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Thursday, August 04, 2016

10-step emergency plan



God help the West, because our governments certainly won't. The West is committing suicide through Tolerance, Equality, Progress, Inclusiveness, and Diversity.

Gun up and get ready. We're going to have to save the West ourselves.

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106 Comments:

Anonymous Takin' a Look August 04, 2016 11:06 AM  

(sighs) looking like it ain't it? Apparently two assassins were sent to Trump Tower. Not to kill him, but to get caught and released. One is a "dead" FBI agent. A show of power to Trump.

Anonymous Claymore August 04, 2016 11:07 AM  

Gun up and get ready. We're going to have to save the West ourselves. - No kidding! My krav maga dojo and cheaperthandirt love me right now.

Blogger The Observer August 04, 2016 11:18 AM  

@1 Do you have a source for this? Sounds interesting.

Blogger dc.sunsets August 04, 2016 11:19 AM  

Nothing, absolutely nothing will happen until the euphoric delusion that forms collective trust in the value of the Bond Ocean evaporates.

It's all the same thing.

When interest rates begin to rise in earnest (same as oil prices fell in earnest and the Narrative underpinning the high price of oil evaporated) signalling that the wealth "stored" in bonds (IOU's) is collapsing (just like oil reserves value evaporated), then will this antebellum period be demonstrably over.

Parabellum.

Blogger YIH August 04, 2016 11:25 AM  

Related: https://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2016/08/03/nothing-to-see-here-2/
With relevant 'toon.

Anonymous Zek August 04, 2016 11:29 AM  

The movie Brazil has become reality. Soon there will be ads like this:

Mellowfields: Top Security Holiday Camp. Luxury Without Suspicion. Relax in a Panic-Free Environment.

Blogger dc.sunsets August 04, 2016 11:29 AM  

The Can-do's (overwhelmingly white) have pasted on smiles and gone along with the Equals Temple cult in part because they thought they could afford it, so rich are they (perception-wise.)

Such tolerance won't last 2 seconds once that debt-fueled delusion implodes.

This time, when the LINK cards fail and cities start to burn, it won't be a Kerner Commission blaming the Can-do's. It will be the enraged, suddenly poor "Were doing's" demanding the National Guard use live ammo and crew-served weapons.

Phase change is coming.

Anonymous Takin' a Look August 04, 2016 11:31 AM  

@ the observer

http://getoffthebs.com/deceased-fbi-agent-found-trump-tower-silenced-pistol/

http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/breaking-news/index.ssf/2013/02/missteps_confusion_reigned_as.html

It's one source. Here is another that is bizarre

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/secret-service-armed-man-arrested-trump-tower-threat-41099912

A retired police officer who authorities said tried to breach a secured area outside New York's Trump Tower as Donald Trump was coming home was freed without bail Wednesday after he told a judge she can trust that he'll stay out of Trump's building.

"Anthony Shark, 54, charged with assaulting Secret Service agents, was carrying a gun legally and posed no threat to the Republican presidential nominee when Shark tried to enter the closed-off street at 10 p.m. Tuesday, authorities said."

Yeah, and I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

Blogger Alexander August 04, 2016 11:32 AM  

@7

Candos vs. Dindus from sea to shining sea!

Anonymous Credo in Unum Deum August 04, 2016 11:35 AM  

Jesus said "The gates of hell shall not prevail..." against His Church.

Jesus said jack-shit about Western Civilization.

Blogger HonorLiving August 04, 2016 11:41 AM  

Do we actually have a plan to turn ourselves into the modern day version of what the Jesuit used to be? Forget guns for a moment. The Muslims, the Jews, and various ethnicities, all of them are behaving in an ethnocentric fashion, either instinctively or because of their religious principles.

It seems to me that the first step toward the preservation of the West consist in the creation of a group with similar behavior. At this stage, group formation + ideology > guns.

Blogger Laguna Beach Fogey August 04, 2016 11:42 AM  

Let's roll.

Blogger frenchy August 04, 2016 11:43 AM  

And in the meantime, gun control is not relaxed, but more police and surveillance are offered as the solution.

Blogger BunE22 August 04, 2016 11:46 AM  

@Takin'a Look

"Interestingly the suspect who was found with a semi-automatic handgun fitted with a silencer has been identified as Barry Lee Bush, a former Newark NJ FBI agent who has been dead since 2007."

Maybe Yeb sent him.

Anonymous Antipas1 August 04, 2016 11:46 AM  

I agree Credo .

By turning away from Christ, in pursuit of no strings attached sex, the boomers & silent generations embraced birth control & abortion. They failed to produce the next generation.

They never would have been hoodwinked into open boarders without the birth dearth.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 04, 2016 11:48 AM  

Question for you VD:
How hard is it for an Italian citizen to get a gun, handgun or rifle, legally or illegally? I have some idea of how things are in Germany (difficult) and France (illegal). I assume as a foreigner, it's not really something you can do yourself.

Anonymous BGKB August 04, 2016 11:54 AM  

Mellowfields: Top Security Holiday Camp. Luxury Without Suspicion. Relax in a Panic-Free Environment surrounded by pig farms

"Anthony Shark, 54, charged with assaulting Secret Service agents, was carrying a gun legally and posed no threat to the Republican presidential nominee when Shark tried to enter the closed-off street at 10 p.m. Tuesday, authorities said."

A Glock with no serial number and a silencer can be carried I NYC legally now? If it has more than 7 rounds he was not. Since he was declared dead does he still vote democrat?

Blogger Whisker biscuit August 04, 2016 11:54 AM  

The list is missing the hashtag trend that follows terrorists attacks. Besides that, it's spot on!

Blogger Unknown August 04, 2016 11:55 AM  

Tolerance, Equality, Progress, Inclusiveness, and Diversity.

This spells out Tepid. Did you do that on purpose? lol.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 04, 2016 11:55 AM  

BGKB wrote:A Glock with no serial number and a silencer can be carried I NYC legally now? If it has more than 7 rounds he was not. Since he was declared dead does he still vote democrat?
Two different guys

Anonymous Spartacus xxxxx August 04, 2016 12:01 PM  

BunE22 wrote:"Interestingly the suspect who was found with a semi-automatic handgun fitted with a silencer has been identified as Barry Lee Bush, a former Newark NJ FBI agent who has been dead since 2007."

Maybe Yeb sent him.


Nah, the name is a coincidence. He's obviously a Clinton voter.

Anonymous stevev August 04, 2016 12:03 PM  

T.E.P.I.D. Heh.

Blogger haus frau August 04, 2016 12:06 PM  

I'm waiting for one of the aggrieved child rapist worshipers to attack a candle light vigil. Maybe that will spice up the approved emergency plan a bit. They do make a nice compact gathering of victims and such an attack would send an unmistakable political message that would be hard to miss for the average libtard, i.e. there is no safety anywhere anymore.

Blogger Robert Divinity August 04, 2016 12:06 PM  

Nah, the name is a coincidence. He's obviously a Clinton voter.

Jeb also is obviously a Clinton voter.

Anonymous BGKB August 04, 2016 12:08 PM  

This spells out Tepid. Did you do that on purpose? lol.

He could have done:

Diversity, Inclusiveness, Progress, Secularism, Hebephilia, Inclusiveness, Tolerance

Anonymous TS August 04, 2016 12:09 PM  

Government is slavery.

http://strike-the-root.com/government-is-not-civilization-it-is-slavery

http://www.notbeinggoverned.com/government-slavery/

Anonymous johnc August 04, 2016 12:11 PM  

Paul Manafort is torpedoing Trump's campaign.

Trump should have known better than to bring these Republican establishment types onto his staff.

Anonymous Spectral Elector from Necropolis August 04, 2016 12:13 PM  

Since he was declared dead does he still vote democrat?

Early and often. We all do.

Blogger Sevron August 04, 2016 12:19 PM  

Been in the process of gunning up for about two years, only oerson in my family to do so. Have a CHL now and do so when possible. What's the ideal load out for what's coming, in terms of weapons and calibres?

Blogger S. Misanthrope August 04, 2016 12:23 PM  

My significant other surprised me with a new rifle when I got home yesterday. Yeah, I married well. Bring it on.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 04, 2016 12:29 PM  

Sevron wrote:What's the ideal load out for what's coming, in terms of weapons and calibres?

At least 1000 rounds for each rifle, 500 for each handgun.

Speaking of which, anybody got a cheap stateside connection for .303 British? I'm having trouble finding it for less than $1/rd

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 04, 2016 12:30 PM  

Ohhhh,
you wanted to start a calibre argument.
.30-06 and .45ACP
Carry on...

Blogger Sevron August 04, 2016 12:34 PM  

I did not. I was hoping for recommendations along the lines of "1 pistol per capable person in house, 1 shotgun in 12 gauge," and so on. I don't have enough knowledge to really argue about calibre, so there's no argument from me.

OpenID basementhomebrewer August 04, 2016 12:35 PM  

Sevron wrote:Been in the process of gunning up for about two years, only oerson in my family to do so. Have a CHL now and do so when possible. What's the ideal load out for what's coming, in terms of weapons and calibres?

Other than the effectiveness arguments my suggestion if you are in the US is to get something that uses NATO or police rounds. These are going to be the calibers that you are likely to come across in times of shortage.

That being said that doesn't have to be your preferred weapon. Just have something as a backup in case you run out of ammo for your preferred. A cheap 12 gauge shotgun is always a good thing to have around.

Anonymous Clyde August 04, 2016 12:40 PM  

TEPID
Lukewarm
Neither hot nor cold...

Blogger tz August 04, 2016 12:46 PM  

@11 we're past that point. And are you going to find people to renounce the world and be that kind of missionary? Can we convert the FBI and BLM and IRS? The worst traitors are the Churchians in government.

When there are riots and the cities are burning, and people are starving like Venezuela, they won't be looking to the Churches - which wanted liberation theology and socialism. Read what the martyrs went through with the native Americans and Asia.

I've been a very strong advocate for evangelism and an awakening and revival - but that will be hard with this cycle (see "the 4th turning"). And the Baal of the state and its priests are able to provide bread and circuses for now. Elijah will only appear and defeat them (and read their fate) when the illusion is exposes. Elijah chilled for two years.

The death throes will be dangerous and it is big, but that portion will need guns to end, not the Gospel.

Once we have peace and the rule of law re-established, and the sheep realize there never was a free lunch, then it is time for responsible charity and evangelism.

While there has been no prophet or dream, it is scary how many Christians are being moved by the Spirit to move to a safer place, become self-sufficient, and arm themselves.

Blogger Servant of the Chief August 04, 2016 12:46 PM  

There really needs to be a site, if there isn't one already, that is easily accessible to Europeans that helps advise them on obtaining firearms legally in their various countries, or obtaining them from the country next door and taking them over the border (because God knows, lawful European citizens buying guns would be the ONE traffic they'd try to stop) some of us are just screwed otherwise.

Blogger dc.sunsets August 04, 2016 12:51 PM  

Ideal load out?

Ha, ha, ha, ha... Talk about matters of controversy. This is unlikely to be the blog with the most interesting opinions.

My uninformed view? Think Sarajevo.

Blogger Josh August 04, 2016 12:51 PM  

How hard is it for an Italian citizen to get a gun, handgun or rifle, legally or illegally?

I googled "gun laws in Italy."

Citizens are allowed to own:

up to three common firearms (usually handguns, but all firearms not using hunting calibers fall into this category, such as 10-gauge shotguns, or some .22 rimfire pistols and rifles);
up to six weapons that have been classified as manufactured for shooting sports by the National Proof House;
an unlimited number of hunting weapons (both rifles and shotguns);
up to eight antique or historical weapons (manufactured before 1890);
unlimited numbers of single shot muzzle loader replicas, for which no registration is needed;
unlimited numbers of airguns under 7.5 Joules of muzzle energy, specifically approved by the Ministry of Interior, which require no registration as well.
Ammunition is also regulated. While each licensed individual can keep 1500 rounds of hunting ammunition, only 200 rounds of handgun ammunition are allowed. A license to store additional 1500 rounds of pistol ammunition can be obtained, provided specific requirements are met. Ammunition purchases must also be registered.

Blogger Leo Little Book in Shenzhen August 04, 2016 12:52 PM  

What use are guns when the immigrants are advancing in infantry columns over open ground?

If you hit someone who says, "Violence never solved anything," do they stop saying that?

Blogger David The Good August 04, 2016 12:53 PM  

Yes!

...and grow or DIE!

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 04, 2016 12:59 PM  

@Josh
Wow, that's amazing for Europe. And of course, being Italy, nobody will actually pay much attention to the rules.

Blogger tz August 04, 2016 12:59 PM  

@11 To clarify, we already have an ideology and group - The core is Constitutional Christians which have the Traditional family structure and lots of guns and bullets.

Chuck Baldwin explains that Christians should all have an assault rifle like an AR-15 because that is what you use for defense, not hunting or street criminal protection. You can hope and pray you never use it beyond practice. But the more that have one, the less likely the use. See Switzerland.

Molon Labe! The gun protects property, liberty, and life, and ultimately your soul. At least until Angels and miracles again occur frequently to intervene. But you don't want to see what happens - read Revelation.

Blogger dc.sunsets August 04, 2016 1:00 PM  

I wonder how many guns will suddenly appear out of the woodwork (in Europe) when sentiment's phase change occurs.

We err when we think we know what's going on from reading one news feed or another. History is but the tiniest tip of the iceberg as relates to the actual experiences of actual people.

I let common sense & logic guide me more than the (often misleading) lessons described in history "stories."

We read of gun confiscation in Post-Katrina, but we know nothing of the who, what, where and when of those who were smart enough to observe the Three S's.

If you're smart, NOTHING you do will be remembered. Only the outcome matters.

Blogger dc.sunsets August 04, 2016 1:03 PM  

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Anonymous ZhukovG August 04, 2016 1:05 PM  

If it comes to insurgency, the scoped hunting rifle will be the weapon of choice, rather than the misnamed 'assault rifles'.

Blogger scottb August 04, 2016 1:07 PM  

Sequence should be
8 do nothing
9 wait for next attack,
10 repeat

Blogger HonorLiving August 04, 2016 1:08 PM  

@36 You're deluded. We're fine as long as there's at least one of "us" and your focus on guns and "the happening" is nothing more than a barbarian at the gate chant.

What are we waiting for, assembled in the forum?

The barbarians are due here today.


Why isn’t anything happening in the senate?
Why do the senators sit there without legislating?

Because the barbarians are coming today.
What laws can the senators make now?
Once the barbarians are here, they’ll do the legislating.


Why did our emperor get up so early,
and why is he sitting at the city’s main gate
on his throne, in state, wearing the crown?

Because the barbarians are coming today
and the emperor is waiting to receive their leader.
He has even prepared a scroll to give him,
replete with titles, with imposing names.


Why have our two consuls and praetors come out today
wearing their embroidered, their scarlet togas?
Why have they put on bracelets with so many amethysts,
and rings sparkling with magnificent emeralds?
Why are they carrying elegant canes
beautifully worked in silver and gold?

Because the barbarians are coming today
and things like that dazzle the barbarians.


Why don’t our distinguished orators come forward as usual
to make their speeches, say what they have to say?

Because the barbarians are coming today
and they’re bored by rhetoric and public speaking.


Why this sudden restlessness, this confusion?
(How serious people’s faces have become.)
Why are the streets and squares emptying so rapidly,
everyone going home so lost in thought?

Because night has fallen and the barbarians have not come.
And some who have just returned from the border say
there are no barbarians any longer.


And now, what’s going to happen to us without barbarians?
They were, those people, a kind of solution.


Blogger Timmy3 August 04, 2016 1:16 PM  

Now that Trump is self-destructing, I'm having a panic attack. There's no one else except for Pense.

Blogger dc.sunsets August 04, 2016 1:17 PM  

@ ZhukovG, disagree.

An AR with a scope & good trigger is equal to the bolt in long distance but also optimal in case of intermediate and even short range. Add a brass catcher and leave no evidence. Add a better caliber than 5.56 and get even more. Add a suppressor and reduce directionality of the report.

Distance = the Sarajevo example. Otherwise, getting caught visibly armed while in civilian clothes will likely result in summary execution.

Lots of variables, though. No one knows the future.

Blogger tz August 04, 2016 1:18 PM  

The EU won't get fixed until the women lose political power.
Most women hate any kind of weapons or violence and assume laws keep them safe. Not men willing to do violence on their behalf or getting a gun themselves.
A parallel to the organization that isn't specifically right will be converged, A nation that isn't armed at the citizen level will lose its other freedoms.

Blogger Thucydides August 04, 2016 1:24 PM  

"Saving the West by ourselves" is a bit of a non sequitur, since it is by throwing off collectivism and replacing it with individual actions that the West was created in the first place.

Time to roll up our sleeves.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 04, 2016 1:26 PM  

dc.sunsets wrote:I wonder how many guns will suddenly appear out of the woodwork (in Europe) when sentiment's phase change occurs.

I've read estimates of 20 million unregistered WWII-era rifles and handguns, in Germany alone. Seems many German soldiers simply took their service arms home. Given conditions at the time, that's a pretty reasonable move.
France is more problematic. The population was more-or-less disarmed in 1939, but there were a lot of Garands and K98s in France in 1944 and 45, some unknown number of which were stolen or recovered and hidden away. A lot a MAS and Mauser rifles came in during and especially after after the Algerian war, brought into France by both the Pieds-Noirs and the Algerian colonists. And, of course, the Muzzies are bringing in AKs to arm up their mosques. All military-pattern rifles are outlawed in France, and not able to be registered.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 04, 2016 1:30 PM  

HonorLiving wrote:And now, what’s going to happen to us without barbarians?

They were, those people, a kind of solution.


We are the barbarians we've been waiting for.

Anonymous paleopaleo August 04, 2016 1:31 PM  

If one of y'all was an author what would the well informed, fictional account be? Of the collapse I mean. How do you imagine your first killing of a fellow American citizen?
They have an SJW military, an army of corrupt, 'roided-out, asshole cops and most of the most wealthy.

Blogger Thucydides August 04, 2016 1:33 PM  

"Saving the West by ourselves" is a bit of a non sequitur, since it is by throwing off collectivism and replacing it with individual actions that the West was created in the first place.

Time to roll up our sleeves.

Blogger rycamor August 04, 2016 1:46 PM  

I'm increasingly suspicious that Tom Kratman's "Caliphate" is not a novel but a future documentary.

Are you a time traveler, Tom?

Anonymous Keep Smiling August 04, 2016 2:03 PM  

#49 seems to fit the professional troll template.

Anonymous VFM #7916 August 04, 2016 2:27 PM  

@50

Which one is less suspicious when your home is raided by counter-insurgentcy forces at 3 AM? Which one screams "I am an insurgent!"?

Anonymous BGKB August 04, 2016 2:36 PM  

While having an AK or AR for mid ranges, you will also want a long range bolt action rifle, maybe an extra that is cheap enough you are comfortable throwing it away after shooting someone important.

Which one is less suspicious when your home is raided by counter-insurgentcy forces at 3 AM?

Well if you own your home you can make hidden storage places in it that low IQ affirmative action govt workers wont find if you don't get to your guns in time.

Anonymous andon August 04, 2016 2:40 PM  

I like that cartoon - "ANOTHER RACIST!!!" lol

Blogger Were-Puppy August 04, 2016 2:48 PM  

Gun up and get ready. We're going to have to save the West ourselves.
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Just got back from storage diving and found my Px4 Storm, 2 mags for it, 500 9mm, an extra mag for a Ruger p95DC, and a big fat box of 400 rounds of 5.56 for my MP 85 :P

Anonymous Fnord Prefect August 04, 2016 2:52 PM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:Question for you VD:

How hard is it for an Italian citizen to get a gun, handgun or rifle, legally or illegally? I have some idea of how things are in Germany (difficult) and France (illegal). I assume as a foreigner, it's not really something you can do yourself.


France has a lot of hunting so shotguns are certainly legal. The problem in France isn't getting a gun (or any kind of weapon). The problem is that you have absolutely no right to use it, even in self-defence.

I have made something of a study and the results have been quite depressing (a couple of neighbours are retired policeman and we discuss it often)

First of all, there is no trespass law - once someone climbed onto our balcony. I contacted the police and they told me that if they didn't break anything or steal anything no crime was committed!

With regards to self-defence, as best I understand it you are allowed to do what the aggressor did to you and nothing more - if he punches you you can punch him back (with the same strength), if he stabs you you can stab back, ditto for shooting, virus bombs etc.... If you ever escalate it then you are immediately the wrongdoer and risk prison. It sounds ridiculous but that's how I understand it.

Even if you are attacked and act in legitimate self defence you are liable for any injuries (a friend worked as a bouncer. One night two more-ham-heads attacked him from behind. He one-punched one of them and he fell badly and ended up in a wheelchair, courts awarded the more-ham-head a few hundred thousand € is damage which my friend is supposed to pay)

Another guy in the navy told me (semi-seriously) have two of every kind of weapon, use whatever you need to take care of business then give the assailant the same weapon, give yourself the same injuries and swear blind that he did it to you first.

Of course, an armed criminal out to commit crimes isn't going to think twice about taking you out so as usual the laws only affect the law abiding.

Blogger Were-Puppy August 04, 2016 2:54 PM  

@8 Takin' a Look

that first guy reminds me of the Stargate dopplegangers - basically alternate reality versions of somebody.

There are some conspiracy theory out there about CIA clones or something I haven't been able to noodle through yet :P

Anonymous Headcannon August 04, 2016 2:59 PM  

The Secular Humanist Delusion

Blogger Were-Puppy August 04, 2016 3:02 PM  

@31 Snidely Whiplash

Speaking of which, anybody got a cheap stateside connection for .303 British? I'm having trouble finding it for less than $1/rd
---

I can take a look in Wallyworld later and see if they have it.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd August 04, 2016 3:03 PM  

Sevron wrote: What's the ideal load out for what's coming, in terms of weapons and calibres?

Have armed friends, buy the guns and calibers they buy. Failing that, find out what's most popular with hunters in your area, and buy that gun and caliber. Failing that, Snidely's advice is good enough.

Have at least one .22 rimfire rifle per household. Have one rifle or shotgun, and one pistol, per adult or responsible child. Have 1,000 to 10,000 rounds per centerfire weapon. After 10,000 rounds, the barrel will be shot out and worthless.

Anonymous EH August 04, 2016 3:03 PM  

@48 HonorLiving
Another apposite one by Cavafy:

"The Footsteps"

Eagles of coral
adorn the ebony bed
where Nero lies fast asleep—
callous, peaceful, happy,
in the prime of his body’s strength,
in the fine vigor of youth.

But in the alabaster hall that holds
the ancient shrine of the Aenobarbi
how restless the household gods—
they tremble, the little Lares,
and try to hide their insignificant bodies.
They’ve heard a terrible sound,
a deadly sound coming up the stairs,
iron footsteps that shake the staircase;
and now faint with fear, the miserable Lares
scramble to the back of the shrine,
shoving each other and stumbling,
one little god falling over another,
because they know what kind of sound that is,
know by now the footsteps of the Furies.

Blogger Were-Puppy August 04, 2016 3:04 PM  

@33 Sevron

Get a buddy and go to a range. You can rent various handguns there, and many you can also rent rifles, shotguns, etc.

Try out a few and find ones you like.

Anonymous andon August 04, 2016 3:07 PM  

amazon wouldn't ship an bb gun/air rifle to my city in California

im surprised walmart still carries ammo

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Blogger Jed Mask August 04, 2016 3:50 PM  

"God help the West, because our governments certainly won't."

God is ALWAYS willing to help the people if they TURN TO HIM FOR DIRECTION. People need to REPENT. People need to TURN TO JESUS CHRIST in PRAYER and ask Him for Counsel before initiating (spiritual) warfare.

"Gun up and get ready. We're going to have to save the West ourselves."

RATHER PRAY UP and GET READY TO HEAR HIS VOICE is how CHRISTIANS should respond. Remember for those who are brethren in Christ: the weapons of our warefare are NOT CARNAL (e.g. physical warefare tactics of weaponry) but SPIRITUAL (PRAYER, FASTING; SIGNS AND WONDERS DONE BY GOD through His Children) and His Sovereign power.

I'd also say and caution our Main Purpose should NOT be to merely "save Western Civilization" (as it could indeed be God's Will for Western Civilization to FALL. It happened to Rome. Eventually down the line, it must happen to Western Civilization. Either by nature or God's Judgment on SIN. Either way, Western Civilization *is* to FALL. Amen.), but to STAND FOR CHRIST and HIS WORD in all things. For whosoever seeketh to save his life (i.e. "Western Civilization") shall lose it (i.e. "Western Civilization") by whosover loseth his life for my sake (i.e. standing by the Gospel of Jesus Christ [KJV 1 Corinthians 15:1-4] and Principals of God's Word [King James Version Holy Bible (KJV)] in the world) shall SAVE IT (i.e "Western Civilization").

That's why I'm not "worried" about the coming eventual collapse of the United States of America and Western Civilization because my feet are PLANTED by the FOUNDATION OF GOD'S WORD that if obeyed and followed would restore society and as the byproduct effect restore a "healthy" and GOOD Western Civilization to live in.

That's why when there's ANY ATTACK on Christianity in this nation or any other nation; it's an ATTACK ON GOD in the society lost to SIN and REBELLION. That's why no "healthy nation" will survive without GOD'S INFLUENCE in the long term.

America (as a nation, though not the believers) has REJECTED GOD'S PRESENCE in society and thus is suffering it's FALL as a result.

What to "save" Western Civilization?

SAVE GOD in the form of Christianity's influence in that nation by PRINCIPALS of God ENFORCED(i.e "U.S. Constitution"). That means allowing Bibles brought back into the public schools and reversing and destroying all the Satanic advances done by the Enemy in yester years.

Yeah, that's the obvious but WITHOUT GOD IN THE PICTURE, no strong nation of significance will stand.
_________________-

Like the kind of "humor" you're saying this all by Mr. Vox; but just in case you are meaning the actual serious response that's needed to respond to the assaults of the Enemy... We need GOD, NOT our own "self-willed" efforts in the flesh. It's not His Way. It's a regretful FAILURE of lives lost, I'm telling you...

I don't truly perceive it to be God's Will for Christians to arm themselves up with guns and actually engage their enemies on the physical plane by shooting them dead. That's the world's response.

In the time of actual bloodshed, the Christian thing to do is to SACRIFICE ourselves to the end of witnessing the Gospel of Jesus Chrit (KJV 1 Corinthians 15:1-4) and the Word of God (King James Version Holy Bible [KJV]) to unsaved unbelievers to the point many of us may die as martyrs. It's foretold in Scripture; many believers end up having died for the Testimony of Jesus.

So yeah, not liking the "gun-toting" idea on strictly *GOD TERMS*. Other than that, hand me over that 12-gauge. lol. Amen!

~ Sincerely,

Bro. Jed

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 04, 2016 4:07 PM  

Jed Mask wrote:~ Sincerely,

Bro. Jed


Yeah, Brother Jed, we know about Pacifism. Thing is, nobody here buys it.
God, to paraphrase the saying, defends those who defend themselves. And while Western Civilization not necessary for salvation, it is our thing, the legacy of our ancestors. We like it and want to keep it. So far, we've lost a lot of the infrastructure, and are starting to lose the structure.

Many here want more specifically to keep our American culture. Independence, freedom, those things. A slave can be saved, but I for one don't want to be a slave.

And we are justified to fight to keep what we have, to keep our families safe, and to preserve our rights and traditions, to freely live our convictions,a nd to pass our traditions on to our children.

A community has the same right to defend itself as an individual.

Blogger Were-Puppy August 04, 2016 4:26 PM  

@55 paleopaleo

If one of y'all was an author what would the well informed, fictional account be? Of the collapse I mean.
---

Caliphate - Tom Kratman

Maybe others, but that one I read a few months ago.

Blogger Were-Puppy August 04, 2016 4:31 PM  

@31 Snidely Whiplash

Speaking of which, anybody got a cheap stateside connection for .303 British? I'm having trouble finding it for less than $1/rd
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Took a quick trip to Walmart and they were either out or didn't have the .303.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 04, 2016 4:47 PM  

Were-Puppy wrote:Took a quick trip to Walmart and they were either out or didn't have the .303
Only seen it there oncet, twenny-odd yars ago.

Blogger tz August 04, 2016 4:52 PM  

@59 We and our guns won't be at home, but will leave some surprises if it comes to that.
Here, blue helmets make for target practice. The rest would probably just compare notes, find nothing suspicious. One float in the county fair parade was a (working but unloaded) gattling gun.

Blogger JimR August 04, 2016 5:00 PM  

@31
http://www.luckygunner.com/rifle/303-british-ammo has steel cased berden primed wolf for 280rds/$155

I don't know how well that will do in the normally loose lee enfield chamber, but I suspect it will do fine. It's not like you can reload cases from lee enfields for long anyway, they really do a number on the brass.

Anonymous andon August 04, 2016 5:02 PM  

~ Sincerely,

Bro. Jed


U PC BRO?

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 04, 2016 5:17 PM  

JimR wrote:I don't know how well that will do in the normally loose lee enfield chamber, but I suspect it will do fine. It's not like you can reload cases from lee enfields for long anyway, they really do a number on the brass.
Thanks for hooking a brother up
Don't care for burdan primed much, but it does store well, and is a damn sight better than the 20 rounds I'm currently down to.
And yeah, I just gave up entirely on reloading the .303. I was getting about 5% jams after a single time through the rifle. My buddy, who evidently has a slightly smaller chamber than mine, does okay, but he marks the rim on each reload and retires after 4 times through the gun.

Blogger JimR August 04, 2016 5:30 PM  

@80 no prob. I've had good results with luckygunner, and ammoman.com too.

If you anneal the cases, and neck size (instead of full length) and most importantly, only shoot the cases in the same chamber they were fire formed in, you can get about 80% of the life you would get in say, 308

Once I've shot through the remaining 2K or so of greek surplus I bought a decade or more ago, I'll probably retire the no4 and no1 enfields as safe queens, and limit them to a few rounds a year of commercial ammo at service rifle matches. Sad really, they are about my favourite bolt action battle rifle.

Still, there's an 1896 manufacture Krag I've had my eyes on....

Blogger Cecil Henry August 04, 2016 6:05 PM  

I call this poster:


The Virtue Signalling Emergency Plan

Anonymous Millenium August 04, 2016 6:08 PM  

@44: Its not guns that there will be a shortage of but ammo.

Blogger dienw August 04, 2016 6:24 PM  

@49. Timmy3
Now that Trump is self-destructing, I'm having a panic attack. There's no one else except for Pense.

Trump is not self-destructing; Manacort and Pence are ringers and the GOPelites are still set on destroying Trump; false rumors are being spread inside and out of the Trump campaign. You're either a troll or an idiot.

Blogger James Dixon August 04, 2016 7:37 PM  

> RATHER PRAY UP and GET READY TO HEAR HIS VOICE is how CHRISTIANS should respond.

I did. He said to get a gun.

Blogger VD August 04, 2016 7:43 PM  

I don't truly perceive it to be God's Will for Christians to arm themselves up with guns and actually engage their enemies on the physical plane by shooting them dead. That's the world's response.

You're full of shit and a false would-be prophet. You haven't sold your cloak and bought a sword.

Take your Churchian wormtongue elsewhere.

Anonymous andon August 04, 2016 8:07 PM  

@ #84 - Roger Stone vouches for Manafort. if you cant trust anyone you're prob not gonna win

Anonymous andon August 04, 2016 8:15 PM  

how do you like this?

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/08/04/hillary-plots-import-puerto-ricans-win-florida/

they think they can get away with anything

Anonymous PSA August 04, 2016 8:44 PM  

www.sgammo.com out of OK. Fast service, shipping cost listed with product and usually the lowest prices. Wolf @ 49 cents per round, Privi @ 68 cpr.

Blogger Elder Son August 04, 2016 8:55 PM  

@83

Stock up on what you can now. Bury/cache some.

Play it right, stay alive, and there will be no shortage of ammo stripping it from your adversaries. This is why I have harped in the past, and always, to keep your arms in NATO calibers 5.56/223 and 7.62/308. It doesn't hurt to have at least one AK also. Forget the "exotic" stuff unless you are going to ride it out sniping from your porch/backyard.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 04, 2016 9:10 PM  

Elder Son wrote:to keep your arms in NATO calibers 5.56/223 and 7.62/308.
Bullshit. If you get 30 rounds through your rifle in an urban defense situation, you've already exceeded your life expectancy. A couple hundred is plenty.
If it all goes to hell, if you're scavenging ammo, you can scavenge rifles as well.

During the ammo shortage, the only calibres that were freely available were .270 and 7mm Winchester.

Blogger Sevron August 04, 2016 9:51 PM  

What about getting a vest or plate carrier? Seems like a reasonable step to take when there aren't really hospitals anymore.

Blogger Tom Kratman August 04, 2016 10:03 PM  

Rycamor: No, but since time is nothing but a divinely mandated illusion, who knows how the Divinity may pass the word around.

Blogger Tom Kratman August 04, 2016 10:03 PM  

Rycamor: No, but since time is nothing but a divinely mandated illusion, who knows how the Divinity may pass the word around.

Anonymous paradox August 04, 2016 10:48 PM  

If you're stocking up on 556, and have a barrel with a 1 in 7 twisy, don't forget the 77 grain stuff. It's more expensive, but is more accurate, bucks the wind better, and hits harder. Save it for those 400 yard shots.

Anonymous TS August 05, 2016 12:02 AM  

"You're full of shit and a false would-be prophet. You haven't sold your cloak and bought a sword.

Take your Churchian wormtongue elsewhere."

Amen to that. Christians in earlier generations didn't think like that. They knew you had to tame the earth. Only Churchian globlist tools submit to evil.

Anonymous TS August 05, 2016 12:09 AM  

"God, to paraphrase the saying, defends those who defend themselves."

That's how they did it in the Old Testament. David was "a man after God's own heart" yet he killed many men with the sword. And the bible states we have a better covenant in the New Testament, that can't be if we can't even protect our families and by consequence extend Christianity to posterity.

Blogger Leo Little Book in Shenzhen August 05, 2016 12:36 AM  

I don't truly perceive it to be God's Will for Christians to arm themselves up with guns

Sour gunmetal, said the coal bereft of Hephaestus' blood.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 05, 2016 12:47 AM  

Frankly that demands a man NOT defend his family is sent from the devil himself. It is pure idol worship at its worst, sacrificing your wife and children to yourself on the altar of personal sanctity.

No man of the ancient world would have stood such a thing for an instant.

Blogger Leo Little Book in Shenzhen August 05, 2016 1:01 AM  

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Blogger Leo Little Book in Shenzhen August 05, 2016 1:02 AM  

The Christian who, face unmarked, teaches others to turn the other cheek, forgets that "obey the scribes and Pharisees" was spoken in the same timeframe.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 05, 2016 1:06 AM  

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Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 05, 2016 1:09 AM  

Trying yet again, this time with all the words and leaving the incorrect comment because I've evidently had too much beer to delete a comment correctly.

Frankly any religion that demands a man NOT defend his family is sent from the devil himself. It is pure idol worship at its worst, sacrificing your wife and children to yourself on the altar of personal sanctity.

No man of the ancient world would have stood such a thing for an instant.

Personally I blame the beer.

Blogger Elder Son August 05, 2016 1:28 AM  

@91 says: Bullshit to @90

It's your life, not mine. In as far as you have thought it out in your comment. So do with your life as you see fit, and as far as you have it all figured out. Good luck.

P.S. Scavenge those NATO's, when possible, whether you are in need or not.

If you get 30 rounds through your rifle in an urban defense situation, you've already exceeded your life expectancy. That is just frikkin funny. And sad.

A couple hundred is plenty. I wasn't talking about how much one should carry. But I carry 200 rounds magazined, and one battle pack. And I have thousands of square miles of desert all around me. So you can bet I have more than what I carry. And I will strip clean every chance I get regardless. Anyhow, party on.

Anonymous Mr. Rational August 05, 2016 2:21 AM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:Trying yet again, this time with all the words and leaving the incorrect comment because I've evidently had too much beer to delete a comment correctly.
Quoting a present-day bard:

"God is great,
Beer is good...
And people are crazy."

Especially that last.

Blogger Tom Kratman August 05, 2016 7:24 AM  

How fortunate for both us and Christianity, Jed, that God has not commanded us to listen to you, nor designated you as his vicar or avatar or interpreter.

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