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Friday, July 29, 2016

The pillaging of Russia

Why the globalists hate Vladimir Putin and why they are terrified that Donald Trump will win the US election:
The international interests that financially wrecked Russia in the ’90s are doing the same to the United States now. Putin stopped them in Russia and Trump is promising to stop them in America. They recognize Trump as the enemy and slander in the only style they know—the paranoid style.

“The international interests that financially wrecked Russia in the ’90s are doing the same to the United States now.”

Trump was once blamed for praising Putin’s performance. But he was right. Pensions, salaries, GDP, and the value of gold reserves in Russia have risen greatly since 1999—in some cases tenfold or more. This was while both inflation and the debt-to-GDP ratio declined by orders of magnitude. The rise in living standard under Putin is reflected in longer life expectancy: It had dropped to a third-world level during the 1990s, to around 55–57, and has now risen back up to 70 by most measures. Birthrates have normalized and recently overtaken the United States. Visit Moscow and you will see infrastructure, buildings, and development that are more impressive than those found in any American city—though the same could be said, of course, for many other countries now.

By contrast, Russians remember the liberal and globalist experiment of the ’90s as a time of great suffering. The early death of literally millions of people from economic deprivation, the utter ruin of many of Russia’s formerly world-class industries: This is the legacy of economic liberalization in Russia. How did it happen?

In short, “entrepreneurs” would run fraudulently acquired businesses into the ground, fire-sale the assets internationally, and move abroad with the profits. This is globalism in its purest form, without the slogans and boosterism. American economists, academics, and businessmen played an important part in all of this. Marc Rich—a fugitive later pardoned by Bill Clinton—was, for example, “the largest trader of Russia’s oil and aluminum on a spot basis,” according to Steve Sailer, who has documented the “rape of Russia” in some detail. George Soros was a large investor in these ventures, which provided the international market with financial backing, and cover for the oligarchs’ robbery of their own people. This was done especially under Boris Jordan’s CS First Boston bank and later Renaissance Capital, Moscow “investment banks” staffed by Soros associates.

Even more important was a group of Harvard and MIT economists who advised and assisted the Russian government in the reforms. These are men still involved in public life in the United States: current vice chairman of the Federal Reserve Stanley Fischer, Jeffrey Sachs, Jonathan Hay, Andrei Shleifer, and Larry Summers, who was later Secretary of the Treasury under Bill Clinton. As late as 1998, months before Russia defaulted, Fischer claimed that the Yeltsin regime had to be praised for following the advice of this group. Using the rhetoric of liberalization and globalism, American academics and financiers played a key role in the pillaging of Russia.
The fact that those who financially raped Russia are opposed to Donald Trump is, in itself, reason to support the man's campaign for the Presidency. And for those who are inclined to cry "anti-semitism" due to the (((heritage))) of more than a few of the individuals named, is this sort of behavior really the sort of thing you want to go on the public record defending?

The Economist was right about one thing. The battle is no longer about Left and Right factions of a nation, but rather, between Globalism and Nationalism. It's the battle between vampires and humans. And if you support Globalism, you're on the wrong side, no matter who you are or why you support it.

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96 Comments:

Anonymous who cares July 29, 2016 1:43 PM  

Oh boy... State of Russian and late USSR economy is in direct correlation with oil prices. If they've been doing in 90s the same shit they do now, there would be a wasteland.

Anonymous Random July 29, 2016 1:45 PM  

I notice Glenn Reynolds and Ed Driscoll on Instapundit have the Russia/Putin == "bad guys" tone in many of their postings.

Anonymous VFM #7916 July 29, 2016 1:46 PM  

@1 And yet it's not a wasteland but an organically growing economy with sounder money and lives that are directly better.

Oil can't fall much further, but can easily double. Even if your rhetoric had any meaning, it still points to Russia being a better bet than anywhere else in the West.

Blogger lowercaseb July 29, 2016 1:47 PM  

read the eXile....back when Matt Taibi and Mark Ames were expats gleefully exploiting Russians back in the 90s and the aughts. They were chased out of Russia to land as tired leftists in semi-mainstream media.

Every wrong of the globalists was personified by them...and I am ashamed that I used to read their stuff with glee.

Blogger kurt9 July 29, 2016 1:47 PM  

Before touting Russia as some sort of example, you might want to look at what blogger "Al Fin" has to say about Russia:

https://alfinnextlevel.wordpress.com/category/russian-decline/

Anonymous BGKB July 29, 2016 1:56 PM  

More benefits of globalism. Local ZIKA transmission in FL.
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/first-outbreak-locally-transmitted-zika-virus-confirmed-continental-141407140--abc-news-topstories.html

ZIKA anchor babies will cost taxpayer more than their birth weight in gold per year alive

Blogger praetorian July 29, 2016 1:56 PM  

I celebrated while U.S. jews handed the vast majority of Russian wealth to other jews...

ZE BRAK PIRRRRRR

Blogger Robert Divinity July 29, 2016 2:06 PM  

@4

That's just a typical globalist anti-Russian screed. It's more polemic that scholarly, particularly ironic given how it bangs on cheating in academia. The simple truth is Russia's economy has stabilized and is expanding while ours continues to contract and decline.

Blogger Alexander July 29, 2016 2:07 PM  

It's the battle between vampires and humans.

Certainly explains (((hollywood's))) massive effort to make vampires cool and sexy.

Blogger Rusty Fife July 29, 2016 2:10 PM  

Robert Divinity wrote:@4

That's just a typical globalist anti-Russian screed. It's more polemic that scholarly, particularly ironic given how it bangs on cheating in academia. The simple truth is Russia's economy has stabilized and is expanding while ours continues to contract and decline.


I like the solution: "send all your hot, fertile womenz to the West before they lose their innocence! "

Anonymous cheddarman July 29, 2016 2:12 PM  

@4

Kurt9, the same criticisms or more damning criticisms could just as easily be leveled against the USA.
- Our academic institutions have been corrupted by grade inflation, greed, and cultural marxism. Do the Russian academic institutions conspire with the russian lending institutions to fleece students like they do in the US?

- Russia did not isolate itself from the West, the West is/was trying to rape Russia, so the Russians turned to China as a market for their natural resources.

- the corruption in the west is more hidden than in Russia, we do a better job of papering over our corruption with willful cooperation by the media. We were and are told by our media that globalism is good for us...when it has been a disaster for the working and middle classes

Anonymous FisherOfMen July 29, 2016 2:21 PM  

Civilization goes to a prosperous stage, then enters a looting stage.

The elites right now think they can pretend we're still in the looting stage. But the resources have become too scarce to maintain the looting stage. Resources are still pretty high-- but just not high enough to maintain the looting stage.

But we've had natural selection in the USA for "looting-ready politicians" since at least the 1930s... nobody even understands what a non-looting politician would look like. So they look at Trump and try to fit him into a looting stage mold, which would be "nazi homophobe baby eater," I guess.

The EBT cards for the elite are about to be turned off. The real question is whether they intend to drag us into a world war to try to jump-start a new looting stage.

Anonymous Spartacus xxxxx July 29, 2016 2:23 PM  

"Empires are looted as they collapse." - Anne Williamson

https://rielpolitik.com/2016/01/02/realpolitik-how-clinton-and-company-and-the-bankers-plundered-russia-in-the-90s-by-paul-likoudis-flashback/

https://www.lewrockwell.com/author/anne-williamson/

"Williamson was an eyewitness who lived on and off in Russia for more than ten years, where she reported on all things Russian for The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal... She knew and interviewed just about everybody involved in this gargantuan plundering scheme..."

Looks like a new book is in the works.

Anonymous VFM #7916 July 29, 2016 2:24 PM  

@11 If it's a question, it's a rhetorical one.

Blogger dc.sunsets July 29, 2016 2:24 PM  

Add every Fed FOMC member and, for all practical purposes, every professional economist who ever set foot in a federal reserve building.

They are the drug pushers and criminal enablers of all time, fostering the illusion of debt-as-wealth that underlied all of these "leveraged buyouts" of entire nations.

Blogger dc.sunsets July 29, 2016 2:32 PM  

Nothing changes until interest rates begin to reflect a change in the belief structure of debt-as-wealth.

Shit will get real, real fast, when a world drowning in IOU'S suddenly begins to suspect their value is evaporating and that it's time to rush to the exits.

The problem then becomes, "what constitutes The Exit?" when monetary wealth is collapsing and prices are in free fall.

History was written in debt issuance on the way up. It will be written in blood on the way down.

Blogger Markku July 29, 2016 2:39 PM  

the utter ruin of many of Russia’s formerly world-class industries

I'm sure Russia has indeed been treated unfairly, but when exactly was this, that they were world-class? In the communist era?

Blogger tz July 29, 2016 2:42 PM  

Meanwhile Glenn Greenwald gets it in a Slate interview. Not that he is on the right, but that he knows exactly why Trump will win (though he thinks Hillary will).

I'm waiting for the Clinton let Putin take over US Uranium production after a Contribution to her Foundation ad.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother July 29, 2016 2:53 PM  

Vox, are you promoting the Genesis of the Codominium?

Anonymous Bukulu July 29, 2016 3:03 PM  

Fisher @ 11:

"Civilization goes to a prosperous stage, then enters a looting stage."

After that I assume we get to the shooting stage?

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents July 29, 2016 3:04 PM  

Meanwhile in flyover country there has been an ongoing increase in the death rate due to drug overdoses, typically Oxy, Fentanyl, heroin, etc. But it's poor and working class white Americans, so it's not a crisis, in fact it's not even news. White Americans are dying due to despair as a side effect of globalization. Much as happened in Russia.

Unwanted side effect, or feature?

Blogger beerme July 29, 2016 3:08 PM  

@20 Feature.

Blogger Mountain Man July 29, 2016 3:17 PM  

These dark vultures have done here it in New England. The paper industry in Maine is in shambles thanks to these types. The fingerprints of (( Goldman Sucks)) is all over the acquisition and wholesale looting/destruction of what were formerly world class pulp and paper mills. They provided the funding for the "Hedge Fund Horsemen" to swoop in and buy these assets with one intent in mind: buy cheap, suck the marrow out of the mills and then shut them down. The result: a tidal wave of destruction in both direct and indirect jobs. We all have known that the paper industry is in decline but had anyone but sociopaths owned them, they would have had investments made that would have enabled them to transition into other wood fiber/pulp based products that would have ensured their survival. There are only two mills in that state not owned by the professional looting class. Both are owned by foreign corporations - whose goals is to make paper products at a profit. Its not perfect that they're foreign owned - but there intent is noble. Both of these mills have had substantial investments made that will insure their productivity well into the next decade. The other mills bought/owned by sociopathic globalists running hedge funds have either closed or will be shortly.
Their is a special place in hell for these pieces of shit.

Anonymous VFM #6306 July 29, 2016 3:24 PM  

Markku, their commie production of weapons, utility machines, chemicals and mining were in fact, world-class, and ripe for a shift to capitalist export...or ransacking for dollars. Guess which option of the two the globalists picked.

Anonymous NAJALT July 29, 2016 3:30 PM  

And for those who are inclined to cry "anti-semitism" due to the (((heritage))) of more than a few of the individuals named, is this sort of behavior really the sort of thing you want to go on the public record defending?

Oooh! Oooh! I know! Me, call on me, I know the answer!

Not All Jews Are Like That!

Well, that's what I read in the (((newspaper))), so it has to be true.

Blogger Markku July 29, 2016 3:31 PM  

Weapons may have been, I wouldn't know about that, but utility machines definitely wasn't. We Finns could purchase them for about one tenth of the cost that they cost here, yet we wouldn't. Because they were comically bad. That's when the experession "tehdä ryssäksi" or in short "ryssiä" - "do the Russky way" - was born. It means, utterly fuck something up.

Anonymous Thersites July 29, 2016 3:34 PM  

One of the major problems with business world today in the US is loads of socipathic globalists with no long term goals in mind. Short term profits and nice bonuses from the pillaging is the name of the game. Once they are done, they will retreat to their safe havens that are walled off from the rest of the world. It will not end well for them in the long run, but Trump winning will start the road of retribution for everyone involved. The question for the globalist is, tar and feather or barrel of the gun as their punishment?

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents July 29, 2016 3:34 PM  

@22 Mountain Man, the irony of looting an industry that literally rests on renewable resources with the approval of progtards would be staggering to anyone who hasn't been paying attention for the last 20 years.

I wonder if there isn't a niche in Maine or Oregon for a co-op kind of setup, where the mill is worker-owned and operated? By the time the vultures are done looting the industry it should be possible to pick up some assets fairly inexpensively.

Unless some stinking owl or other gets in the way.

Anonymous Haven Monahan July 29, 2016 3:34 PM  

If you want to know why the (((globalists))) hate Putin, just read the following paragraph while ignoring the goodthink. This is from the Guardian of all places (I don't know how to make this read as a quote):

Few ordinary Russians will feel much sympathy for the losers. Any admiration for the gusto with which the country's 50-odd billionaires live their lives is more than outweighed by outrage at the way many of them made their money. And in a country where anti-semitism is still rife and openly expressed, nationalist rabble-rousers have made much of the fact that of the seven oligarchs who controlled 50% of Russia's economy during the 1990s, six were Jewish: Berezovsky, Vladimir Guzinsky, Alexander Smolensky, Mikhail Khodorkovsky, Mikhail Friedman and Valery Malkin. That fact is incontestable - but it is the result not of some grand conspiracy, but of the way the Soviet Union restricted Jews' ability to assimilate and rise up in society. While ethnic Slavs dominated all the best career slots in the highly bureaucratised official society, Jews who wanted to get ahead were forced into the black market economy. When communism collapsed and the black market was legalised as free market capitalism, the Jewish entrepreneurs had a head start.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/jul/02/russia.lukeharding1

Blogger Ilíon July 29, 2016 3:36 PM  

Russia was pillaged by Russians, by members of the Communist party.

Blogger tz July 29, 2016 3:37 PM  

@22 - that is the current thing - employ illegals or meth-heads (more common in the midwest in places like meat-packing).
It used to be environment - dump toxic waste into the river. China has both wage suppression and environmental ruin.

Anonymous Opus July 29, 2016 3:41 PM  

In England there hss been dismay and uproar that Billionaire (((Philip Green))) asset stripped British Home Stores and its Pension fund. The store is now closing. England needs a Putin to deal with these asset raiders of all that's good and holy.

Blogger Markku July 29, 2016 3:42 PM  

If the Russians are trying to feed you Americans the story that consumer goods were something other than comically bad in the Communist era, they are just outright lying to you. They were HORRIBLE. They were asbsolutely, utterly, HORRIBLE. There was always the occasional Finn who made a trip to Russia and came back with a car full of Russian consumer goods, then wished he hadn't. My parents included.

Blogger Robert Divinity July 29, 2016 3:44 PM  

I like the solution: "send all your hot, fertile womenz to the West before they lose their innocence! "

It's Freudian Friday.

Blogger Markku July 29, 2016 3:45 PM  

I on the other hand it said "Made in West Germany", THAT was the good shit.

Blogger IreneAthena July 29, 2016 4:32 PM  

Those who recognize and recoil at "(((heritage)))" as code for "I am an anti-semitic bigot" might be more inclined to consider anti-globalism arguments and less inclined to cry "anti-semitism" were the "(((heritage)))" omitted from the appeal to them.

In another recent anti-globalist post, Vox Day writes:

[The transnational elite] is not, as some would have it, an exclusively Jewish elite, but rather, an alliance of rapacious elites from every nation, who share an honor among thieves and defend each other at the expense of the various peoples they have been raping for at least four generations.

Does he mean Not All Jews Are Like That?
Does he mean, merely, "not all transnationalist elites are Jews?"

Something for anti-semites to think about: Jews make up a high-IQ population where intentions--for good or evil—are more likely to become high-impact reality. When they are good, they are very, very good (e.g.medicine) but when they are bad, they are horrid (e.g.,pull-the-wool-over-everyone-else's-eyes financial shenanigans.)

Blogger Teri July 29, 2016 4:41 PM  

Mountain Man, they did the same in WA and OR. Buy the mill, sell the equipment and shut it down. Pay for people to go to training for non-existent jobs.

Anonymous VFM #6306 July 29, 2016 4:44 PM  

Not retail or light duty machines, Markku. The big commercial ones that were basically variations on the tank. Their retail divisions were a complete disaster.

Blogger Teri July 29, 2016 4:45 PM  

We had a co-op plywood mill in Stevenson WA. Shares were expensive, like $20k. When the mill started to get into trouble as the Eco-Nazis shut down the forests, they tried to get the shareholders to take a temporary pay cut. They wouldn't. The mill shut down, the shares were worthless and everyone lost their jobs. Now it's in the "National Scenic Area" so they'll never get those jobs back.

Anonymous andon July 29, 2016 4:51 PM  

@ #34 - I think its code for "I didn't used to notice who the 1% were, but now I do"

something for jews to think about - #110+ might be on the way

Blogger James Dixon July 29, 2016 4:59 PM  

> Now it's in the "National Scenic Area" so they'll never get those jobs back.

Never is a long time. Barring massive reforms, our federal government will fail sometime in this century, probably in the first half. When it does, those "National Scenic Area" designations will go by the wayside.

Anonymous Cyclone Bob July 29, 2016 5:05 PM  

@najalt
Close; what you read in the newspapers is, Not One Jew Is Like That.

Blogger Were-Puppy July 29, 2016 5:08 PM  

@26 A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents

I wonder if there isn't a niche in Maine or Oregon for a co-op kind of setup, where the mill is worker-owned and operated? By the time the vultures are done looting the industry it should be possible to pick up some assets fairly inexpensively.

Unless some stinking owl or other gets in the way.
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Buy Bohemian Grove. Remove the stinking owl.

Blogger Were-Puppy July 29, 2016 5:10 PM  

@27 Haven Monahan I

nationalist rabble-rousers have made much of the fact that of the seven oligarchs who controlled 50% of Russia's economy during the 1990s, six were Jewish: Berezovsky, Vladimir Guzinsky, Alexander Smolensky, Mikhail Khodorkovsky, Mikhail Friedman and Valery Malkin. That fact is incontestable
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And then he goes on to (((QQ)))

Blogger praetorian July 29, 2016 5:11 PM  

Something for anti-semites to think about: Jews make up a high-IQ population where intentions

That's certainly true, but it ignores two material facts:

1) Intelligent jews are tribal, far more so than intelligent Europeans who tend to be high-trust universalists.

2) Jews have an inherently adversarial relationship with Christendom and Rome, the underlying social infrastructure of the west. Atheistic jews lose their own faith, but not the hatred for Christianity, which is often amplified by the faith-shaped hole in their soul.

3) Profit.

Blogger Were-Puppy July 29, 2016 5:15 PM  

@28 Ilíon
Russia was pillaged by Russians, by members of the Communist party.
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Bolshevik, Menshevik, Trostky, Marx - True Russians one and all.

Anonymous BGKB July 29, 2016 5:21 PM  

Not All Jews Are Like That! Well, that's what I read in the (((newspaper))), so it has to be true.

Some even offer 4x the going rate too good arabs. Well at least in GLBT films that David Cole 1/2 remembered.http://takimag.com/article/black_cop_drunk_jew_white_city_david_cole/print#axzz4Fpotx15i

Does he mean, merely, "not all transnationalist elites are Jews?"

Not every single last elite is jewish, some are Shabbos goy. Don't let the 99% fool you.

Jews make up a high-IQ population where intentions--for good or evil—

I have dated more than my fair share of jews and don't buy the naturally smart. Name one scam they have come up with that Martin Luther didn't write about. High Freq Trading is little different from Rothschild's hiring falconers to kill other peoples homing pigeons. Einstein stole relativity from an Italian scientist and was probably given credit for German discoveries that would be inconvenient to acknowledge. The gay jews I meet had little ethics.

Blogger Teri July 29, 2016 5:22 PM  

I hope you are right. That area used to be home to very rugged folks. They shut down the woods and restricted development to the little towns in the area. In one case, they fought with a property owner over the exact shades of brown and green that he could use to paint his house ("They" being the unelected Gorge Commission). That was finally too much of the Secretary of Agriculture, the only person with the authority to reign them in. The same folks now want to shut down rail transport of oil and coal in the area.

Blogger tz July 29, 2016 5:25 PM  

@31 I remember Windsor (CA) had a Lada dealership. Cheap but not even close to a good value.

@32 Actually import smart and rich men. If Putin would set aside a "Galt's Gulch" or Singapore without the barrenness, it would help the IQ, the population, and the GDP. Or perhaps just reciprocal citizenship rights so we could retreat to Russia when TSHTF.

Somehow a plotline in Victoria comes to mind (the Russian Ambassador).

@43 They are smart, tribal, adversarial, but it wasn't as bad when they didn't have their own homeland so wouldn't consider fouling their current nest.

Somehow I don't remember the loud screams when the Muslims started invading the EU, and it should have shown up on at least a few of my media sources. So now that their host (pun intended) countries have invited in millions of anti-semites, as is happening here to a lesser extent, the protests about white anti-semitism are about as significant as (actual) Trannies and their bathroom demands.

Blogger tz July 29, 2016 5:30 PM  

@46 - it will depend on the election. I'm absolutely certain Trump will win as well as the Alt-Right because of something a Podcast I finally got to this morning.

Trump has all but promised to return the West to the states. Washington and Oregon are a problem because of the east/west divide - they are bright blue and only slightly less bright red across the cascades.

Blogger SteelPalm July 29, 2016 5:32 PM  

Okay, moving past the tiresome, repetitive discussion of Jews, you guys are well aware that Putin and every Russian nationalist worth his salt absolutely despises the West, and in particular the US?

I was born in Moscow, and still talk to people living back home all the time, so it's funny to see the disconnect here.

Yeah, Putin might be a nationalist for his own people, and infinitely preferable to the Merkels and Hollandes of the world as a result, but he doesn't feel the same way about the West.

He harshly criticized the Brexit, and the reasoning behind many of his actions is "what will hurt the US the most"?

So keep that in mind. A genuine Russian nationalist would love nothing more than to see an American or British nationalist dead.

Amusingly, Russian nationalists also don't blame its economic problems on the Jews as much as you guys do. They assign most of the blame on the United States.

Anonymous jdgalt July 29, 2016 5:40 PM  

Putin is the one who economically wrecked Russia -- especially by trumping up charges against investors in Gazprom who were not his allies.

The Russian economy, and the globalist cause there, prospered while Yeltsin was in office.

Anonymous Roginald July 29, 2016 5:43 PM  

Somebody needs to start up a new purge before it's too late.

Anonymous Gen. Kong July 29, 2016 5:53 PM  

Markku:
That's when the experession "tehdä ryssäksi" or in short "ryssiä" - "do the Russky way" - was born. It means, utterly fuck something up.

No doubt - since Russians tend to be drunk much of the time. Finns ain't seen nothin' yet. Just wait until Finland is filled with 70-IQ dindus expecting gibsmedats, imported under orders from your rulers in the banking cartels of Paris, Brussels, New York and London. Aided and abetted by your own local elites and devout Churchians. Not only stupidity, but endless violence and wanton criminality of the worst type. I note that Israel is the one country on the planet miraculously not subject to such looting and colonization under orders from the cartels and their seemingly endless supply of treasonous step-n-fetchits. Do nationalists completely rule things there or is there another, less pleasant, reason for this interesting exception to the allegedly immutable laws of comparative advantage? Perhaps some of our Israeli readers have an idea. Yes, China and Japan have said no thus far, but Lügenpresse have already been complaining about their lack of die-ver-city. Japan already signed onto the TPP - another one of those documents of many thousands of pages nobody has the time to read.

Blogger natschuster July 29, 2016 6:32 PM  

Gen Kong:

If you are referring to Africans please be informed that Israel took in tens of thousands of black African falashas or beta Israel. They were not just allowed in but brought to Israel by the government. Moreover tens of thousands of of Eritrean refugees live in Israel now.

Anonymous DJF July 29, 2016 6:50 PM  

How Harvard lost Russia is a good account of part of the looting of Russia. Wikipedia use to have a big write up about it but now its mostly gone.




http://www.institutionalinvestor.com/Article/1020662/How-Harvard-lost-Russia.html#.V5vcmPkrKHs

Anonymous Gen. Kong July 29, 2016 7:08 PM  

Yes, Natschuster. Know about the Falashas. Also know about Israel's deportations of many thousands of dindus in recent years - a number of whom ended up in Sweden thanks to the efforts of (((Barbara Spectre))), which you of course forgot to mention. The Falashas haven't worked out so well for the Israelis - they're not even fully dindu - but they don't seem to be going back to Ethiopia either (they were flown in back in the 1980s). Israel has every right to deport all invading dindus, but there appear to be SJWs locally doing what SJWs always do - though they're efforts to stop deportations aren't nearly as effective as they are elsewhere. The original point stands despite your apparent effort to deflect it. Israel seems to be the only westernized country which is permitted to enforce its immigration laws. After all, if the dirt in advanced countries is magic, why wouldn't Israel's dirt be the most magical of all?

Blogger ZhukovG July 29, 2016 7:15 PM  

Those in Russia I have corresponded with readily admit that there are many areas that still need improvement. However they also point out that under Putin, in general, Russians have enjoyed a standard of living unprecedented in living memory.

Blogger rcocean July 29, 2016 7:36 PM  

Just remember Vox, no matter how many Jews do bad things, its wrong to blame the Jews. It'd be just as bad as blaming the Germans for Hitler, or Whites for Negro slavery.

Blogger Aeoli Pera July 29, 2016 7:39 PM  

BGKB wrote:Jews make up a high-IQ population where intentions--for good or evil—

I have dated more than my fair share of jews and don't buy the naturally smart. Name one scam they have come up with that Martin Luther didn't write about. High Freq Trading is little different from Rothschild's hiring falconers to kill other peoples homing pigeons. Einstein stole relativity from an Italian scientist and was probably given credit for German discoveries that would be inconvenient to acknowledge. The gay jews I meet had little ethics.


Which is more ethical, the gray wolf or the red wolf? Is it immoral to be part-coyote? Sell your cloak and buy a rifle.

Blogger IreneAthena July 29, 2016 7:40 PM  

@34 @43 @45 @47 @49 SteelPalm, I understand your frustration about the tiresome discussions about Jews, but after all, 1/6 of the sentences composed by Vox on this post are addressed to those concerned about "anti-Semitism." After this comment, I will try to keep my promise to you to be finished with this thread, unless I have something new to say.

@43 Praetorian - Jewish nationalism (isn't nationalism what most of you are promoting here?) motivated them to revolt against the occupation of their homeland by Rome, culminating in the forced exodus of the Diaspora after 70A.D. The mutual antipathy of the Jew and Rome, and to the Holy Roman Empire into which it soon morphed, are perhaps more understandable in light of this. Tribalism became a matter of survival at that point.

@45 BGKB - You frequently appeal to your experiences with the guys you've dated as if a boyfriend of BGKB is representative of the racial group he comes from. Interesting anecdotes but still, anecdotes. Martin Luther was all over the map with respect to the Jews. He criticized the Catholics for not treating them charitably, and then he recommended burning Jewish schools down, giving warnings about the scams that might ensnare the average German (of lower intelligence than Martin Luther and the average Jew.)

@53 Good point, natshuster, but sadly, refugees who are invited into Israel, and to other countries, face conditions that are often only marginally better than the situations from which they are fleeing.

Anonymous No use July 29, 2016 7:48 PM  

Is there a book that details this stuff in 1990s Russia?

Blogger Unknown July 29, 2016 8:01 PM  

The battle is no longer about Left and Right factions of a nation, but rather, between Globalism and Nationalism.

The two battlefronts look one and the same to me. Since the Redshields turned international arms trading into a global financial instrument, Right and Left factions within a nation have more or less been politically manipulated by the global military supply market. The article correctly implies that world politics is essentially a hedge fund.

Interestingly, the policies on both sides of the political spectrum ebb and flow under the same forces - it's more circular than linear. The extreme Left and the extreme Right in both policy and practice have been distinguishable only by the color of their armbands. This is borne out today in that the body politic within the nations leans Left or Right depending on which class of people are prevailing on the latest Globalist/Nationalist battlefront. It could be white liberals today and Islamic fascists tomorrow, or Chinese kleptocrats today and Russian or Indian oligarchs tomorrow. The point is that the whole thing is fluid and impossible to nail down politically, and that's just peachy for the moneychangers.

Blogger bob k. mando July 29, 2016 8:16 PM  

49. SteelPalm July 29, 2016 5:32 PM
Amusingly, Russian nationalists also don't blame its economic problems on the Jews as much as you guys do. They assign most of the blame on the United States.



well, of course.

the US foisted our Harvard ( et al ) connected Jews onto Yeltsin as 'financial advisors' when the Soviet Union collapsed before we would permit them access to UN or International Banking funding.

had the US not rammed even more Jews down Russias gullet they wouldn't have had so many problems.



what kind of Jews are associated with Harvard? this kind:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noel_Ignatiev

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents July 29, 2016 8:22 PM  

IreneAthena
Something for anti-semites to think about: Jews make up a high-IQ population where intentions--for good or evil—are more likely to become high-impact reality

Ashkenazi Jews are indeed high IQ, about as high as white Episcopalians. The Ashkenazim are a subset of the Jewish people, and so far as I know the Sephardim don't test out nearly has high IQ as their mostly-Italian cousins in the Tribe.

Not all Jews are above average IQ. "Not All Jews Are Like That". Your implied threat is interesting, though, it looks like "Like us, OR ELSE". 'Zat what you meant to write?

Blogger Rusty Fife July 29, 2016 8:27 PM  

A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents wrote:IreneAthena

Something for anti-semites to think about: Jews make up a high-IQ population where intentions--for good or evil—are more likely to become high-impact reality

Ashkenazi Jews are indeed high IQ, about as high as white Episcopalians. The Ashkenazim are a subset of the Jewish people, and so far as I know the Sephardim don't test out nearly has high IQ as their mostly-Italian cousins in the Tribe.

Not all Jews are above average IQ. "Not All Jews Are Like That". Your implied threat is interesting, though, it looks like "Like us, OR ELSE". 'Zat what you meant to write?


Notice she also focused on their "good intentions"; regardless of whether their results have ever been good for the native population in all of human history.

"We intended to do good; but shucks, it turned out bad for you. Luckily we lined our pockets with loot so it didn't turn out all bad. Toodles!"

Blogger Markku July 29, 2016 8:31 PM  

I have not researched this enough to be absolutely sure, but what I have seen randomly without taking great interest in it is that Russian nationalists blame Jews for Communism in specific. They do not blame them to a large degree for events after the end of Communism. But I have seen several of them make the claim that Jews were behind the atheistic goals of Communism and if it had been a Christian project instead, and not hijacked by Jews, it would have succeeded.

Blogger Markku July 29, 2016 8:32 PM  

I feel somewhat alarmed by this because it gives them excuse to try Communism again, after they have gotten rid of the Jews.

Blogger Rusty Fife July 29, 2016 8:34 PM  

Markku wrote:I have not researched this enough to be absolutely sure, but what I have seen randomly without taking great interest in it is that Russian nationalists blame Jews for Communism in specific. They do not blame them to a large degree for events after the end of Communism. But I have seen several of them make the claim that Jews were behind the atheistic goals of Communism and if it had been a Christian project instead, and not hijacked by Jews, it would have succeeded.

What's funny is that the Jews have it in their power to falsify Christianity. Build. The. Temple.

Blogger Markku July 29, 2016 8:37 PM  

Uhhh what? At least my tradition (Pentecostal) has been waiting for the third temple as long as I have lived. It's needed for the Antichrist to defile it, in this particular model of interpreting the prophecy.

I'm not saying I'm absolutely certain of its correctness but if I'm forced to guess, I'll say that there will be a third temple soon.

Blogger dienw July 29, 2016 8:45 PM  

@
Ashkenazim are a subset of the Jewish people...

Assuming you are meaning that the Ashkenazim are Semitc and descend from the ancient Israelites, no; the Ashkenazim are a Turkic people; sons of Gomer; a son of Japheth; the Ashkenazim are not Semitic and they make up ~90% of the Jewish population ("Jewish", in the sense used, and this is the primary sense used today - it is also a deliberate deception -, means a member of the the Talmudic religion). The Khazars are also Japhethites.

Gen 10:1 Now these are the generations of the sons of Noah, Shem, Ham, and Japheth: and unto them were sons born after the flood.
Gen 10:2 The sons of Japheth; Gomer, and Magog, and Madai, and Javan, and Tubal, and Meshech, and Tiras.
Gen 10:3 And the sons of Gomer; Ashkenaz, and Riphath, and Togarmah.

Blogger VD July 29, 2016 8:47 PM  

Those who recognize and recoil at "(((heritage)))" as code for "I am an anti-semitic bigot" might be more inclined to consider anti-globalism arguments and less inclined to cry "anti-semitism" were the "(((heritage)))" omitted from the appeal to them.

The only people who "recoil" at it are either Jews or those who will neither hear nor believe any criticism of Jews.

Jews make up a high-IQ population where intentions--for good or evil—are more likely to become high-impact reality.

First, that's not true. The average Jewish IQ is below the white average. You are referring to Ashkenazi subset IQ, which is lower than a number of white and Asian population subsets that are more numerous.

It's rather amusing to be accused of envying Jewish IQ. Mine is several SD higher than the Ashkenazi average. So, you'll have to forgive me if I'm not at all impressed by it.

The reason the Ashkenazi Jews are successful is no different, and no more nefarious, than the reason other minority ethnic groups are successful in various countries: Tight group nepotism. In the USA, they also played the Holocaustianity card, and more importantly, teamed up with other immigrant groups, particularly the Irish, to destroy the historical American nation's control over the US empire.

See both the 1965 Immigration Act and the 1967 Dual Citizen Act. However, their advantage is now largely finished due to the advent of white identity politics, which is why the Learned Elders of Wye have been trying to figure out where to jump next.

I think China would be a horrifically bad choice, myself, but that's apparently the top candidate at the moment. Israel is their homeland, but of course, it will require considerable adjustment to go from rentiers to landowners.

I'm very pro-Israel. I simply don't think it's ever a good idea for foreigners to rule over large groups of natives, in the USA or anywhere else. The dirt isn't magic.

Blogger dienw July 29, 2016 8:48 PM  

@ 68. Markku

I feel somewhat alarmed by this because it gives them excuse to try Communism again, after they have gotten rid of the Jews.

Bolshevism - really Judaeo-Bolshevism - is Judaism in practice; they even bragged about it in the 1920s.

Blogger Were-Puppy July 29, 2016 8:49 PM  

@51 SteelPalm

So keep that in mind. A genuine Russian nationalist would love nothing more than to see an American or British nationalist dead.
---

It wouldn't take much for any of us to slip right back into our cold war mindsets. I doubt they would understand that the people here in the US are not in control of the government, which is why Nationalism is on the rise.

Blogger praetorian July 29, 2016 8:51 PM  

Tribalism became a matter of survival at that point.

Yes, we've all had a very hard life.

Blogger Markku July 29, 2016 8:57 PM  

Bolshevism - really Judaeo-Bolshevism - is Judaism in practice; they even bragged about it in the 1920s.

I have second-hand experience of the life in the kibbutzim (a very close family friend lived there for considerable time when the project was at the high point in Israel), so yes, I know. But it's irrelevant to the question whether they'll try it again. They could copy from history, or they could merely THINK having gotten rid of the Jews. But what I know is that they look back to the time with alarming fondness.

Blogger Rusty Fife July 29, 2016 9:28 PM  

Markku wrote:Uhhh what? At least my tradition (Pentecostal) has been waiting for the third temple as long as I have lived. It's needed for the Antichrist to defile it, in this particular model of interpreting the prophecy.

I'm not saying I'm absolutely certain of its correctness but if I'm forced to guess, I'll say that there will be a third temple soon.


Yep. If they build the Temple and it isn't defiled...John is falsfied.

Jesus claimed he wouldn't return until after the Temple is built.

1) Build Temple
2) No Jesus
3) Therefore Christianity falsified
4) Science!

The perfect experiment to falsify my faith.

Anonymous BGKB July 29, 2016 9:36 PM  

So keep that in mind. A genuine Russian nationalist would love nothing more than to see an American or British nationalist dead

He would want to make sure The Jews That Be of the US didn't escape before death. Parasites seeking new hosts.

If you are referring to Africans please be informed that Israel took in tens of thousands of black African falashas or beta Israel

And sterilized the women with DEPO without telling them, while they decided if they are real jews as claimed.

BGKB - You frequently appeal to your experiences with the guys you've dated as if a boyfriend of BGKB

Jews make up a disproportionate amount of the white "appearing" gay population and even larger part of the lesbian pop. Have I ever meet a STR8 jew that jewed? Yes.

Anonymous Gen. Kong July 29, 2016 10:24 PM  

I am continually mystified as to why Jews simply will not go to Israel. Whether one believes it's a fulfillment of ancient prophesies or simply an achievement by hook, crook and the law of conquest, they won the real-estate in 1948, held it and have managed to build a reasonably decent country - for themselves. Israel is a functioning National-Socialist state. Even the Laborite-Socialists are nationalistic there. Yes, it's an open question as to if it will last once the leeching of America stops, as I rather doubt the Chinese will be so willing to foot the bills for the welfare payments. Still, there's enough economy there to sustain the place as long as they don't start embracing imperial notions like lebensraum - or "Greater Israel". With 500 plus deliverable nuke and no ratification of any WMD treaty, only the fanatically insane Musloids are stupid enough to want to wage the great jihad.

Blogger The Overgrown Hobbit July 29, 2016 10:38 PM  

...And this is where we're on the same page. I'm a free-trader within a country.

Without is asinine. Why fund crooks and tyrants?

Blogger The Overgrown Hobbit July 29, 2016 10:38 PM  

...And this is where we're on the same page. I'm a free-trader within a country.

Without is asinine. Why fund crooks and tyrants?

Anonymous Takin' a Look July 29, 2016 11:18 PM  

@ Gen. Kong

I am continually mystified as to why Jews simply will not go to Israel.

Because vampires can't leech off of other vampires. Also, officially, there are 15 million (((Tribe))) globally, 6 million in Israel. Combine the 9 million openly Jewish Diaspora with an unknown number of cryptos...(could easily be up to 100 million) and you begin to see the problem. Israeli territory as is cannot even support the current population without genocide of non-jews and massive foreign aid/trade.

Unless lebensraum is enacted....hmmm....nah, the turmoil in the middle east COULDN'T have anything to do with...right?

Blogger The Other Robot July 30, 2016 12:48 AM  

Assuming you are meaning that the Ashkenazim are Semitc and descend from the ancient Israelites, no; the Ashkenazim are a Turkic people;

This is just enormously ignorant.

All the latest genetic information tells us that they are definitely Semitic and Italian from about 1,000 years ago.

Blogger dienw July 30, 2016 2:20 AM  

@83
Do your research. This information is know.

Blogger IreneAthena July 30, 2016 2:37 AM  

@72VD...hmmm....I see. Per promise to Steel Palm in @61, I won't add anything more, but did want to acknowledge and thank you for the answer. By the way, congratulations on the high IQ. That is a gift from God, never to be taken for granted. Smart one day, Alzheimer's or a head injury the next, and poof! It's gone. :(

Anonymous Spartacus xxxxx July 30, 2016 2:55 AM  

The Other Robot wrote:Assuming you are meaning that the Ashkenazim are Semitc and descend from the ancient Israelites, no; the Ashkenazim are a Turkic people;

This is just enormously ignorant.

All the latest genetic information tells us that they are definitely Semitic and Italian from about 1,000 years ago.


So Arthur Koestler & wife got suicided for nothing? The 'latest genetic information' isn't necessarily true. There appears to have been some academic gaming. Not to disagree with your position, but be careful with pronouncements of certitude. In any case the 1000-year figure is supported by other, most-unpopular lines of inquiry.

Blogger dienw July 30, 2016 7:33 AM  

@ 86, 83
Firstly, the tribal names Khazar and Ashkenazim are not mere coincidences: when the Khazars converted to Judaism, they sent a letter to the Spanish Jews announcing their decision and revealing their direct descent from Togarmah; upon this decision, Talmudic Jews began to migrate to the Khazar empire; this migration does not make the Khazars a Hebrew tribe it just adds DNA traces. Khazaria adopted Judaism, around 740 AD. Zionism is a Khazarian fantasy.

AS for Koestler (interesting that you say he and his wife were suicided; I believed that they being atheists fell into despair): " ...[T]he large majority of surviving Jews in the world is of Eastern European—and thus perhaps mainly of Khazar—origin. If so, this would mean that their ancestors came not from the Jordan but from the Volga, not from Canaan but from the Caucasus, once believed to be the cradle of the Aryan race; and that genetically they are more closely related to the Hun, Uigur and Magyar tribes than to the seed of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Should this turn out to be the case, then the term "anti-Semitism" would become void of meaning, based on a misapprehension shared by both the killers and their victims. The story of the Khazar Empire, as it slowly emerges from the past, begins to look like the most cruel hoax which history has ever perpetrated. (Arthur Koestler, The Thirteenth Tribe, p. 17)."

Blogger FrankNorman July 30, 2016 11:30 AM  

77. Rusty Fife July 29, 2016 9:28 PM

Yep. If they build the Temple and it isn't defiled...John is falsfied.

Jesus claimed he wouldn't return until after the Temple is built.

1) Build Temple
2) No Jesus
3) Therefore Christianity falsified
4) Science!

The perfect experiment to falsify my faith.


Logicfail there.
How long does this temple have to exist without Jesus returning for you to consider your faith falsified?

Anonymous Shut up rabbit July 30, 2016 2:39 PM  

SteelPalm wrote:Putin and every Russian nationalist worth his salt absolutely despises the West, and in particular the US?

I'm happy with every single Slav hating us from across the Urals than the current plague of dindoos and mohammedans imported to hate us on our very doorsteps, taking our money, our homes, our future.

Blogger rcocean July 30, 2016 3:11 PM  

I see people are talking about Jewish IQ again. People need to understand that a relativity small number of high IQ people with "Team Spirit" and a common goal can rule the world. Imagine for example, not one Vox Day, but 500, all related by blood, with the same worldview and right-wing views, all interested in computer games/politics/literature. Things would look quite different.

Blogger rcocean July 30, 2016 3:16 PM  

The Jews not only are "tight-knit" group, but they are passionate and energetic. As businessmen in the 19th and early 20th century, they had an enormous advantage in being a urban people, engaged in trade and banking for thousands of years. Further, their religion doesn't prize a disdain for wealth or money.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents July 30, 2016 3:33 PM  

Assuming you are meaning that the Ashkenazim are Semitc and descend from the ancient Israelites, no; the Ashkenazim are a Turkic people;

That is not what the DNA and the mtDNA are telling us.

The Khazars existed and did convert to Judaism; the book known as Khazari is evidence of this, and I have known Jews who fully acknowledge this. But the notion that the Ashkenazim are Khazari does not appear to be holding up under examination any better than the idea that Semitic peoples emigrated somehow to the Americas thousands of years ago.

Anonymous Mr. Rational July 30, 2016 3:40 PM  

DJF wrote:Wikipedia use to have a big write up about it but now its mostly gone.
Whatever was once there should still be there in a previous version of the page.  Why not look it up and link it for us, and put a copy at archive.us and archive.org too?

Blogger Alex Petrov July 31, 2016 5:05 AM  

Vox, sorry to tell you, but you are way off on this.
Look, I understand why you are falling for this, and in I basically agree with you. The most important thing is for West to survive, to stand, and anyone who is against the globalists is your ally. I get all that. Also, you have very superficial knowledge about what makes Russia tick, so it is easy to get seduced by a few selectively chosen "facts". But you really seem to believe this crap, which is insane...
1) The 90s were hell in Russia, because oil prices (and oil is indicative of all commodities) fluctuated between 10$ and 20$ per barrel.
2) Everything made in Soviet Union was crap, including weapons. There were no "world-class" industries. They took good raw materials, and produced crap, that they could not sell.
3) In the 00s and 10s, price rose as high as 140$ per barrel.
4) All the pillaging was done by communists. Yeltzin, Putin and Medvedev are member of the communist party.
5) You may also be seduced by how tough he sounds, when talking about terrorists. Stupid PR that you fell for. Russians are not worse than, say, Europeans, when it comes to Muslim migration (no on can be worse), but not much better either. It's just better hidden.

Look, again, I understand it is not important. I want Russia to break up, and Ukraine to pull out of the shit-hole they are in, but I understand it is a sideshow. But still, it is weird this right-wing fascination with Putin. Comes from ignorance, mate.
Alex

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 01, 2016 5:45 PM  

Alex Petrov wrote:But still, it is weird this right-wing fascination with Putin. Comes from ignorance, mate.

It comes from envy. We're jealous that a major country has a leader who even pretends to give half a damn about its citizens.

Blogger Alex Petrov August 02, 2016 7:35 PM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:
It comes from envy. We're jealous that a major country has a leader who even pretends to give half a damn about its citizens.

I get that, Snidely. And I also want leader of Western countries to be nationalistic. But this is a sham, a pretence. Russia now is still ruled by Jewish, Caucasian (in Russia it does not mean White, it mean a Muslim) and KGB/Communist Party oligarchs. Abramovich, Rotenberg - do they sound Russian to you? All he cares about is keeping the money flow, and keeping his power (those are related), and nationalistic rhetoric - is just a cover. He is killing Russia with corruption and stupidity. If oil prices do not rise, Russia will be dead, because he killed all possibility of development in Russia. Look, Hugo Chavez was also against American Imperialism, and he was a nationalist. But no one on the right thinks he is an example of anything, but stupidity. And for some reasons, with Putin it is different. Once again, because you know only selected factoids, without going deeper. Come on, it's like believing that "Patriot Act" was patriotic. Sometimes have to read more than a headline :)

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