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Friday, August 19, 2016

Inevitable

I don't think I have ever been so unsurprised by an email in my life. To put it in context, I have to first explain that a producer from an NPR-affiliated radio station contacted me about the Hugo Awards.

As I’m sure you’re aware WorldCon is about to start.... As we’ve been researching and thinking about this event we discovered that in addition to the celebration, learning and networking there’s also a bit of identity politics controversy surrounding the Hugo award. As the conference unfolds we want to host a conversation with members of the Sci-Fi community and how they view the events. Our hope is to get a sense of what’s at stake and why it’s important. We really value having a diversity of perspectives on this issue.

I’d like to talk with you, by phone, today or tomorrow for about 15 minutes. This way we can make sure we're a good fit and develop some potential talking points for what we could discuss during the show.

I had a few minutes to kill, so despite knowing how it was going to turn out, I called him back and we had a short, friendly conversation. He was genuinely curious about what was, to him, quite clearly an alien perspective. And I had to laugh when I got this the next day.

Thank you for sharing your time with us yesterday. I wanted to follow up and let you know that we found some folks who will make a better fit for this conversation and consequently we won’t be needing you as a confirmed guest tomorrow.

You don't say. Anyhow, radio and television producers, this is why I keep telling you that I'm not interested in appearing on your show. See, I know the drill. I've turned down three other interview requests in the last day alone; keep this in mind if you're wondering why various pieces on the Alt-Right often appear to ignore certain individuals you think merit mention. Sure, sometimes it's because they're playing the old "we don't want to give them a platform" game. But more often, of late, it's because we don't see any point in talking to them and playing the token villain's role.

That doesn't mean I won't talk to you all, though. Everyone is invited to the No Award 2016 Party, which will kick off 15 minutes before the Hugo Awards start at 8 PM Central tomorrow night. Special guests to be announced later as they let me know if they'll be able to attend.

Speaking of the Hugo Awards, as the VFM are everywhere around the globe pursuing the shadowy will of their SDL, we have been culturally enriched by several reports from the Worldcon, including this one.

Here is a picture of Rape Rape in the wild. I was stunned by two or three things:
  1. Con attendees are mostly old farts.
  2. They look even more unhealthy than the average crowd in a WalMart on EBT night.
  3. GRRM is a close approximation of the average male attendee.
Watch out, ladies! One never knows what diabolically Byzantine form of nonconsensual relations is being worked out on paper.

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45 Comments:

Anonymous KitF August 19, 2016 6:59 AM  

Oh just swoon at Mr. Tinkle. Begs for a witty caption, but I'm currently trying to get the police to get some enrichment's car shifted from blocking my drive... The disability card has a lower rank than the Jihadi card in Blighty these days.

Anonymous Napoleon 12pdr August 19, 2016 6:59 AM  

I'm waiting for the police vice squad to raid the Hugos and drag a third of the writers off for assorted pedophilia crimes.

Blogger Leo Little Book in Shenzhen August 19, 2016 7:02 AM  

Pic caption:

Planetary attraction.

Blogger Subversive Saint August 19, 2016 7:12 AM  

The guy is worth how much? And dresses like that in public?

Anonymous Spinrad's Agent August 19, 2016 7:15 AM  

And when they interview N.K. Jemisin, pink sci-fi's favourite diversity-assisted starlet, will she demand the NPR-affiliated radio station in question have its full quota of POC sound technicians, interviewers, and such like? Because that's what she said she'd do, right?

Blogger Aeoli Pera August 19, 2016 7:32 AM  

If only they could talk to someone with a more respectable accent, maybe gay?, and at least half-Jewish.

Blogger VD August 19, 2016 7:37 AM  

No, Jemisin would chew them out for interviewing her instead of some other black author. That's her new schtick; I have the impression that she's tired of playing pet Negro for the SF-SJWs.

Blogger Hazim August 19, 2016 7:44 AM  

If I saw that that old guy in public looking like that, I would ask him, "Do you need help finding your group? Does your caregiver know where you are?"

Blogger Nate August 19, 2016 7:53 AM  

Vox is not going to be the Potemkin Village Idiot

Anonymous SciVo August 19, 2016 8:13 AM  

I've turned down three other interview requests in the last day alone

I'm as happy as Peter Gibbons at the end of Office Space that I don't have to deal with that.

Blogger dc.sunsets August 19, 2016 8:15 AM  

There's a direct relationship between character & physical appearance. Once you have enough experience to recognize the wrecked souls and the sociopaths it all falls into place.

Anonymous Bowman August 19, 2016 8:19 AM  

"We really value having a diversity of perspectives on this issue."
What's the point of talking to people who say the exact opposite of truth without flinching?
They actually renounced understanding the meaning of words, and consequently, understanding anything in general.
They are parrots.

Blogger dc.sunsets August 19, 2016 8:21 AM  

I have the impression that she's tired of playing pet Negro for the SF-SJWs.

Even Downs Syndrome people can usually tell when they're being played. It must be devastating to realize that your being cast as the group's Magic Negro doesn't actually come with magic.

Blogger dc.sunsets August 19, 2016 8:25 AM  

I know about "Game" and all, and recognize that Kissinger claimed that power (like he has/had) caused women to throw themselves at him (well into his "looks like toad" stage), so my question is this: The morning after the After-Con party, who wakes up and wants to play "Coyote in a leghold trap" more, GRRM or the woman? (Or, shoutout to BKBS, the other man?)

Anonymous fish August 19, 2016 8:33 AM  

If I saw that that old guy in public looking like that, I would ask him, "Do you need help finding your group? Does your caregiver know where you are?"

Winning!

Blogger Undocumented Pharmacist August 19, 2016 9:16 AM  

... in addition to the celebration, learning and networking..,

What exactly is there to be learned at this gathering? (he asked softly lobbing the ball into the air)

Blogger lannes August 19, 2016 9:33 AM  

Liberals have sown the wind, but we all get to reap the whirlwind.

OpenID tmdfos August 19, 2016 9:34 AM  

Can't say as I've seen GRRM. But then I haven't been looking either. Although I do tend to look like him myself, size-wise, though without the beard. One interesting person I did see is the guy with the neck beard from the picture in the previous WorldCon post. Even more odd from the back as I saw him later as we were going down to another panel.

Blogger dh August 19, 2016 9:56 AM  

I would like to say that despite it being probably an unpopular position, I value and think NPR does the best job in American media right now. Their audience skews wildly liberal, yet they are still closer to center than anyone in straight news. That's not nothing.

They are also the unwanted recipients of government funding, which creates more problems for them than it solves, and I respect that they seem genuinely motivated to get away from both corporate money and government money, which at the station level, they recognize is equally corrupting.

The fact they reached out to you indicates they aren't idiots, but I would imagine that whoever else they had on pitched a fit and no platformed you pretty quick. That's everyones prerogative (but the audience suffers).

Blogger dh August 19, 2016 9:59 AM  

They are parrots

Yes, this is generally true. Most news media is now about presenting a few "sides" equally about an issue and not making much of a statement.

This is, at this point, fairly neutral to positive to the alt-right, because if this wasn't the case, the SJW left would no-platform any non-conformers even more by enforcing the narrative totally to news coverage.

Essentially, the SJW left is not powerful enough at this point to no-platform Trump, so they at least have to cover him. As we saw in the primaries, there is power to that.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents August 19, 2016 10:08 AM  

The guy is worth how much? And dresses like that in public?

Eh, he lives in Santa Fe, "The City Different" he could walk around in pink yoga pants and no one would comment.

Blogger residentMoron August 19, 2016 10:14 AM  

The press is a gang of cruel faggots. Journalism is not a profession or a trade. It is a cheap catch-all for fuckoffs and misfits—a false doorway to the backside of life, a filthy piss-ridden little hole nailed off by the building inspector, but just deep enough for a wino to curl up from the sidewalk and masturbate like a chimp in a zoo-cage.

― Hunter S. Thompson, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas

Anonymous Darwin is a Harsh Mistress August 19, 2016 10:15 AM  

Dear God, they are worse than the Saturday crowd at Wal-Mart. Ugly fat people should have the decency not to attract attention to themselves, let alone dictate to the rest of us.

Having said that, they are merely fulfilling their Manifest Boomer Destiny as History's Chosen People. While they cling to power, control, and life itself by their fingernails, their mortal demise is in sight.

We must be prepared to act swiftly once their odious, parasitical generation goes to meet its Maker. If we do not fill the (abundant) power vacuum immediately and convincingly, someone else will.

Blogger Brian S August 19, 2016 10:36 AM  

VD wrote:No, Jemisin would chew them out for interviewing her instead of some other black author. That's her new schtick; I have the impression that she's tired of playing pet Negro for the SF-SJWs.

an unfiltered interview where you ask her some un-PC questions could be really interesting ;) No idea if she's game for it or not tho.

Blogger Zeke OF Confettii August 19, 2016 10:50 AM  

So glad I walked away when I discovered that anyone to the right of Lenin was ... not welcome.

Blogger Escoffier August 19, 2016 11:16 AM  

Bowman wrote:"We really value having a diversity of perspectives on this issue."

What's the point of talking to people who say the exact opposite of truth without flinching?

They actually renounced understanding the meaning of words, and consequently, understanding anything in general.

They are parrots.


That is a blatant insult to the Parrot community good sir. Parrots are at the very least cute and entertaining.

Anonymous #1037 August 19, 2016 11:30 AM  

At least Rape Rape isn't wearing that stupid Greek fisherman hat.

Blogger RobertT August 19, 2016 11:42 AM  

I think I know that guy. Isn't he the guy who hordes paper in his car?

Blogger Sam Lively August 19, 2016 11:46 AM  

@19

NPR goes into greater depth than any of the commercial news sources, but I don't see how they are closer to the center.

It's been a few years since I listened to them regularly, but when I did (2007-2010) I found their panels to be massively, laughably leftist, and their viewpoint almost identical to the hard left BBC.

Blogger bob k. mando August 19, 2016 11:47 AM  

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Blogger Were-Puppy August 19, 2016 12:33 PM  

Uh oh, the last time I attended one of these parties, I changed from SadPuppy into Were-Puppy :P

There may be hope for those yuuuuge attendees, after all.
http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2016/08/17/arizona-man-loses-300-pounds-daily-walks-walmart/

Blogger Were-Puppy August 19, 2016 12:38 PM  

@18 tmdfos

One interesting person I did see is the guy with the neck beard from the picture in the previous WorldCon post. Even more odd from the back as I saw him later as we were going down to another panel.
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If you saw that guy from behind, did it look like a pterydactyl nest with a big meat colored egg in it?

Blogger lowercaseb August 19, 2016 12:39 PM  

Lord bless the Hugo attendees. I have an office dweller's physique and looking at some of those photos I feel like a Nietzsche-an Superman. Poor ol' GURM looks like he is in full cardiac arrest in that photo.

Blogger Were-Puppy August 19, 2016 12:44 PM  

I hope the dark ninja of mockery attends and posts running commentary in the chat log.

Anonymous VFM #5429 August 19, 2016 12:51 PM  

Haven't listened to NPR in 20 years. I gotta stay awake when driving. The stories were clogged with dead air, sound effects, and slow talkers. The commentators would breathe into the mic to sound ponderous or something and the interviewers sounded like they were on Xanax.

Thanks for taking time to reconfirm the prior pattern recognition, Vox.

Blogger Grandpa Lampshade August 19, 2016 1:15 PM  

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Blogger Grandpa Lampshade August 19, 2016 1:17 PM  

LOL Weev trolled the guy from Time and told him he had to pay him to be interviewed.

Blogger Jimmy The Freak August 19, 2016 3:29 PM  

Wait, that's not Rape Rape, that's my elementary school bus driver! And here I thought i successfully suppressed those memories.

Blogger dh August 19, 2016 5:07 PM  

bob k mando--

I don't think you can produce a quote from a recent NPR official that they can't live without Federal funding. In the infamous O'Keefe sting video, the NPR official told him straight up that they'd be better of without the Federal funding and they are working to reduce it. It's already only about 10% of their budget, down from about 70%.

I think that your information is not up to date with reality.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/should-npr-lose-its-federal-funding/

You may be thinking about PBS, which causes a huge Big Bird related shit-storm when Congress hints about defunding it. Both NPR and PBS receive tax payment money from a public-private corporation called the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, which make grants to the big producers as well as local stations.

NPR itself is a fairly small operation and would probably not be largely impact by defunding.

Blogger dh August 19, 2016 5:10 PM  

NPR goes into greater depth than any of the commercial news sources, but I don't see how they are closer to the center.

It's probably because if you look only at it as right-left US politics, it will appear they are pretty much the same as corporate media sources.

But the big thing they do is to have non-corporate and even anti-corporate messages represented, which virtually *never* make it to ABC, CBS, or NBC and rarely make it to any mainstream source. You sometimes get an anti-corporate or non-corporate message from the alternate media, but that's somewhat iffy.

The BBC is, for example, hard left, or at least, hard left of the British public at large on average, but they are also very friendly towards big business, or any Crown corporation (essentially their siblings). They are also pro-government and now fairly pro-monarchy. Simply calling them hard left isn't a good description of reality. It's not enough information.

Blogger VD August 19, 2016 7:09 PM  

Lose the constant vulgarity, Bob K. Mando. I'm going to start deleting all of your comments that contain it.

Blogger Roger G2 August 19, 2016 9:29 PM  

"RapeRape in the wild." I had a good laugh at that one.

BBC nature documentary narrator: "RapeRape in the wild....evolved over eons to cunningly stalk its prey, RapeRape glances askance at its next snack...."

Blogger The Aardvark August 19, 2016 10:13 PM  

I've been an SF con huckster/dealer/vendor/whatever bloodless word is currently chic since 1980. Yes. GRRM looks like Everyman at SF cons. Despite his success, he still looks like the typical denizen of, say, Southron fandom. The woman in the picture is far more fit than most in SF fandom.

I do anime cons, now. The attendees tend to be better to look at, and they don't waste my time trying to "fix" my shirt designs, as the SF-ers tend to feel called to do. (That alteration tends to making the design more prolix, and NO ONE wants "War and Peace" on a t-shirt.)

OpenID tmdfos August 20, 2016 1:24 AM  

@were-puppy I think it would probably have been better if it had looked like that. Unfortunately the reality was worse and the best way I could describe the back of him would be to say that if you letterboxed him and had the upper black bar cut off the balding dome and the lower cut at the waste he'd be a trap and you wouldn't know exactly what it was. He has long, flowing, curled locks that are a sight to behold, if you can hold your lunch.
I would have replied this afternoon but google's blogger capture seems to hate my itouch device and then afterwards I was too busy to figure it out as I was yelling at Mr. Clarke of Clarke's World after he turned his back on Trusdale (sp?) and clutched his pearls in tolerance.
And it's very late now after spending the last 4hrs at Sad Puppy party suite and having a jolly old time not being triggered by a damn thing!

OpenID denektenorsk August 20, 2016 7:21 AM  

The Hugo party sounds amusing Master, but I shall be on a plane to your neck of the woods this evening...

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