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Friday, June 03, 2016

Trump as tribal leader

Rod Dreher notes with alarm and chagrin the rise of a white tribal identity:
Yes, Trump’s rise, and his rise as a white identity candidate, is frightening. But he didn’t come from nowhere, nor is he solely the creation of conservatism (indeed, he’s barely a conservative at all). I expect Hillary Clinton to use a lot of unity rhetoric this fall. But here’s the thing: if she wins, I fully expect her to govern as someone who treats my own tribe — conservative Christians — as the enemy. That does not mean I will vote for Trump, or will vote at all. I know conservative Christians who fear and loathe Trump so much that they’re going to vote for Hillary, a candidate they believe despises their kind, for the sake of the common good. I know Christians who despise Trump but who are voting for him, or withholding their vote, because they cannot cast a ballot for a candidate (Hillary) they are certain will name Supreme Court justices who will roll back religious liberty.

The point is that the nation is fractured and fracturing. Both political parties have benefited from the ideological divide they have created, and that historical circumstances have created. What’s new about Trump is that for the first time, many whites are seeing themselves the way Democrats and the liberal media have encouraged blacks, Hispanics, and gays to see themselves: as a tribe.
This is significant, because it means the cuckservatives are beginning to figure out that their position is not merely a losing one, it is entirely untenable. We'll know that full-blown tribal politics have become the new normal once even white SJWs like John Scalzi suddenly begin claiming that they were white nationalists all along.

Many of them already are, of course, there is a reason why Scalzi chooses to live in a lily-white Ohio town rather than among the various ethnics he professes to love so much. But for now, they still realize some value from pretending otherwise.

This is a very positive development for America, because America is, and always has been, a white Anglo nation. The fact that the political entity has been invaded and that political citizenship has been granted to anyone and everyone with a pulse merely means that the nation has submitted and been oppressed, it doesn't mean that the nation has been changed in any material manner. Playing word games with definitions is the hallmark of those who stand irretrievably opposed to history, science, and reality, and they always wind up losing in the end.

Those who decry "Trumpism" have it entirely backwards. Trump is merely riding the wave of the rise of the birth of a generic white American identity, which like all such identities, is the result of external pressure rather than internal conviction. And that is why it does not matter what he says or does, because unlike so many of his predecessors on both sides of the political aisle, Donald Trump has aligned himself with the white American tribe.

It is long past time for white Americans to follow the lead of the blacks, the Jews, and the Asians, and allow themselves to be guided solely by the principle: is it good for the whites? Serve the nation, not the empire.

As for those who cry for the empire and fear it will be destroyed, yes, that is exactly what will happen. It is not longer fit for purpose. But it is a little late for tears, as its fate was settled in 1965.

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Anonymous WinstonWebb June 03, 2016 8:09 AM  

Even the traitorous media can no longer spin the narrative about where the violence is coming from.

The worm.
She will turn.

Blogger Orville June 03, 2016 8:11 AM  

External pressures. If the Dindus would leave well enough alone I probably wouldn't be at this point. I'm sick and tired of seeing the encroaching black death transform my suburb to the point that I no longer go for walks unarmed, and have to avoid the local park because it is now infested with young black males. That and the predominantly black Free Shit Army that I have to pay taxes for has really changed my attitude towards them.

Anonymous mature craig June 03, 2016 8:11 AM  

Cant keep myself away. I think white would be better off if they looked out for each other more. It seems to me tribalism doesnt come as naturally to them

Blogger Nate June 03, 2016 8:16 AM  

"External pressures. If the Dindus would leave well enough alone I probably wouldn't be at this point."

You can blame the blacks of course. But you're stopping one step short of the actual enemy. Those blacks are just puppets jerking around on the strings pulled by elite white liberals.

Anonymous WinstonWebb June 03, 2016 8:25 AM  

Nate,
Shouldn't that be: "Those blacks are just puppets jerking around on the strings pulled by elite (((white))) liberals."?

Blogger Unknown June 03, 2016 8:27 AM  

"Trump is merely riding the wave of the rise of the birth of a generic white American identity, which like all such identities, is the result of external pressure rather than internal conviction."

Made me think of a quote from Hegel:
Man exists only in so far as he is opposed

Anonymous JAG June 03, 2016 8:27 AM  

Won't be long now -

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/06/03/donald-trump-supporters-terrorized-by-raging-mobs-in-san-jose-a-democrat-mayor-and-police-chief-watched-it-all/

Punch them in the nose phase may be too late. If the cops are going to just follow orders and watch as law abiding people are assaulted by thugs and goons then shit is going to get a whole lot worse real soon.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan June 03, 2016 8:28 AM  

In part I guess the cucks are concern trolling their betters to please stop the tribal politics

Anonymous Athor Pel June 03, 2016 8:33 AM  

'is it good for whites?' has a corollary, to paraphrase Rollo Tomassi, For one tribe's strategy to succeed the other's must either be compromised or abandoned.

Anonymous Zhukovg June 03, 2016 8:44 AM  

I tried to point out to Rod that Trump is not the disaster. Trump is a 'stay of execution'. But he's too busy virtue signaling his non-support of Trump to really see reality.

Blogger Aaron Swenson June 03, 2016 8:45 AM  

Wonder when Trump will be in TX. I will gladly go to an event to provide armed security free of charge :) if I get to cap a raging dindu or beandip, call that a bonus!

Anonymous Steve June 03, 2016 8:47 AM  

The point is that the nation is fractured and fracturing.

Well, duh.

As far back as the 90's the Clintons were boasting that whites would become a minority in the US this century.

Elite Americans have been revelling in this demographic trend for two decades and rubbing it in the faces of middle class and working class whites at every opportunity.

Since 1961, Affirmative Action laws and related feminist shenanigans have meant white men are the only demographic it's lawful to discriminate against. As America becomes browner, the cost of this to white men as a group has grown exponentially.

In the early 60's you could afford to give 10% of the population special treatment, with negligible impact on the 90%. But when 30, 40, 50% + of the country are entitled to some form of privileged treatment it's a recipe for strife.

The media has gone out of its way to shit on rural whites, Christians, fathers, and conservatives.

Academia has been hijacked by an intersectional feminist cult that views the heterosexual white man much the same way Stalin viewed kulaks.

So wrapped up in their "right side of history" delusion are the SJW's that they forget - or never understood - the lessons of history.

A dead white Christofascist cismale called Isaac Newton once noticed that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.

They think Trump is the Final Boss, but - and much as I admire the man Milo calls "Daddy" - he's just the first God Emperor of the dawning Age of Shitlords.

Sundials often bore the motto "serius est quam cogitas". Translated into modern English, this means:

"TICK, TOCK, MOTHERFUCKERS"

Blogger tz June 03, 2016 8:48 AM  

Buchanan didn't get traction in 2000, but we weren't as bad off as NAFTA and the housing bubble and China were just starting.

Tribal? perhaps. But it does matter what Trump says toward that. Stopping immigration is a key issue.

@7 it begins. I expect someone on the alt-right to be executed by SJWs while the cops do nothing before the year is out.

Anonymous A Visitor June 03, 2016 8:50 AM  

People decrying all this, I've got news. It's not new.

After all, there's "Clean Pastures" from 1937.

Also, had I known I would've had the day off when Trump was here a few months back in Indy, I would've gladly have gone. Oh well, there's always after he's elected!

Blogger Alexander June 03, 2016 8:56 AM  

They wanted race/class/sex consciousness.

Now they're getting it, good and hard.

Blogger bob k. mando June 03, 2016 8:59 AM  

everybody who understands what triggered Vox to write yesterdays #StandWithHate poast, raise your hand.

Anonymous Moonbear June 03, 2016 9:06 AM  

JAG wrote:Won't be long now -

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/06/03/donald-trump-supporters-terrorized-by-raging-mobs-in-san-jose-a-democrat-mayor-and-police-chief-watched-it-all/

Punch them in the nose phase may be too late. If the cops are going to just follow orders and watch as law abiding people are assaulted by thugs and goons then shit is going to get a whole lot worse real soon.


Those antifascist fascists sure are anti fascistic in their fascistic work.

Blogger Joshua Sinistar June 03, 2016 9:06 AM  

Vox won't go there, so I'll spell it out. Hitler has won. The NWO is dead, The Thousand Year Reich is rising. All those ancient hatreds between Europeans have magically disappeared. All it took, was A COMMON ENEMY.
Sieg Heil, Mein Fuhrer. God knows you were right. England is paying the price for siding with Satan's children. Now they know Chamberlain was right, and Churchill just a washed up drunken Judas Goat!
National Socialism is THE FUTURE. Trump represents the nationalists, and that lying rat Colonel Sanders is with the socialist wing. Put it together and you get NATIONAL SOCIALISM. You cannot fight an idea whose TIME HAS COME. I told you years ago, and now you will see it. I will surf this wave all the way to THE TOP.

Anonymous mature craig June 03, 2016 9:10 AM  

But for me having had so very many good experiences with my African brothers and sisters. I see them as just as much my brothers and sisters as I do with whitey.

Blogger YIH June 03, 2016 9:14 AM  

Zhukovg wrote:I tried to point out to Rod that Trump is not the disaster. Trump is a 'stay of execution'. But he's too busy virtue signaling his non-support of Trump to really see reality.
While I do like to read Dreher's writings, his habit of 'trying to have things both ways' is aggravating. He really does not want to acknowledge that his Jesus as coca-cola ad dream is wrong and can only lead to ruin.
He was like that over Trayvon as well; ''No, Zimmerman wasn't wrong to shoot that ape, but if he hadn't done this, and this, and that, he wouldn't have had to''
Yes, Trump’s rise, and his rise as a white identity candidate, is frightening.
And you wonder why I call him 'The American Cuckservative'?
He's more afraid of White gentiles defending themselves (because lynchings and holocaust) than he is of those attacking them.

Anonymous WinstonWebb June 03, 2016 9:15 AM  

But for me having had so very many good experiences with my African brothers and sisters. I see them as just as much my brothers and sisters as I do with whitey.

Then go live in one of their neighborhoods, craig. I'm sure you'll be welcomed with open arms. Hell, you'll be so popular, you won't even need to lock your doors.

Blogger alexamenos June 03, 2016 9:15 AM  

I'm seeing lots of white liberals looking at footage of flag waving mexicans and saying 'this has to stop because it's going to get Trump elected.'

That's significant IMO, even liberals are getting it at a visceral level.

Blogger rumpole5 June 03, 2016 9:16 AM  

An interesting point is that minorities are materially better off living as second citizens in Western Christendom, than they are as equal citizens in their source nations. I have seen this very clearly in my association with my wife's culture. She is a direct descendent of one of the soldiers in Cromwell's Jamaican invasion army, who then went on to found her island nation. When I first went there some 36 years back, everything of consequence was owned, initiated by, and managed by those who are purer descendants of the founding English and Scottish immigrants. As their fellow islanders of greater African descent have become more involved in government and other institutions, one can see the decline in the effectiveness of those entities. To insure the delivery of mail to the island, we now have to wait till some friend or relative is in the States, and have them take the letter back. The New English Governor recently did an audit that revealed an astounding sum missing from government accounts. Welcome to the third world!
have become more

Blogger Gaiseric June 03, 2016 9:16 AM  

WinstonWebb wrote:Shouldn't that be: "Those blacks are just puppets jerking around on the strings pulled by elite (((white))) liberals."?
Not necessarily. The idiot New Englander elites are as white Anglo-Saxon as they come, for the most part. There are plenty of (((white))) liberals who are to blame, but there are also plenty of white liberals to blame.

Blogger CarpeOro June 03, 2016 9:17 AM  

"Barack Obama: If we turn against each other based on division of race or religion. If-if-if-if-if-if-if-if-if-if-if we fall for, you know, a bunch of okie-doke, just because, you know it-it-it. You know, it-it-it-it-it-it sounds funny or the tweets are provocative."

When cue cards fail and there is nothing to fall back on... Dan Quayle is starting to look smrt in retrospect. If ever there was a reason to revisit the requirements to be a voter, Zero is it.

Anonymous Bobby Farr June 03, 2016 9:19 AM  

The political violence of foreigners is a step in the right direction but it seems likely that it won't be until after Trump's election that it will be time for the good guys to get violent and begin cleaning house.

Anonymous ZhukovG June 03, 2016 9:24 AM  

I have sympathy for African-Americans. They are truly a North American Nation that has nowhere else to go. Perhaps after they have been purged of their incorrigible elements we Southerners can make some accommodation for their remnant within our society.

But for the Hispanic invaders, nothing. They can leave on their feet or in a bag, I don’t care which.

Anonymous mature craig June 03, 2016 9:25 AM  

Been living amongst them for a long time never had a problem learned thongs too

Blogger VD June 03, 2016 9:29 AM  

Do not attempt to tell who can, or cannot, comment here, Elipe. This is not your site.

Also, do learn to ignore the trolls and paid provocateurs. Their objective, and in some cases their literal job, is to provoke argument. Just ignore them.

Anonymous Cheddarman June 03, 2016 9:29 AM  

To he'll with you, Hitler and National Socialism. You people almost destroyed the land of my German forefathers. Your kind delivered half of Europe to the filthy Bolsheviks.

Anonymous Cheddarman June 03, 2016 9:30 AM  

And how do they see you, Craig?

Blogger VD June 03, 2016 9:31 AM  

But for me having had so very many good experiences with my African brothers and sisters. I see them as just as much my brothers and sisters as I do with whitey.

That's nice. They don't. You're an idiot, Craig.

Anonymous WinstonWebb June 03, 2016 9:32 AM  

mature craigJune 03, 2016 9:25 AM
Been living amongst them for a long time never had a problem learned thongs too

You've been living in a predominantly black neighborhood? Either you are black yourself, or you are lying, or the only things you've learned are all crime-related.

Anonymous Philipp June 03, 2016 9:32 AM  

Whites in the U.S. seeing themselves as their own tribe is the inevitable consequence of mass immigration. People in the U.S. will vote for the candidate of their own tribe just like they do in Africa.

Nothing surprising about that. And as Vox said this is actually a good development.

Blogger Rusty Fife June 03, 2016 9:34 AM  

ZhukovG wrote:I have sympathy for African-Americans. They are truly a North American Nation that has nowhere else to go. Perhaps after they have been purged of their incorrigible elements we Southerners can make some accommodation for their remnant within our society.

The Yankees fought for them; they can have 'em.

Blogger Conan the Cimmerian June 03, 2016 9:34 AM  

@28 " learned thongs too"

They didn't invent thongs, man.

Blogger VD June 03, 2016 9:34 AM  

Your kind delivered half of Europe to the filthy Bolsheviks.

It wasn't National Socialism per se, but Hitler and the pan-Germanic Lebensraum advocates that accomplished that. If Hitler had merely been a National Socialist instead also being a deluded mystic with continental ambitions, Germany would probably still be a Nazi country today.

He could have gotten away with the Austrian Anschluss and the Sudentenland, but he just couldn't resist biting off more than the Germans could chew.

Shades of today's neocons.

Blogger Nate June 03, 2016 9:35 AM  

"Shouldn't that be: "Those blacks are just puppets jerking around on the strings pulled by elite (((white))) liberals."?"

No. that would be making the same mistake. I realize its nice to blame everything on jews but the fact is there are many parties at work. Some of them are jewish and some of them are not.

Blogger Conan the Cimmerian June 03, 2016 9:36 AM  

@5 @24

The zeitgeist thought leaders of the NE liberal whites are the (((whites))).

Blogger Nate June 03, 2016 9:37 AM  

"That's nice. They don't. You're an idiot, Craig."

ding ding ding

doesn't mean the two populations can't get along just fine under circumstances... but a degree of separation makes things much better. And they want it that way too. You aren't their brother and they don't want you to be their brother.

Blogger Conan the Cimmerian June 03, 2016 9:38 AM  

@37

He could have gotten away with the Austrian Anschluss and the Sudentenland, but he just couldn't resist biting off more than the Germans could chew.

And an even greater power in the world today. At least #2.

Blogger Nate June 03, 2016 9:39 AM  

"The Yankees fought for them; they can have 'em."

don't perpetuate the lie. Yankees didn't fight for them. Yankees fought for money and power.

Blogger Alexander June 03, 2016 9:42 AM  

@23

Part of #PortlandValues is ensuring that San Jose never, ever comes to Portland.

Keep it up and Oregon will go dark red because they'll see the big beautiful wall as necessary triage. Even the densest hipster realizes on some level that fair trade coffee, sushi restaurants, and movies in the park don't happen in brown-majority warzones.

Blogger Teri June 03, 2016 9:43 AM  

It's pretty clear from the videos that people were attacked because they were white. And it seems to have been caused by a Latino major. They are making a mistake if they think creating their own no go zone is a good idea.

OpenID paworldandtimes June 03, 2016 9:43 AM  

I have sympathy for African-Americans

I have none.

PA

Anonymous ZhukovG June 03, 2016 9:48 AM  

@37

I have war gamed exactly that scenario. It results in a Germany that is both an industrial and military superpower. It's also a bit dull, unless Stalin becomes stupidly ambitious.

Blogger VD June 03, 2016 9:48 AM  

And that, Cheddarman, is why you aren't supposed to be dumb enough to touch the poop.

That's enough, Joshua. You're not derailing this comment thread.

Blogger Alexander June 03, 2016 9:49 AM  

Sympathy for the black card has been well maxed out.

1. The majority of blacks in this country now come from immigrants who chose to come here, and not the great-great-great whatever of some guy forced on the boat.

2. They're social goodwill is less than nill.

I always laugh when I hear "it's too expensive to send them back to Africa." By the time the majority of Americans are on board with shipping them anywhere, we'll just throw them in the same bus as the latins and let Mexico deal with the trans-atlantic leg of the journey.

Blogger James Dixon June 03, 2016 9:49 AM  

> "Those blacks are just puppets jerking around on the strings pulled by elite (((white))) liberals."?

No. They're not a large enough force to do this by themselves. It takes willing allies.

Blogger The Deuce June 03, 2016 9:51 AM  

We'll know that full-blown tribal politics have become the new normal once even white SJWs like John Scalzi suddenly begin claiming that they were white nationalists all along.

This is true, but it's also an example of why the (sadly necessary) rise of white tribal politics is so regrettable. I've got absolutely no overlap with an SJW like Scalzi in terms of political interests. If the two of us ever end up voting for the same guy, you can bet that one or both of us is being screwed over.

One can readily see how the black community has royally screwed itself over with its tribalism. Decades of voting for the black guy out of tribal loyalty, just because he's the black guy and not because his policies are any good, has predictably left them with corrupt politicians who gain power by taking advantage of tribal resentment and tribal loyalty rather than by actually accomplishing anything productive. They've managed to vote themselves plenty of welfare checks and other spoils, but of course that only makes a community poorer and more dependent over time.

And yet, at the same time, with everybody else engaging in identity politics in increasing numbers, and with the Left having turned into a growing rainbow coalition of racial identity groups that are explicitly making cultural war on white people for being white, "white interests" are now a real thing which white people will have little choice but to band together and vote for simply as a means of self-defense if nothing else. It's going to get ugly.

Anonymous Bobby Farr June 03, 2016 9:52 AM  

Have to give Trump credit for responding to the attacks on his supporters by repeating his promise to build a wall and deport. No talk of needing to get along or how these people don't reflect real Mexicans. Still, it is probably a tall order to think places like San Jose can be purged and reclaimed. But increasing violence, dissolution of the USA and creation of far right old stock nation-state(s) from the salvageable bits is an acceptable outcome and far better than the Brazil/Californification that seemed inevitable a year or two ago.

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Anonymous Elijah Rhodes June 03, 2016 9:54 AM  

I'm seeing lots of white liberals looking at footage of flag waving mexicans and saying 'this has to stop because it's going to get Trump elected.'

That's significant IMO, even liberals are getting it at a visceral level.

A realization that rioting is a poor approach tactically isn't exactly "getting it". They are simply realizing that the vibrants are hurting their own cause. Nothing more, nothing less.

The reactionary impuse of vibrants, whos time preferences and low IQ have prevented them from building and maintaining cogent civilizations are now fueling the rise of the right. The Leftist intelligencia, who view brown people as pets and pawns, are getting worried about this.

Similarly, Muslim asylum seekers are also so profoundly shortsighted that instead of laying low and feigning interest in western values in order to vastly increase their numbers, can't see past the next piece of ass. It's like the "squirrel" gag from the movie Up.

This is why, when push comes to shove, I believe that western men, who are far more competent tacticians, will rise up and take care of business.

Blogger Mike Romkey June 03, 2016 9:55 AM  

Vote for someone who despises you for the "common good"? Holy cow! What kind of thinking is that? It's a little sad to think that identity flows from external threat rather than conviction. Maybe that's a chicken-or-egg first distinction.

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus June 03, 2016 9:56 AM  

This is troubling.

Well, no, not really.

Blogger Gaiseric June 03, 2016 9:57 AM  

VD wrote:He could have gotten away with the Austrian Anschluss and the Sudentenland, but he just couldn't resist biting off more than the Germans could chew.

Shades of today's neocons.

It was never going to be acceptable to Germany to live with the loses of territory in Silesia, Pomerania, Danzig, and the Polish corridor, etc., though.

Although he could have waited that issue out a little bit and continued to negotiate from a position of strength. Given Hitler's astute viewing of Stalin as manipulating the German communist party and forming the most immediate existential threat to his own party's continued rule, it was probably inevitable that he'd clash with the Soviets too.

I'm not sure if Hitler could have managed to juggle Churchill and Roosevelt (and maybe Lebrun, although maybe he didn't matter much, actually) while still accomplishing his goals of dismantling the vestiges of the Treaty of Versailles, given how much Roosevelt was an appeaser of Stalin (he makes Chamberlain look strong in comparison) and how much Churchill was part of the same cabal that drove the Anglo-German rivalry that caused WWI.

But yeah; he didn't even really try to. He may well have decided that he couldn't, and that neither Churchill nor Lebrun was a serious threat to his designs and that America would stay out given the American people's express desires to do so. It turned out to be wrong, of course, but those weren't at all unreasonable assumptions to have held.

Anonymous Orville June 03, 2016 9:57 AM  

@4 You can blame the blacks of course. But you're stopping one step short of the actual enemy. Those blacks are just puppets jerking around on the strings pulled by elite white liberals.

Nate, I'm not ignorant that the NWO types would like to foment a race war to consolidate their power, but that doesn't negate the tool they are using. And frankly I'm fed up with the excuse that poor Shitavious is this way because he don't got no daddy. I have individual black friends that are delightful and responsible, but I look in my suburb whose black population has exploded the last ten years, and whose crime rate has also exploded, and I can see where the problem is. So what if Soros and other NWO types are behind it, it is still a Huuge problem.

Anonymous Mr. Rational June 03, 2016 9:59 AM  

rumpole5 wrote:When I first went there some 36 years back, everything of consequence was owned, initiated by, and managed by those who are purer descendants of the founding English and Scottish immigrants. As their fellow islanders of greater African descent have become more involved in government and other institutions, one can see the decline in the effectiveness of those entities.
On this topic:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2009487/We-stayed-Britain-Shock-poll-reveals-60-Jamaicans-think-theyd-better-colony.html

CarpeOro wrote:If ever there was a reason to revisit the requirements to be a voter, Zero is it.
Definitely time for literacy tests again, and English only.

Anonymous #8601 Jean Valjean June 03, 2016 10:00 AM  

The dindus have been in America for hundreds of years, and have had every chance to fit into the culture.

No sympathy here.

Blogger Joshua Sinistar June 03, 2016 10:00 AM  

Vox this is your blog. I'm not hijacking anything. You're in Europe, and nearly as smart as me i expect. As the jews keep deep sixing Right Wing Parties, the White Europeans will keep going further right, and Hitler is as far right as they've ever gone. At this point its inevitable. After LePen and UKIP the rightward shift pushing against the foreign invasion and their jewish enablers must eventually get to Hitler or at least Napoleon or Mussolini. Just admit it. Its playing out right now before your very eyes.

Blogger Nate June 03, 2016 10:02 AM  

"I'm seeing lots of white liberals looking at footage of flag waving mexicans and saying 'this has to stop because it's going to get Trump elected.'"

Liberals have made excuses for this for decades. 20 years ago when the Mexican National team was playing the US in America... thousands of "americans" in mexican colors would wave mexican flags and they made excuses for it.

In the mid 2000s I watched a UFC fight in memphis... some undefeated mexican dude against an american champion. The place was packed with mexicans waving mexican flags. The american destroyed the mexican and the little brown fellow in front of me literally cried.

They are not americans.

Nothing about them is american. They dont even claim to be americans.

Ahh but the lilly white liberals who never actually come into contact with them... call them americans... from the safety of their lilly white ohio towns.

Blogger rumpole5 June 03, 2016 10:03 AM  

Look, American Blacks have been here 300 years. They belong here just as much as Apple pie and pulled pork barbecue. Would I want to live in a black neighborhood? No, of course not. But I wouldn't want to live in a neighborhood of toothless tattooed whites with cigarettes rolled up in their sleeves, hound dogs, and couches sitting on the sagging front porches and cars on blocks in the front yard either. Both neighborhoods are part of America, and I respect the rights of those folks to live that way if they so choose. What I object to is anyone putting down on me because I choose to live a different way. I have just as much right to live in my German American sub-culture as they do in theirs. Let's focus on our rights and cut out the intra sub-culture hatreds that the left wing elites are stirring up and using to screw the rest of us.

Blogger Gaiseric June 03, 2016 10:05 AM  

Mike Romkey wrote:Vote for someone who despises you for the "common good"? Holy cow! What kind of thinking is that? It's a little sad to think that identity flows from external threat rather than conviction. Maybe that's a chicken-or-egg first distinction.
Wait until the coverage of Leftist brown Mexican flag-waving and #BLM quoting riots that take place in Cleveland at the RNC, and across America all through the general election season.

There will be precious few who are so committed to whatever principles they think they are committed to who will watch that and still vote Democrat just to spite Trump. And many, many, many more who will vote Trump just to spite the invaders.

This isn't about Trump winning or not the election in November, really—that's just the small, short-term outcome. It's about the complete realignment of the political axis in America as Americans on one side, and invaders and their quisling rabbit supporters on the other. Right and left have no meaning anymore, at least for now. We can get back to arguing about how specifically to organize our country after we've made sure we've maintained a country to organize.

Anonymous fop June 03, 2016 10:09 AM  

Donald Trump has aligned himself with the white American tribe.

His (((grandchildren))) won't.

Anonymous mature craig June 03, 2016 10:09 AM  

I dont think im as smart as u r but I live in a state with a large population and I have a large sample size of human behavior to render my nudgements from.






Blogger Nate June 03, 2016 10:11 AM  

" And frankly I'm fed up with the excuse that poor Shitavious is this way because he don't got no daddy."

its not an excuse. It doesn't excuse the behavior or fix the problem.

its simply acknowledging that there are whites that have to be dealt with as well. But don't get to upset and fretfull over this stuff. The american black population is not that hard to settle down.

They've been enflamed... but once those enflaming them are dealt with in a few short years things can settle right down.

Anonymous Mr. Rational June 03, 2016 10:13 AM  

#8601 Jean Valjean wrote:The dindus have been in America for hundreds of years, and have had every chance to fit into the culture.

No sympathy here.

None here either.

rumpole5 wrote:Look, American Blacks have been here 300 years. They belong here just as much as Apple pie and pulled pork barbecue.
No they don't.  Assimilating into America means, at the very least, adopting American values and attitudes toward government and society.  The dindus have never done this, and are almost certainly incapable of doing this.  They will always be hostile, parasitic or both in America.  They need to be with their own, come hellhole or high water.

OpenID frankluke June 03, 2016 10:13 AM  

Lewis Grizzard wrote about this in the early nineties. He was tired of the media referring to voting patterns of the straight, southern, white male as the "Bubba Vote." He went on to stereotype other voting blocks. The was the Tree Hugger vote in Oregon and Washington, the Wimp and Wienie vote for New England males, and others.

And he had two final words on the Bubba Vote:
1) If my car breaks down in a rural area, I'd rather have a Bubba help me than a Tree Hugger. A Wimp and Wienie probably wouldn't even stop to help.

2) We have been patient as the other groups have consolidated into tribes; all the while poking fun at us. The SSWM can only be pushed so far. When we snap, it won't be pretty.

Anonymous Mr. Rational June 03, 2016 10:16 AM  

Nate wrote:They've been enflamed... but once those enflaming them are dealt with in a few short years things can settle right down.
America is not built on a hierarchy of übermensch and üntermensch.  They need to live with their own people, under their own rule, by their own labors.  Liberia was a good start.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY June 03, 2016 10:17 AM  

craig ,
Please stop,you have beclowned yourself enough.
You know the rest of the country is not NYC / Joisey don't you ?

Anonymous Quartermaster June 03, 2016 10:19 AM  

Dreher is one those people whose thought processes have been disconnected with reality. What did he expect with the rise of anti-white identity political and legal warfare?

His "cruchy conservatism" was never conservative. The man is simply a leftist.

@3
I've seen a few attempts at explaining why tribalism isn't something that is natural to the white population of the US, but none of them seem to work. Nationalism is a form of tribalism and Europe was shot through with it even well into the 60s when I lived in Germany. I'm guessing that the much stronger influence of Christianity in the US has a lot to do with it, but I can also see a lot holes in that hypothesis.

@12
I left the US for the second time in '66 when father got orders back to Germany. The country was solid and peaceful when I left. It was a mess when I came back in '69, and not at all peaceful. The left was ascendent and feeling it's oats. The Kent State shootings seemed to clam things a lot with people learning that this could go much to far.

The older libtards from that era, particularly those that have reached the conclusion that they didn't win back then because they were too afraid of what political violence would bring, are feeling their oats again and have had the ability to pollute the minds of the younger generations, are more than willing to fight this battle to the last of our grandkids. What we are seeing is the first stage of political violence.

Frankly, between economic stupidity and political fecklessness, Russia won't have to worry about us interfering with them. We're in the process of taking ourselves out. Trump may be a stay of execution in one sense, in others, however, he is much too little, much too late. The only question I see unanswered is how much can he save? I think the US is going to be a very pale shadow of itself in the very near future, most likely within 12-18 months.

@25
Starting to look smart? Quayle looks like an Genius next to Zer0 and his minions.

@40
It's sad to think that the black zenith was under Jim Crow. While there were some decent blacks that choked on Jim Crow, everyone was better off because of the separation.

@43
Where did you get the silly idea that the T-34 was “our best tank?” The Grant tank was our best tank when Germany went into the Soviet Union and it wouldn't run reliably on the poor quality fuel the Soviets made (we shipped them some and they performed poorly against the Germans as well). We also gave it to the Brits who abandoned it as quickly as they could. The T-34, on the other hand, entered combat long before we started significant shipping to the Soviet Union.

Anonymous ZhukovG June 03, 2016 10:20 AM  

@66

Spot on.

We Southerners made great progress civilizing the African-Americans. That is until bleeding heart Yankees, with the help of an ambitious Texas criminal, screwed it up,.

Blogger Teri June 03, 2016 10:21 AM  

I confess that I'm divided on this. I have a property that we've had various people cleaning up. The white folk have stolen stuff, left me with thousand dollar electric bills and allowed someone to dump garbage there. The Mexican down there now has been in the country for years and has a lawyer working on legal status for him. He works and pays the electric bill. And I haven't found anything stolen yet.

I don't want to see amnesty and I want people here illegally to be kicked out of the country. I want to see the immigration system reformed so that the process is smoother and doesn't drag on forever. And I'd like to see the birthright nonsense stopped. I suppose I come down in favor of those that work versus those that don't.

Blogger Matamoros June 03, 2016 10:26 AM  

@3 " I think white would be better off if they looked out for each other more. It seems to me tribalism doesnt come as naturally to them"

On the contrary, all the European states are simply tribes. The generic White tribe is what is new, and unique. It is a super-tribe.

Blogger Gaiseric June 03, 2016 10:26 AM  

@73: Anecdotes do not drive population level judgments very well. If Mexicans worked so well, how do you explain Mexico?

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 June 03, 2016 10:28 AM  

Teri wrote:I confess that I'm divided on this. I have a property that we've had various people cleaning up. The white folk have stolen stuff, left me with thousand dollar electric bills and allowed someone to dump garbage there. The Mexican down there now has been in the country for years and has a lawyer working on legal status for him. He works and pays the electric bill. And I haven't found anything stolen yet.

I don't want to see amnesty and I want people here illegally to be kicked out of the country. I want to see the immigration system reformed so that the process is smoother and doesn't drag on forever. And I'd like to see the birthright nonsense stopped. I suppose I come down in favor of those that work versus those that don't.


The entire immigration system could be streamlined and take less than a week to get approval. But the government enjoys employing otherwise unemployable people and giving them meaningless jobs.

Of course, if it was streamlined, not only would it be easier for a person to get legal status, it would be easier to deny legal status to the majority of people coming in as well.

OpenID paworldandtimes June 03, 2016 10:31 AM  

The white folk have stolen stuff, left me with thousand dollar electric bills...

The point of nationalism is not that all Whites are angels. It's that all Whites are our people, including the criminal ones, who are ours to tolerate, reform, marginalize, or punish.

PA

Anonymous Orville June 03, 2016 10:31 AM  

@66 Nate, I'm not upset and fretful. I'm angry with both the instigators and the mob. And I'm fed up with BLM bullshit. We're not all n199er whisperers like you southron folk.

Blogger S1AL June 03, 2016 10:32 AM  

"I've seen a few attempts at explaining why tribalism isn't something that is natural to the white population of the US, but none of them seem to work."

That's because you aren't accounting for the size of the United States, on both a population and a geographic level. It's virtually impossible to feel any kinship with someone a thousand miles away, with whom you share no notable ancestry, and whose life experience is vastly different.

Blogger Matamoros June 03, 2016 10:32 AM  

Found this in the comment section of an article:

A big earthquake with the strength of 8.1 on the Richter scale hits the Middle East.

TWO MILLION MUSLIMS die and over a million are injured. Iraq, Iran and Syria are totally ruined and the governments don’t know where to start with providing help to rebuild.

The rest of the world is in shock

Britain is sending troops to help keep the peace.

Saudi Arabia is sending oil & monetary assistance Latin American countries are sending clothing.

New Zealand and Australia are sending sheep, cattle and food crops.

The Asian countries are sending labor to assist in rebuilding the infrastructure.

Canada is sending medical teams and supplies.

President Donald Trump, not to be outdone, is sending TWO MILLION REPLACEMENT MUSLIMS.

God Bless President Trump.

@27, I'm sure Pres. Trump could help Africa also.

Anonymous Rhetoric Man June 03, 2016 10:33 AM  

“This is a very positive development for America, because America is, and always has been, a white Anglo nation.”



No, America was always a nation founded by immigrants from Europe, who as colonizers and conquerors brought over Africans as slaves and “tamed” tribal groups.

“The fact that the political entity has been invaded and that political citizenship has been granted to anyone and everyone with a pulse merely means that the nation has submitted and been oppressed.”

No, it means that the Founding Fathers granted Congress the authority to define and expand citizenship. There is observably no oppression here.

“And that is why it does not matter what he says or does, because unlike so many of his predecessors on both sides of the political aisle, Donald Trump has aligned himself with the white American tribe.”



Those whites who are supporting Trump have generally identified with their “whiteness” as a tribe. The newcomers are tired of the PC rhetoric and are ramping up their anti-establishment crusade. These same people will vote in local and state elections for “cucks” and “elitists”.

“It is long past time for white Americans to follow the lead of the blacks, the Jews, and the Asians, and allow themselves to be guided solely by the principle: is it good for the whites? Serve the nation, not the empire.”


The problem here is that whites, in order to prove their “whiteness” to the gatekeepers of the tribe, must submit regardless of their own personal choices or motivations regarding people other than white. Why would whites in general be coerced to become "true whites" by what amounts to an elitist group?

“As for those who cry for the empire and fear it will be destroyed, yes, that is exactly what will happen. It is not longer fit for purpose.”

No one except God knows “what will happen”. The problem here is that whites who identify with white tribal identity have their own ideas as to how to “rebuild” in the event this “inevitable race war” occurs. The “new” America may not necessarily be based on the ideas touted by the New Right or neoreactionaries or the Alt Right or whatever label one wants to call this movement.

Blogger VD June 03, 2016 10:33 AM  

His (((grandchildren))) won't.

We'll see. They're not Jewish anyhow. You can't convert DNA.

Blogger Nate June 03, 2016 10:34 AM  

"We're not all n199er whisperers like you southron folk."

No. You're just a super tough guy that's scared to type "nigger" on the internet.

Blogger Alexander June 03, 2016 10:35 AM  

Why should it be streamlined? Maybe we ought to think about making the immigration system as convoluted and horrific as possible, so that only someone truly committed to coming in would even attempt it.

While, simultaneously, actually enforcing our sovereign right to police and protect our border.

The population of the US is 320 million people. Even once you discount for the negro amigos that need to be placed on the graffiti (sorry, "mural") side of the wall, you're still left with what, a quarter of a billion people.

There's no job vacancy that needs an entire bureaucracy dedicated to streamlining foreigners into the country.

Anonymous Orville June 03, 2016 10:35 AM  

Hey Nate....Nigger!

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY June 03, 2016 10:36 AM  

Teri, does Pancho the renter get gubmint assist for his little ones ? you know , like food stamps and such ? Most of them do you know. That makes it real easy to pay the light bill when you got gimmes to supplement your off the books pay.

Blogger Nate June 03, 2016 10:37 AM  

"Hey Nate....Nigger!"

so brave. thanks for this.

Blogger Matamoros June 03, 2016 10:42 AM  

@42 "don't perpetuate the lie. Yankees didn't fight for them. Yankees fought for money and power."

Then who, pray tell, brought Reconstruction and Civil Rights upon the South, Nate?

None other than the Yankees. These were part and parcel of their drive for money and power. In fact, they wanted to exterminate Southern Whites.

+++++++++++++++++++++

@30 "Your kind delivered half of Europe to the filthy Bolsheviks."

Hardly. It was America and Britain that delivered Europe to the Bolsheviks.

Hitler and the German forces sacrificed the German nation for Europe, and managed to stop them at half of Europe, while inflicting enough damage that set up the Soviet Union for ultimate failure. See John Mosier "Hitler vs Stalin 1941-1945"

Anonymous Orville June 03, 2016 10:43 AM  

Well don't cry. Was I calling you nigger, or just responding to your infantile challenge to write nigger? Why don't you instead tell all us non-Southrons how we should keep our niggers in line like you do? Or do you?

Blogger Latigo3 June 03, 2016 10:44 AM  

What is it that browns and blacks don't get? If a bunch of white men created the best country the world has ever seen, based off of the one true God. What's the problem? I'd look into it and see what they did. Bach in the day, Hispanics were labeled Caucasians on all government forms. The way it's going, I wouldn't mind that again.

Blogger Chiva June 03, 2016 10:45 AM  

"
The problem here is that whites, in order to prove their “whiteness” to the gatekeepers of the tribe, must submit regardless of their own personal choices or motivations regarding people other than white. Why would whites in general be coerced to become "true whites" by what amounts to an elitist group?"

A person does not have to submit to anything if they choose not to. The freedom of free association is a very powerful thing.

OpenID denektenorsk June 03, 2016 10:45 AM  

If I may summarize:

Black pride: OK
Gay pride: OK
Tranny pride: OK
Asian pride: OK
...
White pride: YOU HORRIBLE RACISS!

That about sum it up? To those clutching their pearls this is what you get. When everything is about identity politics people will find an identity to join.

Blogger Nate June 03, 2016 10:46 AM  

"Then who, pray tell, brought Reconstruction and Civil Rights upon the South, Nate?"

certainly. And perhaps that's what Rusty meant. But I don't think so.

Besides... look at the fruit of all that BS. Blacks are much worse off today than they were before all that. Not so much "fighting for" as "subverting".

Doesn't matter though. The fact is whites are acting like a tribe again. I say again because even though people claim its new it isn't. As Vox pointed out... its the old way.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY June 03, 2016 10:47 AM  

"Non -southrons?"
Just say yankee, nigger.











Blogger Nate June 03, 2016 10:49 AM  

" Why don't you instead tell all us non-Southrons how we should keep our niggers in line like you do? Or do you?"

I really don't give a tankers damn what some yankee city boy calls me. Nor do I care enough about you to give you advice on how to solve your problems.

Anonymous Orville June 03, 2016 10:49 AM  

But seriously, all name calling aside, I'd like to hear more details when Nate says, "The american black population is not that hard to settle down." What are you proposing?

Anonymous Orville June 03, 2016 10:50 AM  

Well, you said you had an answer, and now you don't?

Anonymous BuckyONeill June 03, 2016 10:53 AM  

" like all such identities, is the result of external pressure rather than internal conviction. "

That jibes nicely with Peter Turchin's notion that empires are born on the periphery when external threats cause similar people to coalesce.

Anonymous BuckyONeill June 03, 2016 10:59 AM  

“This is a very positive development for America, because America is, and always has been, a white Anglo nation.”



"No, America was always a nation founded by immigrants from Europe, who as colonizers and conquerors brought over Africans as slaves and “tamed” tribal groups."

---------------

The initial non-slave colonization was (by far) English in make up.

Following that, there actually was very little immigration for quite some time.

It's better to look at the population of the US as several surges rather than as a steady state change.

OpenID boardroomal June 03, 2016 11:00 AM  

@20

No Secret Christian Men are in deep deep cucked-coma...they have been for a long, long time. The SJW's successfully infiltrated and achieved majority control of the Catholic and Christian churches & institutions many many decades ago.

We all know this, but it can't be said enough, the churches have taught that masculinity is an evil that needs to be stamped out. They completely ignore the teachings of Paul when it comes to the rightful place of women in the church and its full of faggots. The men that do teach "Orthodoxy", "Faith" and "Morals" do so with a Mr. Roger's Neighborhood kind of effeminacy, walking some kind of quantum level tightrope. Those that speak in the masculine authority, (The Force that Takes) are targeted for destruction by NeoCatholics and Neocons in the Church...and of course the liberal heretics who live comfortable lives are guarded by these traitorous "Cucks". Examples, Father Corapi, Mark Driscoll, many of these guys have been taken out...either by their own stupid careless actions because they have no support structure to council them and they flail around in enemy territory like Don Quixote, until they are entrapped and screw themselves or because they are just plain targeted for Orthodoxy. In my Diocese the Orthodox priests are of course sent out to the Siberian Winterlands and the heretic priests get cushy jobs in the population centers. If you want to review case studies on documented well coordinated SJW infilitration to understand our enemy...then the Catholic Church should be the case study as it is by far, as their structure is the hardest to penetrate and convert, Best Case Studies which are excellent reads are.."Goodbye Good Men, "How Liberals Brought Corruption into the Catholic Church" by Michael S Rose (SJW controlled seminiaries) and "The Jesuits - The Society of Jesus and the Betrayal of the Roman Catholic Church" by Father Malachi Martin...Martin who was a brilliant man and writer, goes into great detail, (as he was Jesuit on the inside, a right hand man of Pope John Paul 2, and a higher up in the Vatican for years)..of how this order and terrible men blew a butt cheek of the Church with the culmination of Vatican 2. His writing is intelligent and not dry.

Anyways, When these guys finally wake up from their "Odin Sleep"...well, good luck to the adversary. For more information on what happens when Christian Males UnCuck themselves by the mass.....read the biography on St. King Ferdinand of Castille...

And of Course, The Sleeper Must Awaken

Blogger rumpole5 June 03, 2016 11:01 AM  

@"Assimilate" - "The dindus have never done this, and are almost certainly incapable of doing this.  They will always be hostile, parasitic or both in America." None of the various American nations have done much to assimilate. They probably can't - see the Jayman blog or read his posts on Unz.com. Even though Ben Franklin's writings about the problems of German immigration were spot on, I can tell you that I consider myself fully American, and I am not going back to Germany. My ancestors cleared land, built churches, drained swamps, and fought in America's wars. The same is true of the "dindus" you denigrate. Fools who argue that fellow Americans are not such are just a pasty for the same old race baiting that Democrats have always used to gain power. Instead, why don't we focus on the "rights of Englishmen" under the common law that we foreigners were fortunate to obtain when our polyglot forebearers made it here. As the Trumpsters chant: USA, USA!

Anonymous BigGayKoranBurner June 03, 2016 11:02 AM  

even white SJWs like John Scalzi suddenly begin claiming that they were white nationalists all along

Didn't his BJ arbitrage account for $5 home depot wetbacks?

that political citizenship has been granted to anyone and everyone with a pulse

Give Us Your Tired Your Poor Your ZIKA Anchor Babies Yearning for a Lifetime of Free Care
http://www.vdare.com/posts/america-to-third-world-give-me-your-tired-your-poor-your-zika-anchor-babies

It seems to me tribalism doesnt come as naturally to them

There is a (((tribe))) that has been trying to undo it.

If the cops are going to just follow orders and watch as law abiding people are assaulted by thugs and goons then shit is going to get a

You would think cops would know that didndus can't hit stuff they are aiming at across the street, Mexicans at rock throwing distances, but whitey can hit at 1000 meters.

everybody who understands what triggered Vox to write yesterdays #StandWithHate poast, raise your hand.

Was it the Red Skull quoting TRUMP?

But for me having had so very many good experiences with my African brothers and sisters.

Next Craig will complain that bisexuals are not trusted by anyone.

There are plenty of (((white))) liberals who are to blame, but there are also plenty of white liberals to blame

So the (((whites))) that made sure no textbook had a picture of a white girl with anything other than a nigger, are equally to blame as those who have not meet enough blacks in real life to know better?

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother June 03, 2016 11:03 AM  

Craig,

Your typing skills make Nate look like W Somerset Maugham.

Blogger Alexander June 03, 2016 11:04 AM  

"Sugar tits" in 3...2...

You realize of course that Nate literally gives zero fucks about what happens north of the Potomac and west of the Rio Grande? You could ship every black back to Africa tomorrow or pass a law mandating interracial marriage, and he'd just shrug and mutter about Yankees.

If there's one thing I've learned in the comments at Vox, it's that Nate really doesn't give a shit about how Yankees organize their own affairs. His treatment with you is hardly atypical.

Blogger praetorian June 03, 2016 11:10 AM  

I realize its nice to blame everything on jews but the fact is there are many parties at work. Some of them are jewish and some of them are not.

Yes. The jewish elites were necessary but not sufficient for white dispossession.

The leveling, pathological altruism that came out of the original yankee puritanism also shares a large part of the blame.

What other major contributors do you all see?

Blogger Timmy3 June 03, 2016 11:10 AM  

There are only white candidates this time around regardless. Hillary represent white liberal women. Bernie represent white commies. Trump represent the vast majority of white people.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother June 03, 2016 11:12 AM  

MUAD'IB

Anonymous mature craig June 03, 2016 11:24 AM  

In my view people shouldnt say things on the internet they would never say face to face. I recognized that a while ago

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother June 03, 2016 11:24 AM  

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Blogger praetorian June 03, 2016 11:26 AM  

In my view people shouldn't say things on the internet they would never say face to face. I recognized that a while ago

[beclowning intensifies]

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother June 03, 2016 11:28 AM  

If you want to know most of why American blacks are in the position they are in today, watch "Anarchy USA", a Birch film made in the 60's and written by G Edward Griffin and Alan Stang. Its available on Youtube. Read " It's Very Simple: The True Story of Civil Rights", also by Stang. You can also read "The Black Woman, Socialist Collateral Damage", also by Alan Stang.

Blogger Alexander June 03, 2016 11:28 AM  

@108

The problem there is we don't yet have air quotes for triple parenthesis.

Blogger Joshua Sinistar June 03, 2016 11:29 AM  

I can sympathize with Southron hate for Yankees. Those poor bastards don't seem to realize the Northerners didn't fight Lincoln's War. The North had draft riots all over. The farm boys weren't gonna let their families starve to die for Lyin' Lincoln, and the City boys didn't like the bluebelly uniforms and wanted to stay with those easy factory girls who had delusions of free love and hard to keep closed legs. Those bluebellies gettin' shot were almost all Irish men escaping the Potato famine that Lincoln's men shanghaied at NYC. They took them to a local bar and got them liquored up, then they knocked them over the head and they woke up in Lincoln's Army. Poor bastards. A lot of Eastern European guys got snookered too. They were told the Army was a steady job with good pay and benefits, and then they ended up in mass graves after the Southerners knocked them down like clay pigeons at a shooting gallery. The Confederate Army was the American Army before the War. Even the recruits grew up with rifles in their hands shooting squirrels and deer to feed their families. The Government lies about the casualties. The Confedeartes knew how many they lost cause when they didn't show up again they must be dead. The Union had foreigners who nobody remembered. There wasn't enough time to even count the dead after a battle. Thousands of bodies need to be buried quick before plagues and diseases like Anthrax break out. Our habit of having soldiers wear dog tags came from the anger and shock of relatives who never found out what happened to their men and boys during Lincoln's Damn War.
There ain't no Yankees now, and really never was. Every Northern Town had sundown laws that said any nigger in town past sundown wouldn't be there at sunrise. Abolitionists were a bunch of loons. Niggers were never loved in the North. Harriet Tubbalard's Underground Railroad went to Canada.
The TRUTH is far different from Government sponsored History. History in Government schools is written to make the Government look good. Its a paid advertisement like a commercial.

Anonymous Colonel Sanders June 03, 2016 11:36 AM  

Yessir, they are a gettin' it. Now what i dont get is people calling that obnoxios loud yankee by my name. Nothing in common.

Blogger Conan the Cimmerian June 03, 2016 11:36 AM  

@107

The Golden Path

Anonymous BGKB June 03, 2016 11:37 AM  

But for the Hispanic invaders, nothing. They can leave on their feet or in a bag, I don’t care which.

Pinochet's helicopter demonstrated how to return illegals that governments don't want back.

Been living amongst them for a long time never had a problem learned thongs too

There you have it folks Craig is a male stripper at a place Milo would go to.

Why don't you instead tell all us non-Southrons how we should keep our niggers in line like you do? Or do you?

Magic dirt gives you magic negros.

In my view people shouldnt say things on the internet they would never say face to face.

They would say it to your face, but they would bury you in the back 40 before you could run to their employer to tattle.

Anonymous Good guy awaiting June 03, 2016 11:40 AM  

Yes otherwise Sotero will use it as an excuse to declare martial law and try for more free wacos

Blogger Student in Blue June 03, 2016 11:41 AM  

@94. jOHN MOSBY
"Non -southrons?"
Just say yankee, nigger.


What, are Montanans yankees now?

Blogger Nick S June 03, 2016 11:41 AM  

What will Hillary do when Trump embraces and incorporates the 'Dangerous Donald' moniker into his campaign? She's out of her league. It looks like this is Trump's election to lose.

Blogger SciVo June 03, 2016 11:43 AM  

bob k. mando wrote:everybody who understands what triggered Vox to write yesterdays #StandWithHate poast, raise your hand.

Some vote on a European anti-hate-speech bill or something. I saw it on Breitbart... oh and look, my memory was only half-true, since it falsely edited in some democracy. It's actually a Code of Conduct from the European Commission. Isn't that lovely.

Anonymous Bo Sears June 03, 2016 11:51 AM  

The Weimar Republic (sited amongst the wreckage of the USA) came undone in San Jose last night when the mayor (Sicilian roots) and the police chief (Mexican roots) both abandoned persons leaving the Trump Rally in downtown San Jose to one-sided violence perpetrated by Clinton & Sanders supporters, with a heavy dose of anti-white hate speech and violence. Social video tapes of events are all over social media today showing sucker punches, bleeding, and wild anti-white hate. The Weimar Republic and its decline and fall were documented in the nation's tenth largest city last night.

Anonymous Orville June 03, 2016 11:56 AM  

@119 What will Hillary do when Trump embraces and incorporates the 'Dangerous Donald' moniker into his campaign? She's out of her league. It looks like this is Trump's election to lose.

Double Plus Good. She can't turn Dangerous Don into Carlos Danger, because that is too close to home since that is the nickname of Huma's beard.

Blogger Rusty Fife June 03, 2016 12:02 PM  

Mr. Rational wrote:Nate wrote:They've been enflamed... but once those enflaming them are dealt with in a few short years things can settle right down.

America is not built on a hierarchy of übermensch and üntermensch.  They need to live with their own people, under their own rule, by their own labors.  Liberia was a good start.


Rename Detroit 'New Liberia'. Genius.

Blogger dc.sunsets June 03, 2016 12:05 PM  

"Is it good for whites?" is, paradoxically, the reason many minorities support Trump.

Good for whites is inextricably connected to maintaining the conditions people LIKE about the USA. Anyone who likes the conditions that make this a better place to live than Mexico, Honduras or Somalia had better figure out FAST that those differences are entirely dependent on whites doing well. Without the smart-fraction whites running things, the USA just becomes one more place where the main pastime is stealing other guys' stuff.

Anonymous Cold Warrior June 03, 2016 12:09 PM  

The Soviet psyops

Anonymous Tone Police June 03, 2016 12:11 PM  

I hereby deputize you as an officer of the Tone Police

Anonymous Jack Amok June 03, 2016 12:15 PM  

BLM is obnoxious, but they're not the main problem. Get rid of HUD, EEOC and the Civil Rights division of the DoJ and things will "settle down" pretty quick. Blacks aren't trying to invade anywhere - they're being used as props and pawns by the agencies above. End the agencies, end the problem.

There are, however, two (maybe three) invasions that are going on.

Anonymous Crooked Hillary June 03, 2016 12:17 PM  

Ill have Bill shake down more billionaire money to pay more rioters

Anonymous fop June 03, 2016 12:20 PM  

We'll see. They're not Jewish anyhow. You can't convert DNA.

Ruth did it, and her kids were Jews.

Blogger Grandpa Lampshade June 03, 2016 12:27 PM  

I know this one black guy who is ok....
I dunno, this could turn out bad....
I don't necessarily think this America as a white nation thing is good...
Me personally I think that we should...

It doesn't matter. The time for hand wringing is over whether you like it or not. You can be in denial but the tide of events doesn't care. I'm sure little guys who were just farmers when they heard the horror stories of the approaching Red Army thought, 'I'll be fine. Why would they bother a simple little farmer like myself?' Their denial of reality got them shot after watching their daughters and wives raped to death. Vox is simply pointing out that we are at a historical turning point and no, things as they were are coming to an abrupt end. We are in for a very eventful future and it's happening in our lifetimes. Every single person will have to pick a side as the time for fence sitters is quickly coming to an end.

Blogger Gaiseric June 03, 2016 12:33 PM  

praetorian wrote:The leveling, pathological altruism that came out of the original yankee puritanism also shares a large part of the blame.

What other major contributors do you all see?

The Puritan Yankees weren't just pathological altruists. They were also incipient proto-Totalitarians. For a long time when they first arrived, they were content to keep it at more or less the community level. When they secularized, they very rapidly expanded their scope to the federal level.

Anonymous Difster June 03, 2016 12:34 PM  

Many of them already are, of course, there is a reason why Scalzi chooses to live in a lily-white Ohio town rather than among the various ethnics he professes to love so much.

He would say that lily-white came to him.

Blogger Gaiseric June 03, 2016 12:34 PM  

praetorian wrote:In my view people shouldn't say things on the internet they would never say face to face. I recognized that a while ago

[beclowning intensifies]

I'm pretty sure that the mature in mature craig is overcompensating; hoping that we won't notice that he's an 11 year old kid who's just barely discovering the alt-right and its ideas.

Blogger Gaiseric June 03, 2016 12:35 PM  

Air quotes around "Eskimos" will do it...

Blogger Culture War Draftee June 03, 2016 12:37 PM  

I live in a NAM-majority neighborhood. By-and-large, my relations with Mexican & black neighbors are good (with exceptions). That doesn't make me think we have the same political interests. I strongly doubt the Mexicans and blacks think they have the same political interests as each other. And when you get right down to it, voting is supposed to be about picking the candidate who supports your political interests the best.

If that's tribalism, sign me up. Trump 2016. MAGA!

Blogger Escoffier June 03, 2016 12:44 PM  

With respect zhukovg the correct answer to 'African Americans isn't a partitioned nation but Liberia v.2

Anonymous SumDood June 03, 2016 12:47 PM  

If the southerners hadn't imported the darkies, the yankees wouldn't have had that excuse to attack.

This racial mess isn't the yankees' fault. The blame lies on the slow-witted southerners who were too lazy to pick their own cotton and too dumb to see the inevitable consequences.

And where was Lyndon "Great Society" Johnson from again? Texas, huh? Is that in yankee territory? Oh, it's in the south. HMMMMMMM

This whole racial tarbaby is the south's fault. Stop blaming other people for your stupidity and laziness.

Anonymous Case June 03, 2016 12:52 PM  

Best blog post of the year. Let it run.

Blogger Elder Son June 03, 2016 12:54 PM  

@62

Reminds me of the meme floating around the patriot-sphere: "Do what you want, just don't touch my shit."

Guess what, they will touch your shit, and keep touching your shit, and they don't give a shit about your shit, and your rights, and your freedom. They will continue to break your leg, and they will continue to pick your pocket.

Can't we all just get along? No. We can not. They, have made that perfectly clear.

And remember, as for the Mexicans raising their Mexican flags, they are spitting in your face, and telling you, that you are in conquered territory.

But that's not spit! It's dew!

Anonymous stevee June 03, 2016 1:10 PM  

the Jewish run pjmedia.com puts out an article titled "The Alt-Right is Evil and Must Be Opposed".

A Jewish run political website declares that Celtic and Germanic americans(and other European-Americans), who were the founders of the USA, shouldn't participate in politics with their own ethnic interests in mind. Imagine that. A Jewish "conservative" website demonizing mainly Celtic/Germanic Americans who participate in politics.

Jewish americans have been working in politics as a group for 100+ years. Blacks americans have their own political groups. Mexicans now have media, politicians, and groups that work for their interests(and violent protestors. Jewish groups like pjmedia have no problem with that. But when those European Americans, specifically Cetic and Germanic americans get involved as a group, Jewish organizations want to destroy them.

Blogger Zen Trader June 03, 2016 1:13 PM  

SumDood wrote:If the southerners hadn't imported the darkies, the yankees wouldn't have had that excuse to attack.

This racial mess isn't the yankees' fault. The blame lies on the slow-witted southerners who were too lazy to pick their own cotton and too dumb to see the inevitable consequences.


I'm just not sure where to begin. Let's start with the fact that slave importation was done by a very tiny group of wealthy Southerners and Jewish slave traders. (They never tell you that one in history class) This was done because the labor was cheaper than hiring local whites. And slaves weren't just black, either, there were a lot of white slaves taken as well, especially from Ireland. That is where most of the white admixture in American Blacks actually came from, especially the odious practice of taking Irish slave women and forcing them to breed with blacks to raise their intelligence level.

Normal Southerners hated slavery and always did, as it undercut their wages and they would periodically be forced into slave hunting parties to recapture escapees. That would be like you being forced to hunt illegal immigrants in a swamp in the middle of the night.

Just as you see today, there are always wealthy people willing to sell everyone else out for a buck.

Blogger Teri June 03, 2016 1:15 PM  

@86,
Pancho is an older guy that used to work at the dairy down the road. He has a wife and I do see kids at the place. I don't see any mail coming in to them, so don't know about food stamps. He was out of work for a few months and said he just hated it.

The white tweakers, on the other hand, did get food stamps, even when in jail. No kids and no other benefits. And since the one guy had been in jail, he liked to put white power graffiti on the walls. If you're going to claim white folk are superior, then you shouldn't act like white trash.

Blogger Gunnar von Cowtown June 03, 2016 1:16 PM  

@28 "Been living amongst them for a long time never had a problem learned thongs too"

Well, that's just wonderful. What thongs did they teach you to thing? Theptember? Thraight Outta Compton? Thwing Low Thweet Chariot?

Blogger Zen Trader June 03, 2016 1:19 PM  

Gaiseric wrote:praetorian wrote:The leveling, pathological altruism that came out of the original yankee puritanism also shares a large part of the blame.

What other major contributors do you all see?


The Puritan Yankees weren't just pathological altruists. They were also incipient proto-Totalitarians. For a long time when they first arrived, they were content to keep it at more or less the community level. When they secularized, they very rapidly expanded their scope to the federal level.


Most people don't realize the Puritans were part of the same radical religious group that started the English Civil War, and actually overthrew the British Monarchy. When the Monarchy was restored, the Puritans fled to the US. From their inception they have struggled to take power. Many claim the left in the US is descended from them. If not descended, they definitely contributed to their ideology and tactics.

Blogger Elder Son June 03, 2016 1:19 PM  

@140

The Jews couldn't get away with it, without the rest of you, ALL's.

Anonymous Thales June 03, 2016 1:21 PM  

This racial mess isn't the yankees' fault. The blame lies on the slow-witted southerners who were too lazy to pick their own cotton and too dumb to see the inevitable consequences.

This argument is nonsense -- it only took 1 person to bring over 1 malaria-bearing African to spread that fatal disease all across the south, leaving white people no option to "pick their own cotton" until they invented DDT.

Blogger Zen Trader June 03, 2016 1:21 PM  

Gaiseric wrote:praetorian wrote:The leveling, pathological altruism that came out of the original yankee puritanism also shares a large part of the blame.

What other major contributors do you all see?


The Puritan Yankees weren't just pathological altruists. They were also incipient proto-Totalitarians. For a long time when they first arrived, they were content to keep it at more or less the community level. When they secularized, they very rapidly expanded their scope to the federal level.


Most people don't realize the Puritans were part of the same radical religious group that started the English Civil War, and actually overthrew the British Monarchy. When the Monarchy was restored, the Puritans fled to the US. From their inception they have struggled to take power. Many claim the left in the US is descended from them. If not descended, they definitely contributed to their ideology and tactics.

Blogger VD June 03, 2016 1:34 PM  

If you're going to claim white folk are superior, then you shouldn't act like white trash.

If you're going to claim white folk are not superior, you should try living in a place they don't run.

Blogger Elder Son June 03, 2016 1:37 PM  

And it always turns into wheels within wheels within wheels. At 57, I've been watching it for as long as I can remember. Go to any "patriot" blog, and the discussion of regaining their freedom and liberty, always turns into wheels within wheels within wheels. It's like, self-defeating mental masturbation. Yeah, We're all smarts, but can we pick up a club, and use it?

I've got maybe another 20-30 years on this planet. We'll see if the "people" go on the offensive, rather than the perpetual passive defensive.

Blogger praetorian June 03, 2016 1:40 PM  

I've got maybe another 20-30 years on this planet. We'll see if the "people" go on the offensive, rather than the perpetual passive defensive.

These things take time. Five years ago I would have guessed you wouldn't live to see it.

Now I'm pretty sure you will.

Blogger Gaiseric June 03, 2016 1:41 PM  

@140: "The South" was hardly ever a homogeneous monoculture, really. I'm not sure I buy Colin Woodard's separation of Tidewater and the Deep South as significant, but the elitist plantation owners never really had much in common with the more backwoods Southerners, especially the descendants of the Borderers and Scots-Irish. They were more geographically aligned rather than aligned by any other trait.

Blogger Elder Son June 03, 2016 1:44 PM  

Yeah. 5 years ago, I was called an agent provocateur. As if I was on the inside, trying to start some shit, at behest of those powers that be, so they have an excuse, to crack down.

Crack down? Oh, the frikkin irony.

OpenID basementhomebrewer June 03, 2016 1:55 PM  

The power structure doesn't realize that they are playing with fire here. The Milo incidents and now these trump rally's are sending a clear message.

Ordering the police to stand down and watch lawlessness take hold only to step in if the wrongthinkers try to fight back is creating a visceral reaction among middle Americans. The sleeping giant would have continued to slumber infinitely longer if the elites at least went through the motions of enforcing the law. Now, ordinary Americans are going to come to the realization that they themselves are going to have to impose law, order and justice or no one will. It's a short leap from there to asking why we need the elite's at all anymore.

Blogger praetorian June 03, 2016 1:59 PM  

A little preview of what is coming in the American South West.

Anonymous Rhetoric Man June 03, 2016 2:00 PM  

"Vox is simply pointing out that we are at a historical turning point and no, things as they were are coming to an abrupt end. We are in for a very eventful future and it's happening in our lifetimes."

Maybe, but I'm not counting on the apocalypse.

Whites aren't as cohesive or as organized as people think they are despite the apparent inroads made by Trump, especially if the Alt Right or neoreactionaries or the New Right demands that white people chose "tribe or else". No different than the machinations of the SJW's or the Left or "elitists".

Think about it, would Trump call for a "white litmus test"?

Blogger Elder Son June 03, 2016 2:05 PM  

By the way, if IT does happen, it's not going to be a spectator sport. And hiding out in a defensive hidey-hole out in the boonies with your crates of Mountain House, isn't going to save you until it is all over. Some of you are veterans, most of you are not. Your civilian training in squirrel hunting is going to amount to nothing, but most probably, an early death. And the only way "we" will come out on top of this, is to go on the offensive.

For those who can, and will, may I suggest:

http://www.maxvelocitytactical.com/

https://mountainguerrilla.wordpress.com/

https://masondixontactical.wordpress.com/

https://defensivetraininggroup.wordpress.com/

You are not going to be just up against some savages.

Anyhow. Wheels with wheels.

Anonymous Orville June 03, 2016 2:05 PM  

Probably you would only need a significant minority of whites to organize to be effective. 80/20 rule.

Blogger YIH June 03, 2016 2:14 PM  

Like other liberals, The American Cuckservative has broken the parody barrier. Latest post, first two sentences, exact quote:
Why do I bother? Because I’m a masochist.
Can't top reality.

Blogger Chris Mallory June 03, 2016 2:21 PM  

A couple squirrel hunters vs. the handful of Dindus who don't starve or die from bad water? I will take the squirrel hunters every time.

Blogger Elder Son June 03, 2016 2:22 PM  

Organizing a cluster-fuck will not be effective.

Anonymous Cheddarman June 03, 2016 2:23 PM  

Yes my leige.

Blogger Cogitans Iuvenis June 03, 2016 2:26 PM  

@118

When certain southrons are low on whisky, and cranky, everyone is a Yankee to them. Moreover I ignore because my guess is the majority of the time it's just a troll to get a rise out of everyone who isn't a souhtron. I mean, no one really wants to be called a Yankee, you know the ol' aphorism

"To foreigners, a Yankee is an American.
To Americans, a Yankee is a Northerner.
To Northerners, a Yankee is an Easterner.
To Easterners, a Yankee is a New Englander.
To New Englanders, a Yankee is a Vermonter."

Now if you really want to get a southron going, and enjoy the ensuing meltdown, call him a Yank.

Anonymous #8601 Jean Valjean June 03, 2016 2:34 PM  

#WhiteWest

Anonymous bw June 03, 2016 2:39 PM  

done by a very tiny group of wealthy Southerners and Jewish slave traders.

Correct on the latter, not so much on the former. You left out Euro Elite Globalist Corps and their ilk like C Russell, founder of Skull and Bones.
Everyone should watch the video and watch when a researcher points that out to the Globalist Lawyer bitch host on the national media in an interview. With her stammering, they couldn't get off the air fast enough.
Southern Elites participate in destroying the nation because they can make a .03 widget vs .33 cents? Damn that sounds familiar.
It is fun to look up the tombstones of the dead, slave-trading money changer Jews in the Caribbean (my understanding is that only about 5-10% of total Africans would up in US).
You can see everything from Skull and Bones to Mork from Ork (ie. Cohen symbolism).
Symbols are every bit as much a language.
Na-Noo Na-Noo to you too, Holywood...

Anonymous Smile Of The Shadow June 03, 2016 2:40 PM  

Report from the Trump Rally in San Jose last night, semi off topic but kinda on. I was there. The formal protestors were lined up early, not a lot of them maybe 50, didn't cause a problem. They parked across the street from the center, a police barricade was there.

After the event, around dusk, you start walking to your car 2-3 blocks away. Once you get a block away from the convention there is ZERO police presence. It's like they guarded trump and the area where there would obviously be no violence (the organized hippies who follow the rules) and ignored the city.

I was harassed. I was followed. I went to dinner at an upscale restaurant and someone followed me with a camera, refusing to stop taking pictures when I asked and put a hand up. People banged on the windows to try to ruin my meal with curses, insults, rude finger gestures as I watched the Golden State Warriors game and ate with friends.

Outside I saw people getting chased, people hurrying to their cars and garages. Four youths (I know that's a racist word nowdays!) followed an old lady who was there with her daughter and harassed her with the same finger gestures and the like. It was ugly.

I didn't see a single trump supporter getting rude or engaging coming out the rally. We all seemed to be business-class people, nice. There was plenty of diversity inside, all ages, all colors, all coming together because we love America. That won't get reported.

Lots of love for Milo from the people present. I asked them if they'd heard of Vox Day and they said they had not. Recommended SJWs Always Lie. Even more of a recommendation now with the headlines I saw and the mayor's comments on the violence. Insanity.

Blogger Sheila4g June 03, 2016 2:49 PM  

@138 Elder Son: Well said. No, we can't get along, and no one will be allowed to remain on the sidelines, and no one will be "left alone."

@141 Terri, as others have noted, outliers don't make good examples when everyone else here is speaking in broad, racial generalities. Sure, there are some really crappy Whites (there's a reason we've always had jails) and some decent Mexicans or even Negroes. That doesn't negate broad racial trends or the type of society and culture that their collective DNA tends to create. If Mexicans, as a whole, were capable of building a functioning, stable, rule-of-law society, they would have done so by now. Same goes for Negroes. Perhaps 1000 years of microevolution/epigenetics will alter them enough, but it's an open question and no one has that kind of time.

@101 Rumpole5: What you're proposing is a variant of Steve Sailer's "citizenism." It's close to what Trump explicitly says. The difference, however, is that implicitly everything Trump does is White oriented, because he, himself is. There's a reason the vast majority of his supporters are White. I see the usual cucks at Breitbart or Conservative Treehouse gushing over the various magic minorities who support Trump, but like Terri in this thread, they're focusing on outliers. Sure, there are some people from those races and societies who might function well in a White-run, White majority country. Things are going to suck for them, but like it or not human nature is tribal. Nationalism is tribalism writ large, and there's nothing new under the sun.

Anonymous Cheddarman June 03, 2016 2:50 PM  

Matamoros, the USSR would have fallen in the 1950s or 60s without ww2. The war gave communism a victory at the moral level that gave the system moral legitamacy.

Anonymous bw June 03, 2016 2:50 PM  

if you really want to get a southron going, and enjoy the ensuing meltdown, call him a Yank

They are in fact classical Yanks in ways they don't understand or know anything about. Low info or refusal to accept - only they know which. Maybe.

If you're going to claim white folk are not superior, you should try living in a place they don't run.

Exactly. It's not like we're talking NFL or Blacketball or the 100m.
As if genetic differences stop at the shoulder and neck area.

Blogger YIH June 03, 2016 2:53 PM  

Alexander wrote:Sympathy for the black card has been well maxed out.

1. The majority of blacks in this country now come from immigrants who chose to come here, and not the great-great-great whatever of some guy forced on the boat.

2. They're social goodwill is less than nill.

I always laugh when I hear "it's too expensive to send them back to Africa." By the time the majority of Americans are on board with shipping them anywhere, we'll just throw them in the same bus as the latins and let Mexico deal with the trans-atlantic leg of the journey.

1. I think you're wrong on that, the majority are probably still invasive wildlife species - artificially introduced, like rabbits to Australia or wild hogs to North America - with the same very negative results.
2. I too laugh at that, like it's cheap to cage them.It probably costs as much to cage one in a jail or prison for a year as it would to return one to it's natural habitat.

Anonymous Basin Boys June 03, 2016 3:01 PM  

ww2. The war gave communism a victory at the moral level that gave the system moral legitamacy.

Not to mention the physical vast amounts of real estate that FDR and his (((advisors White and Morgenthau))) literally handed them in Europe, purposefully.

Anonymous SumDood June 03, 2016 3:03 PM  

"Let's start with the fact that slave importation was done by a very tiny group of wealthy Southerners and Jewish slave traders."

So when black Africans enslave the members of rival African tribes and sell them to Arab slave merchants to be bought by white southerners, there's a cabal of jews behind it?

Kid, the reason they don't teach that in history class is that it's a paranoid delusion disseminated by imbeciles. You're as deranged as Gen. Ripper in Dr. Strangelove, only with jews as the culprit instead of commies.

And as to the alleged malaria holocaust in the American south due to slaves: says who?

The darkies are here because of the south. The darkies are uppity because of southerners like Johnson. This racial mess was the south's fault. Denial isn't going to make that fact go away.

Anonymous BGKB June 03, 2016 3:07 PM  

If you're going to claim white folk are superior, then you shouldn't act like white trash.

The poorest white trash from families earning under $20,000 a year have an average SAT of 978, while the most successful blacks from families earning over $200,000 a year have an average SAT of 981 equivalent to a rounding error away.

Awkward this data is even on the Journal of Blacks in Higher Edu http://www.jbhe.com/latest/index012209_p.html

-- it only took 1 person to bring over 1 malaria-bearing African to spread that fatal disease all across the south

It was blacks bringing hookworm that they are also resistant to that whammyed the south.
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/bodyhorrors/2011/04/25/blood-money-hookworm-economics-in-the-postbellum-south/#.V1HSKuTmqUk

A couple squirrel hunters vs. the handful of Dindus who don't starve or die from bad water?

Everyone that thinks the "golden horde" will pour out of the die verse cities to loot the suburbs, needs to realize that they are territorial and will stay in their claimed territories until they have consumed bad food/water waiting for Uncle Sam to bail them out. Gang bangers rarely hit their target across the street while I have known 8yo white girls to shoot tight shot groups.

Blogger Joshua Sinistar June 03, 2016 3:15 PM  

All you Southrons better know right now that five feet across our borders, you're a bigger Yank than me. Yeah, its infuriating but I blend better outside of here than you, and all your Southern Charm turns into ugly American fast when you're not here.
Rednecks aren't White Trash, they're the Real Americans. NASCAR is America's Real Sport boys. Niggerball is for fat turkeys stuffing their fat face with corn and corn syrup fizzy drinks while thinking they won something cause they wear a store bought Jersey with some nigger's name on it that matches a trademark on the niggers playing with their balls on TV getting a plastic embossed Brass Cup.
Little Jebbie and Mitt Romney and Bubba Clinton are THE REAL WHITE TRASH. Under those fancy pants hand sown suits are bipedal hogs feeding at Stalin the Pig's Animal Farm. They aren't elite, they are the fattest of the welfare sows. Caviar soaked crackers who have souled out and watch their wimmens get browner every year. Sickening.
You want you Confederate Flag? You want the South to Rise Again? Then stop thinking small. Why take part, when you can have it all? Form to my right. Join the Mobile Infantry. MLK will die again. General Lee day will be a National Holiday. The BUG Army is weak. You feed them with your stolen tax money. Cut off the food, and they will lose easy.
Fights are won with tactics, Battles are won with Strategy, but Wars are won with LOGISTICS. An Army travels on its stomach. An empty stomach has little fight in it.

Anonymous FP June 03, 2016 3:18 PM  

@139

Hah. Talk about hilarious. Here is the link for anyone interested.

https://pjmedia.com/trending/2016/06/03/the-alt-right-is-evil-and-must-be-opposed/?singlepage=true

"It matters not whether the beneficiaries -- or victims -- of your collectivist authoritarianism are white. What matters is whether you are a collectivist authoritarian and therefore categorically evil. That is why #NeverTrump conservatives remain indignant toward the Republican presumptive nominee for president, because he personifies a fundamentally un-American and immoral paradigm that is in essence no different than the regressive left."

and

"The American way of life is defined by philosophy. To be American in the spiritual sense is to affirm "that all men are created equal and endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights." There is nothing racial in that conviction. Anyone, from any background, can adopt it. The proper concern in immigration then is not whether immigrants share a white national origin, but whether they are American in their spiritual destination."

Anonymous Cheddarman June 03, 2016 3:19 PM  

Speaking of white tribalism I hope all of our Southron brothers have an enjoyable Confederate Memorial day today. IMO the South will be a nation again, it is only a matter of time.

Blogger Elder Son June 03, 2016 3:21 PM  

@158

You just keep thinking like that. Try to at LEAST use your imagination. When was the last time a horde of squirrels grabbed their guns and went on a massive killing spree against squirrel hunters?

What? We're white, and that is superiority, and, warrior enough?

I'm trying to help you out here. Stop fantasizing.

Blogger Gaiseric June 03, 2016 3:27 PM  

Sheila4g wrote:There's a reason the vast majority of his supporters are White. I see the usual cucks at Breitbart or Conservative Treehouse gushing over the various magic minorities who support Trump, but like Terri in this thread, they're focusing on outliers. Sure, there are some people from those races and societies who might function well in a White-run, White majority country. Things are going to suck for them, but like it or not human nature is tribal. Nationalism is tribalism writ large, and there's nothing new under the sun.
No, it won't suck for them, and they know it. Which is why more ethnic minorities will vote Republican than at any time since Reagan. Those are the smarter, more responsible ones; the ones that we can tolerate as neighbors.

Blogger Gaiseric June 03, 2016 3:29 PM  

Sheila4g wrote:There's a reason the vast majority of his supporters are White. I see the usual cucks at Breitbart or Conservative Treehouse gushing over the various magic minorities who support Trump, but like Terri in this thread, they're focusing on outliers. Sure, there are some people from those races and societies who might function well in a White-run, White majority country. Things are going to suck for them, but like it or not human nature is tribal. Nationalism is tribalism writ large, and there's nothing new under the sun.
No, it won't suck for them, and they know it. Which is why more ethnic minorities will vote Republican than at any time since Reagan. Those are the smarter, more responsible ones; the ones that we can tolerate as neighbors.

Blogger Josh June 03, 2016 3:38 PM  


Speaking of white tribalism I hope all of our Southron brothers have an enjoyable Confederate Memorial day today. IMO the South will be a nation again, it is only a matter of time.


Thank you brother.

Deo Vindice.

Blogger Sheila4g June 03, 2016 3:42 PM  

@177 Gaiseric: Sorry what I wrote wasn't clear. As you note, it would most definitely not suck for them to live as a small and tolerated minority in a White country. My point was, per Vox's prediction and overall trends, that they will not be permitted to remain as a tolerated minority the way things are going - even those who are willing and able to abide by White behavioral norms and accept a "tolerated visitor" status. When things go fully tribal, as trite as it sounds, your skin color is your uniform. People aren't going to interview everyone individually; decisions are going to be made racial-wide.

Blogger Gaiseric June 03, 2016 3:48 PM  

Oh. Well, yeah—the purging will probably suck, unless they're known commodities, old neighbors, family friends, pillars of the community, etc. Like many Mexicans in Texas, for example, who've lived in the territory since before the Texas Revolution and fought against Santa Ana, not for him. But supporting Trump is supporting the hope that there doesn't need to be a full tribal warfare option to save America.

They guys in San Jose carrying Mexican flags and attacking every white person that they see in the general vicinity of a Trump rally, on the other hand, are the stupid ones; who welcome full tribal warfare based on the bizarre belief that they can win.

Blogger Gaiseric June 03, 2016 3:49 PM  

And, of course, the purge won't last forever.

Blogger Fubar June 03, 2016 4:08 PM  

As someone who attended the Trump rally in San Jose, I would have one minor quibble with the article. Any attempt to align Trump strictly with the white tribe is incorrect. I went expecting it to be so, but to my (pleasant) surprise, found myself surrounded by latinos, asians and a few chinese, all proudly and unabashedly supporting Trump. I'd estimate perhaps 30% of the crowd as being non-white. Patriots all and all roared "Build the Wall", including the nice young lady carrying a sign "Millenial Latina for Trump". And I was present at the riot and watched as mexican thugs in black terrorized a car carrying a Chinese family as the police calmly stood by.

These people may not be of the white European tribe, but I'm proud to have them in the American tribe.

Anonymous TheVillageIdiot Ret. June 03, 2016 4:15 PM  

What percentage of African slaves delivered to the New World were delivered to British North America?
or as i like to call them,the lucky ones.
link thingy
Slave trade routes from Africa to the Americas during the period 1650-1860 are shown. There were additional routes to the New World from  Mozambique, Zanzibar and Madagascar on the east side of Africa. Most of the slaves from the east side were brought to Portuguese controlled Salvador in the state of Bahia, Brazil, along with many other slaves from Angola. Brazil received more slaves from Africa than any other country in the New World. The 500,000 African slaves sent to America represents 10% of the number sent to Brazil, and 11% of the number sent to the West Indies. According to the estimates of Hugh Thomas (12), a total of 11,128,000 African slaves were delivered live to the New World, including 500,000 to British North America; therefore, only 4.5% of the total African slaves delivered to the New World were delivered to British North America. Also from Hugh Thomas, the major sources of the 13 million slaves departing from Africa (see slave ports map, above) were Congo/Angola (3 million), Gold Coast (1.5 million), Slave Coast (2 million), Benin to Calabar* (2 million), and Mozambique/Madagascar on the east coast of Africa (1 million).
 

"In 1860 only a small minority of whites owned slaves. According to the U.S. census report for that last year before the Civil War, there were nearly 27 million whites in the country. Some eight million of them lived in the slaveholding states.

The census also determined that there were fewer than 385,000 individuals who owned slaves (1). Even if all slaveholders had been white, that would amount to only 1.4 percent of whites in the country owning one or more slave.....According to federal census reports, on June 1, 1860 there were nearly 4.5 million Negroes in the United States, with fewer than four million of them living in the southern slaveholding states. Of the blacks residing in the South, 261,988 were not slaves. Of this number, 10,689 lived in New Orleans. The country's leading African American historian, Duke University professor John Hope Franklin, records that in New Orleans over 3,000 free Negroes owned slaves, or 28 percent of the free Negroes in that city."
-By Robert M. Grooms, © 1997 COURTESY OF THE BARNES REVIEW

In America
25%+ of free blacks owned slaves
35%+ of Indians owned slaves
50%+ of Jews owned slaves
1.4% of whites owned slaves
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Is there anyone here who believes that there are any Africans, living in any of the second or third world economic shit holes of the southern hemisphere,who are crying for any Africans lucky enough to live in any of the first world civilized white Christian societies of the northern hemisphere and their first world economies, especially America.
DannyR

Anonymous Mr. Rational June 03, 2016 4:26 PM  

rumpole5 wrote:I can tell you that I consider myself fully American, and I am not going back to Germany. My ancestors cleared land, built churches, drained swamps, and fought in America's wars.
As did my German ancestors (some were English).  They were teachers, craftsmen and missionaries to the indians, among other things.  I have boxes of tools, all well over a century old, for plying the trades of my predecessors.

The same is true of the "dindus" you denigrate.
That is where you're wrong.  Detroit is falling down in no small part because the dindu cannot understand how to use a hammer and a roofing nail to install a replacement shingle, nor understand the consequences of failing to do so.  I have seen middle-aged Black men unable to read the video instructions on an ATM.  They are literally that dumb (and useless).

Blogger Harold June 03, 2016 5:02 PM  

Whites don't have a problem forming tribes. It's just that in the past, white tribes have had other names. Scots, English, Welsh, French, Irish, Germans, Italians... A lot of whites have trouble telling Koreans, Japanese, and Chinese apart. I don't; I've been around enough of each that I normally call it correctly. They ALWAYS do. But, as a white I cannot tell by a glance who's Irish, English, Scottish, Welsh or Cornish. But in Great Britain- they can. At a glance. I now live in an area withy a lot of Italian ancestry. honestly, until I moved here, I really didn't know what people meant when they talked of a Roman nose. Now I do. Some people of Italian descent don't have one, but if someone has a Roman nose, they have ancestors from Italy. Most any white in America who can trace their ancestry back to before the founding is a mixture of European tribes. Mine include all the British ones, Germany, Netherlands, and French Huguenot. My kids have Bohemian thrown in, which is German to some- but not to Bohemians. Our founding documents are pretty clear that American is an identity that can be adopted by allegiance to the ideals presented in the founding documents. And it worked fairly until the government, mostly Democrat led, stepped in and started bean counting by race, and any disparity was declared to be a result of discrimination and not lifestyle choices or natural inclination or ability.

Pushing whites into uniting as a white tribe is likely to be very bad for everyone else. And it seems that that's what the racial bean counters want to do.

Hmmm... I wonder. Could that have been the secret behind the scenes Democrat plan all along? Unite the whites by actively discriminating against them? After all, they were the party of Jim Crow and racial segregation...

Anonymous BGKB June 03, 2016 5:05 PM  

@175When was the last time a horde of squirrels grabbed their guns and went on a massive killing spree against squirrel hunters?

"Pa should we tell them there niggers that their high points maximum range is much shorter than the distance we can hit beer cans with? No son then they might try taking cover"

I have seen middle-aged Black men unable to read the video instructions on an ATM. They are literally that dumb (and useless).

Even I would have thought one or two would be smart enough to be offended by my "White Privilege Is Evolution That's Why Asians Have It Also" T-Shirt

Blogger John Wright June 03, 2016 5:27 PM  

@105
I blame Adam. Damn him for letting a girl talk him into changing his religion.

I think the growth a Marxism and its related pathologies had much to do with it, as well as the fact that a worldly and political philosophy like the Enlightenment thinking of the Founding Fathers has no defense against a religious worldview, even of an ersatz yet lunatic religion like Marxism, Secularism, or whatever it is calling itself these days. A Marxist will die for his high and noble cause of installing world utopia, or whatever the heck the pinheads are always yammering on about, but a worldly man will not die for the right to property.

The idea of a Federal Republic works well enough among landowning Christians, or tradesmen, or professionals.

Sadly, the average medieval village in rural England, from before the age of absolute monarchs, enjoyed more liberty than we in America, and far more than in modern Europe.

Blogger Joshua Sinistar June 03, 2016 5:59 PM  

Our Constitution was written for White Christian Men and is unusable for any other. All the egalitarians have a Cliffs Notes understanding of our Republic. All Men are Created Equal had zero to do with non-Whites and especially niggers. The very thought would have been met with hilarious laughter at The First Continental Congress.
That phrase is NOT in the US Constitution but The Declaration of Independence. Its a swipe at The King and his claim of "blue blood" and superior breeding as a separate and forever above class to his "commoner" peoples. Its has NOTHING to do with race and everything to do with the Ironclad Class System in England where Mad King George III would not even recognize the Rights of the Colonials to bring complaints to him directly as they were seen as a separate and inferior class to His Majesty.
Facts are usually the opposite of popular opinion.

Blogger BunE22 June 03, 2016 6:35 PM  

@163 "Everyone should watch the video and watch when a researcher points that out to the Globalist Lawyer bitch host on the national media in an interview. With her stammering, they couldn't get off the air fast enough."

How would I find this video, do you have names or the name of the show? Thanks.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY June 03, 2016 7:05 PM  

137. SumDood
You and Tom Kratman should be pen pals. He buys into that silly shit you just posted also.

Blogger JimR June 03, 2016 7:17 PM  

"If you're going to claim white folk are not superior, you should try living in a place they don't run."

That's gonna leave a mark...

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY June 03, 2016 7:34 PM  

"I don't see any mail coming in to them, so don't know about food stamps. He was out of work for a few months and said he just hated it."
They got these things called SNAP/EBT/WIC. Betcha Pancho,the wife Rosarita and the ninos are onone of them if not all.
Most dairy operations down here provide housing on site for workers and there family, And they are usually paid under the table. Pro tip, don't rent to tweakers. At least check their teeth before you rent to a suspect honkie, like you would before you buy a horse.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 03, 2016 7:57 PM  

Gaiseric wrote:the stupid ones; who welcome full tribal warfare based on the bizarre belief that they can win.

so...
How's that working out for them so far?

Blogger GFR June 03, 2016 8:13 PM  

@53 "Similarly, Muslim asylum seekers are also so profoundly shortsighted that instead of laying low and feigning interest in western values in order to vastly increase their numbers, can't see past the next piece of ass. It's like the "squirrel" gag from the movie Up."
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Any ideas on the best way to shout: "Squirrel" at a muslim?

Anonymous andon June 03, 2016 8:13 PM  

61. Blogger Nate June 03, 2016 10:02 AM

In the mid 2000s I watched a UFC fight in memphis... some undefeated mexican dude against an american champion. The place was packed with mexicans waving mexican flags. The american destroyed the mexican and the little brown fellow in front of me literally cried.


same thing goes on in boxing. whenever a brown one from down south fights a mayweather or the filipino

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY June 03, 2016 8:20 PM  

What, are Montanans yankees now?
Yes. How many moon crickets do you have up there ?
You can't handle a critter rare as a queer bull in that neck of the the woods ?
Nigger,please.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother June 03, 2016 8:27 PM  

Must post "where the white women at" Blazing Saddles meme...

DAMN YOU HEAVING BOSOMS OF LIBERTY

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY June 03, 2016 8:31 PM  

"-- it only took 1 person to bring over 1 malaria-bearing African to spread that fatal disease all across the south"
I thought that the Ubangi's had sickle cell anemia that made them resistant to "miasma ".

Anonymous andon June 03, 2016 8:31 PM  

90. Latigo3 June 03, 2016 10:44 AM

What is it that browns and blacks don't get? If a bunch of white men created the best country the world has ever seen, based off of the one true God. What's the problem? I'd look into it and see what they did.


exactly, what central and south America and Africa need to do is LEARN from the successful countries. instead the ones down south seem to think they have the right to sneak in ahead of legal immigrants.

Bach in the day, Hispanics were labeled Caucasians on all government forms. The way it's going, I wouldn't mind that again.

they only label them as white when its beneficial to them. for example of the Texas 10 most wanted fugitives, last I checked 9 of 10 were listed as "white" but their last names were gomez, ramirez, gonzalez, etc etc. but if they're applying for govt assistance or maybe a job or higher education im sure there's a box to check for hispanic.

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