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Thursday, August 04, 2016

Mailvox: the philosophy of failure

HD would like to avoid wallowing in disappointment and failure:
Will Wheaton's latest post at his blog illustrates why I read your blog way more than I read his. It seems that every one of his blog posts is about him and his "woe-is-me" life stories. Whereas, at Vox Populi there is no Vox Day crying about how he can't do anything, get acting jobs, or anything about his "woe-is-me." In short, Wheaton's blog is really just solely about him and your blog is about what's happening in the United States and the world and not about Vox Day.

In regards to Wheaton's latest blog post about not getting acting jobs, I'm fairly confident it is because he is a prima Donna and is probably a very high maintenance person to work with.

I get the feeling if I hired Will Wheaton for a speaking engagement I would have to hold his hand throughout the entire process, acquiescing to his demands to placate him. Whereas, if I hired you, I wouldn't have to worry about you much. I suspect it would consist of making the arrangements in a straightforward manner with you and having you show up to do your part with little worry on my part.

Personally, I'm trying to escape the category that Will Wheaton is in. In my younger days I was that person who was that prima Donna, high a maintenance person to be friends with and be around, and now don't have too many friends to speak of now. But I'm putting myself on a course to change that.

I appreciate the blog posts you have done about failure and writing. They've helped to put some things in perspective and have gotten me to think more about the course of my life.
I had no idea what he was talking about; I didn't even know Wil Wheaton had a blog. But I found the post to which HD was referring and here is a brief summary of Wheaton's complaints:
  • We can’t seem to get our careers back where we want them. We’re both having the same frustrations and hitting the same closed doors 
  • I couldn’t even get an audition. It’s really frustrating, and if I’m being honest, it’s depressing as fuck.
  • I go back and forth between giving up entirely on having on-camera work, and focusing on writing and voice acting, and working as hard as I can to get back in front of the camera
  • Everything I’ve been doing the last several years just isn’t working.
It's rather amusing to read this sort of whining, considering that I saw an episode of one of the most popular television shows in America, The Big Bang Theory, last night, and not only Wheaton, but even his podcast, was heavily featured. He can't figure out how to take advantage of that?

Now, I don't know if he actually has a podcast or not, but Wheaton gets far more free exposure from his modestly successful acting career than any other blogger, podcaster, or writer on the Internet. Due to that free exposure, his writing and ancillary activities get far more attention than anyone not named "Bill Simmons". Can you even imagine Stefan Molyneux or Mike Cernovich crying about that sort of thing? I know there are still some people who are dubious about the socio-sexual hierarchy and all, but this sort of thing demonstrates how even very high levels of success and fame are not capable of filling the endless hunger for approval in some men.

Can you even imagine how Wheaton going to react once he figures out that he's not being published because he's got any literary talent, or has anything interesting to say, but because he's a moderately famous actor? Does he really not realize that many people, like John Scalzi, are only "friends" with him because he happens to be of use to them at the moment?

He must, on some level, as that partially explains why he's so desperate for more success and fame. Wheaton is afraid that if he can't maintain his status, everyone is going to consider him to be a fraud and abandon him. But who cares if fair-weather friends abandon you? They were never worth anything from the start. Only those who stand by you in times of difficulty matter. And once you have accomplished something, no one can take that away from you.

Life is a challenge. It is a constant series of challenges. But what makes us feel successful is rising to meet those challenges and surmounting them. If life knocks you down and no one deigns to give you a hand up, then push yourself back to your own damn feet. If no one wants to take you by the hand and guide you along the easy path while telling you how wonderful you are, then carve out your own way, even if doing so is laborious and difficult. Trust me, it will be much more rewarding in the end.

You never know what challenge life will send at you next. Last night, I had the distinct pleasure of practicing with my eldest son's new team; my veteran's team doesn't start until next week, and at this time of year, every team is happy to have an additional practice body. Despite my being twenty years older than everyone, it went pretty well, as I not only scored the first goal in the scrimmage but was even asked to play with them in their first team's first friendly. Score one for the old guys!

But that's not why I was so pleased about the practice. What made me happy, what was genuinely heart-warming, was seeing my son take the field for the first time in 21 months, run at the front of the pack during the warm-up laps, and participate in the drills and the scrimmage like the healthy young man that he is. Brainstormers know what I'm talking about. And here is the thing. During those hellish 21 months, he never once complained about the pain, whined about being unable to play with his team, or cried about how unfair it all was. He just soldiered on, did what he had to do to get better, and now, almost two years later, he's back on the field again.

He's never going to play professionally. Given the disruption in his development at a fairly critical stage, he may not even be able to play for our club's first team like some of his former teammates are already doing. But he already feels like more of a success than Wil Wheaton ever will, because he has conquered a long and difficult challenge through faith, courage, and willpower. And I would not be more proud of him if he was signed by AC Milan tomorrow.

Do you want to stop being a prima donna? Do you want to stop being a self-pitying, high-maintenance person that no one likes to listen to or be around? Do you want to stop navel-gazing and start accomplishing something that will let you know what success feels like? Then stop thinking about what others can do for you and start thinking about what you can do for yourself and for others. The world existed before you. It will exist after you. Don't waste whatever time you have by dwelling on your disappointments and feeling sorry for yourself.

And don't ever worry about what other people think about you, because 99 times out of 100, they're not thinking about you at all.

Fail faster. Then pick yourself up and move onto the next challenge. As every gamer knows, if no one is shooting at you, you're not going in the right direction.

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104 Comments:

Blogger The Kurgan August 04, 2016 7:13 AM  

Auguri! Felice per tuo figlio.

Anonymous Baseball Savant August 04, 2016 7:16 AM  

This is very apparent in the bodybuilding world as well. I've only been peripherally associated with the industry the last couple of years because I've seen such an explosion in my own growth, but it's amazing how much whining goes on with some of the top level guys. Somehow they are being wronged.

Blogger rumpole5 August 04, 2016 7:22 AM  

Perfect subject timing with article posted on Drudge re: Clint Eastwood, and "pussy generation - fucking get over it". I don't want to start another Boomer rant cascade, but sometimes I just have to roll my eyes at the "problems" that the Millennium snowflakes trot out. Kudos on having raised a Western man, Vox, we are in short supply of them right now.

Blogger Whisker biscuit August 04, 2016 7:32 AM  

I think Will knows Big Bang Theory is winding down, and his tiny slice of fame will be extinguished.

I also imagine he wonders why he's not in the new Star Trek movies, too. Similar to Allen West back in the day complaining about not being cast as Batman.

Blogger Orville August 04, 2016 7:34 AM  

@3 Eastwood had a lot to say in relation to this. It wasn't always easy for him either, and he's teaching his son the same thing. Read the Esquire Article.

Blogger Doom August 04, 2016 7:45 AM  

I wouldn't care if he bitched and moaned. Not doing so is somewhat unnatural. Heck, a good paper-cut and I might let off a yeowl. Though, too, life isn't fair. Which is only a problem if you, for whatever reason, thought it should be or would be.

As to Wheaton, look... he wasn't picked because he was smart. Given how Hollywood runs, it might have been because he was sexy to whoever was making the call. Or worse, perhaps the casting couch, it happens. He can't seem to capitalize because he isn't a capitalist. He sold whatever for whatever and doesn't have anything else anyone else wants to buy. Even his free adverts are just rent-free usage, though he could easily gain from it if he had a clue. I don't think he is alone in Hollywood. Though even some of the bimbos have learned to stretch it out a bit longer.

Go get em'. Twenty years might not all be in the mind but it isn't all in the body either. And it isn't always a disadvantage. Break a leg. Hrmmm, is that a appropriate term in Italy? Or is it more like 'slit a throat'... not sure how they term things. Best of luck, I guess.

Blogger Nate August 04, 2016 7:50 AM  

"Wheaton is afraid that if he can't maintain his status, everyone is going to consider him to be a fraud and abandon him. "

well... the fact is... most people who befriend Wheaton are in fact using him for his status. So if he loses that status... he loses them. In Will's case... this fear is entirely rational.

Blogger bob k. mando August 04, 2016 7:54 AM  

Does he really not realize that many people, like John Scalzi, are only "friends" with him because he is of use to them at the moment?


weird.

my working assumption is that all of my friends haven't figured out how to tell me to 'get lost' without causing a scene.

the idea that people want to know Hwill Hwheatthins because he's internet famous completely eludes me.

OpenID paworldandtimes August 04, 2016 8:02 AM  

Wheaton's blog is really just solely about him and your blog is about what's happening in the United States and the world and not about Vox Day.

"Poetry is not a turning loose of emotion, but an escape from emotion; it is not the expression of personality, but an escape from personality. But, of course, only those who have personality and emotions know what it means to want to escape from these things."
-- T.S. Eliot

PA

Blogger Brian Niemeier August 04, 2016 8:05 AM  

"But who cares if fair-weather friends abandon you? They were never worth anything from the start. Only those who stand by you in times of difficulty matter."

Amen. One benefit that comes in a time of crisis is learning who really has your back and who just talks a good game till the chips are down.

I was recently blessed to find out that practically all of my friends and allies can be relied upon--this blog's proprietor and more than a few of its readers included.

Anonymous Eduardo August 04, 2016 8:15 AM  

Unless you are the Sniper... Then getting shot or helping your team is a huge no-no

Know how hard is to keep 3 bases in battlefield 4 when 3/4 of your team are snipers??? Exactly it is fun!!! (Spartan mentality)
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Wil's life sucks at least on the friend-front. Sucks more then having only leftist friends and becoming right-wing and just feeling like a an ugly duck, or becoming the Ugly Duck on whatever issue really, or becoming some secluded person hateful of the world...

The guys life is just an eternal approval through somebody else thing, being gamma-ish myself, I find that unacceptable. To me that is total and complete slavery.

Blogger JV Small August 04, 2016 8:21 AM  

And don't ever worry about what other people think about you, because 99 times out of 100, they're not thinking about you at all.


That right there pretty much sums it up. It also explains why I find a lot of people incredibly boring.

Most people seem to have an amazing inability to discuss anything in any depth, outside of pop culture. How much of this is cultural, and how much of this is subcultural is beyond me. Cultural referring to statements we've all heard about not discussing God, religion or politics in the work place. Subcultural referring to the inability of liberals to avoid doing the latter and sometimes the former.

Of course, I'm assuming that this is not the case on this blog as most people here are going to be in the upper strata intellectually. Which typically argues for having interests outside of what is foisted upon the nation by people seeking to undermine its social, economic and cultural integrity.


Blogger U PC BRO? August 04, 2016 8:22 AM  

As long as TNG stays in syndication, and it doesn't seem to be going anywhere, his residual checks will keep coming in. Plus, he has the benefit of being able to do appearances at conventions for $. Try breaking into the acting or literary world while you're waiting tables or driving a truck, fucker.

Anonymous Spartacus xxxxx August 04, 2016 8:29 AM  

A. The last line in the Wheaton bleed-out: …I really want to do more on-camera acting work, though. I miss it. I wish there was some way to convince Hollywood to give me a chance, because everything I’ve been doing the last several years just isn’t working.

B. I saw an episode of one of the most popular television shows in America, The Big Bang Theory, last night, and not only Wheaton, but even his podcast, was heavily featured. He can't figure out how to take advantage of that? -VD

A study in contrast.

Blogger Melampus the Seer August 04, 2016 8:30 AM  

Yes. Apply the will and simply move on. The problem is that many men have been conditioned to avoid applying their will. They let things happen rather than make things happen. That's why sports, particularly combat or contact sports, are so important. They train the will like no other.

Anonymous Dyskord August 04, 2016 8:39 AM  

Will Wheaton is a natural whiner I recall that Felicia Day made a film/ web series ??? IDK I dont follow her but anyway she invited all her friends to star. It was a success in their little circle of the internet but Wheaton never got a call. he whined about that too.
Vox is right about the guy having huge publicity from Big Bang Theory but being completely inept on capitalizing on it.
But in fairness he plays himself. The himself on the show is pretty dull and gives off the superior Geek vibe. Neither endearing or mildly likeable.

Blogger Worlds Edge August 04, 2016 8:40 AM  

The odd part here being when Wheaton made some keynote speech at a World of Warcraft convention the attendees were in equal parts embarrassed (for him), enraged at his ignorance of the game and came away feeling like they'd just been completely patronized (which they probably had been).

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/3ruclu/wil_wheaton_is_terrible/

And...Wheaton rated himself a "solid B+," though I can't find the link off-hand.

Anonymous Faceless August 04, 2016 8:40 AM  

His professional life will remain rudderless until he returns to his one talent, the Amiga Video Toaster 4000. I post this on Wil Wheaton stories for his benefit.

Anonymous Faceless August 04, 2016 8:45 AM  

Remember on of the reasons the Bible condemns acting:

The actor can lose himself.

Mr. Wheaton played a little bitch on Star Trek. It would have been better for him to have never had that role. It was the opposite of the resourcefulness of the boy in Stand By Me. He's stuck forever being Wesley Crusher, and having those words put in his mouth - of a whiney brat who squanders his talent, then fails to even show the courage of his convictions.

Anonymous Thales August 04, 2016 8:49 AM  

"Woe-is-me, I make a small fortune in residuals and never had to work a day in my life after age 20. Life sucks." -- Will Wheaton

Blogger dc.sunsets August 04, 2016 8:49 AM  

Aren't the Big Bang stars getting a reported $1 million per episode? Wheaton probably gets a rounding error of that for his appearances.
Ouch.

Blogger dc.sunsets August 04, 2016 8:52 AM  

Whiney people & 1/4 of women on antidepressants.

Symptoms of a society having experienced too long a period of perceived comfort and safety.

Nothing sets up failure like success.

Anonymous Darth Wheatley #2415 August 04, 2016 8:59 AM  

Don't be a dick...

SJW's always project.

Seriously, he's so Gamma, it hurts to watch. And to think I used to somewhat respect him. He never grew out of that awkward 14-year-old "trying to find himself" teenager phase.

Blogger Undocumented Pharmacist August 04, 2016 8:59 AM  

I ask this completely without malice, but how many on-cameras roles are there for pudgy, weepy gammas who only know how to play themselves? His character on TNG sucked, which means he is best known for playing a sucky character. As stated above, that is totally hurting whatever career he could have had.

The actor who played EPA guy from Ghostbusters and the reporter in the Die-Hard movies was awesome at those parts. Got type-cast I'm sure, but still I've never seen Wheaton do anything 1/100th as good.

Anonymous Dyskord August 04, 2016 9:02 AM  

I found this.
Couldn't resist posting it.
[im]http://i.imgur.com/PhRvQ2n.png[/im]

Anonymous johnc August 04, 2016 9:03 AM  

The actor who played EPA guy from Ghostbusters and the reporter in the Die-Hard movies was awesome at those parts.

Didn't he also blow up the Hindenburg?

Blogger Chase August 04, 2016 9:04 AM  

I've seen Wheaton in a couple of syndicated BBT episodes. The reason he can't get an acting gig is he's not a very good actor. He plays a version of himself on the show, and can't even sell it. Someone has to have told him this explicitly; the market is telling him this implicitly. Find something else.

Blogger Mountain Man August 04, 2016 9:05 AM  

When I was in college I became really good friends with a guy in my program who was 15 years older than the rest of us kids. This guy had lived a lifetime by age 35. Wild adventures, kicked demons etc...and here he was getting a degree.
Anyway I distinctly remember us once hanging out, eating lunch in the cafeteria, and I was babbling on about my "feelz" regarding what others thought about me. He just looks at me and just says " its really the height of selfishness to believe that most people ever think about you at all"... " people are too wrapped up in their own worlds to really care"
Twenty two years later his point still sticks with me.

Anonymous Zippy August 04, 2016 9:06 AM  

I don't know why he can't get acting jobs.

I mean, he was great on Criminal Minds where he played a psychotic loser with an underwear fetish. What an actor!

Anonymous andon August 04, 2016 9:12 AM  

3. Blogger rumpole5 August 04, 2016 7:22 AM
Perfect subject timing with article posted on Drudge re: Clint Eastwood, and "pussy generation - fucking get over it". I don't want to start another Boomer rant cascade, but sometimes I just have to roll my eyes at the "problems" that the Millennium snowflakes trot out. Kudos on having raised a Western man, Vox, we are in short supply of them right now.


agree with this generally but I also wont forget clint taking what, a quarter mil to represent GM and current occupant in some commercial about how things were going great when they weren't and arent. Then he showed up at the repub convention and pretended to still be a conservative. he's basically a whore. just like arnold - "sure ill play tennis in a dress if you pay me enough."

as for wheaton I hear there isn't much call for white actors in hollywood now so I hope he's a big fan of open borders

Anonymous NateM August 04, 2016 9:15 AM  

"Whereas, if I hired you, I wouldn't have to worry about you much"

I see Vox requesting a quiet room with an espresso machine in it, where he would either 1) sit for a several hours reading without needing to so much as talk to anyone or 2) showing up roughly 10 minutes before the speaking engagement and going on without much fuss.


The interesting thing about Wheaton's blog is that it doesn't occur to him to simply pursue other things that could be just as rewarding financially and moreso professionally as cameo appearances on a sitcom. Or hell, it DEFINITELY doesn't occur to him to improve his appearance/fitness. While there's plenty of roles for the young teen he once was, there's very few for the dumpy, overweight 40 something he is now.

In terms of other pursuits, just off the top of my head I know he lent his name to a beer. He homebrews, he can talk about nerdy pursuits, and just generally be in front of people. He could start a beer label, a podcast, hell he could release videos on self help or how to that his audience would eat up. He has a huge following with self described nerds, so anything he did he could have an instant fan base. SUre that doesn't guarantee success, but having eyes on something he starts would put him ahead of most people doing the same.

Lets face it, if you're in your 40s and your name isn't Clooney, Pitt, Depp or Jackman, chances are you've achieved about the level of fame you're going to in acting. Fair or not, it's a fickle business. I think in some post on AG there was a statement that if someone lacks that popularity it can seem as if everyone makes a conscious effort to deny them any social proof. Well in Hollywood, it seems like when an actor is on the outs it works about the same way, where Everyone just seems to ignore even someone who used to be fairly successful. Wheaton can either dwell on what he CAN'T do or do one of the million other things that ISN'T that. Which seems like the better bet.

Blogger Josh August 04, 2016 9:20 AM  

Glad to here that your son is doing better Vox.

Blogger Josh August 04, 2016 9:26 AM  

And don't ever worry about what other people think about you, because 99 times out of 100, they're not thinking about you at all.

This is excellent advice.

Anonymous Athor Pel August 04, 2016 9:27 AM  

" 16. Anonymous Dyskord August 04, 2016 8:39 AM
Will Wheaton is a natural whiner I recall that Felicia Day made a film/ web series ??? IDK I dont follow her but anyway she invited all her friends to star. It was a success in their little circle of the internet but Wheaton never got a call. he whined about that too.
..."


He did play a role in "The Guild" but only after it reached a certain level of popularity. The show was shot on a shoe-string budget and I doubt anybody got paid anything in the first few years of its existence. I'm guessing Will got paid in continued web exposure as well as getting to perform "on-screen", which for him it seems is better than doing voice acting work.

Blogger VD August 04, 2016 9:36 AM  

showing up roughly 10 minutes before the speaking engagement and going on without much fuss.

It's usually more like 5 minutes, but yes. I often scare people waiting for me because I am unusually quiet when I move around and they don't realize I am there until I say something.

Spacebunny has been threatening to put a bell on me since the first month of our marriage.

Anonymous Sheiko29 August 04, 2016 9:36 AM  

"Fail faster. Then pick yourself up and move onto the next challenge."

And seek out failure. If you are the strongest guy at the gym, you are at the wrong gym. Smartest in class, wrong school. No victory in being the biggest fish in a puddle.

Anonymous NateM August 04, 2016 9:41 AM  

"The actor who played EPA guy from Ghostbusters and the reporter in the Die-Hard movies was awesome at those parts."

It's true, Your honor, this man has no Dick.

The polar opposite of Wil Wheaton is an actor I have great respect for, Ron Perlman. The dude has just basically stuck it out in his career, taken what he needed to take to keep it afloat, and never complained about it being beneath him to do certain types of roles. His careers has included a lot of the same notes as Wil's, including voiceover work. Hell he's one of the few celebs anymore I care to really follow. He just seems grateful for the success he's had, that he's been able to make a living this way for so long. And he WAS only in his 40s when his careers started going anywhere. And in his 50s when he actually landed major starring roles like in SoA and Hellboy

Anonymous andon August 04, 2016 9:42 AM  

@ 36 Sheiko - good reason to visit this site

OpenID E August 04, 2016 9:42 AM  

Its worse than that. Wheaton had the chance to have one of the greatest recurring roles on BBT. He started out as Sheldon's arch enemy. He could have been the equivalent of Seinfeld's Newman. But I suspect he couldn't handle acting the part of Sheldon's enemy. So in later episodes he became friends with Sheldon. Now Wheaton has no conflict with Sheldon and no reason to show up in further episodes.

Anonymous Captain Picard August 04, 2016 9:44 AM  

"Shut up, Wesley!"

Anonymous BGKB August 04, 2016 9:48 AM  

As every gamer knows, if no one is shooting at you, you're not going in the right direction.

As a former travel temp who realized If I got shot in the parking lot of a place I worked at I would ask an ambulance to take me elsewhere. I have gone where they are not shooting at me.

I also imagine he wonders why he's not in the new Star Trek movies, too.

He could have been gay Sulu's husband.

convince Hollywood to give me a chance, because everything I’ve been doing the last several years just isn’t working.

He is way too old for the (((Casting))) couch.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan August 04, 2016 9:52 AM  

I'll bet a dollar he doubles down on the soc jus angle.

Anonymous WaterBoy August 04, 2016 9:53 AM  

Maybe his good friend John Scalzi can get him a gig on his hit new show, Redshirts.

Blogger VD August 04, 2016 9:55 AM  

Better yet, his good friend John Scalzi can hire him to write the books that he isn't writing.

Blogger Anachronda August 04, 2016 9:57 AM  

The odd part here being when Wheaton made some keynote speech at a World of Warcraft convention...

He MCed the costume contest.

Anonymous Broken Arrow August 04, 2016 9:59 AM  

Bruce Campbell said years ago that if you are good, and professional you can make a living as an actor in Hollywood. You'll never be a star, or be filthy rich, but you'll have steady work. He said the lack of professionalism is what does in many if not most aspiring actors and actresses.

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus August 04, 2016 10:01 AM  

So what you're saying is that someone "crushed" Wesley's hopes and dreams?

OpenID denektenorsk August 04, 2016 10:04 AM  

It would seem that "whiney bitch" comes naturally to him. No wonder he pulled Wesley Crusher off with flying colours. The more you know...

As it so happens I work with a gamma who I like to think of as the illegitimate love child of Scalzi & Wheaton. Same beard, same squinty piggie eyes, same annoying outlook on how others should comport themselves. He has very strong opinions until someone disagrees in person. Then the back pedalling starts...

Blogger Were-Puppy August 04, 2016 10:15 AM  

But who cares if fair-weather friends abandon you? They were never worth anything from the start. Only those who stand by you in times of difficulty matter.
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Great point - people should realize this in their teen years, if not sooner.

Anonymous 5343 August 04, 2016 10:16 AM  

VD wrote:Better yet, his good friend John Scalzi can hire him to write the books that he isn't writing.

Maybe we should open the border to people willing to write the books Americans won't write ...

Blogger calebjames August 04, 2016 10:17 AM  

Talk about not complaining. I have read this blog for years. Did not know anything about a injury/illness.

Anonymous BluePony August 04, 2016 10:18 AM  

Nothing wrong with voice work, Wil. An entire generation knows Mark Hamill as the voice of the animated Joker. Kevin Conroy is *the* voice of Batman for many.

"I really want to do more on-camera acting work, though. I miss it. I wish there was some way to convince Hollywood to give me a chance

So go out and make something.

Anonymous 5343 August 04, 2016 10:21 AM  

OT - Photo-essay project for our Steve: What real-life lesbians look like (as opposed to all the super-hawt straight actresses that play them on TV).

Anonymous BluePony August 04, 2016 10:23 AM  

"The polar opposite of Wil Wheaton is an actor I have great respect for, Ron Perlman. The dude has just basically stuck it out in his career, taken what he needed to take to keep it afloat, and never complained about it being beneath him to do certain types of roles."

Ron knows it's a war out there, and that war never changes.

My favorite of his roles is still from Beauty And The Beast.

Anonymous Susan August 04, 2016 10:25 AM  

As a parent of two kids myself, I can tell you that there is no greater agony in the world for a parent than when their child is hurting in any way, and no greater pleasure on earth than when that child has recovered from that pain.

I imagine that 21 months is exactly like God felt about His own son Jesus. A child hurting just sucks the soul right out of your heart.

I always had the feeling that Wheaton was very aware of how his character came off to viewers of STNG. As long as the money kept coming, he really didn't care.
Exploiting that annoying part of you will only get you so far in your career. He has a really REALLY bad agent IMO.

Anonymous Spartacus xxxxx August 04, 2016 10:25 AM  

Dyskord wrote:I found this.

Couldn't resist posting it.


http://i.imgur.com/PhRvQ2n.png

And the man holding the girl has an injured hand to boot.
Speaking of great art, this reminds me of the impeccable composition in "Gamma With Mattress Girl".

Anonymous Bz August 04, 2016 10:28 AM  

Wil Wheaton and John Scalzi, Riker refuses his own command. Just throwing it out there.

Blogger Ingot9455 August 04, 2016 10:29 AM  

@52 Wil Wheaton was Aqualad and Cosmic Boy. Who can argue with getting to play the Magneto of the DC universe? (Strangely, Cosmic Boy was written as a Wil Wheaton character in that episode.)

Blogger steve August 04, 2016 10:34 AM  

You mean he can't make a living from Tweeting every time someone misuses a gun?

Blogger Josh August 04, 2016 10:35 AM  

Wil Wheaton and John Scalzi, Riker refuses his own command. Just throwing it out there.

Does Nate know?

Blogger Bard August 04, 2016 10:36 AM  

I didn't know your son was hurt/sick as it is not something you would share here. I am very glad he is doing much better.

Blogger Brian S August 04, 2016 10:36 AM  

can you imagine having a guy like Wheaton around during any sort of hardship, even something as simple as a overnight backpack trip?

Blogger VD August 04, 2016 10:38 AM  

Riker was offered his own ship? And he TURNED IT DOWN?

Anonymous Mr. Rational August 04, 2016 10:42 AM  

NB:  both links in the post are to Wheaton's blog.  The first one was supposed to be to whoever referenced it.

Blogger VD August 04, 2016 10:46 AM  

The first one was supposed to be to whoever referenced it.

No, it wasn't.

Blogger Eric Mueller August 04, 2016 10:51 AM  

Ever since the last post on Wheaton, every time I hear of him opening his mouth, I want to shout "Shut up, Wesley!"

His acting range does appear very limited. The character in "Criminal Minds" was pretty much the same character he played in Eureka, only he actually killed people. He was also a homeless guy in CSI. His acting didn't vary one bit. I've never seen BBT, and don't plan to start now.

They did shoot footage of him in the last TNG movie (Nemesis), but didn't use any of it. In one scene, he was JUST off camera, which means not on camera.

Anonymous Longtime Lurker August 04, 2016 11:05 AM  

Unsolicited Advice Alert: Wil Wheaton needs to ask himself, what would Wesley Crusher do?, and just do it. That would at least get him out of his rut.

Blogger Nick S August 04, 2016 11:06 AM  

I guarantee Wheaton's fragile ego has turned down work.

Anonymous Mr. Rational August 04, 2016 11:32 AM  

VD wrote:No, it wasn't.
Then where's the link to HD's piece?  I have no idea who he is and would like to read it, but both links are to wilwheaton.net.

Blogger Josh August 04, 2016 11:38 AM  

Then where's the link to HD's piece? I have no idea who he is and would like to read it, but both links are to wilwheaton.net.

It might be an email he sent to vox.

Blogger Chris Lopes August 04, 2016 11:49 AM  

The whole point of his book "Just a Geek" was how he had to stop seeing himself as an out of work actor and start seeing himself as a writer. Sounds like he is regressing.

Anonymous fop August 04, 2016 11:50 AM  

Wheaton will earn mega-residuals - I'm talking G6 money - likely for the rest of his life and into his kids and grandkids lives.

If he ever actually had a good idea he could get it made with a little bit of effort and a few phone calls.

So we can conclude that he either has no good ideas, no drive, or is universally despised.

Blogger dienw August 04, 2016 11:54 AM  

Life is a challenge. It is a constant series of challenges. But what makes us feel successful is rising to meet those challenges and surmounting them.

This. Am I successful; am I making money; No; but I get back up. And I keep painting.

It is best to confront failure and hard knocks early in life; because in late life these hard knocks hit harder because otherwise you have no endurance.

Blogger VD August 04, 2016 11:55 AM  

Then where's the link to HD's piece? I have no idea who he is and would like to read it, but both links are to wilwheaton.net.

What part of "mailvox" did you find hard to understand?

Blogger Kallmunz August 04, 2016 11:56 AM  

On the one hand you have to feel sorry for the guy. I went through a woe-is-me phase in my teens, it's a miserable hell, can't even imagine what it would be like decades later. Given his fame it's highly unlikely that anyone will give him the straight truth that he could find on this blog. Even Scalzi, as transparent as he is, pretends that nothing bothers him. In truth, there is probably no hope for Willy due to his beliefs.

Anonymous HalibetLector August 04, 2016 12:11 PM  

E wrote:Its worse than that. Wheaton had the chance to have one of the greatest recurring roles on BBT. He started out as Sheldon's arch enemy. He could have been the equivalent of Seinfeld's Newman. But I suspect he couldn't handle acting the part of Sheldon's enemy. So in later episodes he became friends with Sheldon. Now Wheaton has no conflict with Sheldon and no reason to show up in further episodes.

Bingo. He had recurring roles on Eureka and Leverage as villains who always lose and he was great at it. Who doesn't want to see a smarmy asshole get what's coming to him? If he focused on being a memorable professional villain, like Mark Sheppard has, he'd have no problem finding roles. But, I doubt his ego would let him.

Anonymous BGKB August 04, 2016 12:19 PM  

Riker was offered his own ship? And he TURNED IT DOWN?

I heard NATE was offered $200 more than he paid for his glock and turned it down.

Anonymous VFM #6306 August 04, 2016 12:34 PM  

Not only does Wheaton have a blog, but he was one of the first "big" (ie noticed by the media) celebrity bloggers. He parlayed that into a memoir (that didn't sell to his liking because he got "screwed" by the publisher) and a cameo in a Star Trek movie (that got cut because "directors suck") and his public comeback (which is now meaningless because he needs permission to be creative.)

That's the problem with Gamma: because he can't fail...he can't taste a drop of the success that comes his way. Everything is because of other reasons. Perhaps he should consider a career in puppets.

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus August 04, 2016 12:54 PM  

@ 52 - An entire generation knows Mark Hamill as the voice of the animated Joker

Mark Hamill. Wasn't he the guy who played Han Skywalker in those Star Trek movies back in the late 1970s?

Anonymous Mr. Rational August 04, 2016 12:54 PM  

VD wrote:What part of "mailvox"
My eyes tend to skip over post titles and go to the content.

did you find hard to understand?
I plead selective blindness.

Blogger Teri August 04, 2016 12:55 PM  

@37, you've hit on it in an offhand way. The missing piece is gratitude. You have to be grateful for the things in your life. It's the big problem with Millennials (at least the ones I know). The ones that are grateful are happier and more successful. If Wheaton doesn't appreciate the things that he's accomplished, there's no way for him to move on to a new level.

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus August 04, 2016 12:56 PM  

@ 76 - I heard NATE was offered $200 more than he paid for his glock and turned it down.

I've been offered four times what I paid for it for a Marlin 9 carbine camp gun. Sweet little shooter.

Anonymous EH August 04, 2016 1:03 PM  

"Don't waste whatever time you have by dwelling on your disappointments and feeling sorry for yourself."

Good advice. Even better, don't waste whatever time you have by dwelling on Wil Wheaton's disappointments and Wil Wheaton feeling sorry for himself. Complaining about annoying people such as W.W. is totally OK, though, and fun.

"Do you want to stop being a ... person that no one likes to listen to or be around?" Which is the worst form of caring what other people think. The reason to not be self-pitying is that it isn't fun and it doesn't lead to anything positive. OTOH success that's only in one's own opinion is probably imaginary. Not caring what any given person thinks, not caring what most people think - good. But not caring what anybody thinks is more than halfway to psychosis; rejecting what everybody thinks is all the way around the bend.

The specific common attitude of others that one has to reject in order to surpass them is "the law of Jante", summarized: "You are not to think you're anyone special or that you're better than us." Giving any space in your head on any matter to those that take that attitude is taking the advice of your biggest enemies, who are all the more dangerous because they are often friends, family members and people in your community. Flipping to the opposite view without objective grounding runs the risk of "secret king syndrome" or megalomania, so it's best not to give other people's opinions undue weight whether in agreement or rejection.


Blogger Marsh 01701 August 04, 2016 1:32 PM  

I appreciate VOXs wide ranging blog about everything but mostly about gamma-people, it helps me with my own special snowflake status. This is where I go to learn how to learn true adulthood.

Blogger Owen August 04, 2016 1:33 PM  

Well said, sir! I really only know Wheaton through references in the Family Guy, when Stewie pronounces it hweaton, it's an ongoing gag on that show, like cool hwip.......

Anonymous andon August 04, 2016 2:21 PM  

Wheaton is what the MSM wants white males to be

he has no real voice of his own

OpenID ghost-tiger88 August 04, 2016 2:21 PM  

This was truly inspiring Mr. Day. Your writing of this post was truly an act of generosity. Thank you.

Anonymous andon August 04, 2016 3:19 PM  

And don't ever worry about what other people think about you, because 99 times out of 100, they're not thinking about you at all.

even better is to let people laugh at you. dress like a slob or a nutjob - wear a coat and a beanie on a hot summer day, have a crazy look on your face, etc. after a while you figure out that you can live without their approval

Blogger clk August 04, 2016 3:37 PM  

The fact is the WW has more than 99% of the people on the planet ...happiness is a matter of perspective...he needs to get some here.

Blogger synp August 04, 2016 4:51 PM  

It's the nature of acting.

What about his co-workers from TNG? I think Patrick Stewart had more screen-time post TNG than the rest of the regular cast put together.

What about Leonard Nemoy? He played one of the most iconic roles in American television ever. What non-Spock role did he play after that? The rich villain in that one Columbo episode? And don't give me "In search of...". He totally plays Spock there.

When big-budget movies need a 40-something, they go with the likes of Matthew McConaughey or Matt Damon. They bring in the big audience. What's Wil's career going to be like? Probably more like Richard Thomas ("John-boy Walton"). Everyone remembers his big role, and everyone remembers the quote "good night, John-boy", and he's had a few starring roles in movies soon after, and regular acting work pretty much all the time since then. It's fine. There's a legion of bus-boys in LA who would kill for a career like that. It's not Brad Pitt, Tom Cruise or Matt Damon, but that's what regular success looks like in acting.

Anonymous A Paradigm is More Than Twenty Cents August 04, 2016 4:57 PM  

Abstractly what Wheaton got rich doing was showing up and emoting. He shows up on TNG, emotes, and gets paid.
Nowadays he shows up on Twitter but doesn't get paid. Huh. Go figure.

Looks to me like he may be catastrophizing, seeing every and setback as OhNoesItsTheEndOfLIfeAsIKnowIt. If that's true then advising him to fail faster is like suggesting perpetual torture.

Catastrophic thinking is a thought pattern, a habit. Like paying WoW endlessly. Or reading romance novels endlessly. Etc. The way to stop doing it is to divert thoughts somewhere else, anywhere else. "Power of positive thinking" may seem cornball, but it can work.

Wheaton's 1% first world problem is not interesting, but the kind of "oh, no, woe is me!" catastrophic thinking he seems to be doing can paralyze. Anyone looking at him and saying, "mm, I do that sometimes" needs to self-assess and correct.

Blogger epobirs August 04, 2016 5:16 PM  

Perhaps Wheaton doesn't realize how many people outside his echo chamber have been completely alienated by his IRL behavior on places like Twitter.

I've met him a few time at places like the NAB (National Association of Broadcasters) convention in Las Vegas, where he was in the Play booth, promoting the product as a guy who dug the tech, not as a celebrity. I forget the site (TV Squad?) but he had a pretty funny series of reviews of ST:TNG episodes that I suggested should be continued until he had enough for a book.

Years later, though, he never missed an opportunity to take a severe stand on various issues that were sure to put many in opposition to him unlikely to patronize his work. I may not have have sunk in for him that many casting directors are reluctant to hire someone whose public stances draw more attention than the movies or TV shows they appear in. In doesn't matter much for people of very high status. While I've met numerous people who would never pay money to see anything with Jane Fonda in the cast, it probably hasn't cost her any jobs she really wanted. People of lesser star status don't enjoy that protection if they choose to go divisive in their public life.

During the Michael Brown shooting idiocy, Wheaton posted a tweet in which he referred tot he cop in the incident as 'the monster Darren Wilson.' That was the end for me. He made himself such am immense asshole in my eyes I can no longer bear to watch anything he appears in. I'm just one person but if the entertainment industry thinks there are enough who feel the way I do, it is going to be career poison.

Anonymous andon August 04, 2016 5:21 PM  

During the Michael Brown shooting idiocy, Wheaton posted a tweet in which he referred tot he cop in the incident as 'the monster Darren Wilson.'

who's fault is that though?

he's just another dupe of the MSM

Blogger epobirs August 04, 2016 6:13 PM  

@92

Nonsense. That is buying directly into the narrowest and most slanted interpretation of the events. Contrary information was widely available from even MSM sources. Wheaton believed the worst of the cop, who had never fired a single shot previously on duty, because he chose to buy into a particular worldview.

Blogger Aeoli Pera August 04, 2016 7:00 PM  

And don't ever worry about what other people think about you, because 99 times out of 100, they're not thinking about you at all.

That's going in my little book of proverbs.

Blogger Aeoli Pera August 04, 2016 7:02 PM  

clk wrote:The fact is the WW has more than 99% of the people on the planet ...happiness is a matter of perspective...he needs to get some here.

Happiness is gratitude.

Blogger Aeoli Pera August 04, 2016 7:08 PM  

andon wrote:And don't ever worry about what other people think about you, because 99 times out of 100, they're not thinking about you at all.

even better is to let people laugh at you. dress like a slob or a nutjob - wear a coat and a beanie on a hot summer day, have a crazy look on your face, etc. after a while you figure out that you can live without their approval



Failing the preselection heuristic isn't the takeaway lesson here. If A is stronger than B, it is likely that A is faster than B, and this doesn't rise to the level of people "thinking" about you. They will only be "feeling" about you, and it won't be a good feeling. (This heuristic fails at the high end where specialization is a better heuristic.)

Blogger Natalie August 04, 2016 8:29 PM  

Something finally clicked for me reading this - the whole "grow a pair because no one is that obsessed with you" attitude is very foreign to me, and I think it's because my mom was a narcissist who seemed to wait for us to trip up in some previously unspecified fashion. She was past mistress of the covert contract and could be very unpleasant.

I'm now wondering how much of this naval gazing paralysis is a result of constantly trying to please BSC moms? Because if there's one think you DON'T learn when walking on eggshells is how to go your own way and let other people do the same.

Anonymous BGKB August 04, 2016 8:57 PM  

The fact is the WW has more than 99% of the people on the planet ...happiness is a matter of perspective...he needs to get some here

People on welfare in white nations are better off than the majority of people on the planet.

Anonymous Ellipsis Lacuna August 04, 2016 9:35 PM  

'Does he really not realize that many people, like John Scalzi, are only "friends" with him because he happens to be of use to them at the moment?'

He's been working in Hollywood his whole life, I'm sure he's aware of that phenomenon and probably doesn't care. He probably does the same with those further up the ladder who he thinks can help him too.

Blogger Lovekraft August 05, 2016 6:14 AM  

Of course SJWs always double down so it is unlikely other sjws will see the Wheaton example and pack in the whining thus continuing the cycle of leftist/PC propaganda.

Anonymous Wendy August 05, 2016 9:40 AM  

So glad to hear Ender is better!

Anonymous BGKB August 05, 2016 2:39 PM  

If he had a clue he could do something on the level of the Guild, but I realized that even the profitability of "Where The Bears Are" is beyond him. That is a combo of golden girls & murder she wrote staring hairy gay guys, only a minority of which are in shape, available on amazon with starting episodes on youtube. Someone should buy all 5 seasons for him as a gift to rub in his face how bad he is.

Anonymous Bowman August 06, 2016 12:21 PM  

Wheaton is the typical leftist, he has plenty of opportunities to expand his business, his show TableTop, his geek public image, the fame of BBT, but he dismiss them because they are too logical, too down to Earth.
Leftists hate reason & reality.
They want status & magic.
They loathe the builder & praise the thief.

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