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Tuesday, August 09, 2016

Globalists caused US decline

Pat Buchanan rightly condemns the globalists for their foolish abuse of American power that has led to a decline of that power:
“Isolationists must not prevail in this new debate over foreign policy,” warns Richard Haass, president of the Council on Foreign Relations. “The consequences of a lasting American retreat from the world would be dire.”

To make his case against the “Isolationist Temptation,” Haass creates a caricature, a cartoon, of America First patriots, then thunders that we cannot become “a giant gated community.”

Understandably, Haass is upset. For the CFR has lost the country.

Why? It colluded in the blunders that have bled and near bankrupted America and that cost this country its unrivaled global preeminence at the end of the Cold War.

No, it was not “isolationists” who failed America. None came near to power. The guilty parties are the CFR crowd and their neocon collaborators, and liberal interventionists who set off to play empire after the Cold War and create a New World Order with themselves as Masters of the Universe.
The USA will retreat from the world whether Americans want to or not, whether the globalists want them to or not, because America has been invaded, parasited, and financially raped, and its military has been methodically misused, since 1965.

The US government is no longer by, of, or for the American people. And that is why it can no longer harness American power. The globalists broke the nation, and in doing so, broke its power.

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82 Comments:

Blogger pyrrhus August 09, 2016 1:35 PM  

Globalism began destroying America 100 years ago....Average GDP growth was at least twice as strong before 1913 as it has been since. In 1913 we got the Fed and the income tax, both “passed” under very suspicious circumstances. Woodrow Wilson later said that signing the Fed creation bill was the worst mistake of his Presidency, and had handed the country over to Wall Street…

Anonymous Sam the Man August 09, 2016 1:40 PM  

Buchanan, much like Enoch Powell was a ahead of the curve identifying all these trends 20 years ago.

Odd that a man with such prophetic vision gets so little respect from the right.

Anonymous Faceless August 09, 2016 1:42 PM  

@2

I have said it enough that I have forgotten from where I got it; probably this blog.

Buchanan is the prophet of our time, because all that is required is that he speak the truth.

Blogger Josh August 09, 2016 1:43 PM  

Odd that a man with such prophetic vision gets so little respect from the right.

No prophet is accepted in his hometown.

Anonymous andon August 09, 2016 1:45 PM  

“Isolationists must not prevail in this new debate over foreign policy,” warns Richard Haass, president of the Council on Foreign Relations. “The consequences of a lasting American retreat from the world would be dire.”

dire to who?

Anonymous Bobby Farr August 09, 2016 1:46 PM  

The military has only been methodically misused since 1965? I would have said it began at least with the playing at empire in the Spanish American War in 1898. It was clearly the case since WWI when the US rejected the founding principle of not being dragged into European balance of power conflicts.

Anonymous Fran August 09, 2016 1:48 PM  

He should run for president or something.

Anonymous Frankenstein McBadperson August 09, 2016 1:57 PM  

The Morgenthau Plan, except for America instead of the Germans.

Why am I not surprised.

(((Off to China!)))

Blogger professorastro August 09, 2016 1:57 PM  

More recently, did the Soviets know they would make us the Soviets when they were no longer?

Blogger Da_Truth_Hurts August 09, 2016 1:57 PM  

#5 yes, just (((who))) will be hurt most?

Blogger Noah B August 09, 2016 1:58 PM  

They lie, as usual. We do not seek isolation; instead we realize the futility and long term detriment of intervening in the affairs of other nations.

@6 You're right. Smedley D. Butler's War Is A Racket dates back to the early 30's.

Anonymous BGKB August 09, 2016 2:03 PM  

“The consequences of a lasting American retreat from the world would be dire.”

"America must not stop sending $8billion a year from US taxpayers to Israel because jews are not smart enough to manage on their own." It would really suck if other nations actually paid for US troops protection, looking at you South Korea.

such prophetic vision gets so little respect from the right.

You should see what happens why you try telling faggots to use condoms instead of Truvada Prep which only protects against non-drug-resistant AIDS, is hard on kidneys/liver, & costs (usually taxpayers or other people on your insurance plan) $1500+ per person per month.

Related to that http://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/gay-meningitis-continues-to-advance-like-wildfire/ The NYC outbreak after hurricane Sandy was traced back to a bathhouse.

Blogger Aeoli Pera August 09, 2016 2:05 PM  

Yup.

Anonymous Longtime Lurker August 09, 2016 2:07 PM  

“Isolationists must not prevail in this new debate over foreign policy,” warns Richard Haass . . .

Isolationists have rarely prevailed in any debate over U.S. foreign policy since the turn of the 20th Century, with the blatant exception of the 1930s, when Congress passed the Neutrality Acts of 1935, 1936, 1937, and 1939.

The obvious difference between then and now is that the United States is so deeply entangled in the world that any refusal to play its traditional balancing/policing role will unleash a multitude of geopolitical consequences, only some of which can be foreseen.

Blogger Nick Siekierski August 09, 2016 2:10 PM  

Pat Buchanan's advisor and friend was Dr. Samuel Francis (even more prophetic and underappreciated than Buchanan IMHO). Besides current affairs, his main area of interest was the managerial state, a concept first developed by James Burnham. Radix has just published Francis's "Leviathan and Its Enemies" which refines and expands on Burnham's work. If Trump triumphs, he'll have a massive federal bureaucracy arrayed against him, filled with professional managers who will fight tooth an nail to retain their positions no matter how unnecessary they are.

It's this entrenched "Leviathan" that needs to be dismantled if there's any hope for whatever policies Trump proposes to not be neutered. I hope Trump doesn't fall into the trap of thinking he can just be smarter and more efficient with the monster that has become the fed gov. There are 2.79 million (!) federal employees. Most of them need to be unemployed or working in private enterprise within the decade or like the Taliban, they will simply wait out Trump's 4-8 year shock-and-awe campaign before coming back with a vengeance.

Anonymous Frankenstein McBadperson August 09, 2016 2:11 PM  

A withdrawal from endless bothering everybody else on the planet is not "isolationism". The US can still remain engaged, powerful and influential, without bothering everybody else on the planet. The only problem is keeping China in check, because those people are crazy, but a world initiative can manage that, it doesn't have to be strictly a US thing. Nabokov in "Ada" had the idea of a US-Russia alliance. I can't think of anything more salutary. Russia would cure the US of its (((insanity))).

The big problem is getting rid of the damn immigrants, so we can be an actual country again. Watch the opening of Hitchcock's "The Birds". Take a look at what's been lost.

Anonymous Bobby Farr August 09, 2016 2:17 PM  

I thought I was supposed to hate Trump because he was a dangerous warmonger and we can't trust his temperament. Is the narrative now that I should hate him because he won't be creating conflict around the world? At least we have the clear record of Obama and Hillary creating peace at home and abroad on which to base our votes.

Oh, and the quote is from (((Richard Haass))). At least that narrative is intact.

Anonymous Random August 09, 2016 2:18 PM  

"Watch the opening of Hitchcock's "The Birds". Take a look at what's been lost."

A world without Rod Taylor is a world without cool.

Blogger Jon M August 09, 2016 2:18 PM  

They are panic stricken that the host body might actually take steps to rid itself of these parasites. Never mind the fact that the host body is dying and won't survive their sucking the life out of it much longer. They'd rather suck out what they can and move on from its desiccated husk than see the host become healthy again.

Vile men, all around.

Anonymous Random August 09, 2016 2:24 PM  

"Vile men, all around."

Someone had their number a long time ago:
"27 Woe to you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites; because you are like to whited sepulchres, which outwardly appear to men beautiful, but within are full of dead men's bones, and of all filthiness."

Anonymous Frankenstein McBadperson August 09, 2016 2:26 PM  

"A world without Rod Taylor is a world without cool."

Well, there's always Neko Case. And Brad Pitt, believe it or not (check out those sword fights in Troy.) Not quite the same thing as Rod, but still capable of saving the world. Maybe.


Anonymous Avalanche August 09, 2016 2:45 PM  

Vox wrote: "The US government is no longer by, of, or for the American people. And that is why it can no longer harness American power. The globalists broke the nation, and in doing so, broke its power."

And this is why Lind's "4GW Handbook" is so eye-opening; a govt MUST have legitimacy in the eyes of the people -- and this govt has lost it!

The two faces of 4GW: govt legitimacy, and vicious fighting between not-in-uniform war-bands is what's happening; the first all over and openly; the second slowly beginning to catch up!

If you haven't read Lind's book -- OMG! Get to it!

Blogger Helixfreak August 09, 2016 2:48 PM  

"We do not have the option of becoming a giant gated community," argues resident of a giant gated community.

Seriously. Richard N. Haass lives in a stately 14-story tower in Manhattan's Upper East Side. He bought the unit for $4.25 million dollars to enjoy its views of the East River, concierge, security, and full-time doorman, where "an elegant set of marble stairs leads down to what was originally a yacht landing."

I am not advocating their use, but the guillotine was perfected for men of such extraordinary hubris.

Anonymous #5454 August 09, 2016 2:48 PM  

The big problem is getting rid of the damn immigrants, so we can be an actual country again. Watch the opening of Hitchcock's "The Birds". Take a look at what's been lost.

I was just watching Peewee's Big Adventure (1985) with my kids and was struck by the stark contrast. You need not go all the way back to the 1960s and Bodega Bay.

Anonymous Random August 09, 2016 2:59 PM  

"The big problem is getting rid of the damn immigrants, so we can be an actual country again. Watch the opening of Hitchcock's "The Birds". Take a look at what's been lost."

Another older film which shows pre-immigration America is the original Invasion of the Body Snatchers. Tight-knit community isn't just a function of the smaller town, it's a function of culture.

Anonymous Philipp August 09, 2016 3:04 PM  

If only the Americans had listened to Buchanan. But he was ahead of his time.

Anonymous BGKB August 09, 2016 3:09 PM  

Watch the opening of Hitchcock's "The Birds". Take a look at what's been lost."...Invasion of the Body Snatchers. Tight-knit community isn't just a function of the smaller town, it's a function of culture.

How would Hitchcock feel knowing his horror thrillers would one day be a better world than America became?

Blogger Mr.MantraMan August 09, 2016 3:12 PM  

The American empire a truly expensive entity to keep in motion

Blogger Zach August 09, 2016 3:18 PM  

@17 Either "Trump is a dangerously unstable warmonger!" or "Trump is dangerously isolationist and will turn America into a Hermit Kingdom!" work, as long as the effect of hating Trump is achieved.

The reasons offered don't have to be rational or logically consistent. As long as one of them sticks, the rhetorical goal has been achieved.

Blogger Robert Divinity August 09, 2016 3:24 PM  

Buchanan was John the Baptist. As for Haas:

I am not advocating their use, but the guillotine was perfected for men of such extraordinary hubris.

It's not so much that you advocate for it as it will happen, as will United States disengagement from the world. If an attempt were made to conscript soldiers in the present environment, things would blow up and burn down domestically rather rapidly even if we disavow violence, to cite one quick example. No one gives a fuck what a parasite like Haas has to say other than "let me pack my bags first."

I thought I was supposed to hate Trump because he was a dangerous warmonger and we can't trust his temperament. Is the narrative now that I should hate him because he won't be creating conflict around the world

This is why the illegitimate and corrupt D.C. cabal have been in such an uproar. Hillary Clinton is prepaid war and Trump isn't.

Anonymous #8601 August 09, 2016 3:39 PM  

@15 - Nick If Trump triumphs, he'll have a massive federal bureaucracy arrayed against him, filled with professional managers who will fight tooth an nail to retain their positions no matter how unnecessary they are.

This is true. The federal civil service in Canada openly cheered when Prime Minister SJW Trudeau was elected and they and took selfies with him.

Anonymous Gen. Kong August 09, 2016 3:45 PM  

@30. Indeed. The Banana Empire's days are numbered. As it was written on the wall in Babylon, so it it being written now: Mene, mene, tekel ….. (tick-tick-tick).

Monsters like Haass (Diabolical narcissists) probably sense its days are coming to an end one way or another. Hanging is much too merciful. A Vlad Tepes would know what to do with the likes of him to give him an inkling of true justice, but their removal is what is important. May it be soon, and may they be reveling in their conceits as Belshazzar was.

Blogger tz August 09, 2016 3:46 PM  

The globalists have had the deal to destroy the middle class for the last few decades.

Go to congress and you can emerge a millionaire even after one term and you can be a lobbyist - you can become an "elite". Just send taxpayer money to the poor, and give breaks to the rich, and send middle class jobs overseas and regulate small businesses into bankruptcy though those used to be paying the taxes, but don't worry, we'll issue debt and have mastered Keynesian perpetual prosperity.

What emerged on both the left and right was a realization that the elite globalists were the enemy - #OccupyWallStreet was the left's version of the alt-right and it isn't occupying but is still there in spirit.

Romney was a globalist bankster.

Obama became one.

Look at everyone running for the GOP nomination. Even Rand Paul was a bit fuzzy.

Sanders and Trump - "I'm not one of them". Hillary is.

There will be a Trumpslide, though I hope he is cautious about his economic and other advisers, many support the banksters.

Blogger tz August 09, 2016 3:50 PM  

@15
If Trump triumphs, he'll have a massive federal bureaucracy arrayed against him, filled with professional managers who will fight tooth an nail to retain their positions no matter how unnecessary they are.

It's this entrenched "Leviathan" that needs to be dismantled if there's any hope for whatever policies Trump proposes to not be neutered. I hope Trump doesn't fall into the trap of thinking he can just be smarter and more efficient with the monster that has become the fed gov.


Yes, but it only takes one government shutdown with the Treasury not issuing checks. And/or to stop issuing treasuries - Trump can impose his own debt ceiling.

Lets see if there will be a Speaker Ryan after tonight he has to work with or if he can pick a better one.

Blogger Nick S August 09, 2016 3:50 PM  

They know not what they do. Regardless of what happens now, the Republican party, as we know it, is toast.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 09, 2016 4:08 PM  

Jsut for reference, the column is here
http://buchanan.org/blog/got-us-endless-wars-125520

Anonymous ZhukovG August 09, 2016 4:13 PM  

Whether Trump wins or loses, the United States as global hegemon is done.

With Trump we may ease off the world stage with the Union and some of our dignity intact.

With Hillary we may enjoy the excitement of playing Fallout 5 in our home towns.

OpenID countenance August 09, 2016 4:22 PM  

Wanna bet that Richard Haass lives in a gated community? Or a rough equivalent.

OpenID basementhomebrewer August 09, 2016 4:23 PM  

ZhukovG wrote:Whether Trump wins or loses, the United States as global hegemon is done.

With Trump we may ease off the world stage with the Union and some of our dignity intact.

With Hillary we may enjoy the excitement of playing Fallout 5 in our home towns.



Now seems to be the time to ammo up. Supply is actually there and prices on most types of ammunition are back down to prices pre-sandyhook.

Blogger EscapeVelocity August 09, 2016 4:23 PM  

In fact the high seas and foreign regions becoming more dangerous to do business is good for American workers and American businesses.

Less US military security, ie world policing will be good for America, making us stronger at the expense of competitors.

Only US shipping should be protected by the US military...for example. Pirates should be encouraged to attack hostile foreign competitors.

Anonymous Elipe August 09, 2016 4:29 PM  

Nick Siekierski wrote:If Trump triumphs, he'll have a massive federal bureaucracy arrayed against him, filled with professional managers who will fight tooth an nail to retain their positions no matter how unnecessary they are.

Welp, looks like we have one job,gentlemen: make noise in favor of bloodily castrating the bureaucracy as coarsely as humanly possible.

Meme it, meme the death of bureaucracy and the onset of human freedom in America. I'll do it, will you do it with me?

Blogger Brian S August 09, 2016 4:30 PM  

basementhomebrewer wrote:ZhukovG wrote:Whether Trump wins or loses, the United States as global hegemon is done.

With Trump we may ease off the world stage with the Union and some of our dignity intact.

With Hillary we may enjoy the excitement of playing Fallout 5 in our home towns.


Now seems to be the time to ammo up. Supply is actually there and prices on most types of ammunition are back down to prices pre-sandyhook.


Don't forget long term water filtration & food storage as well, cheap insurance you can eat even if you never "need it". The more self reliant people there are, the better off everyone is.

Blogger EscapeVelocity August 09, 2016 4:34 PM  

In fact the high seas and foreign regions becoming more dangerous to do business is good for American workers and American businesses.

Less US military security, ie world policing will be good for America, making us stronger at the expense of competitors.

Only US shipping should be protected by the US military...for example. Pirates should be encouraged to attack hostile foreign competitors.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 09, 2016 4:38 PM  

I know Pat has an old-line publisher, but how awesome would it be to get him for Castalia?

Pat's 1st run in 1992 was my first presidential primary vote. Prior to that, WA had a caucus. But in 1988, Pat Robertson had swept the field with discipline, organization and determination. This, of course appalled the WAGOP establishment, especially when his delegates held a prayer vigil on the eve of the convention, that and his sincere anti-abortion position.
So they immediately change the election process in WA so they could better manipulate the outcome.

Nothing new under the sun, Paulites.

Anonymous Shlomo Shekelberg August 09, 2016 4:43 PM  

(((globalists)))

Anonymous BGKB August 09, 2016 4:57 PM  

If an attempt were made to conscript soldiers in the present environment, things would blow up and burn down domestically

Good reason for the draft to affect women, skin in the game.

filtration & food storage as well, cheap insurance you can eat even if you never "need it".

There are Nitrogen packed freeze dried foods that are shelf stable for 30years. 5 gallon buckets of rice/beans should be good for 10years. Fruit/nut trees are important.

OT: Who knew BLM didn't like cops handing out free taxpayer paid ice cream to blacks?
http://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2016/08/09/member-of-presidents-police-task-force-slams-peta-for-teaming-with-cops-to-hand-out-free-ice-cream/

Blogger steve August 09, 2016 5:04 PM  

Ugh. Another valentine to Putin. "Let Russia do whatever it wants or you're asking for war!!" He's gotta be on Vlad's payroll.

Anonymous kfg August 09, 2016 5:13 PM  

"Watch the opening of Hitchcock's "The Birds". Take a look at what's been lost."

What hurts is that I remember it.

Blogger Joshua Sinistar August 09, 2016 5:15 PM  

I can tell you now, that I would no longer consider the United States to be a Superpower. Irregardless of our huge nuclear stockpile, its well known that soldiers are dropping out of the toxic atmosphere of the US Military. It was bad enough that Bush was repeated deploying the same guys over and over again, but Obama's social justice program has led to a mass exodus of the guys who really fight. NATO observers are already sounding alarms that NATO is no longer capable of repelling a Russian Invasion, and it has little to do with recent improvements to their force. Putin has been upgrading his weapons, and made significant advancements, but the real problem NATO has is the reduction in US Military effectiveness due to the major exodus of seasoned and ready combat troops.

Anonymous Be Not Afraid August 09, 2016 5:32 PM  

Vox, thanks for spotlighting Kratman's "A State of Disobedience," which I just finished binge-reading (the e-book is free from Baen!) and which shows one way the collapse of our over-extended Leviathan can play out. I ordered Pussycats as well, that's up next.

Anonymous A Visitor August 09, 2016 5:35 PM  

I HATE the CFR. They are the biggest bunch of asshats around. Haas is a doofus to boot. We had to read his book War of Necessity, War of Choice in grad school. If you want a look into his mind, start there. My loathing of the CFR comes from the fact that they disproportionately wield influence in the Foreign Service, CIA , etc. with disastrous results.

@6 Yeah, spontaneously combusting coal...that never ends well.

@9 They did...watch any former KGB defector talk at length (you can find it on YouTube). They're fully aware of the disinformatzia they were peddling and its long term effects.

"The obvious difference between then and now is that the United States is so deeply entangled in the world that any refusal to play its traditional balancing/policing role will unleash a multitude of geopolitical consequences, only some of which can be foreseen."

@14 This is true. It's also true that the entitlements will soon make up 100% of our GDP. Then, what happens abroad will be of minimal concern. It's better to let go of the rest of the world and tend to our own.

"With Hillary we may enjoy the excitement of playing Fallout 5 in our home towns."

@37 Can we at least listen to Dion as we cap those that attack us?

OT: Reading Caliphate when I'm not working. Man is that solid writing by Kratman!

Anonymous Bobby Farr August 09, 2016 6:14 PM  

In another example of (((Haass)))-like hypocrisy, (((Alinsky)))-eqsque disingenuousness and attempts to demonize commonsense policies in accord with the founding principles, (((Jim Rutenberg))) of the (((NY Times))) argues that objective reporting is nice and all but this election is different. Reporters have to make sure voters know how evil and dangerous Trump is http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/08/business/balance-fairness-and-a-proudly-provocative-presidential-candidate.html?_r=0

Anonymous Noah Nehm August 09, 2016 6:30 PM  

That's also why record numbers of people are renouncing US citizenship.

Blogger residentMoron August 09, 2016 6:32 PM  

Escape Velocity;

No reason shippers can't defend themselves. That used to be the norm. If you're General Dynamics, do you want to sell 1000 weapons to the DoD, or a million to shipping owners?

Blogger Matamoros August 09, 2016 6:34 PM  

On a different subject - Its official - Cat Owners More Sad and Lonely Than Dog Owners

http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/08/09/facebook-study-cat-owners-more-sad-and-lonely-than-dog-owners/

Anonymous Philipp August 09, 2016 6:38 PM  

Meanwhile Clinton is planning to start a war with the Assad government and the Russians.

"The Clinton campaign strategy as listed on its website revives a long proposed, but never implemented, plan to create "safe zones" on the ground for civilians. This would require a de facto no fly zone to prevent air strikes in the area."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/29/hillary-clinton-will-reset-syria-policy-against-murderous-assad/

Anonymous Wyrd August 09, 2016 6:52 PM  

On a different subject - Its official - Cat Owners More Sad and Lonely Than Dog Owners

Not surprising since dogs seek approval while cats demand it. Dogs are on the Right while cats are on the Left.

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Anonymous johnc August 09, 2016 7:01 PM  

Even the Philippines is now pushing the US around.

From Breitbart:

Duterte also praised himself for insulting Americans. "This is great!" he told the audience, "let’s insult them again so these fools try to make amends again." Kerry inked a deal for America to provide the Philippines with $32 million to use in Duterte's war on drugs, a cornerstone of his presidential campaign.


They have no respect for us, even as the US taxpayer slaves to put food on the table only to have much of it taken from him.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 09, 2016 7:11 PM  

johnc wrote:They have no respect for us, even as the US taxpayer slaves to put food on the table only to have much of it taken from him.
You have to admire the gleeful approach to "fuck you" that he has taken.

Literally ZFG.
"Hey, everybody, go kill these guys. No really, just kill them. I'll take care of the legal end."
"The American Ambassador is gay and his shit's all retarded."
"Cool, punch them in the nose and they give you their lunch money. Let's start a club! We'll take turns."

Blogger sfco August 09, 2016 7:14 PM  

To put isolationism in perspective check out "Empires of Trust: How Rome Built--and America Is Building--a New World" by Thomas F Madden. He posits that the reason America and Rome became great is BECAUSE they were isolationist. We depend on our allies and they depend on use but the allies all are sovereign nations and not colonies. It wasn't until near the end of the Roman Empire that all citizens were Roman. For a long time only the Italians were allowed that honor. It is a very good historical analysis.

Anonymous Daniel H August 09, 2016 7:17 PM  

@15, Nick

>>If Trump triumphs, he'll have a massive federal bureaucracy arrayed against him, filled with professional managers who will fight tooth an nail to retain their positions no matter how unnecessary they are. <<

Well Trump has plenty of practice with this sort of problem: "You're fired".

Anonymous Godfrey August 09, 2016 7:22 PM  

Israel has a wall.

Does that make Israel "isolationist"?

I bet most neo-cons live in gated communities.

Blogger OneWingedShark August 09, 2016 7:35 PM  

Nick Siekierski wrote:If Trump triumphs, he'll have a massive federal bureaucracy arrayed against him, filled with professional managers who will fight tooth an nail to retain their positions no matter how unnecessary they are.


Ah but the beauty of being the chief executive would be unilaterally declaring whole agencies to be not constitutionally authorized (like the ATF), dissolving the entire agency and prosecuting its [former] members (and the congresses which passed/funded it) for, say, Conspiracy Against Rights and Deprivation of Rights Under Color of Law.

There's oh-so-many ways to be a dick to those ignoring the Constitution by (a) using the Constitution, and (b) using their own devices against them. -- Like instructing the justices of the supreme court have their property taken via eminent domain under the Kelo v. New London to 'project' how much it would benefit the public to have those assets sold and applied to the public debt. (I'd love to see how quickly they'd overturn it.)

Anonymous andon August 09, 2016 7:50 PM  

OT: interesting bounty on WeSearchr:

https://www.wesearchr.com/bounties/was-lara-logans-career-gang-raped-by-the-rhodes-brothers

Blogger Doom August 09, 2016 8:19 PM  

Huh? I don't think it was blunders. There were probably mistakes, but in implementation, not in known outcome. Their goal was to sack America. And they did it. This wasn't a miscalculation. It was meant to crush Americans back to the poverty of Russian or Chinese "citizens". To steal the wealth and carry as much of it as far away as possible. There was no accidental harm to America. Seriously?

Anonymous AmStrat August 09, 2016 8:41 PM  

Crossing my fingers paul ryan gets ousted tonight.

Blogger JaimeInTexas August 09, 2016 8:44 PM  

@6
I always laugh when people say these uSA were isolationist.

I will throw the suppresion of the Whiskey Rebellion as the first [mis]use. Really, the empire was created with the adption of the Constitution of 1787.

Blogger Cogitans Iuvenis August 09, 2016 8:47 PM  

@59

That isn't exactly true. Non-Italians could earn or be awarded Roman citizenship and any non-Italian who served 20/25 years in the auxiliary forces was granted full citizenship once they were discharged; where do we think Heinlein's federal service requirement for citizenship.

At the same time the Romans also differentiated the degree of citizenship so to speak, for example below the levels of full Roman citizenship there were the Latinate which granted many of the same rights as Roman citizenship.

Anonymous Satan's Hamster August 09, 2016 9:10 PM  

"More recently, did the Soviets know they would make us the Soviets when they were no longer?"

Putin is probably horrified to see what happened to the KGB's subversion programs in America after the Soviet Union collapsed. SJWs are what happens when a foreign country pays the left in yours to subvert your country... and then collapses. The subversives are now completely out of control.

They're still working tirelessly to destroy the military, government, economy and culture so the Soviets can just walk in. But haven't noticed that the Soviet Union no longer exists.

Again, this is largely the fault of cucks in the US government. When the USSR collapsed, they should have collected all the KGB files, held treason trials for every KGB operative in America, and strung them all up pour encourager les autres.

Blogger Lazarus August 09, 2016 9:23 PM  

JaimeInTexas wrote:@6

I always laugh when people say these uSA were isolationist.

I will throw the suppresion of the Whiskey Rebellion as the first [mis]use. Really, the empire was created with the adption of the Constitution of 1787.


I always enjoy the long-cocking about when America stopped being America. Its almost as if it never WAS America.

Well, maybe it wasn't!

Blogger Lazarus August 09, 2016 9:28 PM  

Lazarus wrote:I always enjoy the long-cocking about when America stopped being America. Its almost as if it never WAS America.


This is why people like Neil Diamond and the Easy Rider Crew keep looking for it.

It reminds me of Nasruddin:

A man noticed Nasrudin intently inspecting the ground outside his door.

“Mulla,” he said, “what are you looking for?”

“I’m looking for a ring I dropped,” Nasrudin replied.

“Oh,” the man replied as he also began searching. “Well where exactly were you standing when you dropped it?”

“In my bedroom,” Nasrudin replied, “not more than a foot in front of my bed.”

“Your bedroom?!“ the man aasked. “Then why are you searching for it out here near your doorway.

“Because,” Nasrudin explained, “there is much more light out here.”

Anonymous A.B. Prosper August 09, 2016 9:32 PM  

Satan's Hamster wrote:"More recently, did the Soviets know they would make us the Soviets when they were no longer?"

Putin is probably horrified to see what happened to the KGB's subversion programs in America after the Soviet Union collapsed. SJWs are what happens when a foreign country pays the left in yours to subvert your country... and then collapses. The subversives are now completely out of control.

They're still working tirelessly to destroy the military, government, economy and culture so the Soviets can just walk in. But haven't noticed that the Soviet Union no longer exists.

Again, this is largely the fault of cucks in the US government. When the USSR collapsed, they should have collected all the KGB files, held treason trials for every KGB operative in America, and strung them all up pour encourager les autres.


Easier said than done. The US Elite were often Red sympathizers if not fellow travelers

Roosevelt is an obvious example but there were plenty of others.

Anonymous kfg August 09, 2016 9:50 PM  

"Its almost as if it never WAS America.

Well, maybe it wasn't!"

What America never was was a nation state. That's why it contains states.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan August 09, 2016 10:06 PM  

Can I buy life insurance on Julian Assange?

Blogger Lazarus August 09, 2016 10:48 PM  

Mr.MantraMan wrote:Can I buy life insurance on Julian Assange?

Assange and Snowden are protected by the illuminati credo. They are allowed to report the truth so that everyone who hears it and ignores it are compromised and become complicit in the crime.

Your money will be wasted, unless old age intervenes.

Anonymous bgkb August 09, 2016 11:00 PM  

That's also why record numbers of people are renouncing US citizenship.

Record numbers were renouncing US citizenship before TRUMP. The overseas banking regulations on Americans is awful. Many expats have had banks refuse to deal with it.

On a different subject - Its official - Cat Owners More Sad and Lonely Than Dog Owners

I Hope HilLIARy takes these cat ladies' advice http://fusion.net/interactive/327381/8-women-cartoonists-advice-to-hillary-clinton-2016-dnc/

Someone should tell Joey Alison Sayers we would have a manned base on Mars if we didn't spend, what Paul Kersey calculated, $21trillion failing to make blacks equal.

Anonymous Takin' a Look August 10, 2016 1:18 AM  

@ bgkb

Hell, we'd probably be setting up long term terraforming goals for the inner planets and the Jovian moons.

Anonymous Mr. Rational August 10, 2016 1:56 AM  

@76 The Jovian moons really aren't all that great as real-estate given the lousy atmospheres, gravity and insolation.  Mars is probably our best near-term planet(oid), though I think G. K. O'Neill had the best concept unless we develop gravity control.

Anonymous Takin' a Look August 10, 2016 2:20 AM  

@ Mr. Rational

True, it would be projects requiring centuries, millenia of dedication and tech currently not available (at least to the general public) who knows what the break-away civilisation (per Richard Dolan) has up their sleeves.

Anonymous Euryale August 10, 2016 4:27 AM  

2.2.8.1.2.1. The identity of a people can survive the loss of political sovereignty, and in time recover it. But sovereignty is a meaningless illusion without identity.

Blogger Rusty Fife August 10, 2016 9:21 AM  

bgkb wrote:Someone should tell Joey Alison Sayers we would have a manned base on Mars if we didn't spend, what Paul Kersey calculated, $21trillion failing to make blacks equal.

Sending all the bigots to the moon sounds like the A-Ark. Perhaps they should set aside an island to send the bigots to? Except there are so many, it would have to be a continent. We could call it 'Briar Patch' because it's so prickly and miserable.

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