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Friday, July 15, 2016

War "must now be declared"

The National Front isn't screwing around:
Marine Le Pen, head of the anti-immigrant National Front, disparaged the government’s efforts against terrorism.

“The war against the scourge of fundamentalism hasn’t started, it must now be declared,” she said in a statement. “That is the deep wish of the French, and I will put all my energy so that they are finally heard and the necessary fight is finally undertaken.”
The war will start against fundamentalism, but it will eventually encompass all non-Western immigrants. War is the most blunt of instruments and the West has absolutely no need for them. Note that the Nice killer was no fundamentalist.

The center-right parties are belatedly starting to at least address the issue, but they have no credibility anymore.

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Blogger Chris Mallory July 15, 2016 2:12 PM  

Slightly OT, the latest Cuckasm from Dreher:

[NFR: I have a friend — a white French woman — who is married to a native-born French citizen of Algerian descent. His family is Muslim, but he has no religion. He is a secular corporate executive, thoroughly assimilated. Would you have him thrown out? If I were French, I would fight you to protect that man — the husband of my friend and the father of her children. — RD]

He will fight to defend his cuckiness, but not his nation.

Blogger vashine July 15, 2016 2:17 PM  

Tragic. The deaths of so many very beautiful, young European kids.... ALL on the hands of the multicultural, diversity fascists. Don't be afraid to tell your liberal, multicult, Diversity fascist friends and family members that they have rivers of blood on their hands for their willful ignorance, their stupidity, and their blind faith in a provably false, twisted, evil, and anti-white, anti-Christian ideology.

There are those who are supporting the invasion of our lands by savages. And then there are those who are too afraid to speak up against it, or get up and take action against it. Both are guilty.

Anonymous BigGayKoranBurner July 15, 2016 2:22 PM  

His family is Muslim... Would you have him thrown out?

Taqiyya. No throwing him out,he either leaves on his own or has a choice of 6 feet down or 6 feet up on a pike.

He will fight to defend his cuckiness, but not his nation.

By fight he means he will (((Better Call Saul)))

Blogger Markku July 15, 2016 2:22 PM  

Churchill's words have renewed meaning

Blogger Robert Divinity July 15, 2016 2:22 PM  

The war will start against fundamentalism, but it will eventually encompass all non-Western immigrants.

Hollande likely will strike ISIS abroad to distract from France's internal Muslim Issue. It will take Le Pen or someone much like her to attack the problem at home.

Blogger haus frau July 15, 2016 2:23 PM  

" Note that the Nice killer was no fundamentalist."

In comment sections on articles this is being argued as proof that his actions had nothing to do with Islam. I'm not getting into those arguments but I'm not entirely sure how to answer them ....or maybe I'm just sick of the flimsy rationalizations. Oddly enough we all knew the perp would be a Muslim of one kind or another well before he was identified. This is an article by Nicholas Sennels about Muslim psychology. Even "non-religious" Muslims just have an Islamic way of seeing things and cannot be trusted.
http://10news.dk/?p=323

Blogger Markku July 15, 2016 2:25 PM  

Islam says that if you die in Jihad, all your sins are forgiven, no questions asked. It is the only way to get a carte blanche pardon, and a guaranteed ticket to paradise. That is exactly why the option is so attractive to those who know they haven't been measuring up in their lives.

Anonymous andon July 15, 2016 2:28 PM  

Note that the Nice killer was no fundamentalist.

just another moderate mooslim....terrorist

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother July 15, 2016 2:29 PM  

She needs to choose this day whom she will serve.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother July 15, 2016 2:30 PM  

It's a 20 ton confession booth.

Blogger Human Animal July 15, 2016 2:32 PM  

The center-right parties are belatedly starting to at least address the issue, but they have no credibility anymore.

Kinda like Theresa May on Brexit: Sure, it'll happen, we'll take care of it, promise. Soon. Very, very soon... ish.

Blogger Johnny July 15, 2016 2:34 PM  

>>will eventually encompass all non-Western

If the worm turns that is the likely outcome.

>>His family is Muslim, but he has no religion. He is a secular corporate executive, thoroughly assimilated. Would you have him thrown out?

The problem you have is that these things tend depend on circumstance. Sometimes you can be selective and other times you can not. To use a melodramatic example because it make for easy explaining, imagine it is WWII. You are in the machine gun nest and the Germans are rushing your position. What do you do? Say some are Nazi scum and others are draftees forced by circumstance to act out? I can tell you what you would do, not at this moment, but given a week or two to adjust to the situation. You would gun them all down.

Anonymous Credo in Unum Deum July 15, 2016 2:39 PM  

His family is Muslim, but he has no religion. He is a secular corporate executive, thoroughly assimilated. Would you have him thrown out?

At the business-end of a machine gun, yes.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 15, 2016 2:45 PM  

Chris Mallory wrote:He is a secular corporate executive, thoroughly assimilated. Would you have him thrown out? If I were French, I would fight you to protect that man — the husband of my friend and the father of her children.
And whe his children, searching for meaning in post-Christian France, embrace Islam and blow up a school bus, or set fire to a synagogue, or drive a truck down a crowded promenade, will you see the problem? Will you admit that all peoples are NOT the same, that you and your type are RESPONSIBLE for allowing this?

Anonymous Gedrin July 15, 2016 2:47 PM  

Lets say, hypothetically, I wanted to ensure French nationalists win the coming civil war in France and also make a little money doing it. What would be your suggestion(s)?

Blogger praetorian July 15, 2016 2:48 PM  

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Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 15, 2016 2:48 PM  

Gedrin wrote:Lets say, hypothetically, I wanted to ensure French nationalists win the coming civil war in France and also make a little money doing it. What would be your suggestion(s)?
There seems to be a steady market for smuggled small arms in France.

Blogger praetorian July 15, 2016 2:49 PM  

Would you have him thrown out? If I were French, I would fight you to protect that man — the husband of my friend and the father of her children.

(kek)

From his benedictine retreat?

Never speak to me or my friends husbands children ever again.

Blogger Rabbi B July 15, 2016 2:56 PM  

Methinks the body count is becoming a compelling factor.

The realities of multiculturalism are starting to hit home; hitting home and hitting hard. They are going to have to get their collective heads out of their asses and admit that the strategy of Islam is violence, violence by any means necessary. Once they have identified and understood the enemy's strategy, perhaps someone with enough brains and balls will emerge to implement an effective counter strategy. Until then, get used to more of the same.

The war is no longer coming, the war is already here.

OpenID basementhomebrewer July 15, 2016 2:57 PM  

Gedrin wrote:Lets say, hypothetically, I wanted to ensure French nationalists win the coming civil war in France and also make a little money doing it. What would be your suggestion(s)?

Come up with the means to export large numbers of people from a country. Then thoroughly advertise your capabilities to the relevant political group.

Blogger Cail Corishev July 15, 2016 2:59 PM  

Rod will continue to insist that nothing be done unless it can be done with perfect kindness and rectitude. If he gets his way, nothing will be done until the only possible result is the bloodiest one.

Blogger Chris Mallory July 15, 2016 3:00 PM  

@14 I am not now, nor have I ever been Rod Dreher.


My paternal line left France in 1066, but still I am more French than Dreher's pet secular Muslim.

Anonymous andon July 15, 2016 3:00 PM  

I would say GTFO and take your mudshark and mongrels with you

Blogger Demonic Professor El July 15, 2016 3:02 PM  

As per the other thread in fighting the "refugees" and the establishment - the EU did import a de facto army in the form of the "refugees" to quell the nationalists per destructive intimidation and to ramp up the State through riots, murders, rapes, etc.

The Neo-Communists (Alain Badiou, Slavoj Zizek, among others) have been talking about this for years: ally with the Muslim radicals to destroy the West/Capitalism, have them riot/destroy as Fifth Columns, then the Revolution begins. And remember, communist philosophers like these guys teach at the unis that the EU pols went...

Blogger Dexter July 15, 2016 3:06 PM  

The war has ALREADY started.

But so far only one side (the bad guys) is fighting.

Purge the enemy collaborators and free France!

Blogger Robert Divinity July 15, 2016 3:09 PM  

Come up with the means to export large numbers of people from a country. Then thoroughly advertise your capabilities to the relevant political group.

"Export" is an optimistic scenario for some subsets of the West's mass migration problem.

@19:

France and the West's wider multicultural/mass migration problems have been ignored so long I cannot imagine what body count will be required. It only would take a few members of the political class to precipitate action, of course. Even then, will those aliens less prone to violence also be exported? Here, Latins have been murdering and raping for decades with impunity although their victims tend to be faceless.

Blogger Sithicus July 15, 2016 3:09 PM  

What the British people, and all people who value civilisation must do is choose whether they will rid their lands of Islam, or perish at its hands. There is no third choice, and the hour is late for the decision.

Anonymous 360 July 15, 2016 3:14 PM  

Declaring war on fundamentalism is about as helpful as declaring war on terrorism. This is all a push to go to war in Syria.

Anonymous r July 15, 2016 3:18 PM  

Dying in jihad expiates your sins... what a sick parody of the sainthood of the Christian martyrs.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 15, 2016 3:19 PM  

Chris Mallory wrote:@14 I am not now, nor have I ever been Rod Dreher.

I'm quite sorry I implied such. I would never accuse anyone I did not actively hate of being that cucked.

The question is, what will Rod tell his wife's kids?

Blogger Mastermind July 15, 2016 3:24 PM  

War against "fundamentalism". Looks like another secularist turd making vague proclamations that are more likely to be directed against Christians or the Far Right than against the pets of the left. Marie Le Pen is just as useless as Hollande, except the latter isn't pretending to bat for our side.

Anonymous Steve July 15, 2016 3:25 PM  

Rod Dreher - If I were French, I would fight you to protect that man — the husband of my friend and the father of her children

Bullshit. He'd sit in the corner, watching.

Anonymous Steve July 15, 2016 3:26 PM  

Looks like another secularist turd making vague proclamations that are more likely to be directed against Christians or the Far Right than against the pets of the left.

She'd go directly to jail if she said "Islam", genius.

Blogger James Dixon July 15, 2016 3:29 PM  

> His family is Muslim, but he has no religion.

Sure he doesn't Rod, sure he doesn't.

> Would you have him thrown out?

Yes. Any other questions.

> If I were French, I would fight you to protect that man — the husband of my friend and the father of her children. — RD]

How fortunate for you that your not French then. But yeah, Rod, we already knew which side you were on. You didn't need to clarify it for us.

She and the children can leave with him or not, as they see fit. And if you choose to fight for him, you can be buried in an unmarked grave with the rest of the traitors.

Blogger Ron Winkleheimer July 15, 2016 3:29 PM  

Note that the Nice killer was no fundamentalist.

I read somewhere today that European counter-intelligence against radical terrorist Islamists consists of getting the petty crook Muslims to inform on their fellow religionists.

The problem with this is that the fanatics, one they identify the informer, force the informer to undertake a suicide victim.

This is a propaganda win for the terrorists (with fellow Muslims) because in the Muslim community it is seen as the petty crook coming back to the true religion and redeeming himself.

Anonymous Bz July 15, 2016 3:30 PM  

“…Will you allow the infidels to contemplate in peace the ravages they have committed on Christian people? …Fly then to arms; let the holy rage animate you in the fight, and let the Christian world resound with these words of the prophet: ‘Cursed be he who does not stain his sword with blood!’ ”

St Bernard de Clairvaux

Anonymous Millenium July 15, 2016 3:30 PM  

Would you have him thrown out? 

Him, his mudsharking wife and their mixed race spawn.

Blogger Robert Divinity July 15, 2016 3:31 PM  

This pull quote from Reuters is beyond parody:

The country, which has Europe's largest Muslim minority, also has a steadfastly secular culture that sidelines religion in public life, typified by a ban on Islamic face veils in public and headscarves in state schools and the civil service.

Supporters say this encourages a common French identity but critics say it alienates non-Christian minorities, who see many vestiges of France's traditional Catholicism - such as official holidays for Christmas and Easter - but little leeway for them.

Blogger ray July 15, 2016 3:31 PM  

She declared war against 'fundamentalism'? What is that, exactly?

I'm a 'fundamentalist' too, I guess. Holding to Scripture as Christian foundation.

I thought France was being invaded/attacked by mooslims, not by 'fundamentalists'. Yes? No? I don't live in France.

You have a religious war, being fought on various fronts. One front is the MOOSLIM (not 'fundamentalist') front and another front is the ProgFront, which carries the pure-water for mooslims and transvestites, feminists and homos that follow after, thence taking up political power.

But here the LePens are calling for war against 'fundamentalism'. Indeed, that is exactly the language I would expect from any NWO shill, looking to protect the multi-kulti brigades that already have conquered the West, including France. LePen's announcement could just as well have come from the mouth of, oh, let's say Theresa May, the new feminist PM of Ungreat Britain. Or from any current Prog Frontperson, actually.

France's Lady Libertas sounds a lot like Amerika's Lady Libertas. Who sounds a lot like Queenie Brittany Brittania.

Anonymous Bz July 15, 2016 3:32 PM  

That's the line in the sand for someone like him, huh? If it came to that, I'd gladly trample the pale dead face of Rod Dreher to throw his CEO and muslims out.

Anonymous r July 15, 2016 3:34 PM  

Please look up French hate speech laws before you complain about Le Pen not going full 1488 GTMRWN.

Blogger Mastermind July 15, 2016 3:35 PM  

"She'd go directly to jail if she said "Islam", genius."

If she can't think of a way to word it that doesn't encompass all her dependable allies she'd be better off shutting up.

OpenID paworldandtimes July 15, 2016 3:38 PM  

Him, his mudsharking wife and their mixed race spawn.

Winner. Next question, Rod?

PA

Blogger Mastermind July 15, 2016 3:39 PM  

https://twitter.com/Marion_M_Le_Pen/status/753904029458173952

To all the French law experts here, why isn't she in jail for this tweet?

Blogger James Dixon July 15, 2016 3:44 PM  

Actually, let me correct myself above. I said: She and the children can leave with him or not, as they see fit.

That should be: She can leave with him or not as she sees fit. The children go.

Anonymous Steve July 15, 2016 3:44 PM  

r - Yes. There is no such thing as free speech in Europe.

And truth is no defence to an accusation of inciting racial/religious hatred. You can get thrown in jail for saying the wrong thing on Twitter, or even in a private email.

And the authorities would love a chance to lock up Le Pen and ban her political party. It would make their day.

The important thing is, everybody knows who Marine Le Pen meant.

Anonymous Steve July 15, 2016 3:47 PM  

why isn't she in jail for this tweet?

Do you know what "Islamisme" means?

Anonymous r July 15, 2016 3:47 PM  

It says "islamisme", a Tweet-friendly version of the "fondamentalisme islamiste" you're bitching about.

Anonymous BGKB July 15, 2016 3:48 PM  

If she can't think of a way to word it that doesn't encompass all her dependable allies she'd be better off shutting up.

I am willing to be she said it in French and that this is a translation. I had someone "prove" I misquoted Napoleon, only bet him that his version was not the words he spoke. Wouldn't pay up when proved the quote was originally in French.

Blogger Cail Corishev July 15, 2016 3:48 PM  

If you can see the writing on the wall, doesn't Christian charity require you to encourage the "non-fundamentalist Muslim" to flee the increasingly dangerous West while it's still possible to do so standing up on his own recognizance with his family intact?

And if someone who seems reasonably intelligent still can't see the writing on the wall, how much longer can that be chalked up to naivete rather than willful blindness?

Anonymous EH July 15, 2016 3:49 PM  

Here's a loose translation of a Turk-hunting song I learned on Crete, "Πότε θα κάμει ξεστεριά", also sung in the revolution of 1973:

When will there come, When will there come a starry night
when will it start to thaw so I can go down to the plains
So I, so, I can get my gun

To get my father's long rifle
my lovely bandoliers, my powder and my ball
and go down the mountain, down to Omalos

To go down, down the gorge
Down the trail of the old mountain clan
To make mothers, mothers without sons

To make mothers, mothers without sons
Maidens without men
To make babies cry all night for water

To make babies cry at dawn for milk
To cry without their mothers
When will there come a starry night?

Anonymous r July 15, 2016 3:50 PM  

Right, not everyone read the French - here you go

http://www.frontnational.com/2016/07/reaction-de-marine-le-pen-a-lattentat-de-nice/

Blogger Brian S July 15, 2016 3:51 PM  

turn off the welfare and most will leave

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 15, 2016 3:54 PM  

Marine=/=Marion

Blogger GFR July 15, 2016 3:55 PM  

If you were French you would fight and LOSE - which is really the problem. The muslims dont respect the French, and they have only one response to weakness.
.
When your French woman friend is in her fifties her husband will divorce her, marry a fifteen year old pakistani, and pump out a passel of jihadis.

Anonymous Millenium July 15, 2016 3:56 PM  

@39 Don't be deliberately dense. Le Pen is skating as close as she can to naming the enemy without getting jailed for hate speech. France's hate speech laws are bullshit and the (((judicial system))) would love an excuse to send her to jail in the hope it would stop FN's coming landslide victory.

Blogger Ben Cohen July 15, 2016 3:57 PM  

Do the elites know the history of Islam or are they ignorant? Does history for them begin in the 1960's when Islam was still sleeping?

Blogger praetorian July 15, 2016 3:58 PM  

That should be: She can leave with him or not as she sees fit. The children go.

Breaking up families? That's not our values, bro.

Stop coddling women for the choices they make. She wanted some Algeria? Let us then give her some Algeria.

Anonymous Takin' a Look July 15, 2016 4:01 PM  

@ Ben Cohen

Your (((elites))) did quite well under Islam, they've convinced my ///elites\\\ that they both will get a free ride to the top of the new power pyramid. Unfortunately, the little Jews and Whites on the street can go get fucked.

Blogger Mastermind July 15, 2016 4:13 PM  

"Do you know what "Islamisme" means?

...

It says "islamisme", a Tweet-friendly version of the "fondamentalisme islamiste" you're bitching about."


Yes, it's more specific than the vague "fundamentalism" of the OP article. IOW, she could have legally used a more specific word (contra to what you clowns claimed while white knighting for m'lady) but chose not to and instead used a word that encompanses her allies to for no reason... like I originally asserted.

Anonymous Takin' a Look July 15, 2016 4:14 PM  

And quite frankly, my attitude and the attitude of millions of awakening Whites to little jew suffering is a blase "meh". You had your chance to be humble and point out to us goyim "our big brethren are morally insane psychos, kill them before they kill us all!"

I'm not impressed with jews such as Pamela Gellar who kvetch endlessly about musloids, but never,ever touch the thousands of jewish individuals and organizations that have worked tirelessly to destroy Western White Civilisation.

Anonymous Wilbur Hassenfus July 15, 2016 4:16 PM  

Last time France was liberated, they grabbed girls like Dreher and shaved their heads.

Anonymous gxg July 15, 2016 4:16 PM  

Breaking: An attempted military coup in Turkey. The military is disarming the police, blocking roads in Ankara, tanks and aircraft on the scene. (Sorry, no link.)

If this succeeds, or heck, even if it doesn't, this will have some interesting ramifications on the whole region.

Blogger Human Animal July 15, 2016 4:17 PM  

Last time France was liberated, they grabbed girls like Dreher and shaved their heads.

Girls do that on their own now.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 15, 2016 4:18 PM  

Mastermind wrote:chose not to and instead used a word that encompanses her allies to for no reason

In what world is a fundamentalist of ANY stripe a potential ally of a French politician? France is not America. Religious fundamentalism simply doesn't exist there for any practical purpose, outside of Islam.

Blogger Chent July 15, 2016 4:18 PM  

An European here. I see that the rationale of the left is quickly changing from the untenable

a) The terrorists are only some exceptional cases. Islam is a religion of peace.

To

b) These terrorist acts are only the consequence of Western countries meddling with Muslim countries (Libya, Iraq, Syria). Before talking about banning Muslims from all Europe, let's talk about all the catastrophes made by Western powers in Muslim countries.

Obviously, I am against these campaigns in Muslim countries, but I don't want for them to be excuses for the left to absolve Muslim terrorists in the West.

What are the best lines of reasoning to go against b)? It seems that the arguments of the left have changed and we have to adapt. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Blogger Lazarus July 15, 2016 4:21 PM  

Ron Winkleheimer wrote:read somewhere today that European counter-intelligence against radical terrorist Islamists consists of getting the petty crook Muslims to inform on their fellow religionists.

Nice attack: Why the terrorists are winning the intelligence war — Spengler

The terrorists, though, have succeeded in turning the police agents sent to spy on them and forcing them to commit suicide attacks to expiate their sins. This has become depressingly familiar; as Ryan Gallagher reported recently, perpetrators already known to the authorities committed ten of the highest-profile attacks between 2013 and 2015.

Blogger szopen July 15, 2016 4:24 PM  

In the meantime...


Mariusz Blaszczak, interior minister in a right-wing government, said: "We must reject political correctness and call things by their true names. Rather than shedding tears like Mogherini and ... organizing marches that solve nothing, authorities should ensure the safety of citizens."

In an interview on Polsat News, he said the attack in Nice is the consequence of many years of "multi-culti policies and political correctness. This is how it ends."

He added: "We don't have such problems. We don't have districts where law other than Polish law reigns. We don't have no-go zones for police." He also praised his party, Law and Justice, for standing firm against accepting migrants.


The commenters in media are absolutely stupefied.. Though błaszczak made it easy for them, because while stating something in the sense "reaction of demonstrating solidarity with victims and painting flowers on pavements won't prevent attacks" he added something in sense "painting flowers was clear reference to LGBT movement".

The thing there was not a single muslim terrorist attack in Poland, Czechia, Slovakia and Hungary is just a coincidence. Absence of large muslim immigrant minorities is absolutely not relevant.

On the other hand, we will have World's day of the youth, where a lot of pilgrims is meant to visit Cracow, with pope and all.. Surely ideal occassion to terrorist attack. If there won't be one, I wonder how it'd be possible?

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 15, 2016 4:24 PM  

gxg wrote:Breaking: An attempted military coup in Turkey. The military is disarming the police, blocking roads in Ankara, tanks and aircraft on the scene.
Telegraph has something.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/15/turkey-low-flying-jets-and-gunfire-heard-in-ankara1/

Blogger szopen July 15, 2016 4:25 PM  

Damn. Snidely Whiplash, how do you do your beatiful quotes? <blockquote> and >quote< does not work. What tag are you using?

Anonymous Punisher July 15, 2016 4:31 PM  

The Muslim culture of shame produces this sort of violence. The driver didn't complete Ramadan honorably so his option for atonement was jihad/martyrdom. Just goes to show how any of your "peaceful" muzzie neighbors might be driven by guilt to slit your throat when you least expect it.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 15, 2016 4:31 PM  

Chent wrote:Obviously, I am against these campaigns in Muslim countries, but I don't want for them to be excuses for the left to absolve Muslim terrorists in the West.

What are the best lines of reasoning to go against b)? It seems that the arguments of the left have changed and we have to adapt. Any help would be greatly appreciated.


"Yeah, we probably shouldn't have tried to help them by imposing on them a level of civilization they weren't ready for. Still, we need to deal with the situation as it exists.
Alligators are fine in their natural environment, but nobody wants them in the city sewers. Islam is the sewer in which the terrorist alligator swims. We need to drain the sewer"

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 15, 2016 4:35 PM  

szopen wrote:Damn. Snidely Whiplash, how do you do your beatiful quotes? <blockquote> and >quote< does not work. What tag are you using?
If you're using the desktop browser, clicking on the numbers in front of the comment header will insert them in the paste buffer. If blogger thinks you're using a phone or tablet, that doesn't work.
specifically, it inserts the <em> emphasis tag

Blogger residentMoron July 15, 2016 4:38 PM  

@66

Chent,

there's a distinction to be made, and remembered.

If you're aiming to kill my people, I will fight to the death the kill you first. In that moment your motives (reasons, causes, excuses, pretexts, whatever) are irrelevant - completely, utterly, absolutely immaterial.

One of us is going to die and I am going to do all I can to ensure it is not me and mine.

That really has nothing to do with the folly of military adventurism abroad, blowback, islamophobia, etc, etc.

Nothing.

Anonymous andon July 15, 2016 4:41 PM  

53. Blogger Brian S July 15, 2016 3:51 PM
turn off the welfare and most will leave


yeah, that's a reasonable first step

Blogger Mastermind July 15, 2016 4:46 PM  

In what world is a fundamentalist of ANY stripe a potential ally of a French politician? France is not America. Religious fundamentalism simply doesn't exist there for any practical purpose, outside of Islam.

There are religious fundamentalists everywhere, and more importantly what constitutes a religious fundamentalist is entirely in the hands of the left. There's no reason for her to give them ammo.

Anonymous Takin' a Look July 15, 2016 4:49 PM  

@ MasterMind

Well said.

Blogger Chent July 15, 2016 4:51 PM  

Of course, I agree that this talk about the West in Muslim countries is a red herring.

But public opinion is not there yet. I would like arguments for the normies

Blogger Chent July 15, 2016 4:51 PM  

Of course, I agree that this talk about the West in Muslim countries is a red herring.

But public opinion is not there yet. I would like arguments for the normies

Blogger BunE22 July 15, 2016 4:52 PM  

@73

It used to work with my iPad but no longer does. I'm not sure if it's my new iPad or the site.

Anonymous gxg July 15, 2016 4:54 PM  

From another site: "(Turkey) military coup crowd saying they are pro western and felt Erdogan was not fighting extremism."

This seems highly relevant to the situation in France, Germany, Sweden, maybe even the U.S., whether sooner or later. The leaders refuse to address extremism, terror attacks continue, people get more fed-up, their voices are silenced by the government, frustration grows, resentment bubbles over, and someone(s) in the right position decides to address it.

A few years ago, I'd have given zero odds of this happening anywhere in Europe or North America. But now, it's easier to see how such a coup could happen in our so-called civilized countries, too.

Anonymous G July 15, 2016 5:13 PM  

Chris Mallory:

"He will fight to defend his cuckiness, but not his nation."

Rod has been very cucky the past few days.

Blogger YIH July 15, 2016 5:16 PM  

Even The American Cuckservative is getting an inkling of a clue:
It is true that ideal justice must take a back seat to a society that’s fighting for its life under attack. And it’s true that every attack like this pushes the French closer to the edge of concluding that they are in just such a fight. If a French family cannot go out to watch the fireworks on Bastille Day without having to worry about a Muslim running them down with a lorry, then the French will not be willing to live in that kind of state indefinitely. Nor should they.
Then in the next sentence he bends over and cucks out – as usual:
Something Must Be Done. Really, something must. But what effective thing can be done? Then reluctantly admits that 2+2=4:
There is this: Europe must close its borders to the flood from the Middle East. It only invites this kind of thing to occur infinitely over the decades to come. If Angela Merkel and the other Eurocrats won’t do that, the European publics will elect leaders who will.

His current hobbyhorse (along with travel) is 'religious freedom'.
But it's time to say it, 'child pornography' is not 'protected expression' under the 1st Amendment. There's also a few other things like posting Social Security numbers that's not protected either.
Why? Here's what the Supreme Court said of kiddie porn when they ruled on it in 1981:
''the Government has a duty to protect children, therefore pornography is not 'protected expression' under the 1st Amendment''
Because moslims themselves have stated in the koran:
9:5 When the sacred months are over slay the idolaters [non-moslims] wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them. If they repent and take to prayer and render the alms levy, allow them to go their way. God is forgiving and merciful.
To moslims, that verse takes priority over the rest of the koran.
Therefore, because government has a duty to protect, Islam is the kiddie porn of religion.
My position is, of course, there are plenty of countries where one can be moslim, France ain’t one of ’em, neither is the US. GTFO Mo-ham-mad.

Blogger Escoffier July 15, 2016 5:23 PM  

Rabbi B wrote:Methinks the body count is becoming a compelling factor.

The realities of multiculturalism are starting to hit home; hitting home and hitting hard. They are going to have to get their collective heads out of their asses and admit that the strategy of Islam is violence, violence by any means necessary. Once they have identified and understood the enemy's strategy, perhaps someone with enough brains and balls will emerge to implement an effective counter strategy. Until then, get used to more of the same.

The war is no longer coming, the war is already here.


Ben Cohen wrote:Do the elites know the history of Islam or are they ignorant? Does history for them begin in the 1960's when Islam was still sleeping?

All due respect guys but events are proceeding precisely as the 'elites' were hoping they might. If at this late date you think these monsters are splish-splashing through pools of blood to get to the podium to deliver another 'Islam means peace' spiel perhaps you're the one that needs to wake up?

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 15, 2016 5:24 PM  

Mastermind wrote:There are religious fundamentalists everywhere, and more importantly what constitutes a religious fundamentalist is entirely in the hands of the left. There's no reason for her to give them ammo.
In France they are called Traditionalist Catholics, or sometimes Tridentine Catholics. they are less than 5% of the population. Since LePen has officially repudiated the restoration of the Church, and supports the government's official exclusion of the Church and religious people from positions of influence, she's not on their side. Hell, she even repudiated anti-Semitism and anti-Arabism, so there's not even an emotional reason for traditionalist Catholics to support her.
For that matter, to the extent that Protestant Fundamentalism exists in France, she's officially opposed to that as well. She's not alienating potential supporters, she's attacking her perceived enemies.
She doesn't want your support, she doesn't think she needs your support, she dislikes you at best and HATES your Christianity.

From my perspective she's only a relative improvement for France, not even an ally of the Right.

Anonymous Takin' a Look July 15, 2016 5:36 PM  

@ Escoffier

The Albert Pike scenario? Definitely a possibility.

Anonymous Takin' a Look July 15, 2016 5:49 PM  

@ Snidely Whiplash

And her (((lover))) probably doesn't help matters.

Blogger Elder Son July 15, 2016 6:21 PM  

If there is to be war, let it start at home: CIA State Dept. NATO Iraq Libya Syria ISIS

http://www.globalresearch.ca/search?q=CIA+State+Dept.+NATO+Iraq+Libya+Syria+ISIS&x=0&y=0

Blogger Escoffier July 15, 2016 6:31 PM  

Takin: in my book evil computes quite a bit more than stupid. YMMV.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan July 15, 2016 6:37 PM  

I blame the cucks hang them if necessary, they folded and now rationalize the left, good riddance

Dreher is literally mentally ill so if he would shut up and go get a real job he can be forgotten

Blogger Bob Loblaw July 15, 2016 6:37 PM  

"Fundamentalism"? If even Le Pen can't call it Islamic fundamentalism we're still not there yet.

Blogger Rusty Fife July 15, 2016 6:42 PM  

Lazarus wrote:Ron Winkleheimer wrote:read somewhere today that European counter-intelligence against radical terrorist Islamists consists of getting the petty crook Muslims to inform on their fellow religionists.

Nice attack: Why the terrorists are winning the intelligence war — Spengler

The terrorists, though, have succeeded in turning the police agents sent to spy on them and forcing them to commit suicide attacks to expiate their sins. This has become depressingly familiar; as Ryan Gallagher reported recently, perpetrators already known to the authorities committed ten of the highest-profile attacks between 2013 and 2015.


Yeah (((Spengler))) also advocates going all 'Sherman's March to the Sea' on Muslim villages/mosques in the article. Is he a reliable TPTB mouthpiece or do they not listen to him?

The Reconquista may be closer than you think.

Anonymous Spartacus xxxxx July 15, 2016 7:27 PM  

Chent wrote:An European here. I see that the rationale of the left is quickly changing..

b) These terrorist acts are only the consequence of Western countries meddling with Muslim countries (Libya, Iraq, Syria). Before talking about banning Muslims from all Europe, let's talk about all the catastrophes made by Western powers in Muslim countries.

What are the best lines of reasoning to go against b)? It seems that the arguments of the left have changed and we have to adapt. Any help would be greatly appreciated.



So you admit that Muslims are mad as hell about the West? Then why on Earth would you endanger children in the West by bringing these vengeful Muslims here? Remember Nice.

Anonymous G July 15, 2016 7:27 PM  

Chris Mallory:

"My paternal line left France in 1066, but still I am more French than Dreher's pet secular Muslim."

Rod D. seems to go out of his way to mention black people he is friendly with.

Anonymous Takin' a Look July 15, 2016 7:29 PM  

@ Escoffier

In my book, Evil is -stupid- it is materialistic and thus blind. It truly cannot separate itself from sheer stupidity.

Blogger bob k. mando July 15, 2016 7:44 PM  

> His family is Muslim, but he has no religion.

34. James Dixon July 15, 2016 3:29 PM
Sure he doesn't Rod, sure he doesn't.



it's worse than that.

if he was raised in a practicing Muslim family, then he is apostate.

therefore, if the Muslim percentage of the population raises to the point where they start advocating to force everyone else to adhere to Sharia ...

Secular Boy will either have to return to the Mosque or be executed.

you really think he's not going to return to the Mosque?



57. Ben Cohen July 15, 2016 3:57 PM
Do the elites know the history of Islam or are they ignorant? Does history for them begin in the 1960's when Islam was still sleeping?



whether you consider the muslim hordes to be Proletarian or not is irrelevant.

the elites ARE Marxist, and it was an openly stated strategy in the Communist Manifesto ( 1848 ) that the Proletarians should use every means possible to destabilize and eliminate the Bourgeois.

what the French people have failed to understand is that, regardless of the Marxian orthodoxy of any particular French individual, the elites consider them to be Menshiviks, at best.




66. Chent July 15, 2016 4:18 PM
What are the best lines of reasoning to go against b)? It seems that the arguments of the left have changed and we have to adapt. Any help would be greatly appreciated.



i would agree and amplify:
"Yes, let's bring our army back home and use them to expel the Jihad. We can have them rounded up and shipped out on French Naval vessels, they can be dumped on the coast of North Africa."

i don't have any problem letting Muslims murder the hell out of each other ( which they will do, in trying to establish who will be Caliph, if nothing else ), but it needs to be made clear that every French ( whatever ) life taken will be payed back 100 fold.

Anonymous Mr. Rational July 15, 2016 9:39 PM  

Someone in a previous post asked what it would take to remove the banlieus.

Now that the precedent for trucks-as-weapons has been set, I'm betting on a fuel tanker rigged with incendiaries allowed to run down a hill into a pedestrian area in a banlieu.  Or perhaps several in the jungle next to the port in Calais.

Blogger Lazarus July 15, 2016 9:48 PM  

Mr. Rational wrote:Now that the precedent for trucks-as-weapons has been set,

They test things in Israel first, and then expand on the successful tactics.

Anonymous Rhetoric Man July 15, 2016 9:48 PM  

“The war against the scourge of fundamentalism hasn’t started, it must now be declared,” she said in a statement. “That is the deep wish of the French, and I will put all my energy so that they are finally heard and the necessary fight is finally undertaken.”

I take it Marine will now lay her life on the line by leading the charge of her fellow countrymen and countrywomen, with guns in tow, rather than waste everyone's time with empty threats. Tic toc, tic toc, tic toc.

Blogger Lazarus July 15, 2016 9:50 PM  

bob k. mando wrote:but it needs to be made clear that every French ( whatever ) life taken will be payed back 100 fold.

Better ramp that up by a factor of 10.
The Germans did the 100's thing fighting the Russian irregulars and lost. Plus, you have to account for inflation since the institution of Central Banking.

Blogger bob k. mando July 15, 2016 10:59 PM  

100. Lazarus July 15, 2016 9:50 PM
Better ramp that up by a factor of 10.


*shrugs*

do you actually think i have a problem with 'whatever means necessary'?

i'm one of the guys advocating for mounting a hydrogen bomb over the top of the Kabbah and telling these stupid assholes, "One more time, motherfucker, i dare you."

Blogger SciVo July 15, 2016 11:11 PM  

@ Gedrin: Lets say, hypothetically, I wanted to ensure French nationalists win the coming civil war in France and also make a little money doing it. What would be your suggestion(s)?

I don't know. Arms smuggling? It can't be too hard, since it seems like every alien that wants an AK-47 can get one.

So maybe specialize in AR-15s for ethnic French, so they can also tell each other apart by weapon type when it comes to it.

(I'm only half kidding.)

Blogger Lazarus July 15, 2016 11:17 PM  

bob k. mando wrote:i'm one of the guys advocating for mounting a hydrogen bomb over the top of the Kabbah and telling these stupid assholes, "One more time, motherfucker, i dare you."

Hopefully, the Iranian Shiites will accomplish that. They consider Mecca an abomination. Maybe allowing them to have nukes is a good thing.


Shoebot.com april 2015:
This is becoming unbelievable. Iran has just forbidden its citizens from practicing the Hajj to Mecca, one of the five pillars of Islam. Iran’s prohibition to travel to Islam’s holiest sites, Mecca and Media, confirms what we have been saying all along, that Iran will eventually abandon Mecca altogether. As it seems the Sunni-Shiite divide reveals a major schism between two Muslim holy cities, Mecca on the one hand and Karbala on the other, an un-healable divide that Scriptures in Isaiah 21 predicts Iran will end up nuking Arabia.

Anonymous Takin' a Look July 15, 2016 11:42 PM  

@ Lazarus

The Shi'ites are not wrong.

Anonymous Takin' a Look July 15, 2016 11:46 PM  

And WE westerners join with jews and crypto-jewish sabbatean-wahabist Sunni Saudis to declare shi'ite Iran "Evil"....


We fucked ourselves joining with jews and sunnis. God will not be pleased.

Blogger The Overgrown Hobbit July 16, 2016 2:51 AM  

"If I were French, I would fight you to protect that man — the husband of my friend and the father of her children."

And supposing her husband had done an Ayaan Hirsi Ali, I would fight to protect him too. Of course, I would mostly be fighting other muslins. But because bigotry makes you stupid, there would be some white supremacist types who would insist that a male Ms Hirsi, by virtue of his race, or to be fought, just as fiercely as an actual Muslim.

But I don't pay attention to people like that.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 16, 2016 4:02 AM  

Lazarus wrote:The Germans did the 100's thing fighting the Russian irregulars and lost.

The Germans were in Russia. The Europeans are not in Syria/Somalia/Algeria.

Arabs are NOT Russians.

Blogger The Overgrown Hobbit July 16, 2016 4:07 AM  

Islam is a Proposition Nation. It appears to be working. See the 'graph beginning "This surprised me.." here: http://10news.dk/?p=323

Perhaps, to take a page from John Wright, you could define what you mean by "proposition nation."

Also, if you want to co-opt "cucks" rather than merely point and shriek at them (effective as these tactics are against weak-willed quisling) take a look at Comrade Don Camillo (including the afterward).

Blogger szopen July 16, 2016 5:08 AM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:szopen wrote:Damn. Snidely Whiplash, how do you do your beatiful quotes? <blockquote> and >quote< does not work. What tag are you using?

If you're using the desktop browser, clicking on the numbers in front of the comment header will insert them in the paste buffer. If blogger thinks you're using a phone or tablet, that doesn't work.

specifically, it inserts the <em> emphasis tag


Thanks. Though I had to click "copy" in my browser, as other options had not worked. Maybe because of XFCE desktop environment peculiarities.

Anonymous Mack Daddy July 16, 2016 7:34 AM  

After the Algerian War 1954-62, the Algerians deported nearly one million Europeans from Algeria. Many of these Europeans (pieds-noirs) were fourth or fifth generation native Algerians. Many were liberals and were against the worst excesses of Colonialism. None of that mattered--they all got the boot. As well they should have.

But now this Algerian War (writ large) has spread to the mainland of France. Soon it will turn into a full-blown civil war. And when the indigenous French win in the end, true victory will only come when they deport ALL North Africans back to North Africa.

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