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Friday, July 15, 2016

Coup attempt in Turkey underway

Don't know any more than that, except that the Turkish internet has largely gone dark.

Confirmed: Twitter, Facebook & YouTube blocked in #Turkey at 10:50PM after apparent military uprising in #Turkey 

Sounds like the military has had enough of Erdogan's Islamist rule. Remember, in Turkey, the secular military tends to be the force for stability, while the elected officials tend to be the more Islamic radicals.

With all due respect to Turkey, it is France that could most benefit from a military coup right now.

UPDATE: TURKEY ARMED FORCES SAY THEY'VE TAKEN CONTROL OF COUNTRY - Zerohedge

UPDATE 2: Sky News reports that the Turkish military coup was successful.
The Turkish military claims to have taken over after Turkey's PM said a military faction had been involved in an attempted coup.

In a statement read out on Turkey's NTV television, the army said: "Power in the country has been seized in its entirety."

According to Sky sources, state TV has been stormed by the military and staff have been asked to hand in their mobile phones. 
I find it interesting that people think Putin is behind this. But this is hardly the first military coup in Turkey; they tend to stage one whenever the elected politicians start getting out of hand again.

UPDATE 3: According to the resident Turk, Erdogan is running and seeking asylum.
Erdogan is running away. He was reported to be fleeing to the airport that was bombed recently. Military is declaring curfews nationally through the state TV.
UPDATE 4: Things aren't looking so good for the coup leaders. The Navy and the 3rd Army commanders have both come out as loyalists and the Islamists are taking to the streets as per Erdogan's call. The mosques are calling for jihad in support of Erdogan. It's usually fatal to strike at the king and miss.

UPDATE 5: No wonder the coup is in the process of failing, assuming it hasn't already. "Turkish military’s chief legal counsel Muharrem Kose identified as coup plotter." A lawyer-led military coup? That has to be a first. "We've filed all the documents correctly, there's no way this can fail!" 

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Anonymous Bz July 15, 2016 4:12 PM  

Next year in Constantinople, my friends.

Blogger Nate July 15, 2016 4:13 PM  

roll tide.

Blogger Bob Loblaw July 15, 2016 4:14 PM  

This is the army's traditional role in Turkey, but the impression I got was they'd been neutered and infiltrated by Erdogan supporters.

Blogger Robert Divinity July 15, 2016 4:17 PM  

The Turkish military has a constitutional obligation to oust lawless leaders, which generally means Erdogan-type Islamists. Watch for Merkel and Hollande's responses. If they differ--good times, good times.

Blogger Lazarus July 15, 2016 4:17 PM  

more at ZH

Blogger GFR July 15, 2016 4:18 PM  

Islam, this absurd theology of an immoral bedouin, is a rotting corpse that is destroying our lives..

OpenID basementhomebrewer July 15, 2016 4:18 PM  

Obama and Erdogan are bffs. Hopefully our military leaders are smart enough to stay out of it and ignore any foolish orders coming from the white house.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents July 15, 2016 4:20 PM  

Under the old constitution of Ataturk the Army was entrusted with defence of the nation from all enemies, including domestic. It was routine for the Army to carry out a coup d’etat when sufficient senior generals felt the civilians were screwing up too much.

That role was officially reduced some years back, about the same time that government control over the mosques and the Friday sermon went away. Erdogan has been purging top officers out of the Army for years and putting his own in place. Who is actually in charge of the Turkish Army now is an open question.

This could be a good thing. Maybe.

Blogger haus frau July 15, 2016 4:21 PM  

So I guess turkey's eu application is on ice for now?

Anonymous ZhukovG July 15, 2016 4:31 PM  

Hmmm, a couple weeks ago Erdogan was kissing Putin's ass. Now this happens.

Perhaps Putin didn't feel that Erdogan's apology was sincere enough.

Blogger Sun Xhu July 15, 2016 4:32 PM  

@9 It was going to be on "Ice Cream", but their delivery got delayed in Nice.

Blogger Brian S July 15, 2016 4:34 PM  

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Blogger Brian S July 15, 2016 4:35 PM  

Turkey has nukes, best hope it isn't being hijacked by extremists

Blogger Aeoli Pera July 15, 2016 4:36 PM  

I figure the situation must have been desperate what with the globe being a powderkeg right now. Either that or outside shenanigans are afoot.

I wonder who's salivating over the internet kill switch in America right now.

Blogger Aeoli Pera July 15, 2016 4:39 PM  

Looks like they have a lot of practice. Probably not a big deal then.

Anonymous ZhukovG July 15, 2016 4:40 PM  

@13 When, pray tell, did Turkey develop nuclear weapons?

Blogger residentMoron July 15, 2016 4:41 PM  

You can buy, rather than develop. However, I doubt they do have them.

In any case, I hope the army wins this one. Erdogan is a dangerous fool.

Blogger Harold July 15, 2016 4:42 PM  

Help or hurt Trump? I see another few percent bump in his polls.

Blogger Bob Loblaw July 15, 2016 4:43 PM  

No, Turkey does not have nukes. There are US nukes in Turkey, but the Turks can't arm them.

Anonymous andon July 15, 2016 4:44 PM  

fck yeah. I hope they find him hanging upside down

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents July 15, 2016 4:44 PM  

One online source stated that the Turkish police had all been summoned to Ankara. Yeah, the logistics of that should work, centralized control or not. It’s a long way from Sinope to Ankara.

But it does point to a definite coup d’etat in the works, because that would enable loyalty tests / oaths. There are checkpoints set up in Istanbul and Ankara for sure, with lists of people for soldiers to detain. Who’s on those lists, I wonder?

Blogger Kona Commuter July 15, 2016 4:44 PM  

If I were the Russians I'd have communicated with the Turkish Military and said "Really? You really want some of this?" and the Turkish Military would say "I quite like my friends. I'd die for my friends and family. I don't want my friends and family to die needlessly"

Blogger Robert Divinity July 15, 2016 4:45 PM  

@3:

You are right. Turkey's EU membership application was made contingent on eliminating the military supremacy clause. Apparently the Turkish military has given up on EU membership and grown tired of Erdogan's Islamism.

Merkel and Obama will be pissed.

Blogger Josh July 15, 2016 4:48 PM  

Gulenists?

Anonymous Crude July 15, 2016 4:50 PM  

How is this going to impact the refugee situation?

Blogger Johann Pearce July 15, 2016 4:50 PM  

One wonders what effect the coup could have on the Syrian war, if it succeeds. A new, secular Turkish government could take the fight to ISIS.

Anonymous andon July 15, 2016 4:50 PM  

maybe they got tired of their country being invaded by "migrants" too

Anonymous ZhukovG July 15, 2016 4:51 PM  

If the Generals win and start cozying up to Russia, we will know that Putin checkmated us yet again.

Anonymous Jack Amok July 15, 2016 4:51 PM  

I guess they figured they needed to have another one before they forgot how.

Blogger Brian S July 15, 2016 4:54 PM  

Bob Loblaw wrote:No, Turkey does not have nukes. There are US nukes in Turkey, but the Turks can't arm them. You don't have to arm them for them to be dangerous, and there's 60-70 warheads there.

Blogger Bob Loblaw July 15, 2016 4:54 PM  

Why now? Is the military unhappy with Erdogan's moves in Syria, are they upset about his attempts to cozy up with the Russians, has this been in the works for ages but only now came to fruition, did Erdogan try to replace the wrong military officer?

Blogger Bob Loblaw July 15, 2016 4:55 PM  

You don't have to arm them for them to be dangerous...

You're only gonna be able to kill a handful of people by dropping an unarmed nuke on them. It would be pretty similar to the cement bombs we used in Iraq.

Blogger Johann Pearce July 15, 2016 4:56 PM  

I have also heard speculation that this a fake coup by Erdogan in an effort to seize power.

Anonymous andon July 15, 2016 5:00 PM  

28. Anonymous ZhukovG July 15, 2016 4:51 PM
If the Generals win and start cozying up to Russia, we will know that Putin checkmated us yet again.


us? current U.S. admin doesn't represent me, doesn't speak for me

I'd rather have Putin

Blogger tz July 15, 2016 5:02 PM  

Which border will they be ejecting the refugees and will the EU demand a refund?

Blogger Brian S July 15, 2016 5:02 PM  

Bob Loblaw wrote:You don't have to arm them for them to be dangerous...

You're only gonna be able to kill a handful of people by dropping an unarmed nuke on them. It would be pretty similar to the cement bombs we used in Iraq.


Dirty bomb? The fact the US has nukes parked there kinda forces them to into doing something about this situation if the people taking over are hostile doesn't it?

Blogger Bob Loblaw July 15, 2016 5:08 PM  

Dirty bombs are more of a psychological weapon than anything else - in terms of killing power they're not even as good as cordite.

Blogger Arthur Isaac July 15, 2016 5:08 PM  

Prime Minister Yildirim is coming off a bit like Baghdad Bob at this point. Where is Erdogan? Who is controlling the State Media? It doesn't look like him.

Blogger Tommy Hass July 15, 2016 5:09 PM  

"Next year in Constantinople, my friends."

Your head will be rotting on a pike. Bank on it.

Blogger Tommy Hass July 15, 2016 5:11 PM  

Erdogan is running away. He was reported to be fleeing to the airport that was bombed recently. Military is declaring curfews nationally through the state TV.

Blogger Ingot9455 July 15, 2016 5:11 PM  

Hey, the long-awaited return of Tommy Hass! Where ya been?

Blogger Brian S July 15, 2016 5:12 PM  

@39: Hope so!

@Bob, Not claiming to be an expert, just expressing concern, thanks for the feedback. Wouldn't be too surprised to hear the effectiveness of dirty bombs is overblown, much like the danger of guns on airplanes.

Blogger Ingot9455 July 15, 2016 5:13 PM  

(If Trump keeps delaying his news conferences a day because of big news events, it could be a few weeks before we get to see Pence and he up on the big stage together.)

Blogger tz July 15, 2016 5:14 PM  

The problem is the Turks are Muslim, wanted Sharia Law and liked what Erdogan was doing (except the Kurds, but we'll see what the military does about them).

How would we feel if we elect Trump in a landslide and he was similarly overthrown?

We live in a 4GW world - use the matrix, physical victory, mental unsure, morally counterproductive.

How will the Muslims across the West "celebrate" this event? Maybe by driving trucks through throngs of civilians?

Where's WSL when we need him?

Chaos is something we don't need more of.

Blogger Tommy Hass July 15, 2016 5:14 PM  

"maybe they got tired of their country being invaded by "migrants" too"

Erdogan stated intentions that Syrian refugees would be given Turkish citizenships and the vote. KEK.

Bet the terror attack in Nice also pissed them off.

Raqqa is going to be eradicated within 6 months.

Blogger Lazarus July 15, 2016 5:14 PM  

Johann Pearce wrote:I have also heard speculation that this a fake coup by Erdogan in an effort to seize power.

I would not be surprised.

From May 6th:




Turkey's prime minister just resigned. That's a dangerous sign for Turkish democracy.

Updated by Zack Beauchamp on May 6, 2016, 10:50 a.m. ET @zackbeauchamp zack@vox.com
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Ahmet Davutoǧlu. Win McNamee/Getty Images

Usually it takes a scandal or a massive policy blunder to force a sitting head of government to resign. But Thursday morning, Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu announced that he'd be leaving his job on May 22 — without a scandal or policy blunder in sight.

Instead, Turkey's president, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, forced Davutoğlu from his job. On paper, this is strange: Turkey has a parliamentary democracy, so the prime minister, not the president, is supposed to actually run the government. But it's long been clear that Erdoğan has actually been calling the shots, with Davutoğlu serving mostly as his sidekick.

This is a grim development for Turkish democracy. Davutoğlu was forced out because he couldn't get on board with Erdoğan's plan to revamp the Turkish constitution to concentrate a dangerous amount of power in the office of the presidency. Davutoğlu's ouster is a clear signal that Erdoğan is about to proceed with his plans to seize power.

The scariest part? He might actually succeed.


Its wait and see time.

Anonymous ZhukovG July 15, 2016 5:14 PM  

Erdogan was supposedly vacationing on the southern coast of Turkey. Sounds like he'll be looking for a way out of the country. Maybe he'll wash up on a Greek beach in a week or two.

Blogger Whisker biscuit July 15, 2016 5:14 PM  

If Russia happened to attack Turkey from behind, would Greece help?

I know. I know.

Blogger Tommy Hass July 15, 2016 5:16 PM  

"Hey, the long-awaited return of Tommy Hass! Where ya been?"

Not reading altright sites because it's a huge time sink. :D

Fellas, we will get to see Erdogan swing from the gallows. My hands are shaking with anticipation.

And btw, Erdogan didn't get reelected, he lost in June last year remember?

Anonymous the woodman July 15, 2016 5:17 PM  

Is it still illegal for Germans to make fun of Erdogan?

Blogger Josh July 15, 2016 5:18 PM  

Hi tommy, how have you been?

Blogger Cicatrizatic July 15, 2016 5:19 PM  

Over the last 2 years, Erdogan has transformed the ceremonial role of President into a near dictatorship, without constitutional amendment.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan July 15, 2016 5:19 PM  

A military coup is needed in Germany, France and Sweden and if the lunatics in DC can't be reigned in a time out for them as well

Blogger Arthur Isaac July 15, 2016 5:19 PM  

Democracy is a transitional form of government.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents July 15, 2016 5:19 PM  

Now we know what it takes to get Tommy Hass to surface - a coup d’etat in Turkey. Hmm. Posting from inside Turkey?

Anonymous Jack Amok July 15, 2016 5:20 PM  

Bob Loblaw, I'm glad you are confident those nukes can't be armed by someone who happened to get physical control of them. Myself, I'm not so sure technology is that foolproof.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents July 15, 2016 5:20 PM  

Now we know what it takes to get Tommy Hass to surface - a coup d’etat in Turkey. Hmm. Posting from inside Turkey?

Blogger Tommy Hass July 15, 2016 5:22 PM  

"Is it still illegal for Germans to make fun of Erdogan?"

Lol, if you call him a child molestor, or Goatfucker, yes. Germany is european and europeans don't do the first amendment.

I've been OK guys. :^) And yes, I was interested what you guys would be saying about this.

Anonymous Baldwin of Flanders July 15, 2016 5:22 PM  

'"Next year in Constantinople, my friends."

Your head will be rotting on a pike. Bank on it.'

If I were to bank on the possibility of heads rotting on pikes outside Constantinople sometime in the future, I imagine that the heads will be wearing fezzes and have ridiculous mustaches.

Blogger S1AL July 15, 2016 5:23 PM  

Yeah, I'd be willing to bet that there's an element of "we do NOT want to be associated with Nice when the purge starts" going on here.

Blogger Tommy Hass July 15, 2016 5:23 PM  

Btw, no I'm posting from Germany still.

Anonymous Cheddarman July 15, 2016 5:24 PM  

Welcome back, Tommy. your my 2nd favorite Turk after a female friend with big hooters and looks like a slav.

Blogger Cicatrizatic July 15, 2016 5:24 PM  

Russia foreign affairs in the last 2 years:

Annexation of Crimea
Now western-allied Ukraine descends into chaos
Steers Syria to near victory against its rebels
Erdogan's Islamist government overthrown

Is this what it's like to win at foreign policy?

Anonymous Eduardo July 15, 2016 5:24 PM  

Well, Turkey's union of Imans wanted to ban Pokemon GO.

So the nerds in the military... You know.

Blogger Tommy Hass July 15, 2016 5:25 PM  

"If I were to bank on the possibility of heads rotting on pikes outside Constantinople sometime in the future, I imagine that the heads will be wearing fezzes and have ridiculous mustaches."

You're not strong enough. Nobody wants you there. We have allies, etc. Turks are not stupid enough to piss off EVERYBODY like Iraq has either.

Blogger Ben Cohen July 15, 2016 5:27 PM  

We live in interesting times.

Anonymous Discard July 15, 2016 5:28 PM  

Tommy Hass: Been wondering where you were. Welcome back. I may not agree with you, but you put your case forward like a man, even when you're getting dog piled.

Blogger Doug Cranmer July 15, 2016 5:31 PM  

Split one apart, carefully, and you couldn't have the better makings of a dirty bomb.

Anonymous jm July 15, 2016 5:32 PM  

This must be why the military families stationed in Turkey were sent home back in March.

Blogger Doom July 15, 2016 5:33 PM  

Putin? I almost wish. Thing is, it's one of two (three depending on how you look at it) powers. Turkish, start to stop. Not exactly a first. I actually am surprised they didn't do this some time back. Probably waiting, if it is just them, for the right time. If it is a joint thing, might have been waiting for a cue. Waiting is the hardest thing, and yet it's difficult to argue with success. The other option (or two) would be a European thing, or a NATO thing. Though I don't think it would be required to join the EU, some might see it as a way to block arguments against that. And with Britain out (or so they say, we hear), and others potentially clamoring to get out too... those who remain might be more for Turkey joining? But with a caveat?

I didn't foresee this, other than that I had thought it would have happened before now, like when Erdogan really started putting the screws to the population. Hmm... I wonder if Merkel is going to go ahead with her prosecutions against those Germans who besmirched Erdogan? *grins* Her turn might be coming too.

Anonymous ZhukovG July 15, 2016 5:34 PM  

The Turks are not going to attack the US forces at Incirlik AB. Erdogan was the crazy one, not the Turkish General Staff.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 15, 2016 5:35 PM  

Tommy Hass wrote:You're not strong enough. Nobody wants you there.

I imagine we'll see about the strength thing sooner or later.
We have allies, etc. Turks are not stupid enough to piss off EVERYBODY like Iraq has either.
So, you're saying Turks aren't Arabs? Whod'a thought?

Fucking Arabs.....

Blogger Kyle Searle July 15, 2016 5:39 PM  

NBC reports Erdogan requesting asylum in Germany.

https://twitter.com/tancredipalmeri/status/754066848078000128

Dear god, if he's allowed in...

Anonymous ZhukovG July 15, 2016 5:43 PM  

@73 Tommy Hass might hunt him down and beat the hell out of him.

Anonymous Jaypo July 15, 2016 5:44 PM  

"Is it still illegal for Germans to make fun of Erdogan?"

Lol, if you call him a child molestor, or Goatfucker, yes. Germany is european and europeans don't do the first amendment.


This poem was written by Boris Johnson the new Foreign Secretary for the UK and won The Spectator’s President Erdogan Offensive Poetry competition back in May 2016:

There was a young fellow from Ankara
Who was a terrific wankerer
Till he sowed his wild oats
With the help of a goat
But he didn’t even stop to thankera.

The Brits aren't really European.

Blogger Bob Loblaw July 15, 2016 5:48 PM  

The Brits aren't really European.

They don't seem to have retained the art of poetry, either. Though to be fair, Johnson was raised in the US.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents July 15, 2016 5:50 PM  

Krauts should totally take Erdogan in, give him a nice bunk in one of the rapefugee centers with all the Syrians.

Tommy Hass might hunt him down and beat the hell out of him.

I’d hold his coat and video it just for the LOLZ.

Blogger VD July 15, 2016 5:54 PM  

I've been OK guys. :^) And yes, I was interested what you guys would be saying about this.

Glad to hear it. We're pro-military; I've long considered the Turkish military to be the sanest organization in the country. Turkey may now be better governed than the USA or most of the countries in Western Europe.

Anonymous Jaypo July 15, 2016 5:57 PM  

They don't seem to have retained the art of poetry, either
Bob the rules did say it had to be a Limerick...

Anonymous Steve July 15, 2016 5:58 PM  

Erdogan's probably not a goatfucker. He looks more like the kind of guy who'd molest a pelican.

Blogger YIH July 15, 2016 6:01 PM  

Kona Commuter wrote:If I were the Russians I'd have communicated with the Turkish Military and said "Really? You really want some of this?" and the Turkish Military would say "I quite like my friends. I'd die for my friends and family. I don't want my friends and family to die needlessly"
I bet that's pretty much how it went down, after that Mig ambush (that's what it was, the jet was in Turkish airspace for all of a few seconds at most). That, plus the imminvasion of rapeugees being seen by Russia as destabilizing to western Europe (and seeing how Erdogan was running a big scam over it) made the Russians to quietly pass the message on the the Turkish military ''get your shit together, so we don't have to''.

Blogger Tommy Hass July 15, 2016 6:02 PM  

I would enjoy kicking the crap out of him.

Now this turd told people to take to the streets, even though the military ordered people to stay in. People are going to die.

Anonymous John Steed July 15, 2016 6:04 PM  

GO PUTINNNNN!

Anonymous Jaypo July 15, 2016 6:05 PM  

This was the limerick from the guy who started the contest.

Recep Erdogan is the Turk’ll
Never tire of rim-jobs from his circle
Yet his chief-est delight
(Now Khilafa’s in sight)
Are the felchings he gets from Frau Merkel

Which one do you prefer? For pure filth the first is best but Boris's is better because he is now a politician on the world stage. He also said of Hillary Clinton that "She's got dyed blonde hair and pouty lips, and a steely blue stare, like a sadistic nurse in a mental hospital," If the curse of Bojo struck down Erdogan then maybe Hillary is next.

Anonymous BGKB July 15, 2016 6:06 PM  

Hopefully our military leaders are smart enough to stay out of it and ignore any foolish orders coming from the white house.

Send the Queen Berets. I guess I put that song in the wrong post today.

Bob Loblaw wrote: No, Turkey does not have nukes. There are US nukes in Turkey, but the Turks can't arm them.

They might be smart enough to make dirty munitions from them. It turned out the old codes were all zeros because they feared screwing up.

Lol, if you call him a child molestor, or Goatfucker, yes

Color me surprised to find out that under 15yo is illegal in Turkey.

Welcome back, Tommy. your my 2nd favorite Turk after a female friend with big hooters

If Armenians count he would be pretty far down the list.

OT: Windows 10 inner jew http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2016/07/14/microsoft-confirms-windows-10-new-monthly-charge/#14e7cae1dfab

Black guy reading book is national level news. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/07/15/i-was-just-reading-a-book-canadian-cops-called-on-black-man-reading-c-s-lewis-in-his-car/

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 15, 2016 6:06 PM  

Tommy Hass wrote:Now this turd told people to take to the streets, even though the military ordered people to stay in. People are going to die.
From what I am told, I think the Erdogan true believers are Islamists. Up against the Turkish Army. If someone has to die, well, that would just break my heart.

Anonymous Steve July 15, 2016 6:08 PM  

BoJo is part-Turk himself so he knows of what he speaks.

Blogger YIH July 15, 2016 6:08 PM  

andon wrote:fck yeah. I hope they find him hanging upside down
Chilean-style helicopter ride FTW.

Blogger Tommy Hass July 15, 2016 6:13 PM  

@Snidely Whiplash

Plenty of people dislike miltary coups because the most recent one was really tyrannical. Non Islamists but people believing in the MUH DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED LEADER might follow it.

I sure hope the military handles this well.

Anonymous Millenium July 15, 2016 6:17 PM  

@58: Erdogan may not be a child molester but he worships one which is bad enough.

 I was interested what you guys would be saying about this.

Hoping Turkey nukes itself

Blogger Bob Loblaw July 15, 2016 6:18 PM  

Looks like the coup is faltering. If they don't take Erdogan off the board they're going to fail.

Anonymous Bowman July 15, 2016 6:19 PM  

That may explain Erdogan's recent excuses to Russia for the downed jet.
This kind of men never apologize, unless they are forced to.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 15, 2016 6:20 PM  

Tommy Hass wrote:I sure hope the military handles this well.

We all do. We like to joke, but this could easily escalate from a relatively bloodless coup to a regional war, given how the US and Russia and EU have destabilized the entire Near East.

Obviously I'm not conversant with opinion in Turkey, but I'd have a hard time imagining people even in the US actually taking to the streets in this scenario (manly manly men who post here excepted, of course). Perhaps democracy is new enough that people in Turkey still value it.

Blogger Elder Son July 15, 2016 6:26 PM  

@63 Is this what it's like to win at foreign policy?

Get your fill of US-Nato foreign policy -

CIA State Dept. NATO Ukraine Iraq Libya Syria ISIS

http://www.globalresearch.ca/search?q=CIA+State+Dept.+NATO+Ukraine+Iraq+Libya+Syria+ISIS&x=14&y=16

Blogger James Dixon July 15, 2016 6:27 PM  

> They don't seem to have retained the art of poetry, either.

I think it's a matter of serious debate as to whether limericks are poetry or not.

Anonymous Angriff July 15, 2016 6:28 PM  

Bob Loblaw wrote:Looks like the coup is faltering. If they don't take Erdogan off the board they're going to fail.

It looks more like the army gave them time to surrender at the Parliament and Intelligence services, and opened fire after they didn't comply within a reasonable period of time.

Blogger Bob Loblaw July 15, 2016 6:30 PM  

I hope you're right. Seeing Erdogan out of power would make my day.

Blogger Dirtnapninja July 15, 2016 6:34 PM  

If this goes bad, Europe will be deluged.

Anonymous Case July 15, 2016 6:36 PM  

,..be interesting to see how accurate my prediction is:

Erdogan was getting friendly with Putin.

Because of the possibility of a Trump Presidency, the U.S. State Dept. has decided to act against Assad before the election.

A coup was sponsored against Erdogan to prevent Turkey's relationship with Russia from being a hindrance in the effort against Syria.

Kerry goes to Moscow to inform Putin that it's going to happen and to warn him against getting involved.

The take away from it all, as mentioned, war with Syria is very imminent.

Anonymous Kreator July 15, 2016 6:37 PM  

Whatever this means, I am sure that the Turkish military is going to try to 'de-escalate' some things by doing a hot episode in Greece.

Well 20th of July grows near, the only thing we have to fear is Leftoids in our leadership.

Never Forget!

Blogger VFM #7634 July 15, 2016 6:40 PM  

So apparently Erdogan just got Morsi'd. Couldn't have happened to a nicer fellow.

Blogger Elder Son July 15, 2016 6:41 PM  

@99 Kerry did no such thing. In case you have not been reading, Putin and Lavrov have Kerry - State Dept. by the balls. And Joint Chiefs will not risk war with Russia.

Blogger Doom July 15, 2016 6:43 PM  

Case,

Good luck with that. You might make a writer, most people know no better, but if I were you I would stay away from foreign policy and international relations. That, of course, is just my opinion. Time will tell.

Blogger VFM #7634 July 15, 2016 6:44 PM  

@99 Case

Problem with that idea, is that the secular military wouldn't be expected to have the same nudge-nudge-wink-wink attitude toward ISIS as Erdogan does.

The EU wouldn't like a military junta pushing Erdogan aside either. It's not democratic or whatever.

Also, this alleged rapprochement that everybody has been talking about between Erdogan and Putin was simply Erdogan crying Uncle and trying to get Putin to lay off the beatings.

There's only one way to find out: see if the Turkish military is more willing to deal with Putin and Assad and shuts off the flow of supplies and fighters to ISIS.

Anonymous oneofthecrowd July 15, 2016 6:47 PM  

Now we get to see what Boris, our new, part Turkish Foreign Secretary is made of.

Anonymous Case July 15, 2016 6:50 PM  

This:

http://atimes.com/2016/07/russia-turkey-making-nice-sans-trust-comes-easy/

And this:

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/saudi-fm-threatens-turkey-policy-shift-toward-syria/

Blogger tz July 15, 2016 6:54 PM  

#ErdoGone

Now TPTB can try to figure out how to overthrow #Brexit.

That's the problem with Foreign Entanglements, someone might throw the anchor overboard and you might get pulled with it.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents July 15, 2016 6:54 PM  

There's only one way to find out: see if the Turkish military is more willing to deal with Putin and Assad and shuts off the flow of supplies and fighters to ISIS.

Be interesting to see if the oil tanker trucks keep rolling north out of Syria next week. Or not. Remember, the SU-27 that was shot down a while back was probably doing interdiction on oil trucks.

Anonymous Case July 15, 2016 6:55 PM  

Circumventing Obama?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnwhiwwS1fw

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents July 15, 2016 6:55 PM  

There's only one way to find out: see if the Turkish military is more willing to deal with Putin and Assad and shuts off the flow of supplies and fighters to ISIS.

Be interesting to see if the oil tanker trucks keep rolling north out of Syria next week. Or not. Remember, the SU-27 that was shot down a while back was probably doing interdiction on oil trucks.

Blogger Bob Loblaw July 15, 2016 6:56 PM  

Now we get to see what Boris, our new, part Turkish Foreign Secretary is made of.

Hah. That's not the sort of thing you want to see in your second day on the job.

Blogger Cataline Sergius July 15, 2016 6:56 PM  

Must have been a hell of a good limerick.

Blogger Dave July 15, 2016 6:59 PM  

Because of the possibility of a Trump Presidency, the U.S. State Dept. has decided to act against Assad before the election.

Nobody at the State Department really believes in the possibility of Trump as POTUS, certainly not enough to affect policy. Hill is their gal, recall the standing ovation she received her first day on the job thanks to GWB neglecting to clean house over there.

Blogger Sheila4g July 15, 2016 7:04 PM  

I'm cautiously optimistic. Hope this works out for Turkey (and us) - as earlier noted, historically the Turkish military reined in the politicians and was seen as the guardian of the secular state as established by Ataturk. FWIW, I remember some soldiers on the streets of Istanbul when I was there various times (1988-1991), but none that I recall in Bursa or Ankara. I never felt unsafe. If the military keeps the focus on nationalism and secularism rather than political repression, this could be a very good thing.

Blogger Cataline Sergius July 15, 2016 7:05 PM  

My suspicion is that the Brexit was the straw that broke the camel's back.

The EU suddenly looks a lot less inevitable than it used to.

On top of that Obama is almost but not quite out of office. He's hamstrung internationally. It's an excellent time to do some house cleaning.

Expect Obama to make a few futile comments and do nothing else.

In February there will be a new US president who will of course 'deplore a military coup d'etat...But it's too late to do anything about it now, so we will have accept the reality on the ground in Turkey'.

Anonymous Quartermaster July 15, 2016 7:06 PM  

@63
Ukraine isn't in chaos. Crimea was also stolen.

Blogger Elder Son July 15, 2016 7:13 PM  

@116

Former analyst for the CIA Ray McGovern on Ukraine…

https://youtu.be/NeSfvA4cCtg

State Dept. NATO Ukraine Crimea - http://www.globalresearch.ca/search?q=State+Dept.+NATO+Ukraine+Crimea&x=11&y=18

Actually, it was USNATO/StateDept attempt to steal Crimea from Russia.

Anonymous andon July 15, 2016 7:16 PM  

52. Blogger Cicatrizatic July 15, 2016 5:19 PM
Over the last 2 years, Erdogan has transformed the ceremonial role of President into a near dictatorship, without constitutional amendment.


sounds familiar

Anonymous andon July 15, 2016 7:19 PM  

@ #116 - whatever happened in Ukraine + Crimea was started by this administration. prob an attempt to take control and flood them with muds too

Blogger BigFire July 15, 2016 7:19 PM  

Erdogan's family have been busily enriching themselves with smuggled oil supplied by ISIS.

Anonymous EH July 15, 2016 7:25 PM  

https://twitter.com/Stratfor
has more info. than the newspaper or TV sites

Anonymous andon July 15, 2016 7:27 PM  

105. Anonymous oneofthecrowd July 15, 2016 6:47 PM
Now we get to see what Boris, our new, part Turkish Foreign Secretary is made of.


if he's so proud of his turkish heritage, what's he doing in Britain?

Anonymous andon July 15, 2016 7:41 PM  

@ #120 - another "man of the people"

Blogger Cataline Sergius July 15, 2016 7:46 PM  

There doesn't seem to be a statement from the Turkish Chief of Staff yet.

I'm beginning to wonder how much senior support this coup has.

Anonymous Rifki July 15, 2016 7:49 PM  

Erdogan took the Midnight Express

Blogger VD July 15, 2016 8:00 PM  

I'm beginning to wonder how much senior support this coup has.

Looks like just the air force and one armored division.

OpenID denektenorsk July 15, 2016 8:01 PM  

Sounds like a perfect addition to the EU.

Blogger JaimeInTexas July 15, 2016 8:01 PM  

The downside to a failed coup is too great - Russia/Putin not involved.

I hope Erdrogan is gone. We shall see.

Blogger Cataline Sergius July 15, 2016 8:06 PM  

This coup is starting to look wobbly.

Edrogen has been on TV. That is never a good sign for a take over.

However, as all the taking heads are saying "the situation is fluid."

Which means nobody knows what the fuck is going on. Including the principle players.

Anonymous grey enlightenment July 15, 2016 8:07 PM  

Crappy country that has a sub 90 Iq according to wealth of nations. disposing Erdrogan wont make a difference. revolving door of corruption and incompetence.. like the movie idiocracy

Anonymous TheVillageIdiot Ret. July 15, 2016 8:09 PM  

ISTANBUL(NOT CONSTANTINOPLE)
DannyR

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents July 15, 2016 8:10 PM  

Erdogan blaming the "Gulenist network" for the coup. If that is true, and it could just be another Erdogan smoke screen, it would suggest American involvement at some level, given the tolerance the Gulen training / testing centers have received in the US.

A civil war in Turkey would obviously have a lot of spillover.

Blogger Cataline Sergius July 15, 2016 8:18 PM  

Correction: Not exactly on television.

http://news.sky.com/video/erdogans-facetime-message-to-people-10503151

He called into a TV journalist and communicated his message to her via Skype. She was holding up her smartphone with Erdogan appearing via that.

Blogger Cataline Sergius July 15, 2016 8:24 PM  

"Turkish military’s chief legal counsel Muharrem Kose identified as coup plotter." A lawyer-led military coup? That has to be a first. "We've filed all the documents correctly, there's no way this can fail!"

At least the EU will be giving it a second and more favorable look.

Blogger JCclimber July 15, 2016 8:31 PM  

I'm just surprised it has taken this long.

The dozens of military leaders who have been forcibly retired by Erdogan will require a little time to retake control of their old units, if it is even possible. So, unless portions of the military sit this out, this could drag on for awhile as pro-Erdogon military leaders fight pro-secular Turkey military leaders.

Blogger Cataline Sergius July 15, 2016 8:34 PM  

The Turkish coup attempt has been curbed, spokesman for the country’s National Intelligence Organization Nuh Yilmaz said on Saturday.

"The coup attempt in turkey has been curbed. All the events will be over before morning," he told the Turkish NTV television channel, adding that the attempt was made by a group of the Air Force military.

According to the National Intelligence Organization spokesman, security services have detained 13 people in military uniforms who attempted to penetrate into the presidential palace in Ankara.


More:
http://tass.ru/en/world/888638


This is directly quoted from the Russian news service Tass.

Blogger tz July 15, 2016 8:34 PM  

Lawyer, Coup, Rule of Law, pick two.
Meanwhile, does A list of those seeking to prevent Trump from assuming office qualify for the list? I'd so love to sign a counter-petition that I won't buy any product until they are fired (they didn't have to ID their employer, but they did, so I'm free to ask their employer just as if one hired David Duke).

Blogger Cicatrizatic July 15, 2016 8:34 PM  

Kose is a Gulenist

Blogger 罗臻 July 15, 2016 8:37 PM  

Socionomic Alert: Military Takes Control in Turkey

Back in August 2015 I used technical analysis of TUR to predict Turkey would blow up. I thought the currency and stock market would fall (still might if Erdogan retains power). Socionomics FTW.

Blogger tz July 15, 2016 8:40 PM  

The lack of Niceness from Merkel and such will probably weigh heavily. Erdogan can dump refugees in Germany. He should pay ferrymen!.

Anonymous Sharrukin July 15, 2016 8:41 PM  

Turkish 2nd Army commander (Syrian border region) has backed Erdogan as has the 1st Army commander (Istanbul and the Straits). 3rd Army commander has ordered all his troops to return to barracks and they seem to be the ones involved.

Looks like a failed coup.

Blogger GFR July 15, 2016 8:42 PM  

many of turkeys neighbours are muslim also. how will the turks feel when they get into a war of attrition like iran and irag did - and a couple of million of their young men are turned into hamburger by heavy artillery and cluster bombs.
.
if trump wanted to turn the us into the caliphate - id vote for hillary. there is no moral equivalence between radical islam and a constitutional republic.

Blogger tz July 15, 2016 8:46 PM  

The problem with an attempt to kill the King is when you don't. Not unlike if you attempt to destroy a hornet's or wasp nest.

But who cares, There's a rare Pokemon in my Go app.

Blogger Paul Lutgen July 15, 2016 8:47 PM  

Russians behind it?

Blogger Paul Lutgen July 15, 2016 8:48 PM  

Is the Russians pushing and supporting the coup I mean?

Blogger Cicatrizatic July 15, 2016 8:49 PM  

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Anonymous andon July 15, 2016 8:51 PM  

well this is disappointing

Anonymous Sharrukin July 15, 2016 8:52 PM  

144. Paul Lutgen

"Russians behind it?"

Unlikely. The coup seems to be Islamists just like Erdogan and not the secular Turkish army types.

That doesn't really help Russia and may harm them if they turn out to be even nuttier than Erdogan.

Anonymous DeepThought July 15, 2016 8:56 PM  

Erdogan is not a runner. Don't make me laugh. This was the last gasp of the socialist secularist who once ruled Turkiye when it was a one party dictatorship.

Blogger Servant of the Chief July 15, 2016 8:56 PM  

Actually guys something is still up, soldiers just stormed Turkey CNN and forced the anchor off air, currently Turkey CNN is just airing an empty studio.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CncnswdUAAA1eMD.jpg

Blogger SS July 15, 2016 9:01 PM  

If anyone is behind this, it is more likely to be US assets than Russian. Gulen has a lot of friends in the US. Wouldnt be surprised if Obama and Kerry running out to support Erdogan so fast wasnt to cover themselves.

Blogger tz July 15, 2016 9:01 PM  

I'm waiting for BLM to declare war on speeding tickets. Pulling someone over normally means the cop has to get out of his car, where he can become road-kill.

Cops may soon rue the day they became red-coat revenuers instead of peace officers.

Blogger The Other Robot July 15, 2016 9:02 PM  

There is a first for everything.

A lawyer lead insurection, what a surprise.

Kratman would know.

Blogger The Other Robot July 15, 2016 9:04 PM  

OK, I am officially disgusted now. A girls school somewhere in America has "buddy" toilets!

Blogger SS July 15, 2016 9:06 PM  

tz wrote:I'm waiting for BLM to declare war on speeding tickets. Pulling someone over normally means the cop has to get out of his car, where he can become road-kill.

Cops may soon rue the day they became red-coat revenuers instead of peace officers.


They have pretty much given up on large areas of the metro area I live in already. You can cruise just about any speed you want, traffic permitting, on several of the highways around here. They just never patrol them. Doesnt have anything to do with ferals, they've been like that for quite a while now.

Blogger Aeoli Pera July 15, 2016 9:06 PM  

Ignorance follows: I wonder if the CIA tipped him off. They would seem to be natural allies.

VD wrote:I'm beginning to wonder how much senior support this coup has.

Looks like just the air force and one armored division.


Exactly the opposite of what they actually need, then.

Anonymous DeepThought July 15, 2016 9:06 PM  

All Soldiers are gone from Ataturk airport. Tanks and troops pulling out of Ankara. This coup is a fail.

Anonymous Ellipsis Lacuna July 15, 2016 9:10 PM  

If the coup was by Islamists it's good that it failed.

If Erdogan uses it as an excuse to reinforce his power that would be a problem.

If the military decides they've had enough of this nonsense and decide to stage a REAL coup (which they will win, having superior force) it's good.

But then there's the Kurds and ISIL and Putin and Assad. Arrrgh, damn Byzantine politics, too complicated for me.

Blogger The Other Robot July 15, 2016 9:12 PM  

Are the Kruds taking advantage of this?

Anonymous BGKB July 15, 2016 9:17 PM  

It would have been nice to have a nation turning 3rd world moslems away.

'm waiting for BLM to declare war on speeding tickets. Pulling someone

Today was supposed to be the nigger day of rage is lots of liberal cities I have not seen any news about it today.

OK, I am officially disgusted now. A girls school somewhere in America has "buddy" toilets!

Do you mean bidet or 2 toilets side by side in a stall?

Anonymous Philalethes July 15, 2016 9:24 PM  

Today was supposed to be the nigger day of rage is lots of liberal cities I have not seen any news about it today.

Friend in Tucson was watching for it, says:

punked
both police and BLM know nothing about it
different parks given as locations
a non-event

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 15, 2016 9:30 PM  

The Other Robot wrote:There is a first for everything.

A lawyer lead insurection, what a surprise.


Samuel Adams, Thomas Jefferson and Patrick Henry would like a word with you.

Blogger tz July 15, 2016 9:31 PM  

@155 Drive through Detroit - many cars don't have license place. Fewer have licenses, registrations, and insurance is ignored.

@160 Turkey day displacement. But do you thing the MSM would cover it if they reduced one or more of the targets into a smoking crater? Yet the day is not over.

Then there will be Cleveland and Philly.

Blogger Tommy Hass July 15, 2016 9:36 PM  

"Crappy country that has a sub 90 Iq according to wealth of nations."

93 isn't sub 90.

And this isn't done by Gülen, lol, don't believe Erdogan.

Blogger tz July 15, 2016 9:36 PM  

The coup coup clock is a minute closer to midnight.

Anonymous PhillipGeorge July 15, 2016 9:53 PM  

What's really worrying to Erdogan is how German cartoonists are going to handle this. Angela Merkel should step in and tell them what to draw preemtively. Full membership of the EU could be at risk if German cartoonists make any more sudden moves

Blogger tz July 15, 2016 10:21 PM  

Erdogan flys the coup.

Blogger ZhukovG July 15, 2016 10:37 PM  

Well, it looks like the man who would be the new Ottoman Sultan won this one.

Anonymous BGKB July 15, 2016 10:39 PM  

While looking for nigger day of rage info came across this. http://www.thedailysheeple.com/oops-cnn-accidentally-labels-france-terror-witness-as-trump-rampage-survivor_072016

Holy GRapeRapeMartin. http://www.thedailysheeple.com/wtf-new-israeli-defense-forces-chief-rabbi-says-soldiers-can-rape-arab-women-during-wartime-to-boost-morale_072016

Blogger tz July 15, 2016 10:43 PM  

Caliph fate.

What is happening in the US cities where BLM was protesting? Everyone is looking at the Turkey.

Blogger John Williams July 15, 2016 10:49 PM  

The Turkish military has a constitutional obligation to oust lawless leaders
So does ours.

Anonymous Takin' a Look July 15, 2016 10:49 PM  

Tommy Haas

Still around Sabbatean?

Blogger Robert Divinity July 15, 2016 10:53 PM  

All unsettled at daybreak, which will tell the tale. It leans "Erdogan." My main interest is whether white Western nations come to the assistance of an Islamist government. The odds are they will if it comes down to it.

Blogger bob k. mando July 15, 2016 10:54 PM  

32. Bob Loblaw July 15, 2016 4:55 PM
You're only gonna be able to kill a handful of people by dropping an unarmed nuke on them. It would be pretty similar to the cement bombs we used in Iraq.



quite apart from it's radioactive effects, plutonium is quite poisonous. it's considered approximately as dangerous as nerve gas.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plutonium#Toxicity

you powder the fissiles in the warhead, then use a crop duster or something.

it's nice how flammable plutonium oxides are ...



53. Mr.MantraMan July 15, 2016 5:19 PM
A military coup is needed in Germany, France and Sweden and if the lunatics in DC can't be reigned in a time out for them as well



there is that.



54. Arthur Isaac July 15, 2016 5:19 PM
Democracy is a transitional form of government.


all forms of government are transitional.



63. Cicatrizatic July 15, 2016 5:24 PM
Is this what it's like to win at foreign policy?



the sad thing? Putin isn't even breathing hard.



80. Steve July 15, 2016 5:58 PM
Erdogan's probably not a goatfucker. He looks more like the kind of guy who'd molest a pelican.



don't you DARE find a picture, you evil little shit.



99. Case July 15, 2016 6:36 PM
A coup was sponsored against Erdogan to prevent Turkey's relationship with Russia from being a hindrance in the effort against Syria.



what in the hell are you smoking?

Erdogan tried to instigate a war against Russia by shooting those jets down and then demanding NATO protection ... without Russia having reacted.

Erdogan remaining in power may not be under the control of the Western elites but he is certainly no ally to Putin.



109. Case July 15, 2016 6:55 PM
Circumventing Obama?


damn, you're gullible.

a - the Obama admin lies about everything.
b - pronouncements by the Press Secretary bear no policy weight WHATSOEVER, regardless of who is President. his only job is to not embarrass the President by too obviously Baghdad Bobbing it.
c - i've been pointing out, at least since Crimea, that Obama blusters about Russia a great deal ... but if you view all of his actions as DESIGNED to give Putin pretext to make various moves to Russian advantage, they all make sense.

yes, i'm saying Obama is likely taking orders directly from Putin. just as he implied in this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsFR8DbSRQE

regardless of what the actual case may be, Kerry has no authority of his own. if he makes a deal that Obama rejects, Obama will boot his ass. if he makes a deal that Congress rejects ( yes, i know, Mcucknell and Ryan ), he's holding a piece of paper with some scripples on it.

Kerry can accomplish nothing binding on his own authority.

Anonymous Nathan July 15, 2016 11:01 PM  

So, what's the chances that this is a Gulenist plot? Or is the group with ties to Hillary Clinton just the patsy here?

Anonymous silas birch July 15, 2016 11:09 PM  

I bet the CIA is involved with this one

Blogger Billy July 15, 2016 11:17 PM  

Typically when there is a coup, (((The U.S. Govn))) is the one pulling the strings. Perhaps ZOG was upset with the peace pipe Erdogan passed to Russia recently.

Blogger Troy Lee Messer July 15, 2016 11:23 PM  

This isn't the Texit I was looking for.

Blogger Billy July 15, 2016 11:27 PM  

Quite a few leaders that play nice with the U.S. end up without a job, when they've out lived their usefulness. gaddafi, mubarak. Hell, they are trying their damndest to retire Assad.

Anonymous Ronnie July 15, 2016 11:29 PM  

Can't say that I really care what happens in Turkey.

Blogger Cecil Henry July 15, 2016 11:43 PM  

@180:

Many would say they don't care what happens in Syria or Libya, but then wait....

I think they should!!!

Blogger dh July 16, 2016 12:02 AM  

The lawyers thing reminds of Pakistan. The lawyers are revolting, the lawyers are really mad at Musharraf now! Any day now, any day now they're really going to throw him out. Morons.

Anonymous Jack Amok July 16, 2016 12:15 AM  

"Turkish military’s chief legal counsel Muharrem Kose identified as coup plotter." A lawyer-led military coup?

He must have been expecting a few more amicus briefs to be filed by infantry commanders. Too bad. Guess it goes to the appeals court of public opinion now.

Blogger Phillip George July 16, 2016 12:48 AM  

This is indeed a tense situation. With France officially in three days of mourning should the Eiffel Tower be lit up with Turkey's colours [blood red], or the French red, white and blue.

The solution is perhaps

#FrenchLivesMatterEpeciallyWhenTheyAreBlackorTurkish.

Everyone's included now, AllahHuAkbar.

But the more serious question is how could this be a popular Arab Spring type uprising when Victoria Nuland hasn't been to Turkey since January and George Soros is on sick leave.

No document shredder needed this time. AllahHuAkbar without help.
#PrayForIstantBull.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents July 16, 2016 1:13 AM  

CNN-Turk is quoting Prime Minister Binali Yildirim as saying that commander of Turkey's 1st Army, Gen. Umit Dundar, has been appointed acting chief of military staff.

And
State-run Anadolu Agency is reporting 754 members of the armed forces have been detained across Turkey in the wake of the attempted coup.

Fail.

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Blogger Phillip George July 16, 2016 1:35 AM  

There's too many questions here Vox. Who wants to stick their hand up as the first world leader to telephone El Predidente Erdogan and congratulate him on his successful Coup Survival?

What's solidarity good for, allah hu akbar, if you can't bask in the world leader glory of it all?

come on Angela Show some solidarity.

Blogger Phat Repat July 16, 2016 1:38 AM  

This is rather good news. Only attempts at distraction from the main event. The failing of the $IMFS must be near, thank goodness. Restrain these psychopaths, one way or another. I prefer another, as that would be the final option, no coming back from that.

Anonymous Die Fledermaus July 16, 2016 2:01 AM  

This reeks of False Flag. Erdogan was facing a lot of flack due to his recent diplomatic guffaws with Israel and Russia. He needed something to boost his hold. Generally, real coups in Turkey do not fail, their military tends to act very unified in one of those.

Blogger The Overgrown Hobbit July 16, 2016 2:20 AM  

A good source for news and background to what is happening in Turkey is Claire Berlinski of City Journal.

Meanwhile, pray for our brothers and sisters serving as missionaries there.

Blogger Doom July 16, 2016 2:44 AM  

Die Fledermaus,

Actually? Now, not that I knew what was going on there recently, about that. But I kept looking at this and... it wasn't adding up. Your two cents just might be the deciding factor. Wait until the coupers find out that no good deed goes unpunished. *grins*

It never works when you murder your willing accomplices and everyone realizes what you just did. Still... all good. Doubly so in this case, if it turns as I suspect.

Blogger APL July 16, 2016 2:51 AM  

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Blogger APL July 16, 2016 2:53 AM  

" But this is hardly the first military coup in Turkey;"

Greece next, then it's back to the '60s and deja vu all over again.

Anonymous Kreator July 16, 2016 4:12 AM  

21th of April 2.0. BELIEVE!

Blogger Lazarus July 16, 2016 5:24 AM  

Billy wrote:Typically when there is a coup, (((The U.S. Govn))) is the one pulling the strings. Perhaps ZOG was upset with the peace pipe Erdogan passed to Russia recently.

That would be odd, considering Isreal took a puff on the same pipe on June 27th.

Israel and Turkey announced on Monday they would normalize ties after a six-year rupture, a rare rapprochement in the divided Middle East driven by the prospect of lucrative Mediterranean gas deals as well as mutual fears over growing security risks.

Anonymous vfm #0202 July 16, 2016 6:11 AM  

@174 bkm

Damn, I hate it when my idiot enemies do that. ^1000 when my genius friends do. You mined wikipedia for the money nerve gas quote, ignoring the contrary opinions. You had a narrative to support.

Grinding up weapons grade Pu for a dirty bomb should be cause for wild celebration by the target population.

Anonymous Godfrey July 16, 2016 9:20 AM  



The key to a successful coup IS TO KILL THE ONE IT'S DIRECTED AT.

The first step of the coup should have been several bullets into the head of Erdogan.

Blogger Mark Cook July 16, 2016 9:38 AM  

Looks like false flag to shore up Islamist power to me, Erdogan has learned well from is buddy B. Hussein

Anonymous Moonbear July 16, 2016 9:53 AM  

The key to a successful coup IS TO KILL THE ONE IT'S DIRECTED AT.

Exactly, it seems suspicious that Mister Presidente was "on holiday" and came back just in time to witness the coup being foiled.
One would think it almost impossible to miss your own president as the nations army, in their own country if their goal was to get rid of him.
Spec ops are notoriously good at killing single targets if you know where the target is.

Anonymous Godfrey July 16, 2016 10:11 AM  

@198
Agreed... a possible manipulation of the masses.

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