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Monday, July 04, 2016

What "Independence" day?

I don't celebrate the 4th of July. I don't celebrate "Independence Day". Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas eloquently expresses my feelings towards the Imperial USA and its regime in his recent opinion in WHOLE WOMAN’S HEALTH v. HELLERSTEDT, 136 S. Ct. 1001 (2016)

"The majority’s embrace of a jurisprudence of rights-specific exceptions and balancing tests is ‘a regrettable concession of defeat—an acknowledgement that we have passed the point where ‘law,’ properly speaking, has any further application."

John Wright has more on this from his lawyer's perspective on his site. And in case you missed the vital phrase there, I'll point it out: we have passed the point where ‘law,’ properly speaking, has any further application.

Now, this isn't news to me. I wrote back in 2004 that the country formerly known as "America" was dead. Today is perhaps the most fitting day on which to remind everyone that the iUSA is not America, and that one cannot fix a corpse.

Tibetan religious tradition has it that when the Dalai Lama dies, the Buddha of Compassion leaves his body and incarnates in the body of a young child. The monks immediately go out in search of this blessed child, and when they find him – as they inevitably do – he is tested by a group of high lamas and enthroned as the reincarnation of his successor.

Imagine, however, if the lamas refused to recognize that the Dalai Lama was, in fact, dead. Suppose that instead of going in search of the Buddha’s new carnal home, they hooked up the corpse to a life support machine and waited patiently for the Holy One to awake and rise up. It’s not hard to see that they would be doomed to disappointment, and furthermore, would fail to find the next Dalai Lama as well.

This is precisely our dilemma today, for America, as envisioned by the Founding Fathers, is dead. By every measure, large and small, the original vision of limited government by, for and of the people has been folded, spindled and mutilated beyond recognition. When one reads the Constitution, one simply marvels at the distinct difference between its words and our present reality.

Our paper Federal Reserve Notes are not Congress-issued gold and silver coins. Our direct taxes are not apportioned. We are entangled in a veritable web of foreign alliances, Congress shamelessly makes laws regarding speech, religion and guns, and the judicial branch has arrogantly assumed for itself unchecked supremacy over the other two branches.

Regardless of whether one see these changes as blasphemous treason against the Constitution, or as reasonable and necessary modifications to what was designed to be a living document that evolves with the times, it is impossible to deny that they have been made. It is likewise impossible to assert that a massive central government possessing eminent domain, owning over a third of the land, and claiming more than a third of all income is either limited or small.

For many years, conservatives and other freedom lovers have placed their trust in the Republican Party, hoping that it would fulfill its promises to return America to its national birthright of freedom and individual liberty. Those promises, unsurprisingly, were broken by the party of Abraham Lincoln, who is most famous for converting what had been a voluntary Union of free association into a forced Union made by military might.

Any last vestiges of hope in the Republican Party have been shattered by the current regime, wherein a Republican President, Republican House, Republican Senate and Republican-nominated Supreme Court have demonstrated that they have zero interest in the timeless vision of America’s founders. Supporting them in the hopes that they will revive American liberties is akin to hoping that shock paddles will suffice to revive a month-old corpse. American freedom is not only dead, it has been rotting for some time.

There are those who say that a vote for a third-party candidate, such as the Libertarian Party’s Michael Badnarik or the Constitution Party’s Michael Peroutka, is wasted. Nothing could be further from the truth. Indeed, these are the only votes that are not wasted, for positive change will only come from those outside the corrupt bi-factional system. After all, it was neither the Tories nor the Whigs who fought for American independence.

Like the Tibetan lamas, we must go in search of those in whom the spirit of freedom and liberty burns. The revival of American liberty is still in its infancy, as only 482,451 people voted for the Libertarian and Constitution presidential candidates combined, 0.96 percent of those who voted for the victorious Republican, George W. Bush. But that is 482,395 more people than the 56 signers of the Declaration of Independence, and as for those who believe our present bipartisan system is eternal, well, tell it to the Whigs.

Or, for that matter, to the optimates and populares of Rome. The choice is simple, if not easy. A revival of liberty or the continued stink of an extinct republic as it decomposes into dictatorial empire.

America is dead. Let us go, then, and find her.

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Blogger J A Baker July 04, 2016 8:09 AM  

Well of course there was that whole civil war thing, oh but that was about ending slavery.

And more recently, the President of the United States, or as we know him King Barak, has the audacity to tell Britian not to vote for their own independence, and what's more he threatens them with financial sanctions! Oh the irony.

Blogger J A Baker July 04, 2016 8:12 AM  

And don't even get me started about the Bundy's.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan July 04, 2016 8:23 AM  

America is a 3000 mile wide Jim Jones cult.

A local FM station has taken to using the term "'Merica", so when the pot heads at a rock station are mocking our country with a term to denote Idiocracy you know the dissatisfaction runs deep.

Blogger TontoBubbaGoldstein July 04, 2016 8:23 AM  


J A BakerJuly 04, 2016 8:12 AM

And don't even get me started about the Bundy's.

AL did score 4 touchdowns in one game at Polk High. We'll always have that.

Blogger Roger Hill July 04, 2016 8:28 AM  

They played the Star Spangled Banner last night right before the big fireworks show here in my home town. Everyone dutifully stood up and placed hands over hearts.
I stood out of respect, like an atheist loved one might lower their head during prayers at a funeral. When the the final line was sung, I just felt sick to my stomach. I really wanted to scream, "You're Not Free or Brave!"

Anonymous 5343 July 04, 2016 8:30 AM  

Fascinating to see how time and circumstances have modified your views, Vox, not of the problem but of the solution. Mine have been even more radically transformed, because in 2004 I could not have correctly identified the problem.

So thank you to this blog and its proprietor, who are to blame for much of the mental adjustment!

Blogger Robert What? July 04, 2016 8:35 AM  

I have been saying for some time that July 4th should be a national day of mourning, not a day of celebration. Mourning for what once was the United States of America.

Blogger ValeriusMaximus July 04, 2016 8:36 AM  

Here is the link to the above mentioned WHOLE WOMAN’S HEALTH v. HELLERSTEDT, 136 S. Ct. 1001 (2016). Justice Thomas' dissent runs from pages 48-63. Here is an excellent section from page 16 of his dissent:
"Eighty years on, the Court has come full circle. The Court has simultaneously transformed judicially created rights like the right to abortion into preferred constitutional rights, while disfavoring many of the rights actually enumerated in the Constitution... Unless the Court abides by one set of rules to adjudicate constitutional rights, it will continue reducing constitutional law to policy-driven value judgments until the last shreds of its legitimacy disappear."

Those last shreds disappeared some time ago.

Blogger J A Baker July 04, 2016 8:37 AM  

Beer, Burgers, and Bangs. Happy 4th everyone.

Blogger residentMoron July 04, 2016 8:37 AM  

In 1962, John F. Kennedy famously said, "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."

The thing I learned from my youthful study of historic empires is that their constant expansion aggravates more and more people every day, their constant over-reach and over-reaction creates more and more enemies every day.

The delusion of exceptionalism will bear poisonous fruit in bloody rebellion. To my mind it's only a question of when.

I'd rather be wrong, I'd rather see peaceful revolution, but it's not really up to us, is it?

We can, and should, and do, resist and educate and advocate for a return to classic liberal philosophy of governance, but both we and the Empire have a lot more convincing to do before we reach critical mass.

As I say, time is on our side. The murderous contradictions of our enemies pretensions ensure they will inevitably be destroyed, by themselves if not by us.

Blogger pyrrhus July 04, 2016 8:38 AM  

Eloquent! Thank you, Vox...

Anonymous SugarPi July 04, 2016 8:39 AM  

I don't own black summer clothes or I'd be wearing them today.

Blogger Dire Badger July 04, 2016 8:41 AM  

Nothing is as ridiculous as a 'spontaneous uprising'.
Where does one find leaders for this sort of thing?

Blogger J A Baker July 04, 2016 8:47 AM  

I've been watching Loretta Lynch's swearing in ceremony on youtube. It's good for a few laughs if your feeling down today. Laughter is the best medicine.

Blogger J A Baker July 04, 2016 8:50 AM  

@SugarPi,

"I don't own black summer clothes"

Do you own any orange clothes? As in orange is the new black.

Blogger Old Ez July 04, 2016 8:54 AM  

Eh, I think Liberty is the bitch-goddess of the Enlightenment (Counter-Reformation/Counter-Enlightenment were the first "Alt-Right" my friends). I am much more interested in Responsibility than Liberty. As for the LOLbertarian party, how could I ever in good conscience vote for a party that promotes open borders, social decay, libertinism, the destruction of my nation through anti-national trade practices, and makes excuses for the domination of social institutions by an aggressive and hostile ethnic minority ("because they're good at it, goy!")

Blogger sconzey July 04, 2016 8:55 AM  

"A vote for Ron Paul is like showing up to an autopsy with a live human liver: yes, the patient died of liver failure, but that was two weeks ago." - Mencius Moldbug

Anonymous NorthernHamlet July 04, 2016 8:58 AM  

VD,

Rhetorically speaking, that's one of your better writings. I enjoyed a good deal about it.

Anonymous BGKB July 04, 2016 8:59 AM  

I wish I could declare my wallet's independence from Latrina's 21 illegitimate crack babies.

from Education realist https://educationrealist.wordpress.com/2016/06/16/citizens-not-americans/

"“How many of you were born here?”Most of the hands went up. “How many of you know what the Fourth of July is, much less celebrate it?” All of the hands went down.“Yeah. You all SUCK. Do it different this year.”

And don't even get me started about the Bundy's.

If you want to shoot a gun grabber don't go out to the next Bundy ranch when every 1/2 competent govt worker is looking that way, take out on of your local AHoles and make sure to pick up your brass.

Saw this about the EU:
Pythagoras theorem 24 words
Lords prayer 66 words
Archimedes Principle 67 words
10 commandments 176 words
US declaration of independence 1,300 words
EU regulations on sale of cabbage 26,911 words

Blogger Old Ez July 04, 2016 9:00 AM  

Con't from 17 - the fundamental problem with Libertarianism, as with all economic political philosophies, is that it seeks to derive its morals from its economic precepts, when in reality societies (as organic beings) can only function successfully when its economics are derived from its moral precepts.

Anonymous SugarPi July 04, 2016 9:00 AM  

@16
Naw... I don't do "new" sh!t.

Anonymous Rien July 04, 2016 9:34 AM  

Very wel written.
Maybe there are a few candidates in New Hamsphire?

Anonymous Godfrey July 04, 2016 9:42 AM  

Today is the day of mass delusion when it really should be a massive day of protest.

America is gone. The rule of law is gone. It's time to begin anew.

Ignore the imperial dictates from the imperial city. Think locally, act locally.

Blogger Keith Glass July 04, 2016 9:42 AM  

I rather suspect our grandchildren will ask, **WHICH** Civil War. Because it's sounding an awful lot like late 1859 out there. . .

Anonymous Godfrey July 04, 2016 9:51 AM  

Exit

Exit

Exit

Blogger Mr.MantraMan July 04, 2016 9:52 AM  

Since I am an asshole and proud of it, I when given an opportunity will tell people I personally know that I am not worthy of "diversity", just not worthy. I do love me some of that agree and amplify to mock people, and I love being a bad ham actor when I deliver that crap sandwich to "my betters."

Blogger Neanderzerk July 04, 2016 9:54 AM  

I am not a patriot because the Bible forbids necrophilia.

Anonymous paradox July 04, 2016 9:56 AM  

The Libertarian Party? Better allies can be found in the Constitution Party. Instead of the party of dancing naked fat men, open borders or your a racist, Bake the damn cake Johnson, kill the babies and ban all guns William Weld. The 2016 Libertarian Party has chosen to side with the SJW enemy. The same way the original libertarians joined the communist in the Spanish Civil War.

Blogger Neanderzerk July 04, 2016 9:59 AM  

I suggest we follow Biblical secessionary precedent by splitting the nation into New England + DC vs the rest of the USA (with all of the Jews segregated to the former), then immediately going to war.

Later we can ship the survivors to Babylon/Middle East. But the war first.

Anonymous Godfrey July 04, 2016 10:19 AM  

@28

True. The Libertarian Party is dead too. Mike Badnarik was the last Libertarian presidential candidate I voted for.

[gun in hand] BAKE THE DAMN CAKE!... shhh... but don't mention the Fed.

Blogger Phillip George July 04, 2016 10:27 AM  

loyalty to Jesus - outlasts everything.

fealty to the only cause - the acausal cause.

And as Francis Schaeffer puts it "how then shall we now live?" If there was no USA there would be no Post, and without Post the Tour de France wouldn't have had a seven times winner. Viva la France. If drug testing put integrity back into the Tour all America needs is coast to coast drug testing. Karl Marx referred to religion as Opium.

So test your opium. Is it Tour specific? QED.

Blogger Al From Bay Shore July 04, 2016 10:31 AM  

Today I will celebrate by identifying which delegates to the Constitutional Convention refused to sign the Declaration of Independence. After that, I'll drink some Olde English 800 and pour out a bit on the pavement in memory of something that died long ago.

Anonymous basementhomebrewer July 04, 2016 10:36 AM  

Sentiment is definately changing out there. We had our extended family get together Saturday. We have a few moderate or apolitical members of the family that generally be counted on to express popular platitudes. This year everyone was in agreement that the US system is broken and that immigration is a huge problem.

The other thing I noticed was the usually anti-social, do my duty and make appearance, members of the family actually engaged more in conversation and stuck around much longer than usual. I think everyone is sensing that we are on the edge of some big changes and are trying to pull the family together.

Blogger Noah B July 04, 2016 10:39 AM  

Back in 2004 this seemed like hyperbole, if only slightly. Not anymore.

Blogger Rusty Fife July 04, 2016 10:40 AM  

Planned Parenthood should rename themselves Temple of Baal and register as a religion; then they wouldn't have to contort the Constitution so much.

Blogger Patrick July 04, 2016 10:41 AM  

This mess is on the naivety of the prolife movement. Prolife "leaders" thought that they could be transparently disingenuous in their argument and somehow hoodwink the SCOTUS into siding with them. Well, that didn't work out as planned. These are the same leaders who roundly denounced Trump for saying abortion should be illegal and punished.

They led the movement over a cliff with the sappy thinking.

Anonymous Bobby Farr July 04, 2016 10:47 AM  

Everything good about the US as a political entity is long dead and it is doubtful Americans will survive as a race and culture. Still, celebrating July 4 doesn't seem inconsistent with nationalist/reactionary philosophy. It is not fundamentally a statist holiday - 18th century ideas of liberty, self-determination, violent rebellion against the government, killing and ejecting foreigners and their sympathizers. All celebrated with feasting and pyrotechnics.

Anonymous BGKB July 04, 2016 10:51 AM  

Planned Parenthood should rename themselves Temple of Baal and register as a religion

A lot of Gay/lesbian youth groups would have their meetings in Planned Parenthood buildings, it was a liberal safe space.

Blogger dienw July 04, 2016 10:59 AM  

From Lame Cherry:The America which will Be

Key statement:A vote for Donald Trump is your last chance to not face genocide. Whoever else is installed, know that you will be the last of your kind. If you have children, they will be raped as slaves, and those not murdered, will produce a race of subservient bastards whose genes will be only spoken of as a by word like the Neanderthal.
Read the whole thing. Even the essay on Donald Trump:
The Master Spirit of Donald Trump

Blogger ValeriusMaximus July 04, 2016 11:03 AM  

Vox, forgive my autism for a moment, the quote you attribute to Thomas is actually from Scalia. Thomas, in the conclusion to his dissent, was quoting from Scalia.

"Today’s decision will prompt some to claim victory, just as it will stiffen opponents’ will to object. But the entire Nation has lost something essential. The majority’s embrace of a jurisprudence of rights-specific exceptions and balancing tests is “a regrettable concession of defeat—an acknowledgement that we have passed the point where ‘law,’ properly speaking, has any further application.” Scalia, The Rule of Law as a Law of Rules, 56 U. Chi. L. Rev. 1175, 1182 (1989). I respectfully dissent."

Blogger tz July 04, 2016 11:10 AM  

@20 exactly.

240 vs 100
While I rarely hold to visions, Pope Leo XIII was said to have one of the devil asking God for 100 years and God granting it.
100 years ago we got the Income tax, the Fed, and the direct election of senators.

America is also economically dead and was since 2000. The corpse is on a heart-lung machine. It had a collapse in 2008, but was returned, though rigor mortis is setting in.

It is about to die, really die, economically. The death stroke may happen today - it may be big or small but one event can push it over the edge.

Then we will have Caracas on the Atlantic, Pacific, Hudson, Cuyahoga.

Will they turn back to the author of our liberties?

Or wait for the twin idols of technology and government to come to the rescue like the priests of Baal when Elijah confronted them? Even then there were 7000 God reserved who didn't bow to Baal.

America will burn, but if you care to look, you will find millions learning what the Founding Fathers said, the history, culture, morality, religion. They're almost entirely Christians.

And they are self-reliant - it was Britain that needed us. It is Washington creating dependency.

But the phoenix of liberty will rise from the ashes.

Anonymous johnc July 04, 2016 11:14 AM  

@16 Eh, I think Liberty is the bitch-goddess of the Enlightenment

We're basically living today the trainwreck of 18th century political thought. Even the name "Enlightenment" is hilariously arrogant. Like their ancestors before them that actually built Western civilization were all blithering dolts.

Blogger Vaughn Treude July 04, 2016 11:15 AM  

Sad but true!

Anonymous David the Rose July 04, 2016 11:40 AM  

Too much credit is given to the "Founding Fathers". I suspect that they were just as wormy as modern elite politicians. They resisted the Revolution for years and wanted reconciliation with the Crown. When the revolt could no longer be denied they jumped into the lead and took over just like happened with the Tea Party. After the war was won they carefully said whatever was necessary to keep themselves from getting lynched by the true patriots. The Constitution was just a tool to wedge the people away from their freedom. Sorry for getting sludge on this wonderful blog. I return now to the Mid-wit Tar-pits from which I came, never to return.

Blogger W.LindsayWheeler July 04, 2016 11:46 AM  

Further proof that America is dead, that the U.S. Constitution is dead, is in the failure, cowardice and perfidy of the Republican Party to uphold the Natural Born Citizen clause. The littlest, almost unknown clause of the Constitution, not being upheld by neither party nor the judiciary, nor the U.S. Military tells one that there is no Rule of Law in this country. To have a Constitution, means all of it is followed. When the littlest isn't followed--then none of it is. It truly is sad.

Anonymous Cadwallander J July 04, 2016 11:47 AM  

Anyone have book suggestions for the history of the Revolution, with a good mix of political and military aspects (some light strategy). Something less tainted by modernity?

Blogger Nick S July 04, 2016 11:48 AM  

Well then, I shall hold a wake and ponder what might have been with Rib Eyes on the grill and libations aplenty.

Blogger Cogitans Iuvenis July 04, 2016 12:06 PM  

Little confused Vox, or is this post by one of your proxies? You said Trump is the only candidate talking about the issues that need to be talking about...so in that context wouldn't a vote for the libertarian or constitutionalist party be the very definition of waste?

Anonymous Cadwallander J July 04, 2016 12:08 PM  

Vox - on the freedom front, any thoughts on Nigel Farage stepping down? Would you agree that he "did his part?"

Blogger SemiSpook37 July 04, 2016 12:12 PM  

Oddly enough, this has only happened once before, with Chester A. Arthur back in the late 19th Century. Oddly enough, he was a REPUBLICAN.

If there was one vote I regret not taking, based on my sheer inability to understand that I live in a D state that hasn't gone R since Reagan, was that of Mr. Peroutka back in 2004. Very smart and sociable man. Met him once, though some family friends are close with his family. I'm sure at some point our paths will cross again.

Blogger Dean Esmay July 04, 2016 12:14 PM  

The only thing that will fix it is a new Constitution, and everyone is afraid to try to create one.

Blogger Nick S July 04, 2016 12:27 PM  

The only thing that will fix it is a new Constitution, and everyone is afraid to try to create one.

Really. You think a new one could be created that anyone would honor and adhere to any better than the one we currently have? No. Amendments for the sole purpose of disambiguation is the best you could hope for and that would be summarily ignored anyway. A season of anarchy would serve to put priorities in perspective better.

Blogger W.LindsayWheeler July 04, 2016 12:27 PM  

johnc wrote:@16 Eh, I think Liberty is the bitch-goddess of the Enlightenment

We're basically living today the trainwreck of 18th century political thought. Even the name "Enlightenment" is hilariously arrogant. Like their ancestors before them that actually built Western civilization were all blithering dolts.



I'm with Old Ez and JohnC. Both are correct. The "Enlightenment" was an Atheist movement and even the title of the Age is a redefinition of the word. Only God-fearing people receive enlightenment, not atheists. For Atheists to title their movement, an "enlightenment" is an affrontery and a planned mockery of religion in the first place. The whole of the Enlightenment must be rejected.

Blogger vanderleun July 04, 2016 12:30 PM  

"America is dead. Let us go, then, and find her. "

Why would you want to wash a corpse?

"For an old bitch gone in the teeth,
For a botched civilization.... "

Anonymous damntull July 04, 2016 12:41 PM  

I'll celebrate what once was, and what can be again.

Blogger Ponce Du Lion July 04, 2016 12:47 PM  

Most rights-specific exceptions, are not only arbitrary but aimed to stop the right of one people to be better, using their own bodies and minds, than other people.
Memorable quote. Is in my collection now.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd July 04, 2016 12:52 PM  

Robert What? wrote:I have been saying for some time that July 4th should be a national day of mourning, not a day of celebration. Mourning for what once was the United States of America.

Celebrate everything we once had, mourn everything we've lost. They are the same.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd July 04, 2016 12:57 PM  

Dean Esmay wrote:The only thing that will fix it is a new Constitution, and everyone is afraid to try to create one.

How do younpropose to enforce the new one? Same way we enforced the old one? That'll work for sure, just like it did last time!

Enforce the old constitution and we won't need a new one. Without effective enforcement, a new constitution won't change a thing.

Anonymous Napoleon 12pdr July 04, 2016 1:11 PM  

I refuse to give up. I'm a cranky 50-something...too old to change, but not too old to fight.

The way I see it, there are two problems.

The first is the lack of a political party that hasn't sold out. That can be remedied...take one over. As Heinlein pointed out, it's much easier to take an existing party over than to form a new one. What it takes is effort in the off-years. In 2010 and 2014, there were efforts at reform...but the reformers let off on the gas in 2011-2013. Again in 2015. It's going to take 6-10 years of sustained effort to win. Emphasis on sustained. And work at all levels...including the minor offices like school boards we tend to blow off.

As to the courts, the first tactic is to work around them. Legislate where the courts fail to act. The second tactic is to humble them. Move the courthouses out of big (and very liberal) cities out into the countryside...and into nondescript buildings. Demolish that fancy SCOTUS building, put them in offices that befit the junior branch of government. The third is the Nuclear Option...declare a court that's gone WAY outside the pale to be in rebellion, then suppress the rebellion.

I'm old enough to have lived through the 1970s. This feels like that miserable decade.

Blogger Josh July 04, 2016 1:19 PM  

I don't know that the God Emperor Trump would approve of this post

Blogger Ponce Du Lion July 04, 2016 1:25 PM  

Libertarianism ethics isn't about economical rights. Is about deontologycal coherence. The only way deontologycal coherence is possible is through freedom and natural(or negative) rights. Most of the rights-specific exceptions are "Positive rights" that inherently arbitrary. The new juridical system follows and is coherent only with one philosophical and legal premise. "All rights can be broken if enough people are interested in it". So if a right is giving one people a competitive advantage other people will vote to invade their personal realm. Isn't coherent proclaim the right of a woman to kill a baby(that's not part of the woman's body because genetics and because when a thing is inside another thing is not that thing,according to feminists if I'm inside a house I'm a house) while denying the right of a man to take personal and private choices about what to do with his body and mind like not to be enslaved for invaders and women in any way, from being obligated to associate with them to tax-slavery.
Libertarianism exists because Constitution and natural rights have fallen. Is the fail of democracy. Constitutions were intended to prevent abuses. But failed and so the Democratic trip. At least the non weighted democratic trip.
Libertarianism has inside coherence but not empirical. The only ethical and legitimacy-conferring factor always present behind reality is power.
This is because I'm now and White Utilitarian Authoritarian-Libertarian. Until all enemies of Nature are dead or far I won't be a libertarian again.

Anonymous Gen. Kong July 04, 2016 1:32 PM  

As was mentioned in a earlier thread over a month ago, those who call for a return to the Constitution are merely feckless ghost-dancers at best. Obviously, it makes no difference which squad of the single ruling party is voted for to serve in a nominal legislature, who behaves much like the Supreme Soviet of the USSR - rubber-stamping the decrees issued from the Central Committee, which were spelled out by the Politboro. Starting in 2015, the alleged "opposition" controlled both chambers of the Banana Empire's version of the Supreme Soviet. Theoretically they could have done a great deal to shut down the criminal activities of the regime. Instead they've rubber-stamped their approval over and over.

Anonymous Gen. Kong July 04, 2016 1:42 PM  

MantraMan:
America is a 3000 mile wide Jim Jones cult.

Not only do they swill oceans of the grape-drank, they eat mountains of turd-tacos. Both are served 24 x 7 x 365 at the Lügenpresse cafe, Bankstein's deli, the Church of the Golden Dindu and (of course) by the faithful teachers at your local public edumacayshun establishment.

I think the late George Carlin once observed that the Murikan dream really is a dream - you have to be asleep to believe it.

Blogger IreneAthena July 04, 2016 1:50 PM  

I gotta believe more than 50% of the readership of this blog will be setting off fireworks tonight anyway.

Blogger Mastermind July 04, 2016 2:07 PM  

The libertarian party is even more globalist than the republicans and democrats, a vote for them isn't wasted only because it's an even stronger vote against liberty.

Anonymous Jill July 04, 2016 2:08 PM  

I'll need to see the medical examiner report, please.

Blogger JaimeInTexas July 04, 2016 2:19 PM  

"The 4th" for me is to remember the fall of Vicksburg and what hell of "freedom" bringers they endured.

Anonymous Cassie July 04, 2016 2:19 PM  

Robert What? wrote:I have been saying for some time that July 4th should be a national day of mourning, not a day of celebration. Mourning for what once was the United States of America.

Agreed. I still remember the faint shock of realizing a few years ago that I spent many years learning American history and civics through various Christian schools/homeschool curricula and NOT ONE bothered to mention that the America they were teaching me about was not the same country I actually live in.

OT: speaking of birthdays, a certain new minion is tardy and unless she decides to quickly declare independence in what's left of today, I'll be headed to the hospital tomorrow morning for induction. Would appreciate prayers that everything would go well!

Blogger Avalanche July 04, 2016 2:37 PM  

@61 Oh geez; come on! Try to imagine explaining that to, say, Jeantel from the Zimmerman ("Trayvon Martin") trial. Even if you COULD put it in words that beast could understand -- she/it would have no interest in hearing your explanation, no desire to act on what you've described, and no ability to live within it even if "we" were able to enact it.

You cannot have Libertarian (and maybe not even Constitutional) "politics" with creatures like that as part of the polity. And certainly not with hundreds of thousands MORE of them being brought here and spread around!

Blogger Scott July 04, 2016 2:42 PM  

Those promises, unsurprisingly, were broken by the party of Abraham Lincoln, who is most famous for converting what had been a voluntary Union of free association into a forced Union by military might.

Thank you. There is no better example of "History is written by the victors" than that of Lincoln's image. Considering the unnecessary war he engineered, the countless horrible deaths that followed, and the total cultural destruction of the South, in actuality his legacy belongs more with Stalin, Mao, and Hitler than with Washington and Jefferson.

Blogger The Other Robot July 04, 2016 2:46 PM  

More in the Science is settled saga.

Blogger praetorian July 04, 2016 2:49 PM  

There is no better example of "History is written by the victors" than that of Lincoln's image

Churchill: "History will be kind to me for I intend to write it."

I don't know that the God Emperor Trump would approve of this post

Ends, means.

Anonymous LastRedoubt July 04, 2016 3:02 PM  

@Cassie - thoughts and prayers are with you.

As to the thread - I'll be having a steak and a beer in remembrance of the ideal, of the Dalai Lama we search for and hope we find.

Anonymous LastRedoubt July 04, 2016 3:03 PM  

As to elections - I'll be voting for Trump, even if there is an "R" - and then whatever most sensible candidate is left in any other slot. Probably not with an "R"

Blogger Revelation Means Hope July 04, 2016 3:09 PM  

Because many of us here were raised on a diet of patriotism and steeped in learning about our Founding Fathers, we have a deeply buried attachment to the concept of America - the Land of the Free!

As Cassie points out above, we no longer live in that nation anymore. As has been pointed out many times here in the last 12+ years, the mass immigration from non-English countries has irrevocably changed the fundamental nature of America. There is no going back. You cannot take over a political party and bring it back. Because the deeply held principles of more than 90% of those dwelling in the United States are at direct opposition to the Founders' vision of limited government and freedom.

Just look at the dismay of Republicans at their presidential candidate. Is he running on a platform, and a history of supporting, limited government? Right. And yet even his notions of not spending trillions of dollars on foreign wars is enough to make heads explode. His statements to deny non-Americans the right to invade our nation is sending many within that political party into apoplexy.

Blogger Elder Son July 04, 2016 3:11 PM  

It really is amusing to see how the globalists have turned Independence Day into military appreciation day. As if our military has anything to do with our independence, freedom, and liberty, globe-trotting around the world to, well… let’s let the man speak for himself:

https://youtu.be/VtlO39wIRWs

As if our founders, our forefathers, were out and about globetrotting around the world fighting for their freedom and liberty. When the fact is, they were right here, on this very soil, on this ground, fighting their OWN GOVERNMENT for their freedom and liberty.

And now look at what we have become. And look how Boobus Americanus wave their Made in China flags in spite of what we have become. Becoming the promise and vision of the… globalist UN founders! And too stoo-pid to see it even as the globalist spit it right in their faces.

Independence Day has just become a pathetic joke on the Boobus Americanus peoples.

All right. Let me help you out here. You know why all this tur-er-er-er-ist crap is allowed to promulgate? Because they are softening you up for war. It’s like a crescendo. Wait until they get to the high note. You didn’t really think our State Dept, CIA, USNATO, UN/NGO meddling for regime change and freedumb and libertard in Libya, Syria, Ukraine, and environs was going to… WORK… did ya? You are being played on so many fronts. Take a good look at what has happened to YOUR country in this 21st century… all in the name of tur-er-er-er-ists. Who do you think let loose the dogs? Who created the… vacuum? Who is building the… crescendo?

And when we are successful… and we will be… Who in the fuck do you think “we” is? And who in the fuck do you think will suffer the bullet holes, missing body parts, 3rd degree burns, and death… for this… when we are successful?

WTFU.

(To no one in particular)

Blogger Elder Son July 04, 2016 3:17 PM  

Happy Globalist New World Order Day!

https://mojavedesertpatriot.wordpress.com/2016/07/04/happy-globalist-new-world-order-day/

Blogger IreneAthena July 04, 2016 3:29 PM  

Shout-out to Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas!

Blogger VD July 04, 2016 4:01 PM  

You're a banned troll, 1489. Stop trying to comment here.

Blogger The Remnant July 04, 2016 4:08 PM  

If America can be saved, it will not be through existing institutions, which are rotten to the core. It will be through the non-sanctioned activity of Americans exercising their God-given rights and duties, often in defiance of those institutions. America was founded in rebellion; it will be saved only by it.

Blogger James Dixon July 04, 2016 4:09 PM  

> Little confused Vox, or is this post by one of your proxies?

It's a repost of one of his columns.

> The first is the lack of a political party that hasn't sold out. That can be remedied...take one over.

As your sort of note, that's been in progress since 2008. It's got a ways to go yet, but the results are already obvious to those who are watching.

> More in the Science is settled saga.

Well, at least if they switched to global cooling they'd have some chance of being right eventually.

Blogger The Other Robot July 04, 2016 4:42 PM  

Well, at least if they switched to global cooling they'd have some chance of being right eventually.

The thing that pisses me off is that I will likely be dead on the earliest timeline they have for cooling and will definitely be dead on the others.

Of course, other events might play out before I pass on.

Blogger W.LindsayWheeler July 04, 2016 5:10 PM  

Ponce Du Lion wrote:Libertarianism exists because Constitution and natural rights have fallen. Is the fail of democracy. Constitutions were intended to prevent abuses. But failed and so the Democratic trip. At least the non weighted democratic trip.

Libertarianism is anarchism, albeit, a soft form. Order requires discipline and adherence to authority. Order is the central facet of civilization. Libertarianism is anti-civilizational.

Second, Republicanism is not democracy and democracy is not republicanism. Don't confuse the two. Democracy always fails because it is based on the General Will and the two facets of democracy is liberty and egalitarianism. Excessive liberty, read individualism, breeds chaos, i.e. anarchism and egalitarianism destroys order and place.

No one knows what it means to have and run a republic, which is mixed government. The German classicist Karl Otfried Mueller wisely noted, "...that every insitution can only flourish in the soil in which it is first planted". [(1839) The History and Antiquities of the Doric Race, I-II Vol., 2nd rev. ed., trans. by Henry Tufnell, ESQ., George Cornewall Lewis, ESQ., A. M., John Murray; London.Vol. II, pg 99]

It is quite obvious that the WASP, along with every other modern person, really don't know how to operate and maintain a republic. Central to republicanism is Virtue and there is absolutely no training in Virtue in America. So of course, America is a failed state.

Blogger Unknown July 04, 2016 5:50 PM  

America may be dead but liberty and freedom are not, at least not in the hearts and minds of those who occupy these lands today. The old constitution is dead. With God's grace, the current occupants will soon devise a new constitution that better fits the values and ideals of all who call it home, one that protects them from all who would take it from them, claiming ownership based on manipulated truisms and a stylised account of history. bias. May it be more than a piece of a piece paper signed by 26 white men 250 years ago, men who presumed to know the meaning of liberty and freedom while denying both to all who saw beyond White Narcissus and his self-regard.

The old Constitution is dead. If you don't like what replaces it, or their cultural habits and moral challenges of those who do, do what the rebellious have always done: steal someone else's land and claim it for your own. If you leave though, be sure to close the door on your way out lest the 'enemies' of liberty and freedom want to exercise theirs.

Blogger tz July 04, 2016 6:01 PM  

Independence.

I often try to point out to "libertarians" who value freedom that they are dependent on the "WalMart supply chain" for food and other products, the internet for communication and social interaction, and Apple or Google or Microsoft.

There is something properly liberating about being to - if needed - get your own water, food, shelter. That you don't need others.

You can give generously but don't need to receive. Did not the Lord say they are more blessed?

Interdependence is still dependence.

And if your soul depends on some other entity, it is enslaved to it.

Only someone who is themselves (and their families) independent can really seek independence.

Yet the elites have their summary in Ozymandias. It is an illusion that will in time be shattered. Most will suffer. Some will starve to death.

Blogger Tom Kratman July 04, 2016 7:56 PM  

Oh, I dunno. Maybe we're not quite dead ("I'm no' qui' dead, ye'") as long as we can kill less than half the country to fix matters.

We are, however, gravely ill.

Blogger Tom Kratman July 04, 2016 7:57 PM  

"Central to republicanism is Virtue and there is absolutely no training in Virtue in America. So of course, America is a failed state."

Harder than hell to train for, yes, but not necessarily that hard to select for.

Anonymous JAG July 04, 2016 8:15 PM  

I already had a hard time feeling patriotic on the 4th since the deeming of Obamacare "passed", and now that the SCOTUS has agreed in the majority that the US Gov has a (((compelling interest))) in anti-white racism then fuck it. No sense in any loyalty to a now openly hostile entity towards my people.

Blogger SouthRon July 04, 2016 8:30 PM  

"The reincarnation of his successor". There's and entire John C. Wright story tied up in that one phrase.

Blogger SouthRon July 04, 2016 8:36 PM  

"The reincarnation of his successor". There's and entire John C. Wright story tied up in that one phrase.

Anonymous BGKB July 04, 2016 8:49 PM  

Oh, I dunno. Maybe we're not quite dead ("I'm no' qui' dead, ye'") as long as we can kill less than half the country to fix matters. We are, however, gravely ill.

Once we stop having to pay more for ZIKA anchor babies than their birth weight in gold per year we wont be a sick. The good news is that if you cut off the food stamp cards the FREE STUFF ARMY will wipe out liberals living near them for us.

Blogger Lazarus July 04, 2016 8:57 PM  

American Christian Soldier Mentions In God Speech, Other Soldiers Grab Him And Throw Him Out Of The Base Just Because He Spoke Of God
By Ted on July 1, 2016 in Featured, General

By Theodore Shoebat

The Pentagon is conducting an investigation on the US Air Force in order to find out what happened to a veteran named Oscar Rodriguez, who served in the military for thirty-three years, after he was forced out of a base for mentioning God in a speech at Travis Air Force Base.

Rodriguez, who retired as a Senior Master Sergeant in 2013, spoke of God in his speech in a patriotic flag holding ceremony, an event that he has participated in many times. First Liberty, a organization that deals with these types of cases, sent a letter to the US Air Force demanding that something be done for the wrongdoing against Rodriguez. Letter pushed the Pentagon to launch an investigation.

Rodriguez gave speeches for military retirement events, and many soldiers admired his talks. When Master Sergeant Charles “Chuck” Roberson witnessed Rodriguez give a speech at a retirement ceremony for another friend, he was greatly moved by his words of faith and asked Rodriguez to speak at his own retirement ceremony.

Senior officials found out that Rodriguez was going to give the speech and that he was also going to mention God and faith in the ceremony. Like the devils they are, they worked very hard to prevent Rodriguez from attending, but were unable to because they had no authority to do so. Rodriguez and Roberson tried to reason with military officials, even offering to put notices that God will be spoken of in the speech, but the officials gave back no response.

When the ceremony finally began, and Rodriguez started speaking, numerous Airmen actually physically assaulted him, forcefully grabbing him out of the ceremony. Air Force officials then drove Rodriguez off the base, according to First Liberty. Rodriguez stated:



To even imagine that I would be removed while the American flag is being unfurled and open—the flag which represents freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of the press…it’s horrifying …. have given more than three decades of service to the military and made many sacrifices for my country,” Rodriguez added. “To have the Air Force assault me and drag me out of a retirement ceremony simply because my speech included the word ‘God’ is something I never expected from our military.,

Blogger Mr. Bee July 04, 2016 9:30 PM  

If you're looking for "America" in the Libertarian party you're looking in the wrong place. Half are foolish gits and the other half only care about getting rid of drug laws. Their policy on immigration is worse than the Democrats. Every party talks about "America", but the America each sees is the one that only lives in their heads. You're going to need something else entirely to start over.

Blogger LurkingPuppy July 04, 2016 9:36 PM  

IreneAthena wrote:I gotta believe more than 50% of the readership of this blog will be setting off fireworks tonight anyway.
I hope so. Folks need to practice handling things that go bang once in a while.

Blogger overcaffeinated July 04, 2016 9:45 PM  

So the US is a "proposition nation?" A lot in this about ideas like limited government, not so much about a particular ethnic group.

Blogger Noel Bon Tempo July 04, 2016 9:47 PM  

While I agree with the tone and tenor of the article, it should be mentioned that direct taxes levied by Congress do not have to be apportioned since the ratification of the 16th Amendment in 1913.

Anonymous JAG July 04, 2016 10:33 PM  

Well, you mean (((deemed))) ratified in 1913.

Anonymous SciVo July 04, 2016 11:03 PM  

Dean Esmay wrote:The only thing that will fix it is a new Constitution, and everyone is afraid to try to create one.

What would be the point of creating another document to be ignored?

Politics is downstream of culture, and the problem with American jurisprudence is that it's run by Americans. Our mainstream culture is so heavily authoritarian, even our so-called antifas & anarchists are violently against free speech.

A document can't fix that.

Anonymous Gen. Kong July 04, 2016 11:17 PM  

JAG.
Well, you mean (((deemed))) ratified in 1913.

Just in time for the (((Federal Reserve))) Act of 1914. This in turn was just in advance of the great YT kill-off which commenced that very year. Their step-n-fetchit Woodrow Wilson had to win the election of 1916 by promising not in involve the country in this venture but naturally sent the troops in months after is second inauguration in 1917.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY July 05, 2016 1:04 AM  














" as long as we can kill less than half the country to fix matters."
Which half off (or less ) the country needs killing off, Tommy boy ?

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY July 05, 2016 1:17 AM  

Kratman, I get no pleasure in arguing with your silly ass, but if you think you will ever beat or subjugate my kind, you are blowing smoke up your ass , not me or mine , hoss.
We gonna have a gut check and a nut check real soon like ,yankee boy.
Check 'em homie.

Anonymous Whitey MC July 05, 2016 2:15 AM  

Ahh, the annual America is dead post by our host. Meanwhile a boat full- or five- of Africans just washed up on you dying nations shore.

Anonymous Ahmad ibn Fadhlan July 05, 2016 2:24 AM  

jOHN,

Read Kratman's recent "El Imperio Contraataque" articles at EveryJoe. See also "The Rise of the Shadow State."

http://www.everyjoe.com/2016/06/06/politics/fighting-war-to-retain-american-southwest-community-justice/ (Part 6, links to other 5)

http://www.everyjoe.com/2016/06/13/politics/shadow-state-fighting-war-retain-american-southwest/

Anonymous Abu Nidalbagdaddi Van Ibriham "Sid" Moussaininni July 05, 2016 2:53 AM  

I too recommend EIC.

Blogger Abtssyus Invocat July 05, 2016 2:58 AM  

The nation and the state have parted ways in America. That means the nation no longer owes allegiance to the state. Only one will survive. Let us pray that it is the nation.

OpenID vfmshadow0342 July 05, 2016 3:05 AM  

I've never been able to celebrate July 4th (as it would be 'celebrating my chains' due to the current political state), but I will celebrate it this year because this year was the date I got permanent residence outside the US.

@5:

I find it interesting that the part of our national anthem that typically gets sung ends in a question (that is, the first stanza), and the 4th (which is the most important stanza, and contains the answer to the question posed by the first stanza) never gets sung.

@VD:

Maybe you've addressed this already, but how would you reconcile your past statement in the article about voting 3rd Party with the fact that Trump is currently the only viable candidate?

OpenID dudequest July 05, 2016 4:25 AM  

@93-
Dude, Legalize drugs man...
Not because it's a 'human right', but because the majority of libertarians and liberals will be dead in less than a decade.
Then we can start burning opium fields and impaling drug dealers without interference from the stupids.

OpenID dudequest July 05, 2016 4:38 AM  

@86-
We don't have to kill almost half the population, Colonel, we only have to kill 2.2%.
As long as it's the CORRECT 2.2%. The sheep will fall in line behind the victors, they always do.

Blogger Tom Kratman July 05, 2016 1:14 PM  

Remus, you're too much of a pussy.

Blogger Tom Kratman July 05, 2016 1:15 PM  

And you really need to stop using the name of a real man.

Blogger Tom Kratman July 05, 2016 1:18 PM  

Dude, I'm inclined to agree. I was setting the outside limit of what constitutes a dead country. Though 2.2 percent is low. I think we need to get rid of about 4 million common law felons, in suitably grisly ways, 5 million lefties, and about 1 million of the theoretical righties - meaning people like Remus who are so cowardly and stupid that they give being right wing a bad name.

OpenID dudequest July 05, 2016 6:52 PM  

@111- I was being anti-semitic

OpenID dudequest July 05, 2016 6:56 PM  

And BTW, we desperately need a Carrera. Although I am disinclined to agree that south America is the best place to start a countermovement. Perhaps America post-convergence.
On the bright side, The Tauran Union is shattered.

Anonymous BGKB July 05, 2016 7:17 PM  

Though 2.2 percent is low. I think we need to get rid of about 4 million common law felons, in suitably grisly ways, 5 million lefties, and about 1 million of the theoretical righties... I was being anti-Semitic

Coral the 50 richest jews at least because you will never get a jewish judge to convict them. One of the big uncertainties with a SHTF situation is if prisons would shoot felons or set them free. If you look at the Survivalist blog to see the Conflicted game card discussions you should be able to figure out who I am, one card had you coming across a prison bus that was flipped over on fire asking what you would do. ;)

Blogger Tom Kratman July 05, 2016 8:01 PM  

Nah, not more than half the Jews need to go, and probably not even that many. Decadent WASPs, though; many - oh, _many_ - of those we can do without. They've sold out the country more than most. Ueber-liberal Catholics, ditto.

Most of our problems could be fixed by a timocracy (which, no, Remus, you moronic, cowardly twat and shithead, is not rule by people named "Tim"), really. The liberal part of the electorate would drop by about 90% or more, and the SJW part would barely exist.

Then we probably wouldn't have to shoot, hang, burn or drown any millions out of hand. At least - the emergency having passed - we could afford hearings before shootings.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY July 06, 2016 1:02 AM  

We could damn sure do without loud mouthed Boston birthed tin soldier twats, that's for sure.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY July 06, 2016 2:54 AM  

" you're too much of a pussy."
HEH
"And you really need to stop using the name of a real man."
He is in my ancestry, whether you like it or or no.
I used it way before I knew who a Tommy Krapsman was, or whatever you go by ever yapped here and will continue to do so. Too effin bad if you no likee , me no care.
I'm done with you mighty mouse, maybe you should do the same.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY July 06, 2016 3:19 AM  

"And BTW, we desperately need a Carrera. Although I am disinclined to agree that south America is the best place to start a countermovement"
And you are are not there yet gettin' the ball rollin' because ?

OpenID dudequest July 06, 2016 3:30 AM  

@115- Well, Colonel, I suppose my view is a little more right wing than that, Timocracy is decent but I am more in favor of full-bore Stratocracy.

The Ironic part is that the jews really are NOT the problem... Inasmuch as it appears that a certain group of jews (less than 1%) tends to manipulate and destroy their own people vastly more than the cultures that they parasitize.

But, like most people, Jews seem to be utterly incapable of seeing past their jewishness to recognize that their own elites use and abandon them with wanton ruthlessness. They are so consumed with their jewish group identity that they are blinded to the perfidery of their own social leaders.

I often point out that the Holocaust was a hoax. Not it's literal existence, but it was the ultimate hoax played on the German Jews themselves. The Jewish 'elites' got out of Germany while the getting was good, taking their wealth and power with them, while leaving behind all those lesser jews who had virtually no part in the cultural destruction of Germany that preceded WWII. With this, they firmly and for all time cemented the concept of Jewish persecution, as well as cementing Jewish unquestioning loyalty to identity.

The worst enemy the Jews have ever faced is themselves.

OpenID dudequest July 06, 2016 3:41 AM  

Oh, and dear god, never read Williamson's 'Freehold' series unless you are drunk.
It's like... he recognizes every single one of the problems, and then immediately goes full-bore liberardian pscyhotic with the 'answers'.
identity politics a problem? destroy all group indentity
a new world with unlimited racial, social, religious, and sexuality blending? Oh no problem... Ethics be damned, free markets are the answer to EVERYTHING.

Michael Z. Williamson did more to point out the utter stupidity and magical unicorn lies of Libertarianism by writing about a libertarian Utopia than any realist EVER did by pointing out the deal-breaking flaws inherent in it's philosophy.

Kicking a reader out of a willing suspension of disbelief by including a magical unicorn fairy in science fiction is the kind of shock that makes people reassess their beliefs utterly.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY July 06, 2016 4:16 AM  

If you are are talkin' to me me, dude, I don't do fiction, not at all. Got no interest in it. Let's do facts, not fairy tales.

Blogger Tom Kratman July 06, 2016 4:46 AM  

Oh, Remus, you poor ignorant twat; is it absolutely imperative that you act like a low brow banjo player from Deliverance, stepped off the big screen and into real life? Must you, I mean really _must_ you, serve as the incarnate insult of every Yankee toward every southerner, ever? Do you have to remind everyone why the South lost so completely?

And stop using the name of a real man; you're not entitled.

Pussy.

Blogger Tom Kratman July 06, 2016 4:58 AM  

Truth in advertising; I just finished a story - Okoyyuki - for Mike to include in a Freehold anthology, one centered around the sword.

Mike actually does understand most of the problems with extreme libertarianism better than do other libertarians, objectivists, and An-Caps. But he had an idea and wanted to explore it. And did. (And my former law partner helped some with the Constitution of Freehold, though I don't know how much was reflected.)

For my part I ask three questions of extreme libertarians, "Consistent with your libertarian principles:

How do you deal with foreign enemies?
How do you deal with domestic enemies?
How do you deal with public health, by which I mean plague prevention, not socialized medicine."

I've yet to get a credible answer to any of those. You mention vectors and ranges of vectors and get blank stares. And then when El Neil cites to the NVA and Vietcong, highly disciplined defenders and promoters of totalitarianism, as exemplars of libertarian civilian defense...fuck, the mind shudders. (Yes, he really did.)

Blogger Tom Kratman July 06, 2016 5:00 AM  

Addendum:

Dude, I know the military from the inside, and extremely well. Trust me, you do NOT want them in charge. I mean _really_ not.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY July 06, 2016 5:03 AM  

I love insulting Yankees every chance I get, Tommy.
Quit being a god damn punk, Tommy, you do your sorry assed kin no favor, you Kwee-yah.
Yankee ( spits ).

Blogger Tom Kratman July 06, 2016 5:19 AM  

Truth in advertising; I just finished a story - Okoyyuki - for Mike to include in a Freehold anthology, one centered around the sword.

Mike actually does understand most of the problems with extreme libertarianism better than do other libertarians, objectivists, and An-Caps. But he had an idea and wanted to explore it. And did. (And my former law partner helped some with the Constitution of Freehold, though I don't know how much was reflected.)

For my part I ask three questions of extreme libertarians, "Consistent with your libertarian principles:

How do you deal with foreign enemies?
How do you deal with domestic enemies?
How do you deal with public health, by which I mean plague prevention, not socialized medicine."

I've yet to get a credible answer to any of those. You mention vectors and ranges of vectors and get blank stares. And then when El Neil cites to the NVA and Vietcong, highly disciplined defenders and promoters of totalitarianism, as exemplars of libertarian civilian defense...fuck, the mind shudders. (Yes, he really did.)

Blogger Tom Kratman July 06, 2016 5:19 AM  

Oh, Remus, you poor ignorant twat; is it absolutely imperative that you act like a low brow banjo player from Deliverance, stepped off the big screen and into real life? Must you, I mean really _must_ you, serve as the incarnate insult of every Yankee toward every southerner, ever? Do you have to remind everyone why the South lost so completely?

And stop using the name of a real man; you're not entitled.

Pussy.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY July 06, 2016 5:36 AM  

Tommy,
You are pretty fuckin' lame. I would have thought you could do better than your lame ass stuff. But that is the way you sorry -assed yankees roll. Why any body would buy your books , much less read your intertoobz crap defies all reason.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY July 06, 2016 5:49 AM  

I am waiting for your fan club to show up, Tommy.
You cunt. And you are one, truth be told.

Blogger Tom Kratman July 06, 2016 6:07 AM  

In the mind of God there exists the image of the perfect pussy, Remus. That image is you.

Pussy.

Blogger Tom Kratman July 06, 2016 6:08 AM  

Oh, and, once again, stop using the name of a real man to try to cover up your inherent pussiness.

OpenID dudequest July 06, 2016 5:17 PM  

@124-

I might have a more idealized image, USN retired enlisted.
To me, the idea of having some of our hard-as nails and utterly realistic warrants in charge has an awful lot of appeal.
Of course, The officers? Well, you know better than I do. My father is retired AF light colonel and I wouldn't put him in charge of a house made of lincoln logs unless I wanted it destroyed.

OpenID dudequest July 06, 2016 5:23 PM  

Is that what a Timocracy is? a government made up of ex-military, where government responsibility does NOT depend upon military rank, only the fact that you chose to enlist?

I was thinking more along the lines of ST'ish 'Service allows you the privilege and responsibility of voting'
Sometimes the terminology seems to drift and eddy precipitously. Even the wikipedia, new world dictionary, and mirriam-webster seem to disagree on half the meanings.

Blogger Tom Kratman July 06, 2016 5:47 PM  

Right. Though the term isn't used there (and one might argue about the use; Rule of Virtue or Rule of the Virtuous) a Timocracy, as shown in Starship Troopers or somewhat expanded upon in The Lotus Eaters, is rule by those who have demonstrated, through a period of low paid, difficult, and dangerous service, that they put the good of the country over their own good.

This and the next two of three covered it: http://www.everyjoe.com/2015/11/02/politics/service-guarantees-citizenship/#1

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