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Friday, June 10, 2016

Something has to give

And somebody has to win. Fred Reed sees interracial war on the way amidst "the Shards of America":
If Latinos become another hostile racial group, Katie bar the door. We face as part of the larger conflict a tricorn race war of, now, low intensity. This makes no sense as most of all races just want to live in peace, but the civilized inevitably get sucked into hostility started by extremists. White nationalists are spoiling for a fight, as are Black Livists and an indeterminate number of Latino hot-heads.

Latinos are key in what is coming. There are at least 55 million in the US–I suspect the numbers are deliberately understated by the government–and most, being legal, are not going away.

Cracking down appears to be beyond the powers of governments whose politicians will temporize, back away, make polite noises, and hope it doesn’t blow on their watch. If we have Hillary, she will do nothing. It is not clear that Trump could change much, though he would try.

There is a large racial element in the social battleground no matter how much we pretend otherwise.

Race is only a part of the onrushing disaster. America is no longer a country, but a riot of hostile races, sexes, and political extremes, of self-serving politicians and extractive corporations of the extremely rich who have no attachment to the US. The mild competition between Republicans and Democrats of the Fifties has given way to hard Right and weird Left who bitterly hate each other. They are irreconcilable.

Somebody has to win.
If the internal stability of the USA depends upon the dedication of the Hispanic population to altruism, tranquility, and sweet reason, we can safely conclude that it is doomed. Those who value civilization and traditional America are going to have to come to terms with supporting the hard Right; better sooner than later. Remember: it takes two to tango, but it only takes one side to start a war.

With whom are you going to side when it comes? More importantly, with whom are you going to be permitted to side?

And on a not-necessarily-unrelated note, I should mention that Cuckservative is not only newly released in paperback, but is already #1 in Nationalism.


Review: This is a sledgehammer book -- rigorous empirical analysis, ruthless, relentless logic, historical depth, fearless, muscular rhetorical challenge -- better than anything else I have read in capturing the pathetic cultural surrender that has been underway now for the last fifty years in the USA. "Racism" in the US is now what "imperialism" and "capitalism" were in the decaying Soviet Union, empty incantations designed to confuse a demoralized people and distract them from the treachery and incompetence of their masters. This book puts Vox Day and John Red Eagle in the Alexander Solzhenitzyn's class of courageous writers documenting the dishonesty and cowardice of our entrenched and corrupted ruling class.

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162 Comments:

Blogger Ahazuerus June 10, 2016 4:59 AM  

"If the internal stability of the USA depends upon the dedication of the Hispanic population to altruism, tranquility, and sweet reason, we can safely conclude that it is doomed."

I've been assuming that everyone reading here regularly shares that conclusion to some degree or other.

The questions and differences are about the precise path that doom takes, but that's quite secondary to recognising the fact that doom is visibly on the horizon, and it ain't receding.

Blogger Phillip George June 10, 2016 5:03 AM  

There is something of a corollary in disease of the organic variety. So much equipment and resource in a hospital is merely about measuring and monitoring. From positron emission topography to contrast assisted nuclear magnetic imagery processes can be monitored with increasing accuracy - but what about the patient? The ability to diagnose and monitor has never been better, but, so little is known about how to reverse metabolic processes at the cellular level. We can know what it is, but not why its there or really what to do about it.

Offering euthanasia is no better than 16th Century central sub Saharan witch doctory when a disease is well advanced. So what has improved. Are graves any less permanent now than then? It's the ultimate statistic. Everyone born is expected to die.

In one of the upstairs bedrooms of Robet E Lees home in Arlington Cemetery there used to hang a hand embroidered picture framed tapestry of a country cottage scene type with flower and farm animals. The only words in it were, "Jesus died, Jesus is Risen". For two hundred years of advancement in technology/ nothing in that tapestry could be improved upon. So it could hang there for maybe a 100 plus years until a new curator thought it "inappropriate".

Do you get the parallel? What built America has to be hidden now.

Anonymous Icicle June 10, 2016 5:08 AM  

We win, they lose.

Anonymous Bobby Farr June 10, 2016 5:17 AM  

If the end result is that my grandkids' history course many years from now includes grainy photos of Romney, Jeb and Bill Kristol lynchings, this is going to be a golden era.

Anonymous Icicle June 10, 2016 5:19 AM  

Latinos are key in what is coming. There are at least 55 million in the US–I suspect the numbers are deliberately understated by the government–and most, being legal, are not going away.

Really Fred? Why do you assume that?

Anonymous Mathias June 10, 2016 5:33 AM  

@4 Grainy photo's? Why, when almost everyone has access to at least medium-def cameraphones? I would imagine that at least one person would think to bring the state-of-the-art recording equipment to capture the event. Why settle for grainy when we have recording tech that can capture all of the little emotions of the executed for posterity?

Anonymous Icicle June 10, 2016 5:34 AM  

https://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/voices/seven-easy-steps-ethnic
-cleansing-dominican-republic

Let me sum it up if tl;dr:

"But we are citizens!"
NOT ANYMORE!
*rips rug out from under*
YONK!

Blogger Lazarus June 10, 2016 5:40 AM  

Icicle wrote:Really Fred? Why do you assume that?


Because he can.

Anonymous SciVo June 10, 2016 5:41 AM  

After San Jose, I'm finally seeing more writers pointing out the anarcho-tyranny (if I'm using that term correctly) of the top and bottom united against the middle, the police and protesters united against the normies. This is not new, it is not a coincidence, and it will not stop.

He who pays the piper calls the tune, and that isn't you. In aggregate, sure, but not individually. Why do you think the establishmentarian "conservatives" are suddenly all twitterpated about the so-called "collectivism" of recognizing common interests and working together?

Hmm. Over here we have people advocating for healthy communities, and over there we have other people slandering them as if there's nothing between the Chamber of Commerce and the Communist Party (both anti-yeoman).

Gosh. I wonder what all that could mean.

Blogger Stilicho June 10, 2016 5:53 AM  

Legal? As William Munny might say, legal ain't got nuthin to do with it.

Anonymous Icicle June 10, 2016 5:56 AM  

Because he can.

I'm sure India and Pakistan thought the same way before the partitioning.

Blogger Stilicho June 10, 2016 5:59 AM  

A few months ago, Fred wrote with some puzzlement about his visit to the Mexican part of LA. He could not figure out why they were so much more slovenly and careless about their neighborhoods than they are in Mexico. The answer is simple: America is not their home and they know it. They treat America the way spring breakers treat a hotel room and for much the same reason: it's not their home and they will go home when the party's over, leaving their mess for others to clean up.

Anonymous Icicle June 10, 2016 6:08 AM  

America is not their home and they know it. They treat America the way spring breakers treat a hotel room and for much the same reason: it's not their home and they will go home when the party's over, leaving their mess for others to clean up.

Trump: Low energy there by our good friends from the south. In addition to the wall, we are adding a surcharge for the collateral damage caused by the mass migration.

It's gunna be yuuuuge!

Anonymous Philipp June 10, 2016 6:20 AM  

Most of you who read this blog are Americans or citizens of the United States (you see, I have learned that there is a difference between these two groups from reading this blog) and thus care naturally most what will happen in your part of the world. I am more interested what would happen in the rest of the world if/when there is a race and civil war in the U.S.

Imagine that the U.S. will suffer from a multi-sides race and civil war, just like Syria is now. The government would disappear or be just one player among many in the civil war. The armed forces of the U.S. would most likely fall apart, which each soldier, sailor and airman would have to decide which side to join. Similar to what happen in the former Yugoslavia. The carrier groups might still patrol the oceans but if they were still effective with their crews mistrusting or even fighting each other is debatable (to say the least).

If the U.S. could not intervene anymore, what would happen in the rest of the world? Would Malaysia or Indonesia annex the tiny kingdom of Brunei with its huge oil reserves? Would Iraq occupy Kuwait again? Would China start naval wars against Vietnam, the Philippines and Malaysia over its claims in the South China Sea? Would Russia invade the Baltic Republics? What would happen to the Pakistani and Egyptian armies if the multi-billion subsidies from the U.S. government would stop arriving? How would the Kurds and Syrian rebel groups react if no more money and weapon would be delivered by the U.S.? Would the Islamic State (or a similar group) conquer more territory in the Middle East?

Interesting questions.

Blogger Aeoli Pera June 10, 2016 6:22 AM  

Great review.

It is not clear that Trump could change much, though he would try.

^This.

More importantly, with whom are you going to be permitted to side?

I don't understand this question, or point, as the case may be.

Anonymous Icicle June 10, 2016 6:25 AM  

More importantly, with whom are you going to be permitted to side?

I don't understand this question, or point, as the case may be.


He means something like:
"Though I am X, internally I identify as Y."
"I am A, but I was raised by B."

Blogger Aeoli Pera June 10, 2016 6:29 AM  

Aeoli Pera wrote:
It is not clear that Trump could change much, though he would try.

^This.


Ja know, having reflected on this, I've flipped back to Trump. Maybe someone like me just plain should not be voting, clearly I don't understand it U___U. German and Irish, doncha know, like that psycho Molyneux chap (he means well, I think).

Blogger Aeoli Pera June 10, 2016 6:33 AM  

Icicle wrote:More importantly, with whom are you going to be permitted to side?

I don't understand this question, or point, as the case may be.


He means something like:

"Though I am X, internally I identify as Y."

"I am A, but I was raised by B."


Okay, I understand that to mean pragmatic action versus ideal intention; ends versus means.

Blogger Lobo Util June 10, 2016 6:35 AM  

I always tell my kids that the only way to destroy your enemies is to turn them into your friends.

You can hurt them or kill them but they come back with a knife, club, gun, siblings, parents, police, slander, a bunch of other thugs, or an ambush.

That said, I also told them, only fight in the school halls so teachers can break it up. If you are surrounded by a gang, first try to walk away through the gang wall. If that won't work, take someone else to the hospital with you. They'll respect you more either way.

Blogger Aeoli Pera June 10, 2016 6:40 AM  

Philipp wrote:The carrier groups might still patrol the oceans but if they were still effective with their crews mistrusting or even fighting each other is debatable (to say the least).

If the U.S. could not intervene anymore, what would happen in the rest of the world?


I think the carrier groups would merely risk becoming ineffective, each at random. The crews won't mutiny, but they will be processing existential crises of group disunity, comparable to an individual having an existential crisis, which will effectively paralyze them. The other questions are answered by implication. Hope that helps (and I hope it's correct!).

Blogger Joe A. June 10, 2016 6:41 AM  

Thank you very much for printing Cuckservative on paperback. I am ordering my copy after work.

Blogger JACIII June 10, 2016 6:45 AM  

Aeoli Pera wrote:Icicle wrote:More importantly, with whom are you going to be permitted to side?

I don't understand this question, or point, as the case may be.


He means something like:

"Though I am X, internally I identify as Y."

"I am A, but I was raised by B."


Okay, I understand that to mean pragmatic action versus ideal intention; ends versus means.


Nothing but the overt manifestation of your genes will matter. i.e. a white SJW with specialization in calling other white people racist will be the enemy of blacks. Because he is white.

Blogger Lobo Util June 10, 2016 6:56 AM  

I thought I should clarify instead of just leaving the parable.

------ @19 Lobo Util
I always tell my kids that the only way to destroy your enemies is to turn them into your friends.

You can hurt them or kill them but they come back with a knife, club, gun, siblings, parents, police, slander, a bunch of other thugs, or an ambush.

That said, I also told them, only fight in the school halls so teachers can break it up. If you are surrounded by a gang, first try to walk away through the gang wall. If that won't work, take someone else to the hospital with you. They'll respect you more either way.
----------
Trump is a master of all 3 methods. Let's look at the Hispanic situation.
1. He hugs them, hires them, promotes them, gets endorsed by them and turns them into friends.
2. When he is attacked he replies in public and makes sure the attacks are noted by the media (the teachers break up the fight)
3. When people gang up on him he sticks to his guns (walks through the gang wall) and also retaliates 10 to 1 on one poor gang member and takes that person to the hospital by his labeling and telling everyone that person's problems.

Trump is a master at dealing with his enemies. Romney, the Bushes, the Paul's, Cruz, Ryan. No other Republican has ever come anywhere near dealing as well with their enemies.

Blogger Atomic Agent 13 June 10, 2016 7:07 AM  

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Blogger Escoffier June 10, 2016 7:20 AM  


Phillip GeorgeJune 10, 2016 5:03 AM but, so little is known about how to reverse metabolic processes at the cellular level. We can know what it is, but not why its there or really what to do about it.


No part of this statement is true. You may want to read 'Good calories bad calories' by Gary Taubes.

Blogger Al From Bay Shore June 10, 2016 7:21 AM  

I'm holding a remote hope for a political fracturing along state lines rather than a societal fracturing along racial and ethnic lines. Independent and sovereign states form smaller and, ultimately, more accountable governments which allow for people to have a greater influence in the manner in which they are governed, and ambition men who are evil and dishonest have fewer places to hide. Madison had it right in #10 about the use of electoral participation to channel angst but he also had it wrong when arguing that such a thing could work on a large geographic region formed of geographically different regions.

BREXIT, as a means of escaping consolidated government, holds out some hope for the individual residents of the 50 states. Our national government, which was formed under the consolidating and, often, coercive powers of the Constitution is America's EU. I imagine hope in the form of a final amendment: "The Constitution of the United States of America his hereby dissolved and the States shall be sovereign."

Blogger FALPhil June 10, 2016 7:23 AM  

@22 JACIII
Nothing but the overt manifestation of your genes will matter. i.e. a white SJW with specialization in calling other white people racist will be the enemy of blacks. Because he is white.

As was said before on this blog, "Your skin is your uniform". It's really that simple. When war comes, people make decisions in an instant because survival depends on it. During internecine conflict, there are no "rules of engagement".

Blogger lubertdas June 10, 2016 7:31 AM  

We all need to do our part to fight against the coming anarchy:

Vote with your feet: I was born and raised in Chicago, Illinois. I live in a state that is broken beyond repair. Later this year, I will be moving to Wisconsin---not a paradise, but compared to Illinois, the people there are relatively sane.

Buy guns and ammo: Purchase good reliable firearms, and as much ammo as you can afford. There will be a time when the concept of the police being there to "serve and protect" will be revealed to be the ineffective farce it is. Be prepared for that day to defend yourself, your family, and your property. Remember, thugs will attempt to come and get your guns and ammo, so be prepared to defend it.

Do what you can to open the eyes of others: The vast majority of people out there are blind to the real situation. The media suppresses information regarding violent vibrants, so the average person has no idea. People outside of the bad neighborhoods of Chicago don't seem to give a fat rats ass that there are more murders in Chicago each year than there are in armed military conflicts.

Chicago's comeuppance will happen when the riots will come, and the vibrants learn to riot in rich neighborhoods and not in their own ghettos.

If this country survives in any way similar to what we've had in the past, it will end up looking like American society looked in Colonel Kratman's book Caliphate... and that's a best case scenario.

Blogger Cail Corishev June 10, 2016 7:35 AM  

If Latinos become another hostile racial group

"Become"?

Blogger Cail Corishev June 10, 2016 7:41 AM  

most, being legal, are not going away.

Really Fred? Why do you assume that?


Because it hasn't happened yet. It's hard for people to see how massive changes could happen -- until they happen, after which everyone can see how they were inevitable.

Blogger Atomic Agent 13 June 10, 2016 7:42 AM  

Shit, we are doomed.

Blogger FALPhil June 10, 2016 7:45 AM  

@28 lubertdas
We all need to do our part to fight against the coming anarchy:

You have time. The middle class still has too much to lose, and they are the only ones paying taxes. Therefore, they will be strung along with dribs and drabs of concessions for as long as possible. Or until some galvanizing event occurs. It is good to be prepared, though.

Blogger Nate June 10, 2016 7:53 AM  

You're only doomed if you wander through life day after day as if nothing is ever going to happen.

By now you should have plans A B C D and E. And should be well on your way to being able to execute all of them.

Anonymous Ha June 10, 2016 7:58 AM  

If the U.S. could not intervene anymore, what would happen in the rest of the world?

Who gives a shit? Jesus, most Americans don't give a shit what happens in the rest of the world now.

I am sure Fred thinks that when the balloon goes up in the USA and the browns, blacks, and whites are at each others throats here, a gringo in Mexico like him will be perfectly safe. At least until someone where he lives gets the word that the gringos in America killed their family, and decides on some local payback. Good times!

Blogger Gaiseric June 10, 2016 8:00 AM  

If Latinos become another hostile racial group? Fred's got a real blind spot towards them, doesn't he?

Blogger Atomic Agent 13 June 10, 2016 8:00 AM  

Should not have deleted that first post, Hispanics make up 17% of the U.S. population and what percentage of those who are radical and even want a suicidal war is unknown. The doom Vox speaks of may not even happen, if we manage to get a handle on immigration.

Blogger CarpeOro June 10, 2016 8:03 AM  

There appear to be a number of Ilk around Chicago. I'm living here because of work, wishing I could go home to Michigan. Maybe we should hold an Ilkmoot. Ties with like minded individuals in dangerous places like this (shootings up 50% over last year, though mainly on opposite side of Chicago from me on the North side) will have some value.

Blogger YIH June 10, 2016 8:06 AM  

I see Fred is still having trouble wrapping his brain around the real issue:
If Latinos become another hostile racial group,
There's ''if'' about it, by and large, they are a hostile racial group - as recent events in CA demonstrate. And with Trump the de facto GOP nominee I do expect things to escalate.
From the NYT:
SEPT. 3, 2007
MEXICO CITY, Sept. 2 — President Felipe Calderón harshly criticized the United States government on Sunday for the recent crackdown on illegal immigrants
{snip}
“I have said that Mexico does not stop at its border, that wherever there is a Mexican, there is Mexico,” [Calderón] said.
That's the issue I have with Fred, he lives in Mexico, from everything I've read, he likes it. More power to him.
The difference is, of course, he chooses to live in Mexico. If, as the former Prez of Mexico stated quite bluntly, Mexicans bring Mexico with them. I don't want to live in Mexico, but as more of them come, especially if they break the law to do so, and continue to break laws once here (such as something Trump hasn't mentioned, they're proclivity for driving drunk) I will be, in effect, living in Mexico.
As everyone knows, Vox lives in Italy, it works for him and his family, and that's wonderful. But I don't have to concern myself with large numbers of Italians coming to live here, nor do I have to put up with ''press 1 for English, press 2 for Italian'' when I pick up the phone.

Blogger Nate June 10, 2016 8:08 AM  

"Really Fred? Why do you assume that?"

Because he is an American and American's have great respect for systems and laws and "how things are done".

It is very difficult for americans... particularly americans that are Fred's age... to accept that all of that is just a big socially accepted myth. The Law is one of those things like the Constitution, that matters a whole lot. Right up until it doesn't.

When it all goes pop who is or is not in america legally isn't going to mean a damn thing at all.

Blogger Atomic Agent 13 June 10, 2016 8:09 AM  

Those who value civilization and traditional America are going to have to come to terms with supporting the hard Right

Well Jesus did say cast your nets out of the right side of the boat to catch the fish.

Anonymous Wanderer June 10, 2016 8:09 AM  

I think we have found the new rallying cry:

We are the megalomaniacal, misogynistic, racist, islamophobic, abelist, transphobic hellhounds!

Blogger Nate June 10, 2016 8:10 AM  

"The doom Vox speaks of may not even happen, if we manage to get a handle on immigration."

a war between 17% of the population and 13% of the population would be catastrophic.

Blogger James Dixon June 10, 2016 8:16 AM  

I haven't read the other comments yet, but Fred makes one basic mistake in his analysis. He says " They know there won’t be consequences because governments are afraid of them."

The government isn't afraid of them. The government supports them. The D faction supports them because they know they are reliable D voters. The R faction supports them because they push wages down and reduce labor costs. Neither cares about the costs to their supposed constituents.

Blogger Rusty Fife June 10, 2016 8:17 AM  

Atomic Agent 13 wrote:The doom Vox speaks of may not even happen, if we manage to get a handle on immigration.

The Laconians said "if".

Anonymous Quartermaster June 10, 2016 8:36 AM  

It's going to get dark, but Christ is coming.

The US is going to go away as a world player and influence. When that happens, things are going to go to hell in a hand basket. People don't understand just what we have done over the years. Yes, it's a pain to play world policeman, but Pax Americana produced the most prosperous period in world history since Rome.

While Pax Americana is already a dead letter, we still have managed to tamp things down, even if it's been somewhat incompetently. The death throes, however, are going to be quite unfun, and the extent of that is beyond our ability to wrap our heads around. All that can be done is what scripture advises - do all you can then stand and see the salvation of the Lord.

Blogger Gaiseric June 10, 2016 8:36 AM  

Nate wrote:"The doom Vox speaks of may not even happen, if we manage to get a handle on immigration."

a war between 17% of the population and 13% of the population would be catastrophic.

A war between 30% of the population, even if only uneasily allied with each other, and 63% of the population would be much worse.

Anonymous BGKB June 10, 2016 8:37 AM  

The question is are the actions of the cartels + mestizo gangs worth keeping the the 22 million+ "good" parasites on fraudulent welfare claims?

I've been assuming that everyone reading here regularly shares that conclusion to some degree or other

I have dated my fair share of Hispanics & am in favor of mass deportations. If mexico won't take their criminals back we can deliver them from a staggering height.

Grainy photo's? Welcome to the holograms of hung traitors museum, here we see Al Gore & the Wise Latrina.

I am more interested what would happen in the rest of the world if/when there is a race and civil war in the U.S.

US aid stops 3rd world starves, disease increases. Put a couple of nitro packed 5 gallon buckets of rice and beans into your pantry just in case.

more slovenly and careless about their neighborhoods than they are in Mexico

I have only been to the border areas of Mexico but I have not seen these magic clean mestizo land he speaks of. Every place filled with Mexicans has as Steve Sailor coined "latino littering".

“I have said that Mexico does not stop at its border, that wherever there is a Mexican, there is Mexico,” [Calderón]

All this time I thought he was apologizing for everywhere Mexicans go looking so bad.

Not OT: 9th circuit cocksuckers say whitey can't have guns not even former special forces soldiers while leftists import moslems in around him. https://www.yahoo.com/news/court-no-carry-concealed-weapons-public-175139817.html

Blogger JaimeInTexas June 10, 2016 8:42 AM  

Calderon may say nut it does not make it so. These uSA, on the other hand does act as if "where a.uSA citizen is, there is uSA." Especially in tacation, drugs. It gets worse when there is no uSA citizen at all - bombs, telling govs what to do, etc

Not a defense of Calderon but pointing out own politicians' same arrogance.

Blogger Jordan179 June 10, 2016 8:44 AM  

If you give the government the power to "deport" American-born persons of Latino descent (to where? In many cases not all their origin would be Latino or from one particular Latin American country) then you give it the power to "deport" you and me. Unless we're American Indians, in which case you give it the power to put us on reservations. Yes, this includes the WASPiest WASPs you can find -- they can go back to England.

Note that I did not say that the government would deport all persons matching any particular ethnic description. It would deport the ones it wanted to. And that might not be the ones you wanted it to deport.

Blogger YIH June 10, 2016 8:45 AM  

Nate wrote:"Really Fred? Why do you assume that?"

Because he is an American and American's have great respect for systems and laws and "how things are done".

It is very difficult for americans... particularly americans that are Fred's age... to accept that all of that is just a big socially accepted myth. The Law is one of those things like the Constitution, that matters a whole lot. Right up until it doesn't.

When it all goes pop who is or is not in america legally isn't going to mean a damn thing at all.


Or for that matter, who is and isn't Mexican. As in, ''But I'm Puerto Rican!'' ''Close enough''. In spite of the fact Mexicans generally hate Puerto Ricans - and vice-versa.

Blogger Alexander June 10, 2016 8:48 AM  

More importantly, with whom are you going to be permitted to side?

In other words, you might think it's a great idea to be a 'white ally' and turn on your own people in favor of the barbarians, but there's every chance they'll just rape you and shoot you when you try.

Blogger VD June 10, 2016 8:54 AM  

If you give the government the power to "deport" American-born persons of Latino descent (to where? In many cases not all their origin would be Latino or from one particular Latin American country) then you give it the power to "deport" you and me. Unless we're American Indians, in which case you give it the power to put us on reservations.

They clearly already have that power. They've been deporting people and putting my people on reservations for centuries. Your point is irrelevant.

Blogger YIH June 10, 2016 8:56 AM  

BGKB:
I have only been to the border areas of Mexico but I have not seen these magic clean mestizo land he speaks of. Every place filled with Mexicans has as Steve Sailor coined "latino littering".
Fred's aware of it... Or at least has become aware of it:
I had been lectured by various nativist websites that Latinos throw trash everywhere, which they do not in Mexico, so I was interested to see whether they did in LA as claimed. Yes, they do. Both Eastlos and Van Nuys are liberally strewn. Why in LA and not in Guadalajara, I don’t know.
I can't speak for his experience in Mexico, but the litter problem is well-known in the US.

Blogger Matthew June 10, 2016 8:56 AM  

Nate wrote:It is very difficult for americans... particularly americans that are Fred's age... to accept that all of that is just a big socially accepted myth. The Law is one of those things like the Constitution, that matters a whole lot. Right up until it doesn't.



A Weekend at the Constitution's

Anonymous BGKB June 10, 2016 8:57 AM  

'white ally' and turn on your own people in favor of the barbarians, but there's every chance they'll just rape you and shoot you

Even I was surprised at the lack of black literacy when I wore my "White Privilege is evolution that's why Asians have it also" shirt. While liberals be like "why he raping me, doesn't he see my shirt says blackliesmatter?"

Anonymous Ad Victoriam June 10, 2016 8:59 AM  

@14 The two most important questions are who will control food production (that part which is possible to be sustained during conflict) and who controls the nuclear weapons. There are a lot of 3rd-world nations dependent upon exports of food from the US, Canada, and Australia. I've read that when Ukraine gave up the nuclear weapons it inherited from the Soviet Union, it did so not because it was trying to be 'responsible and peaceful' but because it couldn't break the control encryption. I hope the architects of our own nuclear systems have been similarly careful because I have no confidence that a dissolution of our now multi-cult military will not see some nw fall into the hands of anti-American hostiles. I also worry whether multi-cult has infected the nuclear forces of France and Britain and whether we have plans to extract those weapons when their former nations fall into the ummah.

Blogger Alexander June 10, 2016 9:01 AM  

If you give the government the power to "deport" American-born persons of Latino descent (to where? In many cases not all their origin would be Latino or from one particular Latin American country

Who cares? Send in the US army to create a corridor, and dump everyone 50 miles south of the Rio Grande. Mexico filtered them up from their home country; Mexico can go and filter them right back down again.

Or we could just turn Puerto Rico into the world's most horrific penal colony. We could probably even make a pretty good crack in the debt by charging to watch the live stream.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan June 10, 2016 9:16 AM  

I disagree with Fred it is when Whites take to identity politics is when this becomes hot. As of now the Cucks act as auctioneers, selling off the wealth of Whites in a painless easy process, Whites object, call them "racist" hint that they will lose what they have left and voila easy peasy money.

This becomes YugoAmerica once we have our Field of Blackbirds speech.

Blogger James Dixon June 10, 2016 9:21 AM  

> If you give the government the power to "deport" American-born persons of Latino descent (to where? In many cases not all their origin would be Latino or from one particular Latin American country) then you give it the power to "deport" you and me.

What is this "give" of which you speak? If you have learned nothing else from the Clinton, Bush, and Obama administrations it should be that the US government is no longer constrained by any authority. It will do whatever it damn well pleases.

> We could probably even make a pretty good crack in the debt by charging to watch the live stream.

A national lottery with the winnings being free from federal income tax would probably wipe out the debt in 5 years or less. 10% overheard, 45% winning, and 45% to pay off the debt. We've already had several $300 million plus megamillion and powerball jackpots, so we know it's feasible.

Blogger YIH June 10, 2016 9:22 AM  

Another thing Mexicans have a bad habit of; not having car insurance. So when their (often) old, beat up car crashes into you (especially if they're drunk) guess who gets screwed? It why lots of folks buy ''un/under-insured motorist'' coverage - to fix you and your car when they do it.
Plus the double standard; drive without insurance in the US, life will quickly become unhappy for you - in many states, it's treated as driving w/o a license/registration.
Illegals, OTOH, often get a pass on that - as in usually not arrested (if sober), and if fined, typically shine that one. It's why there have been proposals to seize the vehicle of those who are driving drunk or no license/reg./ins. - to effect some punishment on them.

Blogger James Dixon June 10, 2016 9:23 AM  

> I also worry whether multi-cult has infected the nuclear forces of France and Britain and whether we have plans to extract those weapons when their former nations fall into the ummah.

It would be simpler and more effective to have remote denotation codes.

Blogger August June 10, 2016 9:36 AM  

I have not seen this much where I live, and I should if folks were getting particularly warlike, because there's a whole lot of diversity. Sure, every once in a while I'll hear gunshots, but that's usually depressingly stupid crap- not racially motivated, but just dumb. Here in the South, we've been forced to be integrated longer, so arguably we do it better. The Latinos are the newest group, but these aren't the tatted up gangsters. These are construction workers. They drink beer, have babies, rehab old houses to live in.

So far, you can track back the violence to Soros funded protesters, and the potential for a race war is hyped up on the news. I suspect there are more racial problems where those yankee TRS guys live, and then the Mexican drug cartels seem to be screwing up the Southwest.

I once noticed an attitude in this white elite teacher type- you know, the sort who refuses to believe IQ means anything- and I think I see the same attitude with Hilary Clinton, Elizabeth Warren, and all those middle aged women that run Europe: they simply can't look at their record and admit they've failed miserably. It must be racism, and naturally, anyone who might be able to provide good governance must be a racist.


Anonymous Athor Pel June 10, 2016 9:51 AM  

The wicked work to bring chaos so as to play the hero once they stop abetting the chaos but actually do the work of the Lord's wrath.

Anonymous ZhukovG June 10, 2016 9:58 AM  

The Latins are already belligerent. It is when the Europeans become belligerent that things get interesting.

The Latins and Africans hate each other. But peace was maintained by directing their hate against a common enemy, the European. Now the European begins to object, for now just politically, to this arrangement. But if it becomes apparent that the political solution is, for whatever reason, ineffective; then I’m afraid the Latins and Africans, along with their handlers, will find out just how savage Europeans can be.


Blogger Tom June 10, 2016 10:11 AM  

There's a NATIONALISM tag on Amazon? You sure that category isn't called "One Step From Being Banned"?

Anonymous kfg June 10, 2016 10:13 AM  

@18. Aeoli Pera: "Okay, I understand that to mean pragmatic action versus ideal intention; ends versus means."

It means that if you are not Han, "identifying" with Han will not make you Han as far as the Han are concerned."

And if you are part Han, part Yamato and part German, you do not get to decide which group, if any, will accept you as one of their own - they do.

The question of nationality belongs to the nation, not the individual.

25. Escoffier: "No part of this statement is true. You may want to read 'Good calories bad calories' by Gary Taubes."

You need to add 'Body by Science' by Doug McGuff. So should Taubes. It really is diet and exercise.

Blogger Rusty Shackleford June 10, 2016 10:16 AM  

"Somebody has to win."

It will be bloody but I know who my money is on. When push comes to shove, the whites have the guns and the gumption. Will a Saul Alinsky book stop a 5.56 62gr FMJ? Methinks not....

Blogger James Dixon June 10, 2016 10:28 AM  

> It will be bloody but I know who my money is on.

As I've noted to people before, when it comes to killing, we're the best there's ever been.

Blogger Tom June 10, 2016 10:37 AM  

Some of the most interesting folks I know are mutts like Vox (and me for that matter though I'm not that interesting).

This Shirts and Skins game is going to suck. Can't we start enclaves of like minded individuals and use uniforms or something instead of just skin color?

No, I guess the whole point is that attempting to do that has already failed and that's why we've gotten this situation we're in now.

Dadgumit.

Blogger W.LindsayWheeler June 10, 2016 10:44 AM  

The "Mexicans", people should now---are NOT European Spaniards---but the progeny of Aztecs and Mayan Indians. They are NOT Europeans. They have some mixture but they are more akin to Vox's Tribal identity like the Comanche.

These people's ancestors are the ones that tore the hearts out of thousands of captives to keep the sun in the sky! Look at the Drug Cartels and their brutality---that is coming here.

Another thing European weenies forget, Europeans with their intelligence think that they can escape blood and kinship ties--they are above that. Not with the Mexicans---Blood is thicker than water. They are very much a tribal people.

Dangerous times ahead. The Natural Law---Blood is thicker than water. In a time of war---it is blood relations that people turn for security in a fight.

Anonymous kfg June 10, 2016 10:50 AM  

"---but the progeny of Aztecs and Mayan Indians."

The Aztec and Mayan empires fell because there were a lot more nations in Mexico than Aztecs and Mayans. And they don't like each other a whole lot.

Same as it ever was.

History may not repeat, but it sure as hell does look like it rhymes.

Anonymous andon June 10, 2016 10:50 AM  

If Latinos become another hostile racial group...

lol, IF?

Anonymous andon June 10, 2016 10:54 AM  

America is no longer a country, but a riot of hostile races, sexes, and political extremes, of self-serving politicians and extractive corporations of the extremely rich who have no attachment to the US.

he has that right

OpenID peppermintfrosted June 10, 2016 11:02 AM  

This makes no sense as most of all races just want to live in peace

This is elitist nonsense. The average man, of any race, is the children of his ancestors, with the instincts and emotions that have proven adaptive in their environment. The average man may not pick up a weapon, but certainly participates in his nation's conflicts.

The Whites are second-class citizens in our own country, since the other races are able to talk and act collectively, but we are required by law to be individualist. This cuckoldry must not stand, and it is not yet seen by all Whites, who have mostly been gaslighted with bizarre incompatible and inconsistent worldviews and narratives to avoid the central fact that Whites are being cucked, but when enough of us become aware, none of us will be left behind, because every White who sees tells his family.

It is time for glib talk of individuals, elites, and social classes to cease, and people to become aware of the natural law that nature abhors a cuckold.

Blogger flyingtiger June 10, 2016 11:08 AM  

In the 60s both Charlie Manson and Bill (Boom Boom) Ayers that there would be a race war. After the blacks defeat the weak middle class white, they would Charlie or Bill to lead them. I do not know who started this nonsense.
In my old age, I say bring it on. But I want an all out war, just shoot it out. After a few volleys, the few that are left, will learn that white guys with thick glasses are better marksmen then they are.

Anonymous Frank Brady June 10, 2016 11:10 AM  

Just a few of observations:

1. According to a FOX News poll released earlier in the week, 37% of "Hispanics" now support Donald Trump.
2. It is not necessary to spend a lot of money deporting illegals. Most would leave if the stupid Americans would stop subsidizing their stay here. Don't hire them. Punish people who do hire them. Criminalize "sanctuary cities" and jail the politicians who create them. Don't give illegals access to any tax supported programs or documents (Medicaid, any form of tax supported health care, pubic education, unemployment, disability payments, driver's licenses, etc.). Make it a felony to possess and use forged documents such as social security cards.
3. My grandpa taught me years ago that in a fight, he who throws the first punch usually wins. That' the first PUNCH. Not the first "objection". I'm thinking we're a bit late on this one.

Blogger Alexander June 10, 2016 11:14 AM  

The nice thing about a race war is that simply by shutting off the gas and the water, our opponents will spend the first vital weeks of the war killing one another; first over a pair of fancy sneakers, then over the last can of baked beans.

Parts of middle Georgia may only discover a race war happened by the sudden lack of bullshit coming out of Atlanta.

Anonymous Baseball Savant June 10, 2016 11:19 AM  

"They clearly already have that power. They've been deporting people and putting my people on reservations for centuries. Your point is irrelevant."

Your people? Come on dude. The indian stuff is ridiculous. you are fucking whiter than Casper the friendly ghost. i understand your appeal to genetics and the whole "genetics is a bitch" mentality, but if the race war is as you say and your skin color is your uniform, nobody is going to give a tinker's damn about your genetic test. some wetback is going to come at you with a machete and you are going to pull out a piece of paper showing genetic identity? yeah that will go over well.

Anonymous John Steed June 10, 2016 11:22 AM  

@50. ``Mexicans generally hate Puerto Ricans -and vice-versa`` Oh is that ever true as I have witnessed when a Mexican catcalled a PR woman. Talk about blood flowing in the street. @47. re your not OT item. The ruling only really applies to states that don`t have a `Shall issue` law like CA. Mine does plus we now have limited permitless CC to boot.

Blogger Gaiseric June 10, 2016 11:24 AM  

Baseball Savant wrote:"They clearly already have that power. They've been deporting people and putting my people on reservations for centuries. Your point is irrelevant."

Your people? Come on dude. The indian stuff is ridiculous. you are fucking whiter than Casper the friendly ghost. i understand your appeal to genetics and the whole "genetics is a bitch" mentality, but if the race war is as you say and your skin color is your uniform, nobody is going to give a tinker's damn about your genetic test. some wetback is going to come at you with a machete and you are going to pull out a piece of paper showing genetic identity? yeah that will go over well.

Not a lot of wetbacks in Italy.

Blogger Dexter June 10, 2016 11:25 AM  

Parts of middle Georgia may only discover a race war happened by the sudden lack of bullshit coming out of Atlanta.

They'll discover it by the horde of millions of human locusts that emerges in search of food when they have stripped Atlanta to the bone.

Middle Georgia will run out of bullets before Atlanta runs out of zombies.

Blogger dc.sunsets June 10, 2016 11:27 AM  

See the face of Gen X entitlement blended with illegal immigrant entitlement.
http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2016/06/09/illegal-alien-high-school-valedictorian-texas-blames-u-s-takes-swipe-trump/

"I'm smart. I'm entitled to live in the USA. I'm entitled to a full ride to Yale. My daddy was abusive. Worship my superior beauty, my superior intelligence, and for above all, my superior courage to tell you to your face that I'm entitled to displace YOUR children in the land your parents built."

Let the dam break.

Let us elect Trump, let him follow through on his campaign promises and LET the INVADERS RIOT. Let them take off their pretty little masks and let us SEE the invading criminals for what they are.

Blogger Dexter June 10, 2016 11:28 AM  

It will be bloody but I know who my money is on. When push comes to shove, the whites have the guns and the gumption.

We're in this shitty situation in the first place due to a lack of white gumption.

Blogger dc.sunsets June 10, 2016 11:29 AM  

@81 An anti-gun blue state like Illinois won't run out of bullets, so I imagine GA is well-stocked.

Where do you think all those (literally) billions of rounds of ammo manufactured during the "shortage" were going? Quantico for FBI training?

Blogger dc.sunsets June 10, 2016 11:33 AM  

"Hispanic" support for Trump makes sense. Legal immigrants from Mexico et.al. appear to (in my personal dialogues) prefer the USA to their ancestral lands and have ZERO desire to see the conditions they escaped simply imported on the backs of invading locusts.

Borders. Borders. Borders.

Borders are what make places different. This is why I find those who oppose borders to be among the dumbest animals on the planet.

Blogger JaimeInTexas June 10, 2016 11:34 AM  

Let first close our [southern] border and expel the illegals. Provide incentives early self deportation. After, we can look at which legal immigrants to not allow residence. Then, we might look at which naturalized immigrant citizens can legally be charged with violation of their naturalization oath and their citizenship revoked and their body expelled to country of origin.

FWIW, the Monster Vote
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/06/09/oh-my-new-york-times-quietly-discusses-data-evidence-of-the-monster-vote/
(snip)
What the New York Times is statistically beginning to quantify is the existence of The Monster Vote. If you look closely at the data behind their newly discovered 10 million potential/predictable voters, you’ll notice the additional votes carry to exactly what we predicted in February.

Even if Republican projection turnout was off by 5 million votes, Trump still wins in a landslide. Heck, even if the projection turnout was off by a staggering 10 million votes, the republican nominee (Trump) would still gets more votes than President Obama did in 2012 and it is highly doubtful Hillary could turn out that level of support.
(snip)

Blogger Escoffier June 10, 2016 11:38 AM  


You need to add 'Body by Science' by Doug McGuff. So should Taubes. It really is diet and exercise.


I don't dispute that but he was talking specifically about the metabolic processes. Just google diseases of civilization if you want a primer.

Anonymous Gen. Kong June 10, 2016 11:39 AM  

Mathias:
@4 Grainy photo's? Why, when almost everyone has access to at least medium-def cameraphones? I would imagine that at least one person would think to bring the state-of-the-art recording equipment to capture the event. Why settle for grainy when we have recording tech that can capture all of the little emotions of the executed for posterity?

Actually, with the plasticization of corpses advanced as it is, there's no reason the noggins of all three - alongside those of a permanently snarling Incitatus Juan 'Batshit' McAmnesty, the simpering Miss Lindsay Graham in full Southern Belle drag, and the head of Weepin' Johnny that pumps out water whenever someone walks past - could not be plasticized, appropriately staked and wall-mounted in a refurbished Holocaustianity museum dedicated to the presently unmentioned white victims of the dirty genocidal war promoted by these and their SJW/Cuck friends. We could even call the place the National Unamusement Park.

Anonymous kfg June 10, 2016 11:40 AM  

"Middle Georgia will run out of bullets before Atlanta runs out of zombies."

The cities will need to be besieged for a time. If that is done properly most of the besiegers will be able to shoot one magazine and go home.

And there are always bayonets.

Blogger VD June 10, 2016 11:42 AM  

Your people? Come on dude. The indian stuff is ridiculous. you are fucking whiter than Casper the friendly ghost. i understand your appeal to genetics and the whole "genetics is a bitch" mentality, but if the race war is as you say and your skin color is your uniform, nobody is going to give a tinker's damn about your genetic test.

If you had ever seen my mother or my brothers, you would understand how blitheringly stupid you sound here. I deal in facts. I am an American Indian. There is no way around that.

Now, race war and skin uniforms are a separate matter. As it happens, I am multilingual and I can readily pass for anything from English to Mexican.

Anonymous ThirdMonkey June 10, 2016 11:44 AM  

The one I fear for the most is my brother-in-law. Hard worker, good husband, good father, strong Christian, but he "wears" the uniform of a Mexican. He grew up in the hood of Mercedes, TX, and after a youth filled with crime, booze, and drugs, was found by Jesus. He headed north, taking a job in the Oklahoma panhandle, and never looked back. He has totally rejected his Mexican culture, but he's still Mexican, and he knows he can't completely get away from it. His daughters look nothing like his wife or us, and it takes a concerted effort for us to look past the differences. He's on our side. He jokes that, "I'm so white, I'm Mennonite (which he is). Pass the streudel." Even though it is his first language, he refuses to speak Spanish to the wetbacks that he works with, and catches hell from them. My parents are looking to sell their place and move somewhere between my family and his. He told them straight up to find a small community that has high employment, lots of churches, and is 95% white. He has had no problem integrating into American culture because he intentionally moved to a place where he had no choice. This is how it's supposed to work: immigrate, assimilate. But because there are too many, it's not immigration, it's invasion. But he wears the uniform of the invasion. I just ask that when this thing goes hot, that the Ilk remember one of the rules of firearm safety: know your target.

Blogger Rusty Shackleford June 10, 2016 11:47 AM  

@83 This is true. However push hasn't quite come to shove yet.
When that happens the whites, those with the guns at least, will show plenty of gumption.

Anonymous kfg June 10, 2016 11:53 AM  

"I just ask that when this thing goes hot, that the Ilk remember one of the rules of firearm safety: know your target."

The ilk may remember, not a lot of others will. That is what Vox has been warning against for the last decade or so.

There were Jews who were so thoroughly assimilated as Germans that they fought for the Third Reich, while their families were already in the camps, and before they were sent to join them.

It's going to be damned messy and that's just the way it is. Prepare yourself as best you can.

Blogger Aeoli Pera June 10, 2016 12:00 PM  

kfg wrote:@18. Aeoli Pera: "Okay, I understand that to mean pragmatic action versus ideal intention; ends versus means."

It means that if you are not Han, "identifying" with Han will not make you Han as far as the Han are concerned."

And if you are part Han, part Yamato and part German, you do not get to decide which group, if any, will accept you as one of their own - they do.

The question of nationality belongs to the nation, not the individual.


Thanks, I get it now. More to the point, if you're Fred Reed's kids you won't be able to identify as white, and possibly not as Mexican either.

Blogger Feather Blade June 10, 2016 12:22 PM  

@76 Make it a felony to possess and use forged documents such as social security cards.

So long as that felony conviction results in instant deportation and a permanent record that says the felon can be shot on sight if he's found within US borders again.

Blogger Dexter June 10, 2016 12:30 PM  

An anti-gun blue state like Illinois won't run out of bullets, so I imagine GA is well-stocked.

Where do you think all those (literally) billions of rounds of ammo manufactured during the "shortage" were going? Quantico for FBI training?


They're not in Cletus's basement.

The rest of IL is just as screwed as Georgia when the zombie hordes stagger out of Chicago.

Anonymous andon June 10, 2016 12:35 PM  

79. Anonymous John Steed June 10, 2016 11:22 AM
@50. ``Mexicans generally hate Puerto Ricans -and vice-versa`` Oh is that ever true as I have witnessed when a Mexican catcalled a PR woman. Talk about blood flowing in the street.


Caribs, and Central and South Americans - they ALL hate the mejicano because they know what he does their relatives who pass thru mejico to get to the durty raciss U.S.

Blogger bob k. mando June 10, 2016 12:38 PM  

12. Stilicho June 10, 2016 5:59 AM
He could not figure out why they were so much more slovenly and careless about their neighborhoods than they are in Mexico. The answer is simple: America is not their home and they know it.



no, the answer is simple: Donald Trump is right. Mexico is NOT sending us their best and brightest, they are sending us their retards and rapists.

think about it, are you going to get a Mexican nuclear physicist jumping the border so he can ... pick cabbage and citrus in near slave labor conditions? i don't fucking well think so.


16. Icicle June 10, 2016 6:25 AM
"Though I am X, internally I identify as Y."
"I am A, but I was raised by B."



hey, you were born with two nuts and a weiner? no problem, you get right on in to the little girl's room and pull your knickers down.



19. Lobo Util June 10, 2016 6:35 AM
You can hurt them or kill them but they come back


if they 'come back' when you kill them ... you're doing something wrong.



94. Aeoli Pera June 10, 2016 12:00 PM
if you're Fred Reed's kids you won't be able to identify as white, and possibly not as Mexican either.



eh?

so far as i know, Fred has no Messican chilrun. HIS kids are all by his ex-wife and are 100% white American.

the 'daughter' he has in Mexico is Violeta's from a previous relationship.



35. Gaiseric June 10, 2016 8:00 AM
Fred's got a real blind spot towards them, doesn't he?



has had as long as i've been here.

also has a yuge blind spot about the responsibility of the Boomers in helping to create this mess.



42. Nate June 10, 2016 8:10 AM
a war between 17% of the population and 13% of the population would be catastrophic.


and yet, oddly beneficial to the ~65% majority.

Blogger Chris Mallory June 10, 2016 12:38 PM  

@81
Are you talking about Atlanta Metro or just the city proper?

The city proper only has 300,000 blacks in it, give or take.
Now, if you are talking about the statistical Metro Atlanta, that drives the number up to 1.8 million blacks.
How many of those do you think will survive the food riots? How many do you think will survive TNB once every thing breaks down? How many do you think will survive the dysentery and cholera once whitey isn't there to make sure they aren't crapping in their water supply?
How many will survive the march to "whiter pastures" in the Georgia sun with humidity hitting 90%?

I am not too worried about running out of ammo.

Blogger John S June 10, 2016 12:39 PM  

t would be simpler and more effective to have remote denotation codes.

Sampson Option, Goy Edition.

Blogger Cail Corishev June 10, 2016 12:45 PM  

The rest of IL is just as screwed as Georgia when the zombie hordes stagger out of Chicago.

Zombies only work together and stagger the same direction in the movies.

Imagine you're a zombie living in Chicago. One day your EBT card doesn't work. That happens sometimes -- lousy government can't do anything right -- so you grumble and go home. A few days later, you're out of food, but your card still doesn't work, so you drive around trying it in a few different neighborhoods. Still no luck, so you spend your gas money on food. A few days later, you go to try your card again, but the store is boarded up. You hear there was a small riot and people started hauling off the food. You want to go check out some more distant stores, maybe even head out to the suburbs or further, but you're low on both cash and gas now. You start thinking about robbing someone or stealing a car with a full gas tank.

By the way, you've almost never been out of the city, and when you were you never left the interstate, so your conception of what's between the cities is as accurate as medieval maps that show sea monsters beyond known territory.

What are the odds that you will make it out of the city to present a target to anyone? Some will, and their numbers will still be significant, but an awful lot will take care of themselves in any "zombie apocalypse" scenario.

Blogger VFM #7634 June 10, 2016 12:45 PM  

Where do you think all those (literally) billions of rounds of ammo manufactured during the "shortage" were going? Quantico for FBI training?

Yeah, I wonder where all that ammo of Fedgov's will end up. I suspect they'll flat-out give a bunch of it to the Diversity, although the white side(s) might be able to loot some.

Nothing but the overt manifestation of your genes will matter. i.e. a white SJW with specialization in calling other white people racist will be the enemy of blacks. Because he is white.

@22 JACIII
Those white SJWs who aren't working directly for Fedgov will get killed and eaten by all sides. The whites hate them, the Diversity despises them. The only people who will have any use for them whatsoever are the globalists.

Anonymous andon June 10, 2016 12:46 PM  

53. Blogger YIH June 10, 2016 8:56 AM
BGKB:
I have only been to the border areas of Mexico but I have not seen these magic clean mestizo land he speaks of. Every place filled with Mexicans has as Steve Sailor coined "latino littering".
Fred's aware of it... Or at least has become aware of it:
I had been lectured by various nativist websites that Latinos throw trash everywhere, which they do not in Mexico, so I was interested to see whether they did in LA as claimed. Yes, they do. Both Eastlos and Van Nuys are liberally strewn. Why in LA and not in Guadalajara, I don’t know.
I can't speak for his experience in Mexico, but the litter problem is well-known in the US.


if you see crap-filled diapers on the side of the road, those are gifts from your friendly migrants.

Anonymous andon June 10, 2016 12:52 PM  

35. Blogger Gaiseric June 10, 2016 8:00 AM
If Latinos become another hostile racial group? Fred's got a real blind spot towards them, doesn't he?


that's why I don't put much stock in what he has to say.

Blogger Chris Mallory June 10, 2016 12:55 PM  

@101
Another thing to remember, a large number of city residents don't have access to vehicles. Part of the problem during Katrina was that the vibrants didn't have any way to evacuate, even if they had wanted to.

Blogger Teri June 10, 2016 1:00 PM  

I was going through some old bookmarks yesterday and I have been sharing this one. It's how Eisenhower dealt with illegal immigration:

http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0706/p09s01-coop.html

Anonymous Takin' a Look June 10, 2016 1:01 PM  

@ bob k. mando

"no, the answer is simple: Donald Trump is right. Mexico is NOT sending us their best and brightest, they are sending us their retards and rapists.

think about it, are you going to get a Mexican nuclear physicist jumping the border so he can ... pick cabbage and citrus in near slave labor conditions? i don't fucking well think so."

+1 dingdingding, winner,winner,chicken dinner!

Let's get this in everyone's head....

WE.ARE.MEXICO'S.WELFARE.SYSTEM!!! WE.ARE.THEIR.LIBERIA!!!

Without us, the areas of Mexico outside of Cartel Control would all still be total shitholes instead of modernizing. WhyTF do y'all think Mexico's elites such as Vincente Fox and Calderon were cussing on live tv, pale as ghosts, sweating bullets and REAL fear in their eyes?!?

If we repatriate some 60 million mexicans, the vast majority will be the lazy, stupid, criminal underclass that ALL working to middle to upper class mexicans were so frigging happy to see leave. They all were expecting it to be PERMANENT.

Anonymous FP June 10, 2016 1:16 PM  

"Why in LA and not in Guadalajara, I don’t know."

Fred knows but doesn't want to say it. Culture. Euro ancestral influence etc.. He acts as if Guadalajara, Puerto Vallarta, Monterrey are the same as the northern states or the southern states like Chiapas, Yucatan and Oaxaca.

@49

"If you give the government the power to "deport" American-born persons of Latino descent (to where? In many cases not all their origin would be Latino or from one particular Latin American country) then you give it the power to "deport" you and me."

This would be the government that has the power to tax former Americans for 10 years after they renounce citizenship?

Would this be like the government of Oregon, namely one bureaucrat fining a Christian bakery $135k for not baking a wedding cake for two dykes? The same Oregon government that wanted to send a 4 year old American citizen to his Mexican paternal grandma to live after his American mother and Mexican father were deemed unworthy meth addicts? In squalor that they would never allow in Oregon? After the boy had been adopted by Oregonians into an intact family? Would this be the same Oregon government that took a 10 year old Canadian boy into custody for over a year because his American step dad let him ride a bike without a helmet? Well, also because the Canadian mother had a license in Canada to sell/grow some pot?

But you're worried they would deport just anyone Latino or otherwise if actually forced to uphold the law.

Blogger tweell June 10, 2016 1:28 PM  

Blacks and Mexicans hate whitey, but they hate each other more. When blacks and Mexicans fight, the Mexicans usually win - they are better at teamwork and picking their battles. The Mexicans are also better workers. My bet is that our US elites are letting them in so that the Mexicans can deal with the blacks. This will get messy.

Blogger Rusty Fife June 10, 2016 1:54 PM  

tweell wrote:My bet is that our US elites are letting them in so that the Mexicans can deal with the blacks. This will get messy.

I think it is Sailor that says that they are more compliant/trainable house servants. With the added bonus of not having to deal with all the EEOC and tax rules for you maid/gardener.

Those 4-5IQ points sure make a difference.

I know an employment law attorney who refuses to take black clients because they think every case is a lottery winner and won't settle for rational amounts.

Anonymous Baseball Savant June 10, 2016 1:58 PM  

"If you had ever seen my mother or my brothers, you would understand how blitheringly stupid you sound here. I deal in facts. I am an American Indian. There is no way around that.

Now, race war and skin uniforms are a separate matter. As it happens, I am multilingual and I can readily pass for anything from English to Mexican."

Maybe you tan well?

Anonymous andon June 10, 2016 2:08 PM  

109. Blogger tweell June 10, 2016 1:28 PM

My bet is that our US elites are letting them in so that the Mexicans can deal with the blacks.


lol, yeah because the "elites" are looking out for you and not flying in more blacks by the planeload

Anonymous andon June 10, 2016 2:13 PM  

106. Blogger Teri June 10, 2016 1:00 PM
I was going through some old bookmarks yesterday and I have been sharing this one. It's how Eisenhower dealt with illegal immigration:

http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0706/p09s01-coop.html


I'd love to see Trump call it "Operation Wetback II - The Sequel"
the MSM would go crazy

Blogger Tom Kratman June 10, 2016 2:30 PM  

"and that's a best case scenario."

It may well be. Sad, is it not?

Blogger Dexter June 10, 2016 2:36 PM  

@99, @101,

If SHTF it won't just be the blacks walking out of the cities, but also city dwellers, including the whites. They'll get to the most remote locations eventually.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 10, 2016 2:43 PM  

Since the Great Ammo Shortage, in my rural area, it's been typical for folks to have 500-1000 rounds for each gun, and as many as 5000 for their favorite hunting rifle. Between myself and my 10 closest neighbors, I think we could come up with 20K rounds easily. And Tom, the gun nut down the street, we probably has 50K rounds on hand.

I just don't see even 1000 looters and scavengers making it this far.

Blogger VD June 10, 2016 2:46 PM  

Maybe you tan well?

I tan red, as it happens.

Blogger Chris Mallory June 10, 2016 2:46 PM  

@115 And the average black probably has more survival sense than the average white city dweller. Neither group will make it very far.

Anonymous Baseball Savant June 10, 2016 2:54 PM  

"I tan red, as it happens."

touche!

Blogger Cail Corishev June 10, 2016 3:23 PM  

They'll get to the most remote locations eventually.

Sure, some will. But unless you planted your redoubt five miles outside the city limits because you wanted to be close to urban amenities, you're not going to face "hordes" that threaten to run you out of ammo like a Burt scene from Tremors.

Blogger Cail Corishev June 10, 2016 3:27 PM  

I think it is Sailer that says that they are more compliant/trainable house servants.

Derb pointed out that the immigration situation had a lot to do with whites being much more comfortable with smaller, grateful brown people around them as servants than with larger, resentful black people.

Anonymous andon June 10, 2016 3:59 PM  

121. Blogger Cail Corishev June 10, 2016 3:27 PM
I think it is Sailer that says that they are more compliant/trainable house servants.

Derb pointed out that the immigration situation had a lot to do with whites being much more comfortable with smaller, grateful brown people around them as servants than with larger, resentful black people.


I haven't seen many of those lately

Anonymous andon June 10, 2016 4:01 PM  

btw, anyone else notice social engineering in the captchas?

Anonymous Quartermaster June 10, 2016 4:09 PM  

@123
I haven't seen it in any of those I've gotten. they have, however, become onerous for me.

Blogger Were-Puppy June 10, 2016 4:21 PM  

@17 Aeoli Pera

Ja know, having reflected on this, I've flipped back to Trump. Maybe someone like me just plain should not be voting, clearly I don't understand it U___U. German and Irish, doncha know, like that psycho Molyneux chap (he means well, I think).
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You're channeling Teddy!

Blogger Were-Puppy June 10, 2016 4:29 PM  

@22 JACIII
"Though I am X, internally I identify as Y."
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Though I am a honkee, internally I identify as a wigger.
Now do you think honkees want that loser on their team?
Will black people trust it?

For this one I have no pity.


"I am A, but I was raised by B."
---

I am a black kid, but I was raised by honkee cuckservatives.
This poor kid probably won't be accepted by either side.

For this one I have pity.


Nothing but the overt manifestation of your genes will matter. i.e. a white SJW with specialization in calling other white people racist will be the enemy of blacks. Because he is white.
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In other words, useful idiots won't be tolerated, by either side.
For the SJWs I have no pity.

Anonymous Discard June 10, 2016 4:38 PM  

121. Cail Corishev: It's not just that Mexican servants are non-threatening. They also know their place. Not like the uppity White man who might ask, "Catch the game last night?" With Mexican help, the linguistic and racial difference helps keep the social distance comfortably, without the need to display your dominance. It's a given.

Blogger Were-Puppy June 10, 2016 4:38 PM  

@36 Atomic Agent 13

The doom Vox speaks of may not even happen, if we manage to get a handle on immigration.
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It might not. But if we can get 8 years of Trump to prepare for the worst, then let us use the time wisely.

Blogger Megalomaniacal, Misogynist, Racist, Islamophobic, Ableist, Transphobic Hellhound June 10, 2016 4:45 PM  

@45 Quartermaster

Do you think the US is the Great Restrainer?

Blogger Megalomaniacal, Misogynist, Racist, Islamophobic, Ableist, Transphobic Hellhound June 10, 2016 5:02 PM  

@81 Dexter
Parts of middle Georgia may only discover a race war happened by the sudden lack of bullshit coming out of Atlanta.

They'll discover it by the horde of millions of human locusts that emerges in search of food when they have stripped Atlanta to the bone.

Middle Georgia will run out of bullets before Atlanta runs out of zombies.
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No way. You're forgetting there are a lot of shotgun wielding Asians they have to get past around the perimeter before wandering down into any other part of Georgia.

Blogger Megalomaniacal, Misogynist, Racist, Islamophobic, Ableist, Transphobic Hellhound June 10, 2016 5:35 PM  

@99 Chris Mallory

How many do you think will survive the dysentery and cholera once whitey isn't there to make sure they aren't crapping in their water supply?
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Funny you mention their water supply. Most of it is coming from Lake Lanier, which is a good ways north of Atlanta. The ACoE dams it up sometimes to regulate the flow of water.

I don't think they'll be crappin in it, but that doesn't mean it would get all the way to Atlanta either, if someone knew how to dam it.

Anonymous redsash June 10, 2016 5:40 PM  

General Kong, I have just promoted you to be our 5 star general. Plasticization. Should have been done to Ali with Ken Norton and Joe Frazier standing over him. America has gone ape shit with islamiac prayers eliminating from the South's most northern city.

Anonymous BGKB June 10, 2016 5:57 PM  

Parts of middle Georgia may only discover a race war happened by the sudden lack of bullshit coming out of Atlanta

"Hey PA it has been 2 weeks since we heard any news stories about Afirmative Action Govt Workers taking dumps in hallways, do you think they learned of toilet paper?" "No son didn't you we bubba & cooter blocked off all the roads past the 285 loop, only took a couple boxes of tacs"

They'll discover it by the horde of millions of human locusts that emerges in search of food when they have stripped Atlanta to the bone....Middle Georgia will run out of bullets before Atlanta runs out of zombies.

They wont leave their claimed territories until after they have consumed bad food/water. All it takes is a couple of flattened tires to choke off major intersections.

Anonymous redsash June 10, 2016 6:20 PM  

#117, Alas my freckles just get darker and bigger. My lily white son in law had two grandmothers one Chippewa and one Cherokee. My first grandson when born looked like Geronimo and my second grandson looked like Winston Churchill. Genetics is God's little dice game.

Blogger GFR June 10, 2016 7:02 PM  

My recollection is that during the LA riots the blacks first scared the LAPD into running away, they then went around victimizing hispanics and fellow blacks - but didn't go a great distance from where they started. Then they burned down part of Koreatown except in certain areas where the Koreans were armed. Then they went to a tony White suburb (it might have been Brentwood) where the LAPD was told to make a stand. The LAPD did so and the riot ended.
.
Ironically the people in the tony White suburb were desperate for firearms, and were quite taken aback when it was explained that they could purchase their weapons immediately but that there was a ten day waiting period.
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The local thugs were apparently unnaffected by the waiting period.

Anonymous EH June 10, 2016 7:14 PM  

@86 JaimeinTexas on the Monster Vote

Those stats are incredible. I checked out the primary turnout numbers for 2008 vs. 2016:

Republicans up 47.9%, to 30,478,841
Democrats down 22.2%, to 28,934,873


I think this may be the first time Republican primary turnout has ever been higher than Democratic turnout in a year without a sitting president running for reelection.

See the raw primary numbers here:
2008 R primary, 2008 D primary
2016 R primary, 2016 D primary

Blogger Cail Corishev June 10, 2016 7:39 PM  

The lack of discussion of those turnout numbers tells me they're afraid. Some will say the big numbers are people turning out to vote against, not for. That's fine, but it's still a story, and it's hardly being reported because it doesn't fit with the narrative that no one (except some racists) is enthused about the candidates.

Anonymous Wanderer June 10, 2016 7:52 PM  

@134:

Ironically the people in the tony White suburb were desperate for firearms, and were quite taken aback when it was explained that they could purchase their weapons immediately but that there was a ten day waiting period.

So, they really cannot have been white or they would have planned ahead.

Anonymous Bo Sears June 10, 2016 7:59 PM  

#109 above is on to something, the possibility that the federal government (and implicitly including Obama) about black-Latino relations. Obviously the Latinos will take the entry level jobs in construction, farm work, restaurant work, and teaching (second language, etc.) and will push Africans away, far away. I think black Americans will live to weep over Obama's legacy which may have been sold as undermining white American domination, but which will impoverish blacks far more and without possibility of recovering what they have now. Turn out the lights, guys, when you have to leave the mansion.

Anonymous Quartermaster June 10, 2016 8:44 PM  

@123
Haven't seen any social engineering the in Captchas I've gotten, but they have become onerous.

@128
No. I think that's the Holy Spirit.

@130
I think the raw water will get cut off from Atlanta when the balloon goes up. When the water storage is emptied, you'll start seeing water borne illnesses go through the roof. There may be a few vibrants that exit Atlanta, but most will be unable to do much once they are out.

@137
Yep! They're WINOs.

@138
They could have put much of the racial legacy behind them, if they'd had any sense. Being stupid, on the other hand, they yielded to their desire for revenge against whitey who actually did nothing to them except try to pay them off with welfare. I don't blame them for resenting the patronization of the left, but they have shot themselves in the foot over the last 8 years when they could have used the opportunities they had to dig themselves out of the hole they and left for dug for them.

Personally, I feel for them, but just don't seem to be able to find them.

Anonymous Rhetoric Man June 10, 2016 9:14 PM  

"With whom are you going to side when it comes? More importantly, with whom are you going to be permitted to side?"

White people can decide for themselves who to associate with. They certainly do not need white elitists demanding that they must be "pro-white", lest they be deemed "anti-white".

Blogger James Dixon June 10, 2016 9:44 PM  

> White people can decide for themselves who to associate with.

Can they? Really. Would you let a Bush or Clinton into your stronghold?

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 10, 2016 9:53 PM  

Rhetoric Man wrote:White people can decide for themselves who to associate with. They certainly do not need white elitists demanding that they must be "pro-white", lest they be deemed "anti-white".

And RM comes in to prove that he is still capable of aggressively missing the point.

"The Jews can decide for themselves whether to join the NSDAP or not."
"The Tutsi can decide for themselves if they wish to associate with the Hutu!"
"Southrons can decide for themselves which side to associate with"
"Loyalists can decide for themselves whether they will associate with the Revolutionaries!"

You will be allowed to join the group that wants you.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 10, 2016 9:54 PM  

Nothing to do with "white elitists"

Blogger VFM #7634 June 10, 2016 10:46 PM  

@Snidely Whiplash

Libertarian weenies don't get it that in a world where all non-whites look out for their own kind, not looking out for our own kind is unilateral disarmament and essentially gives permission for all other groups to rip us off.

Again, libertarians = cucks.

Anonymous andon June 10, 2016 11:28 PM  

139. Anonymous Quartermaster June 10, 2016 8:44 PM
@123
Haven't seen any social engineering the in Captchas I've gotten, but they have become onerous.


eh, its prob nothing. I thought BlogSpot is owned by google maybe, so im suspicious and I notice that the "storefront" captchas seem to have a lot of mooslim and spanish looking language but never say Russian or French or maybe Japanese or Chinese. sometimes I think they're giving me the finger but maybe its just my imagination.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 10, 2016 11:28 PM  

Rhetoric Man has this wierd idea that in a race war, Whties will shun him if he sides with Blacks or Latinos.
Blacks and Latinos will peremptorily shoot him because "your skin is your uniform". Whites will probably let him join up.

Until he opens his mouth.

Blogger Bosefus June 11, 2016 1:21 AM  

Escape from LA... Who cares what these places have become... they are not America. Cities suck as do most city slickers. I think all will pass with out much ado. Just cut off the welfare card and let all welfare users have at it like Venesuela. Sort of like the Donner Party once the snow sets in.

I doubt most Americans will evan care more than an applause for a good score by one side or the other. They aint Americans, just city scum so all their losses will lighten the load.

Case solved.

Anonymous SciVo June 11, 2016 2:50 AM  

BGKB wrote:They'll discover it by the horde of millions of human locusts that emerges in search of food when they have stripped Atlanta to the bone....Middle Georgia will run out of bullets before Atlanta runs out of zombies.

They wont leave their claimed territories until after they have consumed bad food/water. All it takes is a couple of flattened tires to choke off major intersections.


I have to call bullshit on both of those. 10.1M in Georgia, 5.7M in Atlanta Metro, 1.8M rural. It would literally take each redneck just ten bullets to double-tap the rest of the state, half of them for the Atlantans.

But on the flip side, homo sapiens sapiens is the best at long-distance travel due to bipedal locomotion being gravity-assisted through center-shifting. As long as a human can track something, he can eventually run it down.

So you can't put too much faith in blocking roads. If you're serious about avoiding conflict, take however much distance you thought you needed and multiply it out.

And that's before looking at the history of the bicycle.

Anonymous Bukulu June 11, 2016 3:37 AM  

SciVi,

That wonderful bipedaling goes a lot slower if you've already got dysentery due to not reading the signs and signals of collapse properly.

Anonymous Baseball Savant June 11, 2016 9:48 AM  

"I tan red, as it happens."

This kind of proves my point however. You can speak chinese but you ain't passing for no chink. And you are too white to pass for some spic. I mean, come on dude. You can pass for a multitdue? Let's see, I can pass as an American, German, Italian, Englishman, Swede and Frenchman. I'm still white.

You wrote a blog post entitled "Your skin is your uniform".

I deal in facts. You are about as white as you can get. Observable facts are that you are a pale, pasty, short, bald white dude with a dad bod. Come on man, who much whiter can you be!!???

No one is denying your genetic test. Let's all bow down to genetics!!!!!! Nobody is doubting your brothers or mother.

But don't you see how blitheringly stupid you sound by not being able to look in the mirror?

Anonymous BGKB June 11, 2016 9:57 AM  

If you're serious about avoiding conflict, take however much distance you thought you needed and multiply it out

I understand Channelization aka. Lines of Drift (equally important as distance), have you ever heard of Hurricane Katrina/Sandy? What did N.O. blacks (including the mayor) do for themselves to get out?

sometimes I think they're giving me the finger but maybe its just my imagination.

I used to hate the egg ones as they usually had food made with eggs as an ingredient showing but disqualifying me.

Snidely Whiplash Until he opens his mouth. Hush now he might be able to sneak into someone's group & its your fault

Anonymous Mr. Rational June 11, 2016 1:44 PM  

Gaiseric wrote:Not a lot of wetbacks in Italy.
Yeah, they're usually dry by the time they walk off the coast guard cutters that pull them off their sinking rubber rafts in the Mediterranian.

When Europeans finally take back their governments, those cutters will just ram the rapefugee boats and move on.  Within 2 days, nobody will be setting off in boats any more.  Problem solved.

Blogger Rusty Fife June 11, 2016 3:13 PM  

BGKB wrote:sometimes I think they're giving me the finger but maybe its just my imagination.

I used to hate the egg ones as they usually had food made with eggs as an ingredient showing but disqualifying me.


I worry that all we're doing by answering the Captcha is training AI's to be our new ROBOT overlords.

Anonymous Mr. Rational June 11, 2016 4:17 PM  

@130 et sequelae:  Learn to use the blog's quoting mechanism, pls.  It's there for a reason (that reason being superior intelligibility).

SciVo wrote:So you can't put too much faith in blocking roads. If you're serious about avoiding conflict, take however much distance you thought you needed and multiply it out.
You're assuming that NAPAs aren't scared of the woods.  They will try to steal cars from wherever they wind up, but if they keep running into roofing nails they won't get far.  There was a NAPA who tried armed robbery in a town not far from me last year.  It didn't take long for him to be run down in the woods and captured.  In a zombie horde situation the first hunter to spot him would have put him down permanently.

And that's before looking at the history of the bicycle.
Off-road cycling is a White thing.  The typical NAPA probably doesn't even recognize a bicycle as transportation, and in a SHTF situation there will be no time for knowledge to spread and tactics to adapt.

Now imagine caltrops, roadblocks and snipers (some using crossbows for stealth) in hunting blinds.  The NAPAs will be dead meat.

Anonymous Discard June 12, 2016 4:25 AM  

154. Mr Rational:

"No matter what happens
We have got
IQ 100
And they have not".

And that is one piece of the White Man's Magic that Dindus cannot get ahold of.

Anonymous Mr. Rational June 12, 2016 9:14 AM  

@155 Truly a Maxim to live by.

Of course, we also have to worry about the 115-IQ (((helpers))) who weaponized the dindus in the first place.

Anonymous Stan d Mute June 12, 2016 2:07 PM  

You should get out more. The Africans are overwhelmingly in ghetto pockets geographically. 100% of what they consume is transported in to them - all their food, energy, water, etc, comes from the outside. Access to the production areas is via highway and railway corridors. These are *easily* shut down to vehicular traffic. So now they're what? Walking? Morbidly obese mobs are going to hoof it fifty miles into white agricultural areas to seize food from farmers and processors on their own turf? For certain, whites in places like Detroit, Chicago, Philly, Atlanta, etc, will suffer enormously and it's easy to imagine that most will die horribly. But that will only further galvanize exurban and rural whites to resolve the situation permanently. The State will be completely occupied trying to keep ports open and quell urban populations so "humanitarian relief" can occur.

The key to survival for whites will be their speed in evacuating the urban hell zones and pre-planned safe harbor in flyover country.

Anonymous Mr. Rational June 12, 2016 2:24 PM  

Stan d Mute wrote:The Africans are overwhelmingly in ghetto pockets geographically. 100% of what they consume is transported in to them - all their food, energy, water, etc, comes from the outside. Access to the production areas is via highway and railway corridors. These are *easily* shut down to vehicular traffic. So now they're what? Walking? Morbidly obese mobs are going to hoof it fifty miles into white agricultural areas to seize food from farmers and processors on their own turf?
The dangerous ones won't be the ghettopotami, by and large (though if they can steal cars on the far side of the roadblocks even they can go quite a ways).  The real danger will be the 12-to-35-yr-old warrior types, who CAN cover miles of distance and are quite willing to carjack to save their feet.

They're not going to go for farms if they're hungry.  They're going to head for the familiar, meaning fast-food and grocery stores.  They may even try to get liquor and tobacco before food.  If the locals have the presence of mind to set up roadblocks and use snipers, that will all be for naught.  If they don't, it could get ugly.

Blogger xenophon1 June 12, 2016 9:43 PM  

Chittum predicted all of this 20+ years ago: http://www.resist.com/CWII.pdf

Anonymous Discard June 13, 2016 3:49 AM  

Mr Rational: Once we're playing a ground game, the (((Helpers))) won't matter. Once they've wound the NAPAs up and sent them off, they'll have no more control. No (((Helper))) will be standing by to steer the zombie horde around the countryside, they'll be in hiding.

We can call it the de-Browning of America.

Anonymous Mr. Rational June 17, 2016 1:47 AM  

Discard wrote:Once we're playing a ground game, the (((Helpers))) won't matter.
Actually, they will.  Aren't we still being guilt-tripped some 7 decades later by something that happened an ocean away, under a completely different government?

We are going to have to make certain, one way or another, that the necessary actions are not brought back to justify genocidal attacks against us AGAIN.  I suspect that one of the requirements is to have enough documentation to prove that the dead dindus deserved their fates, and enough deliberate confusion to suggest that most of the dindus were not killed but recolonized or otherwise sent to live under their own rule by their own efforts.

I'm sure a mythology as powerful as that of the (((helpers))) can be constructed if there is the will to do so.  A pro-West effort as strong as the anti-West system now in place should have no trouble getting the job done; the biggest issue will be making sure that evidence contrary to the official story is too hard to reconstruct.

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