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Monday, August 22, 2016

An advantage, squandered

The West won the Cold War, and thanks to arrogance and a dedication to diversity, appears to already be losing the peace:
A report leaked to The Times newspaper says that the British army would be "vulnerable" in the battlefield against Russia and that Russian President Vladimir Putin would have a "significant capability edge" in state-on-state warfare.

The Times revealed the report, which was produced by the British army, on Wednesday. It warns that the UK and its NATO allies are "scrambling to catch up" with Russia, which enjoys significant advantages in pretty much every key aspect of warfare.

Specifically, the report explains how Russia's arsenal of weapons — which includes rocket launchers and advanced air-defence systems — are much more powerful than what Britain's military has at its disposal.

Even major developments Britain has planned will not match up to Russia's firepower. A planned £3.5 million ($4.6 million) fleet of lightly armoured vehicles will be "disproportionately vulnerable" to Russian rocket fire in a warfare scenario.

It is not just physical warfare in which Moscow has a clear edge, the report says. Russian intelligence has mastered the art of hacking and disturbing radar signals, meaning the effectiveness of British and NATO weaponry and aircraft operated using GPS navigation is under serious threat.
Of course, given the way in which Russia is now the defender of white Christians and the USA and the United Kingdom are the champions of secular diversity, these developments are considerably less worrisome than they would have been back in the 1980s.

It turns out that Sting was wrong. The Russians not only love their children too, they observably love their children, their heritage, and their nation considerably more than the English or the Americans do.

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Anonymous Amarnoth August 22, 2016 8:09 AM  

Vox, would you ever advise Russia as a destination for White Americans wishing to trade Diversity for Europe?

Anonymous Credo in Unum Deum August 22, 2016 8:11 AM  

"Wouldn't it be nice if we were friends with Russia?"

- Donald Trump

Why, in the name of hell, are we interested in fighting Russia? Leave them alone. Let Russia be Russian.

Fighting an actual war with Russian would be the final piece of evidence that America, and all of NATO are too stupid to exist.

When it looks like Russian troops are about to march through the smoldering ruins of Midtown Manhattan, I'll be first in line to call for the destruction of Russia, and bringing home super-hot young Russian women as slaves, but until then, let's learn from the mistakes of Napoleon and Hitler, and leave Russia alone.

Anonymous Fran August 22, 2016 8:17 AM  

@1..a question I would also ask but I think it might be naive.Not sure the Russian wouldn't be totally contemptible toward us. Like Californians moving to a red state.

Blogger VD August 22, 2016 8:20 AM  

Vox, would you ever advise Russia as a destination for White Americans wishing to trade Diversity for Europe?

Doubt it. They're very conscious of how the USA screwed them over in the immediate post-Soviet era.

Blogger Cataline Sergius August 22, 2016 8:21 AM  

The West won the Cold War, and thanks to arrogance and a dedication to diversity, appears to already be losing the peace

Not really a first for us. Look at Korea. We got rolled up repeatedly and just five years before we had had mightiest military in history.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother August 22, 2016 8:22 AM  

Cataline,

It's amazing what we're capable of when they allow us to win.

Anonymous Sazerac August 22, 2016 8:24 AM  

Let Russia play their role as the modern Byzantine state while our empire collapses.

But most importantly, this time let us stand side by side with them as brothers against the onslaught when we finally realise our errors.

Anonymous Crusader Corim August 22, 2016 8:25 AM  

No, Americans shouldn't flee to Russia. They shouldn't flee to anywhere. They should fight for their homeland. The concept of fleeing because things are tough is the exact thing that we despise. Why would we repeat it?

Anonymous Steve August 22, 2016 8:27 AM  

Yarp. We couldn't win a (non-nuclear) war with Russia, even with America doing the heavy lifting. In the 80's we might've stopped them in the Fulda Gap with the full cooperation of NATO, but these days the entire regular British Army could fit in Wembley Stadium with seats to spare. We've got hundreds of MBT's in mothballs, but precious few active soldiers trained to fight in tanks.

That planned £3.5 million ($4.6 million) fleet of lightly armoured vehicles will be "disproportionately vulnerable" to Russian rocket fire in a warfare scenario. probably refers to the £3.5 BILLION we're spending on light tanks (after spending over a decade and hundreds of millions of pounds pissing about with feasibility studies).

Those vehicles are for fighting the last wars, counterinsurgency struggles against lightly armed irregulars in Iraq and Afghanistan. They won't go toe to toe with Russian armour. Just not what they're designed for.

Furthermore, we no longer win at the moral level of war. The Soviet Union was obviously evil and had to be contained. Why are we supposed to hate Russia now - because they don't have gay marriage? Because of their border disputes with the Ukraine?

Blogger residentMoron August 22, 2016 8:27 AM  

Allegedly, Maharbal said to Hannibal:

"You, Hannibal, know how to gain a victory; you do not know how to use it."

Anonymous CC August 22, 2016 8:36 AM  

The English army is now the smallest its been in over a century; they've been cutting numbers and funding for years now, whereas almost all other public spending has increased. I anticipate this is all done to prepare the public for the EU army, including a propaganda push of which I'm sure this article is also part. In fact, I've become so sceptical of the news, I wouldn't be sure if I could believe anything this article reports, it just seems to be regurgitating a military press release which is probably only serving this agenda. "Europe/The EU needs to tackle Russia and other enemies together."

I remember when Putin first game to power I was very wary of him thinking he was going to mold Russia into his personal dictatorship, but he's shown himself to have a lot of substance. He very much seems to be opposed to the globalists. One of the more encouraging things about him was his friendship with Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn.

I encourage people (if they already haven't) to watch the short speech he made at a press conference with Western journalists recently where he admonishes them for lying and warns them about what's coming down the line if things don't change. Powerful stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leq7OyDa0Lc

Anonymous The OASF August 22, 2016 8:40 AM  

"When it looks like Russian troops are about to march through the smoldering ruins of Midtown Manhattan, I'll be first in line to call for the destruction of Russia..."

Ha! That will be one short line, Johnny...

Blogger Salt August 22, 2016 8:41 AM  

VD wrote:Doubt it. They're very conscious of how the USA screwed them over in the immediate post-Soviet era.

Fine. Tit for tat, and we still owe them some.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlpODYhnPEo

Blogger Cataline Sergius August 22, 2016 8:45 AM  

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Blogger Cataline Sergius August 22, 2016 8:47 AM  

It's amazing what we're capable of when they allow us to win.

Ain't it the truth?

In Korea we were getting over run by human wave tactics and the truth is those are pretty easy to beat.

The easiest way is maneuver but in Korea the terrain made that impossible.

Okay if you can't maneuver neither can they so plan B, is pound them into hamburger with arty.

Except we didn't have any artillery shells.

In 1942 manufacturers were happy enough to get a government contract. Although those turned out to be 5% profit and 95% percent headache.

By 1951, memories were fresh and nobody wanted a government contract if they could help it. The result no artillery shells once the war surplus ran out.

Truman is the most overrated president in the 20th century. Every problem he "solved" was one that he created in the first place.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan August 22, 2016 8:48 AM  

The British might be short changing their military but to America's benefit we picked up an ex pat and excellent light infantry instructor, Max Velocity of MVT

Anonymous Thales August 22, 2016 8:49 AM  

Truly Russia is the third Rome, guardian of Christendom.

Let us not f*ck with their sh*t, mkay...

Blogger APL August 22, 2016 8:52 AM  

Credo in Unum Deum: "Why, in the name of hell, are we interested in fighting Russia? Leave them alone. Let Russia be Russian."

Yes. I too wondered why the US attacked Gaddaffi ( granted I disliked the guy - he supported the IRA for one thing ) but once you realise the Clinton state department is riddled with the Moslem brotherhood, it all becomes clear, Both Gadaffi and Assad are secular albeit leftward leaning Arab leaders. The moslem brotherhood seeks to replace them with it's own. The US foreign policy ha been usurped and now serves the purposes of the Saudi's and MB.

Anonymous Bowman August 22, 2016 8:54 AM  

Very convenient "leaked report" that helps the UK army to get more credits ...

Blogger Shimshon August 22, 2016 8:56 AM  

The US certainly seems more interested in spreading military expenditures as widely as possible (eg the F35 production is distributed among 50 states and 435 Congressional districts, or something absurd like that) rather than using them wisely in developing effective next-generation weaponry. And then there's the SJW convergence, which I assume Russian forces don't suffer from.

Anonymous Be Not Afraid August 22, 2016 8:57 AM  

Squandering the goodwill of the Russian people after the fall of the USSR will go down as one of the greatest blunders in diplomacy (of which the US has mostly cornered the market, it seems). Even as a young'n back in the 1980's, it was obvious to me that the Russians were not so much "evil" as desperately terrified of another calamitous invasion. We had the chance to really partner with them in the 90's and totally blew it.

As for military tech: I'd hate to be in an F-35 going against the Su-35 and a bunch of SAMs. Might just punch out early and take the odds of surviving the ejection.

Anonymous genericviews August 22, 2016 8:58 AM  

Russia is not the Soviet Union. Other than our own corrupt government and , there is no reason at all to not see Russia as allies. We lost the victory of the cold war not by letting our military get weak. We lost it be electing communists to rule over us.

Blogger JP August 22, 2016 9:00 AM  

Russia really isn't a nice place to live (unless you happen to be an oligarch). That might change, and it probably is changing already, but I wouldn't trade South Africa (Being a well-armed middle-class white guy with scarce skills) for Russia just yet.

Anonymous Amarnoth August 22, 2016 9:01 AM  

@3 Fran

1. I speak Russian decently and interact with Russian-speaking Slavs in the U.S. several times per week.
2. I'm 20 and have a job in the skilled trades would allow me to relocate internationally with relative ease.
3. I have rather Slavic features (wide face) and often asked if I'm X breed of Slav. i.e., I'm not a blond Aryan or Hispanic trying to blend in.


My main concern with relocating falls somewhere between leaving family behind, and whether or not Italy/Austria/Poland would be better places to settle despite their high taxes (Russia has super low income and business tax rates).

Blogger Mr.MantraMan August 22, 2016 9:02 AM  

What could you possibly expect the West is run by women, excellent practioners of personal politics of the petty, pretty much useless at dealing with external issues.

Blogger CarpeOro August 22, 2016 9:09 AM  

Consider the last few decades since the Cold War ended. The United States elite have put the country on the wrong side of conflicts regularly, if not stirred the pot. I'd be surprised if most of the world didn't view us as a threat or a target for getting loot, if not both. I love my people but the pharisees and false prophets are far to thick on the ground these days. Russia has been on the correct side far more often. Harkening back to Jerry Pournelle's Codominium series, it would be in the interest of the United States to put the Cold War to rest and work with them. The continuation has roots in the same camp as the "nation building" idiocy and is against the interests of all but a few.

Anonymous ZhukovG August 22, 2016 9:09 AM  

I recall reading an article just last year that ranked Russia in the top 10 countries for American expats.

However, unlike some countries, Russia is rather picky about who gets in. They prefer ethnic Russians from former Soviet States.

An American can get in, provided they are sponsored by a Russian company that is hiring them. The company does have to prove that they cannot find a Russian citizen to fill the position. If you want to have a decent chance of getting in Engineering and Computer Science are in high demand.

However, I would suggest that you really think twice before embarking on something like this. Russian culture is very different from American, so unless you are prepared to learn Russian and convert to Russian Orthodox I'd forget it.

Anonymous Mister M August 22, 2016 9:13 AM  

"It turns out that Sting was wrong. The Russians not only love their children too, they observably love their children, their heritage, and their nation considerably more than the English or the Americans do."

Gary North in one of his speeches mentioned his metric of 'ZPP - Zingers Per Page'. This qualifies big time. Great 80's reference and rhetoric.

T. Dalrymple once tossed off a quip that the British Empire was once seen as an empire upon which 'the sun never sets'. Now it is the empire upon which 'the sun never rises.'

Blogger praetorian August 22, 2016 9:27 AM  

Why, in the name of hell, are we interested in fighting Russia? Leave them alone. Let Russia be Russian.

Putin tossed the Jewish oligarchs.

(((They hate our freedom, goy.)))

Anonymous glenintenn August 22, 2016 9:33 AM  

when even the likes of Peggy Noonan are getting some licks in, you know some people are getting nervous about the unrest in the low, common people of the West.

https://patriotpost.us/opinion/44266

"This week the Daily Caller’s Peter Hasson reported that recent Syrian refugees being resettled in Virginia, were sent to the state’s poorest communities. Data from the State Department showed that almost all Virginia’s refugees since October “have been placed in towns with lower incomes and higher poverty rates, hours away from the wealthy suburbs outside of Washington, D.C.” Of 121 refugees, 112 were placed in communities at least 100 miles from the nation’s capital. The suburban counties of Fairfax, Loudoun and Arlington — among the wealthiest in the nation, and home to high concentrations of those who create, and populate, government and the media — have received only nine refugees."

Blogger Robert Divinity August 22, 2016 9:34 AM  

The Russians also have proved quite adept at the diplomatic game. Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov is a wily, brilliant man who has outmaneuvered his American counterparts at each turn. He easily gets the better of such mediocre lightweights as the gasbag John Kerry. Respect for the United States has plummeted while Russia has risen in international esteem.

Everything I want to say about how the United States lost the peace after it valiantly fought a 50-year Cold War against evil cannot be squeezed into one comment. It essentially can be broken into two parts: (1) the United States did not put on the equivalent of a de-Stalinization program throughout the old communist countries, both to teach the world and Americans a lesson; and (2) the expansion of NATO to Russia's doorstep, along with the invasions of Orthodox Serbia and Kosovo, made the U.S. seem the bully the communists always made it out to be. We could have implemented a Marshall-type plan but
chose to go unsuccessful imperialist. It was and is beyond tragic.

Anonymous Rezny August 22, 2016 9:34 AM  

Such is life in Russia:
- No weapons, even knives are illegal, much less guns. The law basically protects the intruder and the robber, you'd better kill him and hide the body than let him live and get you to jail for assymetric response.
- Central Asian and Caucasian scum making problems (and yeah, people as swarthy as Italians or Uzbeki or Irish are no better then Negroes here), basically our Groids.
- Shitty climate in 50% of territory, probably 95% of it is abysmal for anyone accustomed to cozy subtropical American climate.
- Bribes, bribes everywhere, everyone from Putin to lowlife Pitunski laughs at law.
- An American is as likely to get slavish attention as to get unrefined hatered from locals, the latter the more possible the lower the class, and that would make 90% of Russia and 50% of Moscow a no-go zone.
- Basically Mexico on iceteroids.

Why would somebody willingly trade his gun and American lifestyle for this I can't even begin to comprehend. I'd rather die in rays of glory and pool of my cossack blood than trade it for pink Soviet North Nigeria, having tasted the freedom to own and use guns.
Organize and stockpile men and guns ffs.

Blogger The Other Robot August 22, 2016 9:44 AM  

No weapons, even knives are illegal, much less guns. The law basically protects the intruder and the robber, you'd better kill him and hide the body than let him live and get you to jail for assymetric response.

Can you back up these claims with links?

I seem to recall that the Saiga was sold in Russia first as a hunting gun.

Blogger Nate August 22, 2016 9:56 AM  

"It is not just physical warfare in which Moscow has a clear edge, the report says. Russian intelligence has mastered the art of hacking and disturbing radar signals, meaning the effectiveness of British and NATO weaponry and aircraft operated using GPS navigation is under serious threat."

I'm not disregarding this piece out of hand... but I am skeptical. for two primary reasons.

1) I lived through the 80s when we constantly bombarded with stories and reports that showed the USSR's military to be superior to the US's in category after category. Particularly in tech. That proved to be grossly inaccurate.

2) This line about the GPS... makes me question how much the authors actually know about how our GPS system works... or the kinds of built in upgrades that are already in the Satelites just waiting to be turned on. Russia does have jammers. But the problem is they have to jam a broad range... where as we can focus our GPS signals like a laser. That in and of itself reduces the effective range of the jammer. Then on top of that.. we have additional horse power in all of the GPS satellites waiting to go online... and on special occasions.. we can use the juice that is reserved for that.. to make that already focused laser hotter.


So.. lets say under normal circumstances your jammer creates a nice gps free bubble of.. 20 miles around you. But... when we are running ops our normal GPS is going punch through to about 5 miles out. And then... when we crank the juice up... your jammer is largely useless.

The US military has been severely downgraded... but this sort of warfare is the kind of thing its best at.

Blogger Mad Dyeda Jørgen August 22, 2016 10:01 AM  

@1

Да.
Russia is not problematic if you:

1. Speak Russian. Well. All the time.
2. Act Russian. Make Russian friends. Marry a Russian. Join the Orthodox Church. Join Единая Россия. Blend in.
3. Stay out of the provinces unless you are int he company of friends.

FYI, if you act like a damned arrogant Yankee or Euroweasel anywhere in Russia you WILL get your ass kicked.

Anonymous Amarnoth August 22, 2016 10:02 AM  

@32 Renzy

"In an amendment to its tough gun control laws, the Russian government eases restrictions, allowing citizens to carry licensed weapons for the purposes of ‘self-defense.’

The government’s press service underscored that carrying a weapon will remain prohibited at educational institutions, establishments which operate at night and serve alcohol, and mass public gatherings such as street demonstrations or protests. The legislation also forbids carrying a weapon while under the influence of alcohol.

The law broadly defines self-defense weapons, including smoothbore long barrelled guns, pistols, revolvers, and other firearms, as well as Tasers, and devices equipped with teargas. Long barrelled fire arms and edged weapons are, however, forbidden by the law."

https://www.rt.com/news/206703-russia-guns-self-defense/

Blogger The Other Robot August 22, 2016 10:04 AM  

But the problem is they have to jam a broad range... where as we can focus our GPS signals like a laser.

Can you explain that some more? The problem with metaphors like focus is that a GPS unit needs to receive a signal from at least 4 satellites to know where it is and the satellites do not know where the GPS unit is.

Also, even if you can get your GPS satellites to concentrate on a particular battlefield, the enemy only needs to open up operations on several fronts, or knock out a bunch of your GPS satellites.

Blogger Nate August 22, 2016 10:04 AM  

"No weapons, even knives are illegal, much less guns. The law basically protects the intruder and the robber, you'd better kill him and hide the body than let him live and get you to jail for assymetric response."

This is blatantly false.

A license is required. But only fully automatic weapons and handguns are banned. Rifles and shotguns are not banned.

A license is required to own them... including training on how they must be stored and transported.

In other words... the laws in Russia are roughly the same as New York and Chicago.

Blogger Mad Dyeda Jørgen August 22, 2016 10:06 AM  

@32, @33

It IS legal to own rifles and shotguns in Russia, but only for citizens. It is seven degrees of impossible to bring guns into Russia, though. You'll need to buy your guns there.

Anonymous ZhukovG August 22, 2016 10:10 AM  

Russians can own firearms, though all must be registered. Before only sportsmen could own them but a recent change to the law will allow any law abiding citizen to register a firearm for 'self defense'.

American expats have reported that Russians are extremely friendly. My own contact with Russian citizens has also been very amicable.

Moslem terrorism has been largely suppressed, but remains a threat in some areas. However, Moslem terrorism is a threat in the USA as well.

While much progress has been made in combating corruption, more work needs to be done. At least they are trying, unlike the USA.

Blogger Austin Ballast August 22, 2016 10:16 AM  

My father was a missionary to Russia in the late 1990s. He said he got a fair bit of hostility from people until his Polish/Slavic heritage came to the forefront. He said they were largely fine with him after that point.

The US was hated, but not the Polish apparently.

Anonymous Rezny August 22, 2016 10:22 AM  

All the links are in Russian, what good can they do? Yes, you can get a hunting rifle with moderate effort, but you're supposed to either use it at forest or keep disassembled in a safe in your house. You can't just go on your city business with guns on you, much less an assault rifle in hands (oh jealous am I). Except some gas powered peashoters that can't punch through an overcoat. Personal guns are strictly forbidden, you get them at the black market on your own risk.
And the assymetric response. If somebody tries to rob my flat (and often in happens, because Mexico) and God forbid I accidentally crack his skull open while only suffering some bruises, I'm in deed-deep trouble. Everyone understands it's extremely stupid anachronism from the Soviet era and that people will still protect themselves with extreme prejudice even if it's illegal, but it's still the case. Byzantine heritage comes with Byzantine laws I suppose, also with useless police called Musora/Trash with love by the common folk.
Somehow I'm supposed to subdue an assaulter without inflicting any lasting wounds on him while not having guns or anything. Chopping somebody to pieces with my home axe is always an option, but beyond risky because assymetric response.
Remember that Commies took away all the guns after 1921 (Commies are still in power, they just don't pretend to follow Marx bullshit beyond extracting value through state monopolies) and they had all the reasons for it. A hunting shotgun sometimes allowed to the kolkhoz villagers was called "Death to the Chairman" for the same reason.

Western warmongering is somewhat beneficial, actually. Putin and his cronies want little besides personal safety to further indulge in vice paid by easy oil money. Now without the oil money and with West eager to portray them as boogeymen, Putin and Co are forced to deal with, concede to and invest into the common populace just to have at least somebody to protect the region from forced takeover and have any economic plan B except for praying to the oil gods. So I'd like the sabre rattling to continue, its totally OK in moderation.

Never think it is easy to run away, it isn't the XVI century and Russia is no Injun Wilderness. You'll exchange a load of specific American problems for an equal load of specific Russian problems, adding migrant migraines on top. For what?

Blogger Nate August 22, 2016 10:27 AM  

"All the links are in Russian, what good can they do? Yes, you can get a hunting rifle with moderate effort, but you're supposed to either use it at forest or keep disassembled in a safe in your house. You can't just go on your city business with guns on you, much less an assault rifle in hands (oh jealous am I). Except some gas powered peashoters that can't punch through an overcoat. Personal guns are strictly forbidden, you get them at the black market on your own risk. "

You are either grossly misinformed or you are simply lying.

http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/russia

Anonymous ZhukovG August 22, 2016 10:32 AM  

@42 So you have already admitted to being somewhat 'free with the truth'.

Are you in fact a Russian citizen currently residing within the Russian Federation?

Blogger Nate August 22, 2016 10:35 AM  

https://www.rt.com/news/206703-russia-guns-self-defense/

It sucks compared to what we have in the most of the US. No question. But its by no means the worst place. There are lots of places where its worse than Russia... and Russia is at least moving in the right direction.

Anonymous Viidad August 22, 2016 10:41 AM  

Crusader Corim: "The concept of fleeing because things are tough is the exact thing that we despise."

Tell that to the Pilgrims.

Anonymous Viidad August 22, 2016 10:42 AM  

It is tough to stay or "flee." Seeking out a better life for one's children is not cowardice.

Blogger dc.sunsets August 22, 2016 10:43 AM  

A friend bought a house in Uruguay after he embraced the Doug Casey style of "crisis investing." (which BTW is BS.) It was to be his refuge when the USA blew sky high.

He sold it about 10 years later, I suspect because he figured out the truth: You don't move somewhere that you'll always be the foreigner, and you don't leave your friends, family and loved ones. It's stupid.

I respect the early American settlers. They came to the Americas to BUILD. Some were "escaping" conditions, but for the most part it was a different motivation.

People who emigrate to "escape" are entirely different. They are not generally the winners, the builders, the stern stuff that makes a society great. [People who emigrate to obtain gibsmedats/welfare are far, far worse of course.]

Here is where we stay, win or lose (in the long run.) Trying to find a hidey-hole in South America, Russia or anywhere else that would allow us in would be self-destructive in the long run. Running is the abnegation of self.

Me and mine won't reconquer North America. My hope is that my descendants muster with like-minded (and like-"gened") people (high IQ, high capability Caucasians who exhibit similar levels of low time preference and self-discipline) to carve out from this wilderness a successor to America...in North America.*

*Unless another ice age occurs, in which I hope my descendants invade and completely replace people someplace "better." Yes, I'm a Chauvinist. Get over it.

Blogger pyrrhus August 22, 2016 10:43 AM  

The weakness and convergence of NATO and US forces is great news, as far as I am concerned. Their "victories" are destroying America. As Pyrrhus of Epirus once said, "Another such victory and we are lost."

Blogger Quadko August 22, 2016 10:43 AM  

The same could have been said in WWII comparing Brittan to Germany.

Anonymous Rezny August 22, 2016 10:45 AM  

@44, Russian permanent resident, not a Russian citizen.
So I happened to be born and raised far away from Moscow or St. Petersburg. It gives certain perspective, you know, to be raised in bydlo infested commie poisoned area instead of the cozy capitals.

American expats might be nice and tight on their ridiculously large salaries inside Moscow Third Transport ring, but then again, they might as well get their bucks at Mexico city. Pretty much the same, less snow and nukes, more cocaine.

Anonymous ZhukovG August 22, 2016 10:46 AM  

@45 Yes, they definitely don't have it as easy as we have. Not only in gun laws but in standard of living in general.

But attempts of some(not you of course) to mischaracterize Russia using examples from the 1990s is really annoying.

I do agree somewhat with Rezny that most Americans would be ill advised to relocate to Russia even if you can.

As for me, as much as I love and admire Russia and her people, I'll take my stand in Dixie.

Blogger Dirtnapninja August 22, 2016 10:47 AM  

The way I figure, whites and european ethnics should refuse to serve in the military of any nation that is not serving their interests. If the Globalists want to fight another forever war in Crapistan, then let them fight it with women, gays, blacks and muslims.

Blogger praetorian August 22, 2016 10:47 AM  

Coastal East Russia seems ripe for an autonomous mishling potato nigger oblast.

Blogger dc.sunsets August 22, 2016 10:48 AM  

I will add that if you're the subject of a pogrom then running is obviously Pro-Life. Only a fool seeks a meaningless end, and martyrdom is not predictably Pro-Life.

In the context of the USA, the most prominent reason to flee would be if the citizenry went Full Jonestown and decreed that all white people had to drink the cyanide-laced Red KoolAid so that the cult's dieties, blacks and browns, could finally be free of our DNA-encoded racism.

So far, the neighbors don't see all that likely to take the Equals Temple cult quite that far. But the future is an unknown.

Blogger Nate August 22, 2016 10:51 AM  

"As for me, as much as I love and admire Russia and her people, I'll take my stand in Dixie."

Taking a stand is less an option for a man with a big family and young kids. That said... Russia isn't on the list of nice places to bail out to.

Anonymous Crusader Corim August 22, 2016 10:53 AM  

The Pilgrims are a fantastic example of why fleeing is a terrible idea, Viidad

Thanks for proving my point!

Fortunately, I'm not descended from them. I'm from the doughty Virginians who came here to build a new nation, and succeeded wildly.

Blogger Elder Son August 22, 2016 10:56 AM  

@42 Your 3rd paragraph is hilarious. Because of sick western hegemony, Russia/Putin is forced into a virtuous corner. Was that the plan all along, or just unintended consequences? If it wasn't for the west, Pussy Riot would be a Russian national treasure, and the Russian industrial oligarchs vice would have never been slapped down by Putin?

https://youtu.be/VtlO39wIRWs

The non-integrating gap WILL be brought into the western globalist NWO core. As ENVISIONED by "our" U.N. founders.

We shall have world government, whether or not we like it. The question is only whether world government will be achieved by consent or by conquest.

They spit in the peoples face, and the people call it dew.

Anonymous Rezny August 22, 2016 10:57 AM  

@46 Consider that the Pilgrims moved to the "free land" overseas only after failing to take root in culturally, linguistically and religiously similar Netherlands. Not the Ottoman Empire even.

And if you happen to remember the Wolga Germans and the like, don't forget they were invited by a ruler of German ethnicity into a place rulled by a class under a heaviest influence of Baltic German aristocracy.
And Wolga Germans ended in a desert once Commies took over.

Blogger Nate August 22, 2016 10:57 AM  

"The Pilgrims are a fantastic example of why fleeing is a terrible idea, Viidad"

Crusade brave sir!!!

Say... How many kids under 10 do you have?

Anonymous ZhukovG August 22, 2016 11:00 AM  

@56 The list of nice places to bail out to is thin and getting thinner.

Back in the 80s I was stationed in the United Kingdom and could easily have stayed there. I felt completely at home. Now, I doubt I would feel the same way.

Blogger Nate August 22, 2016 11:03 AM  

"The list of nice places to bail out to is thin and getting thinner."

oh it depends on your definition of nice. What are you lookin for? I have a wildly different idea of what I want. The places I look at are places that most consider me insane for considering.

Blogger Nate August 22, 2016 11:04 AM  

then again... you should remember... you don't need a place to flee to at all. Buy a sail boat. Live on the water. No Man Owns the Sea.

Blogger Elder Son August 22, 2016 11:08 AM  

No Man Owns the Sea.

Except for those pesky, laws, of the sea, treaties.

And their guns are bigger than your guns.

Anonymous ZhukovG August 22, 2016 11:11 AM  

@62 Well, there is that of course. My definition of nice has changed over the years.

Soon nowhere may be nice.

Blogger Nate August 22, 2016 11:19 AM  

'Except for those pesky, laws, of the sea, treaties.

And their guns are bigger than your guns.'

***chuckle***

what a small world you must live in.

Blogger Nate August 22, 2016 11:20 AM  

"Soon nowhere may be nice."

again... define nice. If you are looking for something like what you have now... you're right.

That's not what I'm looking.

I'm looking for something that most would call a third world hell hole.

I assure you... there is no shortage

Blogger Were-Puppy August 22, 2016 11:20 AM  

@52 ZhukovG

As for me, as much as I love and admire Russia and her people, I'll take my stand in Dixie.
---

You know if SHTF that the will finally try to finish off the South. There will be plenty of chances to make those stands and win.

OpenID randkoch August 22, 2016 11:22 AM  

It wasn't that long ago that the Alt-Right was joining with lefties on Guantanamo and rough interrogation. Here's where Trump correctly diverges from the Alt-Right, and they (also correctly) allow him to.

I'm sure that Russia is on the right side on this, too. Too far in the wrong direction, to be sure, but only because they want victory. They love their children.

Blogger Nate August 22, 2016 11:23 AM  

'You know if SHTF that the will finally try to finish off the South. There will be plenty of chances to make those stands and win.'

that's one likely possibility. Another is it gets so far out of control that the South largely takes care of itself and they focus else where just trying to cling to power.

interesting times. sadly.

Blogger Matamoros August 22, 2016 11:26 AM  

According to defectors such as Anatoly Golitsin, et al. the Soviet Union never fell, it just morphed into the Russian Federation in order to continue its plan for world conquest.

This is not true of the Russian people, who are decent, salt of the earth people, but of the government apparatchiks maintaining "continuity of government".

It is difficult to sort the US Government b.s. from the dizinformatsiya.

If one looks at Fatima we are warned against the "errors of Russia", that will continue to undermine civilization until Russia is consecrated to the Immaculate Heart.

It has been of interest that she did not say the errors of zionism, but the "errors of Russia." Therefore, everything must be filtered through this lens to obtain a proper understanding of events.

In this regard www.ourladyofamerica.com -

Our Lady of America:

“It is the United States that is to lead the world to peace, the peace of Christ, the peace that He brought with Him from heaven,” Sr. Mildred Mildred quoted the Virgin as saying. “Dear children, unless the United States accepts and carries out faithfully the mandate given to it by heaven to lead the world to peace, there will come upon it and all nations a great havoc of war and incredible suffering. If, however, the United States is faithful to this mandate from heaven and yet fails in the pursuit of peace because the rest of the world will not accept or cooperate, then the United States will not be burdened with the punishment about to fall…”

“If my desires are not fulfilled much suffering will come to this land. My faithful one, if my warnings are taken seriously and enough of my children strive constantly and faithfully to renew and reform themselves in their inward and outward lives, then there will be no nuclear war. What happens to the world depends upon those who live in it. There must be much more good than evil prevailing in order to prevent the holocaust that is so near approaching. Yet I tell you, my daughter, even should such a destruction happen because there were not enough souls who took my warning seriously, there will remain a remnant, untouched by the chaos who, having been faithful in following me and spreading my warnings, will gradually inhabit the earth again with their dedicated and holy lives.”

Blogger Salt August 22, 2016 11:27 AM  

Nate wrote:then again... you should remember... you don't need a place to flee to at all. Buy a sail boat. Live on the water. No Man Owns the Sea.

Yes.

Elder Son wrote:Except for those pesky, laws, of the sea, treaties.

Know what you're doing. Know where you are.

Anonymous Rezny August 22, 2016 11:27 AM  

@58 You overreact. Wench Riot and the like are at its core are no different then the Nihilists of XIX century, only as vulgar as the century XXI is. For the last 1155 years not too many things have changed in any radical manner over here.

I believe Putin would have been most glad to become an NWO commisar, if on equal terms with its Jewish-American perpetrators. Something went amiss, and I'm kinda glad it did.
But not overly. Exchanging 7 Jewish Banksters for 1 Soviet Scary-letters-agency-dude with 700 friends and in-laws is a dubious progress paid for by the oil decade, Western-Jewish bloated ego and little else.

Blogger Elder Son August 22, 2016 11:34 AM  

***chuckle***

what a small world you must live in.


Reality doesn't care whether the world is small, or large. Or, somewhere in the middle.

The fact remains: Except for those pesky laws of the sea treaties.

If you want to go the post-apocalyptic world route, your boat better be bigger and have lots of guns. You won't be the only one on the sea.

***chuckle***

Blogger dc.sunsets August 22, 2016 11:37 AM  

Yeah, the "boat" idea sounds great. I wonder whether I'd survive the sea sickness long enough to get past it. Undone by my own inner ear....

Blogger dc.sunsets August 22, 2016 11:38 AM  

I think Nate has in mind that if you can't have a society of the "Can and Do's," be top dog in the next best thing.

Just remember, don't let the bitch bite you and draw blood.

Anonymous Not a Yankee August 22, 2016 11:41 AM  

Not too fond of any races North of Tennessee. Came from a mix of all kinds of Brit Islander. One difference between Irish you need to make is papist vs protestant. World of difference.

Blogger Salt August 22, 2016 11:45 AM  

Elder Son wrote:If you want to go the post-apocalyptic world route, your boat better be bigger and have lots of guns. You won't be the only one on the sea.

You don't know much about boats, or the sea for that matter, do you.

Anonymous Not a Yankee August 22, 2016 11:47 AM  

Commented in the wrong thread. Sorry Vox.

Anonymous Bellator Mortalis August 22, 2016 11:54 AM  

Took a 2 week vacation through the American Southwest - mainly on state and country roads. Only took the interstate highways to get there and return. (Texas panhandle, New Mexico, Arizona, Utah, Colorado.)

Lots of small towns. Nice people. Some stores sold: gas, guns, and beer. Almost all white, and the "hispanics" were mostly native americans. The rare black person seemed very careful of their behavior.

The Texas panhandle seems to be booming in gas & oil. Lots of workers there, every second vehicle was a new or nearly new large pickup truck. Hardly ever saw a police car in any of the states. The roads were almost all in excellent condition. Children were free to hang out safely. However in many of the small towns there were closed and abandoned businesses. Cell coverage was spotty -- often no cell coverage between towns. Lots of "help wanted" ads in the local papers -- but most were for low pay service positions. Land is inexpensive for purchase -- even in western Colorado in the rural areas.

So -- for those who say there is "no where to run" -- just move down there. The mid-size towns have plenty of business opportunities, and just a few miles outside those towns land is cheap to buy. Gun laws vary but in Arizona for example as long as you are 21 or older you can carry concealed or openly with no permit, and gun registration is not required.

Blogger jamsco August 22, 2016 12:01 PM  

"It turns out that Sting was wrong."

So you don't subscribe to his point of view?

Blogger Abyssus Invocat August 22, 2016 12:12 PM  

"The Russians not only love their children too, they observably love their children, their heritage, and their nation considerably more than the English or the Americans do.".

Now THAT is a hard truth.

Anonymous BGKB August 22, 2016 12:12 PM  

Russians not only love their children too,...more than the English or the Americans do.

(((Barney Frank, Mark Singer, and Lena Dunham))) have all proven their love of children.

The Soviet Union was obviously evil and had to be contained You mean the (((leaders))) of the

march through the smoldering ruins of Midtown Manhattan, I'll be first in line to call for the destruction of Russia

I think you misspelled Israel if you are talking about 9-11

This line about the GPS... makes me question how much the authors actually know about how our GPS system works

I passed the EFMB day/night land nav courses taken by people in the medical MOSs, what diversity there was, was not good in those areas.

FYI, if you act like a damned arrogant Yankee or Euroweasel anywhere in Russia you WILL get your ass kicked

What about St Petersburg, Moscow, and along the Black Sea?

but you're supposed to either use it at forest or keep disassembled in a safe in your house

Have you seen how fast a Russian girl can assemble an AK47? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxV3q8fztCc

OpenID aew51183 August 22, 2016 12:17 PM  

@2

I honestly wouldn't mind Russia marching through the ruins of our coastal cities. Absolutely nothing of value happens there. They haven't been manufacturing centers in a generation and serve as the nexus of the globalist parasite destroying our nation.

Blogger Duinne Eile August 22, 2016 12:27 PM  

- Central Asian and Caucasian scum making problems (and yeah, people as swarthy as Italians or Uzbeki or Irish are no better then Negroes here), basically our Groids

You have obviously never been to Ireland or know many Irish people, or else your definition of swarthy is very different to mine

Anonymous Crusader Corim August 22, 2016 12:33 PM  

Nate, I have three children under the age of 10. I am fully aware of the dangers to them. Shall I make them minorities in a country not their own, losing their heritage, their people and their future?

My forefathers fought against the Union tyrants when they had small children at home.

Blogger Duinne Eile August 22, 2016 12:38 PM  

- Central Asian and Caucasian scum making problems (and yeah, people as swarthy as Italians or Uzbeki or Irish are no better then Negroes here), basically our Groids

You have obviously never been to Ireland or know many Irish people, or else your definition of swarthy is very different to mine

Blogger John Williams August 22, 2016 12:54 PM  

Yes. I too wondered why the US attacked Gaddaffi
Because, like Saddam, he was selling oil for gold, not USD.

Anonymous andon August 22, 2016 1:04 PM  

also I hear Gaddafi wanted to establish a gold-backed currency for Africa.

Anonymous BGKB August 22, 2016 1:11 PM  

Pretty much the same, less snow and nukes, more cocaine.

When I talk about the amount of cocaine in areas, its only areas I have been in and I didn't do any because a drug test could prevent me from ever being employed. I am reasonably certain that the junkie nurse program has a higher criteria for whites.

If the Globalists want to fight another forever war in Crapistan, then let them fight it with women, gays, blacks and muslims

The GI bill is the only way many whites can go to college, while blacks/hispancis too stupid to be allowed into the military get scholarships. ARE YOU A SPIC OR DIDNDU TOO STUPID FOR THE MARINES HARVARD WANTS YOU MORE THAN ASIANS WITH PERFECT SAT SCORES

You know if SHTF that the will finally try to finish off the South.

The die verse cities will take the brunt of the SHTF die off. You better hope someone takes care of the bridges between you and Atlanta.

Yeah, the "boat" idea sounds great. I wonder whether I'd survive the sea sickness long enough to get past it.

A boat is a hole in the water you throw money into. To be able to live at sea with a family post SHTF you would have to be able to do all of the repairs needed on ocean capable boats.

I hear Gaddafi wanted to establish a gold-backed currency for Africa.

The Ukraine amassed 33 tons of gold before (((SOROS))) backed the coup d'état

Blogger Chris Mallory August 22, 2016 1:12 PM  

Nate wrote:Buy a sail boat. Live on the water.

Sadly, you give up your 4th Amendment rights on the water. The Coast Guard claims the privilege to board and search any boat, without a warrant, for "safety issues".

Blogger clk August 22, 2016 1:36 PM  

I think its a mistake to assign the same stupidity to our generals and military planners as is obvious with our politicians. In a conventional war with US, Russia losses --- it might not be a cake walk like in Iraq but the end is without doubt.

I am sure GPS is not the only way that US military can plot location... they are well aware of potential GPS jamming .. just being able to see the sun and/or stars is enough, and we have high resolution pictures of the entire surface of the planet.

Blogger Were-Puppy August 22, 2016 1:46 PM  

@90 BGKB

The die verse cities will take the brunt of the SHTF die off. You better hope someone takes care of the bridges between you and Atlanta.
---

I hear that. I've been staying out of the metro area for some time now.

What will be curious to see is what happens outside the perimeter, but still considered metro Atlanta.

Anyway, the point I was attempting to make was that the forces who have been against the South since the Civil War might try and finish us off.

Blogger Were-Puppy August 22, 2016 1:48 PM  

@90 BGKB
A boat is a hole in the water you throw money into. To be able to live at sea with a family post SHTF you would have to be able to do all of the repairs needed on ocean capable boats.
---

There are some people lives on boats on Lake Lanier. Those boats are brought in by truck.
Someone opens the dam they will all be on red clay beachfront :P

Blogger Nate August 22, 2016 1:59 PM  

'A boat is a hole in the water you throw money into. To be able to live at sea with a family post SHTF you would have to be able to do all of the repairs needed on ocean capable boats.'

/facepalm

Because we don't have long time commenters on this very blog who have been doing it for you know... decades.

Blogger Nate August 22, 2016 2:00 PM  

"Sadly, you give up your 4th Amendment rights on the water. The Coast Guard claims the privilege to board and search any boat, without a warrant, for "safety issues". "

yes... giving up pretend rights that are ignored every second of every day is totally a big deal.

Blogger Cluebat Vanexodar August 22, 2016 2:06 PM  

I am still trying to get my head around the notion the a $5M investment in lightly armored vehicles is a major development. Is that a typo?

Anonymous Athor Pel August 22, 2016 2:06 PM  

" 70. Blogger Nate August 22, 2016 11:23 AM
'You know if SHTF that the will finally try to finish off the South. There will be plenty of chances to make those stands and win.'

that's one likely possibility. Another is it gets so far out of control that the South largely takes care of itself and they focus else where just trying to cling to power.
..."


Imagine a world with the foundations ripped out of it. Your money won't spend. Your bank won't open. When it does open you can only get tiny amounts out. Your grocery store shelves start going bare for days at a time. Then the rationing starts. The gas stations put up signs saying, "OUT OF GAS", on a regular basis or close down entirely. The power to your house gets turned off everyday at 4pm. Then power only comes on four days a week, then three, then a few times a month. The landline, cell and satellite networks do the same thing. One day you realize nothing is working and hadn't worked for so many days you lost count.

What news you do get is all word of mouth or shortwave radio. And you hear about whole cities burned to the ground, or whole counties carpet bombed to oblivion, or cities full of dead people laying in the streets from a disease no one wants to even talk about. And the cannibals, always the damned cannibals.

One time you heard your state was seceding from the union but it doesn't mean much to your personally. You're too worried about where your next meal is coming from. You do see federal troops moving around or setting up roadblocks. The stories you hear about them convince you to stay well away from them.

Then you start seeing planes in the sky again. There may have even been missles. Then no more planes. And the troops all left. Your world gets quiet.

The rumors start getting really whacked out a few weeks later. Things like foreign troops landing on every coast. Huge earthquakes on the west coast with miles of land sliding into the Pacific. One guy on the shortwave says he saw battles in space with his telescope.

But you don't care. Your garden is doing pretty good. You and your neighbors dealt with those cannibals from the city and your kid doesn't have a fever anymore. Life is good.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents August 22, 2016 2:17 PM  

clk
I am sure GPS is not the only way that US military can plot location... they are well aware of potential GPS jamming .. just being able to see the sun and/or stars is enough, and we have high resolution pictures of the entire surface of the planet.

Celestial navigation works best when practiced regularly. How much regular practice do you think the average pilot gets per year?

Blogger kennymac August 22, 2016 2:31 PM  

Max V is the man! If any of yous guys are looking for some solid light infantry training you can't go wrong taking a class at MVT in WV. I took one in '14, well worth it.

Blogger Nate August 22, 2016 2:39 PM  

"Celestial navigation works best when practiced regularly. How much regular practice do you think the average pilot gets per year? "

The military practices land nav extremely diligently.

Blogger JimR August 22, 2016 2:50 PM  

@101

The Naval Academy only reinstituted celestial navigation training last year, more than a decade after dropping it.

Few pilots know what to do with a sextant, they usually focus on the first syllable and then get distracted.

http://www.militarytimes.com/story/military/tech/2015/11/01/naval-academy-reinstates-celestial-navigation/74998554/

The INS systems are pretty good though, much better than they were in the 60s, but you won't find B2 navigators taking star sightings any time soon.

Blogger praetorian August 22, 2016 3:00 PM  

My forefathers fought against the Union tyrants when they had small children at home.

> typing this at Nate

(kek)

Blogger VD August 22, 2016 3:01 PM  

So you don't subscribe to his point of view?

No. I don't think parents of the West love their children very much. If they did, they would not send them off to school as soon as possible, encourage them to go into debt, and leave them with an invaded, collapsing country.

Anonymous Rezny August 22, 2016 3:15 PM  

@83
St. Petersburg has population larger than 30 American states, Moscow twice that, so it depends on the district, of which there are dozens. A tourist will be fine, if he isn't looking for adventures. If he does, he will find them wherever he pleases.
Negro skin is highly provoking far from the universities, tourist guides or more affluent districts, as I've seen harassment of "Afro-Russians" live in subway and on the streets.
I'm pretty sure US expats have their asses kissed hourly while working in some leet south-western district of Moscow. This is not a model for a migrant - the company has its backside pleased, not the person occupying space for the moment.
Sochi should be totally OK, Crimea - not so much.

Seriously now, Mexico is closer, economically similar, has better climate and is culturally an order of magnitude closer to anything American. If you end up in some Los Zetas basement with fingers chopped off daily to speed up ransom - some Chechen gang has about the same probability of kidnapping you, except the ticket there will be three times as expensive.
Russia is a world in itself. You don't just switch worlds, unless there's welfare involved (protip - not in Russia).


@87
https://postimg.org/image/my8wis8jr/

Anonymous A.B. Prosper August 22, 2016 3:34 PM  

Don't do White Flight, Prepare for White Fight.

That said, the UK will not and cannot go to war with Russia. So long as that nation retains its will and its nukes, chemical weapons and germ warfare capability they are safe from serious attack from anyone except maybe China.

And they won't be making any serious land grabs, the birth rate there is on par with White Americans (i.e. not good) but its getting better and ours is getting worse. They don't have the surplus manpower or allied or vassal nations to take land.

Its all defense for them not offense unless they are pushed to the brink.

Now proxy wars over the Crimea or some such place are still on the Neo Con menu but Russia isn't that easy to trap .

Also if Trump wins, these problems will go away. He'll sit down to tea with Putin, hash out some differences and as long as he is in office relations will be cool but cordial which is all one can expect from Russia anyway

As for the UK army, its not useful for much of anything other than being a US "ally" anyway. The only non domestic, threat they face is maybe eventually Turkey. They could use a better Navy though.

Now in a few decades, if the UK is still around and still white ask later

Blogger justaguy August 22, 2016 3:49 PM  

Russia has always chose a very astute armed forces strategy of playing to their strengths and trying to minimize their technological disadvantage. They generally apply numerical advantage over high cost technology. As the only country that saved the West twice when the rest of Europe was lost (Napoleon and WWII), they have some perspective on strategy. Of note to the talk of force advantages- IMHO, I don't think that we ever had the ability to stop Russia from running over Europe short of use of nuclear weapons at any time since WWII. The conventional forces were always at a tremendous force disadvantage. Conversely, why would they want Western Europe? Does anyone think that they could extract resources out of it--they couldn't extract much from Eastern Europe long term and the cost of empire became a drain soon after the available factories were shipped to Russia. Currently they are trying to stop the dismemberment of their people and stop the lumbering beast of NATO that somehow ended up at their doorstep and was threatening to take away their Black Sea fleet. Russia tends to think defensively and has been acting that way since Putin took control.

Anonymous BGKB August 22, 2016 4:03 PM  

Because we don't have long time commenters on this very blog who have been doing it for you know... decades.

I am addressing post SHTF boat living, not going out for the weekend fishing, not using a boat to escape to another nation, not having parties in the harbor, but actual living on a boat without a civilization to replenish you on a monthly basis.

How long could you live on your boat without being able to get fuel & datrex bars? Bugging out on a boat is a lot different than riding out a Max Max 50-80% die off in one.

The military practices land nav extremely diligently.

I believed in equality when I started to ask my nigger LT about where we were moving 1/2 the battalion aid station to in training. He chimped out about questioning orders so we followed his plan and drove out past the front line,& the referees gave us a nice long nap. If there is success at military land nav courses its because people have gotten to know the training terrain over and over. Giving girls and non Asian minorities a passing grade so the can close down the range doesn't mean they will succeed when it counts.

As the only country that saved the West twice when the rest of Europe was lost (Napoleon and WWII),

Napoleon was one of the ((()))s greatest enemies.

Ok I will sperg about SHTF boats a little, disregard if not intrested:

Where will you go if you need to haul out? You can’t expect there to be a operating SHTF boatyard that can fix any structural or mechanical damage you might have or replace a heat exchanger, fix your radar or radio, replace your watermaker diaphragm, or rebuild a generator? Are you going to scrape barnacles with a putty knife in the water? Rust never sleeps, and corrosion doesn’t rest, in a salt water environment. It’s pretty much like floating your boat around in a giant pool of battery acid 24/7. Do you have the part or parts that you need to get going again readily available to you? Can you be your own sailmaker and rigger to repair the sails and rigging on your sailboat? Do you have the wherewithal and tools to get the job done on your own?

Look at these boaters in normal times http://www.guns.com/2013/05/23/hitron-hunting-drug-dealers-from-helicopters-video/

Blogger praetorian August 22, 2016 5:30 PM  

Don't do White Flight, Prepare for White Fight.

Those who make white flight impossible make white fight inevitable.

Blogger Kona Commuter August 22, 2016 5:35 PM  

Putin certainly appears to be playing the long game. When the Turks shot down one of his bombers I thought it'd was game on. But no, here we are with Turks swapping sides and Russia getting a distinct advantage.

Anonymous 6184 August 22, 2016 5:43 PM  

@Nate
"But the problem is they have to jam a broad range... where as we can focus our GPS signals like a laser. "

Nate, gonna have to disagree with you here, even with high power and multiple frequency channels turned on, GPS is relatively easy to block over large areas.

Mostly because the signal levels are literally below the thermal noise floor under normal circumstances, and not much higher under others.

That being said, most of our systems have inertial backup or terrain mapping backup.

Anonymous andon August 22, 2016 6:23 PM  

the enemy isn't in Russia, its in the white house

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 22, 2016 8:34 PM  

The GPS issue is not jamming per se. It is hijacking.
You may recall the incident a few years ago when the Iranians landed an American drone on one of their own runways by hijacking the GPS system. Pretty sure that they had a little help on that one.

If you can deflect/crash/divert/confuse American weaponry, including manned craft, by telling them they are someplace they are not, you neutralize the effectiveness of the weaponry.

Anonymous 6184 August 22, 2016 9:25 PM  

True. Though hijacking is possible because the highest GPS signal levels from satellites are normally -125dbm maximum, which makes it much easier to jam them with local false signals.

I agree that the details of what is takes to spoof GPS accurately are beyond Iran's reach without help.

Blogger Lazarus August 22, 2016 11:33 PM  

BGKB wrote:Where will you go if you need to haul out? You can’t expect there to be a operating SHTF boatyard that can fix any structural or mechanical damage you might have or replace a heat exchanger, fix your radar or radio, replace your watermaker diaphragm, or rebuild a generator?

Britannia conquered the world in wooden boats.

No heat exchangers, no radios, no radar, no generator, no gas, no oil, etc.

Wood floats, eh?

Blogger JimR August 22, 2016 11:44 PM  

@115 Lazarus

yeah, and you ain't Britannia.

Blogger JimR August 22, 2016 11:47 PM  

People who think they are going to sail off into the sunset, and avoid the toil and strife by hopping from one island paradise to the next secluded cove are like those folks who think they'll just pick up a knife and their kentucky rifle and wander off and be a mountain man in the far woods until everything settles down. There must be a very few who *could* do that, but the odds are, they aren't commenting here.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 23, 2016 12:24 AM  

JimR wrote:There must be a very few who *could* do that, but the odds are, they aren't commenting here.

Actually, there's no place online they'd be likelier to be found.

Anonymous TheVillageIdiot Ret. August 23, 2016 1:00 AM  

Have you seen how fast a Russian girl can assemble an AK47? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxV3q8fztCc

DannyR
DannyR

Anonymous TheVillageIdiot Ret. August 23, 2016 1:06 AM  

Have you seen how fast a Russian girl can assemble an AK47? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxV3q8fztCc

I think i'm in love

DannyR

Anonymous Colorado Confederate August 23, 2016 1:11 AM  

007's "For Your Eyes Only", but reversed.

Blogger The Other Robot August 23, 2016 1:30 AM  

The Russians are better prepared for war now than the Soviets were in 1941. I would not bet against them.

Anonymous Athor Pel August 23, 2016 10:09 AM  

" 114. Anonymous 6184 August 22, 2016 9:25 PM
...
I agree that the details of what is takes to spoof GPS accurately are beyond Iran's reach without help. "


You want to spoof GPS. Here's the bubba method. Get a GPS receiver. Take the signals it receives and rebroadcast them exactly as received. No need to decrypt, no need to reverse engineer anything. All you're doing is delaying them. Since at its core the GPS signal is a time hack, a signal delay is a movement of the calculated position.
This is essentially inducing a multipath error. Multipath errors occur in any GPS receiver when it is close to tall buildings, cliffs or trees. The satellite signal is bouncing off the tall surfaces and getting to the receiver later than it would otherwise. This delay causes positional error.

Any nation with someone trained in radio technology could do it. Iran could do it easy. Most nations could easily do it. There are junior high school students that could do it.

Or an even more brute force method is fill the air with noise at the same frequency as the GPS. You can't use a signal that doesn't get received.

Like was said earlier in the thread, GPS satellite signals aren't very strong, nor are they directional, they are broadcasts.

There may be methods for dealing with these eventualites but you would need to talk to the DoD to learn them.

Blogger Bibliotheca Servare August 24, 2016 12:57 AM  

It's nice, but they cut the damned thing to bits, so now you can't tell how long it actually took her! I mean, what happened to the boy who was stripping an AK at the table next to her? There one second, gone the next. And what's with the "let's cut to a close up of the magazine while she's working" bull? I'm not arguing that she's couldn't have done it swiftly, I'm just annoyed that I can't tell how quickly she's actually did it because they edited the video unnecessarily. Darn it.

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