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Thursday, August 11, 2016

Star Trek goes full SJW

The inevitable convergence of Gene Roddenberry's vision is Star Trek Diversity:
After Star Wars was rebooted with a female heroine, Rey, at the center, the other famous space franchise is taking a similar route with the new series Star Trek Discovery for CBS All Access. I’ve learned that the show, from Bryan Fuller and Alex Kurtzman, will have a female lead and she likely will be non-white.

William Shatner, Chris Pine and Scott Bakula might be the better known Star Trek stars, but there was a Star Trek series, the 1995-2001 Star Trek: Voyager on UPN, that had a female lead: Kate Mulgrew, who played Commanding Officer Kathryn Janeway.

Still, Star Trek Discovery possibly will boldly go where no other Star Trek installment has gone before: with a woman of color as the lead. I hear virtually all women seen for the part so far — and there have been a lot of them as the casting process has kicked into high gear — have been African-American or Hispanic.

No one has been cast yet, so it is possible that the role ultimately could go to a Caucasian actress, but the intention is to go diverse.

As for what that lead role is, there had been speculation that it is the captain, but I hear that likely is not the case.The Star Trek franchise is known for its inclusiveness, and the new series will try to continue that tradition. I hear that that there will be a an openly gay character on the show. (Of course, there also is expected to be a Klingon).

“Star Trek celebrates diversity,” Fuller said at the Star Trek 50th anniversary panel at Comic-Con last month.

UPDATE: Later this afternoon, during a CBS All Access panel at TCA, Fuller confirmed that the lead in Star Trek Discovery will be woman and that she IS NOT a captain, but “a lieutenant commander with caveats.” He also confirmed that the show will feature a gay character.
A black, lesbian female lead. That's so totally new! She should go nicely with the black female James Bond, the black female Dr. Who, and the white lesbian Luke Skywalker. So, Star Wars is fully converged, Star Trek is fully converged, and Pink SF is fully converged. The famous Chesty Puller quote seems appropriate here:

"We've been looking for the enemy for some time now. We've finally found him. We're surrounded. That simplifies our problem of getting to these people and killing them."

This is actually very good news, because we all know what happens to converged institutions. What it means is that we now have the chance to replace them, and we are, in fact, already working on that. I'm not going to go into more details, except to say that we will be introducing several new series that are likely to be of considerably more appeal to the longtime fans of certain existing science fiction franchises than the converged versions of the franchises.

We're not going to step on any toes, of course. That would be foolish and is completely unnecessary. But just as 50 Shades of Grey proved more popular than the Twilight books that inspired it, I suspect our new science fiction series, the first books of which will appear in 2017, will be received very well by science fiction fans.

The Pan-Galactic Divergence might not be the heroes you're accustomed to, but they just might be the heroes you need. And as long as we're on the subject, I have to say that I find it rather amusing that the SJWs still haven't realized that they are the Borg.

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148 Comments:

Blogger Josh August 11, 2016 1:03 PM  

Hasn't Star Trek been converged since the beginning?

Blogger Unknown August 11, 2016 1:06 PM  

@1 Yes, but the writers didn't treat the convergence as a plot point.

Blogger 1337kestrel August 11, 2016 1:10 PM  

I hope they cast Black Hermione. Bakula and Patrick Stewart were great actors.

Blogger Ben Cohen August 11, 2016 1:10 PM  

You see this play out in so many shows, especially the female "badass" theme. There's almost always a tiny woman who can wrestle and beat up big men and is an expert shot at the bow/gun.

It's easy to see the propaganda in each TV show/movie and star trek has been like this from the beginning.

Anonymous Random August 11, 2016 1:11 PM  

It's nice of them to broadcast their intentions ahead of time like this. It saves me the time and effort of watching the show, realizing it's converged, and shutting it off in disgust.

Blogger Were-Puppy August 11, 2016 1:11 PM  

They are worse than borg. They are more like Replicators from SG1. They literally termite through everything and leave nothing behind but refuse.

Blogger Brian S August 11, 2016 1:12 PM  

have you seen the convergence in Battlefield 1? It's gonna be a true "world war" game

Blogger Were-Puppy August 11, 2016 1:12 PM  

Star Trek is literally going to end up in E Plebnista land

Blogger lubertdas August 11, 2016 1:14 PM  

I could never stomach ANY Star Trek series beyond the original 60's version. I tried to watch TNG, but Wesley Crusher killed any chance at enjoying the show.

I'd tune in occasionally after that, but the creeping socialism was a huge turn off for me.

The final straw was the episode "The Pegasus", wherein we're supposed to believe that Star Fleet, and the Federation would hold to a treaty even when it was against the best interests of the members of the Federation--complete lefty political tripe.

I was done with it back then, I've got less than zero interest in it now.

Blogger 1337kestrel August 11, 2016 1:14 PM  

They could have a crew of Orion Slave Girls acting as privateers / spies in an armed merchant vessel. Not very Trekkish, but likely to get better ratings.

Blogger SemiSpook37 August 11, 2016 1:15 PM  

Well, seeing as how I watched Trek for the technobabble and not for the social justice BS, I guess I'll just do my catching up on Person of Interest and kill my CBS subscription.

This is the same reason why I didn't watch Voyager: because it's just boring. Granted, I could take Kate Mulgrew in small pieces, but really, the whole premise was just boring as hell.

Anonymous vonsteuben August 11, 2016 1:19 PM  

Tragic always how the SJWs can't merely make their own superheros or SF franchises. They have to instead take and corrupt established characters and stories that the rest of us cherish. Kudos to Castailia. When you go back to the roots of Sci Fi and Fantasy, you can make a great new franchise. The left can't. That's why we will win.

Blogger VoodooJock August 11, 2016 1:19 PM  

They need to cast Leslie Jones as the lead. Boldly go where no man has, or wants to, go. Until the Borg take to twitter.

Anonymous Headcannon August 11, 2016 1:21 PM  

"He also confirmed that the show will feature a gay character."

You mean like every other show on television? How bold and new!

Blogger Whisker biscuit August 11, 2016 1:22 PM  

Maybe Whoopi will make a comeback!

Blogger Timmy3 August 11, 2016 1:22 PM  

I actually did watch all the Voyager episodes with the female captain and I had to quit watching Enterprise with the male captain. Voyage, despite the female captain, wasn't all high morals and preachy compared with Enterprise, which has a very annoying doctor character. These Star Trek shows are already diversity oriented. Why not just take it a bit further with female and gay characters? Occasional alien and cross-species sex are featured. Ambiguous gender roles are plot points. The real issue is not that it happens, but they are on a morals high horse in how they approach it today. They take sides.

Blogger Anchorman August 11, 2016 1:23 PM  

Nothing like creating character(s) that can never have real flaws. That's quality writing and a formula for success.

Blogger Were-Puppy August 11, 2016 1:29 PM  

Won't this make that Scalizi guy irrelevant?

Anonymous WinstonWebb August 11, 2016 1:29 PM  

Even George Takai thinks Star Trek is too gay these days.

Anonymous fop August 11, 2016 1:30 PM  

"Safe-space....the final frontier."

Blogger Brian Niemeier August 11, 2016 1:30 PM  

My conversations with self-styled conservative SF fans have tended to go like this lately:

Me: Trek really went overboard with [latest brazen attempt at pandering to victim group X].

SF Conservative: You're surprised? Star Trek has been leftist propaganda since day one!

Me: OK. Let's stop paying them to insult us.

SFC: But then there won't be any more Star Trek!

OpenID paworldandtimes August 11, 2016 1:32 PM  

Anyone else remember Space 1999 from the seventies?

PA

Blogger dc.sunsets August 11, 2016 1:33 PM  

I can only imagine the spine-tingles awaiting viewers. Or tingles. Eh, whatever.

So CBS thinks the time is ripe for Sci Fi Guys-in-girls'-bodies.

Does anyone actually watch that stuff? SciFi Channel already has a few, and they look to me to be circling the drain. Space Opera meets Soap Opera, and the lather wins.

Blogger Were-Puppy August 11, 2016 1:33 PM  

Yes, I loved that show as a kid

Anonymous BGKB August 11, 2016 1:35 PM  

Just wait until extra terrestrial languages start being included in the GLTB string http://www.gaypatriot.net/2016/08/10/number-of-genderssexuality-variants-exceeds-letters-in-the-earth-alphabet/

will have a female lead and she likely will be non-white.

Captain Shitika Cook of the SS Dildo

I hear that that there will be a an openly gay character on the show. (Of course, there also is expected to be a Klingon).

Will Wheaton could have played Sulu's husband.


No one has been cast yet, so it is possible that the role because they didn't realize the reason Morgan Freeman has all the black roles is because no other black can remember 2 sentences so they can shoot a scene without editing.

Even George Takai thinks Star Trek is too gay these days.

He didn't want Sulu to be gay he wanted a fresh gay character

OT: I wonder if Macys would be doing better if they didn't diss TRUMP http://finance.yahoo.com/news/macys-says-shut-100-stores-122009689--finance.html

Blogger dc.sunsets August 11, 2016 1:35 PM  

@22, no, but I well recall Battlestar Galactica and its hilarious space battles where fighters swoop and dive like they choreographed the CGI from WW2 gun camera footage. I guess they were aiming at a viewer a bit short of vector mathematics.

Blogger JWM August 11, 2016 1:37 PM  

Eh- Even Rocky Horror is getting a remake with a blag queen.
Nothing is safe.

JWM

Blogger dc.sunsets August 11, 2016 1:38 PM  

BGKB, think of the story line fodder offered by all the different men who can father Shatika's kids (yes, she's lez, but my guess is she'll turn pansexual as soon as CBS realizes Pan is the new Gay.)

I figure at least six episodes per sperm donor and all the drama to ice that cake.

Anonymous Jess August 11, 2016 1:44 PM  

Aren't we really due for an openly-gay female Klingon of color? Why can't they be inclusive for once?

Blogger CarpeOro August 11, 2016 1:44 PM  

paworldandtimes wrote:Anyone else remember Space 1999 from the seventies?

PA


I recall the show and was a fan.

No mentions of Deep Space 9? I watched that for awhile, can't recall why I stopped. The war that was going on in the later part was interesting (that I can recall).

Blogger Nate August 11, 2016 1:44 PM  

"The Pan-Galactic Divergence might not be the heroes you're accustomed to"

Should be a metal band name.

OpenID b1bae96e-6447-11e3-b6bb-000f20980440 August 11, 2016 1:44 PM  

Voyagers problem wasn't Kate, it was that the 80 smartest and most abled people in the known universe ended on that ship.

I rather liked Sisko, then again black people on TV were allowed to have flaws in the 90s.

I don't know why lt. commander is the rank. Unless she was busted down for a bad attitude and its Star Fleet that is the ultimate bad guy, Section 31 style or whatever.

Still I appreciate the information. This saves me from having to pay money to CBS. I will just catch it when it gets dumped on Amazon or Netflix, whoever they have the deal with.

The real crime here is against the Trekkies, who the studio knows they can feed dog shit to and still get paid.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 11, 2016 1:44 PM  

Sci-Fi, the Final Frontier. These are the voyages of the franchise Star Trek. Their 12-episode mission, to boldly go where, well everyone has already gone, really. Like,we were there FIRST damnit! We did it first! Interracial sex? First! Black captain? First! Woman captain? First! Inter-species sex? First, Damnit! FIRST! We don't have to prove anything!

And we're gonna go with Wanda Sykes for the captain. Because we're original.

Blogger JRH, esq. August 11, 2016 1:48 PM  

Wait, they are so advanced they don't need money anymore, but they haven't found a cure for gay yet? That's just not credible.

Anonymous Broken Arrow August 11, 2016 1:48 PM  

This is barely a move for ST. I'm more interested if they introduce Pagan spirituality in it, in a big way. ST has been giving up on materialism for some time and the next step is equating spirituality (while being down on religion) as equal with science.

Voyager already had The Rock in an episode, why not throw in a few ghosts, mediums, and magic?

Blogger Ostar August 11, 2016 1:49 PM  

The whole focus of ST over the last 50 years has gone from the free individual bucking the system to the politically correct collective supporting the politically correct system against the nasty individualists.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother August 11, 2016 1:49 PM  

Yes, George Takei loves the fresh gays...

Blogger Rob August 11, 2016 1:49 PM  

"Star Trek Axanar" a fan-made film looks like has done more and will do more with 1 million dollars than CBS/Paramount has been able to do with hundreds of millions of dollars.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1W1_8IV8uhA

Blogger Sam August 11, 2016 1:51 PM  

Re: the Star Trek movie, I thought it telling that the Big Boss at odds with their Standard Fuck Party wasn't just a captian who'd gone monkeyshit from being stuck on a planet too long, but had started out as a dreaded "ex-soldier." A man who'd presumably served, only to have whatever he'd fought for absorbed into the undifferentiated mass of the Federation, and had grown dissatisfied by its absence of struggle and Starfleet's dildo quest for novelty in space. There was so much in it that screamed "Muh Authoritarian Personality Disorder" that it became a distraction. (Which by the way marks the second time in which the rebooted franchise has featured a Federation military man gone wrong as the bad guy; the villain is the uptight square from within, never The Other, because fuck you, Dad, I'm going to drama school and I'm gonna be fabulous!)

I found this moral bait-and-switch particularly hypocritical in that no one sees Star Trek for faggy peaceful exploration bullshit. They wanna see adventure. They wanna see strife. They wanna see conflict. They wanna see motherfuckers overcome . . . IN SPAAAAAAAACE. They want to see firefights with phasers, aliens with dicks or some shit growing out of their foreheads, gigantic starships wrecking shit up, and to wonder what it'd be like to hump one of those green alien chicks. Like Bowden, I think, had said, Hollywood has to put the truth in the mouths of its villains.

Also, the albino Mary Sue was bullshit, and I'm curious as to how many women are going to have to lose teeth in real life before this "Badass Chick" trope dies. Her introduction by beating the shit out a fireteam of dudes and later tech-cucking Scotty by being the only one who could plug in the fucking boom-box made me resent how they pozzed Scotty with Simon Peg. At least in the original show, James Doohan's Scotty seemed like a scrapper who could've been a legit enlisted sailor in the Navy. Peg just made him seem like a nancy. New Trek can't into gravitas for shit.

Fuckin' savages.

Anonymous WinstonWebb August 11, 2016 1:51 PM  

To be fair.

Anonymous FP August 11, 2016 1:52 PM  

The trailer they release a few weeks ago for this show was underwhelming to say the least.

@9

That is one of my favorite episodes of TNG. Not for the reasons the show makers might have wanted though. DS9 with Section 31 expanded on the ideas started there. One of the reasons DS9 holds up far far better than most of TNG.

Blogger Tom K. August 11, 2016 1:54 PM  

What's interesting is Uhura wasn't African-America. She supposedly spoke Swahili.

American blacks complain that whites prefer Africans over them. Why? Cause they don't act like fools or demand special treatment (until recently).

Checkov was intentionally Russian but NOT a Jew (like Koenig is), and Sulu was assumed to be Japanese. Probably American because of his accent.

Love the casting against type by Making Tuvok black! Tim Russ was a great Vulcan.

Anonymous Takin' a Look August 11, 2016 1:55 PM  

@ Snidely Whiplash

And we're gonna go with Wanda Sykes for the captain. Because we're original

I shouldn't have been drinking when I saw that! :-D

Anonymous a_peraspera August 11, 2016 1:55 PM  

I find the phrasing interesting: "the role ultimately could go to a Caucasian actress, but the intention is to go diverse."

So think about that. It's either-or. Caucasian OR diverse. So OK, diverse means non-white, and an organization (or country) that is fully diverse implies it is fully non-white.

They are saying that the set diversity does not include whites. So a group of let's say one White person, three Africans, two Asians, and three Latinos can't be considered diverse - because it includes a White.

Aren't we always told that diversity is a goal to strive for in all organizations? This means that the goal is total non-whiteness everywhere, i.e. the elimination of all whites.

I mean we already KNEW this, I'm just surprised that someone is saying it out loud.

Blogger Ostar August 11, 2016 1:56 PM  

JRH, esq. wrote:Wait, they are so advanced they don't need money anymore, but they haven't found a cure for gay yet? That's just not credible.

There was a funny sketch on this in the 80's about Patrick Stewart's captain.

Doc: "You have cancer?" (Quick scan with device) "Ok, cured. Who's next? Oh, you're bald? Sorry!" (Shrugs shoulders)

Anonymous Nathan August 11, 2016 1:57 PM  

But will it have a pointless Beastie Boys soundtrack or reference? Or is Jar Jar Abrams not involved?

Blogger Tom K. August 11, 2016 1:57 PM  

At least in Person of Interest they made one of the badass womyn a sociopath!

That was appropriate on so many levels.

Course they had to like it in by making her lesbian.

Blogger Noah B August 11, 2016 1:58 PM  

SJW Trek always had some major issues, but they've managed to completely ruin it now. On the upside, this opens up some pretty awesome ground for an alt-right, Galaxy Quest style parody.

● All women wearing burqas
● Female captain gets lost, has to stop to ask for directions
● "Why are we fighting the Borg, they're just like us?"
● Crew of Enterprise travels to an alien planet that's full of white people and well behaved, polite children. The fact that everyone is living peacefully causes them to panic and start a war.

Blogger Tom K. August 11, 2016 2:00 PM  

I plegleei luktumplasa…

Wait, wait! That's familiar somehow… Sorry. Don't remember it at all. We don't pledge allegiance to any nations in the future.

Blogger szopen August 11, 2016 2:01 PM  

Well, Star Trek was "progressive" from the beginning, I think. It's just "progressive" in 1970's are quite bearable, and even 1990's TNG, though visibly leftist, was not preachy (though I facepalmed multiple times in the show. Picard was left in command after recovering from Borg?)

Sulu was supposed to be generic Asian more than Japanese.

Anonymous Longtime Lurker August 11, 2016 2:03 PM  

Diversity is becoming the new synonym for boring.

Blogger Noah B August 11, 2016 2:03 PM  

Scratch that last, the name Enterprise has to go. We must avoid the appearance that the glorious future is some form of meritocracy.

Blogger Tom K. August 11, 2016 2:03 PM  

Jeri Ryan was a great Borg. Not only was she hot, she acted totally Borg.

Saw her in a short-lived series with James Wood. Without the implants she was even hotter!

To bad the used her divorce testimony to destroy her ex and get Obama arrested.

Who could have seen that coming?

Blogger Noah B August 11, 2016 2:05 PM  

Diversity is the perfect ship name, really.

Blogger Nick S August 11, 2016 2:08 PM  

..., "but there was a Star Trek series, the 1995-2001 Star Trek: Voyager on UPN, that had a female lead: Kate Mulgrew, who played Commanding Officer Kathryn Janeway."

Yeah. That's when I lost interest. I seriously doubt this latest development will reinvigorate my enthusiasm for the franchise.

Blogger David The Good August 11, 2016 2:08 PM  

I used to greatly enjoy TOS as a kid, then watched Voyager and DS9 in my teens. New movies... whatever. TNG had its moments but the preachiness was often painful. And needing a ditzy counselor on ship. Hehheh. Now? Forget it. There used to be some good stories here and there, despite the taint. Stick a replicated fork in it and pour a glass of Romulan ale on the soon to be torpedo-launched coffin. It's done.

Blogger YIH August 11, 2016 2:14 PM  

As I mentioned on a previous thread, CBS is likely going to regret this. First, they're going to paid streaming for this series ($6 a pop IIRC) and with ads! They should pick one, PPV or ads - both is a bad choice.
The other thing going against it is a unfortunate choice of name: Star Trek: Discovery. Why bad? Commonly Star Trek series are known by a three-letter acronym; TOS (Shatner, ect), TAS (animated), TNG (next gen), DS9, VOY, ENT. This one could be, and I quote, from the article I linked:
On how much Star Trek will push the content envelope since it won’t be constrained by broadcast standards: “Well there’s a reason we call it S.T.D.,” he said, mocking the show’s initials.
Not making that up. Now add in all the latter-day convergence and this'll probably wind up worse than Voyager.
In the previous thread I mentioned ''it seems like (the producers/writers of the Star Treks) are beating a dead horse... Yet again.''
Look at the late 90's, the second-to-last TNG movie was (and did) mediocre, and the final one (Nemesis) absolutely bombed. Add in a Voyager that got off to a bad start and never really improved, and by the time Enterprise (which was better than Voyager) debuted, it was looking like the whole franchise was ready for the dust bin.
With the latest Trek movie underperforming (just shy of $200 mil for a $188 mil flick) and this likely trainwreck, it's deja vu all over again.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother August 11, 2016 2:16 PM  

Gay

Blogger Leo Little Book in Shenzhen August 11, 2016 2:18 PM  

Every episode should feature a dramatic buildup to the possibility of escape or at least some tantalizing flicker of unextinguished humanity, then conclude with another main character reduced to spaceburger and gruesomely salvaged by his once-comrades.

At the end the Borg accelerate the mined-out rock to relativistic speeds, giving Sol one less planet and one more asteroid belt.

Spock has mansplained for the last time. Sensitivity training is mandatory, to be conducted by Klingon street reparations agents with judicial cloaking. Set phayzors to shun!

Blogger CarpeOro August 11, 2016 2:18 PM  

@53

"To bad the used her divorce testimony to destroy her ex and get Obama arrested."

If only it had been arrested and not elected (senator).

Anonymous A.B. Prosper August 11, 2016 2:21 PM  

Star Trek has been at least somewhat Leftist since the 1960's . The "forced" interracial kiss between Kirk and Uhura was the first phaser burst across the bow through I will say Nichelle Nichols was quite a lovely woman at the time. A fine singer too. I doubt it took much prodding to get Shantner to go along with it .

Still the fact its being more and more converged is not a surprise.

Leftism is like a kind of cancer once it is losing it potency, its metastasizes to every available organ to try and reach keep itself growing

That said even a lot of of Next Generation is awful and other than DS-9 and in a limited way Star Trek Continues (a Youtube thing with a surprisingly good cast and original feel ) the rest are pretty terrible. No comment on Axanar, the trailer looked amazing though.

Hell even Star Wars Rebels is better than nearly any Trek and the relationship between Jedi and Student on that show within the limitations of a 30 minute TV slot feels healthy and natural.

As a side note I saw the first of the new Trek movies and other than like 5 minutes of the thing (Sulu's folding sword) wanted by time and money back

So its not like I'm missing anything

Blogger tz August 11, 2016 2:21 PM  

We are the BORinG, resistance is futile!

Note they could do something like have a blue Andorian lead played by whatever or maybe even CGI. Or whatever those pretty green women were.

Now there's a thought, you can CGI whatever. John Carter of Mars worked out so well...

Blogger Leo Little Book in Shenzhen August 11, 2016 2:22 PM  

Noah B wrote:Scratch that last, the name Enterprise has to go.

USS Tolerance

Blogger padriac be damned August 11, 2016 2:23 PM  

and to the victor goes the spoils.

don't watch it, then. the less $ made, the less likely it will be repeated, as it's about $.

Hollywood cannot afford to bomb movies, and this will be the most promising message of all; boycott that which offends you.

and only quality cinema will be made.
Be that victor and make good movies. Better movies. Ones that actually attract large audiences.

you will likely find that the SJW is a phase, and so will movies makers, as they bomb one after another.

Blogger Roger G2 August 11, 2016 2:23 PM  

We knew that all the genres were converging years ago, even before the television commercials started featuring clean cut, white male robbers in ads for home security systems. Star Trek's is no surprise, and I'm guessing the main villains won't be female, or a POC, or gender fluid-among other things. That would be....yeah. The "R" word.

Blogger J A Baker August 11, 2016 2:26 PM  

I'd love to see the new Trek uniform modeled, hijab and all.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 11, 2016 2:27 PM  

"James Doohan's Scotty seemed like a scrapper who could've been a legit enlisted sailor in the Navy."

James Doohan was an enlisted Canadian Army infantryman in WWII and had a finger shot off at Normandy. Any time the shot focused on his hands in the series, it was a stand-in. I think it would have been far more awesome to show, but it was the 1960s.

Blogger pyrrhus August 11, 2016 2:28 PM  

Star Trek movies were already far too converged for me to even consider watching them....even for free.

OpenID basementhomebrewer August 11, 2016 2:31 PM  

Noah B wrote:Diversity is the perfect ship name, really.

or The "Progress(ive)"
or The "Welfare"
or The "Affirmative Action"

Enemy ships could be

The "Problematic"
or The "I. Can't. Even."

Anonymous Angriff August 11, 2016 2:32 PM  

So it's basically official now that all Sci Fi stories need a female lead now. Amazing.

As if the typical Sci Fi fan isn't already a delta male that puts women on a pedestal and overestimates their agency and abilities.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents August 11, 2016 2:34 PM  

There is clearly a great big ol' niche for something along the lines of Firefly, but I'm not the man to write it.

Blogger Cataline Sergius August 11, 2016 2:35 PM  

Cataline called it!

But would they do it.

Oh hell yes. I'm sure they will do it.

I am in my bones certain the SJWs are going to wreck the new Star Trek somehow. Certainly a gay captain is good start.

Yes, I know the SJWs already wrecked one version (Voyager). But that was done by 1990s SJWs. Lets face it, they were no where near as virulent a strain as what we have today.

Something you have to remember about the SJWs is that they always play the puck where it was. Never where it's going to be. A moribund intellectual property to an SJW is like shit to flies. Unutterably irresistible.

It doesn't require them to be particularly original, which is good because they have no real imagination. Just take a look a look at John Scalzi's career. He just landed a three million dollar contract to keep grinding out fanfic.

It's got an over optimistic built in audience already and waiting to be disappointed.

They can usually avoid getting too in your face with the Social Justice pap during the trailer...but not always. Their grip on reality isn't as good as their parents.


That was from last November. It was that obvious even then.

Blogger Feather Blade August 11, 2016 2:35 PM  

I for one am outraged and disgusted that the article didn't even mention Commander Sisko and DS9. How dare they try to erase black male bodies from Star Trek! They're worse than Hitler! /sarcnotsarc

Blogger Noah B August 11, 2016 2:38 PM  

Star Trek: Discovery. Why bad?

They set out to explore the galaxy, but they only made it to Uranus.

Blogger YIH August 11, 2016 2:45 PM  

Whisker biscuit wrote:Maybe Whoopi will make a comeback!
She actually was pretty good in TNG, and infrequent enough to be likeable when she did show up. Unlike someone who shall remain nameless.
Were-Puppy wrote:Won't this make that Scalizi guy irrelevant?
I kinda hope he does a scrip for this one. After all, it appears the whole series is going to be a redshirt.

Blogger Cataline Sergius August 11, 2016 2:46 PM  

Of the all of the Star Trek series I'd say my two favorites were the Animated Series; that one actually had real science fiction writers working on it. It was my introduction to Larry Niven's Kzinti.

My other favorite Star Trek series isn't a Star Trek series at all, that would be Babylon 5. That one gets an honorary mention for two reasons.

First, the spirit of the original series as envisioned by Gene L. Coon* is expanded and built upon unfettered by Gene Roddenberry's limitations.

Second, Deep Space Nine ripped it off shamelessly for about four seasons.

* Gene L. Coon is the real creator of Star Trek. "His credited creations for Star Trek include the Klingons and the Organian Peace Treaty (in "Errand of Mercy"), Khan Noonien Singh (in "Space Seed"), Zefram Cochrane (in "Metamorphosis"), the Prime Directive in "The Return of the Archons" and "Bread and Circuses", the United Federation of Planets in "Arena", and Starfleet Command in "Court Martial". Since he also had the responsibility of revising scripts, he worked uncredited on many other episodes. He also mentored the young Gerrold and helped him polish the script for the episode "The Trouble with Tribbles."[1] Other popular Star Trek episodes that he wrote include "The Devil in the Dark", "Arena", and "A Taste of Armageddon". He is credited with much of the character development of Star Trek's characters, much of the humor of Star Trek, and the disagreements between Spock and McCoy.

Blogger YIH August 11, 2016 2:49 PM  

paworldandtimes wrote:Anyone else remember Space 1999 from the seventies?

PA

Yes. Well produced, but often dumb. It was known for it's wooden acting.

Anonymous Great Again August 11, 2016 2:59 PM  

I must admit, I liked TNG, but I was in my teens at the time.

The funniest thing is that the Ferengi were introduced as evil capitalists, yet they turned out to be mostly harmless and boring. So they decided to introduce the Borg as extremist socialists, and they turned out to be one of the scariest villains in all of science fiction.

And then the Borg became considerably less scary once they discovered their individuality.

Anonymous Bz August 11, 2016 3:00 PM  

I'd love to see a Star Trek with only black actors. Make a second one with just Middle Easterners too. Heh heh heh.

Blogger Jon M August 11, 2016 3:02 PM  

From the OP: "This is actually very good news, because we all know what happens to converged institutions. What it means is that we now have the chance to replace them, and we are, in fact, already working on that."

The best sci-fi and fantasy short fiction magazine out there right now is Cirsova, which just released its second issue. It's explicitly a throwback magazine featuring the sort of adventure sans Narrative that's been missing from the market for so long. The next issue even features an article by Castalia House's own Jeffro Johnson. They've got a KickStarter going for the first two issues:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1161542777/cirsova-sff-pulp-zine-issues-3-and-4

If you have been waiting for a viable alternative to the big publishers, and your reading queue has room for a quarterly mag, you should check it out. I'm not associated with the mag in any way other than being a huge fan who wants it to succeed so it can keep giving me great new stories and authors.

Blogger Noah B August 11, 2016 3:02 PM  

Star Trek #WeWuzKangz

Blogger Nick S August 11, 2016 3:07 PM  

"They set out to explore the galaxy, but they only made it to Uranus."

Ha! Should've seen that one coming, but I didn't, Luckily, I was in between drinks.

Blogger Undocumented Pharmacist August 11, 2016 3:07 PM  

will have a female lead and she likely will be non-white.


Well I still hope you guys will read my episode reviews on my new blog,

Ask a Non-Non-White Guy.

Blogger Christopher Yost August 11, 2016 3:08 PM  

The nonsense they've been pulling with Star Trek is what got me looking into what was going on and consequent discovering the issues and groups.

Blogger Cataline Sergius August 11, 2016 3:09 PM  

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Blogger SemiSpook37 August 11, 2016 3:11 PM  

Tom K. wrote:At least in Person of Interest they made one of the badass womyn a sociopath!

That was appropriate on so many levels.

Course they had to like it in by making her lesbian.


Yeah, forcing Root to hookup with Shaw was dumb. Especially since she was really into the Machine, and Shaw was gone for half of Season 5 to begin with.

I personally liked Caveziel in his role, which I'm sure myself and others have appropriately dubbed "Jesus Christ: Special Operator".

Blogger Sithicus August 11, 2016 3:13 PM  

As an antidote I propose "Prelude to Axanar"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1W1_8IV8uhA

Yes, I know that they've been stopped by the lawsuit but it's 21 minutes of awesomeness.

Blogger professorastro August 11, 2016 3:14 PM  

At least Harcourt "Harry" Mudd can be the villain in every episode.

Blogger Rantor August 11, 2016 3:19 PM  

Whatever happened to Scalzi's TV series, it was going to be great.

As for Star Trek, I imagine it will be as good as the Ghostbusters remake, but cost less, because new unknown actors in alien clown makeup

Blogger dc.sunsets August 11, 2016 3:20 PM  

This show is on reruns before it premiers.

Am I the only one who finds that "D"iversity has had its 15 minutes of fame for more than long enough, and is looking forward to something...anything...original.

I mean, if this is an antebellum period, then let's get on with it. I'm not getting any younger.

Blogger S. Misanthrope August 11, 2016 3:20 PM  

Scott Bakula is better known than Sisko and Janeway? What are these SJWs smoking?

Blogger dc.sunsets August 11, 2016 3:26 PM  

@85, rebooting The Equalizer with a Magic Negro was boring enough (even if they made a Home Depot Murder, Inc extended scene for laughs), rebooting it with lousy gun effects, an (as usual) indestructible ex-Spook (oooohhhh.....), a gimp, a couple hot chicks and The God In The Machine was intolerable. The writers must have thrown darts at a wall, blindfolded, to brainstorm scripts.

I tire of story lines positing that us little people are so dependent upon our betters.

Blogger John Wright August 11, 2016 3:30 PM  

@22
"Anyone else remember Space 1999 from the seventies?"

Yes, and even thought at a young age I was wary enough to know that the moon even traveling at lightspeed could not visit a new star system each week, I was still wowed by the special effects and that particularly 'weird tales' flavor of English sci-fi.

Same vibe from UFO: these and various puppet shows were done by Gary and Sylvia Anderson.

Blogger Quadko August 11, 2016 3:36 PM  

Scott Bakula is better known than Sisko and Janeway?
No, no. Oh Boy Bakula is better known than whats-his-name and whats-her-name Lady Columbo; Captain Archer, otoh, maybe on par or less known than Captains Sisko and Janeway.

But at least Liberals in SpaceTrek was always on this SJW path. Was more a crime to converge star wizards; no one with that power would put up with that crap from the peanut gallery.

Blogger Noah B August 11, 2016 3:39 PM  

Enterprise, starring, Bakula, was my favorite since TOS. Worth watching IMO. It started out touchy-feely and got better as Captain Archer realized that going around offering free hugs wasn't the best way to explore the galaxy.

Anonymous Thales August 11, 2016 3:41 PM  

Anyone else remember Space 1999 from the seventies?

Remember it? I owned the lunchbox.

Anonymous Bz August 11, 2016 3:44 PM  

It should start with stealing the USS Kangz Pyramid (renamed) from Star Fleet Command, and should periodically involve getting calls from balding white people begging to get it back. Visits to the Liq'a Stoure planet, Weed World, and Where De White Wimenz At, among other exotic locations. A dastardly white plot in the background, obviously. (Perhaps a white captain of some authority who, when foiled, shouts "Kaaaaangz!") Deep knowledge from humanity's ancestors (black) which SFC wants to destroy. I think there has to be a refused command in there too, Lieutenant Shaniqua. Probably once per season finale.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 11, 2016 3:48 PM  

YIH wrote:paworldandtimes wrote:Anyone else remember Space 1999 from the seventies?

PA


Yes. Well produced, but often dumb. It was known for it's wooden acting.

Martin Ladau
Barbara Bain

There was no way the acting was NOT going to be wooden.

Blogger Aeoli Pera August 11, 2016 3:50 PM  

Star Trek was always bad and Star Wars was already ruined.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 11, 2016 3:51 PM  

professorastro wrote:At least Harcourt "Harry" Mudd can be the villain in every episode.

Nope. Harcourt Fenton Mudd was obviously a stereotyped Jew. Not allowed as a bad guy.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother August 11, 2016 3:54 PM  

Gay

Blogger YIH August 11, 2016 3:55 PM  

S. Misanthrope wrote:Scott Bakula is better known than Sisko and Janeway? What are these SJWs smoking?
Yes and no, he 'had a name' from Quantum Leap the producers were hoping people would follow him to Enterprise. It didn't really work, Bakula did OK as Captain Archer, but many didn't stick around after the first season. They retooled the show several times, which helped, but it's fate was tied to the foundering UPN, which, by that time all it had going for it was ENT and a slumping WWE. Finally Paramount said 'to hell with it' cancelled (IIRC) all but one show and dumped it off onto WB.

Anonymous Heywood August 11, 2016 4:01 PM  

"Aren't we really due for an openly-gay female Klingon of color?"

I guess we know what Mochelle Obama's next gig is going to be.

Anonymous Anonymous August 11, 2016 4:11 PM  

Set before Kirk, a time when according to TOS women weren't allowed to Captain a Starship. There's you STD plot. Brave non-white lesbian fighting the Federation patriarchy.

Blogger Eli Owen August 11, 2016 4:16 PM  

Vox, are you at some point going to have a TV/Film division? Non converged Scifi or fantasy shows with stories written by Castalia House writers would be incredible.

Anonymous cheddarman August 11, 2016 4:19 PM  

Hopefully, art immitates reality here. When the South African Navy got its first black submarine captain, he crashed the boat into the bottom of the ocean. The ship had to be decommissioned, it was so badly damaged.

Anonymous BGKB August 11, 2016 4:25 PM  

Yes, George Takei loves the fresh gays...

I usually make them take showers first just to be sure.

one of the badass womyn a sociopath!That was appropriate on so many levels. Course they had to like it in by making her lesbian

Must be nice to not know many lesbian sociopaths.

Crew of Enterprise travels to an alien planet that's full of white people and well behaved, polite children

The planet of white flight. Where whites fled to avoid die verse city. Upon being hailed by Captain Shitaka Cook they mover there entire solar system to a new galaxy

Hollywood cannot afford to bomb movies, and

Did you miss the news about Dan Radcliffe playing a dead farting corpse for 90 min in "Swiss Army Man"

There is clearly a great big ol' niche for something along the lines of Firefly, but I'm not the man to write it.

Firefly was shut down because it went against the narrative, not for viewership issues.

Anonymous Be Not Afraid August 11, 2016 4:26 PM  

Have Michael Dorn back to play Worf's gay great-grandfather, also named Worf, with gay Klingon naked sex (including poetry). And maybe a character with tentacles, for tentacle pr0n. Hell, get Chuck Tingle to adapt (future Hugo Award Winning) SRBI for an episode. Go for the win or just GTFO, CBS.

Seriously, though, I refused to see Beyond because of gay Sulu, and I would not even bother to try to watch the new series if it were free, much less pay $6/month to do so. I hope it fails. Let's hope Star Trek: Diversity goes down in flames and loses CBS/Paramount a pile of money.

Anonymous Jonathan August 11, 2016 4:32 PM  

An openly gay character? Does he boldly go where many, many men have gone before. Maybe call the ship the USS Bareback

Blogger residentMoron August 11, 2016 4:37 PM  

"Safe-space....the final frontier."

Not bad.

If they take just one more step and cast a massively obese ugly lesbian as Lt Commander Jane T Squirt, they'll have arrived at a female Harkonnen.

Anonymous Greywrath August 11, 2016 4:39 PM  

I've thought of two concepts for ST series that might (IMHO) kick ass ratings wise.
Remember the alternate universe with the evil Federation (Spock's Beard!!)? Yeah, flesh that one out. More power plays than GOT.
Also, have a joint mission with actual human warriors - no diplomats need apply - and Klingons, with a metal soundtrack. C'mon, you know Klingons would really love Amon Amarth!

Blogger guest August 11, 2016 4:40 PM  

Please speed it up with the movies. I'm addicted to movies, and I've been watching movies on Christian cinema, Oldies and a few BBC. Even BBC is getting jaded and raunchy. I'm running out of hope. I need some fresh movies soon.

Blogger lowercaseb August 11, 2016 4:48 PM  

I'm on board for a fully converged Star Trek...

...it already has a race of Space Raptors built into it. Looking forward to the first Gorn in starfleet named Orion. A hunky Gorn...for hard officers who are not soft as pudding.

Blogger pbuxton August 11, 2016 4:50 PM  

"Most liberals ended the 1960s rather ashamed of the beliefs they had at the beginning of the decade." -- Daniel Patrick Moynihan, 1973

Star Trek shows this perfectly. We started with the (sometimes too) muscular Jack Kennedy-esque righting of wrongs and ended in the fever-swamp of the Levelers.

@109 Christ, that could save the franchise. Star Trek: Game of Thrones, the Battle for Kirk's Chair.

Blogger BCD August 11, 2016 4:51 PM  

"No one has been cast yet, so it is possible that the role ultimately could go to a Caucasian actress, but the intention is to go diverse."

What a great phrase that is, pairing deliberate casualness with such a self-serious topic.

Blogger BCD August 11, 2016 4:52 PM  

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Blogger lowercaseb August 11, 2016 4:55 PM  

Thales wrote:Anyone else remember Space 1999 from the seventies?

Remember it? I owned the lunchbox.


Same here! That show had the best soundtrack as well. here's a snippet...skipping to the best part.

https://youtu.be/RLhdY6_juDk?t=9

it might be dated, but it still is the funkiest SciFi

Anonymous BGKB August 11, 2016 5:05 PM  

"No one has been cast yet, so it is possible that the role ultimately could go to a Caucasian actress, but the intention is to go diverse."
What a great phrase that is, pairing deliberate casualness with such a self-serious topic.


I bet anyone participating in the casting will be a race realist by the time it plays. They have the Rachel Jeantel and ICE T problem. ICE T was scheduled to narrate a 30 page story in an afternoon and needed 2 extra days to complete it, notice he only delivers a single line per continuous camera shot. Forget shakey cam you will get dizzy from them having to piece together clips with the right words.

Blogger YIH August 11, 2016 5:07 PM  

cheddarman wrote:Hopefully, art immitates reality here. When the South African Navy got its first black submarine captain, he crashed the boat into the bottom of the ocean. The ship had to be decommissioned, it was so badly damaged.
Isn't that an old Italian joke?

Anonymous Steve August 11, 2016 5:08 PM  

My favourite Star Trek captain is Ben Sisko, and he's as black as sin.

But Sisko was a superb character, and well acted, and him being of the African persuasion wasn't the point of DS9. Except maybe in that weird episode where it's revealed he hates the Holodeck lounge singer because Sisko's carrying a 400 year old grudge against the 1950's. Which was as silly as if Miles O'Brien were to suddenly burst into a rant about how he doesn't like Victorian fiction because of the potato famine.

But Trek - which was always PC - started veering off into identity politics with Voyager, whose improbable racial and sexual combinations seemed to be the point of the show, rather than incidental to the boldly going. And no surprise that the writing was weak.

I quite liked Enterprise despite its lumpy quality and FUCK YOU! finale.

The new movies are an expensively rendered CGI turd covered in lens flares. Galaxy Quest had more wonder, storytelling and emotion in its closing credits than all those Trek-by-numbers films put together.

So, not a shock to hear the new series is going to be shit. I reckon if they're going full Convergence they might as well do it properly though.

How about the lead character being a morbidly obese black lesbian in a burka? I've always though K. Tempest Bradford would look good in a burka.

And when you think about it, it was pretty ableist of TOS to relegate Christopher Pike to a minor supporting role in The Menagerie just because he was confined to a space wheelchair and unable to talk or wipe his own arse.

New Trek should definitely include a chief engineer with Downs. They can call him Corky, and every week the ship would get into some new adventure because of Corky's tinkering with the warp drive.

It's the role Wil Wheaton was born to play.

Blogger CCubed August 11, 2016 5:12 PM  

About Chesty Puller's quote; my Dad, a Marine wounded at Iwo Jima, told this version:

"Those poor sons of bitches: no matter which way we fire we're going to hit 'em."

Anonymous Smile Of The Shadow August 11, 2016 5:12 PM  

I read this... and I got really sad. This was my favorite show growing up, even all the way through Enterprise's 9-11 allegory garbage and co-genitor genderless bs propaganda. They still had good stories and characters. I have high doubts anything of the sort will come now :(

Anonymous Gramsci's Ghost August 11, 2016 5:20 PM  

Star Trek is now fully post modern and referential. They don't have to do anything original anymore; they can just refer to existing properties. See how this explanation of post modernism applies directly to the Trekiverse:
"The postmodern, then, is a repetition of the modern as the “new,” and this means the ever-new demand for another repetition."
--

Blogger EscapeVelocity August 11, 2016 5:28 PM  

Don't forget Black Afro-girl Iron "Man"

Blogger EscapeVelocity August 11, 2016 5:29 PM  

Don't forget Black Afro-girl Iron "Man"

Anonymous cheddarman August 11, 2016 5:34 PM  

@ 118 YIH

No, YIH, it is a real story. Here is an excerpt from a Times article.

"The accident is the latest in a string of submarine incidents over the past two years and comes three months after the Queen Modjadji welcomed a new commander, Commander Handsome Thamsanqa Matsane.

The fleet of submarines cost over R6-billion - rising to R8-billion in interest costs - and cost tens of millions every year to maintain and operate.

This week, the Sunday Times established that:

The accident took place during a safety drill involving the Queen Modjadji's hydraulic system;
The vessel's outer hull, about 7.8mm thick, suffered a serious dent on impact with the seabed;
She surfaced after impact and continued sailing to Durban, where she was checked by a team of divers; and
Afterwards, the submarine returned to Cape Town and was taken out of the water and inspected by senior officials."

Blogger Alexandru August 11, 2016 5:34 PM  

I don’t comment very often but I’m a daily Lurker. The problem with the new Star Trek movies and for sure this show isn’t the multi-racial liberal viewpoint. Star Trek always had that. It’s the poor execution. Let’s face it, the Federation is the benign fantasy of liberals everywhere. A perfect nationless, moneyless, egalitarian fantasy. The best Star Trek in my opinion was DS9 because it chipped at the silly utopian fantasies. It even ended with the ((Bajorans)) saying thanks but no thanks to the Federation. So for all it’s liberal silliness it still had a lot of entertaining stories and depth of character.

NuTrek and this upcoming crap will fail because the makers don’t understand their own stupid SJW philosophy. They portray an evil militaristic Federation and project modern conservatism on it when the Federation is the fantasy of progressive politics. It feels disjointed and makes no sense. Not to mention with the mass cultural appeal of “geek” it will just be self-referential drek. The worst thing that happened to Star Trek and SW is the mass cultural appeal.

Blogger lowercaseb August 11, 2016 5:44 PM  

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Blogger Noah B August 11, 2016 5:48 PM  

Unless SJW Trek quickly devolves into a Grays' Anatomy style show centered around who's sleeping with who today and all the ensuing drama, there won't be an audience.

Blogger Gordon August 11, 2016 6:01 PM  

Oh, what about the Bajoran chick who committed treason against her crewmates, and Picard tells her "no problem, come on back! Everyone deserves a second chance!" Then the actress quit and refused to work on DS9.

The "captain" of a ship can be any rank. The title refers to the person in charge. There's no reason a ship's captain has to hold the rank of captain, and in many cases, he or she doesn't. A petty officer can be captain of a small vessel.

There is a tradition among Army folks aboard a navy ship that if there is an Army captain, he or she will be referred to as "Major", the next highest rank. A ship has only one captain.

Anonymous rubberducky August 11, 2016 6:19 PM  

I hear they are about to start filming the next _Ocean's Eleven_ installment, too. It's gone 'diverse' as well. All female bank-robbing crew. SMH.

Anonymous JAG August 11, 2016 6:24 PM  

Rob wrote:"Star Trek Axanar" a fan-made film looks like has done more and will do more with 1 million dollars than CBS/Paramount has been able to do with hundreds of millions of dollars.


There is no more obvious tell of SJW convergence of an established franchise than when the fan fiction is much better than what the (((professionals))) are cranking out.

Blogger Were-Puppy August 11, 2016 6:50 PM  

@96 Thales
Anyone else remember Space 1999 from the seventies?

Remember it? I owned the lunchbox.
---

I had a 33rpm LP of the first two episodes.

IIRC, it seemed that old guy Viktor almost had a heart attack every episode. Maybe I should put that into the rewatch queue on Amazon.

Blogger Jack Ward August 11, 2016 7:08 PM  

Passed on the latest Star Trek movie. The one where the gay was let from the closet. Really; I've got better uses for my money and special effects, good as they are these days, just don't make up for 10 or more dollars at the gate. And, I am a senior and go for the early shows.

Did see the latest Bourne flick and was pleasantly surprised and entertained. I mean what can be bad about non-stop action and liberal use of bullets? There was a fair amount of what HAD to be some cgi in a really destructive chase sequence using a Las Vegas swat vehicle. Escapism this; don't expect deep thoughts a la Dr. Zhivago, or War and Peace. Ain't there, dudes.

Blogger Doktor Jeep August 11, 2016 8:10 PM  

The last Voyager episode I saw was that episode where the ship came into contact with some probe that very dangerously put the crew through some replay of a genocidal episode that happened to some long-dead people.

Kind of like a holocaust memorial in space that almost kills you.


At the end of the episode they managed not to get killed, as usual, but had the option to destroy the probe. This thing was a considerable threat to crews of any vessel that came in contact with it.

And Janeway opted not to kill it.

That was the last episode I bothered to watch.

Note: the actress herself, Kate Mulgrew, once stated something in an interview back in the mid 1990s that gave me a dose of red pill. In that interview she questioned how some women can work a job as a cashier or clerk that just barely paid for the daycare of their child. That stuck in my mind and I took to questioning that mentality and that was one of the first kernels of questioning the Cathedral for me.

Blogger dfordoom August 11, 2016 8:56 PM  

Anyone else remember Space 1999 from the seventies?

I remember it well. It was great fun but Gerry Anderson's earlier live-action sci-fi series, UFO, was better.

Anonymous Rog August 11, 2016 9:01 PM  

Like the new Star Wars, these will all be written, directed, and produced by men. (((White))) Men.

Blogger S. Misanthrope August 11, 2016 9:20 PM  

@102 Certainly the actor is more recognizable. I interpreted the statement as talking about within the Star Trek fandom, though. I was a shameless QL fan and Trekkie who still didn't watch STE, though that was mostly because it was on the air at a time when I didn't have a television. Not that my experience is everyone's experience, but I find it hard to believe there's any comparison in the viewership of STE versus DS9 and Voyager given how long each show ran.

Blogger VFM #7634 August 11, 2016 10:46 PM  

I hear they are about to start filming the next _Ocean's Eleven_ installment, too. It's gone 'diverse' as well. All female bank-robbing crew. SMH.

If they wanted to go full-estrogen, at the very least they could try to make it more realistic by making the ringleader a sigma male.

Anonymous Jack Amok August 11, 2016 11:11 PM  

have you seen the convergence in Battlefield 1?

You mean the one with DeAlvin York? Yeah, such stupidity.

Anonymous WP August 11, 2016 11:37 PM  

Fuck the U.S.S. Vagina/Mangina-- it's dead Jim.

Blogger Thucydides August 11, 2016 11:54 PM  

Since Star Trek was apparently Gene Roddenberry's Magic Realist version of Socialism in action ("Hey, in the 24th century they finally got Socialism right! Sorry about the 20th and 2i1rst century, guys"), then it is no real surprise that convergence finally happened.

I gradually lost interest in the franchise as TNG stumbled along with the really bad stories covered up with really spectacular special effects, and supported by a pretty fine ensemble cast. Without the foundation of a clear and coherent vision to drive the stories, there was no "there" there.

Voyager and DS9 suffered from many of the same problems, and by the time Enterprise came along, I had no interest at all. Even the rebooted movies are special effects extravaganzas devoid of meaningful character development or plot, I haven't seen number 3 and doubt I'll bother when it comes out on Netflix.

Axanar had the potential to be the exception to the rule, and of course since studios quality equipment and software are now in the reach of even dedicated amateurs, it seemed inevitable the studio would send armies of lawyers to crush it: can't justify spending a mountain of cash on a movie when a bunch of people can create a far better product with far less cash. The entire studio ecology would collapse. It still will, but it will only take longer.

Waiting for the great fork to be created. As the saying goes, we can take the fork and stick it in them, and call it "done".

Anonymous andon August 12, 2016 12:28 AM  

and what happens when whites don't bother to watch?

why should they?

Blogger EscapeVelocity August 12, 2016 1:17 AM  

To boldly go where no xer has gone before!

LOL!

They should get Leslie Jones to star as Capt. Harambe of the U.S.S. Gibsmedat

OpenID randkoch August 12, 2016 1:19 AM  

Assuming it's ever allowed to be made, Axanar will probably be more careful about stretching the limits of acceptability. You need to be more careful about upsetting the applecart when it's someone else's applecart.

Saw this blog post and knew it'll have well over 100 comments.

Anonymous Alice De Goon August 12, 2016 2:41 AM  

Someone should complain to Paramount about the inclusion of different races in the future. Didn't they know we would all be one diverse, monocultural mass of humanity by then, with all of us identifying as pangender, panspecies, carbon-based sentient lifeforms? (Not to discriminate against all of the silicone-based lifeforms out there, or all of the non-sentient, non-life forms who need to be respected and given their rights just as much as any living, breathing creature does. Including the living, non-breathing sentient lifeforms like AI and virtual reality constructs living inside of biomechanical neural-matrices.) The New Star Trek series will strike a bold move for non-sentient, non-life forms everywhere by featuring a chaise lounge named D'Quon Shea-Letourneau the Loquacious as Captain. He/she/it/they/xie/jee/bun/per will command the United Federation Spaceship Vagina along with his/hers/its/theirs/xyr/jeir/buns/pers Nonhierarchical Helpmates Skeevy the Penisfencer and Hivemind Unit #0111010101001. Together they will navigate the basement of a warehouse in Teaneck, NJ in a ship built from their own imagination in an act meant to show solidarity with non-sentient, non-lifeforms that don't actually exist, which have just as many civil rights as anything else that currently exists in the Multiverse (and in any hypothetical realms existing outside of the multiverse which cannot currently be measured in the Future's Current Year technology.)

It should be interesting, especially when they get to the (imaginary) planet ruled by the people with the half-black, half-white faces who hate the people with the half-white, half-black faces because they insist on keeping their car alarms set to "sound of a gnat's cough" sensitivity at night.

Blogger ghostfromplanetspook August 12, 2016 8:50 AM  

I'm just happy they haven't come round to Dune yet. A lesbian-sandworm-godqueen with green hair and a MySpace profile would be a bit too much even for that universe.

Anonymous Pennywise August 12, 2016 9:33 AM  

There isn't any SJW convergence, just another reboot of Star Trek in the vision of its creator. Watch or don't watch...your choice.

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