our British cousins. I was waiting on getting my car back for maintenance yesterday in talking with a friend who is a dual citizen of the US in another country that shall remain nameless . He believes that Trump is not serious about winning the election. I told him a bunch of points including how the media lied about Brexit and are doing the same thing re Trump. He still is unconvinced. November is going to be a slaughter! Starting next year and every year hence I shall raise a glass of Newcastle on June 23 two our British cousins' newfound freedom.

Anonymous dh June 25, 2016 11:20 AM  

Newcastle is gross, you can do better than that

Blogger St Swithun June 25, 2016 11:33 AM  

'Newkie' Brown is a student favourite, it's okay. But there are others. McEwan's Export (an India Pale Ale) is rather good. Hobgoblin.

Blogger The Other Robot June 25, 2016 11:39 AM  

Let me clarify @5:

Since the Iranian sailors seem to have very lax weapons discipline and he US Navy can pretty much do what it wants between November and Jan 20 ...

Blogger Rusty Fife June 25, 2016 11:40 AM  

dh wrote:Newcastle is gross, you can do better than that

London dry gin dirty martini; salty for remembrance of Bremain tears.

Anonymous John Steed June 25, 2016 11:44 AM  

Looks like Vox`s Pub is open for biz...

Anonymous Jay Will June 25, 2016 12:03 PM  

The Germans were conquered 70 years ago. They've been doing what their masters tell them to do ever since. Brexit is Trump, which means knocking these globalists down to size. Well done to all the people who have helped make it happen. I try to do stuff on facebook with friends, likely too ranty, but the mindset is changing Im openly saying in public now that racism is bullshit.

This is a great blog, good luck to all of you on here, MAGA!

Blogger Duinne Eile June 25, 2016 12:19 PM  

I'm not 100% sure the Brits will leave

The EU is a bit like the hotel California, You can check out anytime you like but you can never leave

Blogger Were-Puppy June 25, 2016 12:34 PM  

This German commenter at BB last night told me:
"We are now alone in a union of mooching states"

Blogger Were-Puppy June 25, 2016 12:36 PM  

"Krauel asks whether German Chancellor Merkel is partially to blame for the Brexit and concludes her asylum policy almost certainly played a major role."

I found it interesting that the same person told me that the EU migrant policy had no effect on BREXIT, as they weren't taking hardly any rapefugees.

No idea if that is true, but I do see a lot of videos of them in Calais ambushing trucks and vehicles attempting to get into the UK.

Blogger FALPhil June 25, 2016 12:39 PM  

@14 Duinne Eile
I'm not 100% sure the Brits will leave

And that is the burning issue. The referendum doesn't carry a lot of weight. I would bet even money that another referendum will be called before the year is out. A sort of, "We know you didn't really mean it" referendum.

The telling issue, though, is who got hurt by it - the uber-wealthy oligarchy types lost billions on paper. The central banks are flopping around like catfish on a hot pier.

The narrative drivers are working overtime at damage control. There will be lots of pressure to remain in spite of the referendum.

Blogger The Other Robot June 25, 2016 12:39 PM  

This is a great blog, good luck to all of you on here, MAGA!

Who knew that KRAV MAGA stood for: Keep Republicans Anti Vagina, Make America Great Again?

Blogger FALPhil June 25, 2016 12:40 PM  

@14 Duinne Eile
I'm not 100% sure the Brits will leave

And that is the burning issue. The referendum doesn't carry a lot of weight. I would bet even money that another referendum will be called before the year is out. A sort of, "We know you didn't really mean it" referendum.

The telling issue, though, is who got hurt by it - the uber-wealthy oligarchy types lost billions on paper. The central banks are flopping around like catfish on a hot pier.

The narrative drivers are working overtime at damage control. There will be lots of pressure to remain in spite of the referendum.

Blogger Lobo Util June 25, 2016 12:41 PM  

Merkel only wants to have the immigrants to replace the children not being born to Germans. She says they need 800,000 immigrants to work in their factories. Magic dirt will turn them into productive, educated, hard working, focused, obedient, law abiding Teutonic workers.

Anonymous GreyS June 25, 2016 12:45 PM  

...and concludes her asylum policy almost certainly played a major role

Almost certainly? Journalists can't for the life of them make any definitive pronouncements unless it involves "racism" or Christianity.

Anonymous Elipe June 25, 2016 12:46 PM  

And these are the people that rule over you, folks.

Remember that. Remember that when the torches burn alight and the tips of the pitchforks clatter against the concrete streets.

Blogger Lazarus June 25, 2016 12:55 PM  

it’s been difficult not to come away with the sense many view the EU as an extension of Germany policy and as a respectable outlet for German nationalism that has been suppressed since the end of World War II.

Wait...what? Stealth Nationalism? National Globalism?

What.

Anonymous Jack Amok June 25, 2016 12:57 PM  

London dry gin dirty martini

Rum punch to go along with hoisting the black flag.

Anonymous Jack Amok June 25, 2016 1:01 PM  

"We are now alone in a union of mooching states"

That's the general fate of empires, isn't it? The elites squander the resources of the core nation acquiring power and wealth from abroad for themselves.

Blogger Lovekraft June 25, 2016 1:27 PM  

@19: "And that is the burning issue. The referendum doesn't carry a lot of weight. I would bet even money that another referendum will be called before the year is out. A sort of, "We know you didn't really mean it" referendum."

Don't have the link, but read today that there's a petition with a million signatures demanding a revote.

Blogger Escoffier June 25, 2016 1:32 PM  

I've always been partial to boddington's myself.

Anonymous Jack Amok June 25, 2016 1:34 PM  

Don't have the link, but read today that there's a petition with a million signatures demanding a revote.

That's a funny way to spell "revolt."

Blogger The Other Robot June 25, 2016 1:50 PM  

Don't have the link, but read today that there's a petition with a million signatures demanding a revote.

The EU might be irrelevant by the time they manage to have a revote.

Blogger The Other Robot June 25, 2016 1:55 PM  

Scotland will not be denied its gimedats

Blogger The Other Robot June 25, 2016 2:04 PM  

OT, but SJWs seem paranoid:

SJWs enraged at Nintendo over Paper Mario mushroom pun and etc

Blogger Rusty Fife June 25, 2016 2:12 PM  

Jack Amok wrote:London dry gin dirty martini

Rum punch to go along with hoisting the black flag.


Only Pusser's will do.

Anonymous Garrulus June 25, 2016 2:16 PM  

There are a few countries that pay more into the EU than Germany, like Netherlands.

Blogger JaimeInTexas June 25, 2016 2:50 PM  

Rusty, is it the punch?

Blogger The Other Robot June 25, 2016 2:52 PM  

Cuckservatives saythey wont lower immigration anyway, so fuck you working class Britain.

Blogger Salt June 25, 2016 2:54 PM  

Time for the Germans to hear the sound of the drums.

Blogger Were-Puppy June 25, 2016 3:02 PM  

The Other Robot wrote:Scotland will not be denied its gimedats

Wouldn't Scotland have to get out of the UK to get into the EU?

And if that happened, how soon would the EU begin flooding Scotland with muslims, giving them easy access back into England?

Blogger psychegram June 25, 2016 3:03 PM  

"Don't have the link, but read today that there's a petition with a million signatures demanding a revote."

If the second vote goes to Remain, does leave get to insist on best two out of three?

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 25, 2016 3:08 PM  

FALPhil wrote:And that is the burning issue. The referendum doesn't carry a lot of weight. I would bet even money that another referendum will be called before the year is out. A sort of, "We know you didn't really mean it" referendum.

That will be the purpose of the upcoming General Election. Each party leader will have to take an explicit stand on exit, and can then claim a mandate for whatever his action will be.

Hoping for Farage, but hell, Boris Johnson would be good enough.

Blogger Cecil Henry June 25, 2016 3:12 PM  

The National Review doesnt get it either.

Nor do they get the issues in their own nation.

They refuse to. On 'principle'.

Blogger Salt June 25, 2016 3:13 PM  

Were-Puppy wrote:And if that happened, how soon would the EU begin flooding Scotland with muslims, giving them easy access back into England?

Build a wall and have the Scots pay for it.

Blogger Duinne Eile June 25, 2016 3:44 PM  

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Blogger Duinne Eile June 25, 2016 3:50 PM  

@ Snidely Whiplash

Boris doesn't want to leave the EU, he only wanted to be PM

He's like a dog chasing cars, he wouldn't know what to do with one if he caught one

Cameron has done him up like a kipper

Anonymous Bob Just June 25, 2016 3:56 PM  

@35 @39 Who is this (c)Arsewell fellow and why/how are they excluding Sir Nigel, Knight of the People from post-Brexit negotiations?

Blogger Duinne Eile June 25, 2016 3:58 PM  

Nigel is only an MEP, he failed to get elected to parliament, I doubt he will have any part in the brexit negotiations

Blogger The Other Robot June 25, 2016 4:08 PM  

Hey, BGKB, I wonder if we could get the Pink Pistols to change their name to The Rainbow Pistols?

Wells Fargo needs to be trolled.

Blogger weka June 25, 2016 4:38 PM  

The Herald is butthurt today. They are arguing that it was the oldies who voted out. And that there are two million signatures for another referendum.

Time to sign Article 50.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11663622

Anonymous Spartacus xxxxx June 25, 2016 4:56 PM  

Salt wrote:Were-Puppy wrote:And if that happened, how soon would the EU begin flooding Scotland with muslims, giving them easy access back into England?

Build a wall and have the Scots pay for it.



Nice one. But they tell the story differently over there about how copper wire was invented.

Anonymous Jay Will June 25, 2016 5:32 PM  

That scum bitch who had a pop at Lauren Southern. Absolute fucking cunt. So close to hate turning to violence. Just waiting for support, a sense that I have a genuine armed side that has my best interests and I have theirs. Evil stuff going on, messing with peoples natural states. These Western leaders deserve to die now, peaceful revolution would be unjust. They are on the WRONG SIDE OF HISTORY. My mate is a scum sucker will never bother with the prick again until he makes it clear he isn't one of them. He is a CUNT by association. He doesn't need to disavow its already too fucking late.

Blogger bob k. mando June 25, 2016 5:44 PM  

48. Spartacus xxxxx June 25, 2016 4:56 PM
Nice one. But they tell the story differently over there about how copper wire was invented.



oh? and how do they tell it over there?

does it involve a British Pound in a Scotsman's butt?

http://www.dailydot.com/lol/chuck-tingle-brexit/?tw=dd

Anonymous #8601 Jean Valjean June 25, 2016 5:45 PM  

That's MISS Southern!

Blogger residentMoron June 25, 2016 5:48 PM  

About that poll for another referendum?

80% of signers are not from Britain.

You get 22 guesses where they are from ...

Blogger Karl June 25, 2016 6:12 PM  

One of the interesting observations I saw was that some millenial remain supporter was saying that they expected more celebration by supporters of exit. Then someone else pointed out that people who object too much to immigration on social media in the UK tend to get arrested.

ofc we have something similar here in the U.S. - see this about the Twin Falls assault case.

http://www.localnews8.com/news/U-S-Attorney-issues-statement-on-assault-of-Twin-Falls-5-year-old/40209396

"The spread of false information or inflammatory or threatening statements about the perpetrators or the crime itself reduces public safety and may violate federal law. We have seen time and again that the spread of falsehoods about refugees divides our communities."

and I won't link to Salon but Amanda Marcotte basically wrote an sample essay illustrating SJWs always lie about Twin Falls.



Blogger Anonymous-9 June 25, 2016 6:15 PM  

Once again, a German leader makes a rash, sweeping decision to decide the fate of millions of people, and screws the whole thing up for all of Europe. I'm seeing a pattern here.

Anonymous Spartacus xxxxx June 25, 2016 6:41 PM  

bob k. mando wrote:48. Spartacus xxxxx June 25, 2016 4:56 PM

Nice one. But they tell the story differently over there about how copper wire was invented.


oh? and how do they tell it over there?

does it involve a British Pound in a Scotsman's butt?



In for a penny, in for a pounding by the pound.

Blogger Matthew June 25, 2016 7:17 PM  

Cecil Henry wrote:National Review doesnt get it either.

Do you think that after WFB died gracelessly, nobody remembered that NR is supposed to be a branch of the CIA?

Blogger Aeoli Pera June 25, 2016 7:20 PM  

OT: There was some discussion back during Hugo season about the webcomic SSSS. The artist, Minna, appears to be running afoul of the SJW fans in her comments and other correspondence.

See the accompanying blog post to this comic (below).

Fans of the comic around here might want to keep an eye on the situation in case we want to put on our paladin armor and help her out.

Blogger Aeoli Pera June 25, 2016 7:26 PM  

The "offensive" comic. Apparently the SJWs can't handle the idea that Minna wasn't conforming to the List of Approved Names for Things, which is byzantine and updated weekly.

Anonymous Patron June 25, 2016 7:44 PM  

@26 Here's the details on the "get it right this time" Brexit referendum:

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215

JSON data for those interested: https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215.json

"We the undersigned call upon HM Government to implement a rule that if the remain or leave vote is less than 60% based a turnout less than 75% there should be another referendum."

It was created on 23rd May (opened on the 25th May), so quite a while before Brexit was announced. The threshold to trigger a debate in Parliament (100,000 signatures) was only reached on the 24th June however.

I went through the JSON data myself, and a little over 100,000 of the signatures are from countries outside of the UK. The other 2.5M were from inside the UK, although seeing as to sign it you need only...

-Name
-Email address
-Post Code
-Location (Pick a country)
-Checkbox to promise that you're a British citizen or UK resident

... it would be trivially easy to fill it with fakes. Not sure whether this is true - there are lots of anti-democratic Remain supporters in meltdown out there - but for those of a more conspiratorial bent... well this ain't going to discourage you, let me put it that way.

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There certainly seems to be quite a lot of demands for a referendum to get the "correct" result in the media & elsewhere, or to simply ignore it...

http://order-order.com/2016/06/25/lammy-mps-ignore-referendum-result

Plus all the usual MSM news sources etc...

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Finally, I leave you with these.

http://i.imgur.com/7zhnPaQ.png
http://i.imgur.com/2EtVQe6.jpg

Anonymous JAG June 25, 2016 8:06 PM  

It is most fortunate that Britain voted just in time to still have control over its own destiny. The voting of various demographic blocks shows that the globalist soft genocide of the white race will work given enough time to dilute native white populations. Brexit happened before the point of no return.

Even better is that the rest of Europe should follow suit by quitting the EU, and then export all of their rapefugees directly to Berlin. Merkel wanted them so bad she can have the entire lot of them.

Anonymous andon June 25, 2016 8:18 PM  

Imagine how surprised the German elites will be when their own nationalists throw them out of power, and if justice is served, put them on trial for their crimes against the nation.

i hope this happens here in the U.S. too
so many traitors

Anonymous r June 25, 2016 9:19 PM  

@7

Trump persuasion can have a delayed effect. All you need to do is plant the seeds and wait.

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Blogger philbert53rogers June 25, 2016 9:35 PM  

OT: I keep hearing and reading how horrible Millennials are and while I cant disagree on some fronts, its frustrating for me as one to keep getting slammed by the generations before that enabled the left to indoctrinate us. I say all this to ask is it to far gone for us? Do I just stop talking to my peers about the issues? Do i wait till the school of hard knocks kicks a few down? Not to hijack the thread but if western civilization is going to survive the next generation has to be brought up to speed before the generation before kicks it.

Anonymous BGKB June 25, 2016 9:54 PM  

Rum punch to go along with hoisting the black flag.

Even I am afraid to look at MILOs personal twitter account @Caligula.

OT, but SJWs seem paranoid: SJWs enraged at Nintendo over Paper Mario mushroom pun and etc

She could have avoided that by not cheating on her boyfriend with 5 guys.

Cuckservatives saythey wont lower immigration anyway, so fuck you working class Britain.

Maybe MP Cox will get some company in hell.

"Don't have the link, but read today that there's a petition with a million signatures demanding a revote."

Everyone on the dole was automatically signed up.

46 BGKB, I wonder if we could get the Pink Pistols to change their name to The Rainbow Pistols?

Wells Fargo needs to be trolled.

"Wells Fargo: Ad with Gay Couple Reflects 'Demographic Reality'" of people who don't leave the echo chamber of the gayborhood. It probably would have been easy before Orlando

80% of signers are not from Britain. You get 22 guesses where they are from Israel?

see this about the Twin Falls assault case. That would be telling

Here I turned out to be wrong when I said about didndus being 1/2 the way to raping age by the time they could pass mirror self recognition tests, in fact it is almost the opposite of what I said. Its a good thing the refusegee kids had an obamaphone to record it.
"As Mr. Loebs and Chief Kingsbury informed the public, the subjects in this case are juveniles, ages 14, 10 and 7."

Blogger Badger Brigadon June 25, 2016 10:01 PM  

It looks like the German socialists just don't realize that they are fucking up Europe. again.

Anonymous A Hard BUCKAROO June 25, 2016 10:11 PM  

Where’s Hugo Award Nominated Author Dr. Tingle when we need him?

Andrea Merkel, Pounded In Her Exit By The Brexit

Anonymous A Hard BUCKAROO June 25, 2016 10:12 PM  

Where’s Hugo Award Nominated Author Dr. Tingle when we need him?

Andrea Merkel, Pounded In Her Exit By The Brexit

Anonymous Bellator Mortalis June 25, 2016 10:14 PM  

@64 -- it is natural for the younger generation (say younger than 25) to be more concerned with work, promotions, sex, mating rituals, music, sex, drugs, working out, sex, and "fitting in" with the dominant memes natural to that age. It is how we develop as humans. Only after we establish ourselves in the sexual and economic hierarchies can we pause, lift our heads up, and focus on the big picture.

Blogger Frank Brady June 25, 2016 10:27 PM  

The Brexit result opens the door. See http://gatetoliberty.blogspot.com/2016/06/brexit-just-in-time-suicide-of.html

Blogger Lazarus June 25, 2016 10:30 PM  

philbert53rogers wrote:Do i wait till the school of hard knocks kicks a few down? Not to hijack the thread but if western civilization is going to survive the next generation has to be brought up to speed before the generation before kicks it.

Your mission, philbert53rogers, should you decide to accept it, is to promote their awareness as soon as possible.… As usual, should you or any member of your I.M. Force be captured or killed, we will disavow any knowledge of your existence. This comment will self-destruct in five seconds. Good luck, philbert53rogers.

Anonymous BGKB June 25, 2016 10:30 PM  

Where’s Hugo Award Nominated Author Dr. Tingle when we need him? Andrea Merkel, Pounded In Her Exit By The Brexit

I think Germany's gay jewish justice minister would make an appearance.

Blogger Lazarus June 25, 2016 10:32 PM  

A Hard BUCKAROO wrote:Where’s Hugo Award Nominated Author Dr. Tingle when we need him?

Andrea Merkel, Pounded In Her Exit By The Brexit


Political caricature cartoon featuring Merkel and Farage.

Why did you make me see that? You are a bad person.

Anonymous Headcannon June 25, 2016 10:40 PM  

OT: Is Kickstarter cool with pedo junk being funded through them?

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/digitalmanga/kodomo-no-jikan-a-childs-time/description

"Kodomo no Jikan sets itself apart from other manga by addressing controversial themes that nobody has dared to touch, and spinning it into a positive light. Watashiya challenges the reader's sense of morality. This is a highly recommended series if you like to explore unique subjects within literature. Best to be read with an open-mind."

SJWs sure love children, don't they?

Anonymous andon June 25, 2016 10:41 PM  

OT: does soros really fund this kind of garbage?

see the post on FEMEN International

http://bbs.dailystormer.com/t/mix-yourself-protect-yourself-french-aids-campaign-promotes-casual-interracial-sex-homosexuality/36936/7

Anonymous JAG June 25, 2016 10:52 PM  

@64 - Gen X grew up with that same leftist indoctrination in the public schools, but less of us fell for it than the millennials did. That's my main gripe. Not enough of you have taken the red pill.

Blogger Robert What? June 25, 2016 10:58 PM  

"Berlin had opened the doors to all comers"

Slight correction: Christian refugees are not welcome. Just like in the US.

Anonymous BrerFox June 25, 2016 11:06 PM  

They might be able to hide behind a veneer of 'literary suitability' for the work itself. But I'm not sure how you conceal the underage girl body pillow backer rewards..

Blogger Roger G2 June 25, 2016 11:08 PM  

Bring Merkel to trial? Sure. A good show trial, anyway, that's just me, dreaming up a more just and perfect world.
But when she and her cohorts are found guilty, I wouldn't care about the punishment as long as she were as forbidden and banned from German politics as were the Nazis. But like I said, "perfect world."

Anonymous SciVo June 25, 2016 11:15 PM  

Semi-OT: The Washington Post has misunderstood the lesson. Typical midwit linear thinking: Britain is 87% white and America is only 74% white, therefore Leave doesn't mean anything for Trump. They basically shrug their shoulders over whether whites will vote for nationalism at the same rate in each case, but there is no question about it.

To take one of my favorite examples, which I've cited here more than once before, Obama won a black & white doughnut in the 2008 Democrat primaries*. He won where blacks were less than 8% of the population, and he won where they were a lot more than that, but not the hole in the middle.

If blacks were more than 8% of the population, then there had to be enough more to make up for all the whites that he lost, because they had real-world experience. They were immunized against their own party's bullshit propaganda.

So we know the threshold; and with so many immigrants (many illegal and undercounted) in America today, our lower percentage of whites just means that more of us are going to be in the nationalist doughnut hole.

* Cited from memory of a county-level analysis performed at the time by some random stranger on the Daily Kos.

Blogger dfordoom June 25, 2016 11:17 PM  

@39. Snidely Whiplash

Hoping for Farage, but hell, Boris Johnson would be good enough.

Isn't Boris Johnson very much an open borders enthusiast?

Blogger Were-Puppy June 25, 2016 11:17 PM  

@64 philbert53rogers

Never give up. You will always find dime a dozen types bashing and blaming everyone for everything. Ignore them and move on.

Blogger dfordoom June 25, 2016 11:24 PM  

@44. Bob Just

Who is this (c)Arsewell fellow

He's an insane enthusiast for total open borders.

The most likely result of Brexit will be a huge increase in the UK's immigration intake. Brexit was a good idea but it needed to be followed up. The follow-up should have involved lamp posts. The entire British political class is composed of traitorous globalist scum. They may have to accept Brexit but they haven't abandoned their long-term plans to utterly destroy English civilisation.

Blogger Were-Puppy June 25, 2016 11:24 PM  

@76 JAG
@64 - Gen X grew up with that same leftist indoctrination in the public schools, but less of us fell for it than the millennials did. That's my main gripe. Not enough of you have taken the red pill.
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Many of us Gen Xers had the opportunity to have met our Grandparents and Great Grandparents who were from the WWII and before generations. The Millenials probably didn't have that, and having to rely only on Boomers have lost that connection to a greater past of the US.

Blogger Lazarus June 25, 2016 11:43 PM  



Roger G2 wrote:Bring Merkel to trial? Sure. A good show trial, anyway, that's just me, dreaming up a more just and perfect world.

But when she and her cohorts are found guilty, I wouldn't care about the punishment as long as she were as forbidden and banned from German politics as were the Nazis.



Show Merkel this:

Nicolae Ceausescu sentence and execution 1989

Blogger dfordoom June 25, 2016 11:52 PM  

@76. JAG

Gen X grew up with that same leftist indoctrination in the public schools, but less of us fell for it than the millennials did. That's my main gripe. Not enough of you have taken the red pill.

No-one wants to take the red pill when they're in their 20s. Most people don't start to really question things until they reach their late 30s, or even later. It's all about coming to the realisation that the real world doesn't resemble the fantasy world portrayed by the media and the schools. It's also about developing confidence in your own ability to form your own judgments.

When I was young all the young people I knew were convinced leftists. Now they're conservatives.

It's going to be interesting to see if the natural tendency of people to adopt a more reality-based belief system as they get older will be strong enough to counteract the massive indoctrination of the Millennials.

Anonymous SciVo June 25, 2016 11:55 PM  

philbert53rogers wrote:OT: I keep hearing and reading how horrible Millennials are and while I cant disagree on some fronts, its frustrating for me as one to keep getting slammed by the generations before that enabled the left to indoctrinate us. I say all this to ask is it to far gone for us? Do I just stop talking to my peers about the issues? Do i wait till the school of hard knocks kicks a few down? Not to hijack the thread but if western civilization is going to survive the next generation has to be brought up to speed before the generation before kicks it.

We've actually been going easy on you. As a rump generation, Gen-X was largely locked out of lifetime employment track jobs -- which Boomers would only let go if we pried them out of their cold dead hands -- and also had little influence in public policy. And now that the Boomers are finally fading away, the Millenials are going to outvote us instead. Lovely.

Pretty much the only thing we had going for us is that our generational vice -- every generation has one -- is cynicism verging on nihilism (so close that they could fairly be accused of dry-humping in public.) So at least we had a natural resistance to political correctness.

So now Millenials come around with such fuzzy heads that they can't tell a 5'8" white man from a 6'0" Chinese woman if that's what he says he is. (Literally, there's a video.) We could talk a lot more trash than we do, but I think that your generally confused helplessness and soft, neotenous features tug at our withered heartstrings.

Blogger weka June 26, 2016 1:45 AM  

We could talk a lot more trash than we do, but I think that your generally confused helplessness and soft, neotenous features tug at our withered heartstrings.

Our host and his wife would set up a diet and training programme for them. Heck, we all should be doing it. The tools are fairly easily found.

Eat real food.
Walk or run at least an hour a day, five days a week.
Lift weights three days a week.
Take one or two days off.

Adjust as necessary: you will start looking grown up human, not as baby manatees.

Blogger ace June 26, 2016 2:33 AM  

@74:

Funded! Honestly: kids who got fucked by their dads and kids who got abandoned by their dads... who turned out better?

Blogger Rek. June 26, 2016 3:05 AM  

+ get ur ass kicked. Martial arts, boxing, ...

Blogger The Overgrown Hobbit June 26, 2016 5:10 AM  

And not a one of you has mentioned "the savage breed without the law" on this or any of the other threads on the Hun.

Pshaw.

Anonymous Clay June 26, 2016 7:54 AM  

philbert53roger

Just wondering.

Where'd you get that Philibert name?

My mother/grandmother was a Philibert.

Blogger David Power June 26, 2016 10:11 AM  


The media, lead by the BBC, are in overdrive over here.

They are trotting out countless out of touch politicians and political pundits desperately trying to construct a convenient 'narrative' with which to dismiss this result. The favourite so far seems to be... "these are just uneducated working class white people, angry at not being given a pay rise lately".

Absolutely no acknowledgement that the reason they are angry is because they can see their own National, Cultural and Ethnic Identity being relentlessly eroded for decades by an unprecedented amount of mass-immigration from aggressively alien cultures. Sound familiar America?

A Labour MP has already called for parliament to ignore the referendum result. No prizes for guessing his ethnicity.

Cameron's instantaneous resignation has caught many Conservatives by surprise and the resulting leadership contest is already heating up to be an acrimonious one.

The way a Conservative Leadership Contest works is this... Conservative Members of parliament, through a series of votes, will whittle the leadership candidates down to two. Once this has happened Conservative Party Members (the ground troops) will be ask via a postal vote, to chose which of the two hopefuls will become their leader and da facto Prime Minister of the Country.

Seeing as the Party membership is heavily in favour of BREXIT, the MPs who oppose it, will have to engineer a way to stop a Brexiteer Candidate being one of the two names put before the party at large.

There are already moves afoot to secure this outcome by, for the first time in the history of Conservative leadership contests, insisting that the two final candidates must consist of one male and one female.

Once they introduce this stipulation, their next move will be to vote overwhelmingly for a male anti-Brexit candidate, thus nullifying all male Brexiteer Candidates who may have made second place, in favour of the female candidate with the most votes. Which is 99.99% likely to be the current Home Secretary - Teresa May. Who just happens to be a declared anti-Brexiteer.

The danger they will all be aware of, is that this is very likely to enrage the 17.2 million Brexit voters so much, that many of them will rally to the UKIP camp come the next General Election. Which under these circumstances, is likely to come sooner rather than later.

As it stands, the brave people who voted to take our Country back, are standing alone and surrounded by hostile forces. Hopefully we can hold the line but a President Trump can't come a moment too soon.

We've done our bit boys, now it's time for you to do yours. Vote Trump

Anonymous Clay June 26, 2016 11:21 AM  

89. ace June 26, 2016 2:33 AM
@74:

Funded! Honestly: kids who got fucked by their dads and kids who got abandoned by their dads... who turned out better?

Uh. My first cousin LuLu Belle? Hey, gimpy the pup was fine, after a few dog years.

Blogger philbert53rogers June 26, 2016 4:03 PM  

Clay wrote:philbert53roger

Just wondering.

Where'd you get that Philibert name?

My mother/grandmother was a Philibert.


Its a nickname I picked up its not actually my given name, thanks to all for the responses from everyone btw there are times when i despair for my generation and its good to be reminded that all generations have their challenges. Ours happen to just be different from those that came before.

Anonymous Erik July 06, 2016 8:45 AM  

Ignore me, testing comment in an old post since Preview function is borked.
I think you can strikethrough if you finagle it right. Reasonable prosecutor = one who want to keep h̶i̶s̶ ̶j̶o̶b̶ breathing.

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