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Friday, July 22, 2016

How to use Brave at VP

After trying to sort out a different issue, I inadvertently discovered the problem with using Brave to comment here at VP. This is how to correct the problem and allow Brave users to comment here, assuming that you are like me and tend to keep your security levels reasonably high.
  1. Log into Google.
  2. Go to VP.
  3. Click on the orange lion head on the upper right to Open Bravery Panel. It will say Brave site shield settings for voxday.blogspot.com or your national equivalent.
  4. Take the shields down.
This also works with Name/URL for those who don't wish to utilize a Google account. It is safe because the only scripts here are the local book carousel scripts, the Google scripts, and the Amazon scripts and it will only affect your browser security settings on this site. And you can click to see for yourself exactly what they are and confirm for yourself that they are harmless.

At the present, only one percent of the users here are on Brave. Let's get that up over 20 percent! Even at this early stage, it really is worth the minor additional effort required.


KNOWN BUG AND TEMPORARY FIX: I was having a problem with both Twitter and Blogger periodically logging me out for no apparent reason. To prevent this, go to Settings, then Security, and under Private Data, turn off Clear All Site Cookies when Brave is closed.

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99 Comments:

Blogger Christopher Yost July 22, 2016 6:43 PM  

No idea what Brave is. Haven't even heard of it.

Would it effect Kindles 'cause I have no ability to comment when using it.

Anonymous Faceless July 22, 2016 6:46 PM  

Now that's keen. I bet this trick will let me cross the few remaining hurdles keeping me in Chrome otherwise.

Blogger TarjaJu July 22, 2016 6:47 PM  

I have never heard of Brave. Checking it out now.

Blogger SS July 22, 2016 6:47 PM  

You haven't been here long or come around rarely then.

Anonymous Rolf July 22, 2016 6:49 PM  

Brave commenting test. No google stuff for me, tho.

Anonymous vfm #0202 July 22, 2016 6:54 PM  

I have old eyes and run a UHD monitor, so usually about at 250% zoom for reading websites. Brave doesn't seem to have the usual ctrl-shift-+/- zoom controls, which makes it unusable for me.

While I'm on talking zoom, the book cover images in the left upper margin don't scale correctly in Chrome - they will overlap into the text area and obscure it at high zooms.

Blogger D.J. July 22, 2016 6:55 PM  

Comment test using Brave.

OpenID aew51183 July 22, 2016 6:55 PM  

does brave allow ad-block by blacklist rather than whitelist?

Blogger Random July 22, 2016 6:58 PM  

works!

Anonymous VD July 22, 2016 6:58 PM  

does brave allow ad-block by blacklist rather than whitelist?

I don't know. Experiment and see.

Anonymous NorthernHamlet July 22, 2016 7:06 PM  

VD,

Have you seen or care to comment on Vivaldi? I'll give Brave a look.

Blogger Rantor July 22, 2016 7:10 PM  

Brave test...

Blogger Cloudswrest July 22, 2016 7:11 PM  

Brave test #2

Blogger Cloudswrest July 22, 2016 7:11 PM  

Thanks. I didn't know it didn't work 'till I read VD's latest post.

Blogger JaimeInTexas July 22, 2016 7:12 PM  

I installed Brave at home a while back but I have not used it. I installed Nrave at work this morning. It seems to be very slow but I have many apps running and it is a laptop.

Blogger tz July 22, 2016 7:12 PM  

The bubble browser on Android won't work for me.

Perhaps they could do a Brave filter proxy or an extension for PaleMoon - I can't copy my PM config to Brave nor tweak Brave on the desktop and I don't expect that to change.

Blogger SemiSpook37 July 22, 2016 7:12 PM  

Testing...if you're seeing this, it works!

Anonymous 5343 July 22, 2016 7:15 PM  

Hey, it works. I'm in.

Anonymous andon July 22, 2016 7:20 PM  

I don't see a portable edition so i'll pass on Brave for now.

Blogger KSC July 22, 2016 7:23 PM  

I will experiment with it when the developers get back to me on screen reader accessibility.

Anonymous Spartacus xxxxx July 22, 2016 7:24 PM  

Christopher Yost wrote:No idea what Brave is. Haven't even heard of it.

Me either. Guess search on 'brave browser'. Yes. https://www.brave.com/

Browse faster and safer with Brave.

The new Brave browser automatically blocks ads and trackers, making it faster and safer than your current browser.

Soon, micropayments and better ads will give users and publishers a better deal.


More people using it will help build it up.

Blogger #7139 July 22, 2016 7:25 PM  

I have been using Brave for a couple months. Glad to have that sorted out.

Blogger MagisterGreen July 22, 2016 7:27 PM  

I love Brave, and hope to see it continue to grow. Glad to get this fix.

Anonymous #8601 Jean Valjean July 22, 2016 7:29 PM  

@6 VFM0202

The zoom controls work for me but they revert to 100% every time I switch posts or change pages. It pretty much makes Brave unusable for me.

Anonymous Contrarian July 22, 2016 7:30 PM  

Vivaldi test.

Blogger Salt July 22, 2016 7:31 PM  

Didn't do that. Comment just fine via brave.

Anonymous Spartacus xxxxx July 22, 2016 7:33 PM  

Ah. https://www.brave.com/about.html
Brendan Eich
Founder, President and CEO

Sounds like a story we once heard about Pres. Scalzi and the SFWA. That's good enough already, but wait, there's more- https://www.brave.com/index.html#faster
Up to a whopping 60% of page load time is caused by the underlying ad technology that loads
into various places each time you hit a page on your favorite news site.
And 20% of this is time spent on loading things that are trying to learn more about you.

Blogger Doom July 22, 2016 7:35 PM  

I haven't been up to putting my new machine together. Brave doesn't service OS's older than win 7. So... until or unless... I'm sort of stuck. Yeah... I looked into it. Iron is dying, Pale Moon is in decent, not much else out there. Bleh.

Blogger Salt July 22, 2016 7:35 PM  

Had 3rd party cookies enabled. Disabled. Shield up. No comment. Disable shield. Comment.

Blogger beerme July 22, 2016 7:36 PM  

Brave works flawlessly for commenting with this method, thanks. Once Brave has a client side option for a feed reader I can fully ditch Pale Moon and Iron.

Anonymous #8601 Jean Valjean July 22, 2016 7:37 PM  

I take it back. Looks like Brave has improved since the last time I tried it. There is even a quick zoom function now at the top right (under the Lion) like in Chrome. Much appreciated!

Blogger Clay, Bill Clay July 22, 2016 7:38 PM  

Done. Thanks

Anonymous URL IRL July 22, 2016 7:39 PM  

Been on Brave since yesterday, so far so good. It's fast and clean.

Anonymous Steveo July 22, 2016 7:43 PM  

Looks good,
No Ads in Outlook - AWESOME. Outlook notices "It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker...
Cool, I'm in.

Anonymous Anonymous July 22, 2016 7:46 PM  

Brave needs keepass support, keepass works with firefox/chrome, so cant use a 3rd browser without support. Also reddit enhancement suite would be needed.

Blogger Nick S July 22, 2016 7:52 PM  

You only need to unblock scripts and allow cookies for this site. Also, Brave will remember your settings for this site so you don't need to reconfigure each time or change your global settings. At least it does for me.

Blogger beerme July 22, 2016 8:04 PM  

@16 Looks like Brave is going to a tabbed based UI with the next planned release and making the browser usable for those of us who hate those bubbles Brave Development Timeline 08.26.16

Blogger Escoffier July 22, 2016 8:04 PM  

Test

Blogger Escoffier July 22, 2016 8:04 PM  

Cool. Thanks Boss.

Blogger VD July 22, 2016 8:09 PM  

Looks like Brave is going to a tabbed based UI with the next planned release and making the browser usable for those of us who hate those bubbles Brave Development Timeline 08.26.16

Yeah, I'm waiting for that too on Android.

Anonymous SDH July 22, 2016 8:20 PM  

Brave Name/URL comment

Blogger The Other Robot July 22, 2016 8:23 PM  

OT, Veto Gunmageddon

Anonymous CitizenOutkast July 22, 2016 8:28 PM  

Seeing as how Pale Moon never lets me comment, I have Brave open now and am giving this a try. Hope everyone sees this.

Blogger Feather Blade July 22, 2016 8:41 PM  

@19 They have a version available that works on iPad. That's what I'm using now.

Blogger Teri July 22, 2016 8:41 PM  

I tried it out yesterday, but had an odd issue. When I would bring a background window up, Brave was still ghosted over the new window. I'll give it another try next week and see if it's still an issue. I just installed Win 10 on my work computer, so don't know if that's a factor.

Blogger Teri July 22, 2016 8:43 PM  

I tried it out yesterday, but had an odd issue. When I would bring a background window up, Brave was still ghosted over the new window. I'll give it another try next week and see if it's still an issue. I just installed Win 10 on my work computer, so don't know if that's a factor.

Anonymous Nym Coy July 22, 2016 8:44 PM  

In related news, here is a post on how to use gnusocial / quitter. http://nymcoy.blogspot.in/2016/07/how-to-quit-twitter.html

Anonymous idprism July 22, 2016 8:48 PM  

once brave gets dark/night mode, i will start using it a little more.

i still dont like webkit/blink based browsers, but the choices dwindle.

Blogger Rusty Fife July 22, 2016 8:48 PM  

The Other Robot wrote:OT, Veto Gunmageddon

You spammed me into something having to do with California you despicable wretch.

Blogger Rantor July 22, 2016 8:50 PM  

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Blogger Rantor July 22, 2016 8:54 PM  

I have brave on my iPad, shall update phone and PC....

Blogger The Other Robot July 22, 2016 9:02 PM  

@48: Next time I will mark such things as CA specific.

Once I escape from the asylum I will stop.

Anonymous andon July 22, 2016 9:02 PM  

CitizenOutkast July 22, 2016 8:28 PM
Seeing as how Pale Moon never lets me comment.....


its prob an add-on or a browser setting

Blogger Michael Maier July 22, 2016 9:04 PM  

Testing via Brave browser.

Anonymous JNorth July 22, 2016 9:10 PM  

vfm #0202, try just Ctrl-+/- that is what is working for me.

#8601 Jean Valjean, are you using version 0.11.1? It isn't resizing on page changes for me.

Anonymous oneofthecrowd July 22, 2016 9:14 PM  

Test.
Will fortune favour the brave?

Anonymous oneofthecrowd July 22, 2016 9:17 PM  

Seems it does. Though is their any benefit to using Brave with shields off versus any other browser?

Blogger Were-Puppy July 22, 2016 9:25 PM  

Test Test

Blogger Were-Puppy July 22, 2016 9:30 PM  

Anybody know if there are addons for Brave?
I like using the VPN add ons and a couple other things in Chrome.

Anonymous Brave July 22, 2016 9:42 PM  

Brave test

Anonymous Spartacus xxxxx July 22, 2016 10:27 PM  

Brave test2, shield down. Now preview works and name is saved. and publish...

Anonymous IncoherentM July 22, 2016 10:32 PM  

I don't comment much, but thought I'd test it out. I like this latest version of Brave better than the previous I used shortly a few months ago.

Blogger John S July 22, 2016 10:37 PM  

Tell Eich to throw some smooth scrolling into Brave, this shit is jarring...

Anonymous Randall July 22, 2016 10:40 PM  

I just tried FaceBook using Brave, and it logged me out for no reason.

Blogger lowercaseb July 22, 2016 10:43 PM  

I'd use Brave, but first I need to check out the code of conduct on the project.

Anonymous Rufus July 22, 2016 10:57 PM  

testing. Still getting to grips with Brave (importing favourites & bookmarks = nightmare), but am going to stick with it for a while and see how it goes. I use Pale Moon for 95% of my surfing & Chrome the odd time when PM will not play videos.

Anonymous kfg July 22, 2016 11:00 PM  

"I just tried FaceBook using Brave, and it logged me out for no reason."

Feature, not bug.

Anonymous Turner Ashby July 22, 2016 11:04 PM  

Note that users of the Chrome extension "HTTPS Everywhere" have to disable it somehow to get to Vox Popoli. The easiest way, at least in Vivaldi, is to open a Private Window, which will disable all extensions unless you check a box allowing them.

Blogger Alfred Genesson July 22, 2016 11:22 PM  

Tessting. The commenting thing was one aspect keeping me from switching completely from Pale Moon.

Anonymous Hognose @ Weaponsman.com July 22, 2016 11:30 PM  

Here's a test shot from Brave. Got it on your recommendation yesterday. It's my favorite browser already today.

Blogger Chris McCullough July 22, 2016 11:39 PM  

I like the speed that massive swath of background processes bugs me a little.

Blogger Ingot9455 July 23, 2016 12:28 AM  

Un Mouseketeer est brave.

Anonymous Mr Hyde July 23, 2016 12:33 AM  

After using Brave for Youtube, all the other browsers become unbearable in comparison

Blogger Ostar July 23, 2016 1:16 AM  

Another Brave user here.

Blogger Mark Butterworth July 23, 2016 2:20 AM  

I like Brave's speed but bookmark import and management so not good.

Anonymous jdgalt July 23, 2016 2:50 AM  

Vox, I'm surprised you're still using Twitter. http://sealion.club/ doesn't ban people for being conservative, libertarian, Alt-Right, or anything else.

Anonymous Mr Hyde July 23, 2016 6:05 AM  

@jdgalt
yes, but twitter is where all the normies are. I agree it needs to change

Blogger Josh July 23, 2016 7:16 AM  

Test comment in brave

Anonymous Mister M July 23, 2016 8:03 AM  

tried to comment in Brave for my first comment here ever. Didn't work. Luckily I have a strong enough constitution I didn't take it personally.

Blogger James Dixon July 23, 2016 8:17 AM  

I had noticed that comments wouldn't appear when I was browsing the site with Brave, so I pretty much stuck to Pale Moon. Nice to know there's a fix.

However: Brave for Linux comes in two versions:
64 bit .deb for Debian/Ubuntu and 64 bit .rpm for Fedora/openSUSE. No Slackware support and no 32 bit support. I could try downloading the source and compiling it, but that's not something I have time to play with right now, so for the time being I'm stuck with Pale Moon at home.

> Have you seen or care to comment on Vivaldi?

Vivaldi has become my wife's browser of choice.

> The bubble browser on Android won't work for me.

It works for me, but not all features are supported and it slows my phone to a crawl. :( I finally had to uninstall it. To be fair, the phone is almost four years old.

Blogger Jack Aubrey July 23, 2016 9:11 AM  

Trying out Brave on my iPad. Seems much faster than Chrome or Safari.

Anonymous Gedrin July 23, 2016 9:22 AM  

Trying out Brave on my Mac. So far I'm digging how fast it is. Shields are down, commence posting

Anonymous technochitlin July 23, 2016 9:28 AM  

Test comment with Vivaldi- ya'll should try it!

Anonymous vfm #0202 July 23, 2016 9:39 AM  

@Jean Valjean
The mouse zoom controls in the top right widget work, but reset as noted. My complaint was that the keyboard shortcuts (ctrl-shift-plus and ctrl-shift-minus) don't work. But yes, unusable for me.

Blogger Raggededge July 23, 2016 10:06 AM  

Testing Brave. Also Ctrl +/- works fine for me in Brave.

Blogger Banjo July 23, 2016 10:46 AM  

Testing Brave on iOS...

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 July 23, 2016 11:11 AM  

I was wondering about that. Is there a specific shield I can deactivate?

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 July 23, 2016 11:12 AM  

You don't have to disable all shields, just the one that blocks third-party cookies.

Blogger Were-Puppy July 23, 2016 11:57 AM  

I don't have time for a while to investigate Brave much.

It looks like it has built in coding to prevent a lot of the crap I use Ghostery for.

That's a plus. But does anybody know if it has anything like ZenMate or another VPN extension?

It might be that Brave is still a work in progress, and I like how clean and fast it is so far.

Blogger VD July 23, 2016 1:23 PM  

It might be that Brave is still a work in progress, and I like how clean and fast it is so far.

Might be? It is. The current version is 0.11.1.

Blogger Nick S July 23, 2016 3:05 PM  

Were-Puppy wrote:But does anybody know if it has anything like ZenMate or another VPN extension?

Not yet, but I think the plan is to eventually get Electron to accomodate everything Mozilla is working on with WebExtensions to get Firefox (Electrolysis) compatible with Chrome extensions. It could take a while.

Anonymous Spartacus xxxxx July 23, 2016 3:07 PM  

Mister M wrote:tried to comment in Brave for my first comment here ever. Didn't work. Luckily I have a strong enough constitution I didn't take it personally.

Good. So almost Brave a comment.

Anonymous MendoScot July 23, 2016 3:28 PM  

Testing

Anonymous LastRedoubt July 23, 2016 3:39 PM  

Put Brave on my tablet, if it's as far along as you say - I'll be testing if it's "good enough" - I'll keep it as my default.

Thanks for the tip

Anonymous FitzRobert July 23, 2016 6:13 PM  

Leaving comment to test Brave.

Blogger SirHamster July 24, 2016 5:58 PM  

Test comment. Nice, this is the main reason I wasn't using Brave for all my browsing.

Anonymous Pode July 25, 2016 9:01 AM  

FYI, IT guru here in the US Navy says no FedGov system will likely ever be allowed to run Brave. So there's another endorsement.

Blogger Roger Cook July 25, 2016 12:28 PM  

Brave shields up, Brave Ads, allow all cookies, HTTPS everywhere, and block phishing/malware.

Can you see me?

Anonymous DarthWheatley #2415 July 25, 2016 1:46 PM  

YES! Full steam ahead!!

Thanks, Vox...

{Posted from Brave}

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