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Thursday, August 11, 2016

Ben Shapiro is glad you hate him

Or at least he would like you to think so. After all, he must maintain his pose as a brave conservative culture warrior, or people might figure out that he's a fraud.
Supreme Dark Lord@voxday
My readers really hate @benshapiro.

"Chickenhawk does not even BEGIN to describe this supercilious neo-con asshole."

Ben Shapiro ‏@benshapiro
Good.

Supreme Dark Lord@voxday
You've always been a fraud, Ben. I still have your emails to me when you were full of self-doubt about being a little parrot.

Supreme Dark Lord@voxday
I told you to strike out and become your own man. Instead, you chickenhawked and went media whore. It was a foolish call.

Supreme Dark Lord@voxday
Your problem is that you're a puppet and you know it. Here's the thing. So do we.
What many of you probably don't know is that Ben and I used to be colleagues of a sort at WND. My columns were much more popular, as I was reliably the number three most-read, behind Ann Coulter and Pat Buchanan. Ben's readership was never more than about one-tenth of mine, but he was a smart little kid and did a good job of parroting the usual Republican boilerplate.

We corresponded a few times and were on friendly, if distant, terms. I mean, what do you talk about with a little kid whose idea of a good time is launching obvious rhetorical attacks at liberals? As he matured, he gradually began to question the ideas he was parroting, and reached the point where he considered quitting the media game.

I'll have to dig out the emails to figure out exactly what I told him, but if I recall correctly, I encouraged him to resist the temptation to become a media whore. I understood the allure, as it was a poisoned apple that was also offered to me, but perhaps it was easier for me to turn it down since I was living in Europe and already established in the game development world.

Ben, unfortunately, couldn't resist the apple, or the easy way forward, writing whatever his backers told him to write. I haven't read him much since he wrote those dreadful, chickenshit columns in 2005, so I don't know how much of what he writes he genuinely believes now and how much he is still parroting. Of course, the human mind being the incredible rationalizing machine that it is, it's entirely possible that he has come to believe what he's been told to say.

What I found most amusing is the way that the Littlest Chickenhawk's supporters alternate between crowing about what a formidable debater he is, and trying to excuse the way he ran away from a proposed debate on free trade with me.
Gone Fishing
LOL! All these Ben haters. You guys wouldn't stand a chance in hell vs him in a debate on social issues. #CryMeAriver

Gone Fishing ‏@jgfleet661
Shapiro kicks the ass of real decision makers in this country in debates. He does with facts not feelings.

Supreme Dark Lord ‏@voxday
I will debate Ben on any topic. He's already run away from me on a proposed free trade debate.

Gone Fishing ‏@jgfleet661
 😂😂😂😂! Yeah, he totally ran away from you. I mean, you're the SUPREME DARK LORD! There's no way he could beat you, right?

 Valerie ‏@vpak77
yes, you two are definitely not in the same league. That is true.

ryedog™
Totally, it'd be a complete waste of Ben's time.

Gone Fishing ‏@jgfleet661
He has to run. He's busy debating important people on major news networks all over the country. #PuttingInWork
Some things never change.

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131 Comments:

Anonymous JAG August 11, 2016 6:43 PM  

Still waiting for Ben's inevitable endorsement of Clinton. Get it over with little Benji. You know you want to.

Blogger Whisker biscuit August 11, 2016 6:44 PM  

He wrote one book I enjoyed called Primetime Propaganda. That's it.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 11, 2016 6:46 PM  

Gone Fishing ‏@jgfleet661
Shapiro kicks the ass of real decision makers in this country in debates. He does with facts not feelings.


Someone actually thinks this about Shapiro?? WTF?

Anonymous Sam the Man August 11, 2016 6:48 PM  

Not disagreeing with your point of view on the chicken hawk, he is actually kind of embarrassing, at least I would be embarrassed if I had been so vocal but gone the self serving lawyer route while urging white blonde "goyim" to go self-immolate in crapistan for Israel.

At the same time I wonder, why do you kick his butt with such regularity? Not a trick question, no rhetorical attack coming, but ...well, you do not seem cruel from how you have responded to those who are lacking in self awareness but something about him seems to warrant more ass-kickery than a lot of other folks who seem to be equally if not more deserving. Just curious.

Blogger tz August 11, 2016 6:48 PM  

Found an interesting quote on rhetoric vs dialectic from long, long ago:

“At a time like this, scorching irony, not convincing argument, is needed…It is not light that we need, but fire; it is not the gentle shower, but thunder. We need the storm, the whirlwind, and the earthquake.” – Frederick Douglass

Blogger dh August 11, 2016 6:49 PM  

The one time I saw Ben Shapiro in person, at the Boston airport, I realized he is so much more petite in person than on TV. He reminds me of a guy I knew who basically begged his way into bed with girls that were the types who only have to be asked once by a good looking guy.

He's still not too old to enlist. He could at least be a JAG or something in the rear.

Blogger VD August 11, 2016 6:53 PM  

At the same time I wonder, why do you kick his butt with such regularity? Not a trick question, no rhetorical attack coming, but ...well, you do not seem cruel from how you have responded to those who are lacking in self awareness but something about him seems to warrant more ass-kickery than a lot of other folks who seem to be equally if not more deserving. Just curious.

Because he keeps attacking my friends and allies.

Anonymous Susan August 11, 2016 6:54 PM  

I lost interest in Shapiro when a writing assignment for Breitbart a few years ago was to compile a list of what he thought were some of the greatest Hollywood films/directors ever. When his list came out, readers were like WTF?? He didn't include anything by Alfred Hitchcock, and he couldn't understand why everyone loved Hitchcock movies.

Not only is he missing a screw or two in his head, I have suspected for a long time now that he is most likely Aspie. I get that impression because there are times when he seriously doesn't have a clue or understand something basic about American culture. Something off in him.

Then there was the hysterical meltdown resignation letter that Buzzfeed released. I have never seen anyone fall apart like that. He has always been so tightly wound in his personality previously.

Blogger dh August 11, 2016 6:56 PM  

Not only is he missing a screw or two in his head, I have suspected for a long time now that he is most likely Aspie

He's something, but I don't think it's an aspie. He has all the tells of a classic Republican closet-case.

Blogger Crude August 11, 2016 6:58 PM  

For me, Shapiro blew himself to pieces when he went all-in on the Michelle Fields thing. That to me just screamed 'fake'. Anyone, and I mean anyone, could see that Michelle Fields was full of shit. Trump had no trouble squashing that whole fiasco on TV. He did other things which made me write him off in large part, but once someone commits to such a brazen and transparent lie, their value is gone as a political voice.

OpenID paworldandtimes August 11, 2016 6:59 PM  

most likely Aspie

Meh. Same is said about Essssra Klein and Brian Caplan. A simpler explanation: tribal Jew without the stomach for liberalism.

PA

Blogger Chase August 11, 2016 7:01 PM  

The Jew calls you a coward as he runs away.

That's how it goes, right?

Blogger Barry Dickinson, MD August 11, 2016 7:04 PM  

He already endorsed Trump.

"Trump speaks Conservatism as a Second Language. It's me trying to speak Spanish. I can sort of approximate the sounds of Spanish. I can get a few words here or there. But I'm going to screw up the sentence structure because I don't know Spanish.

Trump doesn't know Conservatism."

Tiny Ben

Anonymous BGKB August 11, 2016 7:09 PM  

Shapiro kicks the ass of real decision makers in this country in debate...Someone actually thinks this about Shapiro?? WTF?

To be fair the k and the L keys are right next to each other.

He has all the tells of a classic Republican closet-case.

I hear he is pretty small.

Blogger Scott C August 11, 2016 7:12 PM  

If you want to hit his sore spot, bring up Michelle Fields. He went to bat for her when she issued a baseless charge against Trump's campaign manager, and now it turns out she's a plagiarist. I'm not sure whether Shapiro resigned from Breitbart over this fraud, but if he did, he's a laughingstock.

Blogger Barry Dickinson, MD August 11, 2016 7:15 PM  

To be fair the k and the L keys are right next to each other.

Shapiro kicks the ass of rea(k) decision makers in this country in debate...Someone actually thinks this about Shapiro?? WTF?

Kicks the ass of reak decision makers?

That doesn't make a lick of sense.

Blogger Cataline Sergius August 11, 2016 7:17 PM  

@dh

He's something, but I don't think it's an aspie. He has all the tells of a classic Republican closet-case.

I recently heard his voice for the first time on the Ace of Spades podcast. The tone of Ben's voice was incredibly high, condescending and annoying. It was finger nails on a blackboard grating.

My fingers curled brutishly of their own accord. As if they were seeking to grab the elastic waistband of his underwear in order to jerk it savagely over his head.

It left me deeply shaken.

Blogger Were-Puppy August 11, 2016 7:20 PM  

@15 Scott C

I'm not sure whether Shapiro resigned from Breitbart over this fraud, but if he did, he's a laughingstock.
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He did .
http://archive.is/uP1Gc

Blogger Scott C August 11, 2016 7:26 PM  

A redditor asked Shapiro in a Q&A thread if he regretted his white knighting for Fields, and he gave a snappy answer. Bring up Fields to Shapiro and his followers.

Blogger SirHamster August 11, 2016 7:29 PM  

Scott C wrote:If you want to hit his sore spot, bring up Michelle Fields. He went to bat for her when she issued a baseless charge against Trump's campaign manager, and now it turns out she's a plagiarist. I'm not sure whether Shapiro resigned from Breitbart over this fraud, but if he did, he's a laughingstock.

Can find his resignation statement here.

Both Lewandowski and Trump maligned Michelle in the most repulsive fashion. Meanwhile, Breitbart News not only stood by and did nothing outside of tepidly asking for an apology, they then attempted to abandon Michelle by silencing staff from tweeting or talking about the issue. Finally, in the ultimate indignity, they undermined Michelle completely by running a poorly-evidenced conspiracy theory as their lead story in which Michelle and Terris had somehow misidentified Lewandowski.

He framed it as Breitbart News losing its way ... but it was for Fields. White Knights deserve everything they get.

Anonymous Cucks need to shut up August 11, 2016 7:32 PM  

@4 Vox answered this, but a little more explanation might help you out.

@19 by all means Little Ben must be reminded of his mindless white knighting as well as his other flaws, until he gets a clue and leaves the alt right alone.

Negative reinforcement....some call it cruel, true.

Blogger Scott C August 11, 2016 7:36 PM  

Calling Shapiro anti-Semitic names won't irk him, but his championing of Michelle Fields will because it shows a terrible lapse in judgement on his part. Resigning from his position at Breitbart over Fields makes him look like a fool.

If you mention Fields, he can't turn it around on people like he can with anti-Semitic remarks ("you're a Nazi").

Blogger Eric Johnson August 11, 2016 7:40 PM  

The one thing that should be considered when it comes to the issue of Free Trade is "Why should we freely trade with countries that are openly hostile to the United States and brutally oppresses their own people?"

Take Communist China for example. The Chinese Government has instituted a series of Stalinist show trials against Human Rights Attorneys and is building up its military for the express purpose of challenging the U.S.

Blogger Were-Puppy August 11, 2016 7:44 PM  

Well, how else was a lil shorty like that going to have a shot with Ms. Fields?

Oh wait, it didn't work out BAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Anonymous Scooter Downey August 11, 2016 7:46 PM  

Ben Shapiro, Matt Walsh, PZ Myers. Anybody else to add to the Brave Sir Robin list?

Blogger Were-Puppy August 11, 2016 7:48 PM  

The goblin Guttfield

Anonymous Godfrey August 11, 2016 7:49 PM  

Israel has a wall.

Ben, how many refugees has Israel taken? Isn't Syria right next to Israel Ben?

Does Shapiro hate Goys?

Blogger Cory S August 11, 2016 7:52 PM  

On the fence here since I enjoy you both. What would be in it for Ben to debate you? I'm not entirely sure he is "running"...he is probably indifferent.

Anonymous BGKB August 11, 2016 7:59 PM  

Little Benji is doing Dath Soro's work http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/08/stunning_revelation_wikileaks_hack_shows_that_soros_called_the_shots_on_us_policy_toward_albania.html

Nigger Felon Legion wont let Cowboys Honor cops but let Rams do BLM.
http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/nfl-denies-cowboys-request-to-wear-helmet-decal-honoring-dallas-police-officers-081116

Get your own house nigger rapist http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/08/11/france-wants-members-public-take-migrants-official-centres-cant-cope/


http://www.politico.eu/article/german-intelligence-warns-of-is-hit-squads-among-refugees/

Blogger Arthur Isaac August 11, 2016 7:59 PM  

Stopped reading him about the same time. Between the tone and content it just became perfunctory, might as well watch Fox News. At least that is usually good for a laugh.

Blogger VD August 11, 2016 8:02 PM  

On the fence here since I enjoy you both. What would be in it for Ben to debate you? I'm not entirely sure he is "running"...he is probably indifferent.

His integrity. He also likes to pose as someone who is a skilled debater and you can't do that by running away from everyone who has the ability to beat you.

If you genuinely think Ben is indifferent, you're insane. He's not at all indifferent. He's been reading me since he was a little kid and he knows I will likely beat him without breaking a sweat.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY August 11, 2016 8:06 PM  

" I lost interest in Shapiro when a writing assignment for Breitbart a few years ago was to compile a list of what he thought were some of the greatest Hollywood films/directors ever. When his list came out, readers were like WTF?? He didn't include anything by Alfred Hitchcock, and he couldn't understand why everyone loved Hitchcock movies."
I am willing to bet Leon Uris " Exodus " or Schpeilberg's moofies were on his his list, you damn betcha.
"I'm not sure whether Shapiro resigned from Breitbart over this fraud, but if he did, he's a laughingstock."
He's a Jew, and was found out. They have a tendency to outsmart themselves, like a lot of yankees do.
"If you mention Fields, he can't turn it around on people like he can with anti-Semitic remarks ("you're a Nazi")."
We are all Nazis now. Heil Pepe !

Blogger SemiSpook37 August 11, 2016 8:08 PM  

Scooter Downey wrote:Matt Walsh

Cheeto-face's token "Catholic". For as much as he likes to bitch about Trump, he's really made himself look like a jackass.

Blogger Robert Divinity August 11, 2016 8:09 PM  

He's still not too old to enlist. He could at least be a JAG or something in the rear.

This.

Any time Ben Shapiro or any chickenhawk urges war, they need to be bombarded with the locations of the recruiting station closest to them. If they are too old to serve but have children of age, Tweet or forward the same information.

He has all the tells of a classic Republican closet-case.

This might explain the lust for warfare by proxy, all the images of ripped young men in uniform. There would be no sexual orientation barrier to Ben Shapiro to get up close and personal now.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY August 11, 2016 8:13 PM  

"His integrity."
I don't think he knows what integrity is outside his tribe, Vox.

Blogger Cory S August 11, 2016 8:18 PM  

"His integrity. He also likes to pose as someone who is a skilled debater and you can't do that by running away from everyone who has the ability to beat you."

Is there anyone of prominence he's recently run away from? I know Milo (who I also enjoy) dodged him a month or so ago.

Blogger Melampus the Seer August 11, 2016 8:19 PM  

Gamma.

Anonymous Sam the Man August 11, 2016 8:20 PM  

The small physical size of Ben S. might explain something. A man who is a war monger but will not go, over compensation or something like that.


Vox,

Thanks for the response, I did not realize he was attacking the alt right, very stupid of him. That said I do not think he understands American culture par-see so a lot of the comments that would jar a Celtic/English/german type will likely not really resonate with him.

If you want to know how to insert the shiv I would mention this: his culture values outward success. A successful personal injury lawyer who would be repellent in the WASP world because "that is just not done" is quite respected in that worldview. So not only the mention of Fields, but the way in which it has lead to his downfall as a serious journalist/opinion-maker/respected commentator would be particular jarring to his social position within his culture.


Blogger Cash August 11, 2016 8:22 PM  

Eh. The guy is a fraud in a way sure. He is more like a guy doing a job that he can't find a way out of. I feel for people who find themselves in that position.

But Shapiro is a shit so I don't feel bad.

Blogger Cash August 11, 2016 8:32 PM  

He reminds me of a missionary kid. I looked up his childhood and it has some similarities to a MK. Foreign culture, switched schools a lot, graduated early, has adults assume his belief system, etc.

It's like the kids grow up a fish out of water are just missing that something.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY August 11, 2016 8:34 PM  

If the wee Benji had to do aliyah at his age, would have to serve in the IDF ? Just askin.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY August 11, 2016 8:44 PM  

" He's been reading me since he was a little kid and he knows I will likely beat him without breaking a sweat. "
Believe you me, A overwhelming majority of us us that have followed and read you all these years know this for a fact.
He's a pitiful little pissant, and he can't didimao fast enough for me.

Anonymous Anonymous August 11, 2016 9:02 PM  

Perhaps . . . now that Arianna has moved on, Ole 42DD Fields can persuade someone to let him on staff at HuffPo.

Might finally be his perfect fit. jb!

Blogger Doom August 11, 2016 9:13 PM  

Who? Oh, him, the "conservative" wheaton. Playing with him? Whatevs, just be in before dark.

Blogger Bill August 11, 2016 9:15 PM  

Hey Vox, are you involved in the Twitter replacement/upgrade?


http://regated.com/2016/08/exclusive-twitter-alternative-gab-open-beta-test-monday-the_donald-readers/

Blogger Nate August 11, 2016 9:17 PM  

"He has to run. He's busy debating important people on major news networks all over the country. "

Tells you everything you need to know. The poor bastards are the same GOP guys that used to call into Rush in a fever pitch because someone on ABC or CBS actually said something nice about a republican.

Blogger Nate August 11, 2016 9:19 PM  

"If you want to know how to insert the shiv I would mention this:"

...

Vox just said this to him:

"You've always been a fraud, Ben. I still have your emails to me when you were full of self-doubt about being a little parrot."

and you think you can give him advice on how to twist the knife?

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother August 11, 2016 9:20 PM  

Is Ben like my old maintenance chief? He didn't eat food. His life force was sustained by your pain.

Blogger Retrenched August 11, 2016 9:27 PM  

The alt-right basically wants the same thing that Jews already have in Israel, which makes them just like Hitler for some reason

Blogger YIH August 11, 2016 9:30 PM  

BGKB wrote:Shapiro kicks the ass of real decision makers in this country in debate...Someone actually thinks this about Shapiro?? WTF?

To be fair the k and the L keys are right next to each other.

He has all the tells of a classic Republican closet-case.

I hear he is pretty small.

Assuming Ted Cruz actually is 5'8'' (reasonable), Little Benny looks to be about 5'4''.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY August 11, 2016 9:30 PM  

Just remind him when he slits it's down the road, not across the street. Do it real qiuck like, wee benji.

Anonymous Sam thre Man August 11, 2016 9:31 PM  

Nate, you think like an Anglo.

There are two types of honor, internal and external.

Internal is motivated by self image and the common definition of honor to westerners. To a westerner a contradiction between his actual behavior and that he aspires to would be shameful, regardless if anyone knew it or not. Vox's comment referred to that, internal western view of honor. Not all people of the world see it that way. To some it is not the internal view but that as perceived by the tribe/in-group that affects societal position or honor.

External honor is guided by external validation and shame. An attack on the image of honor that a particular group responds too will be more effective. The thought that the in group will see him lacking is far more shameful, when to a westerner going against the group for "the right cause is the height of honor" There is an entire set of westerns devoted to that.

As an example consider the personal injury lawyer who by most WASP standards would be a slug. Not so to someone who perceives honor as something externally validated, the success of the a lawyer in outfoxing people and being successful makes him a highly respected person.

Blogger D. August 11, 2016 9:35 PM  

VD,

If you want to help B. Shapiro in this matter, I would suggest pointing him to V. Havel's >Power of the Powerless< essay especially the tale of the "Green Grocer". It is a primer on gov't sanctioned groupthink.

Blogger Lazarus August 11, 2016 9:36 PM  

Sam thre Man wrote:As an example consider the personal injury lawyer who by most WASP standards would be a slug. Not so to someone who perceives honor as something externally validated, the success of the a lawyer in outfoxing people and being successful makes him a highly respected person.

If Justice be damned, honor has recused herself.

Anonymous Andrew E. August 11, 2016 9:42 PM  

Texas is overrated

https://twitter.com/Ricky_Vaughn99/status/763909675557453824

Texit!!

Anonymous Die Fledermaus August 11, 2016 9:43 PM  

Godfrey wrote:Israel has a wall.

Ben, how many refugees has Israel taken? Isn't Syria right next to Israel Ben?

Does Shapiro hate Goys?


Actually, the border between Israel and Syria is mostly barb fence. It's not very hard to traverse but it's a good way to get shot if you're doing it with a weapon or something. Some Syrian refugees who are actually injured (Not many, a few hundreds) do manage to get across and they are treated in Israeli hospitals.

Not to say that Israel doesn't have a real refugee problem - and like with the US, the problem is on the southern border with a country it is officially at "peace" with - Egypt.

For years now, the Egyptians have been happily letting Sudanese and Eritrean "refugees" (Most of them are actually simply work immigrants) by the tens of thousands to go through Egypt and pass the border with Israel, which had absolutely no barrier on it for decades. These immigrants who are pretty uniformly black and Muslim mostly find their way into Tel Aviv, where they congregate in slum neighborhoods, and cause huge problems of property crime, violence, and of course, rape. Sounds familiar ?

Israel has curbed the issue, though partly. On the technical level, Israel built...yes, another border fence. Steel and barb wire, which dramatically decreased the stream of "refugees". On the legal side of things, Israeli government efforts to deport or detain the refugees who are already here have been mostly nuked by the Israeli supreme court, which is about as leftist-SJW-infested institution as you can possibly imagine.

Blogger Mountain Man August 11, 2016 9:46 PM  

Once you leave the womb, conservatives don’t care about you until you reach military age. Then you’re just what they’re looking for. Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers.
-George Carlin

The neocon movement summed up in one paragraph.

Anonymous Sam the Man August 11, 2016 9:49 PM  

Lazarus


"If Justice be damned, honor has recused herself."

To a westerner, where honor is seen as an objective thing. Not all peoples see it that way.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY August 11, 2016 9:50 PM  

"Nate, you think like an Anglo."
And what exactly is wrong with that ?
"As an example consider the personal injury lawyer "
Most of them are Jooz. How are you making your point ?
" the success of the a lawyer in outfoxing people and being successful makes him a highly respected person. "
Maybe in your world, Samuel. Most of us think of lawyers as offal eaters with a tendency to eat their own young if need be, which is more often than one would think necesarry.

Blogger Lazarus August 11, 2016 9:51 PM  

Die Fledermaus wrote:Actually, the border between Israel and Syria is mostly barb fence. It's not very hard to traverse but it's a good way to get shot if you're doing it with a weapon or something.

That's a "wall" not an invitation. Canada and the US invite them in, Israel does not. Yes they have a problem, but they are not inviting people in. That's the difference.

Blogger Lazarus August 11, 2016 9:51 PM  

Sam the Man wrote:Lazarus

"If Justice be damned, honor has recused herself."

To a westerner, where honor is seen as an objective thing. Not all peoples see it that way.


Who might these peoples be??

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY August 11, 2016 10:01 PM  

"Who might these peoples be??"

((( Take a wild guess )))

Blogger Mountain Man August 11, 2016 10:16 PM  

@56
It brings to mind a story shared with me by the owner of a domestic manufacturing facility. They sell a substantial amount of their products to China. They have a native Chinese - who lives there in yellow land - and act as their salesperson.
A huge order was placed by a Chinese individual . Contracts for delivery were signed and the order was shipped out. As it arrived in yellow land, the slant -eye who placed the order, suddenly got cold feet and decided that they weren't going to take possession of the order. The company owner called his Chinese salesperson and was basically like " WTF - they signed a contract to accept and pay for this" The salesperson responded with " that point will not sway them - but I know something that will" . The salesperson then proceeded to call each individual family member of the slant eye who cancelled the order and told them that he lied and defaulted on what he said he was going to do. Within less than a week the slant-eye took possession of the order and paid up.
Signed contracts in the West mean something. In the East - not so much. Family shame on the other hand - now thats a whole separate story.

Blogger James Dixon August 11, 2016 10:23 PM  

Hate? Ben Shapiro? Sorry Ben, but you're not important enough to hate.

Blogger praetorian August 11, 2016 10:43 PM  

I don't think about you at all...

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY August 11, 2016 11:00 PM  

"If you want to help B. Shapiro in this matter"
ME would not piss on him if he was blazin'.

Blogger Whisker biscuit August 11, 2016 11:09 PM  

I live in Lexington, KY. Walsh hosted a radio show here before he took the job of finger-banging Beck. He would get destroyed on air by callers from the left and right.

All he was good at was rambling and virtue signaling.

Anonymous Sam the Man August 11, 2016 11:09 PM  

Lazarus,

Middle east cultures for one.


Anonymous jOHN MOSBY August 11, 2016 11:17 PM  































































































"Middle east cultures for one."
Fuck' em, you got me, sammy ?

Anonymous FP August 11, 2016 11:27 PM  

"Gone Fishing ‏@jgfleet661
He has to run. He's busy debating important people on major news networks all over the country. #PuttingInWork"

Right, when he isn't getting physically threatened by low effort trannies named Zoe on CNN.

Totes. Important. People.

Blogger YIH August 11, 2016 11:29 PM  

I can't say I hate (((little Benny))), because he's just too much fun to mock.
And if you think his voice is bad, trust me, (((Mark Levin))) is worse, both in harshness and style.

Anonymous Sam the Man August 11, 2016 11:39 PM  

John M.

It is a common trait of the region. One of the shooters at my gun club was a retired professor who specialized in middle east. Very illuminating to have him discuss the Sematic, and Hamitic peoples. It is common to cultures of that region.

Westerners, because of something related to cold regions or Christianity, have a different way of looking at things.


Japanese have something similar as well. Face is more important than reality at times.

Blogger LP9 Solidified in Gold! Rin Integra August 11, 2016 11:40 PM  

Pull those emails for potential public display as Ben might not let this go.

Vox could care less, he offered to debate, Ben was not interested.

Blogger LP9 Solidified in Gold! Rin Integra August 11, 2016 11:40 PM  

A note to our younger people: I care about your plight but you are often taking orders from the DNC or RNC GOPe/feminists, etc., but most sadly baby boomers whom will drain you of your life force, impede your personal growth and when you hit your 40's, you will regret carrying water and being paid by these questionable people. You are often stuck on these pre-sjw neocon strains of thought that has infected and distorted the worldviews of younger people but it is difficult to admit.

Many people are spoon fed media lies and the media or MSM always lies, its their narrative to promote mass trance states to lull everyone into kiddyland.

You young people do not need their money. We dont have time for any of this, its a shame Vox even has to document this matter but it had to be done.

Look at Vox, he is not owned by anyone, isn't bought off, doesn't care and really doesn't care about lesser topics. He tries to help those whom are willing to change and listen. Why hasn't Ben read TIA or RGD, Cucks or SJWAL? The refusal to review these 4 books says far more than I could ever post, those books upset Ben's Faith, worldview and make him bristle at being called a Cuck - however I am not name calling merely observing and questioning.

Look at the professionals at Castalia House what is presenting itself is disconnection due to a difference of type of men, IQ and maturity.

Milo is an example, for some reason he has no problem transitioning or changing his talks with college kids or at interviewing/debating at Skynews regarding major issues like Twitter banning him for NO acceptable reason. Milo is multi faceted Ben could work on that. Milo is trying to help people, he too could care less about money.

Stefan for another example in that he is not interested in the right-left circle in the square rhetoric, just last week he did a must hear presentation on the Fall of Rome. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qh7rdCYCQ_U

Young people, we do not have time or buy into everytime you kids try to co-opt issues, you cannot co-opt gen x, you might win boomers but no more kiddyland. While WND and Townhall are trying their best, the 2000's were already filled with Kyle's, Ben's and other young people trying their best, abandon all that. All of that is in the past.

I hear its complex and a little scary to become a man but I don't believe that. If I can walk away from the wrong family, any other younger person can and should walk away from the wrong people whom are most likely boomers that poisoned you (like Ben). Otherwise he'd be our ally.

I hate to criticize the youth but Ben and other pundits have to grow up, you all have time and youth on your side don't squander it with worst side of history level punditry.

Blogger LP9 Solidified in Gold! Rin Integra August 11, 2016 11:46 PM  

The bifactinal ruling party or the bi farcical not fooling anyone party does not care about Ben or anyone on the false left.

One last final matter unless you can redirect hatred into something productive pulling an invective tone stating, "oh I am glad someone hates me" is very small, put your big boy jeans on and take Vox's advice, its not too late.

Blogger GFR August 11, 2016 11:49 PM  

They wouldnt even take in the lebanese Christians when they fought for Israel against hezbollah in 1982 (or close to then) .

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY August 11, 2016 11:54 PM  

"It is a common trait of the region"
Not this region, Sam. This ain't camel land. although yahooties and thier kin the Mooslimas would like it to be. Sorry, not gonna happen as me and the one that think like me are still around.

Blogger GFR August 11, 2016 11:59 PM  

Sure he can: "I didn't WANT to sleep with her..."

Blogger YIH August 12, 2016 12:05 AM  

The video I (and The Daily Shoah, who has taken several soundbites from it) love is this one.
It so well demonstrates - in his own words - his utter cluelessness.
The first two cartoons he puts up on the screen he claims are ''almost like a middle ages cartoon'' are actually not as old as he is. That one in particular probably dates back to about 1991. It and many others were done by ''A. Wyatt Mann''*, because many of them reference news items from the early to mid 90's, such as Hurricane Andrew, OJ, Michael Jackson, and so on. But the one that really nails him is at about the 2:00 mark, ''a stereotypical badger''. Wrong-o rat boy, it's (NSFW) American Bear, a variation of Spurdo Spärde, the most famous thing to come out of ''the Finnish 4chan'' (yes, there is such a thing) Kuvalauta.
*There are several theories, but no one knows for sure who ''A. Wyatt Mann'' actually is. No one has ever stepped forward to take credit/blame for all those 'toons.

Anonymous andon August 12, 2016 12:08 AM  

don't publish the emails, its a breaking of trust.

makes you look bad instead of him

Blogger GFR August 12, 2016 12:11 AM  

Gotta love the way he took down Piers Morgan however - and his book on debating liberals was useful.
.
Perhaps the biggest difference between the Right and liberals is that we have principals and they don't. Unfortunately that sometimes results in us defending those principals against each other, while the liberals coalesce around broad themes like: "She's a Woman" - and they claim the field that we have abandoned.

Blogger Leo Little Book in Shenzhen August 12, 2016 12:11 AM  

Be more polite to the rabbis, Vox.

What would Jesus do?

Anonymous andon August 12, 2016 12:14 AM  

29. Anonymous BGKB August 11, 2016 7:59 PM

Nigger Felon Legion wont let Cowboys Honor cops but let Rams do BLM.
http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/nfl-denies-cowboys-request-to-wear-helmet-decal-honoring-dallas-police-officers-081116


if anyone here still watches the nfl, that's what you're supporting

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY August 12, 2016 12:14 AM  

You want to know wat this WASP thinks of Yahooties and their kin the Mahometans ? Not damn much, Sam.
I don't give a flying crap what some dumbass said at your " gun club". My "gun club " believes all your sorry asses needs to get whacked, 'cause if you ain't with us, you are damn sure agin' us. Word up, yid.



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Anonymous andon August 12, 2016 12:21 AM  

jOHN MOSBY August 11, 2016 9:50 PM
"Nate, you think like an Anglo."
And what exactly is wrong with that ?
"As an example consider the personal injury lawyer "
Most of them are Jooz. How are you making your point ?


lol, right on

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY August 12, 2016 12:25 AM  

"Japanese have something similar as well. Face is more important than reality at times."
Who gives two hoots in hell about a Jap ?
Vox likes Babymetal, big fuggin' deal.

Anonymous Smile Of the Shadow August 12, 2016 12:25 AM  

Off topic and I apologize -- but I just saw this on my feed https://www.facebook.com/SubterraneanPress/posts/1118975751502738

and it would be amazing if we flooded this with "A Reliable Source" by Vox Day.

Blogger GFR August 12, 2016 12:28 AM  

My observation of male IDF troops is that they're mostly midgets with a handful of giants mixed in. I believe I read somewhere that the jews in Poland made a point of breeding some tall jews in order to keep unruly Poles in their place. Didn't really work out long term.
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Anyhu Benji would fit right in.

Blogger rho August 12, 2016 12:44 AM  

LP9 Solidified in Gold! Rin Integra wrote:Look at Vox, he is not owned by anyone, isn't bought off, doesn't care and really doesn't care about lesser topics. He tries to help those whom are willing to change and listen. Why hasn't Ben read TIA or RGD, Cucks or SJWAL? The refusal to review these 4 books says far more than I could ever post, those books upset Ben's Faith, worldview and make him bristle at being called a Cuck - however I am not name calling merely observing and questioning.

Ben makes a living as a Notable Conservative for media outlets; often available with very short notice. (Rimshot!) He hasn't read any of VD's books for the same reason nobody is inviting VD (or he isn't accepting requests) for TV interviews: they're operating in two entirely different environments.

Whatever VD's advice was a dozen-plus years ago, Shapiro looked at his options, and went with media whore. Hey, there's no inherent shame in that. Ann Coulter does well enough. Ben loses some points for equating media access with media acceptance, but he apparently makes his nut with media access, so the confusion is understandable.

That said, Shapiro handled the tranny who threatened him on the Dr. Drew show pretty well. He may not like the alt-right, but I'd bet that he reads alt-right sites regularly these days.

Say, does anybody else swap (((parentheses))) for Joooooos?

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY August 12, 2016 12:44 AM  

"Be more polite to the rabbis, Vox."

"What would Jesus do?"
Jesus would not be near as nice as Vox.
Not saying that Vox would not tell them about themselves, he damn sure would.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY August 12, 2016 12:50 AM  

"That said, Shapiro handled the tranny who threatened him on the Dr. Drew show pretty well. "
So being a weeping puss is handling yourself well, rho ?
Shut the hell up, you weeping vajayjay.

Blogger EscapeVelocity August 12, 2016 12:56 AM  

Ben Shapiro isnt aspie, he's an asspie.

Bah dum tish!

Primetime Propaganda was pretty good, but he kept on apologizing for the Leftwing Jews...that it was market forces and not hostile Others that were driving the assault on White Ameircan Christendom.

Blogger rho August 12, 2016 12:58 AM  

jOHN MOSBY wrote:weeping vajayjay.

Did you have a link where you faced an angry tranny on national TV in real time, or did you forget to paste it?

I've never met an angry tranny, on TV or otherwise, so I'm impressed with Shapiro.

Blogger Leo Little Book in Shenzhen August 12, 2016 1:00 AM  

Sometimes I post self-refuting arguments as a joke, John.

I wish I could call them straw men.

Blogger EscapeVelocity August 12, 2016 1:00 AM  

But I still like to read Ben Shapiro, like Spengler. You just have to understand their loyalty lies with the Jews.

Anonymous Sam the Man August 12, 2016 1:21 AM  

John Mosby,

You made me laugh:

My kids look like they came out of a Lebenborn establishment, especially my daughter..... a blonde.

I see a redneck horror movie, showing on Monster Chiller Theater:

"Night of the Assimilated Reformed Observers of the Oral and Written Law"

Beware...The Tribe is coming for you...and you cannot tell the difference... until we pee at the urinal...and if you notice then, well you are gay...

Soon you will be watching Ben Stiller/Natalie Portman movies and not realizing that...... well....... that is the big give away so I will not mention it....it's a surprise ending but you will be scared, so scared you will forget to pay your mortgagee and Jew banker will take your land.....



PS. Come out to Camp Perry you southern pussy (unless that is your real name, in which case please accept my sincere apology, I assume it is a nom de guerre) and watch a bunch of ex-New York "Yids" kick your ass with a rifle in the NTI and Presidents and Hurst doubles match.

Toodles,




Anonymous jOHN MOSBY August 12, 2016 1:25 AM  

"You just have to understand their loyalty lies with the Jews."
They need to hie there asses to Israel then.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY August 12, 2016 2:01 AM  

rho.
you are a faggot, need I say more ?
I reckon not.

Blogger Leo Little Book in Shenzhen August 12, 2016 2:02 AM  

He's Ben Shapironed out of the Alt Right and into the Cuck (((Israe)))Lite.

Was Tim McVeigh America's Anders Breivik?

Blogger rho August 12, 2016 2:36 AM  

j wrote:So we could have resolved this at 10-22.

No we could not have, you lying bitch.

I'm done with you you, cunt.


And people wonder how folks wind up dead at the hands of the police.

Blogger Noah B August 12, 2016 3:01 AM  

@28

"On the fence here since I enjoy you both."

I know just what you mean. I love a good cello solo, but sometimes I like to hear cowbell instead.

Blogger rho August 12, 2016 3:18 AM  

Noah B wrote:@28

"On the fence here since I enjoy you both."

I know just what you mean. I love a good cello solo, but sometimes I like to hear cowbell instead.


What a great idea. A cello solo determines authority.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 12, 2016 3:22 AM  

Noah B wrote:I love a good cello solo, but sometimes I like to hear cowbell instead.
Hey, don't knock the cowbell

Blogger Noah B August 12, 2016 3:28 AM  

The cowbell adds flare to many songs. It lacks subtlety and stands out garishly from guitar, drums, and keyboard. A cello just wouldn't be an adequate substitute. Similarly, if I want a view of current events from a diminutive, backstabbing perspective, Vox isn't the best choice.

Blogger Krul August 12, 2016 3:31 AM  

Vox is not a cello. He's a synthesizer

Blogger Noah B August 12, 2016 3:39 AM  

That's awesome Krul, I didn't know that was Psykosonik. It's right there on Youtube above Orbital. Pretty sure I first heard that at a rave where DJ Keoki was mixing.

Blogger rho August 12, 2016 3:46 AM  

Vox is not a cello. He's a synthesizer

Yep.

Blogger Noah B August 12, 2016 3:50 AM  

Fine, faggots. Ruin a perfectly good analogy.

Blogger VD August 12, 2016 3:56 AM  

Mosby, for the love of all that is good and holy, learn to a) stop taking the bait, and b) shut the hell up.

Blogger rho August 12, 2016 3:58 AM  

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Blogger rho August 12, 2016 4:07 AM  

VD wrote:Mosby, for the love of all that is good and holy, learn to a) stop taking the bait, and b) shut the hell up.

VD's awfully good.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY August 12, 2016 4:21 AM  

"Mosby, for the love of all that is good and holy, learn to a) stop taking the bait, and b) shut the hell up."
Agreed, good sir. Thanks be unto you.

109. rho

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY August 12, 2016 4:29 AM  

I agree with you 100




i AGREE WITH 100 PER CENT with you , VOX. rho, fuck him.


Blogger Leo Little Book in Shenzhen August 12, 2016 5:03 AM  

FROM: BenShapiro@thecuckisreal.me
TO: voxday@darklord.edu

Dear Vox,

Longtime closet fan. Please read me a bedtime story for my career.

Lost and confused,
Ben

Blogger Shimshon August 12, 2016 6:20 AM  

How big is Ben's lawn?

Blogger Zach August 12, 2016 7:08 AM  

What ever happened to Shapiro pressing charges against Tur? That would have been worthwhile.

Blogger Zach August 12, 2016 7:08 AM  

What ever happened to Shapiro pressing charges against Tur? That would have been worthwhile.

Blogger Samuel Nock August 12, 2016 7:28 AM  

There are people who want to grow, and there are people who cannot take the pain that growth often involves.

There are people who seek the truth, and there are people who become so caught in a web of falsehoods that seeking the truth becomes too painful for them.

Vox is actually offering Ben a way to become the former type of person. It's up to Ben.

Blogger SemiSpook37 August 12, 2016 10:23 AM  

andon wrote:if anyone here still watches the nfl, that's what you're supporting



After that crap show that was the AFC Wild Card game in Cincinnati in January, not really looking forward to the upcoming season, even if I've been a Pittsburgh fan. I still feel dirty after watching that.

Between that, the ineptitude of Roger Goodell, and all of the SJWing, I'm just tired of it.

Blogger Gaiseric August 12, 2016 10:28 AM  

Sam thre Man wrote:Nate, you think like an Anglo.

There are two types of honor, internal and external.

Internal is motivated by self image and the common definition of honor to westerners. To a westerner a contradiction between his actual behavior and that he aspires to would be shameful, regardless if anyone knew it or not. Vox's comment referred to that, internal western view of honor. Not all people of the world see it that way. To some it is not the internal view but that as perceived by the tribe/in-group that affects societal position or honor.

External honor is guided by external validation and shame. An attack on the image of honor that a particular group responds too will be more effective. The thought that the in group will see him lacking is far more shameful, when to a westerner going against the group for "the right cause is the height of honor" There is an entire set of westerns devoted to that.

This is exactly why I've lost patience with the expression "Judeo-Christian." Is it Jewish? Or is it Christian? They're not very similar.

In any case, I'm happy to hate Ben Shapiro, and if he's glad that I hate him too, it sounds like everybody gets what they want.

Blogger Were-Puppy August 12, 2016 12:17 PM  

@71 Sam the Man
Westerners, because of something related to cold regions or Christianity, have a different way of looking at things.
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You appear completely oblivious to the fact that lil Bennie is a commentator in the United States. Not in the middle east, not in Japan, not in Israel. None of that matters about his perspective, other than to reinforce an idea that maybe he doesn't belong here.

Blogger kurt9 August 12, 2016 12:26 PM  

Ben Shapiro is representative of a far larger problem.

In 2005, you had this 21 year old college undergraduate who publishes an article stating the necessity of an "imperial" interventionist foreign policy. He advocates the invasion of 5 Middle-eastern countries and the removal of their governments for the purpose of re-creating them into modern liberal societies, essentially a repeat of what we did with Japan and Germany during and following WW2.

On the other hand, you have a great many people who are in their 30's to 50's, who have decades of experience doing business or even living in the countries and interacting with the people in question here.

The fundamental question is: in what way is it possible that a 21 year old college undergraduate student have some special knowledge, experience, or perspective that a forty-something who has years of experience of living and working in the region in question not have?

How can a 21 year old college student know something that someone with 20-30 years of real world experience does not?

Do you not see the absurdity of Ben Shapiro and the phenomenon that he represents?

Blogger kurt9 August 12, 2016 12:28 PM  

The far larger problem is the notion that people without life experience somehow magically know something that people with life experience do not. The friend I discussed this with yesterday calls this phenomenon the Culture of Militant Ignorance.

Blogger Were-Puppy August 12, 2016 12:32 PM  

@118 SemiSpook37
Between that, the ineptitude of Roger Goodell, and all of the SJWing, I'm just tired of it.
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Me too

Blogger Leo Little Book in Shenzhen August 12, 2016 12:56 PM  

Judeo-Christian is a misnomer. Judeo is Talmudic, post New Testament.

Only the 50,000 Karaites remain faithful to the Torah.

America is Judeo only in the sense that it is Marxist.

Blogger Geir Balderson August 12, 2016 1:38 PM  

Ben Shapiro appears to be morphing into John Scalzi. I think Ben needs to catch the next train to DOWEGIVECRAP? Anyway, he is arguing himself into irrelevancy. Have a nice life Ben! Better still, take a pilgrimage to Israel and stay!

Blogger LP9 Solidified in Gold! Rin Integra August 12, 2016 1:38 PM  

79 I retract my comment about publishing private emails, foolish comment on my part.

121 after 2004 or 2005 I lost all respect for WND and just followed the blog or Mondays op-ed, I dont know how Ben S was hired and what was Farah thinking, the only matter I point to is WND is ran or there are too many women giving chances to the wrong plants or the wrong kids with pens.

OpenID frankluke August 12, 2016 8:27 PM  

@3 Gone Fishing ‏@jgfleet661
Shapiro kicks the ass of real decision makers in this country in debates. He does with facts not feelings.


Someone actually thinks this about Shapiro?? WTF?

More than one does. I personally know a guy who said he could get behind a Shapiro 2020 campaign "because Ben would debate with facts and they wouldn't know what to do!"

Usually, the guy I know is a better thinker than this, but he's got a blind spot with current politics.

The largest part of the blind spot is how he still thinks that facts will convince leftists. I'm becoming more and more convinced it's a spiritual malady

Blogger Tom K. August 12, 2016 9:16 PM  

It's called positive reinforcement.

And the train is fine.

Blogger Tom K. August 12, 2016 9:19 PM  

I don't know cause I don't care, but her fiance seems just like lil Ben. I guess she likes that pedestal. Most JAPs do.

Blogger LP9 Solidified in Gold! Rin Integra August 13, 2016 1:08 PM  

88, thank you for pointing that out to me, I miss things at times, thanks again, say if you catch me being a moron always call it out - I dont want to live or think in error.

It remains regrettable Ben and others so close to millens and genx wont support the honorable people like a Vox Day and others. Maybe those on the wron gwill change.

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