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Monday, July 11, 2016

Mailvox: you're going to need a bigger state

IreneAthena suggests permitting whites to self-segregate to a reservation:
What's all this about designating one state, or five, and forcing all the blacks to move there? That idea smacks of the slave trade, with Africans being dragged away from their familiar homes and forced to live in places not of their choosing.

What we need is a separate state--just one ought to do it -- reserved for Whites who can't manage to live in the same state with any of the other races. If whites want to live in such an exclusive setting, they may, but they'll have no other options besides that one state. State of the Snow White Princesses Far Away from any Black-Eyed Peas.

Everyone else can live where they'd like, also. Even the most vocal "we need our safe space" minorities wouldn't mind living in a mixed-race STATE, or a mixed-race CITY, if not a mixed-race neighborhood. Woik it out, people.
I don't think she understands how fast tens of millions of white people would move to a state guaranteed to be all-white. Nor does she likely understand how that state would rapidly begin to significantly outperform the rest of the country, or how many non-whites would be clamoring to be permitted entry.

After all, diversity means nothing more than chasing down white people in an attempt to escape the negative consequences of being surrounded by your own kind. It's Magic Dirt theory in action.

The sad thing is that we used to have such a reservation. It was called "America". Only whites, specifically those of English descent, were truly and properly considered American; that is why all other types of "Americans" are hyphenated or otherwise modified, including "Native Americans".

(We American Indians are better understood as pre-Americans in this regard; the concept is concerned with the nation, not the continent.)

But, rightly or wrongly, the system was designed to permit other whites to become quasi-Americans, which more or less worked until the voluntary nation was transformed into a conventional empire by the force of arms. Which took place, it should not surprise you to know, with considerable assistance from recent immigrants forced into military service.

I find it both mystifying and amusing that even as many white Americans today lament the disappearance of their rights, the destruction of their communities, and the decline of their society, they continue to cling to the cretinous myth of equality and the equally nonsensical concept of a propositional nation that is, more than anything else, responsible for the very transformations they rightly decry.

That is why they fully deserve what they are experiencing, and what they are going to experience in the future. It makes absolutely no sense to mourn the decline of America while celebrating equality, diversity, and immigration because it is equality, diversity, and immigration that are the primary causal factors in that decline.

To quote the great angelic philosopher, Tila Tequila, "People are all angry about what's happening but guess what? It's called karma! You cannot stop what is coming for YOU created it!"

UPDATE: A reader points out that there are plenty of American blacks who would like to prefer to have their own homogeneous nation-state too.
Babu Omowale, the so-called national minister of defense for the People’s New Black Panther Party, says his group and allied organizations have their sights set on establishing “our own government in a nation within a nation.” Omowale used the interview to claim five states as belonging to the “Black Nation”: Louisiana, Mississippi, South Carolina, Alabama, and Georgia.

The revolutionary stated: “We just need to start migrating back to those states and taking control of the economics in those states. If black people move in, most definitely white people will move out. So it’s not a hard process for us to have our own country within a country.”
I suspect a lot of white Americans would take that deal. After all, only a true racist would oppose African-Americans getting their own sovereign and independent homeland. It's time for whites to stop oppressing blacks by ruling over them, which is nothing less than a legacy of slavery. It's time for a national referendum on #Blaxit.

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Blogger Aeoli Pera July 11, 2016 8:14 AM  

We know the global elites are trying to exterminate whites. They don't even keep it secret. The worst thing to do is put them all in one place.

You can't always run. Sometimes you have to stick. I know conflict is a frightening idea for nice hwhite people but delaying the problem is not a solution.

Blogger Human Animal July 11, 2016 8:22 AM  

Red Nationalist talks Race Realism and tops it off with a Tila Tequila quote? Must Alt Right.

But in the Spirit of Nunavut, the White state would probably be Alaska. It certainly wouldn't be Hawaii.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan July 11, 2016 8:27 AM  

It's a lot, lot easier to talk freedom from whatever ails you, but conservatives love them the honey trap of discussing issues with what amounts to are representatives of cargo cults in which we are chained to in this country.

Take an example about the never ending interest in blacks (which I lack), it is black this, black that, even contards take to virtue signaling like pigeons to popcorn about black, black, black.

How about freedom from black? If you want to hear whine, mention that.

Blogger Robert Divinity July 11, 2016 8:30 AM  

It is richly ironic that the white upper and upper middle classes, the ones most likely to praise the banalities of multiculturalism, diversity and immigration, are the ones most successful at self-segregation. We need to develop strategies to allow working and middle class whites to do the same thing, and thwart government policies to undermine where they have successfully done so. The latter is about to come a really big thing.

Blogger Alexander July 11, 2016 8:42 AM  

Guys I know it looks bad. But if we just bring in more Mexicans, Muslims, and Africans to diversify America from the bottom; and more East Asians and Jews to diversify America from the top...

... It'll totally work out fine. Even if not for you then your wife's son.

Blogger MATT July 11, 2016 8:44 AM  

People confused about the concept of nation need only look at the many high Indian blood Mexicans, Peruvians, etc. who don't call themselves Incan or Mayan. Even La Raza with all their B.S. only passively admire and identify themselves with Atzlan.

In the end, as has been mentioned here, in a diverse state, your skin is your uniform. Does it matter that I'm 25% Mexican and 25% Puerto Rican, with what likely amounts to a mix of roughly 20% of native blood? No, I'm pale, blonde, blue eyed and almost 6'.

Stick to your kind. And stick to your family first and foremost.

Blogger CM July 11, 2016 8:48 AM  

Wwiii on one continent. We'll all be here.

I guess Asia and Europe thought we had it too good the first 2 rounds.

Anonymous johnc July 11, 2016 8:48 AM  

I think what would happen though is this "white state" would be forced to pay some ridiculous burden of federal taxes to pay for all the poor states and "education" and all the other things we currently have to pay for. The idea of leaving people alone to perform their best is anathema to a Marxist.

Blogger toadbile July 11, 2016 8:49 AM  

Considering that the only industry in Gaza and Pakistan is building rockets and death squads to kill their neighbors, i do not like the idea of all black states sitting just across the imaginary border. They'll wallow in squalor, blame us for their hunger and dance in their unpaved streets whenever one of them manages to sneak over to the white sector and strangle a baby.

And i cannot think of a single USA state that i would sacrifice to such debasement by depriving it of the benefits of white people and civilization.

Blogger KJ July 11, 2016 8:52 AM  

Adding to historical immigration changes. The waves of Prussians in the late 19th century probably contributed to public schooling being instituted, and the Scandinavians and Irish were helpful for getting socialist ideas integrated. Immigration has been used as a tool to clobber the working and entrepreneurial people of the US for well over 100 years.

Blogger haus frau July 11, 2016 8:52 AM  

If minorities, especially blacks, didn't commit crimes at such high rates then white people wouldn't have any problem living near them. Police your own people IreneAthena.
As it is whites can't even have their own golf clubs without blacks demanding entrance, yet I don't' see any whites demanding to be part of black projects, clubs, whatever.

Blogger Ben Cohen July 11, 2016 8:53 AM  

Read Cuckservative and can't argue with it. Being Jewish (80% Italian) I'm not American. The problem is that Israel doesn't accept immigrants as truly Israeli and they view the immigrant as a sucker to be exploited, unfortunately. And who wants to live around Muslims?

Blogger Starbuck July 11, 2016 8:54 AM  

What we need is a separate state--just one ought to do it -- reserved for Whites who can't manage to live in the same state with any of the other races. If whites want to live in such an exclusive setting, they may, but they'll have no other options besides that one state. State of the Snow White Princesses Far Away from any Black-Eyed Peas. - Some Person

What are these non-whites going to do when the whites in this one state decide to conquer their former territory? Cry about how mean whites are?

Anonymous Faceless July 11, 2016 8:59 AM  

It would be great for her to get specific about which state. The secret there will be that she'll refuse even a single state for the specific needs of a single person who isn't one of her hated group. To name it is to make it concrete is to admit that there should be such an enclave, which isn't the point, is it? The real answers for the only states this could be: Texas or California (maybe Florida, but then you'd want to annex Georgia and Alabama). Then, she'd be fearful it would be like the slave trade moving people out of there who failed the one drop test.

OpenID paworldandtimes July 11, 2016 9:05 AM  

It would be great for her to get specific about which state.

I propose starting with Nova Europa on THIS MAP

PA

Anonymous NZT July 11, 2016 9:10 AM  

By all means let's carry out this plan. We can call the new white nation... oh... how about the Northwest American Republic?

Blogger Lazarus July 11, 2016 9:10 AM  

The revolutionary stated: “We just need to start migrating back to those states and taking control of the economics in those states.

They could call it New Liberia. One big economic powerhouse, comin' up.

I think Nate might have something to say about all this.

Anonymous Geretrudis July 11, 2016 9:12 AM  

The Pacific Northwest is the place and various groups of whites have already started migrating. Come Home, white people.

Anonymous BGKB July 11, 2016 9:12 AM  

And if any part of the Whites Only State is in Texas, the rest of us get to annex Austin.

Austin didn't have many blacks before Katrina. Without section 8 you would be lucky to get a one way buss pass out of it.

If whites want to live in such an exclusive setting, they may, but they'll have no other options besides that one state.

So when the only whites you have are govt. workers & mudsharks who will keep the lights on?

I propose starting with Nova Europa on THIS MAP

Your Mordor should encompass Baltimore

I think Nate might have something to say about all this.

Maybe the majik dirt that has blacks behave in his area will work.

Blogger Adam July 11, 2016 9:17 AM  

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Anonymous bluto July 11, 2016 9:18 AM  

As much as I would enjoy hearing the stories from the proposed new nation's management of the Old River Control Structure, I don't think control of the Mississippi is a gift the US would give away.

Blogger James Dixon July 11, 2016 9:18 AM  

From http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=93608

"Maine, Vermont and New Hampshire all have mostly white populations — in fact, at least 96 percent of the population of each state is white."

"In all, 10 states are more than 90 percent white, including the three northern New England states, West Virginia, Iowa, Wyoming, Idaho, Montana, Kentucky and North Dakota."

You can practically hear the condemnation dripping from their text.

They state this is from the 2000 census. The site http://www.indexmundi.com/facts/united-states/quick-facts/all-states/white-population-percentage claims to have 2013 data. They show that Montana and Kentucky have dropped out of the 90% club and are in the high 80's.

So majority white dominated states exist. Obama is doing his best to fix that "problem" though.

Blogger haus frau July 11, 2016 9:19 AM  

"What's all this about designating one state, or five, and forcing all the blacks to move there? That idea smacks of the slave trade, with Africans being dragged away from their familiar homes and forced to live in places not of their choosing."

So it's ok to evict minorities from at least one state?

Blogger SS July 11, 2016 9:19 AM  

A reader points out that there are plenty of American blacks who would like to prefer to have their own homogeneous nation-state too.

Primary products will be cotton and mud huts. What happens when we go all synthetic fiber?

Blogger Caladan July 11, 2016 9:20 AM  

What about the 2 percent of blacks who are conservatives in America?

Will they also be denied entry from the white ethno-state?

OpenID paworldandtimes July 11, 2016 9:20 AM  

Your Mordor should encompass Baltimore

As a friend pointed out, Mordor on my map does look like a nasty splotch of melanoma that will spread if not excised.

PA

Blogger SS July 11, 2016 9:23 AM  

toadbile wrote:Considering that the only industry in Gaza and Pakistan is building rockets and death squads to kill their neighbors, i do not like the idea of all black states sitting just across the imaginary border. They'll wallow in squalor, blame us for their hunger and dance in their unpaved streets whenever one of them manages to sneak over to the white sector and strangle a baby.

And i cannot think of a single USA state that i would sacrifice to such debasement by depriving it of the benefits of white people and civilization.

Just say Alabama to piss off Nate

OpenID paworldandtimes July 11, 2016 9:23 AM  

What about the 2 percent of blacks who are conservatives in America?

The Untalented 90% will need all of the Talented Tenth they can get to get their new country up and running.

PA

Blogger Human Animal July 11, 2016 9:24 AM  

The Pacific Northwest is the place and various groups of whites have already started migrating. Come Home, white people.

Except lots are shit libs who cannot be redpilled, even by ethnic gang rape. Nice climate though.

Blogger Achilles July 11, 2016 9:24 AM  

Why would blacks want a couple states in the South when they can have a whole continent. Petition the government for grievances. The Feds can lease a cruise ship and send them to Liberia in luxury. In exchange they renounce American citizenship. Time for a second look at the Back to Africa movement.

Blogger Zaklog the Great July 11, 2016 9:25 AM  

We just need to start migrating back to those states and taking control of the economics in those states.

Yup, and then they can all be just as happy, safe, and prosperous as Detroit!

Blogger JACIII July 11, 2016 9:26 AM  

They wouldn't be happy in the South. Can we get them to take NY and Chicago? All those big Shiney northern cities they love.

Anonymous Dr. G. Ghaboo July 11, 2016 9:26 AM  

The time for separation has likely come. All Americans should be given to opportunity to vote yea or nay to Blaxit.

Blogger JACIII July 11, 2016 9:27 AM  

They wouldn't be happy in the South. Can we get them to take NY and Chicago? All those big Shiney northern cities they love.

Blogger Dexter July 11, 2016 9:28 AM  

Omowale used the interview to claim five states as belonging to the “Black Nation”: Louisiana, Mississippi, South Carolina, Alabama, and Georgia.

Haw. Good riddance. Move all blacks there, give them "independence", and wall off the border.

Except they would not be "independent" because the parasite cannot survive without its host. The "independent" Black Nation would demand perpetual "reparations" from the remaining United States.

Blogger Dexter July 11, 2016 9:28 AM  

All Americans should be given to opportunity to vote yea or nay to Blaxit.

I'd buy that for a dollar!

Blogger Caladan July 11, 2016 9:29 AM  

@28

Now, that is simply cruel. They'll likely be killed for their wrongthink- sensible social and economic policies.

High IQ blacks tend to flee countries run by their fellow blacks. That's why those countries will remain to be shitholes; because all the people who can improve things have gone.

http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/africaatlse/2016/01/18/how-severe-is-africas-brain-drain/

I'd rather not see intelligent people get shot in the state wide crime fest that would likely be an American ethno state.

Blogger Caladan July 11, 2016 9:29 AM  

*Black American ethno state*

Blogger CarpeOro July 11, 2016 9:30 AM  

@17 & 18
Have I been asleep for a decade? Last I heard the Pac NW is hipster, SWPL, Cuck territory. Times two.

@19
Baltimore, aka Minas Morgul.

Anonymous FAILBOAT July 11, 2016 9:35 AM  

http://www.pbs.org/independentlens/films/welcome-to-leith/

You're both wrong. Nobody moved there, because those people are weird, and it was broken by the cops and the neighbors. Want to live surrounded by whites and token striver-minorities? Try an expensive neighborhood in a large city like SF (been a while, I think the Asians have moved in, so you might need to go for somewhere else) and just never visit the darker sections.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan July 11, 2016 9:36 AM  

I agree racial separation is fine and perhaps an idea whose time has come, but I would first start with mercilessly mocking "Virtue Signaling." So abuse "Virtue Signaling" and then you cut the legs out from under the half wits who will undercut you for a pat on the head, call these peoples "Cucks."

I love the term "Blaxit", genius.

Blogger VD July 11, 2016 9:38 AM  

What about the 2 percent of blacks who are conservatives in America?

What about them?

Will they also be denied entry from the white ethno-state?

Obviously. What part of "white ethno-state" did you not understand? A "conservative proposition-state" is not the subject.

Blogger Lazarus July 11, 2016 9:41 AM  

Dexter wrote:Except they would not be "independent" because the parasite cannot survive without its host. The "independent" Black Nation would demand perpetual "reparations" from the remaining United States.

Not only reparations, but restitutions! and monies! and free land!

Its called Ebconomics.


For now, however, Omowale says the goals are more short-term:

There is no way that we can totally separate ourselves in the United States of America and we are aware of that. We know that we are owed land, we are owed monies, we are owed restitutions and we are owed reparations. That’s going to be a continuing process. What we are saying right now is we want to control the economics in our community. We want to control the black dollars. The money that goes in, the money that goes out.

Blogger Alexamenos July 11, 2016 9:43 AM  

Segregation, coming soon to a nation near you.

Blogger Al From Bay Shore July 11, 2016 9:48 AM  

@25
Conservative/ libertarian Blacks will be just fine.

Blogger YIH July 11, 2016 9:48 AM  

Another thing she doesn't seem to get is if a state, or more correctly a clump of adjacent states, became Whitetopia, there are a significant (if not substantial) number of non-Whites that would have to be expelled. Along with the SJWs and cucks.
Also in the US, what qualifies as ''White''?
Jews? Quite a bit of debate on that one, there are more than a few Whites that say: No, those are a different race, by their own admission. ''fine by me, look White to me'' isn't acceptable. And besides, they have a ''Jews-only'' homeland already.
Native (North) Americans? Hmm, Vox?
Other mixes, like pet niglet owners, or worse, coalburners?
She makes it sound so simple, like someone with a simple mind.

Anonymous BGKB July 11, 2016 9:51 AM  

Have I been asleep for a decade? Last I heard the Pac NW is hipster, SWPL, Cuck territory. Times two.

Look up the Northwest Redoubt- James Rawles. It ignores the west parts of Oregon & Washington as everything west of I-5 might fall into the sea.

Blogger VD July 11, 2016 9:52 AM  

Native (North) Americans? Hmm, Vox?

We have our own reservations. They need to be considerably larger, as per the original agreements, so split the current Federal land with us and we'll call it a deal.

Blogger VD July 11, 2016 9:53 AM  

Conservative/ libertarian Blacks will be just fine.

Only if they don't reproduce. The problem isn't in the mind, it's in the genes.

Blogger SS July 11, 2016 9:55 AM  

VD wrote:Native (North) Americans? Hmm, Vox?

We have our own reservations. They need to be considerably larger, as per the original agreements, so split the current Federal land with us and we'll call it a deal.


At last he admits it. All this signalling to the white community all these years has all been about REPARATIONS FOR INDIANS

Blogger Teri July 11, 2016 9:55 AM  

It depends. The cities are bad but the countryside is mostly conservative. The Libs are hard at work setting up one party rule.

Anonymous andon July 11, 2016 9:56 AM  

what if you paid blacks to resettle in Africa?

how much would it take to get say 90% to leave - $100,000 each?

Blogger SS July 11, 2016 9:57 AM  

@52 andon, who needs that, they'll settle for a case of grape drank and bus fare

OpenID paworldandtimes July 11, 2016 9:58 AM  

Have I been asleep for a decade? Last I heard the Pac NW is hipster, SWPL, Cuck territory. Times two.

Like Kurt Cobain, they're vikings who've come to the end of the Earth and ask "now what"? Nova Europa needs Shitlord leaders, that's all.

PA

OpenID bc64a9f8-765e-11e3-8683-000bcdcb2996 July 11, 2016 9:59 AM  

Are we to understand that Liberia is no longer suitable as a "special" place set aside for Negros to self sequester?
Oh, SOME want to ReLo into an apparent turn key, gated, fully furnished, beach front, property, with
Gub'mint coastal/ protections included?
I've never seen an entire state hold a rent/electric party before.
CaptDMO

Blogger Josh July 11, 2016 10:00 AM  

I propose starting with Nova Europa on THIS MAP

Why didn't you include an independent Dixie on your map?

Anonymous Rhetoric Man July 11, 2016 10:01 AM  

“I don't think she understands how fast tens of millions of white people would move to a state guaranteed to be all-white.”

COULD move. In the end, each white person will make their own decisions regarding how they view their racial composition and their nation.

“Only whites, specifically those of English descent, were truly and properly considered American.”

ORIGINALLY, it was those of English descent, then as intermarriage of English and non-English perpetuated in the colonies, the concept of American changed to reflect the current, and future, generations. It will always be that way.

“It makes absolutely no sense to mourn the decline of America while celebrating equality, diversity, and immigration because it is equality, diversity, and immigration that are the primary causal factors in that decline.”



Debatable whether they are primary factors.

“A reader points out that there are plenty of American blacks who would like to prefer to have their own homogeneous nation-state too.”

“Plenty” is rather vague. Besides, does the Black Panther Party speak for each individual black, or for their own group?

MATT...

“In the end, as has been mentioned here, in a diverse state, your skin is your uniform.”


Nope. One’s uniform is their faith. Religion trumps race EVERY time.


James Dixon...

"In all, 10 states are more than 90 percent white, including the three northern New England states, West Virginia, Iowa, Wyoming, Idaho, Montana, Kentucky and North Dakota."



Which doesn’t necessarily mean that the whites living there are anti-white or refuse to or choose not to associate with non-whites.

Blogger Human Animal July 11, 2016 10:02 AM  

At last he admits it. All this signalling to the white community all these years has all been about REPARATIONS FOR INDIANS

Between America and Canada, there's a surplus of land. And there will be for a very long time, so long as we're willing to defend the borders.

Blogger Al From Bay Shore July 11, 2016 10:05 AM  

@49
We'll reproduce but it only takes a small segment of society to effect change. I'd like to believe that an entirely Black context would yield the type of change akin to secession from Britain. I think a small segment of the colonial population participated in that radical Whig movement which wrought the Declaration of Independence and the Articles of Confederation. I don't see how the low class Negroes can launch a counter-revolution in the same way the Coastal elites (Federalists) did when they succeeded in having the Constitution ratified.

Blogger Josh July 11, 2016 10:06 AM  


At last he admits it. All this signalling to the white community all these years has all been about REPARATIONS FOR INDIANS


They already got casinos

Blogger Josh July 11, 2016 10:09 AM  

And i cannot think of a single USA state that i would sacrifice to such debasement by depriving it of the benefits of white people and civilization.

California, Illinois, Ohio, Pennsylvania, New York, New Jersey, New England...

Blogger Cecil Henry July 11, 2016 10:12 AM  

NO. This state is called the WEST.

And there are lots of states who will serve this purpose.

OpenID paworldandtimes July 11, 2016 10:12 AM  

Why didn't you include an independent Dixie on your map?

I decided to keep the "USA" portion of the emergent divisions in a shape that in retrospect turned out to resemble the footprint of the original 13 colonies. While the area is comprised of several distinct American nations, it was my gut feeling that at least based on the nearly monolithic Trump votes in the GOP primaries, the new smaller USA has the potential to stay as one country, given looser federalization.

While drawing that map, I was also impressed with blogger Agnostic's observations that the new national divide is more east/west rather that north/south.

PA

Blogger YIH July 11, 2016 10:12 AM  

Omowale used the interview to claim five states as belonging to the “Black Nation”: Louisiana, Mississippi, South Carolina, Alabama, and Georgia.
Again, there would be substantial expulsions and transfers. Would Nate ''just leave quietly''? Or David Duke?
If that were to happen, the perfect name for such a ''black homeland'' (Uh, they have a whole continent for a ''black homeland'') would be ''West Haiti''. Because that's what it would quickly become... Or ''South Detroit''.

Anonymous William Trent July 11, 2016 10:12 AM  

We have our own reservations. They need to be considerably larger, as per the original agreements, so split the current Federal land with us and we'll call it a deal.

Would you settle for a truckload of slightly used blankets?

Blogger Elocutioner July 11, 2016 10:13 AM  

It's not the ideal long term solution, but there are roughly 486M acres in Mexico. We win the war being waged on us by Mexico, deport the blacks to the conquered country of Afro-Mexico along with all the conquered Mexicans, and build the wall 10 feet taller. With manned turrets. That's roughly 10-12 acres per black person and all the Mexican drug mules they want. (Reduced from their mythical 40 acres demand due to reparations (welfare state), murders, incarceration costs, and inflation.) Hell, for that deal we'd be happy to pay for the wall ourselves.

Blogger Josh July 11, 2016 10:14 AM  

While the area is comprised of several distinct American nations, it was my gut feeling that at least based on the nearly monolithic Trump votes in the GOP primaries, the new smaller USA has the potential to stay as one country, given looser federalization.

While drawing that map, I was also impressed with blogger Agnostic's observations that the new national divide is more east/west rather that north/south.


Have you ever actually stepped foot in a single southern state?

If the USA breaks apart, we're leaving too.

Anonymous S E Delenda July 11, 2016 10:16 AM  

What happens to Asians?

Anonymous andon July 11, 2016 10:16 AM  

@ #57 “In the end, as has been mentioned here, in a diverse state, your skin is your uniform.”


Nope. One’s uniform is their faith. Religion trumps race EVERY time.


you keep claiming this but my guess is you're wrong. i was raised a Catholic (and for now im an atheist) but im not interested in hanging around say Christian blacks or hispanics. I would much rather include NE Asians in my group of friends, no matter their religion.

Blogger Josh July 11, 2016 10:17 AM  

What happens to Asians?

Asian women will marry the alt right Aryan ubermensch

Anonymous fop July 11, 2016 10:19 AM  

Why didn't you include an independent Dixie on your map?

Because they still can't agree on whether the legislature will meet at Stuckey's or Hooters.

Blogger Human Animal July 11, 2016 10:23 AM  

What happens to Asians?
Their numbers will be kept in check by Indian Casinos.

Anonymous andon July 11, 2016 10:23 AM  

@ #57

“I don't think she understands how fast tens of millions of white people would move to a state guaranteed to be all-white.”

COULD move. In the end, each white person will make their own decisions regarding how they view their racial composition and their nation.


lol, thanks for clarifying. perhaps they'll need to consult you first?

Blogger YIH July 11, 2016 10:25 AM  

VD wrote:Native (North) Americans? Hmm, Vox?

We have our own reservations. They need to be considerably larger, as per the original agreements, so split the current Federal land with us and we'll call it a deal.

Fair enough. Also, they run it as a true separate, independent nation - or plural as the case may be. No handouts, no reparations, but complete autonomy as to control of borders and internal administration.

Blogger Dave July 11, 2016 10:25 AM  

William Trent wrote:Would you settle for a truckload of slightly used blankets?

We'll even throw in some beads; beads are good. Maybe some firewater for some squaws.

Blogger Dave July 11, 2016 10:28 AM  

What's gonna be the minimum IQ required to settle in this white state?

Anonymous Great Again July 11, 2016 10:32 AM  

VD wrote:
To quote the great angelic philosopher, Tila Tequila


I laughed so hard, I nearly spit out my drink all over the keyboard.

Blogger SS July 11, 2016 10:32 AM  

@76 - there's no IQ minimum, there's a melanin maximum

Anonymous Culture Heretic July 11, 2016 10:34 AM  

Rhetoric Man is an infamous troll, he went by 6 different sockpuppets on UncleBob's Treehouse blog, he's fond of using the socratic method (quite badly alot of the time) and no matter what the sockpuppet he uses, it's always the same aspergers like posting style.

OpenID paworldandtimes July 11, 2016 10:35 AM  

What happens to Asians?

My world atlas shows this big landmass on the far side of the Pacific ocean...

Look folks: Americans' ingrained worldview is the stupid notion that to respect someone's humanity you must include him in your country. It's time to unlearn that. From Ellis Island onward, the concept of americanhood was additive. Time to shift into subtractive mode.


PA

Blogger Escoffier July 11, 2016 10:37 AM  

YIH wrote:Another thing she doesn't seem to get is if a state, or more correctly a clump of adjacent states, became Whitetopia, there are a significant (if not substantial) number of non-Whites that would have to be expelled. Along with the SJWs and cucks.

Also in the US, what qualifies as ''White''?

Jews? Quite a bit of debate on that one, there are more than a few Whites that say: No, those are a different race, by their own admission. ''fine by me, look White to me'' isn't acceptable. And besides, they have a ''Jews-only'' homeland already.

Native (North) Americans? Hmm, Vox?

Other mixes, like pet niglet owners, or worse, coalburners?

She makes it sound so simple, like someone with a simple mind.


Damn me as a cock eyed optimist if you must but I tend to think this is overblown. People instinctively know their own. I do, don't you?

Blogger justthinkin July 11, 2016 10:41 AM  

"Nope. One’s uniform is their faith. Religion trumps race EVERY time." Do you consider Rev. Jeremiah Wright and Rev. Billy Graham of the same faith?

"There is no way that we can totally separate ourselves in the United States of America and we are aware of that. We know that we are owed land, we are owed monies, we are owed restitutions and we are owed reparations. That’s going to be a continuing process." Ah, now here it is.

"They wouldn't be happy in the South. Can we get them to take NY and Chicago? All those big Shiney northern cities they love." Agree. Besides, the beauty of the Great Smokies is lost on them.



Blogger justthinkin July 11, 2016 10:41 AM  

"Nope. One’s uniform is their faith. Religion trumps race EVERY time." Do you consider Rev. Jeremiah Wright and Rev. Billy Graham of the same faith?

"There is no way that we can totally separate ourselves in the United States of America and we are aware of that. We know that we are owed land, we are owed monies, we are owed restitutions and we are owed reparations. That’s going to be a continuing process." Ah, now here it is.

"They wouldn't be happy in the South. Can we get them to take NY and Chicago? All those big Shiney northern cities they love." Agree. Besides, the beauty of the Great Smokies is lost on them.



Blogger Escoffier July 11, 2016 10:42 AM  

IreneAthena: "That idea smacks of the slave trade, with Africans being dragged away from their familiar homes and forced to live in places not of their choosing."

I was a little surprised no one noted that, no, this doesn't resemble the African slave trade, not even a little bit.

There is a world of difference between being sold to Muslim salve traders by the elders of your village for profit and people protecting themselves from the depredations of a violent subset of people living among them.

Blogger Human Animal July 11, 2016 10:45 AM  

There is a world of difference between being sold to Muslim salve traders by the elders of your village for profit and people protecting themselves from the depredations of a violent subset of people living among them.

Maybe that was the point in the first place: Sell the least useful, the most discontent.

Blogger Salt July 11, 2016 10:48 AM  

BGKB wrote:I think Nate might have something to say about all this.

Maybe the majik dirt that has blacks behave in his area will work.


Nate would probably end up running it all.

Anonymous andon July 11, 2016 10:50 AM  

@ #84 - yeah, I thought that was odd too

"slave trade" lol

Blogger YIH July 11, 2016 10:51 AM  

VD wrote:Conservative/ libertarian Blacks will be just fine.

Only if they don't reproduce. The problem isn't in the mind, it's in the genes.

Years ago Robert S. Oculus III had a blog (since deleted) which had a fictional account of a White vs black race war. Those posts have likely been incorporated into The White Book (which doesn't seem to be on Amazon or anywhere else now).
In it, he describes Whites withdrawing into defensible areas with little or no help from the government or it's ''law enforcement''.
In one such area, a single black family who have 'integrated' (think Herman Cain, Thomas Sowell, ect) goes from 'just a family in the neighborhood' to effectively become Prisoners Of War, not allowed to contribute to defense or maintenance of the White region but otherwise treated well. When hostilities end, with (his term) ''reseg'' the 'integrated' black family is expelled.

Blogger Rusty Fife July 11, 2016 10:52 AM  

Rhetoric Man wrote:“In the end, as has been mentioned here, in a diverse state, your skin is your uniform.”


Nope. One’s uniform is their faith. Religion trumps race EVERY time.


Again with The Inquisition?

Blogger Harleyrose59 July 11, 2016 10:52 AM  

This is a dangerously ignorant subset of unevolved humanity.
And they are controlled by a dangerously intelligent subset of self-declared superiors!
They are absolutely ate up with envy and malice toward those who feed them and allow them to exist among us. They want our intelligence, our success, our accomplishments! They have stated they will kill us for them.
It just goes into the stratosphere of Bizarro World! Their own nation? They haven't even figured out how to put on the pants we gave them yet...

Anonymous Cheddarman July 11, 2016 10:53 AM  

Shit gonna get real once the phony prosperity of the Great Bubble evaporates

Anonymous ZhukovG July 11, 2016 10:54 AM  

If and when the Southern Confederacy is restored; some number of Southern Blacks may be permitted to remain provided they behave themselves. Likewise, Whites of northern ancestry must be similarly scrutinized and largely expelled. One test for northern Whites who wish to stay in the South, could be to ritually curse the name of Abraham Lincoln and then kiss a golden replica of Robert E. Lee’s ass. Initially, the right to vote should be limited to those whites whose Southern ancestry dates to the ante-bellum period.

Traditional Southern Protestant churches, such as the Southern Baptist Convention, should be given preferential treatment under the law. My own church, Roman Catholic, should be restricted in its activities.

Blogger Robert Divinity July 11, 2016 10:56 AM  

Shit gonna get real once the phony prosperity of the Great Bubble evaporates

It isn't just the Constitution being ghost-danced. Shit is happening now because the bubble popped long ago for many, including the white working class masses. When it trickles up to the upper middle class virtue-signalers, shit will be attempted with government approval. Good luck with that.

Anonymous FP July 11, 2016 10:59 AM  

"We have our own reservations. They need to be considerably larger, as per the original agreements, so split the current Federal land with us and we'll call it a deal."

You have your casino monopolies red man. That is enough.

Blogger Josh July 11, 2016 10:59 AM  

Again with The Inquisition?

He didn't think anyone would expect it.

Blogger Harleyrose59 July 11, 2016 11:00 AM  

The American blacks are the weakest of the African genes. Their ancestors were the weakest, dumbest, and most easily vanquished to be sold into slavery.
Not real difficult to see when Reps. Lewis, Rangel and Sheila (is the American flag still planted on Mars?) Jackson-Lee are the cream of the crop!

Blogger Edward Isaacs July 11, 2016 11:02 AM  

What would happen to interracial married couples, also, their half breed offspring? I don't see anything immoral about ethno states but breaking up families is another matter.

Blogger VD July 11, 2016 11:08 AM  

What would happen to interracial married couples, also, their half breed offspring? I don't see anything immoral about ethno states but breaking up families is another matter.

Expelled or shot as collaborators, if history is any guide. Before you engage in the usual bathos, consider that they could have paid attention to the entire history of Man, or listened to their "racist" parents, before deciding to cash in on the 2 extra points of sexual market value another race was willing to grant them.

I doubt there will be an actual one-drop rule, but you never know.

Blogger praetorian July 11, 2016 11:08 AM  

My own church, Roman Catholic, should be restricted in its activities.

To modify a top 100 VP comment: there will always be a place for catholics in America, and that place is Maryland.

Blogger Cail Corishev July 11, 2016 11:08 AM  

Babu Omowale, the so-called national minister of defense for the People’s New Black Panther Party, says his group and allied organizations have their sights set on establishing “our own government in a nation within a nation.”

He's not stupid: he doesn't want a separate, independent nation; he wants one that exists within a successful nation it can leech from. I guess he looks at Indian reservations and thinks that looks like a pretty sweet deal.

Anonymous kfg July 11, 2016 11:09 AM  

"Nova Europa needs Shitlord leaders, that's all."

They'll get them from the Panhandle, western Montana and perhaps Wyoming. The Frontier will conquer Nova Europa.

The Trumping Realignment map is interesting. It is close to (I could think of it as a way point) my own predictions of how the US would break up into new countries.

Texas will take Kansas as well.

Chicagoland (Illinois, Indiana, Michigan and Ohio) will absorb Williams Syndrome.

New New England (Olde New England, New York, Pennsylvania and New Jersey) and Dixie will split.

Blogger Nate July 11, 2016 11:10 AM  

***chuckle***

Yeah... whites in Alabama and Georgia and Mississippi are totally gonna just hand over the states to blacks.

There are a ton of problems with this moron's plan... but among the biggest is the fact that a lot of american blacks prefer to vote for whites... because they know how corrupt black politicians are.

Anonymous andon July 11, 2016 11:12 AM  

97. Blogger Edward Isaacs July 11, 2016 11:02 AM
What would happen to interracial married couples, also, their half breed offspring? I don't see anything immoral about ethno states but breaking up families is another matter.


YOU'S BREAKING UP FAMILIES!!

(ok if I send you my 50,000 unescorted children now?)

Blogger szopen July 11, 2016 11:14 AM  

Orania. Kleinfontein. In a country, where black-white relations are much more strained, and where you would expects to have tens and tens of thousands, not 2k+ inhabitants. But, as usual, people are sheep and all talk an no action.

Blogger Huggums July 11, 2016 11:18 AM  

"Conservative/ libertarian Blacks will be just fine.

Only if they don't reproduce. The problem isn't in the mind, it's in the genes."

- VD

Why in the hell should they not reproduce? I don't see how you come to this conclusion considering all of the other things you've written. In particular I'm talking about your "time-to-civilization" hypothesis. How is removing the genes of conservative black people supposed to improve anything for anyone.

Anonymous ZhukovG July 11, 2016 11:18 AM  

@99 For Southerners who are Roman Catholic, I was thinking Louisiana and possibly Florida. Of course if the New CSA annexes Cuba, that has possibilities as well.

Anonymous cheddarman July 11, 2016 11:22 AM  

In these pre-apocalyptic times, one always needs to be aware of emerging economic opportunities. I plan to start a franchise of for profit mobile petting zoos, where the franchise owner or their agent transports vibrant children out to the vanilla exburbs for day trips. A number of different virtue signaling interactions with the vibrants will be offered.

Blogger VD July 11, 2016 11:24 AM  

Why in the hell should they not reproduce? I don't see how you come to this conclusion considering all of the other things you've written. In particular I'm talking about your "time-to-civilization" hypothesis. How is removing the genes of conservative black people supposed to improve anything for anyone.

Regression to the mean, mate. Removing the genes of conservative black people improves things for white people because, desirable as they are in the black population, they are still not white genes. In fact, it is the black ethno-state that desperately needs them.

A white ethno-state isn't going to want any blacks, Asians, or anyone else for the same reason Israel doesn't let Christians and Muslims and Hindus settle there. It would defeat the purpose.

Don't feel bad, depending upon where they draw the DNA line, I'm out too. It's always a mistake to consider macro issues from a micro perspective.

Blogger Feather Blade July 11, 2016 11:24 AM  

@39 The west coast - past the Cascades - is, as are large portions of the university towns between the Cascades and the Rockies. Everyone else in the intermontane region is farmers, ranchers, loggers and miners.

Even in some of the university towns, though, local Christendom is having good success preventing economic and (local) government oppression and harassment.

Blogger Sheila4g July 11, 2016 11:28 AM  

As so many others have noted, any split will result in multiple new nations - perhaps one all Negro, one pure White, one 85% White and 15% high achiever/striker "others," etc. People know where they belong; if they don't, they'll soon learn in the new race-realist world. The eternal issue will be protecting one's borders and ceasing any economic reparations or assistance (which will be eternally demanded). As the White nations will vastly outperform the others, there will be increasing demands for assistance or entry of IKAGOs. There will also be a constant need in the White and mostly White nations to either re-educate or expel nascent cucks.

Blogger The Other Robot July 11, 2016 11:30 AM  

The problem is that whites in those states will fight.

Perhaps they will even introduce Ebola ...

Blogger Dexter July 11, 2016 11:31 AM  

"That idea smacks of the slave trade, with Africans being dragged away from their familiar homes and forced to live in places not of their choosing."

With the obvious difference that in one case, they are being dragged somewhere because they are useful, and in the other, they are being dragged somewhere because they are useless.

Anonymous bw July 11, 2016 11:31 AM  

The Untalented 90% will need all of the Talented Tenth they can get to get their new country up and running PA

Exactly. They are going to work hard, sacrifice, practice family and mature time preferences etc for the sake of the children. They are going to make Africans great again....it is their moral and spiritual quest to be sure! Like Mike King said!

Except lots are shit libs who cannot be redpilled

This discounts the GAME of Nature.

Blogger jas On July 11, 2016 11:32 AM  

Just get out of the I5 corridor and it's not too bad. Everything between Portland and Ashland can be burned without a loss.

Anonymous Mr. Rational July 11, 2016 11:35 AM  

johnc wrote:I think what would happen though is this "white state" would be forced to pay some ridiculous burden of federal taxes to pay for all the poor states and "education" and all the other things we currently have to pay for.
It would be easy for the White state to go Galt.  Produce the minimum required to get by and just don't waste anything.  Use minimal-cost methods of education.  Spend time, not money that can be taxed.

Some of the highest-achieving school districts in the USA have very low per-pupil spending.  It's the Whites, stupid.

The idiocracy states would always be in a position of need.  Fine, let them trade land for what they want.  Help them along with sterilization of their troublesome members.  Soon their numbers and lands would be so tiny they would be irrelevant.

Blogger dc.sunsets July 11, 2016 11:36 AM  

Progressivism remains a suicide cult. Until it's repudiated the only wish is that its zealots hurry their own personal path's end.

We're due an historic, epic financial apocalypse given the unprecedented, exponential rise in credit-based (illusory) wealth.

When interest rates finally begin to rise in earnest we'll finally get some visibility on what's coming.

My guess is that people conditioned to dependency will go Full Chimpout, and those who previously carried the burden of supporting them out of a delusion of unlimited resources will respond with a complete pogrom, scorched earth and all.

Today's Progressivist dogma is ripe for a complete & total inversion.

Anonymous Jack Amok July 11, 2016 11:37 AM  

After all, diversity means nothing more than chasing down white people in an attempt to escape the negative consequences of being surrounded by your own kind. It's Magic Dirt theory in action.

Ah, so finally, a theory on how Magic Dirt is created. White people drip sweat on it.

Sadly, that just makes other people want to move there, it doesn't civilize them. That second step requires dripping lots of blood on the soil, more than we really want to.

Blogger JDC July 11, 2016 11:39 AM  

Because they still can't agree on whether the legislature will meet at Stuckey's or Hooters.

I think the confederacy already agreed on Waffle House.

Blogger dc.sunsets July 11, 2016 11:42 AM  

I never tire of recognizing that Leftism is 100% envy.

High IQ whites (descendants of mostly England & Northern Europe), especially men, are the geese who lay the golden eggs desired by all. Others CANNOT produce this, and so they devise endless rationalizations for their inability, and why they're entitled to take the product from (male) whites.

Seen this way, how pathetic are these creatures.

Blogger Huggums July 11, 2016 11:42 AM  

@108

Ok. I've misunderstood your statement. I thought you meant that black conservatives shouldn't reproduce even in an all-black state. My mistake. I've already accepted that we're probably heading for a segregated state. I don't think the black SJWs even fully understand that that's essentially what they're arguing for, but I digress. It is still sad. It's hard to imagine myself as anything but an American.

OpenID paworldandtimes July 11, 2016 11:45 AM  

High IQ whites (descendants of mostly England & Northern Europe), especially men, are the geese who lay the golden eggs desired by all.

Don't disregard the value that average-IQ competent tradesmen and even unskilled labor White people provide in vital support roles.

PA

Blogger YIH July 11, 2016 11:46 AM  

Cheddarman wrote:Shit gonna get real once the phony prosperity of the Great Bubble evaporates
Exactly. That's what's going to break up the American Empire. As I mentioned in the Star Citizen posts, Ponzi schemes are rarely broken up by the rule of law, they are fundamentally flawed and typically implode organically. At that point it's a Chapter 7 style involuntary bankruptcy - who gets how much of what's left. For example; Puerto Rico gets told, ''sorry, no bailout for you - you're on your own and good luck''.
Africans IN America get told ''Here's your 'homeland', it's currently called Mississippi, but you can name it whatever you want and you get whatever's already there with all the non-Africans evacuated - then you're on your own... Good luck''.
If you want optimism, I sincerely hope the ''lower 48'' (like Puerto Rico, Alaska and Hawaii will become castoffs) doesn't become Yugoslavia writ large.
Realistically, I suspect it's going to be Yugoslavia writ large.

Anonymous A.B. Prosper July 11, 2016 11:48 AM  

The easiest solution would be to push unwanted people regardless of race over the Mexican border wall.

Return the favor as it were.

After that reverse "carpet bag" and make the new ruling class during the interregnum entirely of the most based shitlords.

That should suffice till some new Constitution free of magic dirt and egalitarianism can be imposed.

If there isn't enough White manpower than take the lands most like our own native lands. Consider avoiding areas like the California Central Valley which while great agricultural land are also filled with toxic fungus Coccidioidomycosis.

This is around 75% of the current land mass.

Blogger Arthur Isaac July 11, 2016 11:53 AM  

"Chicagoland (Illinois, Indiana, Michigan and Ohio) will absorb Williams Syndrome."

Give up Michigan? The Great Lakes? Because we need to let the world's largest supply of fresh water turn into a 3rd world sewer?

Blogger Al From Bay Shore July 11, 2016 12:01 PM  

@119
Black SJWs are the descendants of what I describe as "codependent activism". "Codependent activism" is needing white folks to be Pro-Black. This is my entire problem with the Civil Rights movement, it needed whites to be "empowered" via integration even though Black folks, in their segregated state, had their own institutions which were based in the Black community (ie. HBCUs).

For Black SJWs, which is nearly the entirety of "Blacktivist" culture, Black existence only has meaning if white people can be attached to Black existence. Black on Black victimization is destroying Black folks but the Black SJW gives no attention to this. At best, they marginalize this problem. However, if white folks (or something percieved to have an attachment to whites) are involved in the victimization of a Black person then the Black SJW rolls out the red carpet. However, when the context is Black.... [crickets].

There is an expression in the Black community, "the white man's ice is colder". This summarizes the pathology that was not only the Civil Rights movement's insistence on "integration" but its ideological descendants, Black SJWs. Their anti-white rhetoric and behavior is, in my opinion, self hatred. It kinda reminds me of the commentaries that analyze "SWPLs".

Blogger Josh July 11, 2016 12:02 PM  

Africans IN America get told ''Here's your 'homeland', it's currently called Mississippi, but you can name it whatever you want and you get whatever's already there with all the non-Africans evacuated - then you're on your own... Good luck''.

When will you Yankee idiots learn...

We ain't evacuating, we ain't leaving. Ever.

Blogger kmbr July 11, 2016 12:04 PM  

Blaxit--that's beautiful.

I think the trick here is to get them (blacks) to demand it, convince them they are the ones calling for it.

My only question is this--what do we do with the highly functioning, white identifying mixed race people.

Ya just can't relegate them to the black state. Higher functioning blacks, sure. They'll need someone to try and keep the lights on.

Blogger Josh July 11, 2016 12:06 PM  

My only question is this--what do we do with the highly functioning, white identifying mixed race people.

You don't understand the concept of an ethno state

Anonymous Brick Hardslab July 11, 2016 12:06 PM  

Human Animal wrote:The Pacific Northwest is the place and various groups of whites have already started migrating. Come Home, white people.

Except lots are shit libs who cannot be redpilled, even by ethnic gang rape. Nice climate though.


NO. The climate is not nice. We have areas with 100 to 200 inches of rain a year. We have a ton of NAMs and Indians. Since I have lived and worked on rez's all my life. Indians are different. No two ways around it. Now most are mixed. Most are mixed with whites. A lot with Mexicans. Metis can create very functional societies.

We are too crowded. I would welcome some whites but not Californians. They have ruined the state. They have militarized our police starting in the seventies and have made the state rude, dangerous to drive in and, and liberal.

So no not all whites. Never.

Blogger kmbr July 11, 2016 12:07 PM  

**You don't understand the concept of an ethno state**

I fully get it. Just working out the gray areas.

Blogger Miguel D'Anconia July 11, 2016 12:11 PM  

I like the idea of a black or those that love them only NATION, not state. I recommend Haiti. I would gladly contribute to shipping the Obongo lovers there with absolutely no return to America for any reason, for any period of time.

Blogger Matamoros July 11, 2016 12:11 PM  

The heck with giving them a state.

Let's implement the Lincoln Plan and repatriate them back to Africa. Be humane, give them each $100,000, but ban them from ever returning.

Then they can be among their own and show them the vibrancy.

Anonymous gxg July 11, 2016 12:14 PM  

Give up Michigan? The Great Lakes? Because we need to let the world's largest supply of fresh water turn into a 3rd world sewer?

What? You don't want Lake Michigan culturally enriched?
Liberia: Welcome to Shit Beach

Anonymous Brick Hardslab July 11, 2016 12:15 PM  

Ok. I get it. You folks don't want to give up the South. That's where my mother's family came from. We built cities, forts, even traveled with Daniel Boone.

So let's conquer Northern Mexico and make it a buffer state. Give it to those folks promised forty acres and a mule. Alternately we could unlock all the federal land in the western half of the country. It is full of resources and fully capable of being a viable nation. Forty acres, try four hundred. Plus there are facilities already, dams, roads, power lines and distribution, forests, mines.

There is way more than thirteen percent of the nation there.

The folks that came after the immigration act? They can go home or find live in the mixed race North East. That should be the default setting for all who want to live in a liberal mixed state. Everything from Pennsylvania to NY. They can live in a Washington DC run area that will be a utopia.

Blogger James Dixon July 11, 2016 12:21 PM  

> 

Which doesn’t necessarily mean that the whites living there are anti-white or refuse to or choose not to associate with non-whites.

Where did I say it did? ABC news seems to think so though.

> They already got casinos

And tax free cigarettes. Killing the white man the slow painful way: With lung cancer.

> One test for northern Whites who wish to stay in the South, could be to ritually curse the name of Abraham Lincoln and then kiss a golden replica of Robert E. Lee’s ass.

I have no problem with the former, but the latter smacks of idolatry. Maybe simply swearing an oath on his memoirs?

> I think the confederacy already agreed on Waffle House.

I think there's a strong Cracker Barrel constituency as well.

Anonymous #8601 Jean Valjean July 11, 2016 12:27 PM  

White Americans could take over Canada in an afternoon, and there's nothing that pussy Trudeau could do about it. Canada is a nice, large land mass with coast lines and all the fresh water you could ever want.

Blogger Josh July 11, 2016 12:28 PM  

> I think the confederacy already agreed on Waffle House.

I think there's a strong Cracker Barrel constituency as well.


The obvious answer is Chick Fil A.

Anonymous andon July 11, 2016 12:28 PM  

122. Anonymous A.B. Prosper July 11, 2016 11:48 AM
The easiest solution would be to push unwanted people regardless of race over the Mexican border wall.

Return the favor as it were.


lol, you can have your trash back, plus a little more

Anonymous andon July 11, 2016 12:33 PM  

@ #132 - per one of the commenters:

Shit Beach is the cleanest beach in Liberia

Blogger Achilles July 11, 2016 12:37 PM  

The Great Lakes Alliance will gladly take in all of America's blacks. We ask only that we have complete autonomy. Also do not ask how are crops are being planted or about the smoke coming out of our chimneys.

Tuebor

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 11, 2016 12:38 PM  

As much as I dislike @Rhetoric Man, I never thought him stupid.

Until he demonstrated that he doesn't know what a uniform is.

Anonymous Quartermaster July 11, 2016 12:40 PM  

@128
I lived in Albany in the early 60s and Oregon was a very nice place at the time. We saw the first kali immigrants, and they weren't nice people in the slightest.

I wouldn't mind visiting, now 50 years downstream, but I know I'd be slumming and would probably be heart broken to see things as they are now.

Anonymous GreyS July 11, 2016 12:44 PM  

...to claim five states as belonging to the “Black Nation”: Louisiana, Mississippi, South Carolina, Alabama, and Georgia

They don't have anywhere enough people to claim five states. 37 million so they can have two. Can't have Louisiana because it has the largest tonnage port in the country. NC and Georgia both have around 10 million people and are 75% white, so that won't happen. South Carolina is between NC and Georgia so they would be separated from the Blaxit country so that wouldn't work. Alabama has 5 million people and is 75% white and they wouldn't move willingly.

Mississippi has a lot of open land and only has 2 million people so they can have that. I'd say give them Arkansas because it is contiguous with Mississippi and also gave us the "first black president" who is responsible for a lot of this mess.

Blogger Geir Balderson July 11, 2016 12:44 PM  

"After all, diversity means nothing more than chasing down white people in an attempt to escape the negative consequences of being surrounded by your own kind."

No! They would be chasing down white folks to have they PAY for their lifestyle! How many dark folk have jobs to sustain themselves? How many have education in order to get those jobs? How many are civilized enough to be a responsible citizen?

Anonymous GregMan July 11, 2016 12:47 PM  

Babu Omowale, the so-called national minister of defense for the People’s New Black Panther Party, says his group and allied organizations have their sights set on establishing “our own government in a nation within a nation.”

That is actually an old Communist Party platform from the 20's and 30's they used to attract black support to the Party. The intention was to take over one or more southern states and make them secede and form an all-black nation under Communist control.

Blogger VFM #7634 July 11, 2016 12:50 PM  

Omowale used the interview to claim five states as belonging to the “Black Nation”: Louisiana, Mississippi, South Carolina, Alabama, and Georgia.

That doesn't actually work. I'm guessing he was looking at county maps of percent black, but in fact, Alabama is actually whiter than the country as a whole now. Most heavily-black counties in the South are rural with low populations.

This would provide a better guide:
Racial Dot Map

(Also, here is the British one.)

Anonymous Wilford July 11, 2016 12:51 PM  

I think the confederacy already agreed on Waffle House.

> I think there's a strong Cracker Barrel constituency as well.

> The obvious answer is Chick Fil A.


Gentlemen, plese. Let's settle this the southron way.

GREASED PIG WRESTLING!

Blogger YIH July 11, 2016 12:56 PM  

Josh wrote:Africans IN America get told ''Here's your 'homeland', it's currently called Mississippi, but you can name it whatever you want and you get whatever's already there with all the non-Africans evacuated - then you're on your own... Good luck''.

When will you Yankee idiots learn...

We ain't evacuating, we ain't leaving. Ever.

Now you see why I said it's going to be just like Yugoslavia. Look how Whites are faring in Zimbabwe.

OpenID paworldandtimes July 11, 2016 12:57 PM  

GREASED PIG WRESTLING!

At Piggly Wiggly?

PA

Anonymous bw July 11, 2016 12:58 PM  

If the USA breaks apart, we're leaving too Josh

That's exactly what is being noted - just not in the way or for the reasons that Muh equatorial Dixie fantasizes about.

Traditional Southern Protestant churches, such as the Southern Baptist Convention, should be given preferential treatment under the law. ZB

Too Perfect

Yeah... whites in Alabama and Georgia and Mississippi are totally gonna just hand over the states to blacks

They've already handed over their cities. Atlanta, Macon, Jackson, Memphis, NOrleans, Birmingham and Montgomery, Richmond, Little Rock, etal. It's called White Flight, not White Fight.
Ouch

Anonymous cheddarman July 11, 2016 1:01 PM  

GreyS wrote:...to claim five states as belonging to the “Black Nation”: Louisiana, Mississippi, South Carolina, Alabama, and Georgia

They don't have anywhere enough people to claim five states. 37 million so they can have two. Can't have Louisiana because it has the largest tonnage port in the country. NC and Georgia both have around 10 million people and are 75% white, so that won't happen. South Carolina is between NC and Georgia so they would be separated from the Blaxit country so that wouldn't work. Alabama has 5 million people and is 75% white and they wouldn't move willingly.

Mississippi has a lot of open land and only has 2 million people so they can have that. I'd say give them Arkansas because it is contiguous with Mississippi and also gave us the "first black president" who is responsible for a lot of this mess.


If it came down to a fight, my money is on the 1 million plus white mississipians over the 37 million africans

Blogger Laguna Beach Fogey July 11, 2016 1:04 PM  

The South is so screwed.

I can easily imagine throngs of Southerners being cleansed from the region and ending up as refugees in, say, California.

Too funny.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan July 11, 2016 1:05 PM  

If the alt-right crushes the concepts of white guilt, virtue signaling and maybe a couple more I cannot think of at the moment then the world is ours again.

If you can't crush those mind benders then I could put all whites in a new country and it would be destroyed within a generation.

The answer is within ourselves.

It is why BUGs is about free speech for whites, we will think for ourselves thank you.

Anonymous kfg July 11, 2016 1:09 PM  

@123: "Give up Michigan? The Great Lakes?"

Exactly. Chicago won't do it, and, like it or not, Chicago is the unrivalled powerhouse and center of the region.

"Because we need to let the world's largest supply of fresh water turn into a 3rd world sewer?"

This time the breakup will be relatively peaceful, because everybody but Mordor and the Cuck Belt want it.

The blood letting will begin after the breakup, internally. That's gonna be some nasty shit.

If they could get it they'd take Buffalo too (which would be perfectly happy to be there, it's a better cultural fit than with New New England), but New York will fight for it to not give up its major Great Lakes port. Buffalo will turn into a sort of Istanbul, the gateway city between New New England and Chicagoland.

Anonymous GreyS July 11, 2016 1:14 PM  

And I would fully support the U.S. federal govt in the reparational act of building the Blaxit country a wall so as to keep all the oppressive whites out. Gotta do what's right, folks...

Blogger Rusty Fife July 11, 2016 1:16 PM  

JDC wrote:Because they still can't agree on whether the legislature will meet at Stuckey's or Hooters.

I think the confederacy already agreed on Waffle House.


Cracker Barrel. That never gets old.

Anonymous kfg July 11, 2016 1:16 PM  

"Buffalo will turn into a sort of Istanbul . . ."

. . . if it doesn't turn into Chicagoland's Carthage.

Anonymous Cash July 11, 2016 1:17 PM  

I'm thinking give them Florida. Yay disney.

Then turn up the heat, melt the ice caps, flood it out, cool things down, and bam, take Florida back.

Blogger Robert Divinity July 11, 2016 1:21 PM  

White Southerners won't and cannot be dislodged from the suburbs and countryside where they primarily live. They will settle one old festering issue, retake their urban centers in a matter of days, and probably lob a nuke on the Northeast to resolve another outstanding grievance.

Nuevo Confederacy likely will be the nicest country on Earth.

Blogger Josh July 11, 2016 1:23 PM  

The South is so screwed.

I can easily imagine throngs of Southerners being cleansed from the region and ending up as refugees in, say, California.


That's because you're a retard

Blogger Josh July 11, 2016 1:27 PM  

They've already handed over their cities. Atlanta, Macon, Jackson, Memphis, NOrleans, Birmingham and Montgomery, Richmond, Little Rock, etal. It's called White Flight, not White Fight.

We have never been an urban people, because cities are stupid places full of stupid people.

Blogger Austin Ballast July 11, 2016 1:29 PM  

Whites of northern ancestry must be similarly scrutinized and largely expelled.

After surviving some firearms I suppose. Not likely that I am leaving Texas.

Don't feel bad, depending upon where they draw the DNA line, I'm out too.

You are already out VD, so that is not relevant.

I wouldn't care if I couldn't vote because it was limited to "true Texans" as long as most of Austin couldn't vote either.

OpenID paworldandtimes July 11, 2016 1:30 PM  

Nuevo Confederacy likely will be the nicest country on Earth.

To visit. With a passport and visa, to be clear. But I gotta have my real winters.

PA

Blogger Elder Son July 11, 2016 1:32 PM  

Even if we were to give those states to blacks, and gave them full autonomy, most wouldn't move to them. If blacks were half-way serious, they would would start a mass migration to those states, or any state. Unfortunately, the very thought of removing themselves from the government plantation scares the hell out of them. And then, even if it did happen, it would turn into a perpetual Marshall Plan. Let's just face it, for all the talk from those black folks who claim they want to be free from the white man burden, their very existence actually depends on the white man.

Blogger Natalie July 11, 2016 1:33 PM  

Laguna Beach Fogey wrote:The South is so screwed.

I can easily imagine throngs of Southerners being cleansed from the region and ending up as refugees in, say, California.

Too funny.


I have lived in California before.

NO, nope, not going to do it. The hell we're going to give up God's own country for that arid libhole y'all people call the holy land.

Blogger Raggededge July 11, 2016 1:35 PM  

Who the fuck is going to mow my lawn in the all white state?

OpenID paworldandtimes July 11, 2016 1:35 PM  

What would an independent South be formally called? There is CSA, Dixie, some word combination that includes the word "South," or simply Alabama ...

Blogger Josh July 11, 2016 1:37 PM  

Who the fuck is going to mow my lawn in the all white state?

Mrs scalzi

Blogger Josh July 11, 2016 1:38 PM  


What would an independent South be formally called? There is CSA, Dixie, some word combination that includes the word "South," or simply Alabama ...


SEC SEC SEC

Blogger Natalie July 11, 2016 1:38 PM  

Man, everyone knows that the legislature meets in the back of that local bbq joint.

Blogger Josh July 11, 2016 1:39 PM  

But I gotta have my real winters.

Yankees are weird

Blogger Natalie July 11, 2016 1:40 PM  

Raggededge wrote:Who the fuck is going to mow my lawn in the all white state?

Teenage boys saving up for their first car so they can take their best girl down to the state fair.

OpenID paworldandtimes July 11, 2016 1:42 PM  

Yankees are weird

Love of winter is the only thing we Slavs agree with them on.

PA

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 11, 2016 1:43 PM  

Raggededge wrote:Who the fuck is going to mow my lawn in the all white state?

Shoulda picked your own cotton.
Mow your own damn lawn

Blogger Timmy3 July 11, 2016 1:48 PM  

The liberals will have the coastal and sunbelt counties. The white and conservatives will have the central inland counties and states (flyover country). But I think it is too late for that nonetheless. The increase in immigration, plus the continuing erosion of traditional values to gays and feminists will make this effort impossible.

Blogger Elder Son July 11, 2016 1:48 PM  

Then, every export they can conjure up, will be called Black Slavery.

I live in a house built by slaves. - FLOTUS

We live in a new Black country, built by slaves. - Black Panthers

No matter what the white man does for the blacks, it will always be because slaves.

Blogger SemiSpook37 July 11, 2016 1:57 PM  

praetorian wrote:To modify a top 100 VP comment: there will always be a place for catholics in America, and that place is Maryland.

Yeah, if you're looking at when they founded the state, not in its current state. You've got 5 counties subjected to the leadership in Washington, DC, everything on the Eastern Shore subject to Wilmington, and the rest subject to Baltimore.

Also keep in mind that the so-called Resistance movement that spawned out of the SSPX with the removal of Bishop Richard Williamson is centered in Vienna, Virginia, of all places. And oddly enough, that's with the Diocese of Arlington being the most "orthodox" diocese in the entire region.

Anonymous BigGayKoranBurner July 11, 2016 2:01 PM  

C#nt (((Ginsberg))) said she would move to New Zealand if TRUMP wins. I guess all those hoping she would be a POX upon Israel are disappointed. Notice they always want to move somewhere whiter than the US.

Nope. One’s uniform is their faith. Religion trumps race EVERY time.

Pa the wetbacks with the facial tattoos say they are Mermans.

What happens to Asians?

I suggest we keep the east Asians & send the rest who enjoy giving $40 for $100 worth of food stamps home.

Just get out of the I5 corridor and it's not too bad. Everything between Portland and Ashland can be burned without a loss.

Mother nature might take care of it via subluxation http://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/blog/techflash/2015/07/everything-west-of-i-5-will-be-toast-details-from.html

then kiss a golden replica of Robert E. Lee’s ass MILO might "David French" kiss it, if its just gold plated he might strip the paint.

Don't disregard the value that average-IQ competent tradesmen and even unskilled labor White people provide in vital support roles.

They keep civilization running but the heavy lifting of civilization is done by men like Tesla and Edison

The South is so screwed.

All they have to do is cut off welfare/food stamps and not tell them that kudzu is edible

We have never been an urban people, because cities are stupid places full of stupid people.

Before air conditioning and antibiotics cities were deathtraps. A couple of Bubbas with tannerite can make them that way again.

Who the fuck is going to mow my lawn in the all white state?

I have lived in an all white area before that had white boys going around mowing lawns.

Anonymous Athor Pel July 11, 2016 2:01 PM  

"134. Blogger James Dixon July 11, 2016 12:21 PM
...
> I think the confederacy already agreed on Waffle House.

I think there's a strong Cracker Barrel constituency as well.
"


Cracker Barrel for sure. I mean, the name recommends itself.
Everybody knows crackers go to Cracker Barrel.

Anonymous kfg July 11, 2016 2:01 PM  

"Shoulda picked your own cotton."

https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/photo/2015/07/child-labor-in-america-100-years-ag/c06_00629u/main_900.jpg

http://archives.evergreen.edu/webpages/curricular/2006-2007/summerwork/images/Hine,%20Lewis/Boy%20picking%20cotton,%20c1912.jpg

Anonymous kfg July 11, 2016 2:10 PM  

"Before air conditioning and antibiotics cities were deathtraps."

Which is why Florida was only white, English dominated for a few decades after WWII. They wouldn't go there until some swamps were drained, the mosquitoes sprayed with DDT and air conditioning installed in the hotels.

If we're going to go to the trouble to melt the ice caps and drown the place, I don't see why we wouldn't just leave it that way.

Blogger Thucydides July 11, 2016 2:12 PM  

The Yugoslavia comment is somewhat prescient, but one of the key differences between Yugoslavia and America is Yugoslavia is strongly defined by geography; each of the various "people" (Slavs, Croats, Bosniacs etc.) were usually defined by a geographic redoubt which was and is the centre of their respective territories. The Serbs had a tough time because they still cling to Kosova as their "homeland", despite having migrated north to the modern "Serbia" over the last 500 years or so.

The black population in the US has largely settled in the great American cities, as this is both where their Democrat masters want them and where they can most easily leach of the existing State. This also means that if segregation and civil war are really in the cards, they are utterly screwed, since cutting off the electricity and transportation links will literally starve them out.

What hasn't been mentioned here yet is the fact the race war the Progressives have been trying to fan so ardently is backfiring in their faces. Blacks are facing challenges from Hispanics and Asians, and have turned on the other Progressive "pet" group; the gays. Since all these groups have preferentially settled in metropolitan areas, cutting off cities should be considered "the" 4GW" strategy, and let the various Progressive pets exterminate themselves fighting over the last cans of baked beans in the ruins of the cities.

This seems much cleaner and easier than various repatriation plans and dispossessing people from their ancestral lands. Not to mention, getting *them* to do all the work for us (and hanging white Progressive politicians from lamp posts) is a much more efficient use of resources.

Anonymous kfg July 11, 2016 2:19 PM  

"What hasn't been mentioned here yet is the fact the race war the Progressives have been trying to fan so ardently is backfiring in their faces."

Really? You've been here longer than that. The fact that Hispanics hate blacks and drive them from any area they move into comes up on the regular.

" . . . cutting off cities should be considered "the" 4GW" strategy . . ."

And we've discussed specific strategies and tactics for this.

Blogger tz July 11, 2016 2:25 PM  

I'll trade Zimbabwe on the Atlantic and Ixtlan on the Pacific if I can have Switzerland on the Columbia or in the Rockies.

Anonymous Rhetoric Man July 11, 2016 2:28 PM  

"Expelled or shot as collaborators, if history is any guide."

Unlikely.

PA...

"Don't disregard the value that average-IQ competent tradesmen and even unskilled labor White people provide in vital support roles."

Except those whites generally associate with or intermingle non-whites, so you're really going to have to sell it with heavy doses of propaganda.

dc sunsets...

"My guess is that people conditioned to dependency will go Full Chimpout, and those who previously carried the burden of supporting them out of a delusion of unlimited resources will respond with a complete pogrom, scorched earth and all."

Your wild guess. I'm quite certain the elites have a flow chart of the doomsday scenarios and the appropriate response.

cheddarman...

"If it came down to a fight, my money is on the 1 million plus white mississipians over the 37 million africans."

You are forgetting that the darkies also own guns and are gang members with nothing to lose.

Snidely...

"Until he demonstrated that he doesn't know what a uniform is."

Uniform--Clothing someone wears to show distinction as a member of a particular group.

I learned that word way back in kindergarten. Major fail on your part.

Again, one's religion trumps race. That is THE uniform.

Blogger Robert Divinity July 11, 2016 2:28 PM  

The humor quotient would be high to see the faces of the pampered middle class BLM members when told they would have to live in a black-run and dominated State. They are much like liberals who profess to love Mo-hams while silently being scared shitless of them.

Blogger VFM #7634 July 11, 2016 2:36 PM  

@181 Thucydides

The Yugoslavia comment is somewhat prescient, but one of the key differences between Yugoslavia and America is Yugoslavia is strongly defined by geography; each of the various "people" (Slavs, Croats, Bosniacs etc.) were usually defined by a geographic redoubt which was and is the centre of their respective territories.

Right. The borders of U.S. states are essentially useless when it comes to delineating homelands, just like the Sykes-Picot-type clusterfuck borders of various crapholes in the Middle East such as Iraq and Syria, or African countries.

Whenever the U.S. breaks up, I guarantee that the existing state borders will be gone with the wind. There will be entirely new borders, such as the one between the Federation and the Republika Srpska within Bosnia-Herzegovina, or the one within Croatia while Srpska Krajina existed, or the one in Donetsk and Lugansk oblasts in eastern Ukraine, or Nagorno-Karabakh.

And it won't involve blacks carving out their own states either. It'll be various groups of whites and Hispanics. Why?

The black population in the US has largely settled in the great American cities, as this is both where their Democrat masters want them and where they can most easily leach of the existing State. This also means that if segregation and civil war are really in the cards, they are utterly screwed, since cutting off the electricity and transportation links will literally starve them out.

This. blacks (and Asians) are primarily in the cities, and don't own the countryside anywhere, except in parts of the south, and even there, it's a leftover population that's almost insignificant.

Ominously, do you know who else routinely took up their halves of the larger cities and towns and weren't found much in the countryside?

Eastern European Jews before World War II.

Also,

Blogger James Dixon July 11, 2016 2:37 PM  

> To visit. With a passport and visa, to be clear. But I gotta have my real winters.

That's why Dixie will re-annex West Virginia.

Blogger VFM #7634 July 11, 2016 2:43 PM  

Also, this all means that the South, at this point, will be white-dominated, not black-dominated.

OpenID paworldandtimes July 11, 2016 2:43 PM  

You are forgetting that the darkies also own guns and are gang members with nothing to lose.

But they can't shoot straight or maintain equipment, they have no noise discipline, no tactical much less strategic abilities, they are superstitious and terrified of the wierd (which is why Klan's costume parties and dubstep unsettle them), they run in terror when faced with organized oppisition, they chimp out on each other, and they can be easily bribed with liquor. Did I say they can't shoot straight?

PA

Blogger tz July 11, 2016 2:45 PM  

@120 - The average IQ is higher, or they have the virtues like perseverance and temperance that make them more effective.

Does no one read history? There have been migrations, south to north during the great depression, and center to west at the same time because of the Dust Bowl.

Think of whatever area the Blaxit ends up as the "B-ark" implemented in real life.

I should admit I live in a very un-diverse area. There are a few hispanics who are about fully integrated - what is a red-brown neck?

Now with the California Gunpocalypse I expect many will be leaving. CA is IL but with the high-tech and hollywood able to pay the exorbitant fees. They have destroyed their middle class so there are just rich and poor.

Blogger tz July 11, 2016 2:48 PM  

The Lakota, Sioux, Crow and such would make a great eastern buffer DMZ between the American Redoubt and the USSA for where the Rockies aren't a sufficient barrier.

Blogger Were-Puppy July 11, 2016 2:49 PM  

Even Atlanta couldn't handle freaknik.
And that was just for a weekend.
Do they really think places in the South want a permanent Freaknik?
Not going to happen.

Anonymous kfg July 11, 2016 2:49 PM  

"You are forgetting that the darkies also own guns and are gang members with nothing to lose."

Forget? Hell, they're one of my favorite jokes.

Lesse; 9mm Glocks fired sideways from moving vehicles in a semi-random direction, against Winchester 70s in .308 that make one shot kills on feral hogs from hundreds of yards on the daily.

I've got my money on the Winchesters.

Anonymous andon July 11, 2016 2:53 PM  

184. Anonymous Rhetoric Man July 11, 2016 2:28 PM

...Major fail on your part.


if you have to claim that, its prob not true


Again, one's religion trumps race. That is THE uniform.

sounds like you're hoping. (if I say it 100 times it MUST be true) I wonder how many (any?) on here agree with you

Blogger James Dixon July 11, 2016 2:57 PM  

> against Winchester 70s in .308

I've shot a couple of .308's in my lifetime. They're a really nice gun. For a single rife, I think I'd still take a good .30-06 over them though.

Blogger James Dixon July 11, 2016 2:58 PM  

> Again, one's religion trumps race. That is THE uniform.

How easy is it to tell someone's religion at sniper range?

Blogger Robert Divinity July 11, 2016 3:01 PM  

Again, one's religion trumps race. That is THE uniform.

sounds like you're hoping. (if I say it 100 times it MUST be true) I wonder how many (any?) on here agree with you

If the claim is religion > race, I disagree. Many Christian sects have shed members over such issues as desegregation, miscegenation and so forth. Droves of Southern Baptists are fleeing what has become a cult because it is led now by a Social Justice Warrior who encourages illegal immigration. Those are observations and not hard numbers, but suspect it is the rule and not the exception.

Anonymous kfg July 11, 2016 3:05 PM  

@195: "For a single rife, I think I'd still take a good .30-06 over them though."

Used to was the Feds were damned near giving those away. Plenty of them around too, even in "anti-gun" New England.

But don't underestimate the presence and effectiveness of .30-.30s as street sweepers either.

Blogger dc.sunsets July 11, 2016 3:11 PM  

@Rhetoric Man, the elites can have all the plans they wish.
1. The current crop sure seems pretty clueless to me.
2. If your inference about the efficacy of such plans were true, we'd still be speaking Latin.

Go read something about black swans or nonlinear systems.

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