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Friday, August 05, 2016

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The President of the Philippines demonstrates how small-scale, but intense action can lead to significant results.
Duterte's centerpiece anticrime drive, focused on an ambitious campaign promise to end the widespread drugs problem in six months, has left more than 400 drug suspects dead, many of them either in firefights with police or under suspect circumstances. More than 4,400 have been arrested, police said.

The unprecedented killings have scared more than half a million drug users and dealers who gave themselves up to police, officials said. An overwhelmed Duterte has said he was considering to set aside some areas in military camps nationwide to build rehabilitation centers for those who surrender.
We've already seen significant self-deportations take place in the USA response to fairly modest crackdowns on illegal employment. While people have questioned how 60 million immigrants could ever be deported, it should be obvious that tens of millions would self-deport with alacrity were the federal government to announce it was targeting them for arrest and would no longer respect their human rights.

If we assume that arrests are equivalent to deportations, that means 500,000 deportations would probably suffice, although it is unclear if the deportations alone would provide the sufficient motivation. One tends to suspect the drug users and dealers were more impressed by the anti-drug death squads.

Don't forget, this math works two ways. I tend to suspect that the anti-gun forces in the USA are counting on a similar equation.

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Blogger Teri August 05, 2016 3:34 PM  

It would scare me too. They have drug dealers showing up on the streets with their hands and feet tied and duct tape covering their heads. And the users are in overcrowded cages. they are allowing citizens to kill anyone they suspect of being a dealer.

I found the pictures shocking, but do not know enough about the situation there to know if it is justified. I sometimes think the Philipines would have been better off as a protectorate of the US.

Blogger Robert Divinity August 05, 2016 3:36 PM  

Don't forget, this math works two ways. I tend to suspect that the anti-gun forces in the USA are counting on a similar equation.

No doubt. Gun owners will be less intimidated than junkies, though. Additionally, the federal government is so inept that its intimidations can go south on them as happened at Waco, which kind of marked the end of media tagalongs on warrantless battering ram-type searches.

Blogger Jim Carroll August 05, 2016 3:37 PM  

Why not arrest a few thousand employers that hire illegals instead?

Blogger Ingot9455 August 05, 2016 3:37 PM  

Standard Broken Windows Policing paradigm: "Five percent serious honest real enforcement gets 95% results."

So Operation Wetback seriously enforced sanctions on about 500,000 illegal aliens and about 4,500,000 left of their own accord.

A similar version will have some more complications and some more fighting, but some time in Sheriff Arpaio's tent city prisons eating bologna sandwiches or opened-up FEMA camps should do nicely.

Anti-gun forces will have different difficulties. They can have serious but not honest enforcement.

Blogger Brian S August 05, 2016 3:38 PM  

pro-gun americans don't have any place to flee to

Blogger Ingot9455 August 05, 2016 3:39 PM  

@1 Tried it; didn't work out.

Look up Abu Sayyaf in the south of the Phillipines.

Blogger SamuraiJack August 05, 2016 3:43 PM  

Whoa that guy doesnt mess around. Does this mean we have to assist with another "democracy" rebuilding program? Or is he a "good" ally?

Blogger Anthony August 05, 2016 3:43 PM  

It can work both ways with gun confiscation. A few cops get killed trying to enforce unconstitutional laws will give the rest of them pause. Especially if a court refused to convict.

Anonymous BGKB August 05, 2016 3:45 PM  

The true power of the Pinochet helicopter. Even better if TRUMP offered to pardon anyone who killed an illegal alien drunk driver, drug dealer, or any illegal that has taken an American life.

Don't forget, this math works two ways. I tend to suspect that the anti-gun forces in the USA are counting on a similar equation.

All it would take would be 2 people in each state to be smarter & more effective than Chris Dorner and the entire federal government would be unable to do anything. The incompetent affirmative action Eye of Sauron can only look at one thing at a time.
http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2009/10/mathematics-of-liberty-one-hundred.html

Blogger clk August 05, 2016 3:48 PM  

JC says "Why not arrest a few thousand employers that hire illegals instead?"

That is the exact answer -- simply fine any company found hiring someone without proper paperwork ... $10,000 per occurrence and have the penalty grow to jail time. If we didn't employ them, they wouldn't come.. and if you didn't have them suppressing salaries, you might get some hiring into low wage jobs by some of the lower tier Americans (well I know that is wishful thinking .. but we can dream ..).



Blogger Robert Divinity August 05, 2016 3:48 PM  

pro-gun americans don't have any place to flee to

One-third to one-half of American households have guns. If even a tenth of that number resisted confiscation despite images of the dead recalcitrant owners broadcast via Luegenpresse, it would amount to an insurrection unlike any since the Civil War and likely a state of permanent warfare. I sometimes wonder if proponents even grasp the extensive police state that would be required, and the number of resistors and law enforcement officers who would be killed. The Civil War might even pale in the raw body count rather quickly.

Anonymous BGKB August 05, 2016 3:51 PM  

Guess what the requirements for a HillDog press conference are.
http://dailycaller.com/2016/08/05/no-whites-allowed-clinton-speaks-to-press-for-first-time-in-260-days/

Blogger Teri August 05, 2016 3:53 PM  

Here's the article I saw:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3710940/Harrowing-pictures-brutal-truth-Philippines-war-drugs-s-seen-300-killed-just-one-month-president-ordered-police-bars-ground.html

Blogger Robert Divinity August 05, 2016 3:53 PM  

It can work both ways with gun confiscation. A few cops get killed trying to enforce unconstitutional laws will give the rest of them pause. Especially if a court refused to convict.

There would be special courts likely instituted to make sure the right results attain. Our criminal justice system largely is in tatters now and the federal courts are mostly rubber stamps of the United States government.

I do agree the body count for law enforcement would be quite high, and might give pause to officers sent to die to seize granny's guns. Also, sanctuary states and cities would arise and while the feds wouldn't grant them the same latitude as their illegal alien counterparts, it would represent an existential threat to the central government.

Blogger clk August 05, 2016 3:54 PM  

Vd says "Don't forget, this math works two ways. I tend to suspect that the anti-gun forces in the USA are counting on a similar equation."

That's almost an opening to get a good gun thread going ... but I will resist.. resist.. resistance failing ... YES .. it the same damn math the government is using by restricting availability of 22LR ... cut of the gun culture at the source/starting point.... and then drive up the cost of guns and ammo so that more people cant afford them ....

Blogger Servant of the Chief August 05, 2016 3:54 PM  

Looks like the president of the Philippines realised pulling a Pinochet was an entirely viable and effective option, just looking at the results.

OpenID basementhomebrewer August 05, 2016 3:55 PM  

Anthony wrote:It can work both ways with gun confiscation. A few cops get killed trying to enforce unconstitutional laws will give the rest of them pause. Especially if a court refused to convict.


Our pro-gun movement is full of people who claim retaliation for a confiscation program but many of them will comply if the law got passed. The question is how effective the people who will fight would be. If they ran all out 4GW on the police and strike them when they are vulnerable it would work. If they decided to try and have a shootout with the swat teams when they show up it likely wouldn't.

Blogger Tino August 05, 2016 3:55 PM  

Anybody stupid enough to seize a gun in rural Pennsylvania would die in ambush while returning to home-base. Same goes for upstate New York. And in spades in the mid-West. And just for the record, most of us have obeyed our last gun law. We're done.

Anonymous patrick kelly August 05, 2016 4:04 PM  

re: "the anti-gun forces in the USA are counting on a similar equation."

The morale/moral aspect of such warfare would hopefully be different.

The mindset and motivation of armed insurrection against government and its police state is different than criminal enterprise. That alone does not ensure victory, but it is an important part of the equation

Anonymous DissidentRight August 05, 2016 4:06 PM  

@3 Why not arrest a few thousand employers that hire illegals instead?

That’s stupid. Making it harder to hire people is the last thing America needs. The goal is to get the illegals (and others) out, quickly. We achieve that by making them afraid. We do not achieve that by scaring every entrepreneur and small business owner.

Anonymous That Would Be Telling August 05, 2016 4:07 PM  

@15 clk:

it the same damn math the government is using by restricting availability of 22LR

As far as I know, this is not happening. The problem is that .22LR, that is, rimfire ammo, is extra dangerous to manufacture, requires unique equipment, and no manufacturer has decided that the spike in demand is sure to last long enough that they've ordered more. It's 3 billion rounds produced a year in the US, and no more, with, of course, plenty being imported as well.

Ammo companies in general have been very conservative about buying new capital equipment in the face of the 2007 and on shortage, it was a pretty big thing when Remington did (for centerfire ammo).

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus August 05, 2016 4:10 PM  

Our pro-gun movement is full of people who claim retaliation for a confiscation program but many of them will comply if the law got passed. The question is how effective the people who will fight would be. If they ran all out 4GW on the police and strike them when they are vulnerable it would work. If they decided to try and have a shootout with the swat teams when they show up it likely wouldn't.

Keep in mind, too, that active 4GW doesn't have to include *shooting* the police, either.

Blogger Student in Blue August 05, 2016 4:11 PM  

The morale/moral aspect of such warfare would hopefully be different.

Quite true. There's a difference in morale between someone who believes they are firmly in the right on something, and someone who knows at least subconsciously that drugs are illegal.

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus August 05, 2016 4:11 PM  

The morale/moral aspect of such warfare would hopefully be different.

Everyone hates drug dealers, even the pro-marijuana people who otherwise want legal pot - they're not going to shed a tear over some gangbanger selling crack who ends up floating down the Ohio River.

Only half the country, however, hates gun owners - and it's the half of the country that generally doesn't own guns themselves, and hence, cease to be relevant once things move from the ballot box to the ammo box.

Blogger Bob Loblaw August 05, 2016 4:13 PM  

That is the exact answer -- simply fine any company found hiring someone without proper paperwork ... $10,000 per occurrence and have the penalty grow to jail time.

The problem is all these illegals have fake documentation, so it wouldn't actually have much effect. We could certainly make it much harder to get by with fake documentation, but probably not without some sort of national biometric ID system. Seems like that might be replacing one problem with another, larger one.

Blogger U PC BRO? August 05, 2016 4:13 PM  

If you're willing to be ruthless, it's not difficult. Idi Amin gave the Indians 90 days to GTFO. No one decided to stick around and see what happened on day 91. Shockingly, the vast majority preferred to emigrate to the UK or Canada over returning to the motherland.

Anonymous patrick kelly August 05, 2016 4:14 PM  

"people who claim retaliation for a confiscation program but many of them will comply if the law got passed."

Some might comply now, retaliate later at a more opportune time and place of their choosing.

Blogger tz August 05, 2016 4:17 PM  

The anti-gun forces are right, except they will run out of officers attempting to seize long before they confiscate even 10% of the guns. It isn't pro-active yet but I think there is a reason they are circumspect about it. They can pick off a few annoying ranchers, but at some point they will have to kick the hornet's nest and won't like the result. They should hope Trump wins.

Blogger dc.sunsets August 05, 2016 4:18 PM  

Just as the NSA has all of Clinton's emails, the IRS knows every single illegal working in the USA where the employer is submitting data over a fraudulent SSN.

Cutting off 90% or more of employment would send almost all of them home, and the rest would go if remittances were interdicted.

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus August 05, 2016 4:19 PM  

They can pick off a few annoying ranchers, but at some point they will have to kick the hornet's nest and won't like the result.

The other alternative would just be to leave gun owners alone and respect the 2nd amendment like they're supposed to anywise. But we all are pretty sure that's not going to happen.

Blogger Brian S August 05, 2016 4:20 PM  

I would argue a long term 4GW is being waged on gun owners right now. It's a war of opinion and attrition. If confiscation is ever attempted and the anti-gun crowd keeps the microphone, making the resistance look evil when they're shooting at cops won't be that hard. My hope is that enough of those who are serving (and served) are oathkeepers, should that ever happen.

Anonymous Longtime Lurker August 05, 2016 4:23 PM  

@8: "It can work both ways with gun confiscation. A few cops get killed trying to enforce unconstitutional laws will give the rest of them pause. Especially if a court refused to convict."

Expect a growing number of states to enact legislation barring state law enforcement officials from assisting in any federal effort to confiscate guns en masse.

http://gunwars.news21.com/2014/eight-states-have-passed-laws-voiding-federal-firearms-regulations/

Anonymous Goodnight August 05, 2016 4:35 PM  

and if you didn't have them suppressing salaries, you might get some hiring into low wage jobs by some of the lower tier Americans.

I talked to a business owner a couple of years ago (commercial landscaping) who said that wages aren't the major problem. He said there are so many regulations like OSHA, EEOC, and Obamacare that it's impossible to make a profit if you actually follow them. He told me that a lot of his competitors used illegals because they would never file a government complaint and would let the boss use a cash clinic for injuries. This guy had his sons as employees but was planning to shut down and go back to wage slavery when they finished college rather than the alternative.

Anonymous Bz August 05, 2016 4:37 PM  

Guess what the requirements for a HillDog press conference are.

Khaleesi prepares to ascend the throne.

Blogger Robert Divinity August 05, 2016 4:37 PM  

If confiscation is ever attempted and the anti-gun crowd keeps the microphone, making the resistance look evil when they're shooting at cops won't be that hard.

I disagree as to the PR. Thirty to fifty percent of American homes contain some 320 million guns. While many would surrender their weapons including quite a few who claim otherwise, all would be pissed off about it. The people fighting back still could number in the millions and would have a deep and potentially paralyzing reservoir of support.

Luegenpresse in the Eighties and early Nineties featured camera crews who accompanied cops as they used battering rams to force their ways into homes. That basically ended when the Waco tagalong Luegenpresse broadcast to the world images of federal agents cut down and a subsequent mass murder of Seventh-day Adventists.

As to attrition, I do think that is happening to some degree, which indicates the State has considered the bad optics from a former era. Maybe I'm optimistic, but that would indicate there is some appreciation for the civil upheaval that would happen when guns were confiscated.

Anonymous jdgalt August 05, 2016 4:38 PM  

Somehow I doubt that a gun ban in the US (say, because Hillary appoints three new justices and gets Heller and MacDonald overturned, and then gets everything bigger than a .22 declared an "assault weapon") would cause a mass exodus of gun owners. After all, there aren't very many rich countries that are better than the US on gun rights.

More likely, the first dozen or so gun owners who have squads of police show up at their homes and confiscate their weapons will go on the Internet afterward and warn everybody else (and easily defeat censorship attempts by the likes of Facebook). Then at the very least, weapons will be hidden in places other than registered owners' homes; and maybe there will be a well justified civil war. On which at least some police and veterans take the side of the gun owners.

OpenID basementhomebrewer August 05, 2016 4:41 PM  

Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus wrote:Our pro-gun movement is full of people who claim retaliation for a confiscation program but many of them will comply if the law got passed. The question is how effective the people who will fight would be. If they ran all out 4GW on the police and strike them when they are vulnerable it would work. If they decided to try and have a shootout with the swat teams when they show up it likely wouldn't.

Keep in mind, too, that active 4GW doesn't have to include *shooting* the police, either.


True, All you have to do is make things continuously uncomfortable for them and there are many ways to do that other than direct action.

OpenID basementhomebrewer August 05, 2016 4:44 PM  

patrick kelly wrote:"people who claim retaliation for a confiscation program but many of them will comply if the law got passed."

Some might comply now, retaliate later at a more opportune time and place of their choosing.


Some will do so effectively others will do so rather ineffectively. There are many planning on relying on the courts to fix the issue. They will attempt that route, lose, and throw in the towel.

Blogger Brian S August 05, 2016 4:44 PM  

lost mine in a tragic boating accident

Blogger Dave August 05, 2016 4:44 PM  

People! The Canadian Drug Policy Coalition has spoken. Duterte has no other choice now but to stop the killings and legalize drugs. For Pete's sake, they're Canadian.

In statements from groups such as the Australian Drug Foundation and Canadian Drug Policy Coalition, they called on Duterte to stop the killings and ensure the protection and rights of people who use drugs.

How does crap like this find it's way into a Daily Mail article? Oh, something happened in the Philippines; let's see if the Canadian Drug Policy Coalition has issued a statement? Probably a couple of stoners in their parent's basement: "Hey man, it's not nice to kill drug users, eh?"

OpenID basementhomebrewer August 05, 2016 4:47 PM  

Brian S wrote:lost mine in a tragic boating accident

I think it goes without saying that we all have.

Blogger Doom August 05, 2016 4:48 PM  

L.L.,

Some states have already made that illegal. Actually, I believe some have made it illegal for federal officials to attempt confiscation. My sheriff, I do believe, would escort feds out of the state if they showed up and I held them off while calling them.

As to illegals, that is simple. Put a bounty on their heads, with amnesty (for the bounty hunters) for mistaken identities. Whatever force is required for compliance, but no more. Though, you know...

If you look like you could be illegal, best to keep your paperwork on you. No hable? Tough luck. THAT would clear a lot of things, not just South of the Borders, either. Area sweeps would be huge bucks. Apologies for a few, and release, if they hable and have or can get papers. Adios for the rest. Let their native countries figure the rest out. No choice on returns. Take em' or they get delivered by the Navy and Marines.

Yeah, if I had the capital, I'd put teams together. No sweat.

Anonymous Sam J. August 05, 2016 4:48 PM  

There's a simple answer to this. 1.Do as you say and not respect their rights. 2. Fine employers. 3. The big one. Deport them to the Congo. We could easily bribe some group in the Congo to take these people for a small "relocation" fee. You wouldn't have to deport more than a few plane loads full and they would flee the US as fast as possible. They want to migrate we'll help them.

Blogger Brian S August 05, 2016 4:48 PM  

basementhomebrewer wrote:Brian S wrote:lost mine in a tragic boating accident

I think it goes without saying that we all have.


my condolences!

OpenID basementhomebrewer August 05, 2016 4:49 PM  

How does crap like this find it's way into a Daily Mail article? Oh, something happened in the Philippines; let's see if the Canadian Drug Policy Coalition has issued a statement? Probably a couple of stoners in their parent's basement: "Hey man, it's not nice to kill drug users, eh?"


Your answer is in your question. The "journalist" probably used to get high with those guys in college.

Blogger VD August 05, 2016 4:51 PM  

lost mine in a tragic boating accident

You do realize that very clever plan isn't going to work, right?

Blogger Brian S August 05, 2016 4:51 PM  

getting a good chuckle out of the thought of states passing laws making it illegal to violate the constitution, while ignoring the hordes of illegal aliens

Blogger Dave August 05, 2016 4:55 PM  

Next they will outlaw boating; too many tragic accidents.

Anonymous Tad August 05, 2016 4:58 PM  

I think raising the specter of actions that will never happen is important.

It reminds us that the really hard work still needs to be done in solving problems rather than focusing on fantasy.

Gay Jews have always advocated solving problems, particularly when fantasy solutions are offered up.

Blogger James Dixon August 05, 2016 5:00 PM  

> Keep in mind, too, that active 4GW doesn't have to include *shooting* the police, either.

A simple marker on the door of their homes would probably be more than enough to convince most of them them that this was a very bad idea.

Blogger Noah B August 05, 2016 5:01 PM  

Here's the key difference: drug users and dealers in the Philippines believed they had the option of leading a normal life again at some point after acquiescing to their government. Quite a large number of American gun owners are well aware of the history of disarmament as a precursor to leftist genocide and realize that forming a genuine peace with those who want you dead is impossible.

Anonymous Bobby Farr August 05, 2016 5:02 PM  

If Trump loses, the 2nd Amendment will be dead. The border will be opened to ensure white men never have the numbers to disrupt the two party globalist agenda again, the Supreme Court will be packed with leftist foreigners, and the feds will pack on regulations until they achieve a ban in substance if not name. Ultimately, if leftists can't be defeated through elections, they will have to be resisted violently. They seek total power and aren't going to be restrained by principles.

Anonymous Tad August 05, 2016 5:03 PM  

"Don't forget, this math works two ways. I tend to suspect that the anti-gun forces in the USA are counting on a similar equation."

I don't think there is anything for us gun owners to worry about. If there is anti-gun legislation, it will ban the future sale of guns, and not be a matter of confiscation. As a gay Jew, I rely on guns as one means of self defense in the face of remaining deadly antipathy toward my type.

Blogger Brian S August 05, 2016 5:05 PM  

Tad wrote:As a gay Jew

are you a crossfit vegan as well?

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus August 05, 2016 5:09 PM  

As a gay Jew

Does that mean we have to start writing (((Tad)))?

Anonymous Tad August 05, 2016 5:10 PM  

"are you a crossfit vegan as well?"

Basketball, soccer, golf, carnivore, drinker.

Blogger Dave August 05, 2016 5:11 PM  

If Trump loses, the 2nd Amendment will be dead.

Mostest important election evah!

Anonymous Tad August 05, 2016 5:12 PM  

"Does that mean we have to start writing (((Tad)))?"

Why the extra key stokes? Is there another gay jew named tad commenting?

Anonymous WinstonWebb August 05, 2016 5:17 PM  

lost mine in a tragic boating accident

You do realize that very clever plan isn't going to work, right?


Which is why I only own 1 gun.
Well, on paper, anyway...

Blogger Ingot9455 August 05, 2016 5:18 PM  

Tad has always sounded like an echo.

Blogger Nick S August 05, 2016 5:31 PM  

When I decided to get legal, I was a little surprised to learn the law enforcement officers in my area are quite enthusiastic about getting the citizenry trained and armed. Just one of the many classes in my mostly rural and sparsely populated area, taught by off duty police officers, are processing 30 people per weekend through their CC classes and they are fully booked 3 months in advance. They tell me they have been operating at that pace for a couple years. We have a lot of Oath Keepers in uniforms around here...especially in the Sheriff's Department.

Anonymous andon August 05, 2016 5:37 PM  

I like this Duerte guy. wish we could try his program here

Blogger Brian S August 05, 2016 5:42 PM  

VD wrote:lost mine in a tragic boating accident

You do realize that very clever plan isn't going to work, right?


beats going rambo against a full swat team

Anonymous andon August 05, 2016 5:43 PM  

3. Blogger Jim Carroll August 05, 2016 3:37 PM
Why not arrest a few thousand employers that hire illegals instead?


of course this is the answer esp once a few of the larger ones like say Armour or Tyson etc go to jail. When word gets around nobody will hire an illegal and the problem is solved.

Blogger SS August 05, 2016 5:44 PM  

VD wrote:lost mine in a tragic boating accident

You do realize that very clever plan isn't going to work, right?


Quit ruining our fun grandpa

Blogger Unknown August 05, 2016 5:47 PM  

If things do get bad enough where bullets start to fly, if you shoot at the cops you are shooting at the wrong target. You need to be shooting at the press providing media cover for the JBTs, and at academia, which is where the ideology that favors gun control comes from, and at the local Assistant US Attorney(s) that will be in charge of sending out the JBT to perform enforcement actions.
You should know who all those people are in your own local areas. You should know where they live, and where they work. You should know where their children go to school, and where their spouse works. You should know your local radio infrastructure, so you can listen in if things get froggy.
In short, you should have a large ream of intel of your own local area. Confiscation will only last as long as there are politicians to order it, and there are far fewer politicians than there are sworn law enforcement, and they are far less resilient.
Understand that if it does go this route, those who are chosen first for the raids _will_ die in place. Such is the nature of the beast. However, those who are raided first must hold out long enough to get the word out, and enable the rest of us to start collecting our own individual list of 100 heads.

Blogger Ingot9455 August 05, 2016 5:47 PM  

Similarly, the cops aren't the ones that the three-percenters want to shoot in an anti-gun roundup. It's the people ordering the cops around.

Anonymous BGKB August 05, 2016 5:53 PM  

Keep in mind, too, that active 4GW doesn't have to include *shooting* the police, either.

Shooting legislators who voted for gun control would work better, but don't forget poison.

Some might comply now, retaliate later at a more opportune time and place of their choosing.

Turn in the rusty old mosin nagant, while the real weapons/ammo are in fake pipes/hidden safes/ under the garden

the IRS knows every single illegal working in the USA where the employer is submitting data over a fraudulent SSN

They would if they didn't have incompetent affirmative action govt workers.

Gay Jews have always advocated solving problems

He won't make Aliyah because Bibi wont let him have cheap arab rentboys.

Anonymous andon August 05, 2016 5:59 PM  

43. Anonymous Sam J. August 05, 2016 4:48 PM
There's a simple answer to this. 1.Do as you say and not respect their rights. 2. Fine employers. 3. The big one. Deport them to the Congo. We could easily bribe some group in the Congo to take these people for a small "relocation" fee. You wouldn't have to deport more than a few plane loads full and they would flee the US as fast as possible. They want to migrate we'll help them.



great idea

added bonus - diversity for the Congo

Blogger Doom August 05, 2016 6:11 PM  

Tad,

Don't give a shit. Just don't ever even look bushy-eyed at a boy or me. Seriously. As to the future, that is how they got rid of automatic firearms. And, yes, it was effective. Or as the Orientals say, Supplies! Pissing off a fag and Vox in one post. Almost a talent. Three? I certainly don't bury what I get. Definitely not in man-meat or elites. *wink*

Blogger Unknown August 05, 2016 6:14 PM  

@67 Exactly, the cops are not the enemy, they are just the tool. The real bad guy is the politician that sends them out, and the reporters and editors that give them cover.

Blogger Were-Puppy August 05, 2016 6:17 PM  

@24 Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Only half the country, however, hates gun owners - and it's the half of the country that generally doesn't own guns themselves, and hence, cease to be relevant once things move from the ballot box to the ammo box.
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And these same idiots will have to resort to "see something, say something", aka snitches. They'll learn real quick a snitch ends in a ditch.

Anonymous Mr. Rational August 05, 2016 6:31 PM  

clk wrote:simply fine any company found hiring someone without proper paperwork ... $10,000 per occurrence and have the penalty grow to jail time.
The problem is that employers are currently REQUIRED to accept fishy-looking eligibility documentation and cannot scrutinize obviously-foreign applicants more deeply without getting the EEOC on them like stink on shit.

The first thing we need to get rid of is the EEOC and its enabling legislation.  The second thing we do is make E-Verify mandatory as a PRE-HIRE screen.

Blogger LurkingPuppy August 05, 2016 6:34 PM  

Jim Carroll wrote:Why not arrest a few thousand employers that hire illegals instead?
The E-Verify program allows the Federal government to deprive U.S. citizens of the right to work by buggering their records, e.g. declaring them dead; in that case, it explicitly places the burden of proving that one is permitted to work in the U.S. on the victim of the record mishap. I'm pretty sure that's an intentional feature of the program.

Robert Divinity wrote:There would be special courts likely instituted to make sure the right results attain.
I wouldn't want to be related to one of the judges on the gun-grabber circuit court.

Also, sanctuary states and cities would arise and while the feds wouldn't grant them the same latitude as their illegal alien counterparts, it would represent an existential threat to the central government.
The Feds have nukes.

Goodnight wrote:He told me that a lot of his competitors used illegals because they would never file a government complaint and would let the boss use a cash clinic for injuries.
I.e. they're de facto slaves, as are H-1B workers. And the party that takes pride in having ended de jure slavery, by killing their fellow Americans, wants more of them.

Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus wrote:Keep in mind, too, that active 4GW doesn't have to include *shooting* the police, either.
Indeed. I seem to recall a past thread about caltrops on this blog.

Blogger LurkingPuppy August 05, 2016 6:35 PM  

And shut up, Fake Tad.

Blogger LurkingPuppy August 05, 2016 6:38 PM  

Were-Puppy wrote:And these same idiots will have to resort to "see something, say something", aka snitches. They'll learn real quick a snitch ends in a ditch.
No, a snitch will lead them into a ditch. Even Black Lives Matter managed to come up with that trick.

Anonymous Napoleon 12pdr August 05, 2016 6:39 PM  

@66 is right. Cops are pawns. Go for the political class and the Propaganda Press. Remember, Hitler may have has a regiment of SS guards, but Heydrich had only a driver.

Not that I think a gun ban is in the works nationally. Not with 40+ states being shall-issue. It's the other 10 I worry about.

Anonymous That Would Be Telling August 05, 2016 6:41 PM  

@46 VD:

lost mine in a tragic boating accident

You do realize that very clever plan isn't going to work, right?


This has been a cliche phrase in the US gun owning community for some time, I don't think anyone thinks it's going to work.

Now, if this limited bit of wit is the sum total of what a gun owner is thinking about such a thing, well, there's time to move their thinking along.

It's not very urgent now, since this vector of attack by our betters is one of the most resisted of all of them, and in the vast majority of states, not working in the least. Obama did just come up with an administrative way to screw a lot of small scale gun smiths, we'll see where that goes.

(Hillary? I don't think it's any more important to her than it ever was, it was just about the only thing she could find where she could get to the left of Sanders.)

Blogger dc.sunsets August 05, 2016 6:45 PM  

The system thrives on getting people lathered up about hot button issues no legislator has any real inclination to change.

Gun prohibition would demonstrably produce far more chaos than did the Volstead Act. It is obvious to anyone who has an IQ above room temp that no social legislation opposed by even sizeable minorities of citizens is remotely effective. Banning ditch weed is another example.

If I'm wrong and the clowns inside the Beltway have taken complete leave of whatever passes for senses among those Bozos, it will simply hasten the dissolution of the Union. Add it to a long list.

Anonymous KPP August 05, 2016 6:46 PM  

@71 Exactly, the cops are not the enemy, they are just the tool. The real bad guy is the politician that sends them out, and the reporters and editors that give them cover.

Sorry, the cops don't get a pass if they're putting tyranny into action. They can choose not to be a tool. That said, we shouldn't assume that all cops are automatically on the bad guys list, but once things get hot, I think it'll be easy to determine who is and who isn't.

Anonymous That Would Be Telling August 05, 2016 6:47 PM  

@74 LurkingPuppy:

Robert Divinity wrote:

Also, sanctuary states and cities would arise and while the feds wouldn't grant them the same latitude as their illegal alien counterparts, it would represent an existential threat to the central government.


The Feds have nukes.


And we have the trivial means to kill their Blue cities; best we all just not go down this path, yes?

Anonymous BGKB August 05, 2016 6:47 PM  

No, a snitch will lead them into a ditch. Even Black Lives Matter managed to come up with that trick

(((They))) will never suspect the snitch with the rainbow feather boa.

OT: It's actually possible to fire a black woman in academia http://www.thedailysheeple.com/college-professor-suspended-for-social-media-posts-blaming-jews-for-911_082016

Anonymous andon August 05, 2016 7:08 PM  

@ #82 - looks like jew privilege trumps all

Blogger John Williams August 05, 2016 7:16 PM  

VD wrote:lost mine in a tragic boating accident

You do realize that very clever plan isn't going to work, right?

Quit ruining our fun grandpa


4G Warefare has great potential for fun, if you have an imagination. Firefights with SWAT teams, not so much.

Blogger Rusty Fife August 05, 2016 7:20 PM  

John Williams wrote:VD wrote:lost mine in a tragic boating accident

You do realize that very clever plan isn't going to work, right?

Quit ruining our fun grandpa


4G Warefare has great potential for fun, if you have an imagination. Firefights with SWAT teams, not so much.


Yup. Stay focused on the moral aspect of the operation.

Anonymous FP August 05, 2016 7:23 PM  

Semi OT:

Gadsden flag is deemed racist by the EEOC:

http://www.mediaite.com/online/federal-agency-rules-wearing-dont-tread-on-me-flag-can-be-racial-harassment/

As for guns, the states and feds will go for an every increasing number of laws before they start going door to door. Though I expect the first place that they do that is NY or CT, as most people there didn't register their "assault weapons" when told to.

Anonymous Napoleon 12pdr August 05, 2016 7:24 PM  

Of course, I suspect every serious gun owner has at least one firearm off paper. Especially with 80% lowers out there. Not to mention all those Sten parts kits imported a decade ago.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan August 05, 2016 7:26 PM  

So Duerte is not a TruCon?

Anonymous FP August 05, 2016 7:27 PM  

"4G Warefare has great potential for fun, if you have an imagination. Firefights with SWAT teams, not so much."

It depends on where you live. 100 people resist, they're gonna need more than the swat teams of the local/state/feds in most cases. They went after one guy in southern Oregon a few years ago because he bought two guns after being escorted off his government job (union rep vs management gripe turns out). They put him on a warning list (that they say doesn't exist) and a couple days later had three police swat teams at his door demanding his surrender. He hadn't made any threats to anyone. They pulled in a swat team from 90 miles away before they went in and seized all of his guns, put him in a psych ward.

Blogger Robert Divinity August 05, 2016 7:29 PM  

@81

Much of the present governmental system is built on trust. That link illustrated why it is best not to rock that boat, even if you control nukes (which brings up the question of the Dakotas). The optimum way out for everyone is a rational discussion of post-constitutional America and how to allow the states to interact within it. Unfortunately, the communists always will use an iron fist although it won't serve them well in the present circumstances.

Anonymous A.B. Prosper August 05, 2016 7:44 PM  

The Feds will not use nukes on domestic soil for any reason. The USSR didn't and they were as bad, maybe worse than the current FUSA is.

Some parts of the military and the deep state would certainly kill or mass imprison actual Americans but the people that maintain and run the nukes have to be stable and skilled they would not glass a US city .


Artillery? maybe. Tanks? Yes. Nukes, germ warfare , probably not its become too democratized . Chemical weapons are out as well, the elite who used them won't be welcome anywhere

It will be conventional, asymmetric and brutal but people who push the "they have nukes,. you lose" are trolls


That said all of us would like to avoid an actual war and do note, division, separation or other less bloody options are still on the table

Greer's How it Could Happen is excellent fiction on a much less bloody narrative

http://thearchdruidreport.blogspot.com/2012/10/how-it-could-happen-part-one-hubris.html

Anonymous Sam the Man August 05, 2016 7:51 PM  

Not the type to resist here, not against those who feel that way but I would point out a few problems:

They wont ban every thing at once they will do it incrementally, like they did in New York:

a) 1989 New York city ban on Assault guns (44 % of state population)
B) assault gun ban in 1994, federal, affects entire state
b) assault gun ban goes down in 2004, but is replaced with a state one that grandfathers stuff owned pre 1994, no new sales
c) 2012, 20 years later when folks are used to it, new state ban that makes any AR type rifle and any mag over 10 rounds illegal. All must be turned in /gotten rid of.
d) Same time all transfers now must go through dealer.
e) ahead: pick next incremental step to ban, as now most items and who owns them is known. Maybe riot shotguns, or mags over 7 rounds. Who knows but it is coming, NYC already bans long arms with magazines over 5 rounds.

So in 25 years New York state went from pretty much any long arm was legal anywhere in the state, including NYC to the most restrictive code in the US.

No revolution, no protests, no politicians getting targeted, yes some have disobeyed (most) but their kids will not, in another 20 years these guns will be dumped in ponds and streams as their owners die/go to homes.

So too will the disarmament of the US go, if the liberals are smart. They will continue to make small changes ever more restrictive, each one of which is not enough to cause resistance. But he sum of them over 20 years will result in something like England and may make Canada's laws look good.

That assumes Hillary wins, which I still doubt.

Blogger Unknown August 05, 2016 7:54 PM  

@80
The point is that taking on the police is counter-productive, because the local politician/bureaucrat is much fewer in number, is a much softer target, their untimely demise will have a much larger impact, and they will demand police protection, which will draw cops off the street, and away from oppressing you and yours.

Blogger Phil Mann August 05, 2016 8:26 PM  

It depends on where you live. 100 people resist, they're gonna need more than the swat teams of the local/state/feds in most cases. They went after one guy in southern Oregon a few years ago...

Furthermore, it matters whether those 100 resist en masse, or one at a time. If you wait until they come for you, it's too late. If you're serious about resisting, the time to do so is when they come for your friend's/neighbor's guns, not yours.

Blogger Matt Hocking August 05, 2016 9:06 PM  

The problem with mass exodus.

Trump is going to pop any lingering house over Price. The removal of 60 million people is a huge hit to demand of housing, which will be good and bad.

But the media will promote it as bad.. but the good is young people will be able to afford housing, one of the big roadblocks to a higher birthrate for White people.

Blogger residentMoron August 05, 2016 9:15 PM  

OT, but the virtue signalling in
this article is a wonder to behold.

The "Journalist" is doing it, the Newspaper is doing it, the Outraged Offended are of course all doing it, the Irrelevant Studies professor is doing it, even the Accused is doing it.

And yet, the cartoon that started this idiot kerfuffle is simply brutally honest.

Ooops.

Anonymous andon August 05, 2016 9:15 PM  

but the good is young people will be able to afford housing, one of the big roadblocks to a higher birthrate for White people.

apartment rental companies prob love illegal immigration

Anonymous liljoe August 05, 2016 9:16 PM  

it's a moot point, however, since Trump's recent endorsement of Mr Rat Fink himself (and McCain for good measure) proves he's just playing the strings of the neocons, and not really intent on beating the Queen. No one is being deported.

Look at the bright side...a nuclear holocaust will provide most of us with a quick and painless death. With my luck, though, she won't go through with it and instead just proceed to target evil white males and slowly impoverish average Murricans.

Blogger Lazarus August 05, 2016 9:26 PM  

Unknown wrote:You need to be shooting at the press providing media cover for the JBTs, and at academia, which is where the ideology that favors gun control comes from,

And not the newsreaders, they just read copy. Go for administration figures. Editors, department heads, etc.

Blogger The Other Robot August 05, 2016 9:35 PM  

There are other things that can be done.

1. Coordinated leaving of back packs on trains or in public buildings. Enter with a backpack inside a backpack and maybe Clock-boy's clock obviously poking out. They will have to take them seriously. 100 of those across the country every week or so would be interesting.

2. Get some Ammonium Nitrate (from garden supply places), grind it up, and smear it on car tires or other places and then phone in an anonymous tip.

3. Incinerate some cop cars (especially the chief's car.)

4. Any others?

Blogger James Dixon August 05, 2016 9:48 PM  

> Gadsden flag is deemed racist by the EEOC:

What if you add a rainbow to it?

Blogger Mountain Man August 05, 2016 9:49 PM  

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-05/lead-attorney-anti-clinton-dnc-fraud-case-mysteriously-found-dead

Not to deviate too off topic but seriously - WTF !

The corruption and evil on the part of the TPTB and this fat witch is so in your face its breathtaking in its audacity

Blogger The Other Robot August 05, 2016 9:49 PM  

Before any trolls start claiming that Trump has betrayed all of us by endorsing Ryan, I figure he knows what he is doing, and he is putting Ryan in his place.

Basically, waiting until the last moment is a case of Trump saying to Ryan: Listen cocksucker, I am the Alpha around here.

Blogger Mountain Man August 05, 2016 9:58 PM  

@103

His flipping the script was bold and brilliant in two ways:

1. It brought Yuuge exposure and media attention to Ryan's competitor - at a critical loin in the race.
2. As you make the point, it sent the oblique message that " yes Ryan you will be my bitch"

HIs endorsement is a classic case of an "endorsement/non endorsement.

Anonymous liljoe August 05, 2016 10:01 PM  

odd way of "putting Ryan in his place" by endorsing him and not his opponent, who supported Trump and his policy positions from the beginning. hard not to feel a sense of betrayal. really not a troll, I bought the hat and attended the rallies the whole nine. actually it feels like Trump is the one getting back into line.

Anonymous Satan's Hamster August 05, 2016 10:10 PM  

"But he sum of them over 20 years will result in something like England and may make Canada's laws look good."

In 20 years, you'll be able to make any gun you want on the 3D printer in your basement. Gun control in free countries is over: technology is making it impossible.

Which is one reason the left are working so hard to ensure there are no free countries. One thing they just cant stand is the thought of the people owning the means of production. How will they regulate and control us then?

Blogger Mountain Man August 05, 2016 10:11 PM  

@105
In the world of power: how something is done is as important as what is done.

Anonymous liljoe August 05, 2016 10:12 PM  

@104

no way Ryan becomes "Trump's bitch" if he gets re-elected. if anything the endorsement will have the opposite effect, and he will be a "thorn" for Trump should he miraculously defeat Queen Hilda

Anonymous andon August 05, 2016 10:18 PM  

liljoe, you cant win every battle.

Anonymous Bobby Farr August 05, 2016 10:24 PM  

If I wanted to spin the Ryan endorsement in a way that is flattering to Trump, I'd say he endorsed him so that leftist Dems will now bother to vote for Nehlen in the primary so they can feel they are screwing the GOP leadership and going against Trump.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY August 05, 2016 10:28 PM  

"You do realize that very clever plan isn't going to work, right?"
Sure we do, Vox. And a lot of us are not going to waste our breath saying it.
"Come and take'em " to paraphrase.
As a fellow redskin ( Tunica-Choctaw ), it will be a good day to die.
For them, that is.

Anonymous 11B August 05, 2016 10:30 PM  

Trump basically is calculating that his endorsement of Ryan and McCain will cause a significant amount of RINOs and cucks to support him, while at the same time not costing him any of his base. If that is how it works out, then he did a smart thing.

But, if the RINOs and cucks don't come over, and his base loses some enthusiams, then it will have been a mistake.

Time will tell. We need to see the reaction of the Red State type crowd. Personally, I don't think Trump will ever get those guys to support him. And if he lessens the support of his base, that's not good. I really hope Nehlen wins on Tuesday.

Anonymous andon August 05, 2016 10:34 PM  

BNO News says 13 dead in a bombing in France. not sure how good the source is:

http://bnonews.com/news/index.php/news/id5002

Anonymous liljoe August 05, 2016 10:50 PM  

@112 it was a mistake. Trump of all people should sense that the electorate wants to throw the bums out. the fact that Trump is considering how to win over the cucks is a sign something is terribly wrong with the current campaign leadership

speaking personally, as a base Trump supporter some enthusiasm was lost with those two endorsements.

I hope Nehlen wins as well

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY August 05, 2016 11:04 PM  

114.
I hope and pray Nehlen wins, I hope Wendy wins too.
And I damn sure want McLames and Ay-up 's oppononents beats their sorry asses. I wish Trump would have abstained, but he did what he did, and I have to get over it.
However, I'm gonna keep Trump's feet to the fire from here on out.

Blogger Bobo #117 August 05, 2016 11:10 PM  

"lost mine in a tragic boating accident"

Related, you do realize that it's waaaaaaay past the time when the address where you lay your head at night is the same as the address on your DL, taxes, and where your dog gets kilt and your toddler flash-banged.

This ain't Mayberry no mo'...

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY August 05, 2016 11:21 PM  

"liljoe, you cant win every battle."
No you can't. I agree, andon .
But we will win the war, that's what counts the most.

Blogger Robert Divinity August 05, 2016 11:25 PM  

My bottom line is border security. Trump goes past that, and I leave.

!Incidentally, vote against Ryan, vote against McCain. As if that needed noted.

Blogger Robert Divinity August 05, 2016 11:29 PM  

However, I'm gonna keep Trump's feet to the fire from here on out.

Wood, flaming.

Vote Nehlen.

Blogger Rusty Fife August 05, 2016 11:31 PM  

Wow, where did all these agent provocateurs come from?

Did the FBI let them off from having jihadis attack Pamela Geller?

https://theintercept.com/2016/08/04/fbi-had-undercover-agent-at-scene-of-draw-muhammad-shooting-in-garland/

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY August 05, 2016 11:38 PM  

"Vote Nehlen."
I would if I could , Robert.
I did send him some money to hep him, that 's all I could do.
Dammit, if you live up there vote for Nehlen and Wendy.

Anonymous Jack Amok August 05, 2016 11:41 PM  

I could swear I've read a sci-fi book about a rebellion that started when an empire that was losing support sent troops out to confiscate the guns of people it thought might be rebels, but the rebels had friends who learned about the operation and warned them.

Does anyone know the name of the book? I remember something about a church tower and lanterns, some guy riding his horse through the night, the imperials getting shot up on a hill somewhere... does any of that ring a bell?

(oh, yeah, and I remember a bell that ended up with a crack in it too)

Blogger Mountain Man August 05, 2016 11:46 PM  

Tad,
Shut the fuck up with the " If only you travelled just one mile in my jew shoes", schtick.
Its old, its tired and only makes people resent jews even more.

This is spoken from the mouth of ((someone)) with a lot of jewish blood coursing in his veins.

Blogger Thucydides August 06, 2016 12:25 AM  

Maybe it has come to the point that the Blue cities should be killed anyway. The vast reservoirs of the idle, the corrupt politicians, academics and the various "elites" who claim to rule over us could be drained of their poison and the remaining Americans can get on with their lives not even wildly disrupted. When you think about it, if a city isn't actually producing physical goods or services that you need rather than are mandated to have, then will you notice that it is gone?

It will also severely hit the criminal class (drug dealers etc., outside of the corrupt criminal political class) and has the effect of dealing with the illegals as well. Too bad it wasn't done last winter, to really decimate the Democrats electoral base.

Anonymous BGKB August 06, 2016 12:31 AM  

Gay meth dealing Mayors for HilLIARy http://freebeacon.com/politics/va-mayor-endorsed-clinton-busted-meth-for-sex/

http://conservative-headlines.com/2016/08/transgender-police-officer-drags-french-priest-out-of-his-church/

Anonymous Michael ph August 06, 2016 1:01 AM  

Hi, I live in the Philippines. I'm sorry to say that those "significant results" from Duterte's actions are something nobody wants.

Innocent people have been killed. And a lot of those people "surrendering" aren't even involved with drugs. They're just poor people -- literally poor -- who the police coerce into signing an affidavit admitting they are 'surrenderees' to pad the numbers and make it appear that progress is being made. I in fact know a lot of people this was done to.

So it's not a good state-of-affairs right now in the Philippines. People aren't being afforded due process. In fact there was this guy who was already handcuffed (hands in back) and being escorted by 5 cops who was killed; the "official story" was that he tried to grab a cop's gun. This sounds ridiculous considering the man had his hands on his back and 5 men were already escorting him.

Bottomline is that many innocent people are being killed in PH right now that it's really sad.

Anonymous Wyrd August 06, 2016 1:03 AM  

Michael ph sez, "How do you do, fellow alt-right kids?"

Anonymous Freddy August 06, 2016 3:08 AM  

Your contributions are always interesting.

Blogger Raziel Walker August 06, 2016 3:52 AM  

Isn't what Duterte is doing the reason for the second amendment? Police is killing anyone they don't like and calling them drug dealers.

Anonymous Shut up rabbit August 06, 2016 3:53 AM  

andon wrote:BNO News says 13 dead in a bombing in France. not sure how good the source is:

http://bnonews.com/news/index.php/news/id5002


msm are saying candles on a birthday cake were responsible - they are seriously taking the piss now. Prob'ly white supreemisist candles t'boot.

Blogger S. Thermite August 06, 2016 4:44 AM  

Was getting a haircut the other day and one of the younger barbers starting talking about how many city cops they have for customers and the crazy stories they tell. He generally supports the police but said he's been waiting for one to tell him he joined "to protect and serve". No luck so far- "it's just a job" is what he says he's been hearing. My job doesn't involve knocking on the doors of citizens to confiscate their legally-owned (and often very costly) semi-automatic weapons. But if it did, I wouldn't be alone in finding another living...emphasis on LIVING.

Blogger VD August 06, 2016 5:31 AM  

Go away now, Tad. Your self-absorbed, self-serving behavior is exactly why nobody wants (((you))) around.

Anonymous andon August 06, 2016 10:04 AM  

@ micheal ph - bullsht, prob 95% of them deserve it. the people know who the dealers are and plus since there are so many, why would police need to "pad the numbers"??

Anonymous Avalanch August 06, 2016 10:17 AM  

@22 "Keep in mind, too, that active 4GW doesn't have to include *shooting* the police, either."

Envision the police parking lots full of cars with shot-out tires! Envision the police dept buildings in mid-winter or high-summer with the windows broken -- or the HVAC rendered inoperable. What? The station computer network got hit by a virus?! How'd THAT happen?! And then the power went off?!

Illegal without removing the possibility that the individual cops can come to their patriotic senses; or at least 'sit this one out.'

(Lind's book stresses that 4GW and "legitimate" govt are inextricably entwined. Police confiscating guns are not legit. {shrug}

(I'm CERTAINLY not suggesting it! Merely describing it as something that could happen.)

Anonymous Avalanche August 06, 2016 10:34 AM  

@99 "Trump has betrayed all of us by endorsing Ryan, I figure he knows what he is doing, and he is putting Ryan in his place."

I'm figuring Trump the Negotiator negotiated sumthin' hella worth it!

Blogger Were-Puppy August 06, 2016 10:51 AM  


@82 FP
As for guns, the states and feds will go for an every increasing number of laws before they start going door to door.
---

I personally think the whole Fed will have crumbled into dust before they manage to pull something like this off.

They might happily try it in the F'd North East. Remember wasn't long ago they nabbed that one black woman who had the misfortune of being caught in NJ with a PA concealed carry. Stuck in jail for a bit over nothing except BS.

Blogger Were-Puppy August 06, 2016 10:58 AM  

@87 A.B. Prosper

The Feds will not use nukes on domestic soil for any reason.
---

I bet they would. Many of these clowns are Malthusian, remember?

Imagine they pick a red state mid sized city, nuke it, blame it on terrorists, and the cycle ramps up to a new stage, enriching the banksters and military industrial complex, as well as satisfying those who want to depopulate the world for their nefarious purposes. They could even do it to Detroit and blame it on some BLMs.

And I can't help but recall Caliphate where several US cities were nuked.

Anonymous Michael ph August 06, 2016 11:19 AM  

@Andon, Duterte gave the police the authority to kill people merely suspected of drug-dealing, promising them, in his own words, "pre-signed pardons."

So it's unlikely that 95% of who they kill will be people who "deserve it," given how corrupt they are -- the Philippines is one of the most corrupt countries in the world, afterall.

If you think Hillary is corrupt, you don't know the Philippines. Imagine that the son of the late Dictator Ferdinand Marcos is a congressman and was almost elected VP last elections. The Marcoses are a family that had massacred thousands of people and once had an estimated net worth of 30 Billion dollars. A coup-d'-etat took them out of power and they were exiled to Hawaii. They came back after a few years, used their money and went back into power. That's how easy it is in this hell-hole of a country when you have money, no matter how many people you've killed.

Anonymous BGKB August 06, 2016 2:54 PM  

Duterte gave the police the authority to kill people merely suspected of drug-dealing, promising them, in his own words, "pre-signed pardons."

Does he read this blog I have been suggesting TRUMP do the same for illegal alien drug dealers, MS-13 bangers & illegals that took a life.

red state mid sized city, nuke it, blame it on terrorists, and the cycle ramps up to a new stage, enriching the banksters and military industrial complex

If they did Chicago the states murder rate would go down to near Finland's.

Anonymous dsgntd_plyr August 07, 2016 8:37 AM  

the first scene of the pilot episode of the great netflix series "narcos," shows that chile, not colombia almost became the coke capital of the world.

but pinochet came to power and disappeared the drug dealers. one of who fled to colombia and help set-up pablo escobar's jungle based manufacturing system.

Blogger Harleyrose59 August 07, 2016 5:37 PM  

Pro-gun Americans don't 'flee'

Blogger Harleyrose59 August 07, 2016 5:42 PM  

We crunched a few numbers here in west Texas.
A six-stall horse trailer will hold about 200 illegals...if we stack 'em right!

Anonymous Carter August 08, 2016 6:01 PM  

It is an interesting hypothesis, that only 500,000 illegals would need to be deported before self deportation takes hold. It's a shame however, that even though Obama has been deporting about as many people every year as that (since 2012, the government has deported at least 400,000 people every year) and is currently on track to deport more people in his eight years in office than were deported by every president between 1890 and 2000.(Source: http://fusion.net/story/252637/obama-has-deported-more-immigrants-than-any-other-president-now-hes-running-up-the-score/)

Anonymous Mr. Rational August 09, 2016 12:23 AM  

Carter wrote:It's a shame however, that even though Obama has been deporting about as many people every year as that (since 2012, the government has deported at least 400,000 people every year) and is currently on track to deport more people in his eight years in office than were deported by every president between 1890 and 2000.
The Obama numbers are cooked, including people who used to be counted as "voluntary return in lieu of deportation" which vastly outnumbered the legally deported.  It is one more bit of the legacy of the most opaque, lying, treasonous administration in US history.

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