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Tuesday, July 12, 2016

Wounded Gamma loses again

One significant characteristic of the Gamma male is that he cannot deal with being publicly shown to be wrong. Such an event punctures the delusion bubble in which he, the Secret King, always triumphs, so it creates a wound that never heals, and festers much longer than any higher-rank man can imagine. Even if he manages to control himself and not let it show immediately, it eats away at him and preys on his mind.

The way the Gamma usually deals with a festering wound is to attempt to negate it by subsequently demonstrating his superiority to the party who dealt it to him. This means that he will lie in wait, for years if need be, for what he sees as an opportunity to prove the offending party wrong. This, he believes, will disqualify and discredit the party, which somehow means that the Gamma was not wrong the first time, even though he was. But no matter, the Secret King triumphs in the end!

This behavior is so predictable that I not infrequently find myself able to correctly anticipate when a previously wounded Gamma is going to think he sees an opening and launch what I am coming to think of as a restorative rebuttal. However, I did not see this one coming; I did not think that Camestros Felapton was dumb enough to launch what is either his third or his fourth attempt to repair his delusion bubble since being so publicly humiliated about his lack of knowledge concerning rhetoric in Of Enthymemes and False Erudition. Apparently the sting of his repeated defeats at my hands has become more than he can bear, because he is really grasping at straws now.
The other day Vox was disparaging about the value of scientific evidence. I’m not entirely sure if he is clear himself about what he means but when it comes to IQ he is happy to post anything that he feels supports his case. This time, it is a pair of studies that point to a 4 point decline in IQ in France in a 9-10 year period. Vox quotes a second study that was an analysis of the first. This second study was an attempt to discern the cause of the decline by looking at the magnitude of the changes at a subtest level. This second paper concluded that the decline ‘likely has a primarily biological cause’. Vox declares it was due to immigration.
Did I now? What did I actually write? Let's review:

My estimate of a post-1965 four-point IQ loss in the USA was a minimum estimate based solely on replacement migration, but considering that dysgenic fertility is also a factor in the USA, the actual decline is almost certainly worse.

If replacement migration is also the lesser factor in the US case, then the post-1965 IQ decline in the USA could be as much as 10 points. However, US immigration has been higher and US native birth rates have remained higher than in France, so something on the order of 7-8 points is more likely. This is not insignificant; it is the difference between the current USA and Sierra Leone.

So, Camestros is obviously wrong. I did not say the decline was due solely to immigration, I merely repeated what the study said, which is that the reported IQ decline in France was primarily due to dysgenic fertility and secondarily due to immigration.

Moreover, this shows that Camestros was not merely wrong, he was lying, because I even pointed out that while dysgenic fertility appears to have been the primary factor responsible in France, in the US it is more likely that immigration is nearly as important a factor for two reasons: US immigration rates are higher and US native birth rates are higher. There is a third reason as well; higher abortion rates among the lowest-IQ population tend to partially counterbalance the lower fertility rate of the highest-IQ population.

We had damn well better hope I am right, because we know the immigration-related decline of IQ in the USA is at least 4 points based on population averages. If the dysgenic fertility decline in the USA is, like France, even worse than the immigration-related decline, then we will have already seen a catastrophic decline in average US IQ of 9 points or more! In his desperation to declare me wrong about immigration and IQ, (and therefore retroactively wrong about Aristotle and rhetoric) Camestros fails to even notice the horrific implications of his argument. Who cares about that, what is important is to patch up that punctured delusion bubble stat!

Finally, after again trying to cast doubt on IQ as a reasonable metric for intelligence as well as upon the possibility of comparing average national intelligence levels, Camestros ends by saying, "neither paper ends up agreeing with Vox’s conclusion."

Considering that neither paper addresses the USA at all, it would be absolutely remarkable if either of them had.

Once more, Camestros provides us with sufficient evidence to safely conclude that if IQ is a reasonable measure of innate intelligence, his is considerably lower than mine. It's funny that despite being such a questionable metric, a similar percentile just seems to keep showing up no matter how it's measured.


Of course, my actual vocabulary is probably more than twice that, but then, we're not counting Italian, German, French, or Japanese vocabularies.

UPDATE: Gammas never learn. And they never stop lying.

Camestros Felapton ‏@CamestrosF
@voxday declares me beneath his consideration, again

Supreme Dark Lord @voxday
You're lying, again. I take on all comers. Even hapless, midwitted gamma males like you. 

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Blogger FALPhil July 12, 2016 8:08 AM  

Why would a person continue to humiliate himself? I can understand doubling down, but Camestros is going to great lengths to appear smarter than he actually is and it is past the point of embarrassing.

Anonymous Toastrider July 12, 2016 8:13 AM  

One of the hallmarks of maturity is the ability to admit error.

What's more, I've never seen you disparage scientific evidence. I have seen you disparage blind faith in science (scientism), but the very nature of the scientific method should preclude blind faith to start with -- and if someone is not doing that, they are very clearly 'doin' it wrong'. In other words, science is all about doubt, analysis, repeating the experiment, and error checking to make sure nobody screwed it up.

I swear, I think they don't teach about Piltdown Man any more.

Blogger VD July 12, 2016 8:20 AM  

Why would a person continue to humiliate himself?

It's a Gamma thing. Delta Man can explain much better than I can, but as near as I can tell, Gammas think that it's always double-or-nothing. So, no matter how many times they lose, or how many people see it happen, if they can just win once, they can run away victorious.

If a Gamma wins, he never wants to play again. Instead, he'll always refer to his one brief shining moment and claim superiority on that basis.

Of course, this is because he knows he's inferior. I once happened to beat two very good backgammon players, who played every day, in succession. It was the first and only time I played them. It was mostly luck; they are both much better at the game than me. I promptly retired and drove them crazy for years afterwards by pointing out that I was undefeated against them.

Of course, I don't give a damn about backgammon, which was the main reason I hadn't been playing it with them in the first place. Irritating them was just a bonus.

Blogger Noah B July 12, 2016 8:22 AM  

Impressive. 29975 here.

Blogger Nate July 12, 2016 8:22 AM  

The primary affliction of the Gamma Male.... The Elsa Complex. They just can't let it go.

Anonymous Steve July 12, 2016 8:30 AM  

30500.

I am most cromulent.

Blogger Salt July 12, 2016 8:32 AM  

Scored in the top 5.58%. I'm good with that.

Blogger Ron Winkleheimer July 12, 2016 8:33 AM  

29800

Anonymous Steve July 12, 2016 8:35 AM  

To be fair to you colonials, many of you aren't as good with the English language like what we is.

Blogger Noah B July 12, 2016 8:37 AM  

At least we spell Aluminum correctly.

Blogger Krul July 12, 2016 8:39 AM  

Same score as mine. Nice.

Did the "avulse" question trip you up to? It wasn't until after that I slapped my forehead "Avulse! As in "avulsion"! Duh!"

Blogger Noah B July 12, 2016 8:41 AM  

Yeah I missed the avulse question.

Anonymous Steve July 12, 2016 8:43 AM  

See what I mean, Noah?

And it was named by an Englishman, too. Shame on you!

I've information vegetable, animal and mineral.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan July 12, 2016 8:44 AM  

You can chase most people off of anything if you question them. I'm an intellectually curious person even if I am a midwit and thru out life I have found even a gentle questioning with innocent intentions most people reflexively tense up, people know what they know and that is it.

Like this gamma chump if asked about if he/she/it believes in the Blank Slate Theory would probably just die. These chumps don't even give conservative intellectuals any credit for trying to hold a debate so afraid their secret king of sacred knowledge status would be exposed for the fraud it is.

There really is nothing there, it is about time that conservative intellectuals admit this.

Blogger Chris Mallory July 12, 2016 8:44 AM  

30325

Anonymous bbtp July 12, 2016 8:47 AM  

30,500. Don't you ever get sick of running a blog populated by low-IQ mouth-breathing sycophants like me? :) https://i.sli.mg/cTKosV.png

Blogger Noah B July 12, 2016 8:47 AM  

Yes, but it took an American and a Frenchman to make its electrochemical extraction economically feasible.

Anonymous Raptor disrespect from behind July 12, 2016 8:47 AM  

I got 29,800. Not bad for an engineer, so perhaps that test is not so accurate.

I speak spanish, chinese and japanese so my vocab is higher as well.

Blogger Orville July 12, 2016 8:48 AM  

I think Cameltoe Felatrix got caught in one of the IQ brownout or blackout zones. Poor little feller just doesn't have the horsepower.

Woot! 29,800, and avulse threw me as well.

Blogger Nate July 12, 2016 8:48 AM  

30300

Blogger natschuster July 12, 2016 8:49 AM  

I got ~28000 top .016%. It said I was a shakespeare and had permission to make upmy onw words. I don't think this test really means much. I don't think I'm that smart.

Blogger VD July 12, 2016 8:51 AM  

30300

And if we average that out with your score on the punctuation test, you'll be at what, the 52nd percentile?

Anonymous Steve July 12, 2016 8:53 AM  

bbtp - Congratulations! You are officially British.

Anonymous Steve July 12, 2016 8:56 AM  

I think if John C. Wright were to take that test the server would blow up.

Blogger Orville July 12, 2016 8:57 AM  

Oh, and that test...rayciss! It said "niggardly". A fun word to use in mixed gatherings.

Blogger Cail Corishev July 12, 2016 8:58 AM  

I can create new words to expand the English language? Good to know.

Blogger Orville July 12, 2016 9:01 AM  

Why not? Shitavious does it. I'm sure we could come up wit sumtin betta dan "shizzle".

Blogger Krul July 12, 2016 9:01 AM  

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Blogger Worlds Edge July 12, 2016 9:03 AM  

"Avulse" was a new one on me. Beyond that, I got the same result as Vox, oddly.

http://imgur.com/ySKr3dJ


But, meh. I'm a bit skeptical of on-line tests like this, if only because I tend to "punch above my weight" when I take them. The full-bore IQ test I had done a few years ago only put my IQ at a 126.

Anonymous Steve July 12, 2016 9:09 AM  

Far as I can tell, invigilated IQ tests are pretty accurate. But they don't measure more important attributes, such as handsomeness or funnyability.

Anonymous David-093 July 12, 2016 9:10 AM  

"And if we average that out with your score on the punctuation test, you'll be at what, the 52nd percentile?"

Headshot.

Anonymous Eduardo July 12, 2016 9:12 AM  

Fantastic score really... My vocabulary is 22050, top 6,58%. Funny how stop learning yields such a devastating blow to ones progress.

U____U now Voxy... That is horrendous to just put that top 0.01% there. The Gamma will most likely jump off the window, and we will all know it is on you.

Blogger The Sasquatch July 12, 2016 9:13 AM  

29800. Close-ish, but then Io non capisco l'Italiano.

Being Gamma sounds exhausting. Too many grudges to hold. Too much time spent on miniscule slights.

Blogger Krul July 12, 2016 9:13 AM  

Let us all congratulate ourselves on our mastery of the Norman tongue

Anonymous karsten July 12, 2016 9:14 AM  

My score: 30325

I only failed to recognize one word: "avulse."

Anonymous Faceless July 12, 2016 9:14 AM  

Bully!

All those years of coding did me good!

"Your English Vocabulary Size is:

30325
★★★ Top 0.01%"

"You are Shakespeare! You can even create new words that will expand the English dictionary."

Anonymous Elipe July 12, 2016 9:15 AM  

Top 5%. Maybe I should start reading more.

Anonymous JAG July 12, 2016 9:16 AM  

Apparently the sting of his repeated defeats at my hands has become more than he can bear, because he is really grasping at straws now.

This is the stuff that Dark Lords are made of.

Two things we know about this sentence. 1) Felapton will read it, and 2) Felapton will never get over it.

Blogger Krul July 12, 2016 9:16 AM  

Incidentally, Blackadder is definitely a Gamma "Secret King" type character.

Anonymous Eduardo July 12, 2016 9:16 AM  

30300

Nate's way of saying: you sucky sucky Vox-Man #neverTrumpski

Seriously it must be funny to work with the both of you... Sounds like the relationship of the three stooges or any other dysfunctional group.

Anonymous BrerFox July 12, 2016 9:17 AM  

Careful Vox. Openly posting your score to an online test, can you imagine the crowing should a Scalzi best your grade? I do rather like how a test consisting of 250 words can be extrapolated to a vocabulary range of circa 30000.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother July 12, 2016 9:19 AM  

29275. I'll give my dad the credit for that.

Anonymous Eduardo July 12, 2016 9:20 AM  

Reading all of your scores, and the fact that my subtitle says that I am on par with the white-collars in the US: my oh my they don't even rise to the level of a foreigner T_T they are retards I tell'ya!!!

Blogger JaimeInTexas July 12, 2016 9:24 AM  

I got 30325.

Now, if only my brain-to-finger IQ would reflect my score when I type.

Blogger Nate July 12, 2016 9:24 AM  

"And if we average that out with your score on the punctuation test, you'll be at what, the 52nd percentile?"

Its true... the glare from these TWO VPFL Championship Rings makes it hard to see the difference in a quote and an apostrophe.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother July 12, 2016 9:29 AM  

Burn cream...now in Italian!

Blogger VD July 12, 2016 9:33 AM  

Careful Vox. Openly posting your score to an online test, can you imagine the crowing should a Scalzi best your grade? I do rather like how a test consisting of 250 words can be extrapolated to a vocabulary range of circa 30000.

I'm sure if he takes it enough times he'll be able to do that. But what do I care? My score is what it is. That's always been my take on things, whether I do well or not.

One of the things about being a lifelong athlete is the certain knowledge that you WILL lose. If you can't handle that, you'd better either a) be Michael Jordan in his prime or b) never take the field.

the glare from these TWO VPFL Championship Rings makes it hard to see the difference in a quote and an apostrophe.

Bastard. I got nothing.

Blogger Nate July 12, 2016 9:38 AM  

"
I'm sure if he takes it enough times he'll be able to do that. But what do I care? My score is what it is. That's always been my take on things, whether I do well or not."

My Vocabulary score is up to 35,000! - John Scalzi

Blogger synp July 12, 2016 9:38 AM  

23400. Not great, but OK I guess for an ESL.

Elipe wrote:Top 5%. Maybe I should start reading more.

It's not so much reading more, as reading better stuff, and not skipping words you don't understand, even if you can still get the meaning of the surrounding sentence.

Blogger David The Good July 12, 2016 9:42 AM  

I tied Vox at 30150.

As a Castalia House author, this is of course the minimum bar.

Anonymous Steveo July 12, 2016 9:45 AM  

29975... I am the antonym of ebullient, the synonym of morose, missing the last 25 pointses to go over 30K. Can a brother get a handout?

Blogger David The Good July 12, 2016 9:47 AM  

@Steveo

No, you can't. A Hispanic Native American already set the curve, so you're stuck.

Blogger Werekoala July 12, 2016 9:47 AM  

Same score as Vox - that must be as high as it goes.

Well, back to staring at spreadsheets...

Blogger slarrow July 12, 2016 9:48 AM  

Heh. I figured as soon as I saw the post that the thread would be full of folks posting their own scores.

Who am I to fight consensus? 30500. Nice to be in good company.

Blogger Josh July 12, 2016 9:48 AM  

29975

Anonymous BrerFox July 12, 2016 9:50 AM  

Exactly that. I'm not worried about Vox' resilience as the ability of Twitter and the blogosphere to handle the additional gloat.

Anonymous andon July 12, 2016 9:50 AM  

29450 - do you think they inflate this stuff because there's no way im in top 1%, prob not even top 10% or 20%. I never even got past junior college, lol

Blogger Orville July 12, 2016 9:52 AM  

Heh. I figured as soon as I saw the post that the thread would be full of folks posting their own scores.

That's because nobody cares about the Secret King Camshaft Flaptation. I can hear his ego crumping.

Anonymous Hezekiah Garrett July 12, 2016 9:54 AM  

You mean he will defenestrate. That's a freebie.

Anonymous Faceless July 12, 2016 9:54 AM  

slarrow wrote:Heh. I figured as soon as I saw the post that the thread would be full of folks posting their own scores.

Who am I to fight consensus? 30500. Nice to be in good company.


It is an Ilk tradition to fight over these little things. Whose is bigger?

Now, let's talk about the 9mm Luger parabellum...

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother July 12, 2016 9:57 AM  

Faceless, redeem yourself by disavowing the 9mm Parabellum. It is a round only suitable for Communists and Social Justice Warriors.

Blogger Jonathan L Brown July 12, 2016 9:59 AM  

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Blogger Sheila4g July 12, 2016 10:00 AM  

Okay, so I'm not a midwit vocab wise - 30150, same as Vox. However - I have a list from a book I was reading not long ago where I had to stop every other sentence to look up a word - a humbling experience. Perhaps others here are more familiar than I was with:

tribade
nescience
inutile
fossicking
atrabilious
thalassocracy
esuriant
contumacious (this rang a bell but I wasn't certain and still double checked, so stays on the list)

Anonymous Faceless July 12, 2016 10:00 AM  

Stg58/Animal Mother wrote:Faceless, redeem yourself by disavowing the 9mm Parabellum. It is a round only suitable for Communists and Social Justice Warriors.

I've always shot .357 magnum before, but recently got a .40 S&W. No 9mm.

Anonymous crispy July 12, 2016 10:01 AM  

30325. So why ain't I rich?

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother July 12, 2016 10:01 AM  

Thank Browning you're not infected.

Blogger Jonathan L Brown July 12, 2016 10:02 AM  

30000 on the nose. Fun for a Tuesday.

Blogger David The Good July 12, 2016 10:02 AM  

@Sheila4g

Wait - you weren't reading Ogden Nash, were you?

Anonymous Philalethes July 12, 2016 10:03 AM  

30500 here. I guess I cheated; I looked up "avulse" (my iPad wants to make that "values"). I'm certain I'd never seen the word before. So I must have gotten one or two others wrong? Hmm.

Seems Mr. CamFlap is really a glutton for punishment. Sad. Given that the article he's attacking is somewhat vague in its conclusions, presented more as speculative opinion rather than cold fact, it seems a particularly foolish place to try to make a stand.

Blogger Alexander July 12, 2016 10:03 AM  

Knowing "Thalassocracy" just shows you've played as Venice in Europa Universalis.

OpenID meistergedanken July 12, 2016 10:05 AM  

@53 "Same score as Vox - that must be as high as it goes."

Nope; I got 30325. However, I confess that I kind of guessed for one question - don't know if I got it correct or not (never encountered "avulse" before).

Blogger James Dixon July 12, 2016 10:07 AM  

OK, I couldn't resist. I knew your vocabulary was slightly better than mine, but wanted to check: Your English Vocabulary Size is: 29975.

Blogger CM July 12, 2016 10:08 AM  

Top 5%. Maybe I should start reading more

Reading only works if its the dictionary or old literature. Modern books write at a middle school level if not lower.

Seems like most of the high scorers are multilingual, giving them an edge on linguistic intuition.

I got 4.27%

Blogger Wanda Sherratt July 12, 2016 10:10 AM  

Ahem... my score was 30500! "Avulse" was a tough one. Had to deduce from "revulse", and managed to get it correct, but I'd pretty much score that one a guess.

Blogger Human Animal July 12, 2016 10:10 AM  

One of the things about being a lifelong athlete is the certain knowledge that you WILL lose. If you can't handle that, you'd better either a) be Michael Jordan in his prime or b) never take the field.

NonononoNO!

I won. I am Most Winful, Most Winful Indeed. My TEAMlings did not carry their Weight. It is they who are the Lossy ones, they who cannot aglomerate in the face of Transversity!

If my team was as winful as I, then I would have scored goals and been recognized by beautiful females for my Winful personage.

Blogger James Dixon July 12, 2016 10:10 AM  

I should point out that for one of the words (deal) there are actually two correct answers depending on whether they mean the verb or noun form.

Blogger Shimshon July 12, 2016 10:11 AM  

29625 Top 0.19%.

I feel like a special king. And now it's not secret anymore!

Blogger Anchorman July 12, 2016 10:14 AM  

#35.

Same score/reaction. I looked at "avulse" and said, "Huh. I have no idea what that means."

Blogger James Dixon July 12, 2016 10:17 AM  

I guess I should also point out that one of the reasons the regulars here score so well is that Vox's writing style is deliberately aimed at those with good vocabularies.

Blogger Steve n Mary Kendrick July 12, 2016 10:18 AM  

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Blogger Salt July 12, 2016 10:18 AM  

From the opening test screen - "Optimized for Mobile and fixed some typos - Jul 12, 2016"

That's encouraging.

Blogger JL Domingo July 12, 2016 10:19 AM  

Heh, my score is the same as Vox. One could not expect that after hearing me trying to speak English, of course.

Anonymous Elipe July 12, 2016 10:20 AM  

Thanks for the notes on improving my vocabulary, folks. That sounds about right, reading better, not necessarily more.

I really oughta read more of the classics. I'm embarrassed to say that I haven't even read Aquinas.

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Blogger Arthur Isaac July 12, 2016 10:24 AM  

30500. But can it help me overcome my Gamma tendencies?

Blogger James Dixon July 12, 2016 10:24 AM  

> Did the "avulse" question trip you up to?

Yeah. Obviously the same root as revulsion, but I've never encountered it before that I can remember.

Blogger Noah B July 12, 2016 10:25 AM  

Just hope you don't wear all that bling in public, Nate.

Anonymous JI July 12, 2016 10:29 AM  

I think we need more frequent reminders of Vox's superiority in intelligence, vocabulary, dialectic and general logical thinking abilities. Sometimes days will go by without such a reminder and those lapses need to stop.

Blogger John Cunningham July 12, 2016 10:31 AM  

VFM #424 here-- I got 30325. "Avulse" was unknown to me. I guessed and got it wrong. Oh the humanity! Oh the caninity! Would be interesting to see if Scalzi posts a score higher than Vox's.

Blogger John Cunningham July 12, 2016 10:32 AM  

VFM #424--Hey I think I coined "Caninity."

Blogger VD July 12, 2016 10:34 AM  

Sometimes days will go by without such a reminder and those lapses need to stop.

I do apologize and shall attempt to meliorate the situation in the future.

Blogger praetorian July 12, 2016 10:39 AM  

30325

Glorious word originating Master Race.

Blogger rumpole5 July 12, 2016 10:44 AM  

They rated me with Shakespeare! at 0.01 (Which to me simply means that the test just shows how much one reads) Unfortunately I know my real IQ limits!

Anonymous BGKB July 12, 2016 10:45 AM  

And if we average that out with your score on the punctuation test, you'll be at what, the 52nd percentile?

That's the problem with multiple choice tests. The black nurse who got on a plane with ebola symptoms was not faced with the question:

You recently treated an Ebola pt, now you have its symptoms and are about to get on a plane. Do you A. Call the CDC or DOH B. Get on Plane normally, C. Demand 1st class travel, D. Stay in the planes bathroom.

Blogger Arthur Isaac July 12, 2016 10:47 AM  

The hardest one (that I know about) for me was love/like. Always over thinking shit.

Avulse was from EMT. It's weird how we pick up vocabulary as we get further along. Knowing Latin and Greek roots helps tremendously.

There is much of our language that I never come into contact with. I just never wander through certain "neighborhoods". When I see a new word pop up in or near my own I still get a little excited to pick another one up.

Even though it tends to make me an even bigger freak with my co-workers.

Blogger Cail Corishev July 12, 2016 10:48 AM  

I should point out that for one of the words (deal) there are actually two correct answers depending on whether they mean the verb or noun form.

I thought the same thing. I went back to take it again to pick the other answer and see if it told me that was wrong, but it didn't. (Some people are saying they missed a certain one, but I didn't see any indication of misses.)

Anyway, the test was exactly the same the second time, with the answers even in the same order. So if you were only unsure about a couple, it'd be easy enough to take it a few times until you were perfect. I'm guessing Steve's 30500 is the top.

If it seems like we're all getting unusually high scores: well, the topics here attract voracious readers and smart people. Reading does expand your vocabulary, if you tend to read challenging works. If you don't think so, try teaching vocabulary to kids who only read when forced to. It's not just that they don't know the words you're teaching them, but they won't know the easier synonyms and antonyms that are supposed to help them, and they won't have much understanding of how words work and how you can figure them out from context.

Blogger Eric Henderson July 12, 2016 10:49 AM  

29,975 and I'm pretty sure, sans first cuppa joe, that I went one or two before realizing that antonyms were on the menu. And the only reason I knew "avulse" was I have some background in combat casualty care.

Blogger Arthur Isaac July 12, 2016 10:52 AM  

If you have actually used the term "avulse" and you are not in some type of traumatic medical field you should be beat with a used bed pan.

Blogger James Dixon July 12, 2016 10:53 AM  

On the subject of vocabulary tests, some of you all may prefer this one: http://testyourvocab.com/

Anonymous andon July 12, 2016 10:53 AM  

i think the site is bogus. they inflate the scores so people will refer it to their friends, drives more traffic. i scored only like 90th percentile on the old PSAT and reading comprehension was my weakpoint. there's no way in hell I'm now top 1/4th of 1 percent in working vocabulary - i haven't read a book in years

the site is a joke

Blogger VD July 12, 2016 10:53 AM  

If it seems like we're all getting unusually high scores: well, the topics here attract voracious readers and smart people.

Also, the smart click-bait quiz designer will bias the percentages higher. They should have dynamic scoring to compare to the other test takers, but I'm pretty sure they don't. It's probably just a static comparison to a percentage table.

Blogger The Other Robot July 12, 2016 10:53 AM  

OT, but I installed Brave and it is great. Blocks ads and is fast.

Blogger VD July 12, 2016 10:54 AM  

the site is a joke

The quiz is fine.

Blogger praetorian July 12, 2016 10:57 AM  

the site is a joke

Way way way way, hol up. So you be sayin... we shouldn't be basing our intellectual self-worth on a random click-bait site?

Anonymous p-dawg July 12, 2016 10:58 AM  

30,325. I am satisfied that this test is an accurate indicator of intelligence.

Blogger James Dixon July 12, 2016 10:59 AM  

> If you have actually used the term "avulse" and you are not in some type of traumatic medical field you should be beat with a used bed pan.

Oxford points out that it's also used in the legal field. Of course, that doesn't make your statement incorrect. :)

Blogger Shimshon July 12, 2016 11:00 AM  

I also thought the choices for "deal" were ambiguous, given its multiple meanings. I guess we're smarter than the quiz creator.

Anonymous MN Mama July 12, 2016 11:00 AM  

30500.

Blogger David The Good July 12, 2016 11:03 AM  

"So you be sayin... we shouldn't be basing our intellectual self-worth on a random click-bait site?"

No no NO! On the "which legendary figure are you?" quiz, I scored "Merlin: You are a wizards of great power, thou sometimes you're friends don't realize your greatness. Loyal, intelligent and ferocious in defens of what you beleive."

I am NOT giving that up.

Anonymous SugarPi July 12, 2016 11:05 AM  

Ok, not here to brag about my top 5% score in the midst of all you 1% folks...
but I will brag about my tendency to be teachable, which is my reason for mostly lurking on this blog.
I've lived by this motto: If I'm the smartest one at the table, then I find another table.

Blogger Wanda Sherratt July 12, 2016 11:06 AM  

Site looks OK to me. I took the French quiz and scored an 80, which puts me at about the level of a French senior highschool student, and that sounds about right. I tried the 2015 IQ test but got tired halfway through and gave up. Too much math.

Blogger Arthur Isaac July 12, 2016 11:07 AM  

With IQ testing, I'm not sure about which tests make what claim in +150 land, but they all break down. This quiz breaks down faster because of the number of questions versus the range that they are claiming to array people in. Each right answer equals 150 words or something. In order to better parse out the upper end 50 words in the "avulse" and more difficult category would give me a lot more confidence in their comparing me to Shakespeare. Clearly I'm not.

Blogger Alexander July 12, 2016 11:09 AM  

@110

You should aim for the top 3.14%

Blogger Arthur Isaac July 12, 2016 11:09 AM  

@James, thanks for that.

Anonymous andon July 12, 2016 11:09 AM  

@ #103 - then there must be something wrong with the sample of people taking the test so far.

Anonymous Spartacus xxxxx July 12, 2016 11:11 AM  

VD wrote:I once happened to beat two very good backgammon players, who played every day, in succession. It was the first and only time I played them. It was mostly luck; they are both much better at the game than me. I promptly retired and drove them crazy for years afterwards by pointing out that I was undefeated against them.

Of course, I don't give a damn about backgammon, which was the main reason I hadn't been playing it with them in the first place. Irritating them was just a bonus.



I got a story like that. My 'friend' likes to gamble (mostly blackjack). After a lunch convo where I'm pointing out the various evils of gambling and that the .gov lotto is a tax on stupid, he gives me 25 cents for the pull tab dispenser over my objections, saying 'come on just give a try'. He'd already spent some amount on it. So to humor him I finally said 'ok, now watch it disappear', stuck the quarter in and turned the handle (it was like a gumball machine) on the machine he'd already spent on. $50.00 Winner. Now he wants half ($25) but I wouldn't give it up. He flew into a rage and I couldn't stop laughing. Worked him over for years on that one. Was that poor gambler etiquette on my part? I don't care.

Anonymous Cadwallander J July 12, 2016 11:15 AM  

30150, but that doesn't count all the Ebonics and Spanglish I've picked up on the job.

Blogger praetorian July 12, 2016 11:15 AM  

then there must be something wrong with the sample of people taking the test so far

Glorious word originating Master Race is Glorious.

Blogger Mr. Naron July 12, 2016 11:15 AM  

If you just listen to Tourniquet and Iron Maiden, you'll get into .1% territory. I learned lots of medical terms listening to Tourniquet's 2nd and 3rd albums. (Psycho Surgery and Pathogenic Ocular Dissonance, respectively).

Anonymous NorthernHamlet July 12, 2016 11:18 AM  

VD,

Top 4% here.

What's your best for number of coffees in a single day?

Blogger Doom July 12, 2016 11:24 AM  

Why not just laugh? Not that I always see when I have had my hass anded to me, stubborn more than anything. But when I do, it's killer funny. If a bit embarrassing. I just don't get the problem. And, yeah, I get it handed to me often enough. Stubborn, but ignorant and wrong too. Why worry. Of course, I'm not always wrong. Is that the problem with gammas? I think if your life is based on refuting reality, the truth will always sting. And everything you believe is untrue, then... you really can't ever win. Yikes.

Still... kick em' when their up, kick em' when their down... dirty little secrets, dirty little lies... everybody loves dirty laundry.

Blogger Arthur Isaac July 12, 2016 11:24 AM  

A thing that kind of shocked me was that the haven't gotten traction with an algorithm and decoded Linear A. I guess non-phonetic elements and the burning of the library at Alexandria set us back, but it makes me kinda happy that computers aren't THAT smart yet.

Blogger Rabbi B July 12, 2016 11:25 AM  

(((29800)))

Blogger Noah B July 12, 2016 11:26 AM  

"They should have dynamic scoring to compare to the other test takers, but I'm pretty sure they don't."

This wouldn't be reliable on a test where it's easy to cheat though.

Anonymous Eduardo July 12, 2016 11:26 AM  

16.200

At the testyourvocab site.

Even worst lol hehehe even worst. Man maybe it is time to start reading dictionaries again, was a pass time of mine when I was learning english.

Btw... How many of you fall between 95-105 IQ range? I am starting to think the floor around here 120.

I was suprised that Brazil's average is 85-95 in many IQ maps...

Blogger Caedryn Stonelaw July 12, 2016 11:27 AM  

29975, but I got a strange message at the end: "it says on your chart that you're fucked up. Ah, you talk like a fag, and your shit's all retarded. What I'd do, is just like... like... you know, like, you know what I mean, like..." I do... I do know what you mean, but English was never my strongest suit.

Anonymous andon July 12, 2016 11:29 AM  

99. Blogger James Dixon July 12, 2016 10:53 AM
On the subject of vocabulary tests, some of you all may prefer this one: http://testyourvocab.com/


yeah, i only got 23,700 here. not flattering but seems more likely

Blogger David The Good July 12, 2016 11:30 AM  

@Rabbi B

It was obviously biased against Yiddish-derived words, so it's not your fault.

Anonymous JN July 12, 2016 11:33 AM  

Got a 165 on the triangle IQ test. Can't speak for the rest of the the tests, but that one is definitely wrong. Way too high.

Blogger Caedryn Stonelaw July 12, 2016 11:38 AM  

Eduardo wrote:16.200



At the testyourvocab site.

Even worst lol hehehe even worst. Man maybe it is time to start reading dictionaries again, was a pass time of mine when I was learning english.

Btw... How many of you fall between 95-105 IQ range? I am starting to think the floor around here 120.

I was suprised that Brazil's average is 85-95 in many IQ maps...


I'd say 120 is a pretty decent estimate for the floor of the active commenters. Probably ~135 for the Ilk.

On Brasil, Remember that a lot of countries are lying when it comes to their statistics, since they won't test those not currently in school, which is a significant portion of many of their populations. No one is going out to the favelas to administer IQ tests.

Anonymous Sazerac July 12, 2016 11:39 AM  

The irony for poor gamma cameltoe is that he was the subject of the post but few people are talking about him because an online test is actually more interesting than he his.

Is this the intellectual version of the girl he was supplicating cancelling dinner so she can take care of more important issues such as washing her hair?

Top 0.11% which I don't trust as I'm generally a horrible speller.

Anonymous DC (#sqrt(-1)) July 12, 2016 11:44 AM  

30,325 -- so I'm in good company around here, it seems!

@126 Molyneaux had a guest on a week or two ago where the poor guy was all, "so like" and "and like" and "yeah, like"; consequently I only made it through only about 10 minutes of the conversation before I had to give up. Please, for the love of Gawd, people, learn some sort of conversational elision instead of a verbal fart "like, ya knowww"..."uhhhh"..."ummmm". /sperg rant off

Anonymous #8601 Jean Valjean July 12, 2016 11:46 AM  

I think egoism is a better antonym for Christianity than altruism.

Blogger Lazarus July 12, 2016 11:48 AM  

Gammas are like problem gamblers:

Problem gamblers typically believe, as they head out the door to the nearest casino, that their full and sincere intention is to win money. Little do they know they’re acting out an emotional attachment to the feeling of losing.

http://www.whywesuffer.com/problem-gamblers-are-addicted-to-losing/

Anonymous kfg July 12, 2016 11:55 AM  

29500; I need to brush up.

On the other hand the test was so brain dead easy that I took it nearly as fast I could click. I might have fucked up a couple due to that.

Yeah, that's the ticket.

Blogger Nick S July 12, 2016 11:56 AM  

29800. I'll take it, considering I'm still relearning how to spell subsequent to a stroke a few years ago. It was a very strange, but fascinating experience.

Blogger VD July 12, 2016 12:07 PM  

What's your best for number of coffees in a single day?

25. Don't try it at home. I was borderline psychotic.

Please, for the love of Gawd, people, learn some sort of conversational elision instead of a verbal fart "like, ya knowww"..."uhhhh"..."ummmm".

I'm going to go for a Italo-Japanese combo, switching between "allora", "boh", and "ano".

Anonymous Eduardo July 12, 2016 12:11 PM  

Listening to Sacred Spirit... Indian-feather songs meet a bit of electronic treatment. Awesome!!! Hey between you guys and me; Do you think Vox would make a good chanter? You know like around a fire singing those awesome songs under a stary night! Lets leave the indian attire out...

Jean

It is funny that during that test "apologist" had "physicist" as an antonym, hehehe seriously, ideology much.

Caedryn

Well that is true, but most of our youth is mostly uneducated, not just favela people, as a matter of fact favela people have better chances than certain groups in the Northeast. Even at university you can find people with severe problems being admitted, although most never make through it.

It is a common trick to force everybody to have kids in a useless school so the government can masquerade the Human Development Index and make it sound like we are doing better than we are. Every third world country does that really.

I was impressed that it was so low, most maps had 85 as the number, that is pretty low! The population isn't that bad, but however there are areas way more poorer and with way more less educated and intelligent people, since their numbers are higher, it is no surprise the average is so low. It was really shocking to see that we can't even reach 90 as a whole u_u'.

I find fantastic how 120 doesn't sound that incredible. Back when I was younger, for me 150+ should be almost impossible to understand because of the intelligence, but now it seems like even 210 is understandable. It is just funny that despite every single one here being considered nuts, everybody seems to be above average in intelligence. What should be Whatever's IQ average huh...?

Nick S

Fascinating? O_O?

Blogger Doug Cranmer July 12, 2016 12:16 PM  

I got exactly same number. Top 0.12%. But Vox is in the top 0.01%. We must bow.

Blogger Doug Cranmer July 12, 2016 12:18 PM  

It's the pronunciation that's key.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd July 12, 2016 12:21 PM  

On test your vocab, I scored 37,500. Some of the words I would recognize in context, but I wouldn't be comfortable using them in a sentence in the unlikely event that they popped into my head. This is an estimate of how many words I recognize, not how many I use.

This might be a reasonable estimate. On the verbal portion of the GRE I missed four questions, and was shocked to do so poorly. On the several practice tests, I never missed one question on the verbal part.

Blogger Doug Cranmer July 12, 2016 12:24 PM  

Ah. A mouth breather like me.

Blogger David The Good July 12, 2016 12:26 PM  

"It is funny that during that test "apologist" had "physicist" as an antonym"

No, it didn't.

Blogger CM July 12, 2016 12:28 PM  

Please, for the love of Gawd, people, learn some sort of conversational elision instead of a verbal fart "like, ya knowww"..."uhhhh"..."ummmm". /sperg rant off

I am not an auditory learner. Usually, you have to break through my internal thoughts before I even hear you, so the simplest conversation with a retail vendor makes me sound seriously disabled in the mental department.

It takes practice speaking to be good at conquering the speech fart. I don't get a lot where I am and I doubt most highly intelligent people get it in general.

Blogger Doug Cranmer July 12, 2016 12:28 PM  

I think that's key. And making a point of looking up and learning to correctly pronunciate words you're not familiar with on a regular basis. After a few times I find the words just stick for me.

Blogger Nick S July 12, 2016 12:31 PM  

Eduardo wrote:Nick S

Fascinating? O_O?


Yes. I know it sounds odd, but it was truly fascinating in a bizarre sort of way. In my mind, I knew how to spell, but that part of my brain that associated the symbols with the phonics was out of sync. I could still read, but when I tried to type anything, no matter how careful I thought I was being, when I went back and looked at what I had typed it was always pure gibberish. I would try and correct it, go back and look at it again and it was still pure gibberish. Extremely frustrating, but extremely interesting as well. Rerouting my neural net to compensate took quite a long time, but it's coming along...some would disagree.

Blogger Doug Cranmer July 12, 2016 12:31 PM  

John, do you even lift?

Blogger Doug Cranmer July 12, 2016 12:33 PM  

It's like getting good at anything. Natural ability will get you so far but it's still diligence and hard work that carries you.

Blogger Caedryn Stonelaw July 12, 2016 12:33 PM  

@132 True, though most people never learn any really effective communication skills in their life, they don't really cover it in curriculum anymore and learning outside of class appears to be dead. I currently direct and produce the musicals for my alma mater, and I swear I could spend a whole year teaching these high schoolers how to do things like: think your words out before you say them, square off when speaking to someone directly, get your hands out of your damned pockets, MAKE EYE CONTACT, enunciate your words.

Gammas, like all emotionally weak people, run into the problem of so afraid of losing that they never win. It comes out in the weirdest of tics, such as blatantly false claims of competency (expecting others won't call them on it) or in that case, verbal tics in a rush to make their point clear(believing clarity is the only reason people don't fully believe their words). Its that constant fear of inadequacy leading to being truly inadequate. We had a mantra in my competitive karate team that was effectively the polar opposite: "It's not about being the best, its about being better." I think Cernovich would call that an abundance mindset.

Anonymous LastRedoubt July 12, 2016 12:34 PM  




@98 Arthur Isaac

If you have actually used the term "avulse" and you are not in some type of traumatic medical field you should be beat with a used bed pan.


Heh.


@137 VD

> What's your best for number of coffees in a single day?

25. Don't try it at home. I was borderline psychotic.


I had something like 10-15 one 12-hour "day" depending on how you define a "cup" and was shaking/twitching. Never again.

Blogger Unknown July 12, 2016 12:37 PM  

29625
Not bad for a retired Naval box kicker.

Blogger Caedryn Stonelaw July 12, 2016 12:37 PM  

CM wrote: Please, for the love of Gawd, people, learn some sort of conversational elision instead of a verbal fart "like, ya knowww"..."uhhhh"..."ummmm". /sperg rant off

I am not an auditory learner. Usually, you have to break through my internal thoughts before I even hear you, so the simplest conversation with a retail vendor makes me sound seriously disabled in the mental department.

It takes practice speaking to be good at conquering the speech fart. I don't get a lot where I am and I doubt most highly intelligent people get it in general.


I used to force the kids in my program to give an answer 5 seconds after being asked a question. 5 seconds is way too long for most people to finish organizing their thoughts, but it emphasizes that you must organize them before you speak them. Try it sometime in a comfortable situation. The reason most of us nerds are comfortable typing our thoughts is because it affords us the opportunity to compile them. You just pare down the time to respond as you get more comfortable with it.

Blogger D. G. D. Davidson July 12, 2016 12:45 PM  

I got a 30325 on the vocab test, so I guess I beat the Dark Lord.

Not sure what this vocab test really shows. Most of the words presented were ones that would not give me pause if I read them in a document, but that's not the same as saying that they're in my working vocabulary. If you placed them in front of me, by themselves, and asked me to define them, I would have probably given a passable definition of most, but for many, I would have had a bad time.

And doesn't any test for ability give a bell curve if you test enough people? I think the critics of I.Q. are not questioning whether the statistical distribution exists, but what I.Q. tests are really testing.

Blogger Doug Cranmer July 12, 2016 12:46 PM  

Yeah. Eff that. It says I'm Shakespeare fer effs sake. I'm sticking with that.

Blogger Doug Cranmer July 12, 2016 12:47 PM  

2.71%

Blogger Casher O'Neill July 12, 2016 12:48 PM  

It seems then that 30500 is the high score. Vox missed 2 or 3. I'm curious which. Probably avulse, since it's a technical term in a different profession that most found obscure, but what others?

@65 This (minus the element of whining) is why you aren't rich http://polymatharchives.blogspot.com/2015/01/the-inappropriately-excluded.html

Anonymous andon July 12, 2016 12:48 PM  

138. Anonymous Eduardo July 12, 2016 12:11

...It is a common trick to force everybody to have kids in a useless school so the government can masquerade the Human Development Index and make it sound like we are doing better than we are. Every third world country does that really.


sounds like the U.S. too

Anonymous Eduardo July 12, 2016 12:48 PM  

David The Good

Tests aren't always the same David.
There was no Christianity in my test for instance.
So assuming Jean is not lying or wrong about what he saw, there are probably different words to choose from every time you take it.

Nick S

I had a laugh here Nick. Must be hilarious to just know what you doing, and realize you don't really know what you are doing it is like and walkig talking comedy machine!!! You must feel retarded hehehehe despite knowing that the reasoning is fine! Kind of like dyslexia.

But it is good that it wasn't a forever thing, I mean it is fun when you make progress I suppose.

Blogger James Dixon July 12, 2016 12:51 PM  

> 25. Don't try it at home. I was borderline psychotic.

25x8=200 oz. Sounds about right, depending on the strength of the coffee. I used to routinely go through two two liter bottles of caffeinated drinks a day, not counting any tea I had. Yours would be a heavy day, but not impossible.

Blogger Edward Isaacs July 12, 2016 12:52 PM  

29975. I feel like I missed avulse. I was thinking a- volere so I went with timid.

Blogger szopen July 12, 2016 12:52 PM  

hehe... The worst result here, I guess, just top 6%. But - on the other hand - I guess this is not bad for a non-native speaker.

And speaking of gammas, I read about the vd's hierarchy and I think I am a gamma - except few things which does not fit. Girls always liked me for completely unknown reasons, especially when I didn't give a shit about them, and second, for all alphas I knew in real life, only one was indifferent to me. All others always tried to make me either theirs leutnants or destroy me. Except that, a lot of things fit. Hm. Interesting.

Blogger Casher O'Neill July 12, 2016 12:53 PM  

To be completely fair, it struck me that a couple of the questions could have had more than one answer as they weren't always proper synonyms.

Blogger Casher O'Neill July 12, 2016 12:58 PM  

@69 Are you a Turk? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3320606/How-honest-country-People-UK-likely-tell-truth-Chinese-deceitful.html

Blogger Doug Cranmer July 12, 2016 12:58 PM  

2.71%

Blogger Doug Cranmer July 12, 2016 12:58 PM  

Yeah. Eff that. It says I'm Shakespeare fer effs sake. I'm sticking with that.

Blogger Doug Cranmer July 12, 2016 12:58 PM  

It's like getting good at anything. Natural ability will get you so far but it's still diligence and hard work that carries you.

Blogger Doug Cranmer July 12, 2016 12:59 PM  

John, do you even lift?

Anonymous Camilla Cameo July 12, 2016 1:19 PM  

Same score as the Dark Lord! But I don't understand how the results are extrapolated.

I have seen it said that gammas act like women, but I don't think most women would keep coming back like this. After being humiliated, they would go off in a huff and try never to have anything to do with the one who humiliated them (block him in some way if possible) and write him off mentally as a horrible person. That's what I would have done back before I made efforts to act more rationally. (So now I'd shut up but still hang around and try to learn something.) I think the difference is because of the difference in the nature of male and female vanity. Female pride thinks that the removal of one's presence is a punishment to others while male pride wants to triumph publicly. With people of character and charisma, both these impulses work out well because with a woman with class, wit, charm and beauty, her presence is indeed desired in many settings; and the merits of an admirable man's drive to triumph shouldn't need to be told here. But to treat one's departure as a punishment when it's a blessing, or to refuse to accept defeat when it's undeniable, is pathetic, the latter of which we can see here.

Blogger David The Good July 12, 2016 1:21 PM  

@Eduardo

Okay - I retract. Wasn't in mine; may be partially randomized.

Anonymous CC July 12, 2016 1:29 PM  

30325, happy with that.

But I did always take the meaning words seriously, one thing that was always beside my bed growing up was a dictionary. Even now I'll look up obscure words I know, just to make sure I have the correct meaning in my head.

Avulse is medically separating a body part, didn't know that. About as gross as a body suppurating.

Anonymous kfg July 12, 2016 1:50 PM  

"What's your best for number of coffees in a single day?"

Actually measured, made by me (strong enough to defend itself), 36.

24 is not uncommon. I'm trying to cut down to 12-16.

I have to have a cup before I go to bed, so withdrawl doesn't wake me up.

Blogger SirHamster July 12, 2016 1:54 PM  

James Dixon wrote:On the subject of vocabulary tests, some of you all may prefer this one: http://testyourvocab.com/

24K on testyourvocab, versus 29K with VD's test.

I'm good at test-taking and usually do pretty well at guessing in multiple choice questions.

The testyourvocab test asks that you have an actual definition of the word, so having a rough sense of the word's meaning wasn't enough to blunder my way through.

Anonymous szIlk July 12, 2016 1:56 PM  

Ok, I'll play....

Result: 29625

Blogger VD July 12, 2016 2:01 PM  


24K on testyourvocab, versus 29K with VD's test.


Strange, I did the opposite. 40k vs 31k. Usually I do better on multiple choice. I was also strict on the words. There were a few I think I would have been gotten in a multiple choice, but I could not define.

Blogger Alexander July 12, 2016 2:02 PM  

So here's a mental exercise: Call it the verbal midwit test.

Go back and retake the test, and aim to score as close to median as possible.

It's useful to know what your natural bias is.

Blogger APL July 12, 2016 2:07 PM  

29,275
I cheated, as with al multiple choice type quizzes, it's as much discounting the ridiculous answers, as choosing the correct answer.

Blogger Alexander July 12, 2016 2:10 PM  

Taking it properly, I got 29,500.

Taking my own revised test, I got a 49.6

Aiming for the median was more challenging than taking the test straight.

Anonymous Camilla Cameo July 12, 2016 2:16 PM  

Addendum: a women would probably keep coming back like this if she had a thing for Vox.

Anonymous WaterBoy July 12, 2016 2:22 PM  

James Dixon @79: "I guess I should also point out that one of the reasons the regulars here score so well is that Vox's writing style is deliberately aimed at those with good vocabularies."

I'd put good money on there being more than a few childhood spelling bee winners in the bunch, too.

Steve @30: "funnyability"

I thought over there it was called "humouououour".

Blogger GFR July 12, 2016 2:23 PM  

30325

Blogger Ian McLeod July 12, 2016 2:24 PM  

30,500

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 12, 2016 2:24 PM  

30325 here. It was avulse that got me.

crispy wrote:30325. So why ain't I rich?
As Scott Adams warns us, intelligence has much less practical application than you'd think.

Casher O'Neill wrote:This (minus the element of whining) is why you aren't rich http://polymatharchives.blogspot.com/2015/01/the-inappropriately-excluded.html
Bullshit. Money making is based on many factors, most of them social and behavioral. That clown is a Gamma whining that the world doesn't understand his greatness.

VD wrote:What's your best for number of coffees in a single day?

25. Don't try it at home. I was borderline psychotic.

18 here. Black, no sugar.
I was okay, but I drove 20 miles past my freeway exit on the way home.

Blogger SirHamster July 12, 2016 2:28 PM  

VD wrote:

24K on testyourvocab, versus 29K with VD's test.

-------------------
Strange, I did the opposite. 40k vs 31k. Usually I do better on multiple choice. I was also strict on the words. There were a few I think I would have been gotten in a multiple choice, but I could not define.



If Steve got the max at 30.5K, then the first test can't even measure that high if your real ability is in the 40K range. Filling all the boxes in the testyourvocab test gets a 45K max score. (20 word min score)

You're clipping the first test's measurement. If we use percentages, you got 90~% testyourvocab, 99~% multiple choice.

Blogger Positive Dennis July 12, 2016 2:31 PM  

Yeah me too.

Blogger Positive Dennis July 12, 2016 2:32 PM  

Actually based on the spelling of the elements nearby on the periodic table, I would say the British are correct.

Anonymous Longtime Lurker July 12, 2016 2:33 PM  

30325. Too easy.

OpenID nightskyradio.com July 12, 2016 2:39 PM  

30325

I was avulsed to discover this was nothing special.

Anonymous kfg July 12, 2016 2:40 PM  

"It's not so much reading more, as reading better stuff, and not skipping words you don't understand . . ."

Read Eco until you can get through it all without needing references.

Blogger SirHamster July 12, 2016 2:41 PM  

Breakdown of testyourvocab test results here.

40K is above the 90th percentile across the board for native speakers, while my 24K is below average for my age. Time to read more CH and stop skipping over the words I don't know.

OpenID gnossoss July 12, 2016 2:42 PM  

Got the perfect score after looking up "avulse" first. I thought it was a little cheap that usually only one or two words were the same part of speech as the word they were asking about. That allowed me to guess a few since only one word matched and was possible. It would be a better test if they had all the words in the same part of speech so you couldn't guess it that way. Then again they had to fix typos in a test that was specifically about words, so that tells you something.

Anonymous Migrant from AmRen July 12, 2016 2:48 PM  

I am not sure about this test. I got 30325 and while my vocabulary is good I do not think it is outstanding or that I am a genius or anything. I mean the antonym of old is new? Is that challenging?

Blogger Benjamin Kraft July 12, 2016 2:50 PM  

29800 the first time at 0.16% but (I) realized right after answering vapid on one that it was asking for the synonym and not the antonym. I also rethought one other question and answered differently, all other answers were the same and there was only one question I was unsure about. Second result was 30150 and 0.01%. I suppose a test with only 50 questions can only be so accurate, especially when 20 or so are so easy that anyone who can speak English at even a fairly basic level ought to know them.

Either score was better than what my ACT scores would indicate, but then again, I did score the highest on the reading/grammar/comprehension portions rather than the science/math, which left me rather incredulous at the time.

Nice score though, them's some insane words in there :)

Blogger Avalanche July 12, 2016 2:50 PM  

Oh yay! 30325 -- I be Shakspeer!

Blogger synp July 12, 2016 2:51 PM  

James Dixon wrote:On the subject of vocabulary tests, some of you all may prefer this one: http://testyourvocab.com/">http://testyourvocab.com/
Oh, I like this one much better. It says I know 29.200 words

Anonymous andon July 12, 2016 2:53 PM  

i think my favorite twitterer visits this website:

https://twitter.com/Kurisu_Kitsune/status/752860001446666240

Anonymous The Avulsed July 12, 2016 3:03 PM  

Casher O'Neill wrote:It seems then that 30500 is the high score. Vox missed 2 or 3. I'm curious which. Probably avulse, since it's a technical term in a different profession that most found obscure, but what others?

This (minus the element of whining) is why you aren't rich http://polymatharchives.blogspot.com/2015/01/the-inappropriately-excluded.html



Yeah, avulse got me too. 29500. Since someone else scored higher than me there is obviously something wrong with this test.

Different topic- these days, all I have to do is think about something and it appears on the internet. I'd been searching for the article about The Excluded, featured on a Vox post maybe a year ago, and just thought about it again this morning in a different context. Anybody else noticing this acceleration of 'ideas in the air' or am I merely indistinguishable from crazy?

Blogger Aaron Swenson July 12, 2016 3:04 PM  

Hmm I got the 30150 also. I am a machinist, though, not a writer :)

Blogger szopen July 12, 2016 3:06 PM  

Heh - only 14.000 on testyourvocab. What a disaster, what a shame, what a blow to my ego... Especially since most of the words I missed were quite basic, like "loggerheads", "tang" or "tureen".

* "Most adult native test-takers range from 20,000–35,000 words"
* "Average native test-takers of age 8 already know 10,000 words" (Yikes! I am better than 8y/o native kid!)
* "The most common vocabulary size for foreign test-takers is 4,500 words" (but I am 3.25 times better than median foreign test-taker! But then, in case of foreigners i conjecture testyourvocab is used mostly by people learning the language).

Blogger szopen July 12, 2016 3:09 PM  

@196
all I have to do is think about something and it appears on the internet
It is called FTCWTM, or "fucking telepathe conspiracy with time machines". People are stealing your ideas and travel back in time.

Anonymous polyhedron July 12, 2016 3:12 PM  

30325. There's no way I have a better vocabulary than Vox.

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