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Thursday, July 21, 2016

Ted Cruz 2020


Even Apollo 1 had a better launch than Ted Cruz's 2020 presidential campaign last night.

Texas Senator Ted Cruz was denied entry into billionaire GOP donor Sheldon Adleson’s suite following his speech at the Republican National Convention Wednesday night, Independent Journal Review has confirmed.

A former U.S. Senator inside the Adelson’s luxury box at the Quicken Loans arena told Independent Journal Review that Cruz approached the suite after he finished his speech that fell short of endorsing Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump.

Cruz was not welcome in the suite “because he’s a piece of sh*t,” the Senator said.

Cruz was stopped at the door because several attendees inside the suite were furious with his decision to not endorse Trump. An aide to Adelson then confirmed that Cruz was turned away. 


UPDATE: "Ted Cruz's campaign chair Richard Black says that it's doubtful he'd ever support Cruz again."

UPDATE 2: Hear Ted Cruz attempting to rationalize his self-immolation on the national stage. Video at the link:
A delegate was upset that Ted Cruz didn’t honor his pledge and support Trump, telling Cruz that his word is his bond and that he should have honored his pledge.

Here’s how Cruz responded and it was awesome!

Cruz explained to the person why the pledge he made supporting the nominee was abrogated, pointing out that happened when Trump attacked his wife and his father and made this personal.

The delegate responded that this is politics and he needed to get over it.

But Cruz hit back hard, saying this is NOT politics and it’s not a game, that there is right and wrong and we must stand for what is right!
So noble! Of course, Cruz didn't make this clear to the public at any time before standing at the podium, in fact, he didn't even make it clear during his speech, which is why some of his foolish defenders are trying to claim that he did not, in fact, do what he obviously did. That's what happens when you side with a snake.

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Blogger Phillip George July 21, 2016 9:24 AM  

Ted who?

Anonymous VFM #6306 July 21, 2016 9:25 AM  

Hey, now. "Boo" is 50% of "Boo yah" you know. He's halfway there!

Blogger Robert Divinity July 21, 2016 9:27 AM  

I hope Vox Day is watching this Cruz address to the Texas delegation. It is turning into a dumpster fire for him as he tries to play the role of Mark Anthony. It also reveals why he is unfit even to be a fucking senator.

Anonymous Broken Arrow July 21, 2016 9:27 AM  

If Cruz hadn't signed a pledge one might argue it was Machiavellian or as a big stretch he just had to take some sort of principled stand, but since signed that pledge I don't see any way it was something other than breaking his word for personal political gain.

Matthew 5:37 seems to bind him to that pledge.

Anonymous WaterBoy July 21, 2016 9:33 AM  

"Vote your conscience".

One hopes his Texas constituents will do just that.

Blogger JayKayNZ July 21, 2016 9:34 AM  

Oh my days. If you'd like to learn how to dig deeper the hole you're already in, you need to watch Ted's address to the texas delegation, on right now.

Holy crap its getting worse.

OpenID frankluke July 21, 2016 9:36 AM  

I've seen his shills this morning saying, "if he didn't endorse Trump, it's the candidate's own fault." They then try to trot out scripture.

Funny that "Let your yes be yes and your no be no" never make the cut.

Anonymous VFM #6306 July 21, 2016 9:37 AM  

Please boo.

Anonymous trk July 21, 2016 9:39 AM  

Well Texans do like their BBQ.... Did anyone see Ted rub himself w a dry rub or did he have a sauce bath after he smoked himself?

Anonymous Broken Arrow July 21, 2016 9:42 AM  

I never thought my contempt for Gammas could go any lower, but just take a look at the Gamma-Cucks at NRO defending Cruz breaking his word because Trump said mean things to him. I Choose Ted | National Review

Look at Goldberg's language and compare it to Scalzi's when talking about people he hates--which is the entire Trump crowd. Notice the similarities?

Blogger Harry Cassandra July 21, 2016 9:43 AM  

Vox...It occurs to me that we may be wrong-ish about Cruz. It could be gamma behaviour, but it could also be supremely well calculated. Cruz struck a 'They'll hate because I speak the truth' martyr pose and hoodwinked a bunch of evangelicals into seeing him as the rejected saviour, whose Second Coming in 2020 will save them all. I detect a highly calculated Passion play re-enactment of Christ's trial put on by a very shrewd Cruz who understands his evangelical supporters. He's a smart guy. And some evangelicals are just that naive when it comes to Cruz. Every evangelical apologist I know personally, (and I know a fair number of 'Big Names' through my association with Biola University) is STILL plumping for Cruz and thinks what he did last night was o so very brave. I was just defriended on FB last night by a 'Big Name' in evangelical circles for mentioning Cruz's alleged infidelities. They wanted to damn Trump for divorce and remarriage (as an adultery), but refused to countenance any evidence of Cruz's cheating on his beloved wife.

Now it COULD still be gamma. Perhaps he is deluded and this is how he sees himself - a Christ figure standing up to the Pharisees, with a crowd calling for his crucifixion. I just don't know for sure, but I'm willing to suggest there may have been some pro-wrestling Passion theatrics built into his speech last night.

Blogger Nick S July 21, 2016 9:45 AM  

It isn't that big of a deal. The butt hurt is disproportionate. I've already spent too much time thinking about it.

Blogger CarpeOro July 21, 2016 9:46 AM  

Ted went complete irrelevant. You never go complete irrelevant, especially if you are a politician.

Anonymous Rhetoric Man July 21, 2016 9:47 AM  

Cruz stuck to his guns. Completely boss. The only loyalty he has is to God. He is saying vote for someone other than Trump or Hilary. Absolutely spot on.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan July 21, 2016 9:47 AM  

So would someone please invent a society wide bait box for Gammas, Gammas blunder in to take the bait, die.

My WAG Gammas are a huge portion of the Left's thought leaders and a huge portion of the Cuck party line enforcers.

Blogger VD July 21, 2016 9:48 AM  

It occurs to me that we may be wrong-ish about Cruz. It could be gamma behaviour, but it could also be supremely well calculated.

We're not. It's not. He wouldn't be supplicating to the Texas delegation if he didn't already know that he dun goofed.

He's a Gamma and he's doing what Gammas do. They fuck things up for themselves. Not every single time, but reliably.

Blogger Krul July 21, 2016 9:50 AM  

The problem isn't only that he didn't endorse Trump, it's that he did it in such a smarmy, passive-aggressive way. It would have been better if he had come right out and said "I don't endorse Donald Trump" (still bad, but better). It would have been more respectable and the "principled stand" spin would be somewhat believable.

Instead he babbled a lot of generic pablum about "freedom" and "my daddy came to this country with a hundred dollars sewn in his underwear," hoping to get away without taking an explicit stand. The audience could see right through it, and they weren't having it. Yet he plowed on with his non-committal line even though it was clear no one was buying it. That's why he came off as such a slimy worm.

Anonymous VFM #6306 July 21, 2016 9:51 AM  

Harry, longwinded retarded Secret President plans are precisely Gamma.

Blogger Unknown the Elder July 21, 2016 9:52 AM  

Confession: I was a Cruz supporter. His speech was painful.

The alpha move would have been to turn the other cheek, fulfill his pledge to support the nominee, and behave like there are higher things in life than personal interest.

Anonymous CatDog July 21, 2016 9:53 AM  

Since when is being disliked by Sheldon Adleson a bad thing.

A few months ago having his support would have been a sign that your an establishment shill.

Blogger The Deuce July 21, 2016 9:54 AM  

Re the last conversation, I'm not convinced Ted's a gamma. I see little evidence that he hates alphas in general. He and Donald were on better terms than anyone else in the campaign up until the notorious wife insult (followed by the father insult). This seems to be a personal grudge based on that. I do think he has been having a protracted gamma moment since then, and it sounds like he sperged out pretty bad last night. There are few people who never have them under any circumstances.

Btw, whatever you want to label it, last night also showed how foolish and shortsighted Trump's decision to insult Cruz's wife, and later his father, was in retrospect. As you may recall, the wife insult occurred because Trump took it personally when some Super PAC made an ad targeting Melania, prompting him to lash out at Ted's wife. The dig at Cruz's father seems to have happened because Trump simply hated Cruz at that point. Trump allowed his personal anger to get in the way of his long-term goal. NOT going after Cruz's family members would've cost him nothing.

Regardless of Cruz looking like an impotent gamma wimp now, Trump would've been a lot better off getting his endorsement than his self-immolation. It may cost him the votes of quite a few anti-establishment Republicans who would've otherwise gotten on board in the end, and for no real reason. The Republican party needed to be split, but this was more pieces than necessary.

Blogger Robert Divinity July 21, 2016 9:57 AM  

Quite a few Cruz supporters finally got the full measure of the senator (I won't use "man"). If they were wobbly about Trump they now are not. Cruz's passive/aggressive bullshit was on full display. Cruz went from he would not criticize Trump to criticizing Trump in a span of ten minutes.

Mental illness fully is on display along with Gamma behavior. Texans will drive the final nail into this petty prick's coffin---after they vote for Trump.

Anonymous Napoleon 12pdr July 21, 2016 9:57 AM  

I was also a Cruz supporter. His performance was disgusting. He was in a great position to set up for a 2020 or 2024 run by standing up and saying, "We all said hard-edged things about each other in the primaries. In a field of 17, that's inevitable. But Donald Trump is a decent person, and will make a FAR better President than a greedy gangster like Hillary Clinton."

What he did last night...well, it's a good thing for him that dueling is no longer customary. Otherwise, he'd be shot by Saturday morning.

Anonymous Viking July 21, 2016 10:01 AM  

I just hope more of the GOP will realize how it dodged a bullet in not going with Cruz. I have some very well meaning friends who are not going to know how to process this.

Blogger Jack Aubrey July 21, 2016 10:03 AM  

Are political careers eligible for the Darwin Award?

Blogger Cail Corishev July 21, 2016 10:04 AM  

He is saying vote for someone other than Trump or Hilary.

That must have been encoded in the Secret King signals he was sending out to his followers, because he sure didn't say that out loud. Could you continue translating for us, in case he says anything else interesting?

Blogger sysadmn July 21, 2016 10:04 AM  

Even Apollo 1 had a better launch than Ted Cruz's 2020 presidential campaign last night.

Biggest burn since the Rocketdyne F-1, and well deserved.

Anonymous Broken Arrow July 21, 2016 10:05 AM  

@21 He. Signed. A. Pledge.

If he didn't have any plans on sticking to his word he shouldn't have boxed himself in.

Here's why Cruz is a Gamma: Even a low Delta who takes a pledge or oath in joining the military, the police, or an elder in a church won't break it without a severe crisis of conscience and certainly won't do it to stick it to someone. Cruz did this in just about the worst possible way. Even "immigrants are better than you" Jeb! was smart enough to hide away after breaking his word.

Blogger SemiSpook37 July 21, 2016 10:05 AM  

VFM #6306 wrote:Hey, now. "Boo" is 50% of "Boo yah" you know. He's halfway there!

Except that the "yah" in this case is short for "Yahgetitawayfromme!"

Blogger Harleyrose59 July 21, 2016 10:06 AM  

I fully expected Cruz's oily face to split open and the reptile emerge before us all! And it did!
We Texans fully own our responsibility for putting this faithless liar in the Senate!
Just as we own our responsibility to cast him into the annals of political obscurity! Perhaps well before 2018!

Blogger VD July 21, 2016 10:06 AM  

Since when is being disliked by Sheldon Adleson a bad thing.

When you're trying to claim that your speech went over well with party insiders. Did it escape your attention that Cruz was TRYING to kowtow to him?

He's so on the outs now that he's not even permitted to kiss the ring.

Blogger lowercaseb July 21, 2016 10:12 AM  

It occurs to me that we may be wrong-ish about Cruz. It could be gamma behaviour, but it could also be supremely well calculated.

I don't give a rat's ass about his sociosexual position. Real men keep their word.

However, this election has been tough on him and everyone makes bad decisions. Luckily he is young and has a good long life ahead of him as a private citizen to reflect on his mistakes.

Blogger Quadko July 21, 2016 10:15 AM  

Wow, and I liked Cruz early on. Dodged a bullet there! May he retire to a life of peaceful obscurity.

Blogger haus frau July 21, 2016 10:15 AM  

Amazing how cut throat cruz is and yet he doesn't read the public very well. Aspergers or gamma?

Blogger residentMoron July 21, 2016 10:16 AM  

You're delusional, Rhetoric Man. God keeps his promises and expects his followers to do likewise.

Anonymous VFM #6306 July 21, 2016 10:17 AM  

Cruz to angry Texas delegates:

"I'm going to defend even your right to insult me."

So brave.

Blogger Cail Corishev July 21, 2016 10:17 AM  

Regardless of Cruz looking like an impotent gamma wimp now, Trump would've been a lot better off getting his endorsement than his self-immolation.

That assumes his endorsement was ever available. Maybe there would have been a Gamma moment over something else. Maybe he's just a really bad loser. I don't think we can assume that if Trump doesn't "lash out" at his family he's going to play ball.

The Adelson story looks bad for Cruz because, if he was such an anti-establishment outsider being mistreated by Trump and the GOPe, why was he going to Adelson's suite after taking a beating? Shouldn't he have already been unwelcome there?

Blogger sysadmn July 21, 2016 10:17 AM  

@Harry Cassandra

Your theory requires that we believe that Cruz is cunning and calculating enough to set himself up to capture the Evangelical vote, but not calculating enough to realize he's alienated much of the rest of the grass root, common man, Tea party populists, as well as at least some of the Money Republicans who didn't already hate him. Did he think his lukewarm non-endorsement would endear him to the GOP old guard?

I don't buy it. I think it was a miscalculation, trying to have his cake and eat it. It's too bad, because he could have been a creditable candidate down the road - not great, but better than most.

Anonymous WinstonWebb July 21, 2016 10:18 AM  

Aspergers or gamma?

Yes.

Blogger praetorian July 21, 2016 10:19 AM  

I've tried to avoid D&C with Cruz, I respect Nates opinion of his ground game.

But, last night, he lived up to his portrayal as Ephialtes in this dank video:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W7I92r9GqUw

Anonymous SugarPi July 21, 2016 10:20 AM  

Cruz is doubling down on why pooping in the punchbowl was a "principled" thing to do...
And Fox is playing the vid of the debate in which he pledged to support Trump, "because I'm a man of my word." Clearly NOT.
Also, social media is abuzz with Hilldog and pack's congratulations to Cruz. That says it all, folks!

Anonymous appropriated libations July 21, 2016 10:20 AM  

@20 I wouldn't make too much of it. Establishment Jewish leadership have a multi-millenial bad habit of publicly siding with invaders or oppressors against native peoples among whom they are living and with whom they do not get along, to the detriment of local Jewish people. I see Adelson as simply nipping this propensity in the bud, before it happens again in a state whose continued health and Western orientation is essential for Israel's long-term survival. Neither the money nor any genuine loyalty are important (I don't expect either), only the endorsement and the presumed behavior which follows it: not siding with enemies of the American people against Americans during an existential struggle.

Blogger Markku July 21, 2016 10:22 AM  

because I'm a man of my word.

Ok, that is PLEASE CLAP level lulz.

Blogger Sheila4g July 21, 2016 10:22 AM  

Since I no longer vote locally, my position won't make any difference - but I wouldn't be surprised to see yet another Mr. Principled TruCon like Cornyn making excuses for Ted. It's painful for me, even though I'm merely a 20+ years Texas transplant, to read of people's respect for or positive impressions of Texas and have to disabuse them. Due to the cucks' decades-long rule and the importation of thousands from NY, NJ, CA, and Chicago, Texas (at least here in the DFW area) is not what they seem to think it is. There are still wonderful rural pockets(where we go to scout out where we'll move to if we can ever afford to do so) and the various workmen whom I use are capable, White, and good old boys, but otherwise this place is a multicultural pit.

Side note - not that anyone does or should care, but I've rethought my position on voting in November. I plead guilty to being a binary thinker. I still don't like Pence, but I've read enough here and elsewhere to realize I was being short-sighted and petty. I'll vote Trump, although I'm still disappointed, and won't send money unless/until I see something a lot more distinctly national and less "nuanced," "pivoting to the center" be damned.

OpenID frankluke July 21, 2016 10:22 AM  

A friend is actually saying Shapiro (yes, Ben Shapiro, Littlest Chickenhawk) 2020 would be awesome because "when the libs attack, he'd just throw facts in their face. It would be awesome!"

If you'll excuse me, I need to go find my butt. I laughed it off while rolling on the floor.

Blogger HERMAN T July 21, 2016 10:24 AM  

I SUPPORT TED CRUZ HE IS A REAL AMERICAN

Anonymous CatDog July 21, 2016 10:25 AM  

The fact that the prime financial backer of the Establishment/Neo-Con/Globalist/Social Liberal branch of the party is so in the tank for Trump is worrying to me.

Blogger Robert Divinity July 21, 2016 10:26 AM  

why was he going to Adelson's suite after taking a beating? Shouldn't he have already been unwelcome there?

Right? Trump not only let Cruz and #nevertrump self-immolate, he revealed its actual loyalty is not and never has been to the United States. Another traitor has been outed and his end of the table cut off.

Anonymous EH July 21, 2016 10:26 AM  

The truth is Ted Cruz parents were both listed as Canadian citizens on the voter rolls at the time of his birth, which at the time meant his mother had renounced her American citizenship and his father had never been a US citizen at that point. Ted Cruz was born in Canada and no report of a birth abroad was made to the State Department until after he was 18 years old. That alone means that Ted Cruz is not legally a US citizen at all, let alone a natural-born citizen. Cruz also renounced his Canadian citizenship only in 2014, after he had been in the Senate for going on two years. That means that Cruz is a stateless illegal alien. Trump can deport him to any place that will take him.

Blogger Arthur Isaac July 21, 2016 10:27 AM  

Seems like Cruz finally fulfilled Vox's predicted meltdown.

Blogger lowercaseb July 21, 2016 10:28 AM  

Rhetoric Man wrote:The only loyalty he has is to God.
The only loyalty he has is to himself.

If the tables were turned and it was Trump violating the oath, I'd have abandoned him also. I'd be disappointed...but he gave his word. They all gave their word.

There is nothing principled by this action. He couldn't get voted in, he couldn't get lawyered in, so now he used this offered handshake to get a sucker punch in.

...if he wanted to be principled, he'd have refused the handshake and walked away to come back to fight again.

Blogger Christopher July 21, 2016 10:28 AM  

Cruz shot his mouth off right into a moral dilemma.

(On the other hand Cruz is not a natural born citizen so this whole situation might just be misdirection.)

He signed the pledge or agreed at the debates --or both, to endorse the nominee.

Meanwhile, Cruz went beyond just saying, 'Trump is bad - I'm better' to never Trump.

He can't do or be both.

This is not genius or the moral high ground.

How could he not see that the pledge could be a problem?

How could he not see that taking a never Trump stance could be a problem.

There is a serious lack of foresight there. A moral lapse. The right thing to do would be to admit the mistake or mistakes.

Blogger Randsom Smith July 21, 2016 10:34 AM  

For the people saying Cruz really is a Sigma, I'm laughing at you.

As a Sigma personally (with a Sigma father), none of his actions make rational sense. For a while, he acted like he was buddies with Trump. Which I found sycophantic. Then, when Trump went full Alpha, Cruz didn't just say "yeah, whatever, I'm doing this instead." like he should have. He tried to fight the same battle with weaker weapons.

No Sigma would have ever said what he did last night. In fact, were it me, I would have steered clear of the convention and just stayed home. That being said, I hate parties and crowds anyways.

The sad thing is that Cruz's big game use to sound sincere. Now it's clear that he was nothing but a loud mouthed Neo-Con all along.

P.S. Vox, do you have a hierarchy for for women? My wife was curious and I can't recall there being anything for women.

Anonymous VFM #6306 July 21, 2016 10:34 AM  

Cruz: "I won't be a servile puppy dog."

Ok. How about one sick cat?

He should have gone out with the sex scandal. That was peak Cruz.

Anonymous SugarPi July 21, 2016 10:36 AM  

And CNN is applauding Cruz's revenge on Trump...
ROFLMAO

Blogger VD July 21, 2016 10:38 AM  

Vox, do you have a hierarchy for for women? My wife was curious and I can't recall there being anything for women.

There is a simple one. 1 to 10, on the basis of physical attraction.

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus July 21, 2016 10:40 AM  

Ted Cruz - Gamma with a bit of Lambda...

Anonymous VFM #6306 July 21, 2016 10:42 AM  

Randsom, the socio-sexual hierarchy for women is fairly close to:

1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10

Personality is a +/- modifier, but of no more than a point or two, and often nothing at all.

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus July 21, 2016 10:42 AM  

Ted Cruz - Gamma with a bit of Lambda...

Anonymous Arcturus_Rann July 21, 2016 10:43 AM  

lowercaseb wrote:If the tables were turned and it was Trump violating the oath, I'd have abandoned him also. I'd be disappointed...but he gave his word. They all gave their word.

Back in March Trump already said he would break his oath if he didn't win. Wouldn't matter, Trump supporters would've just excused away his behavior anyway.

"Rules for thee and not for me" is practically Trump's campaign slogan.

Cruz is still scummy for breaking his oath, but Trump would've done it too. They're all scumnbags.

Blogger Verne July 21, 2016 10:47 AM  

At times Ted showed brilliance and a admirable fighting spirit. But this showed that he has no control over his dark side. A dark side that is far larger than I ever thought it could have been.

Blogger residentMoron July 21, 2016 10:49 AM  

Oh, I'd say personality can be a -9000 modifier. You haven't met my ex wife

Blogger lowercaseb July 21, 2016 10:50 AM  

I don't think Cruz is a Neo...I think he honestly and passionately believes what he says. However, I can't support the way he goes about to achieve his ends.

Anonymous The OASF July 21, 2016 10:51 AM  

Trump set him up, obviously.

Blogger wrf3 July 21, 2016 10:51 AM  

Where's Nate?

Blogger tz July 21, 2016 10:55 AM  

Jephthah's vow. Judges 11.
He said he'd sacrifice the first thing that came out of his house if God granted him victory. It was his daughter.

Ted Cruz made a Jephthah vow.

Beck & co. are defending it because Trump was nasty and is bad, but that was known before Ted made the vow.

#NeverTrump isn't merely dead, it's cremated and the ashes scattered to the wind.

Anonymous SugarPi July 21, 2016 10:56 AM  

I can remember elections back to 1960 and I don't remember ANY Republican refusing to support the nominee over some comments made during the campaign or any other reason for that matter.

Blogger Helixfreak July 21, 2016 10:56 AM  

The self-immolation theme makes for fun memecraft. This was my attempt.

Anonymous Richardthughes July 21, 2016 10:59 AM  

They'll come running back after Trump's disaster.

Blogger Thucydides July 21, 2016 11:01 AM  

So glad everyone pledged to support the eventual nominee.....

Blogger lowercaseb July 21, 2016 11:02 AM  

Arcturus_Rann wrote:Back in March Trump already said he would break his oath if he didn't win.

Back in March, it looked like he was going to be lawyered out of the nomination, but that didn't matter. Trump agreed to the oath at the beginning. If he broke it, I would be aghast and appalled that I would have to vote for someone else. I might have even sat out the election, but that would be petulant and childish on my part. I would be angry with the GOPe for thwarting the will of the intended will of the voters, and I would have railed at length at the idiocy of giving that oath in the first place.

...but I would not vote for someone who broke their word.

However, no one cares or should care what I do. They should care about the actions on display. Trump won the nomination. Cruz dropped out early. If he wanted to make a principled stand he should have fought to the end like Bernie.

...and the thing that pisses me off the most is that I now have to fire right when I should be focusing my shots to the left.

Anonymous True Cruzlim July 21, 2016 11:04 AM  


UPDATE: "Ted Cruz's campaign chair Richard Black says that it's doubtful he'd ever support Cruz again.”


Excellent! Now Ted can be the Secret King of his own campaign!

Blogger Mr.MantraMan July 21, 2016 11:06 AM  

Politically Trump can now cut the Evangelical leadership of shit (and they are virtue signaling shitstains) out of the loop and approach the Delta evangelicals directly.

Sure the Deltas have to go to church and listen to the big men of town and their luxury SUV driving wives hector them per usual, but I think the Deltas and their wives are ready for new leadership, in the form of DJT.

DJT is a man of his word and he is loyal, the evangelical leadership of shit wastes their time trying to virtue signal the Left, "Geez dear how many head chopping refugees can we bring to our town to rape the girls, stab the boys and waste the Delta's tax dollars on educating them?" over the concerns to the church going Deltas.

You Cruz cucks know what I am talking about don't you?

OpenID dudequest July 21, 2016 11:07 AM  

A Day with Ted Cruz is like a snow day from school.
No Class.
You don't violate an oath.

Anonymous VFM #6306 July 21, 2016 11:12 AM  

Jephthah kept the vow to commit his daughter to temple service and a life of isolation (since her one request was to weep with her friends since she would never marry.) Cruz didn't keep it.

He is dumber than Jepthah, and demonstrably more proud and less honorable.

Blogger The Gray Man July 21, 2016 11:17 AM  

Why are so many of you dead-set on trying to explain Cruz's behavior as non-gamma?

I will admit that prior to this it was hard to be 100% sure, but Vox laid out a case that cannot be argued with anymore. Cruz is a gamma.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents July 21, 2016 11:19 AM  

Politically Trump can now cut the Evangelical leadership of shit (and they are virtue signaling shitstains) out of the loop and approach the Delta evangelicals directly.

Those Evangelicals who have been publicly agonizing over the choice, oh, The Choice between Trump and Hillary Rodan Clinton are in a hard place, now, because they just about all Cruz supporters. Cruz has now shown himself to be an oathbreaker.

All that handwringing about Trump and divorce, Trump and morality, etc. should come back to bite them; Cruz and promises. But it won’t, because far too many public Evangelical figures are cuckservatives.

Trump has talked over the heads of the GOPe cucks directly to the people. He should do the same with the evangelicals; the leadership of far too many churches is cucked up and due for replacement anyway.

Anonymous Jim Scrummy July 21, 2016 11:19 AM  

Gee, I was told by many Cruz supporters that he was a man of "integrity". Uh huh. Hmmm, a man of integrity keeps his word. Teddy is a POS gamma. What a little wussie.

Blogger Diego Del Sol July 21, 2016 11:22 AM  

@58
I'm in healthcare IT and surrounded by women all day. Most of them are dumpy, middle-aged 3's and 4's, which is visually depressing. However, most of them are actually fairly competent and pleasant on interaction which helps a lot with getting through the day. Being pleasant doesn't actually make them more attractive, but it buffers impact of them not being attractive. On the rare occasion that I'm working with an actually attractive and pleasant woman, the time just flies by. There are one or two attractive ones who are also morons and a PITA to deal with no matter how short the duration.

Blogger Shimshon July 21, 2016 11:23 AM  

@76 Exactly. Among his peers, national politicians, he's a total gamma. As Vox said, it's fractal. At our peon level, perhaps he's alpha.

But if you watch that hilarious video where Ted approaches a group of Trump supporters and tries to persuade them dialectically that Trump Bad...well that's gamma too.

Anonymous Andrew E. July 21, 2016 11:24 AM  

Why are there morons here who accept this loser's [Cruz] version of events. As you will recall, Trump's attack on Heidi was a hardball retaliation for the Cruz campaign's labeling Melania a tart. And it worked. Nobody messed with Melania again after that.

And people who are actually paying attention to events will recall that Trump called into one of the morning shows the day of the Indiana primary was asked to react to audio of Ted Cruz Sr. from the day before that essentially had Cruz Sr. saying if you don't vote Cruz you're voting for evil. Yes, the entire Cruz male line seems to be made of tone deaf smarmy preacher types. Properly ticked off, Trump referenced a story reported that morning in a Miami paper (not just the National Enquirer) that had to do with a photo from summer '63 that looked like it may have showed Cruz Sr. along with Lee Harvey Oswald. Again, hardball retaliation.

Get the facts right.

Anonymous Arcturus_Rann July 21, 2016 11:32 AM  

lowercaseb wrote:Back in March, it looked like he was going to be lawyered out of the nomination, but that didn't matter. Trump agreed to the oath at the beginning. If he broke it, I would be aghast and appalled that I would have to vote for someone else. I might have even sat out the election, but that would be petulant and childish on my part. I would be angry with the GOPe for thwarting the will of the intended will of the voters, and I would have railed at length at the idiocy of giving that oath in the first place.



No, it doesn't matter. Trump took the pledge and then publicly stated his intent to break it. He's a liar.

I'll still vote for him, but that doesn't make him more honest.

Sitting out an election is a perfectly reasonable response. The folks who sat out instead of voting for Romney in 2008 weren't be childish, they realized that pragmatic voting rarely ends well.

Blogger S1AL July 21, 2016 11:35 AM  

"Why are so many of you dead-set on trying to explain Cruz's behavior as non-gamma?

I will admit that prior to this it was hard to be 100% sure, but Vox laid out a case that cannot be argued with anymore. Cruz is a gamma."

Because there are things that don't fit. Gammas care. Cruz does not appear to care. Any other gamma ever discussed here would have undergone a full-blown meltdown at this point. Cruz screwed up royally, but he's not not having a meltdown.

So the question is why he's not following the gamma pattern if he's a gamma.

Blogger The Gray Man July 21, 2016 11:38 AM  

Cruz is having a meltdown. Why else do you think he was in front of the Texas delegation trying to win them back over?

He is acting just like the other gammas out there like Matt Walsh and Ben Shapiro.

Blogger S1AL July 21, 2016 11:40 AM  

"Cruz is having a meltdown. Why else do you think he was in front of the Texas delegation trying to win them back over?"

That's not what a meltdown is.

Blogger haus frau July 21, 2016 11:41 AM  

@41 Cruz is doubling down on why pooping in the punchbowl was a "principled" thing to do...
And Fox is playing the vid of the debate in which he pledged to support Trump, "because I'm a man of my word." Clearly NOT.
Also, social media is abuzz with Hilldog and pack's congratulations to Cruz. That says it all, folks!

Cruz joined Obama on his jet a few weeks past. Makes me wonder why the One True Conservative is so careless in his association with unpopular Democrats. Being praised by Hillary supporters is the cherry on top of this outrage theater. The man is truly tone deaf.
http://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/ted-cruz-fails-to-learn-the-lessons-of-donald-trump/

Blogger Timmy3 July 21, 2016 11:42 AM  

The whole Cruz thing is driving me nuts. I guess if that's his intent, it made a definite impression. Exactly what principles is he standing for. He most recently said he can't support someone that attacks his wife and father. Then why did he even bother showing up and be as close as possible to Trump on the same stage. If I can't stand someone, I will stay clear. I also wouldn't imply I would support Hillary for a vote not going to Trump is going for Hillary.

Trump looks bad nonetheless. He never should have allowed Cruz to speak. I suppose this is a game where he let's Cruz self-destruct; however, he can still take Trump down with him.

Blogger Gaiseric July 21, 2016 11:44 AM  

Arcturus_Rann wrote:lowercaseb wrote:Back in March, it looked like he was going to be lawyered out of the nomination, but that didn't matter. Trump agreed to the oath at the beginning. If he broke it, I would be aghast and appalled that I would have to vote for someone else. I might have even sat out the election, but that would be petulant and childish on my part. I would be angry with the GOPe for thwarting the will of the intended will of the voters, and I would have railed at length at the idiocy of giving that oath in the first place.

No, it doesn't matter. Trump took the pledge and then publicly stated his intent to break it. He's a liar.

I'll still vote for him, but that doesn't make him more honest.

That is itself a lie. What Trump said was that if the RNC broke their promise to him then he was free to ignore the promise made to them, since it was a reciprocal promise; a verbal contract. If the RNC was in breach, then he had no obligation to uphold his end of the verbal contract either.

That is nothing at all like him stating upfront that he would break his promise except to the dishonest like you.

Blogger Gaiseric July 21, 2016 11:47 AM  

Timmy3 wrote:Trump looks bad nonetheless. He never should have allowed Cruz to speak. I suppose this is a game where he let's Cruz self-destruct; however, he can still take Trump down with him.
No he doesn't. Trump just publicly executed the #NeverTrump movement at the RNC, looking masterful and magnanimous at the same time. It doesn't make Trump look bad at all, and there's no way at all Cruz is taking Trump down with him. Anyone who thinks that is really seriously over-estimating Cruz's appeal, even to the trucons.

Blogger Scott6584 July 21, 2016 11:48 AM  

Although Ted Cruz was not my first, or even my second choice (I preferred both Scott Walker and Rick Perry), I have steadfastly supported him over Donald Trump. However, I think Cruz damaged himself last night.

I think the decision to not endorse Trump based on the personal insults Trump levied toward him, his wife, and his father is perfectly defensible. What is not defensible is trying to defiantly show up Trump at the convention. If Trump had never won the delegates outright to secure the nomination prior to the convention, I would have fully supported a contested convention. But Trump won. Showing his bitterness at losing by giving the speech Cruz gave was weak. It would have been more noble to simply decline the invitation to speak at all.

As for Trump, I hope he will turn his guns on the Democrats and bureaucrats and cease the spiteful mini-war with other Repubicans. I am very encouraged by the reported plan of Trump and Chrisie to purge the federal appointees of Obama. I hope they go even further to trim the size of the federal bureaucracy. And much of the military administration needs to be purged as well.

We'll see what happens in November. Fortunately for Trump, he is up against perhaps the worst Democratic candidate since George McGovern.

Anonymous Andrew E. July 21, 2016 11:51 AM  

I think the decision to not endorse Trump based on the personal insults Trump levied toward him, his wife, and his father is perfectly defensible.

Except that's not how things actually went down.

Anonymous Gen. Kong July 21, 2016 11:52 AM  

He'll probably change his name to Ted Phoenix-Sachs and move to Sun City. The drooling cancerous old zombie Adm. Juan Juar-hero 'Batshit' McAmnesty needs replacement soon. The morons out there will vote for anything wearing an R-jersey.

Blogger Karl July 21, 2016 11:52 AM  

Here's a re-interpretation of Cruz's "kickoff" in soccer form, courtesy of Minnesota United FC goalie.

https://twitter.com/RShaverSports/status/755962553751203840/video/1

Blogger VD July 21, 2016 11:53 AM  

Why are so many of you dead-set on trying to explain Cruz's behavior as non-gamma?

For the most part, they are either gammas who approve of his behavior and don't want to see it that way or they are irrationally opposed to Trump.

Because there are things that don't fit. Gammas care. Cruz does not appear to care. Any other gamma ever discussed here would have undergone a full-blown meltdown at this point. Cruz screwed up royally, but he's not not having a meltdown.

Cruz absolutely cares. That's why he tried to go to Adelson right afterwards. That's why he's gone to the Texas delegation.

Gammas double down, they don't necessarily melt down. Cruz is doing that.

Blogger residentMoron July 21, 2016 11:55 AM  

Scott,

Thenew UK prime minister just abolished their department of climate change. You can bet a lot of bureaucratic mandarins, who thought THEY were the permanent part of government, really really don't want that to become a trend.

But it can happen.

Blogger Scott6584 July 21, 2016 11:56 AM  

The Gray Man wrote:Why are so many of you dead-set on trying to explain Cruz's behavior as non-gamma?

I will admit that prior to this it was hard to be 100% sure, but Vox laid out a case that cannot be argued with anymore. Cruz is a gamma.


Trying to classify Cruz as Alpha-Beta-Gamma-Sigma is immaterial. It really doesn't matter. Cruz harmed himself last night, not Trump. All he did is bolster Trump's standing among those who despise the status quo. He didn't hurt Trump at all. I can think of many ways that Cruz could have stood up for his family, and yet kept his word to support the nominee also. But what is the point of arguing hypotheticals. Cruz chose badly. End of story.

Blogger NHForester July 21, 2016 11:58 AM  

By 2020 Heidi will have branch swung, taken half of what they own while getting sole custody of the kids and he will either be working the phones at the 700 club or selling used cars somewhere in TX or Fl.

Anonymous Sam the Man July 21, 2016 12:01 PM  

Trumps comments back in March 2016 were different, the RNC was attempting to pull a few tricks that would blatantly favor other candidates. He specifically said if they went through on what were obvious non neutral electoral actions, he would no longer be bound by his pledge.

The RNC backed down, sort of, through they continued to bad mouth him.

Teds action at the convection was different. He tried to use clever lawyer words to create disunity, to through the election if possible to Hillary so he would be in a position to get the nomination in 4 years. Such an action does not indicate Cruz has loyalty to G-d, but that he is his won personal G-d. The wifey and I were gob smacked by how retarded his action was.

As for his justification that Trump was a mean to his wife and father:

The whole thing started when Teds campaign, who paid the fee to use the nude picture of Trumps model wife, use that photo through a surrogate to help win Utah. Recall Utah has a rather hidden polygamy system, and like all such societies showing female skin is looked down on, a it might encourage the guys without women to roger the wife(s) of old rich men. it was a dirty trick by Cruz and his surrogates. it was followed by a speech by Heidi where she blasted Trump, safe in the knowledge that his he said anything she would claim he was a mean man picking on a woman. They were trying to Troll Trump.

Trump responded by tweeting a picture that showed his Melina was hot and Heidi was fat. Apparently Heidi could not rest on here accolades as a lawyer and banker, being publically shown to be less attractive then a super model was traumatic, both to her and her Husband. Something if off with this, it is not normal behavior by either Cruz of his wife.

With regards to the Father:

Just before Trump went after him he was attaching Trump. Trumps response was to point out he had less than a stellar record back in 63', in fact there was evidence he was on Castro's side. The reason Cruz went off on that was he had implied in mentioning his father that his father was anti-Castro, when the evidence was otherwise.

One must also examine how Cruz behaved during the primary. He lied about tums positions frequently saying Trump stood for things Trump had most certainly not said. He did not do this once, but numerous times in speeches Least the Cruz folks as for an example I will provide 1) Cruz repeatedly said trump was anti-gun, when he was most certainly not, indeed pro-gun was one of his 6 planks on Trumps web site. Cruz was a liar.

So Cruz seemingly forgets his own transgressions and holds Trump to a much higher standard then himself. His sanctimonious defense that Trump was mean conveniently forgets all of Cruz's bad behavior, of which there was a lot (another example, the lying about Carson on the night of the Iowa caucus)

I have not given that much credulence to Vox's alpha/beta/delta/gamma hierarchy, but I must admit it really does predict the Cruz train wreck like no to the theory. Of course gamma may also correlate to narcissist/sociopath, which also describe Cruz.

In this case the Primaries did vet the candidates and show up how they act under pressure.

Blogger Scott6584 July 21, 2016 12:02 PM  

Andrew E. wrote:I think the decision to not endorse Trump based on the personal insults Trump levied toward him, his wife, and his father is perfectly defensible.

Except that's not how things actually went down.


So, you want to get into a pissing match about who behaved more badly, and who was or was not justified in his bad behavior? Seriously? What is hte point?

It's over. You won. Accept victory and move on. There is nothing to be gained in kicking those who lost. It's unbecoming for the victor to gloat. Let the losers lick their wounds and heal. Seriously. Everyone will forget about Cruz in a week. It has no bearing on November - unless you use it to continue to alienate those who supported Cruz instead of encouraging them to heal and move on. So, your choice. Rip the scab off their wounds and gloat, or allow them to recover and support Trump. What will you choose???

Anonymous Arcturus_Rann July 21, 2016 12:03 PM  

Gaiseric wrote:That is itself a lie. What Trump said was that if the RNC broke their promise to him then he was free to ignore the promise made to them, since it was a reciprocal promise; a verbal contract. If the RNC was in breach, then he had no obligation to uphold his end of the verbal contract either.

That is nothing at all like him stating upfront that he would break his promise except to the dishonest like you.


Stop being a sycophantic excuse-maker and join reality. He said he would support whomever was the nominee, then he stated his intentions to break that pledge. His reason? "I've been treated very unfairly."

That justifies just about anything doesn't it? Either way, the man's a liar.

The "unfair" rules he talked about ended up benefiting him in the end. In Trump's world you are either boot licker or treating him unfairly.

Blogger Teri July 21, 2016 12:03 PM  

@60, no you are wrong. Trump was the only one that initially did not want to sign the pledge. The rest all held up their hands and said they would not do a third party run. Once Trump signed the pledge, he would have supported it.

And, let's not miss out on why Ted Cruz is a lousy politician. He insulted New Yorkers not once but twice. He called anyone that supported Trump a "low information voter". He is so terribly upset about this supposed attack on his family (which consists of an unflattering picture of his wife and someone's story about his dad raising money with Lee Harvey Oswald). In a general election, it would get much worse. He is a liar and dishonorable. I hope the rumors about Ron Paul's son running against him for Senator are true.

Anonymous VFM #6306 July 21, 2016 12:04 PM  

Cruz's speech is the Red Wedding of NeverTrump.

Anonymous Rolf July 21, 2016 12:05 PM  

@25 - Political Darwin Award: do we have one?

We do now. The Cruzy.

Use: Wow, did you hear that Representative Snollygoster's speech? He was seriously trying to earn a Cruzy insulting his base like that.

Blogger Markku July 21, 2016 12:06 PM  

This is so enjoyable that personally I vote for the dogpile, even if there is a theoretical chance of it alienating some small portion of NeverTrumpers.

Anonymous #3254 July 21, 2016 12:09 PM  

Scott6584: It's over. You won. Accept victory and move on. There is nothing to be gained in kicking those who lost. It's unbecoming for the victor to gloat.

That's what Trump did last night when he said it was no big deal.

Blogger Scott6584 July 21, 2016 12:09 PM  

residentMoron wrote:Scott,

Thenew UK prime minister just abolished their department of climate change. You can bet a lot of bureaucratic mandarins, who thought THEY were the permanent part of government, really really don't want that to become a trend.

But it can happen.


We can hope...

Just for the record, for all you guys who want to refight the battles of March & April, I think you have the wrong perspective. Trump's 2 sentence comment was perfect. He allowed Cruz to vent, and he noted his inconsistency. But you make a mistake in majoring on Cruz.

The real issue that will get Evangelicals to support Trump are the comments of Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Those are much, much, much more significant to Evangelicals than whatever Ted Cruz said last night. Attacking Cruz has no upside. He's already been defeated. Better to concentrate on the opponents who are still in the battlefield than waste time on taunting guys already defeated and sitting in the POW camp.

Anonymous Andrew E. July 21, 2016 12:09 PM  

The whole thing started when Teds campaign, who paid the fee to use the nude picture of Trumps model wife

I don't know that this was ever proven definitively. It was reported and rumored about. But it doesn't matter. Super PACs are nothing more than legalistic loopholes that essentially represent/are identical to official campaigns. The proof in this instance was that the Super PAC Melania ads stopped immediately after Trump went nuclear on the Cruz campaign (rather than the super pac itself).

Blogger NHForester July 21, 2016 12:09 PM  

@ 62 - Isn't that the truth !

Charm is deceitful, and beauty is vain,
but a woman who fears the Lord is to be praised.
Proverbs 31: 30

Blogger Scott6584 July 21, 2016 12:10 PM  

#3254 wrote:Scott6584: It's over. You won. Accept victory and move on. There is nothing to be gained in kicking those who lost. It's unbecoming for the victor to gloat.

That's what Trump did last night when he said it was no big deal.


Agreed. His supporters need to follow his lead.

Blogger Robert Divinity July 21, 2016 12:12 PM  

UPDATE: "Ted Cruz's campaign chair Richard Black says that it's doubtful he'd ever support Cruz again.”

Excellent! Now Ted can be the Secret King of his own campaign!


Priceless. Watch for the dwindling #nevertrump cucks to try to slither into anonymity in rather short order.

Trump's focus is the Cruz voter, not the passive/aggressive ladyman himself. The Cruz supporters in even the Texas delegation have gone ballistic on their former choice. Trump has handled it well. He just sat back and picked up Cruz's votes as he proved most of the knocks on him. Again, I see quite a bit of Borderline Personality Disorder in Cruz.

Re the evangelicals, one of the under-reported aspects of this campaign was their split with Big Bible, Inc. BBI beat the Cruz drum and the evangelicals ignored the sound and voted Trump in many, many instances. Even some former elements of Big Bible, Inc., such as Liberty University, peeled off from the hypocritical globalist Churchians.

Did Trump and/or his campaign plot this self-destruction of the last remnants of #nevertrump? Who knows, and it ultimately doesn't matter. Cruz's votes matter, and how Trump handled this psychopath makes it easier for him to gather them.

Blogger NHForester July 21, 2016 12:12 PM  

@73
Well said ! It will be a breath of fresh air blowing through the dank, stale pews.

Blogger tz July 21, 2016 12:14 PM  

No trump colored glasses explained concisely: We are hiring Billy the Exterminator to get the RINOs off our property and know he's weird but he will get the job done.

Gammas have more Hubris than Alphas. Gammas can never be wrong, so watch Cruz continue to ignore calls from everyone to put out the fire and explain he is the most principled, righteous, godly candidate evah! (Ron Paul was, and might have done the same thing if given the speaking slot, but even that wasn't allowed in 2012).

Alphas get past a failure and learn from it. Gammas just whine, do self-esteem litanies "I'm getting better and better every day", said they intended the outcome, etc.

The sliminess, the ugliness, the betrayal was obvious of Cruz and #NeverTrump was made perfectly clear and visible for all to see.

No one now wants to be associated with that Lyin' Loser. Those who didn't really like Trump were forced to decide - Either Traitorous Ted or Trump. Most are choosing Trump who has not been ugly or nasty or aggressive against anyone but Crooked Hillary since his win. Trump is magnanimous in victory. Cruz is a sore loser and it was in such a way no once can see it as principle.

Anonymous Arcturus_Rann July 21, 2016 12:14 PM  

Teri wrote:@60, no you are wrong. Trump was the only one that initially did not want to sign the pledge. The rest all held up their hands and said they would not do a third party run. Once Trump signed the pledge, he would have supported it.

Except he said he wouldn't after he signed it, but he won so it doesn't matter.

Pledge aside, he's still responsible for a list of lies as long as my arm, so let's stop holding Trump up as this honest man of great integrity.

He's not even close.

Anonymous VFM #6306 July 21, 2016 12:18 PM  

Attacking Cruz has tons of upside, chief of which is that the end result is that Cruz ends up being attacked.

That hooknosed Cuban-Canadian globalist is the poster boy for the people who belong on the other side of the wall.

Anonymous Andrew E. July 21, 2016 12:22 PM  

For the record, I don't take this pledge stuff seriously. And don't care that Cruz re-nigged on his 'pledge'. If you honestly can't stand someone, and you didn't realize it back when you signed some silly piece of paper with no legal standing, then do what you fell is right. Just don't lie about the circumstances.

Blogger pyrrhus July 21, 2016 12:22 PM  

Cruz is a classic narcissist...He can't do the right thing even when doing the right thing would be a thousand times better for him....

Blogger Billy July 21, 2016 12:23 PM  

I knew it was over for him as soon as that booger dropped on his lip during the debate.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother July 21, 2016 12:23 PM  

Scotty Numbers,

You have to be kicked repeatedly and viciously because cuck gammas like you and the rest of the Cruz fan base will never admit defeat. The fact that you have done so just now is astonishing.

Blogger S1AL July 21, 2016 12:23 PM  

"Cruz absolutely cares. That's why he tried to go to Adelson right afterwards. That's why he's gone to the Texas delegation."

I should have been clearer. Gammas care about what people think of them and how they are treated publicly. Cruz's response to the booing, and the manner of his speech to the Texas delegation doesn't look like someone who gives a whit about that.

Again, maybe I'm completely wrong, but it just doesn't look like gamma rage.

As for doubling down... is it doubling down if he repeats the exact same thing to the Texas delegation? I'm not entirely clear on that issue.

Blogger Gaiseric July 21, 2016 12:24 PM  

Arcturus_Rann wrote:That justifies just about anything doesn't it? Either way, the man's a liar.
No, it doesn't. And you making up hypothetical situations to then prove that in a hypothetical situation Trump lied so therefore he's a liar isn't a very impressive technique at convincing anyone of anything either.

Blogger tz July 21, 2016 12:24 PM  

Ah, the evangelicals. This is the best part. No one can like or respect someone that is invited to a peace conference and disrupts it. If he hated Trump he should be with Romney and the Bushes.

Trying to repair with the Texas Delegation this morning:

Speaking to an incensed Texas delegation, Cruz recalled an answer he gave at a Republican debate this year, when he enthusiastically said he would support the party's official nominee.

"The day that was abdicated was the day this became personal," Cruz said. "I'm not going to get into criticizing or attacking Donald Trump, but I'll give you this response: I am not in the habit of supporting people who attack my wife and attack my father."

"And that pledge was not a blanket commitment that if you go and slander and attack Heidi, I'm going to nonetheless come like a servile puppy dog and say thank you very much for maligning my wife and my father," he added.


Ted can't even stop digging the hole deeper.

Anonymous Arcturus_Rann July 21, 2016 12:25 PM  

Reports are coming out today that Trump whips in the crowd had plans to start booing at the end of the speech no matter what Cruz said, and the New York delegation was more than happy to go along. It was a New York revenge play. He could've shifted gears to outright endorse Trump and they still would've booed him.

If true, Trump's still a scumbag, but the man can play the game.

Blogger pyrrhus July 21, 2016 12:25 PM  

@115 The fact that you don't take Cruz breaking his promises "seriously" says a lot about you, nothing about Cruz...

Blogger tz July 21, 2016 12:26 PM  

I should note there will still be #NeverTrump and pro Cruz people but they now have a reputation similar to the Westboro Baptist Church.

Anonymous Broken Arrow July 21, 2016 12:26 PM  

Andrew E. wrote:For the record, I don't take this pledge stuff seriously. And don't care that Cruz re-nigged on his 'pledge'. If you honestly can't stand someone, and you didn't realize it back when you signed some silly piece of paper with no legal standing, then do what you fell is right. Just don't lie about the circumstances.

But let your ‘Yes’ be ‘Yes,’ and your ‘No,’ ‘No.’ For whatever is more than these is from the evil one.

I sure hope that your friends and family don't count on you to keep your word because they will be disappointed.

Blogger clk July 21, 2016 12:27 PM  

I thought Cruz was an ass during the primary but I have to say this was pretty smart on his part here -- its one of the only plays he had and... yes its a hail mary play for sure but if Trump loses by really big numbers and the Republicans get sweep from power, he is positioned in good place for 2020. Evangelicals/religious have made a Faustian bargain with Trump that they may not be able to stomach for long and will be looking for Cruz or someone like him to lead them back... thats Cruz in 2020.

This is must see TV .. Trump is the consummate entertainer and big top ring leader -- Tonight and the rest of the season until Nov cant be missed -- Yes I would like to have a serious campaign with candidates interested in actually fixing America, with actual plans and platforms ... but really what was the chances of that happening with the choices on either side. So while Rome may be burning, at least we will be entertained...


Anonymous Credo in Unum Deum July 21, 2016 12:28 PM  

Ted Cruz could've supported Trump without saying "I endorse..." And still walked away from that speech with some dignity.

He could have set himself up for a 2020 run against Hillary (In the event Trump loses, --Perish the thought!--), or a 2024 run.

He chose not to do that.

He is an idiot.

Anonymous Sazerac July 21, 2016 12:30 PM  

A few months ago I stated on VP that Cruz was not a Sigma but probably a gamma and got some rounds from a certain gun in my direction for doing so.

That was fair, I even had my doubts about it but two things set off my alarm bells.

1) Just because he hooked up with some women doesn't mean anything, the women he hooked up with were no doubt attracted to him due to his political status and the women he hooked up with were time bombs to his goals. He got some female attention he hadn't received before and jumped at the opportunity instead of taking a step back and evaluating if it was worth it.

2) He had an obvious but delayed avenue to his goals. Let Trump be the wrecking ball and follow after him. Instead he doubled down turning himself into a political version of a suicide bomber.

Blogger Gaiseric July 21, 2016 12:30 PM  

Scott6584 wrote:Just for the record, for all you guys who want to refight the battles of March & April, I think you have the wrong perspective. Trump's 2 sentence comment was perfect. He allowed Cruz to vent, and he noted his inconsistency. But you make a mistake in majoring on Cruz.
That's some pretty interesting logic. Cruz is in the news again due to his own actions at publicly attempting a failed kamikaze attack at the RNC, but it's the Trump supporters who need to stop "attacking" Cruz. Suddenly for the first time in months, Cruz supporters are posting here again, bitterly and passive-aggressively calling everyone else names for being right, and it's the Trump supporters who need to stop fighting "March and April's battles." Cruz, and many of his supporters, just attempted a sucker punch sneak attack and the Trump supporters are the big ole meanies because we didn't let them just get away with it.

I think the real question isn't whether or not Cruz is himself a gamma; the real question is if being a Cruz supporter is itself a reliable gamma tell.

Blogger tz July 21, 2016 12:31 PM  

@115 - note this was at a time everyone was criticizing Trump for delaying signing the pledge - and then Trump signed it and posted a picture of himself holding the signed pledge. Cruz promised and was sniggering that Trump wasn't a real republican because he wouldn't sign the pledge.

Ron Paul didn't and wouldn't and he did so on principle. He was clear and never changed on anything for three decades.

Cruz could redefine or look for loopholes, or "some principles are more principled than others".

Blogger Avalanche July 21, 2016 12:32 PM  

@41 "Cruz ... social media is abuzz with Hilldog and pack's congratulations to Cruz. That says it all, folks!"

So, party-switch coming up? The "new" "religious Left"? Led by poor mistreated secret-prez Lyin' Ted?

Blogger VD July 21, 2016 12:32 PM  

I have to say this was pretty smart on his part here -- its one of the only plays he had and... yes its a hail mary play for sure but if Trump loses by really big numbers and the Republicans get sweep from power, he is positioned in good place for 2020.

The power players won't even talk to him, are openly calling him "a piece of shit", and you think it was a smart play?

No. No, it was not.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents July 21, 2016 12:33 PM  

@122Reports are coming out today that Trump whips in the crowd had plans to start booing at the end of the speech no matter what Cruz said,

Cool story. Where can I find these reports, bro?

Blogger Billy July 21, 2016 12:33 PM  

@122 Please take a minute and pull your head out of your ass. Have you not comprehended anything. How the hell can you follow this blog and still be of that opinion. Lord have mercy. Some fucking people are encourageable. I know damn well half the republican base fell to lure of Cruz's so called conservative bonafides, but damn brother your privy to altright via website and your spouting stupid shit.

Blogger clk July 21, 2016 12:33 PM  

"Trump's still a scumbag" ... yeah but who isn't in this race (maybe Bernie, Walker, Paul)... but we get what we deserve and apparently we deserve these two candidates.

Anonymous #8601 Jean Valjean July 21, 2016 12:33 PM  

don't care that Cruz re-nigged on his 'pledge

America may re-nig.

Blogger VD July 21, 2016 12:34 PM  

A few months ago I stated on VP that Cruz was not a Sigma but probably a gamma and got some rounds from a certain gun in my direction for doing so.

I think you were the first to see it. Well done.

Anonymous Arcturus_Rann July 21, 2016 12:34 PM  

Gaiseric wrote:No, it doesn't. And you making up hypothetical situations to then prove that in a hypothetical situation Trump lied so therefore he's a liar isn't a very impressive technique at convincing anyone of anything either.

The man publicly said he was going to go back on his pledge. Was he lying about that?

That he never had the opportunity to do so is meaningless. He outright said that he wasn't going to keep his word. So either he was lying when he made the pledge or lying when he said he was going to break it. It's still a lie.

Go find "convincing" someplace else. The truth is the truth.

Pledge or no pledge, It's not like we can't field a whole lineup of lies and contradictions from Trump.

Anonymous Rolf July 21, 2016 12:36 PM  

Usually politicians don't go there, but I hear that Cruz is planning on attending Burning Man this August.

In all seriousness, though, can you imagine the headlines the media would scream if there was a major fracture in the Dem party convention? Yah, me neither. It's be quietly explained away and swept under the rug as a misunderstanding before the night was over. But I think it will be good for the R party in the long run, as least until it can be replaced with a proper Alt-Right party.

Blogger John M July 21, 2016 12:37 PM  

clk wrote:I thought Cruz was an ass during the primary but I have to say this was pretty smart on his part here -- its one of the only plays he had and... yes its a hail mary play for sure but if Trump loses by really big numbers and the Republicans get sweep from power, he is positioned in good place for 2020.

If Trump loses, people like Cruz will get the bulk of the blame for being more interested in shooting those in their side than those on the other side. And a large number of voters will never forgive Cruz for his selfishness.

Anonymous Arcturus_Rann July 21, 2016 12:37 PM  

clk wrote:"Trump's still a scumbag" ... yeah but who isn't in this race (maybe Bernie, Walker, Paul)... but we get what we deserve and apparently we deserve these two candidates.

I don't disagree...as sad as that is.

Blogger Nick S July 21, 2016 12:41 PM  

Cruz could redefine or look for loopholes, or "some principles are more principled than others".

Or just admit he made a stupid mistake and be done with it. Not likely.

More significantly, Laura Ingraham killed it last night. I don't think she's exceptionally good looking, but I think I might have felt a little tingle (and not in a True Buckaroo sortt of way) in my nether regions during her speech.

Anonymous Arcturus_Rann July 21, 2016 12:42 PM  

Billy wrote:@122 Please take a minute and pull your head out of your ass. Have you not comprehended anything. How the hell can you follow this blog and still be of that opinion. Lord have mercy. Some fucking people are encourageable. I know damn well half the republican base fell to lure of Cruz's so called conservative bonafides, but damn brother your privy to altright via website and your spouting stupid shit.

Which opinion? That Trump set Cruz up or that Trump is a scumbag?

If Trump set Cruz up that only makes me more confident in Trump. Scumbags can be useful at getting the job done, so I don't see a problem there either.

Just because I'm not exalting the man doesn't mean I don't see his usefulness.

Blogger clk July 21, 2016 12:43 PM  

"The power players won't even talk to him, are openly calling him "a piece of shit", and you think it was a smart play?"

What other routes were open to him ? You admire Trump when he stakes out a position and then doubles down ... thats what Cruz did here. You take about Trump being the first of the outside candidates and if he doesn't win he will be followed up by another -- Cruz wants to be the 2020 candidate.. and this is his only path which only exists if Trump loses or turns out to be a terrible president ... if Trump is great, Ted had no chance anyway.

Power players ? you are expecting loyalty there ...? Memories are short in that crowd.

Anonymous Sam the Man July 21, 2016 12:43 PM  

126:

Ahhh...no. If Trump goes down to defeat most of us will think Ted Cruz had something to do with that defeat. His action last night was intended to give never Trump folks cover. He basically validated their position, when the republicans need every last vote.

his actions indicate a man who cares about himself only. if you doubt that, please show me one example where Teds cruz's supposedly principle actually resulted in an action that was detrimental to his success. Not exmapels where he misread the political landscape, but where he was in a postion to get something and stepped back saying principle would not allow it.

he is a narcissist of the highest order, likely a sociopath and the republican voters will likely never even vote to make him dogcatcher.

And the more It think about the Gamma classification, the more it seems Vox's ideal makes sense. There was no real insult to Cruz in the wife tweet, just a comparison of the relative beauty of the two women. Heidi Cruz was a pretty accomplished women, Melina was not in terms of degree/job achievements, other than being hot (and speaking 5 languages). Melina is hot, Heidi could stand to lose about 12~18 pounds (then she might look decent in a princess Leia bikini and not quite so frumpy)

If there was not some part of this being sexual status/deep insecurity Cruz would have laughed it off like a normal guy would. I mean really how many wives are going to be better looking than a super model, not many. The fact it got to him on such an emotional level he still has not gotten over it indicates the whole gamma thing has a lot of merit as a model.

Blogger Cataline Sergius July 21, 2016 12:44 PM  

Cruz explained to the person why the pledge he made supporting the nominee was abrogated, pointing out that...

Cruz didn't stay bought. There is no greater crime for a Washington Politician.

Anonymous Arcturus_Rann July 21, 2016 12:46 PM  

A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents wrote:Cool story. Where can I find these reports, bro?

A few different outlets this morning. Just Google it.

Blogger Avalanche July 21, 2016 12:48 PM  

@91 "giving the speech Cruz gave was weak. It would have been more noble to simply decline the invitation to speak at all."

I think he really believed that when he 'spoke to the people'at the Con., the people would suddenly realize they loved him after all! To his ... horror? shock? that did not happen. And when he ran to money-bags Adelson for support and solace -- "OMG! Even HE doesn't want me?!" Now, he's hoping the Texans still love him? (oops.)

Six-yr-old bully boy discovering no one on the playground will love him, not even the teachers and the parents!! waaaa waaaa waaa!

Blogger VD July 21, 2016 12:49 PM  

What other routes were open to him ?

He could have been Trump's VP if he had supported him earlier. He could have won credit with the party elders by campaigning hard for Trump, convinced them that he was a team player, and been in a good position to challenge Rubio in 2020 if Trump lost.

What he did was EPICALLY stupid. I mean, either Gamma incontinent stupid or Asperger's clueless stupid.

You admire Trump when he stakes out a position and then doubles down ... thats what Cruz did here.

No, it is not. John Kasich and Jeb Bush staked out stronger positions. Cruz tried to have it both ways. Again, EPICALLY stupid. If he was not going to support Trump, he should not have shown up at the convention or accepted the invitation to speak.

Power players ? you are expecting loyalty there ...? Memories are short in that crowd.

You have it backwards. They have very long memories. They've always doubted Cruz's ability to be a team player. Now they know he isn't a team player and he's got no sense. Cruz had nothing to gain and everything to lose by that stunt. And he lost.

Blogger clk July 21, 2016 12:49 PM  

"If Trump loses, people like Cruz will get the bulk of the blame for being more interested in shooting those in their side than those on the other side."

Depends on how and why Trump losses ... remember in the end Cruz has to be Cruz, and he plays the cards dealt -- its a hail mary for sure but if you are honest, for Cruz, what other plays did he have ?

Anonymous Andrew E. July 21, 2016 12:51 PM  

I sure hope that your friends and family don't count on you to keep your word because they will be disappointed.

Anyone watching the several times Cruz was asked in the spring if he would support the eventual nominee, even if it was Trump, could see he was seriously conflicted about how to answer and gave the answer he felt he had no choice but to give. Trump even remarked to Anderson Cooper during a town hall days before the Wisconsin primary how visibly tortured Cruz looked when trying to answer. And Trump said he didn't want Cruz to do anything he wasn't comfortable doing -- re. endorsements.

Blogger Jack Ward July 21, 2016 12:52 PM  

@121
Someone please correct me should I be wrong. But, did not Cruz first attach Trump's family which led to Trump lowering the boom on Cruz' folk?
I cannot remember the time line but do remember the barbs back and forth.
Thank You

Blogger tz July 21, 2016 12:54 PM  

Another bit of irony was Pence's "endorsement" of Cruz in the Indiana Primary:

"Now, I have met with all three of the candidates as of about Tuesday of this week. And I want to say, I like and respect all three of the Republican candidates in the field. I particularly want to commend Donald Trump, who I think has given voice to the frustration of millions of working Americans with a lack of progress in Washington, D.C.," Pence said on conservative radio host Greg Garrison's show in Indianapolis.

"And I'm also particularly grateful that Donald Trump has taken a strong stand for Hoosier jobs when we saw jobs in the Carrier company abruptly announce leaving Indiana not for another state but for Mexico," he continued. "I'm grateful for his voice in the national debate. Let me say, I've come to my decision about who I'm supporting and I'm not against anybody, but I will be voting for Ted Cruz in the upcoming Republican primary."


Cruz couldn't even do something like that.

Blogger Steve Moss July 21, 2016 12:55 PM  

I don't know whether this socio-sexual analysis is worth anything.

What I do know is that Ted Cruz was invited on the stage, and given the opportunity to showcase himself to the American public, Donald Trump. If he wasn't going to endorse Trump, he should have never walked onto that stage. He could have given that speech in the Senate hallway to whatever reporters were interested.

I say this as a voter who progressed from Walker>Carson>Cruz>Trump.

Blogger tz July 21, 2016 12:55 PM  

@152 The Cruz campaign showed an old pic of Milania that showed a bit much for Utah, and Trump hit back.

Blogger VFM #7634 July 21, 2016 12:58 PM  

@128 Sazerac

A few months ago I stated on VP that Cruz was not a Sigma but probably a gamma and got some rounds from a certain gun in my direction for doing so.

Your gamma-dar is better than most. Compared to Jeb and Miss Lindsey, Lyin' Ted was considerably harder to catch.

That was fair, I even had my doubts about it but two things set off my alarm bells.

1) Just because he hooked up with some women doesn't mean anything, the women he hooked up with were no doubt attracted to him due to his political status and the women he hooked up with were time bombs to his goals. He got some female attention he hadn't received before and jumped at the opportunity instead of taking a step back and evaluating if it was worth it.


Amanda Carpenter no doubt felt disgusted with him after Indiana.

2) He had an obvious but delayed avenue to his goals. Let Trump be the wrecking ball and follow after him. Instead he doubled down turning himself into a political version of a suicide bomber.

His gamma nature started leaking out once he and Trump started really going one-on-one. The fact that the gammas in the Republican party overwhelmingly backed him over Trump should have been one crucial bit of the puzzle as well.

Anonymous Rhetoric Man July 21, 2016 1:00 PM  

"The power players won't even talk to him..."

Cruz owes nothing to them, he owes everything to himself and God. Cruz made a boss move. Why cuck for the "power players".

This election is nothing about principles, as the candidates and their supporters, including those here, have eminently displayed.

Blogger Anchorman July 21, 2016 1:00 PM  

As for Trump, I hope he will turn his guns on the Democrats and bureaucrats

Something I noticed about Trump’s speeches is that he rarely attacks Democrats. He makes attacks personal. Hillary. Obama. He doesn’t lump the entire Dem party into his attack.

It’s smart. Smarter than previous career politicians who view the other party as the problem. By widening the scope of the attack, it makes it personal to the Dems who might be persuaded to not vote for Hillary. Not saying he can win their vote, but he disarms the unconscious defense mechanism that springs into action when folks hear “Republicans always” or “Democrats are to blame.”

Blogger pyrrhus July 21, 2016 1:01 PM  

@140 Yes, George Romney stabbed Goldwater in the back in '64, while Nixon supported Barry, and the Republican voters never forgot that...Cruz is finished.

Anonymous Andrew E. July 21, 2016 1:02 PM  

If he wasn't going to endorse Trump, he should have never walked onto that stage.

Circus campaign pledge aside, this is absolutely right.

Blogger tz July 21, 2016 1:04 PM  

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Blogger tz July 21, 2016 1:04 PM  

Trump offered not merely an olive branch but an entire tree and Cruz takes a chainsaw to it and think's he's George Washington.
Speaking of which, Did he give Washington's compass back to Beck. Between that 2 weeks before the Indiana primary thru Trump One interrupting his speech, well lets just say some cursed objects in Supernatural caused far less damage.

Blogger John M July 21, 2016 1:04 PM  

clk wrote:"If Trump loses, people like Cruz will get the bulk of the blame for being more interested in shooting those in their side than those on the other side."

Depends on how and why Trump losses ... remember in the end Cruz has to be Cruz, and he plays the cards dealt -- its a hail mary for sure but if you are honest, for Cruz, what other plays did he have ?


He could have learn from Rubio, just tell people to vote for Trump without sounding like he's Trump's dog. He could have disappeared and come back when the smoke is cleared. Instead he proved that in his head it's all about him, him, him.

Blogger clk July 21, 2016 1:11 PM  

Maybe... I am always willing to accept that I am wrong ... if yesterday was Ted's day to be wrong, maybe today is my day to be wrong.

"He could have been Trump's VP if he had supported him earlier" ... he would have never been the VP choice of Trump ... never, ever, ever. Just ask Christie..

"either Gamma incontinent stupid or Asperger's clueless stupid." I need a better term to describe it - Teds not a gamma and surely not stupid by any objective measure and Asperger stupid doesn't do it justice either -- maybe zealot stupidity :) its not an act with Cruz.. he is an asshole zealot. As someone like yourself who could have easily taken easier, less controversial paths but instead prefers to wave a red flag in front of bulls that would gore you .. I would think you would find him a kindred spirit in some way.

"..John Kasich and Jeb Bush staked out stronger positions" ... now Kasich could be described as playing both sides but I think honestly his issue is he is too nice... Bushs, Romney and the rest of the establishment -- cowards, throwing snowballs from the safety of their backyards .. But maybe we can agree on Ryan ... there's a sellout...

"They have very long memories. They've always doubted Cruz's ability to be a team player" ..

the power players are driven by a desire for influence and if the next cycle there is right Christian conservative party, either part of the repubs or something new, and if it looks like they will be in winners, they will be there. Remember how much money Donald didn't raise in the primary, and how poorly he spoke of them .. and now they are upset over a lack of loyalty ??? very unlikely. These are lizards .. loyalty is not the issue, its making sure the billion they invest in Trump pays off...

Anonymous jacopo July 21, 2016 1:12 PM  

Cruz gammas are coming out of the woodwork doubling and tripling down on that oily pharisee. At least, Cruz and his supporters can still stand on their principles not like those publicans who support Trump. Classic nice guy conceitedness. Do their principles, which I suppose includes dedication to the truth, require them to spit out tu quoques left and right?

Blogger Teri July 21, 2016 1:13 PM  

Rubio was smart enough to know how to handle the pledge issue without looking dishonorable. Had Trump lost, he would have managed to support the nominee. You can say what you want to excuse it, but Cruz is not trustworthy. He should have found a way to honor the pledge instead of making excuses.

Blogger VD July 21, 2016 1:21 PM  

As someone like yourself who could have easily taken easier, less controversial paths but instead prefers to wave a red flag in front of bulls that would gore you .. I would think you would find him a kindred spirit in some way.

And yet I don't. He disgusts me. You can look back to the very start. I have always thought he was a creep and a phony. I never even considered supporting him.

I understand the importance of team play, morale, and loyalty. Ted Cruz does not. No matter how his defenders want to spin it, if he was not going to go out on that stage and endorse Donald Trump with genuine enthusiasm, he never should have walked out on it.

You do NOT accept an invitation into a man's house and shit in his living room. You do not attend a man's party and piss in the punchbowl. That was absolutely epic stupidity. It boggles my mind that Cruz did it, and I seriously wonder about the basic social functionality of anyone who fails to understand what was wrong with it.

Anonymous Sam the Man July 21, 2016 1:27 PM  

One of the things I would ask the guys who are defending Cruz, in light of last night and this morning:

Was Trump right about Ted Cruz being a liar or not?

Yes or No answer. I think that will make things very clear regarding folks defense of principle or at least how they view same.

Blogger Anchorman July 21, 2016 1:27 PM  

Rubio was smart enough to know how to handle the pledge issue without looking dishonorable.

Exactly.

I don’t buy Cruz is doing it solely to stand up for his wife. I think he’s using it as an excuse to give cover for what he wanted to do.

He dropped the ball and, in my opinion, just ensured himself a well-funded Senatorial primary with little to no help from his fellow GOP Senators. They didn’t like him before and this does nothing to help.

The endorsement or lack is really inconsequential, come November.

Trump will move on and make it a simple choice. Trump or Hillary. He will hammer her personally. He will nail her to Obama’s legacy. She will robotically respond with boilerplate talking points. He will look arrogant, but nimble during the debates. She will appear calmer, but won’t adequately parry his jabs.

It will come down to swing states and Cruz’s endorsement wouldn’t carry one way or another in Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida (again, notice Rubio said he’d endorse).

Regardless, I’m finished talking about this.

Blogger Scott6584 July 21, 2016 1:31 PM  

Stg58/Animal Mother wrote:Scotty Numbers,

You have to be kicked repeatedly and viciously because cuck gammas like you and the rest of the Cruz fan base will never admit defeat. The fact that you have done so just now is astonishing.


LOL. I was never a hard-line Cruz supporter, and was saying nice things about Trump right up until he went after Cruz's wife. I really didn't like that, and still don't.

As for me being Gamma, whatever dude. You don't know me. I ALWAYS said that Trump had a better diagnosis, but that I simply didn't trust him to follow through on his promises. I still doubt he will. So what? Why does any of that matter?

I don't have my ego tied up in Trump or Cruz. And I admitted defeat way back after the Indiana loss. In fact, I made a statement after Cruz won the Wisconsin primary that the real battle was Indiana. Trump could win all the eastern states, but Cruz's only hope was winning Indiana. After he didn't, I knew it was over then, and publicly admitted it at the time.

I honestly hope Trump wins, disembowels the federal bureaucracy, reverses the decision not to prosecute Hillary, extricates the USA from NATO, TPP, and NAFTA, and expels every last Muslim in America. The only difference between me and you is that I still don't trust Trump to follow through. But I'm not only exceedingly willing to be wrong about him, I actually hope I'm wrong.

If that's what you classify as "Gamma," so be it. I'm not that concerned about how people on the internet who don't know me classify me in the Psycho-sexual categories. I have never dated anyone below an 8, and still have women 20 years younger than me make passes at me, and I'm 50 years old.

On the other hand, while I have an easy time with women, I don't pretend to have always acted as an Alpha, and don't even know if that is particularly desirable in the big scheme of things. I think other men slavishly following an Alpha is a little bit creepy, but to each his own. If I'm honest, I can point to times in my life where I've done things that could fall into any of the categories, so classify me as you like.

Blogger Cail Corishev July 21, 2016 1:34 PM  

Trump just publicly executed the #NeverTrump movement at the RNC,

It was already dying from internal bleeding; Trump just stood by and watched as Cruz put a bullet in its head.

Agreed. His supporters need to follow his lead.

We don't care.

If you can't handle some gloating by people who backed the victor -- after months of hearing about how their candidate couldn't win this or that state, couldn't get this or that group, couldn't pass this or that ceiling -- then maybe it'd be best to take a couple days off from the Internet, because the party's not over. Gloating is the main reason to pay attention and take a side.

Blogger Cail Corishev July 21, 2016 1:38 PM  

He could have been Trump's VP if he had supported him earlier.

Exactly. He had plenty of other options which he could have pursued ever since Trump got the votes. People talk like we've never had a contested primary season before. Men like Ronald Reagan and Pat Buchanan somehow managed to handle defeat without soiling themselves.

Blogger Scott6584 July 21, 2016 1:44 PM  

VD wrote:I have to say this was pretty smart on his part here -- its one of the only plays he had and... yes its a hail mary play for sure but if Trump loses by really big numbers and the Republicans get sweep from power, he is positioned in good place for 2020.

The power players won't even talk to him, are openly calling him "a piece of shit", and you think it was a smart play?

No. No, it was not.


Whatever national political capital Cruz had is spent. He has no chance to become President now. His entire strategy from the time he entered the Senate was to be the "outside" candidate. Trump beat him, and now Cruz has no friends. His was a pure power play, and he lost. Anyone who cannot see that doesn't know how power works.

I have refused to disavow my support of Cruz because I don't like to be intellectually dishonest. I own the decisions I made to support Cruz during the primary season. I don't apologize for them.

And I've explained why I don't trust Trump to keep his promises. Some may think me duplicitous, but I genuinely hope I'm wrong about Trump, and that he exceeds my expectations. Whatever anger I had at Trump for his personal attacks on Cruz and other Republican candidates has dissipated. If that's not enough to satisfy hard-core Trump supporters, then I can live with that.

The only reason I decided to comment today was to indicate that there is at least 1 Cruz supporter who can recognize and accept defeat. I your other readers wish to pile on, I suppose that's fine with me. I don't think it's particularly gracious, or helpful to Trump's cause to continue to alienate those who supported other candidates, but that is out of my control.

Anonymous The OASF July 21, 2016 1:45 PM  

Unless... unless...

The trick-roll, I mean rick-roll, was indeed planted by Trump. And Cruz knows that there will be a tremendous wave of backlash to ride once Trump turns out to be a betrayor...

Nah.

Anonymous VFM #8671 July 21, 2016 1:46 PM  

I've had a lot more difficulty supporting Trump than a lot of the VFM, I think. My support for him is primarily because of the immigration issue which, if it isn't corrected, makes all other issues moot, really.

But in other respects, I was favorably inclined toward Cruz, at least early on. I was hoping that some kind of accord between Trump and Cruz could have been made, unifying the factions then developing in the party.

If he found himself unable to endorse Trump, that is understandable. But then he shouldn't have come, or spoken at the convention. He should have stayed home. That would have been the honorable path. This was not the way to do it. He doubled down instead of staying out of the spotlight.

The residual respect for him that I had, even throughout the campaign against Trump, even after his defeat... is now gone. It's sad, because at one time I thought he could have been the bridge between the two sides of the party. And instead, he has become the wedge that drives them apart.

Blogger SemiSpook37 July 21, 2016 1:49 PM  

Anchorman wrote:Something I noticed about Trump’s speeches is that he rarely attacks Democrats. He makes attacks personal. Hillary. Obama. He doesn’t lump the entire Dem party into his attack.



This is a very valid point. I think the current iteration of the D party is long overdue for a shakeup like we've seen here on the R side, but to Trump, the party is (rightly) just the vehicle he's using to get to the office. And even more to the point, the strategy eliminates the harping on affiliation.

Clinton has been a part of the D machine since 1988. On that fact alone, I cannot support her, because I've seen the D machine descend into absolute madness, even back when I was (marginally) a member of the party (due mainly to ignorance). Trump, while not initially my first choice due to my initial perceptions of his public persona, has proven he knows a hell of a lot more than he's willing to let on, and most likely has some pretty good dirt on most of the folks within the political class that falls within his circle of influence, so much so that if he was willing to let Ted Cruz essentially off himself by saying, "No big deal!", you have to wonder what else he's got on one or more major players.

That's the advantage of being on the outside and paying to play with both sides: you know how much lets you in to get within earshot, and use that information when it becomes necessary.

October's going to be ugly, and I can't wait to see the blindsiding. It's going to be hilarious.

Blogger Scott6584 July 21, 2016 1:51 PM  

Andrew E. wrote:If he wasn't going to endorse Trump, he should have never walked onto that stage.

Circus campaign pledge aside, this is absolutely right.


Agreed!

Blogger Scott6584 July 21, 2016 1:52 PM  

pyrrhus wrote:@140 Yes, George Romney stabbed Goldwater in the back in '64, while Nixon supported Barry, and the Republican voters never forgot that...Cruz is finished.

Agreed!

Anonymous Case July 21, 2016 1:54 PM  

Cruz proved that he's a lying son of a bitch before the Iowa primary was finished. Since then he's proved that he's a sanctimonious, lying son of a bitch.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother July 21, 2016 2:00 PM  

Talk about diarrhea of the mouth, Scotty Numbers.

Did my little comment pop the butt plug out?

Blogger TheLiberatorOfBados July 21, 2016 2:04 PM  

Trump knew what he was doing when he invited Cruz over. He did a brilliant job of letting Cruz hang himself during the final weeks of the primary, and for the last time, he let Cruz be Cruz and show the world what a phony and corrupt slimeball and sore loser he was. Trump gave him an opportunity to endorse him, which would have been a win. Instead Cruz destroys himself and the #nevertrumpers along with him, which is also a win.

Good riddance to the shitstain.

Blogger Austin Ballast July 21, 2016 2:05 PM  

@S1AL,

Scalzi doesn't care what Vox thinks about him, but he does care what his group thinks about him. Cruz doesn't care what the mostly Trump delegates thought about him, but he does care what some think.

My wife and I will not be voting for him in the future. She was an avid supporter in the primary. He has harmed himself seriously. We live and vote in Texas.

It is funny how many are crying "but Trump hit back!" as if that is a bad thing.

Blogger Nate July 21, 2016 2:07 PM  

"The power players won't even talk to him, are openly calling him "a piece of shit", and you think it was a smart play?"

Vox... did you actually watch this? Or... have you watched it by now?

see I hadn't watched it either.. but I did go back and watch it from the begining.

I have to say.. the portrayal of this is bizarre. They didn't "boo him off the stage". In fact.. the "vote your conscience" line was cheered. The booing didn't started until he said, "God Bless America"... indicating the speech was over.

Trump was there smiling and applauding.

This pissed off some party uber alles people... and some trumpkins... and... that's about it.

Blogger Scott6584 July 21, 2016 2:09 PM  

Stg58/Animal Mother wrote:Talk about diarrhea of the mouth, Scotty Numbers.

Did my little comment pop the butt plug out?


Have your fun. I came here to indicate surrender. If you're not willing to be a gracious victor, so be it. I lost. You won. End of story. If you feel the need to further humiliate me, go ahead.

Blogger Gaiseric July 21, 2016 2:12 PM  

@184: Sadly for you, I think you're getting caught up in other events. You were a well-known Cruz supporter a few months ago—obnoxiously so, even. You show up along with Rhetoric Man and Arcturus Rann and a few others who are still on that track; you'll probably have to accept that most of us probably don't pay that close enough attention to exactly who posts what, so you're getting flack for their posts to some degree.

Anonymous Frank1961 July 21, 2016 2:13 PM  

Reagan did not use the exact phrase "I endorse Ford." He did, however call for the party to unify behind it's nominee: "We must go forth from here united, determined etc."

Cruz made a specific pledge to support the nominee, proving that the word of Ted Cruz is completely void of meaning.

Yes, Cruz has tried to weasel out of his pledge by pointing out Trump's unflattering references to Cruz's wife and father. This is disingenuous-- Cruz started that by using his PAC to make an underhanded, and totally uncalled for, smear of Mrs Trump. You just can't go down that road and then complain about retaliation in kind.

This is like a little kid who smacks his brother: When the brother loses patience and smacks back, the offending brat hollers "MOM, he's hitting me!" That's just juvenile-- what I have come to expect from Ted Cruz.

I think Trump's response was remarkably restrained: Just think if Cruz actually was the nominee:You could be sure the national press would have story after story about Rafael's Dominionist cult and Heidi's history of instability. I for one am glad to be spared that.

Anonymous Case July 21, 2016 2:14 PM  

The crowd started booing Cruz because he was using up so much time and a lot of it was his now infamous, pregnant pauses which are an integral part of his irksome speaking style.

They really started booing when he started wrapping up his speech (after yet another pregnant pause) and it became evident that no endorsement was forthcoming.

Cruz got booed because people hate listening to him, and the only reason they did was to hear the endorsement. When the crowd learned that they had been played, they went hostile.

Blogger Scott6584 July 21, 2016 2:14 PM  

Gaiseric wrote:@184: Sadly for you, I think you're getting caught up in other events. You were a well-known Cruz supporter a few months ago—obnoxiously so, even. You show up along with Rhetoric Man and Arcturus Rann and a few others who are still on that track; you'll probably have to accept that most of us probably don't pay that close enough attention to exactly who posts what, so you're getting flack for their posts to some degree.

I suppose if Cruz had not made that speech last night, I would not have felt compelled to come onto the site to indicate my personal surrender. But out of some sense of personal honor, I felt the necessity to do what Cruz was not willing to do.

Take that as you like.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother July 21, 2016 2:14 PM  

Gaiseric,

Scotty Numbers was a Cruzlim from way back. Always had diarrhea of the mouth as well.

Blogger Gaiseric July 21, 2016 2:15 PM  

@183: Because they were still waiting for the punchline. They booed when it became clear Cruz wasn't going to deliver it.

Anonymous Roundtine July 21, 2016 2:15 PM  

Last night, Ted Cruz confirmed that the establishment GOP were right when they called him selfish. Peter King of NY, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, and others were right.

Blogger Gaiseric July 21, 2016 2:17 PM  

@189; Oh, I know. I'm just saying that right now he's probably getting lumped in with other passive aggressive Cruzlims who AREN'T here saying, "guys, I was wrong." It's probably not exactly fair to him, but then again; who cares, I suppose.

Blogger Gaiseric July 21, 2016 2:18 PM  

In a startling display of tone-deafness, Cruz sends out mailers fundraising today. http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/07/21/ted-cruz-fundraises-off-his-donald-trump-convention-snub/

Blogger Robert Divinity July 21, 2016 2:27 PM  

Last night, Ted Cruz confirmed that the establishment GOP were right when they called him selfish. Peter King of NY, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, and others were right.

The uniformity of the "tells" for why they hated him was remarkable. It doesn't make that crew any less the shit they are, but, yes, they had Cruz nailed. Many of us saw it verified several times before last night although that shit show likely settled the issue for all but the dead-endest of the Cruz dead-enders.

Cruz, I just read, is fund-raising off his self-destruction. Again, there's some serious mental illness at play here.

Blogger VD July 21, 2016 2:37 PM  

Vox... did you actually watch this? Or... have you watched it by now?

Yeah, I watched it.

This pissed off some party uber alles people... and some trumpkins... and... that's about it.

As has already been pointed out by some now-former Cruz supporters, that's simply not the case. And that will become increasingly obvious when the time comes for Cruz to run for re-election.

Blogger Were-Puppy July 21, 2016 2:38 PM  

Cruzlims running wild at BB - it's quite fun.

Here's a funny onion link I got from there:
http://www.theonion.com/article/ted-cruz-dressed-campaign-rally-swarm-loyal-vermin-52859

Anonymous ZhukovG July 21, 2016 2:39 PM  

I'm no expert on socio-sexual stuff, but it seems clear that Ted Cruz has all the political acumen of an 18th century Bourbon.

His speech was indicative of someone who thinks, in their own mind, that they are going to 'knock one out of the park', but in fact doesn't know how to hold the bat.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother July 21, 2016 2:41 PM  

Wow Werepuppy. That Onion link is...disturbing.

Anonymous Mati July 21, 2016 2:45 PM  

It was such a perfect opportunity to deliver the Mark Antony speech.

Friends, Americans, countrymen, lend me your ears;
I come to bury Donald Trump, not to praise him.
The noble Bill Kristol Hath told you Trump was ambitious:
If it were so, it was a grievous fault,
And grievously hath Trump answer’d it.
Here, under leave of Kristol and the rest–
For Kristol is an honourable man;
So are they all, all honourable men–

Alas, Ted Cruz was never that kind of man. He would rather side with noble Kristol than with the american people.

Blogger residentMoron July 21, 2016 2:54 PM  

"UPDATE 2: Hear Ted Cruz attempting to rationalize his self-immolation on the national stage. Video at the link:"

Bloody hell, the comments at that link! Complete lack of self-awareness, sense of irony, or contact with the ground.

Oh yeah, and "trumptards" are just another cult of personality. It is to laugh.

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