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Tuesday, August 30, 2016

Assimilationist liars

I've recently chronicled how various assimilationists, from (((Israel Zangwill))) to (((Ben Shapiro))), (((Ekaterina Jung))), and (((Andrew Klavan))) have either concocted or attempted to pass off self-serving revisionist lies about American history in order to retroactively write their (((tribe))) into it so they can claim to be "every bit as American" as the Posterity whose rights the U.S. Constitution was written to protect.

Considering that the purpose of the U.S. Constitution was to safeguard the rights of that Posterity, their actions in doing so are not only dishonest, but are literally anti-American. They are more cuckoo than the cuckservatives in this regard, in both senses of the term.

These lies include the following concepts:
  • The melting pot
  • A proposition nation
  • A nation of immigrants
  • Judeo-Christian values
Like any effective lie, each is constructed  around a fragment of truth, in this case, the section of the Declaration of Independence which declares: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

However, it is also self-evident that a secular atheist Jew, such as (((Ekaterina Jung))), who does not believe in a Creator, cannot credibly appeal to the Declaration in order to claim to be an American. And it is documentarily evident that, like the U.S. Constitution, the Naturalization Act of 1790, the writings of John Jay, Ben Franklin, Alexander Hamilton, and other Founding Fathers, and the Alt-Right nationalist position, the Declaration of Independence itself is directly opposed to the revisionist interpretation, as the document also refers to:
  • the connection between [the United Colonies] and the State of Great Britain
  • the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages
  • large Armies of foreign Mercenaries
  • the present King of Great Britain
  • the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners
  • the free System of English Laws
  • our Brittish brethren
To cite one phrase of a document in contradiction to the central theme of the entire document, which is that the People of the United Colonies are an English people, unique and distinct from foreigners, Indians, and the English people loyal to the King of Britain, is an outrageous attempt at deceit that relies entirely on the historical ignorance of the audience. To say that anyone can become an American because "all men are created equal" is a shameless lie. One might as readily cite it as evidence to claim it means anyone can become Chinese.

Now, I was aware of this deception because I am half-American, born in Boston, descended in my paternal line from an American revolutionary who died at Valley Forge, and steeped in the history of the American revolution. My family even celebrated Independence Day 1976 in Lexington, Massachusetts. But what I did not know, not being Jewish, is that Jews have also been victimized by the same sort of revisionist Talmudry to which Americans have been subjected by their assimilationist co-religionists.

In Cuckservative, John Red Eagle and I made the connection between Churchianity and the concept of Tikkun Olam, the Jewish mandate to "heal the world". But, as one of the Jewish readers here helpfully brings to our attention, it turns out that "heal the world" is just another assimilationist lie, no more historically legitimate than the anti-American lies already mentioned.
"The central mitzvah or commandment for our era is the mitzvah of Tikkun Olam.   It is the defining mission of Jews to strive for the repair of the world by making society more just, fair, egalitarian, and sensitive. Judaism demands that we repair the world by striving for social justice.  It is the mission of Jews in the Divine Plan for the universe to repair the world by repairing man, by improving and advancing mankind."

The above paragraph is a fair representation of what has become the defining raison d'etre of Judaism as conveyed by non-Orthodox liberal Jewish organizations and synagogues in America.  It is not a direct citation from any of them, but is an accurate paraphrase of what has become the canon of non-Orthodox Jewish liberalism in our time.

It is the "modernized" and contemporary "reinterpretation" of "Jewish ethics" as defined and inculcated by much of the Reform and Conservative movements.  It is also the "theology" of Jewish radical leftist groups operating at the fringes of the Jewish community, including the "Renewal/ALEPH" movement, the "Eco-Judaism" groups, the "Tikkun community" of people and groups that are satellites to the magazine by that same name published by tikkun-activist Michael Lerner, and what remains of the "Reconstructionists."  Lerner, it should be added, discovers "repair of the world" even in LSD consumption.

What are we to make of "Tikkun Olam" proclamations?

The most important thing that must be understood about the Tikkun Olam catechism in the United States is that each and every sentence in the above proclamation is false.

First of all, there is no such thing as a mitzvah or commandment of "Tikkun Olam."   Jews are nowhere commanded to "repair the world."  In all the authoritative or traditional compilations of the commandments of Judaism, none list "Tikkun Olam".  The expression itself does not appear anywhere in the Torah or in the entire Bible.

Those assimilationist liberals who insist that the entire "ethics of the Prophets" can be reduced to the pursuit of "Tikkun Olam" have to explain why none of the Books of the Prophets use the term.  "Tikkun Olam" is used sporadically in the Talmud, but as a technical term for resolution of certain judicial problems that arise before rabbinic courts.

The only place the expression appears in Jewish prayer is in the "Aleinu" and there it clearly has nothing at all to do with social justice.  In the "Aleinu," Tikkun Olam is explicitly explained in the prayer text itself as the quest to eliminate pagan superstition and to see God's rule of the universe implemented. It is a theological concept, not a social, political or environmental one.
It is in the interest of Americans and Jews alike, and in the interest of anyone who values either history or the truth, to continue to expose these "assimilationist liberals" for the liars that they are, and to reject their self-serving, ahistorical, revisionist falsehoods. This post also demonstrates why a broad-spectrum Alt-Right is more effective, and informed, than a narrow-gauge, white American-only Alt-Right.

UPDATE: Lies have ALREADY appeared about this post on Twitter. They are truly People of the Lie.

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195 Comments:

Anonymous 5343 August 30, 2016 5:05 AM  

Everyone now, "SJWs (and plenty of other groups with agendas) always WHAT?"

Blogger RmaxGenactivePUA Mgtow August 30, 2016 5:11 AM  

This is the playbook of the Jew: rob the goyim blind then blame them for being irresponsible. Ie. Subprime lending scams, where they stole millions of homes by crashing the housing market.

Seriously. Live more modestly. Why? At this point in history, we should be able to live incredibly comfortably working a 20 hour week, or even not at all. But we can’t even have a home and a car working 60 hours a week because these Jews stole all of our money and then flooded us with foreigners so we have no possibility of ever regaining our wealth as a nation.

Blogger Stilicho August 30, 2016 5:15 AM  

Oh what a tangled web (((they))) create, to avoid any need to assimilate.

Blogger Sherwood family August 30, 2016 5:21 AM  

So the question becomes: When did the concept of "Tikkun Olam" in its present form first appear and who propagated it throughout the ranks of Diaspora Jews to such an extent that it is now seen as a commandment?

Anyone who could trace the decent of this idea and its change from the "Aleinu" and its limited technical meaning into a driving but amorphous ideology used to justify the progressive pursuit of "Cosmic Justice" (to use Thomas Sowell's term) would be doing us all a big favor.

Knowing the process by which this concept was transmogrified into the raison d'etre of so much progressive wickedness would help us defang the thing and render it, if not wholly impotent, at least weaker.

Anonymous PAC August 30, 2016 5:35 AM  

Your Jewish reader's quote is hilariously deceptive.

Tikkun olam as it is expressed in the aleinu is a commitment to stamp out Christianity, which Jews constantly deride as pagan polytheism, as well as all other forms of identity that the goyim cattle may latch onto, such as the "false god" of goyim nationalism.

For theirs is the only nationalism worth preserving forever, since it is inscribed in their eternal compact with Yahweh.

Here is the relevant text:

It is our duty to praise the Lord of all things, to ascribe greatness to Him who formed the world in the beginning, since He has not made us like the nations of other lands, and He has not placed us like other families of the earth, since He has not assigned to us a portion as to them, nor a lot as to all their multitude.

(For they worship vain things and emptiness, and pray to a god which cannot save.)

But we bend the knee and bow in worship and acknowledge thanks before the supreme King of kings, the Holy One, blessed be He, Who stretched out the heavens and laid the foundation of the earth, the seat of Whose honor is in the heavens above, and the abode of Whose might is in the loftiest heights.

He is our God; there is none else. In truth He is our King; there is none besides Him. As it is written in His Torah: "And you shall know this day, and lay it to your heart, that the Lord He is God in the heavens above and on the earth below: there is none else."

We therefore put our hope in You, O Lord our God, that we may speedily behold the splendor of Your might, when You will remove the idols from the earth, and the false gods will be utterly cut off.

Blogger Stilicho August 30, 2016 5:36 AM  

I've heard of it being based in part on the scripture referring to the chosen people as a light unto the world. Considerable license has been taken with the original understanding of the term.

Blogger Bodo Staron August 30, 2016 5:37 AM  

"Tikkun Olam". I was looking for exactly that while searching for the reason why some Jews push "social justice" and immigration.
Thank you for that piece of information.

Blogger Sherwood family August 30, 2016 5:44 AM  

A quick Wikipedia search of the term indicates that it saw widespread use in the U.S. following the establishment of the Brandeis-Bardin Camp Istitute founder Schlomo Bardin. The link below gives the highlights of Bardin's life and work and info about the work of the Brandeis-Bardin Camp Institute.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/judaica/ejud_0002_0003_0_02031.html

Anonymous Die Fledermaus August 30, 2016 5:46 AM  

An argument which uses Halachic reasoning, and cites traditional scripture, is useless when applied to most of American Jews. The majority of them are Reform and Conservative Jews. Those faiths are basically 19th century German inventions and have little to do with the original tenants of the faith.

The few true conclaves of Orthodox Jews do not try to assimilate or integrate, and would shudder at the words "Judeo-Christian". They know they are their own nation. They know trying to integrate while also trying to keep a separate identity is a proposition that fails on both fronts.

Blogger VD August 30, 2016 5:46 AM  

Your Jewish reader's quote is hilariously deceptive.

I think your description of the prayer appears to considerably more deceptive than his statements about it. Are you trying to claim that it is genuinely a call to social justice and to materially "heal the world"?

Blogger Leo Littlebook in Shenzhen August 30, 2016 5:48 AM  

Obviously the alt-right is not white American nationalism, because the latter already has serviceable names, and the former is trans-continental.

I think the alt-right is simply internet-era K-selection which has developed an awareness of and immunity to the r-strategists' usual dishonorable game.

By contrast, cuckservatism is K-selection that continues to apply in-group altruism and presumptive honor to r-strategists.

The alt-right is a global K alliance for politico-economic decentralization which developed online in reaction to the MSM global r alliance for politico-economic centralization.

Blogger Sherwood family August 30, 2016 5:48 AM  

It appears that some of the work of the Brandeis-Bardin Camp Institute is carried on by Camp Alonim:

http://www.alonim.com/Default.aspx?id=1425

The section below is taken from the Camp's website under the section entitled "Vision".



Vision

Camp Alonim strives to spark a love for Jewish culture, tradition, and community in our campers by exposing them to a multitude of ways to be Jewish. We see every activity we offer as a “gateway”—a means by which they might engage with being Jewish. By starting with activities a child already enjoys, we can show them how that activity might be Jewish, thereby making it a gateway to a Jewish connection. For example, a camper who brings their electric guitar to camp will learn to play a Hebrew song. A camper who loves to play basketball will learn about Jewish values such as teamwork, humility, and fair play while they are on the court.

Jewish camping has been found to be one of the most effective methods of Jewish education, ensuring a Jewish identity in adulthood. It is so effective because it is a complete immersion experience where Jewish values are lived and modeled by the staff, where the rhythm of the week is anchored by Shabbat, and Jewish culture is brought to life through song, dance, and experiential education.

The field of Experiential Education is characterized by creating experiences for the learner rather than asking them to connect with passively-presented material. When our campers learn about the early days of Israeli history, they spend an evening “sneaking into Palestine.” Our counselors play the British soldiers who in the early 1900s prevented Jews from immigrating. The campers wear all black, they are grouped into “families,” and they must find a way to get past the counselors, who are “armed” with squirt guns, and into the Promised Land. In this way, they are experiencing Israel’s history, rather than reading or hearing about it.

Blogger Sherwood family August 30, 2016 5:58 AM  

It is interesting that they are trying to convey the experience of Israeli history to children rather than vignettes from the Jewish historical experience in the United States.

Blogger Shimshon August 30, 2016 6:05 AM  

You like (((me))), you really like (((me)))!

But seriously...

I think there are two separate strains in Judaism, both pernicious and destructive. But distinct and different.

There is Reform Judaism, which is the SJW strain. Nothing further need really be said. We all know about SJWs. Traditional Jews don't really take the Reformers very seriously. They're JINOs (and today, often not even Jewish, due to rampant intermarriage among their ranks).

The true equivalent to your Churchians (and Cuckservatives) are the so-called "Open Orthodox" types. They preen about being observant (often to the bare minimum letter of the law) in ritual observance (often rote) while embracing falsehoods like feminism, homosexuality, and so forth. These are the really dangerous ones. For many of the same reasons that Churchians are dangerous. I don't know enough about (((Benjy))) or his beliefs to make a categorical statement, but since he likes to wear his religion on his sleeve while taking potshots at people like Trump who take a stand of America First, I wouldn't be surprised if he leans in that direction ideologically (minus the blind spot of nationalism for me but not for thee which these Jews often possess).

Blogger Stilicho August 30, 2016 6:06 AM  

@ 13 more power to them, but don't do that and also claim to be American. They have to choose.

Blogger Lovekraft August 30, 2016 6:14 AM  

The quest for truth is what sets this and other similar blogs apart. Let the legacy media smear it. All they have to do is come here and engage in the discussion.

Taki's Jim Goad (who coined the term alt-right in 2008, according to the article) has a take on the alt-right and it appears he is distancing himself from all the scary bad-think.

http://takimag.com/article/getting_the_alt_right_wrong_jim_goad#axzz4ImCtVGOt

Blogger Sherwood family August 30, 2016 6:15 AM  

There will be no reason to choose unless the choice is forced.

Who is going to give up a core part of their identity so they can try to hang on to another part of it that does not seem to be in any danger?

The proposition nation concept works for them (and many others) which is why attempts to draw peoples' attention to the original intent of the Founders and actual practice during the early years of U.S. history are met with such hostility as it risks forcing that choice on them.

But...and I think that this is the point you are making, please correct me if I am wrong, the vigorous and continuous defense of the proposition nation, especially when deception or historical distortions are used to maintain it, threatens to undermine the historical basis of the United States by making the tent so big and broad that it has no meaning any more and can no longer remain standing.

Blogger VD August 30, 2016 6:18 AM  

You like (((me))), you really like (((me)))!

I've always been pro-Israeli. That's why it's always interesting to see how most US Jews are very reluctant to call me an anti-Semite. Only a few, like (((Ben Shapiro))) are dumb enough to try to do so, but that's only because he's got no ability to do anything else.

And, of course, I don't care if they do. It's abundantly clear that it's only liars making false accusations because they've been caught lying.

Blogger VD August 30, 2016 6:21 AM  

the vigorous and continuous defense of the proposition nation, especially when deception or historical distortions are used to maintain it, threatens to undermine the historical basis of the United States by making the tent so big and broad that it has no meaning any more and can no longer remain standing.

That is one of my points, yes. Except it does not "threaten to undermine it", it already HAS undermined it. The collapse and partition of the USA is pretty much guaranteed at this point, barring the sort of right-wing dictatorship that the Left claims the Trumpenreich would be.

Unless the American people find the steel to return the country to the pre-1965 demographic balance, more or less, the collapse of the US empire is every bit as inevitable as the collapse of the Soviet empire was. Arguably, even more so.

Blogger Sherwood family August 30, 2016 6:22 AM  

One of the beauties of the Alt-Right is the "egalitarian" nature of its nationalism. (I use that word tongue-in-cheek, of course.) By saying that England is for the English, Japan for the Japanese, Ghana for the Ghanaians and Israel for the Israelites it makes it clear that it is not trying to take anything from anyone. It just wants everyone to have what belongs to them without any double standard of "nationalism for me and not for thee" that we see so often and so hypocritically expressed.

Blogger Stilicho August 30, 2016 6:27 AM  

@17 the choice is always forced. Eventually. Because reality intrudes upon the pretty little lies.

Blogger Phillip George August 30, 2016 6:32 AM  

It's worth noting that America inherited all of the Common Law. Ergo, the Bible.

Thou shalt not lie, is not in the Koran. Infact lying to infidels to white wash Muhammadan schemes is considered a virtue.

Rabbinical, satanism, muhammadism. There's a common theme.

Blogger residentMoron August 30, 2016 6:33 AM  

"... the collapse of the US empire is every bit as inevitable as the collapse of the Soviet empire was. Arguably, even more so."

The historical oddity is that the Soviets, as did all empires before them, tried desperately to hold their empire together even as it collapsed of its own internal contradictions, while the US government has for several decades (if not longer) actively worked to destroy its own economic, cultural, and thus military, power.

I'm convinced that one of the reasons sensible people find this so hard to believe is that it is so obviously insane.

Blogger Sherwood family August 30, 2016 6:33 AM  

If it is forced, and this is my concern, it precipitates the very collapse and partition that VD mentions above. I favor a Fabian solution, if possible (and I readily admit it may not be) of deportation of those who are illegal and the creation of incentive structures that help restore the Pre-1965 demographic balance by rewarding fertility in groups whose off-spring will have, on balance, a eu-genic or eu-civic influence and by buying off the fertility of those whose offspring are dysgenic or discivic. Again, that kind of approach may not be possible, but it seems better than civil war and partition.

Blogger Phillip George August 30, 2016 6:33 AM  

Ok. Having a court system with a book that says it's o.k. to lie to infidels if it makes Islam look good. Can anyone common core spot a problem with that?

Blogger VD August 30, 2016 6:34 AM  

Again, that kind of approach may not be possible, but it seems better than civil war and partition.

It is. But it is now too late for that.

Blogger Sherwood family August 30, 2016 6:40 AM  

So the next question, if it is too late to use incentives, is how to maximize the benefit to the "posterity" described by the Founders in the Preamble to the Constitution.

Since the battle is inevitable, how do we seize the initiative and win at the what Lind calls the "moral level" of war?

I mean, you are already doing it, VD, but it is sometimes hard to see how one can help solidify gains you and others are making.

Anonymous Laz August 30, 2016 6:49 AM  

"Who is going to give up a core part of their identity so they can try to hang on to another part of it that does not seem to be in any danger?"

Pretty much every teenager.

Anonymous That Would Be Telling August 30, 2016 6:50 AM  

@5 PAC:

Your Jewish reader's quote is hilariously deceptive.

How about just "polite"?

Of course Jews think Christians are in error, just as the reverse is true, we'd expect nothing less from any particular religion. So he didn't need to rub our noses in that detail.

Blogger Arthur Isaac August 30, 2016 6:53 AM  

For a time I have subscribed to the concept that the (((elite))) actually are Cabalistic in nature, and that they believe they are God incarnate. This has been held up both in my observation of those promoting Tikkun Plan and by the arguments that Karaites tend to have with them. (One example is where they have God speaking of their Rabbi's saying "My sons have outsmarted me." In pride because they realize that the interpretation of the law is left to those that are incarnate in the world.) Karaites have the longest history with this strain of evil and have been persecuted by it the longest.

Also Henry Makow and Michael Hoffman have drilled down on this "egregore" concept to some extent if you can stomach the CT wild eyedness.

On another front this cuckoo thing has seriously fitted with traditional Christian eschatology. Particularly, dispensationalism looks like no bird ever hatched in the Gospel of Jesus Christ's nest.

Once you see the cuckoo's pattern you can't unsee it, or fail to recognize it's eggs on closer examination.

Furthermore, I think this egregore incarnation is nothing less than a many membered (as the body of Christ is described as) body of anti-Christ. We were warned that the spirit of this thing was in operation in the time of the Apostle Paul.

My opinion.

Blogger Todd Stevens August 30, 2016 6:54 AM  

Please remember the Declaration of Independence is not a legal document. It isn't the foundation of our system. The Constitution is, which came over a decade later.

The Declaration was a war time document, which had a propaganda aim: to unite us in war and to, among other things, enlist the aid of the French. The French intellectuals believed a lot of hooey about human equality, and THAT is why our Declaration mentions it. To get their help during a war.

Blogger Skyler the Weird August 30, 2016 6:58 AM  

If you want to know what the Empress Hillary's reign will be like get a copy of Michael Lerner's THE NEW SOCIALIST REVOLUTION from circa 1969.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan August 30, 2016 6:58 AM  

Its obvious the American definition and practice of Tikkun Olam is anti-semetic.

Blogger Arthur Isaac August 30, 2016 6:59 AM  

My bad, the Body of Christ has been persecuted by it the longest. The Karaites I think have been aware of it more clearly and have been actively engaged with it the longest as much of the Church has adopted another Gospel.

Anyway to avoid further hyperbole, the Karaites have been fighting this for a long time and have learned to identify the lies.

Blogger residentMoron August 30, 2016 7:10 AM  

"... dispensationalism looks like no bird ever hatched in the Gospel of Jesus Christ's nest."

Just out of curiosity, do you happen to know where that bird *was* hatched?

Blogger VD August 30, 2016 7:11 AM  

Please remember the Declaration of Independence is not a legal document. It isn't the foundation of our system. The Constitution is, which came over a decade later.

As someone pointed out earlier, the DoI has, technically, been incorporated as law in the US legal code. That being said, the Supreme Court does not recognize it as such.

Although the Declaration of Independence stands with the Constitution as a founding document of the United States of America, its position in U.S. law is much less certain than that of the Constitution. The Declaration has been recognized as the founding act of law establishing the United States as a sovereign and independent nation, and Congress has placed it at the beginning of the U.S. Code, under the heading "The Organic Laws of the United States of America." The Supreme Court, however, has generally not considered it a part of the organic law of the country. For example, although the Declaration mentions a right to rebellion, this right, particularly with regard to violent rebellion, has not been recognized by the Supreme Court and other branches of the federal government. The most notable failure to uphold this right occurred when the Union put down the rebellion by the Southern Confederacy in the Civil War.

Blogger Michael Maier August 30, 2016 7:19 AM  

Vox: " My family even celebrated Independence Day 1976 in Lexington, Massachusetts. "

Small world.

I barely remember it, but I was a few miles up Route 4 at the "Pole Capping" Bicentennial ceremony at Bedford. My dad's dad carried a musket for the town on the 4th and 4/19, though I don't know if he did so way back then.

Blogger Arthur Isaac August 30, 2016 7:34 AM  

Just out of curiosity, do you happen to know where that bird *was* hatched?

(((Counter-Reformation Marrano Jesuits))), Lacunza to be precise and later Ribera. I don't have my full resource library available so I'm doing a lot from memory.

A good primer on the traditional Church eschatology called "Covenant" vs dispensationalism is Kelly Varner's "Whose Right it Is".

Protestants John Darby and CI Scofield later adopted it and Scofield got (((funding))) for what became Dallas Theological Seminary. The Masonic elements of the Southern Baptist convention quickly adopted it and most Evangelical and Pentecostal eventually followed suit. Essentially they credentialed the pastors and took possession of the pulpits thereby.

Blogger Michael Maier August 30, 2016 7:35 AM  

"For example, although the Declaration mentions a right to rebellion, this right, particularly with regard to violent rebellion, has not been recognized by the Supreme Court and other branches of the federal government. The most notable failure to uphold this right occurred when the Union put down the rebellion by the Southern Confederacy in the Civil War.

Covered by the 9th & 10th. Oh wait, SCROTUM doesn't know what those are, how silly of me.

Blogger Arthur Isaac August 30, 2016 7:42 AM  

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Blogger Johnny August 30, 2016 7:43 AM  

>> It is the defining mission of Jews to strive for the repair of the world by making society more just, fair, egalitarian, and sensitive.

The thing about this Jewish save the world bit is that it cannot be accomplished unless they are in charge. With that understood it is really the basis for a power grab; we should be in charge because we are better than you are is what they are actually saying.

We should not be surprised also that Jews convert easily to communism. As defined by Marx it is a secular version of the same thing. Under Marx a secular social elite, the Communists, are the ones who should come to power owing to their superior understanding of history. And again the asserted goal is a moral utopia of sorts.

Blogger Arthur Isaac August 30, 2016 7:45 AM  

Credentialism is this cuckoo's cloaca.

Blogger William Meisheid August 30, 2016 7:47 AM  

Re: Unless the American people find the steel to return the country to the pre-1965 demographic balance, more or less, the collapse of the US empire is every bit as inevitable as the collapse of the Soviet empire was. Arguably, even more so.

I would think that is the point that the PTB have been pushing for some time. Dilute the core until it can no longer sustain the whole and then take over what is left.

Blogger Johnny August 30, 2016 7:51 AM  

To restate the Declaration of Independence: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

What needs to be understood is that when this was written the European societies were divided up into classes with different rules for different groups. The major thrust of this declaration is to declare these class barriers invalid. In that context, “all men are created equal” translates not to a reference to genetics but an assertion of equality before the law.

Blogger Gaiseric August 30, 2016 7:54 AM  

I don't think it's necessary to assign particularly malicious intent to American Jewry—or rather, I don't think it's necessary to assume some particular fiendish masterminded plot behind their actions. Although no doubt it would stroke their egos to imagine that their enemies imagine them as such.

It's amazing to me how well the actions of American Jewry (collectively) mimic that of a low self-esteem, bitchy, controlling woman; trying to rewrite events where they are always the victim of everything throughout the Diaspora, trying to rewrite events where they fit in and belong in America, and always trying to rewrite events where they were somehow involved in everything important that ever happened.

And the Anglo-Saxon has reliably acted like the hapless, clueless Delta man who doesn't see or get what's going on around him, being hen-pecked and accepting it because it never occurs to him that he can do otherwise, but slowly building up more resentment over time in the background. I don't think the actions of American Jewry are the result of anything other than the natural, even subconscious, actions of that personality.

The Anglo-Saxon as a low-assertiveness delta male and the Jew as a high assertiveness, bitchy female is a particularly toxic combination over the long-term.

I wonder if that is kind of a Middle-Eastern cultural paradigm. In some ways, the Mohammedan has similar personality traits collectively with regards to its interaction with other cultures, although in that case it's much more short-term crazy rather than simply lingering self-consciousness and bitchiness.

Anonymous Bobby Farr August 30, 2016 7:56 AM  

The remarkable thing isn't that these jews espouse such repugnant ideas, which have been standard fare for the left for generations, but that they market themselves as "conservatives" and apparently even consider themselves to be on the right. It is amazing that the American right, which was significantly nativistic and isolationist up to WW2, so quickly morphed into an anti-native, imperial movement with foreigners as its most prominent spokesmen.

Blogger Gaiseric August 30, 2016 7:56 AM  

Johnny wrote:We should not be surprised also that Jews convert easily to communism. As defined by Marx it is a secular version of the same thing. Under Marx a secular social elite, the Communists, are the ones who should come to power owing to their superior understanding of history. And again the asserted goal is a moral utopia of sorts.
Well naturally. Because you should have written that as (((Karl Marx))).

Blogger Arthur Isaac August 30, 2016 7:58 AM  


The Anglo-Saxon as a low-assertiveness delta male and the Jew as a high assertiveness, bitchy female is a particularly toxic combination over the long-term.


God describes her as a whore, He doesn't have a problem being properly assertive.

Blogger VD August 30, 2016 8:04 AM  

It is amazing that the American right, which was significantly nativistic and isolationist up to WW2, so quickly morphed into an anti-native, imperial movement with foreigners as its most prominent spokesmen.

Thank Buckley. Then once (((one))) got in, they promptly went to work bringing in the others. How do you think (((Ben Shapiro))) got all his gigs. I'll have to look it up, but he wasn't in the 20 most-read columnists on WND.

Nevertheless, he was syndicated by Creators Syndicate. Over 30 percent of the conservative media is Jewish, which is a complete joke considering how few Jews are conservative. It is a model of nepotistic entryism. And the people they expel, the Buchanans, the Coulters, and the Steyns, far outperform them in every way.

Blogger dc.sunsets August 30, 2016 8:04 AM  

Religion is just the foil. The people-controllers will use every lever, every opening to obtain the people's consent to be their slaves.

When someone speaks of a Utopian project (heal the world, save the sick, feed the hungry, etc.) and tries to enlist your efforts and consent, grab your wallet and either retreat or simply (better Darwinism) shoot them.

Blogger dc.sunsets August 30, 2016 8:11 AM  

Carl Watner nailed it decades ago. The most we can ever do to "improve the world" is improve ourselves. The moment someone speaks of improving someone else, they have crossed the line into evil.

Here, in the Time of the Apogee of Political Organization of Mankind, every breath we take is contaminated with political machination.

The only good news is, in this age of Twitter, etc., when the Personal is All Political, we will know our enemies by their own words. They will not leave us alone, so sure are they in our "need" of their tinkering in our minds. When the Phase Change comes, attempts at such tinkering will provide an easy system for targeting.

Blogger dc.sunsets August 30, 2016 8:24 AM  

Regarding the Dec. of Ind., are we not simply heaping one obfuscation on layers of prior obfuscation?

The Whigs in Parliament of that time were largely in favor of the rebellion. There is so much open BS about the "founding" of the USA, no one seems to notice that like every revolution, it was (1) serving a certain set of interests and (2) doomed without considerable support among its ostensible opponents. I consider the American Revolution a 1st order effect of a conflict that actually raged in England. In North America, the Whigs won "independence." In England, the aristocracy was weakened by degree until overt Fabian (social democracy) removed the testes of the English and yielded the Leftist/Cuck/Matriarchy we now see in the British Isles.

It was all of ONE PIECE.

England's Crown gave the rebellious citizens everything they asked for, and still they demanded more (while not recognizing a single concession.) The per capita wealth of American colonists was significantly higher than their peers in England...yet their leaders demanded more, and went to war over it.

Doesn't that sound familiar?

All of history is a fable taught to kids to keep them in the dark about the real system, invisible at all times, that parasitically sits athwart the shoulders of the productive.

Today's (((narrative))) is the modern incarnation of this fable, that's all. Yes, it's a lie. No, there isn't truth that underlies it. It's lies, all the way down.

Blogger Johnny August 30, 2016 8:29 AM  

At the founding of the United States there was an assimilation of sorts. It was mainly British along with a German minority, surely brought in in part because the British Crown was German. Plus there was a scattering of Scotch-Irish folk, mostly on the frontier. That was the melting pot, essentially all Northern European and almost all protestant.
They had an enthusiasm to settle the interior because the original thirteen colonies were too weak to hold up will if attacked by one of the then predatory European powers. Thus they had an easy immigration policy, but by intent it favored protestant Northern Europeans. Catholics and Southern Europeans were let in only with reluctance. The net result of this produced a collection of people who got along reasonably well and could abide a similar culture, the primarily British one.

And now alas, we are screwing it up with groups that don’t fit in and don’t want to fit in. We have already lost a good deal of the “domestic tranquility” and may well be headed for political instability, with the now assured higher levels of corruption brought on by the political class playing the various groups against each other.

Anonymous JAG August 30, 2016 8:39 AM  

Blue Meanie ‏@BlueMeanie4
@voxday displays general cluelessness and paranoia re. Jews #Zionism #AltRight


If this is who I think it is then he is a an SJW former professional wrestler. I cannot stand this prick as I have had posting exchanges on another forum with him. He's as SJW as it gets so his response is no surprise.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Blue_Meanie

He's even had the shit beat out of him by right leaning Justin Bradshaw, no doubt because he's an SJW douche bag.

Anonymous Ezekiel Cassandros August 30, 2016 8:41 AM  

JWs Always Lie.

Blogger JaimeInTexas August 30, 2016 8:43 AM  

Bobby Farr:
Google
nstances of Use of United States Armed Forces Abroad, 1798 - 2015

This document is updated annually for the uSA Congress.

These uSA had not been isolationist since the its birth in 1788.

Blogger JaimeInTexas August 30, 2016 8:44 AM  

Instances of Use of United States Armed Forces Abroad, 1798 - 2015

Anonymous Jean-Jacques Burnel August 30, 2016 8:49 AM  

the Buchanans?

Blogger JaimeInTexas August 30, 2016 8:49 AM  

It is wiki but it gives you a quick overview.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_United_States_military_operations

Anonymous Bobby Farr August 30, 2016 8:51 AM  

VD @49 The degeneracy of the right seems to have mirrored and run in pace with the decay of the US as a whole, which is odd since one would have expected it to function as a pro-native, Coolidge-esque opposition. At least some of the changes seem to pre-date Buckley - e.g. the isolationists were no longer relevant by the end of WW2. I keep going over the timeline trying to figure out what went wrong and when. It may be as simple as that the Depression and WWII turned Americans into statist-imperialists, this trend was exacerbated by refugee/pre-1924 Act infiltration, particularly of government and academia, and the conservative establishment ran left chasing after the public's response to these factors rather than fighting them.

Blogger JaimeInTexas August 30, 2016 8:58 AM  

There were enough Germans that there was controversy regarding the translation of Federal laws into German. The propsed law failed.

Blogger Solaire Of Astora August 30, 2016 9:01 AM  

Of course Jews think this way. They read prophecies about the salvation of the messiah and since they don't believe in Christ it's not a leap for them to see the fulfillment of that as their duty.

Blogger CM August 30, 2016 9:03 AM  

Its essentially the role of the promised messiah whose advent has been forsaken in hopelessness being cast upon human beings.

This is not your job.

Blogger JaimeInTexas August 30, 2016 9:04 AM  

Was the Spanish-American War isolationism? Panama's Inpendence? Hawaii? World War 1?

And, there many other instances prior 1898 all over the world, especially in the Caribbean area and Central and South Americas.

Blogger SemiSpook37 August 30, 2016 9:08 AM  

@36

So, VD, you're talking about the following points of American polity (emphasis mine):

1. We hold these truths to be self-evident,
2. that all men are created equal,
3. that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
4. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,
5. That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it,
6. and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.


I personally think that points 5 and 6 are long overdue to be executed, as it's clear the current form of government we exist under isn't working for everyone as it was intended. Then again, by the time of Jackson's administration, the Founders had realized things weren't exactly working as they should have, either.

I find it interesting that it's these particular points that the supreme Court doesn't find to be binding. Wonder why that is?

Blogger frigger611 August 30, 2016 9:09 AM  

A very compelling post. So compelling, in fact, it got me off my ass to finally purchase Cuckservative.

Blogger Robert Divinity August 30, 2016 9:16 AM  

These are the really dangerous ones. For many of the same reasons that Churchians are dangerous.

Templeian?

Jewishian?

There needs to be a name for it.

Anonymous Bobby Farr August 30, 2016 9:20 AM  

@56 I would distinguish military actions on the borders of the US as its population grew and spread from imperialism per se. These actions were motivated by nationalism, not imperialism - i.e. they were expanding the homeland for natives, rather than creating areas where an American minority would rule over foreigners. For example, the US refused to take heavily populated regions of Mexico after winning the Mexican War, instead only taking sparsely populated northern territories, and deported Indians outside of areas it conquered.

Aside from these sorts of military actions, you primarily see actions against pirates and minor instances of gun boat diplomacy until the Spanish American War (aside from Hawaii). And we were talking about the right wing in the US, not the US as a whole. Conservative opposition delayed US entry into WWI and WWII despite a warmongering leftist President. It was only after WW2 that the right stopped being this opposition and embraced interventionism and foreign entanglements.

Blogger Cecil Henry August 30, 2016 9:21 AM  

Jews seek revolution to destroy the world they don;t control. ITs so basic to their outlook:

See: 'The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit and its impact on World History' by E Michael Jones.

Blogger Gaiseric August 30, 2016 9:43 AM  

JaimeInTexas wrote:There were enough Germans that there was controversy regarding the translation of Federal laws into German. The propsed law failed.
At the time of the Revolution, ethnic Germans only made up about 8-9% of the population of the Colonies. Another 3.5% or so were Dutch. Many of those "Germans" were Low German speaking, being closer linguistically and culturally to the Dutch than to what we would consider "German" today. There weren't really a ton of them in America.

Blogger residentMoron August 30, 2016 9:43 AM  

@SemiSpook37

You wrote:

"
1. We hold these truths to be self-evident,
2. that all men are created equal,
3. that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
"

What few people stop to consider is that point 3 is an elucidation of point 2, it expands on and lists the *ways* in which all men are equal:

- they are all endowed with certain unalienable rights,
- among these are
- Life itself
- Liberty
- pursuit of happiness.

That's it. There MAY be more but the founders didn't consider themselves wise or knowledgeable enough to be more confident than of these three.

There's no right to free education, universal healthcare, more crackbabies than you can shake a crack pipe at, or anything else.

You, as a human being, of whatever, race, creed, or other category, have the unalienable right to life, to liberty, and to pursue happiness.

That's all she wrote.

Blogger Gaiseric August 30, 2016 9:47 AM  

JaimeInTexas wrote:Was the Spanish-American War isolationism? Panama's Inpendence? Hawaii? World War 1?

And, there many other instances prior 1898 all over the world, especially in the Caribbean area and Central and South Americas.

First, yes—Imperialism started with the Whigs and Lincoln was its early culmination. It certainly extended through the Presidencies of McKinnley, the Progressive era presidents and what not right up until WW2. But in that time, there was a marked difference between the preference of the soi-disant elite and the people. It wasn't until after WW2 that imperialism became mainstream in America. America was dragged into Imperialism against her will by a combination of brow-beating, machination, and outright lies told over decades by political elitists who were already foreshadowing the globalist paradigm who had different priorities than the American people.

A quick and dirty survey of the field can be found in Reassessing the Presidency published by the von Mises Institute. You can even get it (in pdf form) for free.

https://mises.org/library/reassessing-presidency-1

Blogger S1AL August 30, 2016 9:49 AM  

One other perversion of terminology that gets no attention is the redefinition of "social justice". In its original form this meant the due legal recompense for wrongdoing - rape, theft, murder, kidnapping, etc. It was "social" only in that it was distinct from "divine justice", a la "vengeance is mine, I will repay".

Anonymous andon August 30, 2016 9:53 AM  

2. Blogger RmaxGenactivePUA Mgtow August 30, 2016 5:11 AM
This is the playbook of the Jew: rob the goyim blind then blame them for being irresponsible


get rich in the goyim's country then blame them for having "white privilege"

Anonymous Northern Observer August 30, 2016 9:56 AM  


- the connection between [the United Colonies] and the State of Great Britain
- the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages
- large Armies of foreign Mercenaries
- the present King of Great Britain
- the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners
- the free System of English Laws
- our Brittish brethren


I'm not sure if any of these go against idea that the early, and even proto, United States was group of English colonies, with English laws, and with a large English majority (in most areas) that allowed people of different nationalities (all European to be sure) to settle among them as full citizens.

Even a Hessian would likely have not needed to hide his background.

Blogger Shimshon August 30, 2016 9:58 AM  

@67 Robert, they like to pose as tradition-minded and respectful of the mesorah (unlike the Reformers, who have long since given up that pretense). But they never to cease to shit on the same tradition. They ordain female rabbis (only, they give them different titles like "rabbah"), they push for more and more inclusion of women in services, and so forth. They also encourage a homosexual identity (entirely apart from recognizing its existence). All with a halachic sheen (See! Obscure Rabbi X in the Talmud supports us." Even though said opinion was never considered, even then, authoritative.)

Traditional Jews don't take the Reformers seriously today, especially in Israel (except for the SJW minority here, the attitude is universally, "the synagogue I don't attend is Orthodox"). They have made virtually zero headway in Israel despite decades of agitation. But because OO types are still nominally Orthodox, they are taken seriously by people.

A good mocking name is definitely called for. But those two don't work rhetorically.

Blogger #7139 August 30, 2016 9:59 AM  

...barring the sort of right-wing dictatorship that the Left claims the Trumpenreich would be.

At this point, I'm starting to favor the right-wing dictatorship. I don't think Trump will do it, though.

Anonymous nil August 30, 2016 10:00 AM  

Your characterization of Israel Zangwill's play is very unfair and inaccurate. The message of The Melting Pot is essentially white nationalist, in that it claims the interbreeding between different white ethnicities will create a superior race. When Zangwill writes "he will be the fusion of all the races", he's obviously referring to the various European types, and it wouldn't have even been conceivable for people at the time to believe otherwise.

Moreover, and this is key, the publication of The Melting Pot was the result of mass immigration, not its cause. Zangwill was merely describing a process that had been ongoing since America was founded. There had already been talking of immigrants "melting" for decades.

Blogger Chris Mallory August 30, 2016 10:02 AM  

@53 There was very little immigration to the US between 1790 and 1840. The Scots Irish outnumbered the Germans in 1790.

Blogger praetorian August 30, 2016 10:12 AM  

You like (((me))), you really like (((me)))!

Jews in favor of white homelands are our friends. We return the courtesy, with thanks.

Jews opposed to them are our enemies. We oven them.

Simple.

Anonymous Bobby Farr August 30, 2016 10:13 AM  

@78 In other words, Zangwill only differed from modern day assimilationists by arguing for destruction of the natives through interbreeding with other whites rather than with all other ethnic groups.

Blogger Stilicho August 30, 2016 10:20 AM  

@45 that's why WGTOW (whites going their own way) scares the hell out of them (and other parasite groups, to be fair). How would they survive without an enabling host to prey upon?

@67 it's called the Synagogue of Satan.

Anonymous BGKB August 30, 2016 10:22 AM  

about American history in order to retroactively write their (((tribe))) into it

But they are a part of US history. They owned the slave boats and ran the slave auctions.

chosen people as a light unto the world. Considerable license has been taken with the original understanding of the term

Perhaps you are confusing it with jewish lightning

show them how that activity might be Jewish, thereby making it a gateway to a Jewish connection. For example, a camper who likes football can practice with Jerry Sandusky and Graham Spanier.

Blogger James August 30, 2016 10:23 AM  

The perceptual sleight of hand with the DOI and all men being Created equal would be the illogical leap that says that therefore all men, women, and children have an equal right to live on the Magic Dirt of America.

Anonymous Joe Blowe August 30, 2016 10:25 AM  

The most important line in the Declaration of Independence is the very first line:

"When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another..."

All men might have unalienable rights but they aren't all one people. Foreigners, Indians, and African slaves were not considered part of the American polity even when living among us.

This was also written by Jefferson -

"Nothing is more certainly written in the book of fate than that these people [blacks] are to be free. Nor is it less certain that the two races, equally free, cannot live in the same government. Nature, habit, opinion has drawn indelible lines of distinction between them." --Thomas Jefferson: Autobiography, 1821. ME 1:72

Blogger JaimeInTexas August 30, 2016 10:26 AM  

We disagree that the western expansion is not imperialism. And deploying troops in foreign soil that cotrol that foreign country on behalf of private enterprise is imperialism. Not a thoroughly fleshout in the open as in Filipino-American war but it is still there.

Blogger JaimeInTexas August 30, 2016 10:27 AM  

Enough to cause a stirr.

Blogger Gaiseric August 30, 2016 10:30 AM  

Shimshon wrote... the attitude is universally, "the synagogue I don't attend is Orthodox").
Heh. The same is true in Latin American civilization. The church I don't attend is Catholic. That same might have been true in America many decades ago; the church I don't attend is mainline Protestant.

This is, of course, part of the problem—when religion degenerates into just being part of the cultural tapestry of identity rather than something that is actually taken seriously. Certainly I blame the decline of America in large degree on that.

Anonymous andon August 30, 2016 10:30 AM  

> 64. Blogger JaimeInTexas August 30, 2016 9:04 AM
Was the Spanish-American War isolationism? Panama's Inpendence? Hawaii? World War 1?

And, there many other instances prior 1898 all over the world, especially in the Caribbean area and Central and South Americas.


did you find anything about the Apaches vs the mejicanos yet?

Blogger Johnny August 30, 2016 10:34 AM  

@75 Even a Hessian would likely have not needed to hide his background.

Hesians were easily acceptable. In the revolutionary war the Brits learned the hard way that their army became smaller when they had Hessian troops in the German speaking Pennsalyvania Dutch area.

@77...barring the sort of right-wing dictatorship that the Left claims the Trumpenreich would be.

@77At this point, I'm starting to favor the right-wing dictatorship. I don't think Trump will do it, though.

If we are at all lucky Trump will be a real ball buster for the left. All he has to do is to start prosecuting crime, and given his temperament I suspect he will.

Plus given current conditions a hopefully benign dictatorship would be an improvement, best done covertly as the left is now trying to do.

Anonymous andon August 30, 2016 10:36 AM  

83. Anonymous BGKB August 30, 2016 10:22 AM
about American history in order to retroactively write their (((tribe))) into it

But they are a part of US history. They owned the slave boats and ran the slave auctions.


I listen to an hour long audio off YouTube by a Dr. Tony Martin, a black professor who seems to be an expert on slavery and he says the only group that refuses to take responsibility for their part in the North Atlantic slave trade - is the jews.

Blogger rumpole5 August 30, 2016 10:43 AM  

What about the assimilation of the non English American white population? Ben Franklin expressed alarm at the characteristics on the Germans (my ancestors) who flooded into Pennsylvania in the 1700s. He was right to be concerned. Germans were predisposed to suffer despotic princes, and had other character deficits. The waves of shanty Irish, ignorant southern Italians, Pollacks, Hungarian s and so on, were even worse. The presence of them and their descendants have all degraded the "ordered liberty" English culture that produced the constitution. On the other hand, my ancestors were the first settlers of their areas of Pennsylvania, Ohio, Maryland and Indiana. They cut the virgin trees, drained swamps, and plowed the first furrows. My ancestors fought in the revolution, the war of 1812, the Civil War, and the First World War. My great grandfather was named after George Washington. I may be of almost 100% German extraction, but I certainly have a valid claim by birth and heritage to the title "American" as any English.

Anonymous LES August 30, 2016 10:46 AM  

Judaism 101

What Will the Mashiach Do?
Before the time of the mashiach, there shall be war and suffering (Ezekiel 38:16)
The mashiach will bring about the political and spiritual redemption of the Jewish people by bringing us back to Israel and restoring Jerusalem (Isaiah 11:11-12; Jeremiah 23:8; 30:3; Hosea 3:4-5). He will establish a government in Israel that will be the center of all world government, both for Jews and gentiles (Isaiah 2:2-4; 11:10; 42:1). He will rebuild the Temple and re-establish its worship (Jeremiah 33:18). He will restore the religious court system of Israel and establish Jewish law as the law of the land (Jeremiah 33:15).

Anonymous andon August 30, 2016 10:48 AM  

82. Blogger Stilicho August 30, 2016 10:20 AM
@45 that's why WGTOW (whites going their own way)


I never heard that one. sounds good

OpenID gnossoss August 30, 2016 10:48 AM  

I don't understand the idea that stating that you believe all men have certain rights is the same as signing up to provide those rights to them. To me it seems totally in line with "for ourselves and our posterity" -- we believe all men should have these rights, and therefore we will secure them for our people, the only people for whom we can do so.

It seems that the Founders had a perfectly reasonable perspective. If they encountered a Somali or a Chinese who said "I believe in those principles too!" I would imagine that rather than saying "You're an American too!" they would say "Great! We wish you great fortune in securing the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness for your own people!"

Anything else is madness. Surely there could be no state which could secure life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness for Europeans, Africans and Asians. It's proven hard enough to provide them only to posterity. If there was to be a state which could provide them to Africans, it would surely be very different than the US.

Blogger SemiSpook37 August 30, 2016 10:48 AM  

@71

Wow, way to miss my point. The first three points I listed have been beaten well beyond death for whatever purposes. I listed them because they, in turn, support the other three points. The ones I highlighted are the ones we need to be dealing with!!!

A government has been established by the People to support the pursuits of life, liberty, and happiness, regardless of what those pursuits are expected to be. We're well past the point where a correction rightly needs to take place, both in terms of clearing out the crap that is endemic in the current system, as well as reorienting the basic government to the pursuits listed above. It's pretty simple to understand:

Ideally, this should have been a legislative AND civic adjustment executed decades ago. It's slowly looking like a violent conflict may be the only alternative left to fall back on. I hope that's ultimately not the case, but if you look around, it's not looking good.

Blogger Johnny August 30, 2016 10:54 AM  

@95 It is a mistake to take this stuff too literally. Societies often run on what amount to assumed truths, things that are accepted as true whether they happen to be or not. Our current PC stuff is overload with it. Typically the purpose is to drive social policy.

Blogger Johnny August 30, 2016 11:00 AM  

@92 I tend to think of myself as German although I am actually about half German. On the rare occasion I get into looking at the Germans in Europe, my impression is that they have a collectivist bent that I do not share.

Going by current genetic studies the Brits are about (I forget exactly) 75% Celtic, and maybe 25% German. Thus strongly related to the Scotch and Irish and not some much to the Germans.

Anonymous Gen. Kong August 30, 2016 11:00 AM  

You learn something new every day on this blog. The entire Tikkun Olam lie would appear to have at least two purposes:

1. Give a type of moral - or divinely-mandated command - justification for enslaving the world. Think of the old 'White Man's Burden' schtick on steroids.

2. Keep the rank and file Jews who might have misgivings about all the slaughter and mayhem which has resulted from such utopian "healing" in the ranks. Note how even George Soros, whose family fortune was founded by his father's collaboration with the Nazis and looting their estates once shipped away, is rarely criticized (and then only mildly) by other Jews. Soros was practicing "Tikkun Olam" I suppose.

Blogger JaimeInTexas August 30, 2016 11:15 AM  

There is plenty to be said. Your point? We are in the context of these uSA and our posterity.
We are not dealing with the Estados Unidos De Mexico.

Anonymous andon August 30, 2016 11:27 AM  

did you find something inconvenient?

I like to go down to mejico, pretend im a mejicano and then complain about all the illegal aliens invading the USA

how do you think that goes over?

Anonymous damntull August 30, 2016 11:37 AM  

My interpretation of "all men are created equal" is that we reject the idea of blood line nobility, with its attendant titles and privileges. Nothing more than that.

Blogger Arthur Isaac August 30, 2016 11:37 AM  

A thought experiment: how does a group gain influence? Specifically, how does a minority become opinion leaders and how do they gatekeep to prevent themselves from being dislodged once in place. There are only a couple of models that work out logically.

Anonymous VFM #6306 August 30, 2016 11:38 AM  

Complete lies that Zangwill was talking about white nationalism:

"There she lies, the great Melting Pot--listen! Can't you hear the roaring and the bubbling? There gapes her mouth [_He points east_]--the harbour where a thousand mammoth feeders come from the ends of the world to pour in their human freight. Ah, what a stirring and a seething! Celt and Latin, Slav and Teuton, Greek and Syrian,--black and yellow-" VERA: "Jew and Gentile-" DAVID: "Yes, East and West, and North and South, the palm and the pine, the pole and the equator, the crescent and the cross--how the great Alchemist melts and fuses them with his purging flame! Here shall they all unite to build the Republic of Man and the Kingdom of God. Ah, Vera, what is the glory of Rome and Jerusalem where all nations and races come to worship and look back, compared with the glory of America, where all races and nations come to labour and look forward!"

Go to hell, nil. Your lies may do better there.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents August 30, 2016 11:39 AM  

@99
Soros is openly bankrolling much of the political support for migration of colonizers, as well as Only Black Lives Matter, pot initiatives, gun-control initiatives, etc. and so forth.

Yeah, he's totally Tikkuning that whole Olem.

Tribal peoples are always going to be reluctant to criticize a prestigious member of their tribe, it's just tribalism at work.

For years I couldn't understand why Jewish people I knew who claimed to be "by the Book" were also openly accepting of homosexual men, totally "out" gay men, into their festivals and ceremonies. Now that I see between the tribalism, and the substitution of Talmud for Torah, keeping even a weirdo Jew-by-family within the tribe is more important than sticking to the rules God gave them.

This "tribe is more important than God" is all over the Old Testament. It never works out in the long run. I guess the only thing we learn from the history of the Jews is how many Jews don't learn anything from their own history.

Take it away, Shimshon!

Anonymous andon August 30, 2016 11:42 AM  

@ #103 - Arthur Isaac

what's the answer?

Anonymous GreyS August 30, 2016 11:46 AM  

The Protestants fought and oppressed each other so much that nations became necessarily more about allowing people to have whatever personal beliefs as long as they obey public law. The amorphous language of the founders ("self-evident" truths, inalienable rights) is the result of the need for non-exactness to avoid conflict. The separation of faith from public life was meant to keep the peace. It worked great at first because the nation was homogeneous. But the disagreements led to attempts at secular moral philosophy which was incoherent and then once you bring in new people with different agendas and different ideas about beliefs and morality, that vagueness and "you have your beliefs, I have mine" became an Achilles heel for the nation.

Can't blame it all on (((others))) though. We can already see those "Christian" philosophers of the 17/18th throwing off their faith in the pursuit of naturalism and see regular Christian citizens letting go of their faith as they pursued wealth.

Blogger Rabbi B August 30, 2016 11:55 AM  

The OP is spot on. It's not Judaism or the Torah that needs "repair" or "reform", it's the Jew.

The (((geniuses))) who thought Judaism and the Torah was in need of Reform were anxious and willing to forfeit and throw off the yoke of the Torah and our Torah obligations in the hopes of being accepted by the nations around us to where we had been exiled, and hoped to secure for themselves opportunities from which they were barred, opportunities which were more important than serving G-d and walking in His ways.

Oh, and why were we exiled? Was it not because we had forsaken the Torah and our G-d, the spring of living water and dug our own cisterns, broken cisterns that cannot hold water? (cf. Jeremiah 2) Yeah, how's that working out for us so far?

Yes, let's "reform" under the false and pious cloak of "Tikkun Olam" while continuing to forsake our G-d, the Torah, and our duty as Jews even more and let us assimilate in the vain hope that the nations will embrace us with open arms, all the while lording it over the nations and demanding special treatment from our gracious hosts, rather than asking ourselves if we are good for the goyim.

As long as we are determined to forsake him and bow down to the false god of "tikkun olam", we should not be too surprised when the nations finally decide to implement a little tikkun olam of their own.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents August 30, 2016 11:57 AM  

@107
The Protestants fought and oppressed each other so much that nations became necessarily more about allowing people to have whatever personal beliefs as long as they obey public law.

This is an ignorant statement.
The Treaty of Westphalia that ended 30 years of religious war in the 17th century gave kings the power to decide religion in their country. Since the English colonists were determined not to have a king, and also not to dissolve into religious warfare, they chose not to have a Church of the United States. That did not deny separate states the right to have a Church of Massachusetts or a Church of South Carolina initially. Because Americans moved more than Europeans, state churches became impractical.

There is no perfect form of government, because all governments are created by imperfect men. There are worse and better forms of government, and a shadowy tyranny is definitely on the "worse" side, even when that tyranny is "for our own good". In fact, especially so.

Blogger JaimeInTexas August 30, 2016 12:00 PM  

No but I admit you lost me.
The Conquista was imperialism and so is Manifest Destiny.

Anonymous andon August 30, 2016 12:08 PM  

so is what's going on now. uninvited, unwelcome

Blogger JaimeInTexas August 30, 2016 12:11 PM  

Andon, am afraid we past each other somewhere.
You somehow think I am in favor of the ongoing immigration, legal or illegal?

Blogger Were-Puppy August 30, 2016 12:20 PM  

Well now, this is something else.

How many factions of globalists are there? Does anyone know?

These TO Jewish faction.
Banksters - Goldman Sachs etc
Commies/Socialists
Crony Capitalist Corporatists - International business
UN/EU/NWO Schemers - North American Union anyone?
Bizzare occultists such as Bohemian Groves
Not sure where Soros and his ilk fits in here.

I'm sure this isn't the half of them.
And I believe that many of them might work cross purpose against each other sometimes.

Blogger Arthur Isaac August 30, 2016 12:26 PM  

@andon, one is credentialism (takes authority). Another is sponsorship (takes money).

Blogger Were-Puppy August 30, 2016 12:31 PM  

@27 Sherwood family

So the next question, if it is too late to use incentives, is how to maximize the benefit to the "posterity" described by the Founders in the Preamble to the Constitution.

Since the battle is inevitable, how do we seize the initiative and win at the what Lind calls the "moral level" of war?

I mean, you are already doing it, VD, but it is sometimes hard to see how one can help solidify gains you and others are making.
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VD has pointed out many things and given us some tools to use. It's up to all of us to put them to use, in furtherance of the goal of survival.

These are just some thoughts.

Try and find a way to strengthen the 3 pillars

- Returning to God or committing more to Him. From recent posts, it sounds like the Church needs to be reclaimed.

- Study of history, I always liked ancient history where i've seen a lot of these signs before. If you know history then you can maybe use that as a tool to help open some more eyes.

- I don't know how to strengthen the European nations other than morally support them. Work toward rooting out the various things which are weakening them.

Blogger Bodichi August 30, 2016 12:35 PM  

@107 GreyS

"The Protestants fought and oppressed each other so much"

Please define what "so much" means and in relation to who or what.

Anonymous GreyS August 30, 2016 12:39 PM  

@109 The very nature of Protestantism is one of fracturing and disagreement. They killed each other by the score and used governmental power to oppress each other. They eventually found it was impossible to codify belief and doctrine because of all the disagreement. Generalization was necessary-- ex moral rules based on the Ten Commandments as opposed to specific Christian beliefs. You had to show your obedience to the state by following it's public moral rules. We see the echoes of this in modern Protestant legalistic understanding of "following the rules" as opposed to imitating Christ.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 30, 2016 12:46 PM  

So, Tikkun Olam is technically NOT about fixing the world, per se, but rather fixing the world by eliminating Christianity?

It certainly fits.

al-Right, it's like Zionism, but for Whites.

Blogger Robert What? August 30, 2016 12:51 PM  

Ok, so I am a third & fourth generation American citizen of Jewish extraction. I identify with and support the alt-Right. But apparently I can never be an "American"? So what does that make me? Incidentally are American born citizens of German or Swedish extraction "Americans"? Or is it only those of English descent?

Blogger jandolin August 30, 2016 12:58 PM  

You have left out (((Horace Kallen))) from the (((Gang of Liars))) From Wikipedia:

"He advanced the ideal that cultural diversity and national pride were compatible with each other and that ethnic and racial diversity strengthened America. His critics pointed out his disingenuousness since, as a Jewish intellectual and member of the Zionist Organization of America, his vision of multicultural America was quite the opposite of his vision of the Jewish state of Israel as a totally Jewish nation. Kallen is credited with coining the term cultural pluralism."

Anonymous Mr. Rational August 30, 2016 12:58 PM  

VD wrote:Unless the American people find the steel to return the country to the pre-1965 demographic balance
Given how large a fraction of the NAMs subsist on welfare payments of one sort or another, simply making those payments available only to those who re-patriate would do that practically overnight.

One can imagine the salutory effect on American families as the sudden openings of jobs and availability of housing in crime-cleansed areas lets the college grads living in basements become independent.

Anonymous Gen. Kong August 30, 2016 1:00 PM  

Were-Puppy wrote:Well now, this is something else.

How many factions of globalists are there? Does anyone know?

These TO Jewish faction.

Banksters - Goldman Sachs etc

Commies/Socialists

Crony Capitalist Corporatists - International business

UN/EU/NWO Schemers - North American Union anyone?

Bizzare occultists such as Bohemian Groves

Not sure where Soros and his ilk fits in here.

I'm sure this isn't the half of them.

And I believe that many of them might work cross purpose against each other sometimes.


I think the oligarchs are fairly unified - and have been so for the past 150-200 years. Some new elements seem to have been coopted into the overall racket in the past century - notably the House of Saud and the Oil-Oligrachs of the Gulf-States. Back to Soros - poster boy for Spawn of Satan, there was a very strange incident a few years back when Glenn Beck (the Cheetoze Jeezus) was at FoxSnooze and (being the true Judeo-Churchian he is), did a report on the origins of the Soros fortune and how it was largely based on asset seizures of his fellow Jews who were carted off by the Nazis. The response was almost immediate: Every Jew organization in Bananaland screamed bloody murder at Ailes and Murdoch from the ADL on down and Beck was kicked off FoxSnooze. Hanging around the blogosphere as long as I have, I think I may have run across only one or two Jews who actually despise Soros and openly state so - most either support him or refuse to speak about him. Kind of like the mafia's omertà it would appear. He owns the Vatican now, and he likely owns Israel as well (though his control there may be less complete than it is of the Catholic Church).

Anonymous andon August 30, 2016 1:00 PM  

@ #112 - no, I notice you keep carping on the history of the U.S.

Blogger Rabbi B August 30, 2016 1:02 PM  

@119 Robert What

Don't worry about it too much. Just put America's interests first and behave yourself.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents August 30, 2016 1:03 PM  

@GreyS 119

@109 The very nature of Protestantism is one of fracturing and disagreement.

The very nature of man is one of fracturing and disagreement.

They killed each other by the score and used governmental power to oppress each other.

Do a search on the 30 years war. Read. Learn. Then maybe we can discuss. Until then, you are arguing from a position of ignorance.

You are also attempting to hijack the thread. Why?

Anonymous andon August 30, 2016 1:04 PM  

114. Blogger Arthur Isaac August 30, 2016 12:26 PM
@andon, one is credentialism (takes authority). Another is sponsorship (takes money).


thanks. maybe others will flesh it out

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents August 30, 2016 1:07 PM  

@122 Gen. Kong

I thought I was the only one who recalled Beck getting slammed over historical facts. Yeah, Soro's fortune started when he was an informer, handing over other Jews to the Nazi's for a cut of the take. The reaction shows the tribal nature of the Jews, especially the Ashkenazim.

One would expect even a tribal people to despise a Judas that profited from turning his own people over to government. One would be wrong, for the most part.

Tribalism. It's something that many don't understand. Paraphrasing Lenin, "You may not be interested in tribal people, but they are interested in you".

Anonymous andon August 30, 2016 1:10 PM  

119. Blogger Robert What? August 30, 2016 12:51 PM
Ok, so I am a third & fourth generation American citizen of Jewish extraction. I identify with and support the alt-Right. But apparently I can never be an "American"?


you sound like you might be an American

Blogger Were-Puppy August 30, 2016 1:16 PM  

@122 Gen. Kong

I think the oligarchs are fairly unified - and have been so for the past 150-200 years. Some new elements seem to have been coopted into the overall racket in the past century - notably the House of Saud and the Oil-Oligrachs of the Gulf-States.
---

How did I forget their rags to riches story?


Back to Soros - poster boy for Spawn of Satan, there was a very strange incident a few years back when Glenn Beck (the Cheetoze Jeezus) was at FoxSnooze and (being the true Judeo-Churchian he is), did a report on the origins of the Soros fortune and how it was largely based on asset seizures of his fellow Jews who were carted off by the Nazis. The response was almost immediate: Every Jew organization in Bananaland screamed bloody murder at Ailes and Murdoch from the ADL on down and Beck was kicked off FoxSnooze. Hanging around the blogosphere as long as I have, I think I may have run across only one or two Jews who actually despise Soros and openly state so - most either support him or refuse to speak about him. Kind of like the mafia's omertà it would appear. He owns the Vatican now, and he likely owns Israel as well (though his control there may be less complete than it is of the Catholic Church).
---

Here's another mystery (for me, at least). I am learning that the Bush family were also involved with finances and the nazis. I wonder if there is a Soros connection there?

Anonymous Gen. Kong August 30, 2016 1:17 PM  

Arthur Isaac:
For a time I have subscribed to the concept that the (((elite))) actually are Cabalistic in nature.

I've noticed this also. It goes into the non-echo segments of the oligarchy as well though, with the considerable references to Babylonian mysteries in the deeper levels of Masonry, with their connections to Skull and Bones, Bavarian Illuminati, etc. Some Egyptian iconography tossed into the devil's brew as well.

Blogger tublecane August 30, 2016 1:24 PM  

Are they self-serving revisionist lies, or are those people ignorant? I've said before that one of the greatest if not the greatest strengths of the alt-right is that the opposition doesn't know us or our arguments. What's more, they aren't aware that they're unaware. What's sad is that they think they are aware, even when they're not.

This is as frustrating as it is encouraging. I like to teach people things, but I also like adult conversations. When your interlocutor has the historical knowledge of a kindergartener, it's discouraging.

They could also be liars. I won't rule that out.

Anonymous Tipsy August 30, 2016 1:26 PM  

I'm curious: did "Judeo-Christian Values" enter common usage at about the same time (mid 60s) when "Happy Holidays" was being marketed over "Merry Christmas"?

Blogger Assyrian Nationalist August 30, 2016 1:28 PM  

Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me twice, shame on me.
Fool me 109 times...well, then.

Anonymous BGKB August 30, 2016 1:28 PM  

only one or two Jews who actually despise Soros and openly state so - most either support him or refuse to speak about him

They realize if they David French kiss his ass, that they can get some of the stolen money.

Given how large a fraction of the NAMs subsist on welfare payments of one sort or another, simply making those payments available

They work under the table and get payments. Daddy wetback works under table ;) , mommy wetback uses fake SSN that everify takes a year to bounce back, & mommy wetback files for child tax credits for 20 wetbacklets. The EITC payment for 20 is more than many EMTs earn in a year.

The very nature of Protestantism is one of fracturing and disagreement.

Luther posted all of the corruptions of the church by (((globalists))) and wrote a book on all their scams.

113 How many factions of globalists are there? Does anyone know?

You are just describing different parts of the (((elephant)))

Anonymous andon August 30, 2016 1:35 PM  

OT: interesting graphic here on normies:

http://imgur.com/0pmH6A8

Blogger tublecane August 30, 2016 1:38 PM  

I thought up a rhetorical device for discouraging use of "Judeo-Christian," though I'm probably not the first. How about every whenever Islam comes up we talk about Judeo-Muslims and Judeo-Muslim values? That would piss off Muslims more, perhaps, but neocons and squishy cons would hate it, too.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 30, 2016 1:39 PM  

Interesting detail.
I half-remembered a G. K. Chesterton quote. I went to look it up, and found it came from an article entitled The Feud of the Foreigner. So I did a search of that title and found that it doesn't exist online. Instead I found only several articles and books using it to argue Chesterton's anti-Semitism, all based on a single quote.

One would think that a giant of clear thought, one of the most popular Catholic writers of all time, whose entire corpus is out of copyright, would have one of his most frequently cited essays, indeed the one used most often to assault his reputation, available online.

But no.

Odd.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 30, 2016 1:57 PM  

BTW, here is the quote used to assert GChesterton's anti-Semitism;
"(the Jew) is a foreigner far more remote from us than is a Bavarian from a Frenchman; he is divided by the same type of division as that between us and a Chinaman or a Hindoo. He not only is not, but never was, of the same race."

Which is obviously true.

Blogger Robert Divinity August 30, 2016 2:00 PM  

One would think that a giant of clear thought, one of the most popular Catholic writers of all time, whose entire corpus is out of copyright, would have one of his most frequently cited essays, indeed the one used most often to assault his reputation, available online.

Odd how that works.

Yesterday I looked for a Wikipedia entry on Nattalee Drexel. It didn't exist. Odd how that works. Maybe someone should start a Brittanee Drexel entry. I haven't looked for Kate Steinle yet, but don't suspect to find one.

Blogger Robert Divinity August 30, 2016 2:01 PM  

*Brittanee

Anonymous Sam the Man August 30, 2016 2:27 PM  

119

I think any Jew can be an American as Yankee-doodle if he puts G-D first, USA second which unfortunately means not putting one's ethnic/tribe identity first, second, maybe a distant third. In practical terms it is very difficult unless one is immersed in American culture to the exclusion of formal Temple life.

I think it is easier for mixed blood (Mischling), as some of the in-group pressures are less and one can look at Oral law (Talmudic) with a more open frame of mind. That is a bit of land mind.

I believe that there is also a number of different cultures within US Judaism that are not recognized outside of the fold and the differnces suppressed within. Not only the orthodox vs. the conservative vs. Reform, or Sephardic vs. Ashkenazi, but I note a difference between the Russian, Polish and German Askenazi. Heck you see a real difference between the immigrants who came from Russian post 1980, who seem a lot less inclined towards dictating their fellow mans improvement than the same ethnic population who came over to the US pre 1924.

Frankly the folks that think all Jews are a monolithic mind set are erecting a straw man that does not reflect reality.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 30, 2016 2:41 PM  

Sam the Man wrote:Frankly the folks that think all Jews are a monolithic mind set are erecting a straw man that does not reflect reality.
Y'all Jews look alike to us Goyim.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents August 30, 2016 3:02 PM  

George Soros wants Federal control of US cops and considers Only Black Lives Matter a key part of his coalition.

Soros also is buying Attorney General and even District Attorney elections in a direct attempt to remake the US legal system.

Maybe if we invite him to live on our magic dirt, he'll acculturate and stop wrecking my country? Let's ask the Libertarians, they'll know!

Anonymous Sam the Man August 30, 2016 3:07 PM  

Snidely,

Pretty funny comment. I doubt if you met me you would think I am Mischling. My daughter look like she came out of a Lebenborn house (blond hair, blue eyes).

You certainly would not guess if we spoke. Especially if you met me at a shooting event. Think of it....You may actually be socializing with a Yid...and not know it (imagine music from pycho tub scene)

Anonymous Sam the Man August 30, 2016 3:08 PM  

There is something deeply wrong with Soros.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents August 30, 2016 3:12 PM  

@144
It's been a few years now but I remember meeting an Orthodox Jew and his very pleasant wife at a shooting range. Both of them shot .45 ACP with tolerable skill from OWB holsters. They were visibly Orthodox in their dress (not Hasidim, mind you) and visibly respectful of the American shooting tradition, by participating properly.

Unlike, say, Charles Schumer.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents August 30, 2016 3:14 PM  

There is something deeply wrong with Soros.

Maybe so, but he's essentially trying to convert the US into something more like 18th century Poland. That's not going to work out well for any of us. Psychoanalyzing Soros is above my pay grade. Opposing him is my duty.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 30, 2016 3:30 PM  

Sam the Man wrote:There is something deeply wrong with Soros.
Here's my no-charge psychoanalysis, worth exactly what you're paying for it.
Given where his family made its money, he probably carries a deep-seated hatred of his family, and by extension, of Jews. His obvious answer to the cognitive dissonance of having not only profited from the slaughter of his own people, but actually, by his own admission, participating, is to eliminate Jewishness. If Jews were no longer different from Whites, then the Holocaust becomes just another example of Whites Slaughtering Whites and he's not guilty of his own crimes. But how to eliminate Jewishness without (again) eliminating Jews? By eliminating all tribes and nations.

Blogger JaimeInTexas August 30, 2016 3:31 PM  

Well, yes. My point continues to be that since 1789, these uSA has not been isolationist.
You disagree because?

Blogger Aeoli Pera August 30, 2016 3:36 PM  

Now that you mention it, I should probably be psychoanalyzing Soros.

Anonymous Bobby Farr August 30, 2016 3:48 PM  

"I think any Jew can be an American as Yankee-doodle if he puts G-D first, USA second which unfortunately means not putting one's ethnic/tribe identity first, second, maybe a distant third. In practical terms it is very difficult unless one is immersed in American culture to the exclusion of formal Temple life."

Another Jew defining Americans out of existence for his convenience. Garbage.

Blogger Harold August 30, 2016 4:03 PM  

Because Americans moved more than Europeans, state churches became impractical. Understand that. In my direct line ancestry, stretching back to the 1600's on this continent in many branches, none of my direct ancestors have died withing 50 miles of where they were born. And to go along with that, Americans mix a lot more then Europeans- including those distinct nationalities that make up Great Britain. I can trace German, Dutch, French, Spanish, English, Irish, Welsh, and Scots in direct ancestry. There's rumored Indian, as in all family lines that stretch back, but none documented. And, Germany wasn't actually Germany. The Germans consist of Bavarians and Bohemians. And probably others.

Included in the religious mix are Roman Catholic and a huge mixture of Protestant denominations.

That kind of ethnic and religious mixing, combined with geographical movement, simply doesn't occur elsewhere in the world.

Also included in the mix are ancestors on both sides of both the Revolution and the Civil War.

Anonymous GreyS August 30, 2016 4:09 PM  

Do a search on the 30 years war. Read. Learn. Then maybe we can discuss. Until then, you are arguing from a position of ignorance.

The ignorance is on your part. Post-reformation Christians oppressed and killed other Christians because of differing beliefs and had a difficult time settling on what system of government would be best in the new environment. It is common knowledge that America was founded in part for freedom of religion. Ever consider the question of freedom from whom? Other Christians. There was already so much fracturing and budding religious oppression in the colonies that by the time of the actual founding they had to make things so general that on paper America is a deist nation, not a Christian one.

You are also attempting to hijack the thread. Why?

Not in the least. I am pointing out that the fracturing of Christendom led to a specific type of government and how public faith became private faith. This privatization was an inherent weakness which was exploited by immigrant jews and also led to the secularization of a formerly Christian people.

Anonymous GreyS August 30, 2016 4:19 PM  

There is something deeply wrong with Soros.

Seems like he simply has more of something that other jews have. And I'm not referring to money.

Jews are interesting because they were the chosen people but they have also always been so rebellious against God. And there is no question they have worked tirelessly against Christianity over the centuries.

Blogger Aeoli Pera August 30, 2016 4:20 PM  

Robert Divinity wrote:These are the really dangerous ones. For many of the same reasons that Churchians are dangerous.

Templeian?

Jewishian?

There needs to be a name for it.


Babelonian.

Blogger Aeoli Pera August 30, 2016 4:21 PM  

No need to thank me, I'm just awesome like that.

Blogger VD August 30, 2016 4:48 PM  

"I think any Jew can be an American as Yankee-doodle if he puts G-D first, USA second which unfortunately means not putting one's ethnic/tribe identity first, second, maybe a distant third. In practical terms it is very difficult unless one is immersed in American culture to the exclusion of formal Temple life."

You're wrong. You can't be Chinese either. Deal with it.

Blogger Lemand August 30, 2016 5:06 PM  

Tikkun olam is a recent addition to English literature https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=Tikkun+olam&year_start=1800&year_end=2008&corpus=0&smoothing=3&share=&direct_url=t1%3B%2CTikkun%20olam%3B%2Cc0

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Anonymous Chohin August 30, 2016 5:16 PM  

The U.S. Constitution is two things: A statement of national principles and a nation's governing document. No nation's principles nor governing structure is static. What was is never what is.

When founded, the U.S. was a "white nation". It's blacks were not citizens and could not be. By 1865, that changed. Americans pronounced America was to be a country that was composed of both blacks and whites

What's undeniable is this: America's governing document is a statement of the principles embraced by those who are living and who are the progeny of American's past. To suggest that America is and must be what it was and not what it is ignores basic reality.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 30, 2016 5:38 PM  

Chohin wrote:What's undeniable is this: America's governing document is a statement of the principles embraced by those who are living and who are the progeny of American's past. To suggest that America is and must be what it was and not what it is ignores basic reality.

To suggest that people of other societies, other ethnicities and other religions can fully embrace those principles is to ignore observable reality.

Blogger Robert What? August 30, 2016 5:38 PM  

There are more than a few American Jews who despise Soros and all he stands for. Yours truly being one. We are just not the powerful, connected ones.

Blogger Rabbi B August 30, 2016 5:44 PM  

There are more than a few American Jews who despise Soros and all he stands for. Yours truly being one. We are just not the powerful,connected ones.

Granted. But you still may want to seriously consider packing your bags if you're of "Jewish extraction."

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents August 30, 2016 5:58 PM  

Do a search on the 30 years war. Read. Learn. Then maybe we can discuss. Until then, you are arguing from a position of ignorance.

GreyS
The ignorance is on your part. Post-reformation Christians oppressed and killed other Christians because of differing beliefs and had a difficult time settling on what system of government would be best in the new environment.

Moving the goalposts. Previously you claimed Prots killing Prots, now you have shifted to Christians killing Christians, perhaps you did go read about the 30 years war and learn something? Be that as it may, Westphalia settled certain aspects of governance. Most of Europe was some form of monarchy, with Helvetica being the major exception. Therefore you are wrong.

It is common knowledge that America was founded in part for freedom of religion. Ever consider the question of freedom from whom? Other Christians.

Correct. However, this is still goalpost moving, as before you were ranting about Prots killing Prots.

There was already so much fracturing and budding religious oppression in the colonies that by the time of the actual founding they had to make things so general that on paper America is a deist nation, not a Christian one.

So what? On paper I have the right to outfit a privateer complete with cannon, as was done in the 1780's.

You are also attempting to hijack the thread. Why?

Not in the least. I am pointing out that the fracturing of Christendom led to a specific type of government and how public faith became private faith.

So are you blaming the current woes on the US Constitution, on all Protestants, or something else? What form of goverment do you find to be so bad, and what is your replacement for it?

This privatization was an inherent weakness which was exploited by immigrant jews and also led to the secularization of a formerly Christian people.

The privatization in the US was a requirement for survival. So are you arguing that a Church of the US should have been imposed by force? That would have led to the secession of most Americans west of the first Appalachian crestline just for a start.

Blaming the current woes on Protestantism or Catholicism is an old game, and not a very good one. Maybe you should play something else. If nothing else you might look around and decide who your allies are. "No religion" is the fastest growing category in the under-30 US population, are they your ally in a conflict with Islam?

Anonymous Sam th Man August 30, 2016 6:37 PM  

Bobby Farr (151) and VD (157)

In all seriousness I do not see your point of view. Not saying you are wrong, but I do not think understand either of you completely, the very thing that I think defines an American you seem to dismiss (loyalty to principle/G-D, put US first before all other nations)

If a person who is of Jewish faith assimilates into America, values it and puts Americas interest first and has both English and German genetics, how are they not American? This same person would be American if they were say a WASP or Catholic, correct?

I can certainly see how one could not be Chinese that is defined by race alone and not religion. If it is religious affiliation alone that determines it,can one be American if one believes in Christ (Messianic Jew). Is it blood or religious affiliation or both?

Depending on your answer it might not leave any home for a fellow and his family. Now if you respond: Israel, go there.......well say a chap likes his guns, other than America, Switzerland and Slovenia there isn't any home outside of those states. Israel is not a free state with regards to arms and the citizenry.

How about mixed blood and marriage? There are a lot of Jews married to Gentile women and if the kids are baptized I am not sure they are welcome to go to Israel (some Russians excepted, but that lead to some real issues).

What about a Sephardic Jew whose family can trace its lineage back to Florida pre 1819, heck say to the 1565? Is he not American though he has family lineage that goes back before the Englanders first landed on the new world?

If you say the religious affiliation trumps all other factors, well....quite honestly I do not exactly see that.

By the Bye, I am not asking to pick a fight with either of you, I am kind of surprised at your answers and trying to understand you. I especially do not understand this:

"Another Jew defining Americans out of existence for his convenience. Garbage."

Thanks in advance for any answer you might care to provide rather than resorting to insults.

Anonymous GreyS August 30, 2016 6:44 PM  

@164

Not moving any goalposts anywhere and not wrong at all. Reformist Christians killed reformist Christians. They burned fellow Prots at the stake. Tortured them. Drove them off their homelands. Zwingli was a murderer, and Calvin had his own little reign of terror. Many more where those came from. Don't get angry-- look into it.

Not sure how you get to the belief that talking about the fragmentation already here in the colonies is "moving goalposts". But wait-- you apparently agree with me...

The privatization in the US was a requirement for survival.

Why is that?

So are you arguing that a Church of the US should have been imposed by force? That would have led to the secession of most Americans west of the first Appalachian crestline just for a start.

Why is that?



Blogger tublecane August 30, 2016 6:50 PM  

@165-Let's pit it this way: they can be a U.S. citizen, and they can be an American in their hearts, whatever that means, but America is not for them. That's not why it was created.

There is something else, let's call it Amoreica, that was just sorta appeared after America had already been created. People mistook it for America, and now it governs territory formerly governed by America, and borrowed a distorted version American history and called it its own. That's your country

You are an Amoreican. I am, too. I am German-Scottish-Irish-Swiss, and probably some other stuff, all post-dating the founding (partlu predating the Civil War, partly not), and was raised Catholic. There's no way I'm American, not in the original sense.

Blogger tublecane August 30, 2016 6:52 PM  

pit = put

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents August 30, 2016 6:54 PM  

Not moving any goalposts anywhere and not wrong at all. Reformist Christians killed reformist Christians. They burned fellow Prots at the stake. Tortured them. Drove them off their homelands. Zwingli was a murderer, and Calvin had his own little reign of terror. Many more where those came from. Don't get angry-- look into it.

Moving the goalposts again? So which is it, Prots killed Prots so Muslims get invited into Germany, or Christians killed Christians so 40% of Mexico is moving into the US?

Make up your mind. I blew up your claim about governance after the Reformation and the religious wars by pointing to the fact of Westphalia, now you're all "can't hear you!"

Not sure how you get to the belief that talking about the fragmentation already here in the colonies is "moving goalposts".

Because you keep conflating 18th century America with 21st century America with 17th century Europe, when it suits your "Bad Prots ! Prots Bad!" hobby horse. If you are too ignorant to understand what led to Westphalia, then go learn something. If you are too stupid to learn, then why are you here?

But wait-- you apparently agree with me...
The privatization in the US was a requirement for survival.


Why is that?

Already explained that up the thread.

So are you arguing that a Church of the US should have been imposed by force? That would have led to the secession of most Americans west of the first Appalachian crestline just for a start.

Why is that?

Already answered.

What form of governance is it that you do not like? Direct question.
What form of governance do you suggest to fix the current mess?

Direct question. What's your point?

So far all you've done is fill your diaper with your ignorance and roll around in it, pointing fingers in various vague directions.

Are you a Monarchist? Yes or no?
Are you in favor of theodicy? Yes or no?

What. Is. Your. Point. aside from derailing the thread to screech about Prots?

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents August 30, 2016 7:01 PM  

tubalcane
You are an Amoreican. I am, too. I am German-Scottish-Irish-Swiss, and probably some other stuff, all post-dating the founding (partlu predating the Civil War, partly not), and was raised Catholic. There's no way I'm American, not in the original sense.

Correct. You don't have "rights of Englishmen", "fair play", "a man's home is his castle" and some other things down in the bone. And yet, your loyalty is more to the US than it is to Deutschland or Auld Lang Syne or the Auld Sod or Helvetica, right? Being from west of the Hajnal line, you are still more American than some Indian peasant from Chiapas.

I doubt you have an Irish passport in your bureau drawer "just in case", but I can't help wondering if (((Ekatarina))) isn't also a citizen of Israel?

The alt-Right might be heading towards a kind of Westphalia moment, where borders and peoples are what they are. Repatriating everyone who isn't 99% English is not practical, given the new mixed breed that is white America. But deporting millions of Mestizos is practical and prudent.

Encouraging people like (((Ekatarina))) to make aliyah is also practical and prudent, because mixed allegiances are bad for a nation.

Blogger Chris Mallory August 30, 2016 7:08 PM  

" The EITC payment for 20 is more than many EMTs earn in a year. "

The number of children qualifying is capped at 3, doesn't matter if the mother has 3 kids or 30. The max amount of payment is roughly $6000. Now, those other kids that aren't used are often farmed out to cousins, sisters, and neighbors.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents August 30, 2016 7:09 PM  

Book suggestion for anyone who cares:
1215, the Year of the Magna Carta

Journalist and historian team writes about life in England in the year 1215, with attention to details from commoners up to king John. Easy read but eye opening - John was always on the move because his court would totally eat all the food in any one area in just a few weeks at most. He could use this as a tool to keep any given noble family under some control.

Understanding why Runnymeade happened, and what followed, is important to understanding the Rights of Englishmen.

Available many places, just use www.bookfinder.com but here
is the Amazon link:

https://www.amazon.com/1215-Magna-Carta-Danny-Danziger/product-reviews/0340824743

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents August 30, 2016 7:16 PM  

Bleah.

Not "are you in favor of theodicy" but
Are you in favor of Theocracy.

Moar kawfee!

Blogger Skyler the Weird August 30, 2016 7:16 PM  

If you want to know what the Empress Hillary's reign will be like get a copy of Michael Lerner's THE NEW SOCIALIST REVOLUTION from circa 1969.

Anonymous GreyS August 30, 2016 7:18 PM  

I blew up your claim about governance after the Reformation and the religious wars by pointing to the fact of Westphalia, now you're all "can't hear you!"

LOL-- Nonsense. You haven't refuted me whatsoever, are faking knowledge of the historical period and I'm wondering if you are drunk. If you want to have a conversation let's have one. Otherwise, go fixate on someone else.

Anonymous andon August 30, 2016 7:29 PM  

> 172. Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents August 30, 2016 7:09 PM

Available many places, just use www.bookfinder.com


thanks for that.

I was using isbns.net but bookfinder.com looks better

Blogger Were-Puppy August 30, 2016 7:35 PM  

@160 Chohin
What's undeniable is this: America's governing document is a statement of the principles embraced by those who are living and who are the progeny of American's past. To suggest that America is and must be what it was and not what it is ignores basic reality.
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That tickles me olum

Blogger tublecane August 30, 2016 7:45 PM  

@170-I have no Irish passport. The most Irish thing about me is that one of my grandparents was named "O'Brien." I was going to say that's why I'm Catholic, but that grandparent was also half-Swiss, and they were Catholics, too. So my Irishness is paper-thin.

I get your point about practicality, but that's one of the reasons I'm not a nationalist. Not for over here, anyway. Because there is no American nationality anymore. (If there ever was; I find the original nation to have been artificially cobbled together, though it did have an ethnic identity we utterly lack.) You can't go backwards, and you can't forge a new one out of whiteness, or whatever.

Blogger VD August 30, 2016 8:10 PM  

I do not think understand either of you completely, the very thing that I think defines an American you seem to dismiss

I don't care what you think. You are wrong. What you think "defines an American" doesn't. It never has.

And it's not a surprise that you get it wrong, because you're not an American and you never will be.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents August 30, 2016 8:21 PM  

Let's see:
* Diverts attention away from the original topic with flame bait
* Refuses to admit any error
* Shifts goalposts multiple times
* Refuses to answer any direct questions (Rules of the blog? Who cares?)
* Declares victory

Concern troll is now obvious. Or should that be (((concern troll)))?

Anonymous Sam the Man August 30, 2016 8:48 PM  

Vox,

Thanks for taking the time to answer but...your answer was not particularly helpful.

Blogger Johnny August 30, 2016 9:34 PM  

Sam the Man wrote:There is something deeply wrong with Soros.

I suspect there is some kind of projection thing going on with Soros. He represses his own feeling of guilt and projects them onto others. Having enemies is mentally stabilizing if they are not just too frightening.

Anonymous jacopo August 30, 2016 10:14 PM  

Where might a homeland for European muts be situated? Could we be extended a patrilineal right of return to the countries of our forefathers to dilute Merkel diversity?

Blogger Joshua Sinistar August 31, 2016 1:07 AM  

America is gone. It had a good run. Two Centuries is good for a Republic. They say America will never come back, or it will never be the same. Good. You'll miss it when its gone.
Change. You want it, and you'll get it. You won't like it, but that's only too bad for you. You say you want a revolution, but you're not going to win. There will be a revolution, but it's not going the direction you want.
Cthulhu swims right. All your life it went left, but paradigm shift changes everything. Power and money. Some think they're the same but they're not. I'll see your money with power. You'll see the difference.

Blogger Leo Littlebook in Shenzhen August 31, 2016 3:27 AM  

jacopo wrote:Where might a homeland for European muts be situated?

In my culture, the answer to this question is, "Take it from Mexico."

A true barbarian lives beyond Trump's wall.

Anonymous Eric the Red August 31, 2016 5:25 AM  

re Sam th Man:
“If a person who is of Jewish faith assimilates into America, values it and puts Americas interest first and has both English and German genetics, how are they not American?”

Examine your assumptions. They are ahistorical and unrealistic. You are playing a mental game of if, if, if. It's all just fantasy, allowing you to conform to your premeditated morality play.

You fail to define “assimilates”, “values it”, and “Americas interests”. That's the crux of the matter, because Jews have distorted and/or redefined those terms to support their tribal agenda, one that is decidedly not the same as those of the English founders. Perhaps you're being disingenuous, perhaps you're just caught up in your Holy Narrative... either way, it's proof that Jews are a major part of the problem when it comes to maintaining a traditional white society in America.

Anonymous SciVo August 31, 2016 6:24 AM  

Tipsy wrote:I'm curious: did "Judeo-Christian Values" enter common usage at about the same time (mid 60s) when "Happy Holidays" was being marketed over "Merry Christmas"?

Apparently "Judeo-Christian values" means Jews making Christmas movies about how Santa Claus is magic. My feelings over this have been changing and growing so slowly over the decades that I hardly noticed; but the last one I saw in passing had me clenching my fists, grimacing, and muttering to myself.

It was some new animated tripe that just had to twist the knife by making Young Jack Frost the protagonist, and even Santa Claus was just supporting cast. Now, I actually liked The Nightmare Before Christmas; it was clever. But it was really a ghost story that happened to be a subversion of a Christmas story.

This was a straight-up Xmas Movie. So the wizard's curtain gets more transparent, making me madder at his same old schtick, while he actually pokes me in the eye even more. And I still have forty years to go.

Anonymous Sam the Man August 31, 2016 9:00 AM  

Eric the Red

Thanks for the response. I think I see that line of reasoning, even if I do not completely agree with it. Lets just say it looks a lot different from other angles.

Anonymous Pennywise August 31, 2016 6:03 PM  

The Founding Fathers enabled citizens, present and future, to determine their own course of action as a nation. That future was put into practice by Congressional acts, Constitutional Amendments, and Supreme Court decisions in the manner intended by the Framers that dealt with issues of citizenship and nation. That one sentence, “We hold these truths...” signifies exactly what is an American and who is able to become an American. The Naturalization Act was only a starting point representative of the time period, not the ending point as to who is only a "true" American. Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness is a universal construct--ALL people are able to grasp its meaning and apply it here. Exactly why Congress was granted future citizens the opportunity to expand upon the notion of “We The People”.

When rumpole5 stated “ I may be of almost 100% German extraction, but I certainly have a valid claim by birth and heritage to the title "American" as any English”, the answer always ends up “yes”.

When Robert What? stated “So what does that make me? Incidentally are American born citizens of German or Swedish extraction "Americans"? Or is it only those of English descent?”, the answer always ends up “You are an American”.

Blogger Arthur Isaac August 31, 2016 10:13 PM  

The Founding Fathers were not omniscient, if they had any inkling that their land was going to be swarmed with the descendants of Barbary Pirates they would have been more specific.

Blogger Arthur Isaac August 31, 2016 10:14 PM  

The Founding Fathers were not omniscient, if they had any inkling that their land was going to be swarmed with the descendants of Barbary Pirates they would have been more specific.

Anonymous nobody September 01, 2016 6:35 AM  

A certain level of ethnocentrism is natural.

I believe a nation that loses their homeland will develop hyper-ethnocentrism as a survival mechanism.

When they're weak it compensates for the weakness.

When they're strong it is immensely dangerous to everyone.

The only solution i can see is a safe, secure homeland where they can gradually chill out over n generations.

Letting them destroy our nations while they're still in this rabid state is not good for anybody - especially as the current carrying capacity of the world depends on our nations.

Blogger Ron September 01, 2016 9:54 AM  

@Sam The Man

not particularly helpful

Sam... it's time to go home. What Vox is doing, whether intentionally or not, is demonstrating to you something we need to be doing as well.

He's a religious ethnic nationalist. It's uncomfortable to be on the receiving end of that, but by openly advocating for it in his country, he gives us the room to do so in our own country.

American is not our home, never was. It was a pit stop, a temporary oasis, a place to recover and rest. Even if the place had theoretically been colonized solely by Jews, we still wouldn't have any business permanently residing there.

Take what you've learned from America, take all the good things you love about her, and bring it to your real home. Every Jew that does that makes it just a little bit easier for the rest to do so as well.

Besides which, it's clearly what God wants, and His will shall be realized one way or another. Don't make Him drag you there in chains.

Anonymous Pennywise September 01, 2016 8:02 PM  

"Sam... it's time to go home. What Vox is doing, whether intentionally or not, is demonstrating to you something we need to be doing as well."

Sam, he can stay. He need not defer to your whims.

"He's a religious ethnic nationalist. It's uncomfortable to be on the receiving end of that, but by openly advocating for it in his country, he gives us the room to do so in our own country."

Nation. Our own nation. Consisting of different people.

"Take what you've learned from America, take all the good things you love about her, and bring it to your real home. Every Jew that does that makes it just a little bit easier for the rest to do so as well."

Sam can determine for himself through life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness where is his home.

Blogger Arthur Isaac September 03, 2016 2:12 PM  

Sam can determine for himself through life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness where is his home.

How about Uranus?

If "Caitlyn" can be a woman, Sam can be an Uranus dwelling otherkin, right?

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