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Friday, August 05, 2016

The cost of SJW convergence

ESPN is paying it, having lost 4 million subscribers and $350 million in the last year:
In the past five years ESPN has lost 11,346,000 subscribers according to Nielsen data.

If you combine that with ESPN2 and ESPNU subscriber losses this means that ESPN has lost over a billion dollars in cable and satellite revenue just in the past five years, an average of $200 million each year. That total of a billion dollars hits ESPN in the pocketbook not just on a yearly basis, but for every year going forward.

It's gone forever.

That's not just bad, this is downright cataclysmic.

And it's getting worse.

In the past year ESPN lost 4.159 million subscribers, that's another $350 million in lost revenue across the ESPN family of networks.
Now, tell me again how all the cultural programming and SJWfication and ideological propaganda in the entertainment media and the advertising industry is just business. Tell me again how it's not driven by ideological fanatics, but hard-nosed businessmen just ruthlessly chasing a buck the best way they know how.

And then I'll explain to you, very slowly and in words of not more than five syllables, that those hard-nosed, buck-chasing "businessmen" are observably losing literal billions as they continue to tear away at the foundations of Western Civilization: Christianity, the family, the rule of law, and the white race in the name of Tolerance, Equality, Progress, Inclusiveness, and Diversity.

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Blogger Leo Little Book in Shenzhen August 05, 2016 5:14 AM  

One cannot serve two masters, even shekels and Satan.

Blogger Gunnar Thalweg August 05, 2016 5:25 AM  

VD: I was thinking this morning that in the U.S. we have a colonization situation. Not going to have -- we have one and have had one since 2008, and it was confirmed in 2012.

Romney won the white vote 59-39 -- a massive landslide. He won men and he won married me and married women. Basically, the majority culture and the responsible people. But the Democrats cobbled together a collection of young people and ethnic minorities as well as that 39 percent -- and easily won. I don't see how that changes in the next few election cycles.

Our culture is irrelevant to the colonizers. Our opinion is irrelevant. Voting doesn't matter -- the majority is demographically checkmated. Any minority that strikes out at us is justified, and triggers calls for our disarmament.

Either way this and the next few elections go, we have a potentially unstable political situation in the U.S. It's never good to have a minority ruling a majority.

I think that's why there will be a big gun control push. I think they will go after gun control like they did tobacco companies -- product liability lawsuits, plus mega-taxation, hyper-regulation and insurance. Similarly, there will be an attack on the first amendment, through climate change as well as speech codes.

This isn't going to end well.

Blogger Popa August 05, 2016 5:26 AM  

5 syllables! Too much!

Anonymous J. Delcano August 05, 2016 5:36 AM  

SJWs always destroy.

Blogger Johann Pearce August 05, 2016 5:38 AM  

Oh, that's good. I'm going to steal that one.

Blogger VoodooJock August 05, 2016 5:42 AM  

I've noticed their website has started to pontificate on political matters. The few sports I pay attention to, I do so because I want to escape that stuff for just a little while.


And their motorsports coverage sucks as well, but that's standard across all MSM sports channels and websites. Though, now that Danica Patrick has ceased to be the great pink hope and people are finally waking up to the fact that she's just not very talented, they've toned it down considerably.

Blogger Phillip George August 05, 2016 5:56 AM  

I said this before but, their stuff is incredibly preachy. News, entertainment, sport, historical revisions. Sermons, once upon a time could be a weekly affair that most people could day dream through if they wanted to. Not anymore. SJW's preach 24/7 on everything. It's relentless. Society hasn't become less pontifically religious, it has increased exponentially in inverse proportions to exposure to the real thing.
\A story about NASA has to be about female astronauts.

"It is rocket science but they turned it into something else".

I'm quite proud of that line. Anyway good to see they're losing buckets of money before death and decay actually kicks in; as these canoes approach the rapids, the sound is getting louder but no-one has ever seen white water so still refuse to believe it exists.

Blogger Sillon Bono August 05, 2016 5:56 AM  

Let them burn, cooked in their own juices.

They deserve it.

As per the invaders, eventually we're going to lose our cool, it will take long, but once it happens the mince machine will not stop at them, the elites will be next.

By then, our democracies will lie in ruins all thanks to them, my only consolation is that they will be nothing more than ashes at that point.

Counting the minutes to France announcing some appeasement agreement with Muslim "associations".

Civil war starts at that moment folks.

Blogger Leo Little Book in Shenzhen August 05, 2016 5:59 AM  

They destroy by hyperextending the jaw, exposing the aortal vacuum.

SJWs always suck.

Blogger Sillon Bono August 05, 2016 6:03 AM  

@9

Where the *beeep* is that from????

Blogger Lovekraft August 05, 2016 6:06 AM  

Their funding is unlimited as long as they have the State's enforcers collecting our taxes, or Soros types funneling money to them.

Nothing even close to free market conditions. As a result, the product becomes stale and resented.

Blogger James Dixon August 05, 2016 6:17 AM  

It couldn't happen to a more deserving organization.

Maybe their collapse will teach the NBA and NFL something and they'll turn back from the convergence path they're on. Ah, who am I kidding? They're both a lost cause at this point.

Blogger YIH August 05, 2016 6:20 AM  

What is a major reason for cable ''cord cutting''?
ESPN.

Anonymous old man in a villa August 05, 2016 6:30 AM  

Watching sports is for mouth breathers.

These people are in the demolition business, not the construction industry.

Of course it isn't about the money, it never has been. Like asking conservatives to name one thing that they've conserved, name one SJW oriented business model that hasn't lost market share. Their purpose is to tear down, not build.

Blogger Josh August 05, 2016 6:33 AM  

I'd love to see you on Clay's show.

Twitter ilk and vfm, tweet @claytravis asking him to interview @voxday

Blogger Whisker biscuit August 05, 2016 6:39 AM  

Good riddance! And hopefully, unless they quit obsessing over sodomites and confused wiener tuckers, pro sports follow behind. The NBA All-Star debacle was grotesque.

Also, how many shows with talking heads and failed prediction-makers can they have on discussing the same 3 "news" stories al day? Lebron James has diarrhea? Let's analyze it on Mike and Mike! We have experts! Next on Around the Horn: King James' explosive poo and the effect it will have on trans-gendered relations!

Blogger Leo Little Book in Shenzhen August 05, 2016 6:40 AM  

Watching sports is for mouth breathers.

You don't have the social skills.

name one thing that they've conserved

Comfort.

Blogger Roger Hill August 05, 2016 6:50 AM  

Vox, or anyone else here who might be able to address the question...

When you list the traits of Western Civilization, you mention both race and Christianity. Now obviously both apply in the history of the West. But I am wondering if you would agree that Christianity itself has a transforming power over time within cultures and societies where it takes root and grows? And if that is the case, then Christianity can indeed find commonality and brotherhood (however long awaited) between races, societies and transformed cultures?
I guess my concern is that I have always thought Christianity benefited Western man, and not necessarily the reverse. I believe the words of scripture when it declares that the Church will find in its midst at judgement "a great multitude, which no man could number, out of every nation and of all tribes and peoples and tongues".

Is it not the case that should Christianity take solid root in some far flung nation, growing by God's grace, then this place too would see the cultural benefits of Christian thinking growing right along with it - however violently and bumpy its path?

Not picking a fight with anyone - just seeking input.

Anonymous J. Delcano August 05, 2016 6:55 AM  

@6 now that Danica Patrick has ceased to be the great pink hope

Watching Danica Patrick in her rookie year during the 2005 IndyCar Series is what clued me in that SJWs (although I didn’t call them that at the time) would celebrate ideology over achievement. She was given the opportunity to drive a Honda engine (dominant that year) with a significant weight advantage over other drivers, but couldn’t stop whining when she made mistakes or the luck of the field turned against her. Most incredible to me: multiple instances of blaming the events of a bad pit stop on her crew, and doing so over the open radio for all to hear and the media to rebroadcast . The disloyalty towards her team and the projection of her mistakes onto others was amazing, but the media kept pushing her in the spotlight as "the next big thing" in racing. I disliked her after that season because she never grew and improved, yet watched the media continue to fawn over a mediocre driver who, in retrospect, acted like Will Wheaton in a race car. I lost track of her after she shifted to NASCAR (thanks for taking her off our hands), but it doesn’t surprise me that she hasn't improved - even though she is still being given the opportunity to drive.

Blogger Silent Cal August 05, 2016 6:59 AM  

ESPNs fawning over Michael Sam was sickening and was the last straw for me.

Anonymous Cash August 05, 2016 7:19 AM  

NBA fan here.

We now have Adam Silver who is a big SJW type running the league. A problem is that he came in at a time when the league was at a really good point thanks to the previous commissioner.

The easy the media fonds over the creep is disgusting. The guy was one of the worst GM's ever.

Blogger Terry Saulsbury August 05, 2016 7:20 AM  

ESPN is now an All Black, All The Time Network. Not that there is anything wrong with that.

OpenID basementhomebrewer August 05, 2016 7:20 AM  

The second anyone started talking about political issues on ESPN they should have been fired. Instead it was encouraged up until wrong thinkers started sharing. Then THEY got fired but all the SJW speech is still encouraged. If ESPN was truly interested in capturing more subscriptions they would fire at least 3/4 of their staff and issue new rules about talking politics on air. Instead they will double down.

Blogger Eric August 05, 2016 7:34 AM  

In the words of the often misunderstood Carl Spackler,

I have to laugh.

Anonymous Be Not Afraid August 05, 2016 7:41 AM  

It will be interesting to see if Disney is willing to run ESPN at a loss in a few years.

Media this year has been the source of much amusement. Ghostbusters will lose money, Suicide Squad will likely lose money (unless the reviews are disregarded), Star Trek Beyond's not doing well (and I boycotted after Gay Sulu), sounds like Rogue One may be a hot mess...

Disney in particular is vulnerable. ESPN is a big thing for them. They're under great pressure to bring the queen from Frozen out as lesbian. While Force Awakens worked with a female hero, it's far from obvious that Rogue One is going to work; a crash-and-burn on that film would hurt the value of the franchise.

Blogger Leo Little Book in Shenzhen August 05, 2016 7:44 AM  

brotherhood (however long awaited) between races

Putting aside natural affection, they were filled with unnatural ones. For all were one in Christ.

Jeremiah 26:6 uses "whole earth" in a way that cannot possibly mean "planet Earth". He who has eyes, let him see.

I'm really looking forward to the batman vs superman WONDERWOMAN movie.

Blogger Rusty Fife August 05, 2016 7:45 AM  

Roger Hill wrote:Vox, or anyone else here who might be able to address the question...

When you list the traits of Western Civilization, you mention both race and Christianity. Now obviously both apply in the history of the West. But I am wondering if you would agree that Christianity itself has a transforming power over time within cultures and societies where it takes root and grows? And if that is the case, then Christianity can indeed find commonality and brotherhood (however long awaited) between races, societies and transformed cultures?

I guess my concern is that I have always thought Christianity benefited Western man, and not necessarily the reverse. I believe the words of scripture when it declares that the Church will find in its midst at judgement "a great multitude, which no man could number, out of every nation and of all tribes and peoples and tongues".

Is it not the case that should Christianity take solid root in some far flung nation, growing by God's grace, then this place too would see the cultural benefits of Christian thinking growing right along with it - however violently and bumpy its path?

Not picking a fight with anyone - just seeking input.


How much time? 1,000yrs perhaps?

Brotherhood of Christianity is still not Babel. "Asia for the Asians" only changes to "Asia for the Christian Asians".

Blogger J A Baker August 05, 2016 7:49 AM  

Rogue One is about young Han Solo before the gender reassignment surgery.

Blogger Stilicho August 05, 2016 7:50 AM  

I smell an opportunity

Blogger Leo Little Book in Shenzhen August 05, 2016 7:52 AM  

But first I need to watch joker HARLEY QUINN & THE MINORITIES.

Blogger The Deuce August 05, 2016 8:00 AM  

"Tolerance, Equality, Progress, Inclusiveness, and Diversity"

Is is just coincidence that the acronym for that is TEPID?

Blogger Amy August 05, 2016 8:06 AM  

Seems like anything Disney touches becomes crap, instantly. The ((())) Touch, I guess.

Watched Zootopia last night. What a POS movie. Preachy as hell. Kids are awash in this stuff day in and out. Watching sports news in absence of an actual sport to play or watch was an escape from saccharine preaching.

Blogger Amy August 05, 2016 8:07 AM  

Not that Zootopia wasn't crap as it was originally conceived. It became a bigger, social-justicey pile, is all.

Blogger MC227 August 05, 2016 8:10 AM  

I haven't watched ESPN in 15 years because of the lefty nonsense they present every minute of every day. It should be called the The Social Engineering Sports Network.

Blogger Doom August 05, 2016 8:15 AM  

Whoever is losing the money doesn't seem to mind. Which means either it is nearly finished OR they really don't care because they can simply have their zombie governments print more. Well, and if they fail, being too big to fail, then everyone is going down with them. They really think they have it cornered, and spend, gamble, and lose as if they do.

How do you deal with zombies? And, if they do serve, is it better to go after the zombies or the masters? From governments to domestic and foreign terrorists, going after the obvious is also wrong. If you decide to fight? Fight smart. Go after the few hundreds or thousands of elites pushing the buttons. It seems even the Kochs have proven their true devotions. Hard targets, but not many of them. My guess is, if those feeling distressed took out a dozen or so butchinaires, shit would settle rather quickly.

Not my gig. You kids say you want to play? Play. Wake me up when I am dead or about to be unless it's a boring quick bullet-to-the-head statist thing.

Anonymous Longtime Lurker August 05, 2016 8:17 AM  

What exactly is the cause-effect relationship in ESPN's case? Did SJWism cause the loss of viewers? Or is ESPN's SJWism a response to economic and technological forces beyond its control? A collective shriek for help in the era of "cable cutting," which has more to do with outrageous cable prices? I don't know, but I did cut the cable years ago and have not regularly watched ESPN since then. And I don't miss it.

Blogger James Dixon August 05, 2016 8:19 AM  

> The NBA All-Star debacle was grotesque.

You'd think the NBA and other organizations (Ebay, for instance) would have enough sense not to antagonize people with the power to impose taxes on them. But apparently not. Will NC have enough sense to retaliate via their taxing authority? Let's wait and see.

> And if that is the case, then Christianity can indeed find commonality and brotherhood (however long awaited) between races, societies and transformed cultures?

Commonality and brotherhood do not require trying to integrate distinct cultures.

Anonymous vfm #0202 August 05, 2016 8:24 AM  

Kinda sorta OT...
If you take two slabs of glass and grind them against each other with some grit, they eventually conform one to the other. Sort of like culture and genome.
The glass blanks take on opposite spherical curvatures, since that's the only shape that fits. But if you use three blanks, something else happens. You get an optical flat. Because the only set of three curvatures that can match is all zero.

This is the vision of the diversicrats. One infinitely flat, totally predictable population. You are your principal components. Residue will be eliminated.

Anonymous Raptor disrespect from behind August 05, 2016 8:25 AM  

I stopped watching ESPN years ago when Sportscenter changed from showing the best plays/goals of the day to becoming TMZ. I figured they did that to either have more to talk about, or more likely bring in female viewers since females control most daily household spending.

It turned me off and made me wonder what demographic they were trying to capture for advertising as asides from sports, there isn't that much exclusively male oriented programming on TV.

Blogger Undocumented Pharmacist August 05, 2016 8:26 AM  

Lets see what's on ESPN. Hmmm, two fat women, shaped like footballs, talking about pro football. Very meta, but I think I'll watch the local weather channel instead.

Blogger Unknown August 05, 2016 8:26 AM  

Why haven't I seen TEPID as an acronym before? Hysterical

Anonymous wEz August 05, 2016 8:29 AM  

This. Remember also that the Latino population was an unexpected demographic that helped carry the way for Obama. Every four years this voter group grows a decent margin. Between minorities, millenials, libtard sjw's "white knights" in the media/education system, it's just not going to flip Trump's way. Throw in the fact that a good % of the population is either stupid, lazy, emotional, or ignorant, how the fuck does Trump take this thing?
This bitch is going to win. It will happen. I'll be the first to gladly say I'm wrong if Trump somehow pulls it off. If he somehow does (and I'll be utterly shocked) it will be by the slightest of margins. There is absolutely no way it's by the landslide some here are predicting.

Blogger Leo Little Book in Shenzhen August 05, 2016 8:31 AM  

The prosperity of the wicked is the leniency of the just, until God grinds fine.

Blogger Jimmy Glover August 05, 2016 8:32 AM  

I limped thru the replacement of anchors with females who made their shows unwatchable. I may have given the sunday morning countdown crew a chance.

But the BLM support at the ESPY's, and the airing of the race townhall starring the racebaiter in chief was the last straw.

Of course since their main sports are predominantly black, they may have no choice there.

Anonymous Longtime Lurker August 05, 2016 8:41 AM  

@2: I once worked for firm that was owned by two partners on a formal 70-30 ownership split. During my short time with the firm, the 30 percent partner was relatively more effective than the 70 percent partner in bringing in new business, such that the 30 percent partner was responsible for bringing in 40 percent of total revenues. This fact fundamentally destabilized the firm, ultimately causing a major fallout between the partners, which caused the firm to split.

I witnessed an interesting dynamic during this process: The employees who supported the 30 percent partner started acting as if they should be the ones to "call the shots," even though their principal was not even close to the 50 percent mark. They viewed the "trend as their friend" and started acting as if they had already exceeded 50 percent.

What I experienced is little different than the larger political dynamic in the country, except for the fact that there are multiple groups in play.

Anonymous wEz August 05, 2016 8:41 AM  

On ESPN just yesterday: Some article on a lesbo wnba player, two articles ripping Trump, more shitting on the North Carolina transgender bathroom law, then you have a whole daily column called "the undefeated" which is solely a "black only" op think tank... F*ck ESPN.

Anonymous The OASF August 05, 2016 8:45 AM  

The ostracizing of Hank Williams Jr. was pretty much the equivalent of a pack of ESPN corporate flacks putting the boots to Dale Dale Earnhardt out on the the middle of the racetrack at the end of a Daytona 500.

See how that works out for ya...

Of course, I am sure ESPN/ABC is already crying to the government for a bailout, if it is not already getting massive gratuities (don't believe me, see MSNBC as an example).

http://www.prisonplanet.com/bailout-funds-went-to-msnbc-via-general-electric.html

Blogger JaimeInTexas August 05, 2016 9:01 AM  

@7. Phillip George

When I worked at NASA-JSC (houston), the animator for an educational cartoon developed an Einstein-ish looking character as the scientist. Because of a certain astronaut the character had to be changed to something more inclusive, into a tall, slender, black-ish, indian-ish (curry), female scientist. That was around 1990-1

Blogger JaimeInTexas August 05, 2016 9:03 AM  

oh, yeah. In another animation depicting the red cells, in the breathing cycle, the red cells depicted as smoking had to be taken out.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan August 05, 2016 9:07 AM  

I hope ESPN doubles down, whatever they are doing they can double down on it.

I'm not a conservative standing thwart that history stuff I am the alt righter urging them to go faster.

Nothing to save at ESPN, the only thing interesting will the fems neuter the blacks, my guess yes.

Blogger tz August 05, 2016 9:10 AM  

Sports tend to be a male bastion, so it is natural to attack it. But then they aren't gaining women, but losing men.
Worse, A sport is a meritocracy. They don't have cooperative games where all get trophies. There can be strategies and players. But a gay player must be celebrated, as Caitlin. WTF? That has nothing to do with winning games.

Anonymous andon August 05, 2016 9:13 AM  

ESPN will cater to the migrants, as will other big business. that's why they're not concerned about losing white marketshare.

Anonymous andon August 05, 2016 9:16 AM  

* migrants and other minorities

Anonymous FP August 05, 2016 9:21 AM  

"While Force Awakens worked with a female hero, it's far from obvious that Rogue One is going to work; a crash-and-burn on that film would hurt the value of the franchise."

One can only hope it would hurt the value. From the trailer Rogue One looks to be the same damn movie as Force Awakens. Rebel without a cause mary sue part deux gets a clue.

Blogger LP9 Solidified in Gold! Rin Integra August 05, 2016 9:23 AM  

Wow, the SJW/media in totality does not understand what lying buffoons they all look like, they cannot even get programming fluid enough to accept.

Trump Surprise: http://www.calculatedriskblog.com/2016/08/off-topic-update-on-litmus-test-moments.html

Anonymous andon August 05, 2016 9:26 AM  

@ #21 - why are you still an NBA fan?

Anonymous Bob Izza August 05, 2016 9:26 AM  

VD,

So ESPN is a proxy in a 4GW-SJW context. The $1 billion/yr acceptable losses by ESPN can then be used to offset gains by the more profitable arms of the central actors.

Anonymous johnc August 05, 2016 9:28 AM  

Americans used to treat sports like a religion of its own. It's fascinating to see people who don't have time for Church on Sundays "because sports". It seems like the younger people have less interest, which is an improvement.

But if ESPN is losing subscribers it's because people are dropping cable altogether and not necessarily targeting the network.

One of the most effective things an American can do today to fight the zeitgeist is to cancel his cable subscription. Just cancel the damn thing and stop dutifully forking over $50 - $100 every month to these losers.

Blogger praetorian August 05, 2016 9:30 AM  

I had to pretend I gave a shit about sportscenter and basketball americans in college in order to hide my autism levels, however imperfectly.

The ESPN fags-and-trannys meltdown has been a huge blessing. I look forward to hearing about their Athletes-Against-Trump muh fugga election special.

Blogger Paul Lutgen August 05, 2016 9:37 AM  

Vox, has the main stream media itself taken a hit like this? Has its partisanship cost them a great deal of money?

OpenID basementhomebrewer August 05, 2016 9:39 AM  

FP wrote:"While Force Awakens worked with a female hero, it's far from obvious that Rogue One is going to work; a crash-and-burn on that film would hurt the value of the franchise."

One can only hope it would hurt the value. From the trailer Rogue One looks to be the same damn movie as Force Awakens. Rebel without a cause mary sue part deux gets a clue.



They made the same miscalcuation as all SJW institutions. They think the majority of people think like them.

They believe that there are millions of girls out there that would have loved star wars if Luke Skywalker had just been a black girl. Instead they alienate the people (both men and women) that liked the franchise and all the girls they hoped to capture are more interested in princess romance stories based on earth.

Blogger LP9 Solidified in Gold! Rin Integra August 05, 2016 9:57 AM  

SJW did win at EPSN, its a ruined outlet.

I try not to notice or laugh at ESPN but at the gyms, there are afternoon shift hosts, one looks like man in womens clothing and the woman looks, well, please forgive me, how to say it...ESPN displays anchors that are best suited for radio not tv. ESPN also always features or promoted these MRC commercials too much, 4 times in 45 mins is absurd.

Anonymous The Ramones August 05, 2016 10:06 AM  

The main cast of Rogue One:

It will star Felicity Jones, Diego Luna, Riz Ahmed, Ben Mendelsohn, Jiang Wen, Donnie Yen, Forest Whitaker, Mads Mikkelsen, Alan Tudyk and Jonathan Aris.

Not one American man, so far as I can tell.

Anonymous The Black Guy Who's Always Standing Next to the Blonde on TV August 05, 2016 10:07 AM  

ESPN losing money??

Oh no! What will I do now??

Anonymous Broken Arrow August 05, 2016 10:10 AM  

ATT Root Sports network is showing the future on sports coverage: just show the games with minimal other stuff.

As for how much money they will lose? All of it, until their hand is forced and the network is sold to someone else who will resurrect or combine it with something else. Once a company is fully converged they will lose every penny, loot every coffer, and shut the door before changing.

Blogger Loyd Jenkins August 05, 2016 10:10 AM  

It was bad enough to call Bruce/Caitlyn "brave." I just listened to ESPN radio. Then they fired Curt Schiller. Okay, dumb, but they have the right. Then the cut Curt out of their historical documentary. Classic SJW. Now I can't bring myself to listen to the radio. All I can do, but I will do it.

Blogger Trimegistus August 05, 2016 10:14 AM  

ESPN is a classic example of Leftward Death Spiral, also visible in comics, SF publishing, "journalism" and academia. It's a destructive positive-feedback situation.

Lefties take over an organization and start slanting it to the left. It starts losing money. Lefties can't admit their slant is the problem so they double down (as VD loves to point out). The slant increases, the money loss becomes catastrophic.

At some point there's a point-of-no-return where the Lefties realize the organization they've been ruining is on the path to failure. This is where a rational person would yank the wheel to the right and try to save it. But for Lefties, the response is to switch to individual virtue signalling in order to boost their personal status at the expense of the failing organization.

Blogger Paul Lutgen August 05, 2016 10:19 AM  

Hold on. How do you know it's SJWs? Here again you have a bunch of betas gammas whatever who take what you say at face value. It could be a variety of factors.

OpenID basementhomebrewer August 05, 2016 10:24 AM  

Paul Lutgen wrote:Hold on. How do you know it's SJWs? Here again you have a bunch of betas gammas whatever who take what you say at face value. It could be a variety of factors.


It likely is a variety of factors, but SJWism is most certainly one of them. Men tune into ESPN to watch and listen to sports or news about sports. They do not tune in to get preached at about the latest SJW cause celebre. ESPN has slowly been focusing more and more on cause celebre and less and less on sports.

Anonymous andon August 05, 2016 10:26 AM  

ESPN has served its purpose for the left - they don't care if it goes out of business (and neither do I).

Anonymous fop August 05, 2016 10:30 AM  

Somewhere Bill Simmons is laughing his ass off.

Blogger Escoffier August 05, 2016 10:30 AM  

Roger Hill wrote:Vox, or anyone else here who might be able to address the question...

When you list the traits of Western Civilization, you mention both race and Christianity. Now obviously both apply in the history of the West. But I am wondering if you would agree that Christianity itself has a transforming power over time within cultures and societies where it takes root and grows? And if that is the case, then Christianity can indeed find commonality and brotherhood (however long awaited) between races, societies and transformed cultures?

I guess my concern is that I have always thought Christianity benefited Western man, and not necessarily the reverse. I believe the words of scripture when it declares that the Church will find in its midst at judgement "a great multitude, which no man could number, out of every nation and of all tribes and peoples and tongues".

Is it not the case that should Christianity take solid root in some far flung nation, growing by God's grace, then this place too would see the cultural benefits of Christian thinking growing right along with it - however violently and bumpy its path?


The key to your question is:when?

You will note that it is at Judgment day, which is to say when Christ redeems the Earth. Today Satan is the ruler of the Earth so while fellow Christians of any race or creed can indeed have fellowship, the larger society is the world which is not redeemed and will not be redeemed. It will be destroyed in point of fact.

We have to be very careful to not conflate the worldly and the spiritual realms which I see happen with great consistency these days.

Blogger James Dixon August 05, 2016 10:39 AM  

> This bitch is going to win. It will happen.

And? How is that worse than what we have now?

You don't seem to understand. We win either way. Trump has already destroyed the credibility of the GOPe. Obama and Hillary are destroying the credibility of the Democrats. The stage for new parties actually representing the American people has been set.

> One of the most effective things an American can do today to fight the zeitgeist is to cancel his cable subscription.

As if I could get cable or receive a digital broadcast where I live. :) TV isn't an option for us.

Blogger Wanda Sherratt August 05, 2016 10:50 AM  

I haven't watched major league sports of any kind for years. The only sport that can get me to turn on the TV now is golf, and the reason why I like it is because it's supremely civilized. Now that I don't have to watch Tiger Woods baring his teeth in victory, I can enjoy seeing gentlemen behaving with restraint. And if you look at the ethnic makeup of the crowds that follow around on the greens, that'll go a long way to explaining why golf still retains its gentility.

Baseball used to be that way too - winning pitchers didn't leap around shouting, that was what the spectators in the stands were supposed to do. The most a pitcher would do was doff his cap to acknowledge the cheers.

Tonight the Olympics begins, and I'm sure to watch some of that, even though it hasn't been really enjoyable for years. The same SJW contamination has spread over everything. I'm Canadian, so I'm wearily resigned to all the cheerleading over homo relationships in the athlete's bios, and since there are an equal number of women's events as men's there are plenty. Spontaneous moments can show up, though. My favorite was 2 Olympics ago, during an equestrian event (another remant of civilized Western culture). The big A-list sports personalities cover the events where Canada is favoured to win a medal, particularly a gold. This was a lesser event, where Canada was participating but not expected to win, so the announcers were junior news people without much experience. Through a series of unexpected errors, the Canadian rider and his horse, Big Ben, ended up rising through the ranks until they were tied with the number one ranked rider (German or Austrian, I can't remember which). They had to do a playoff round, and I remember hearing the excitement creeping into the announcers' voices as they realized, "My God! We could actually win a gold medal here!" The German went first, did very well, then it was the Canadian's turn, and the announcers were so keyed up with excitement, they did something you almost never see - they fell completely silent during the ride. Just like the rest of us watching, they were holding their breaths. Then the Canadian won, and it was fantastic! I have very few memories of any Olympic moments, because hardly any of them are unpredictable.

Anonymous BGKB August 05, 2016 10:52 AM  

This is a good thing no more white people wasting their free time watching games that are decided by which team can manage their steroids better. ESPN kept on groids who committed serious crimes while working for them but fired a guy for saying men shouldn't be in girls bathrooms.

I don't see how that changes in the next few election cycles.

Perhaps you will get an up close look at Pinochet's helicopter?

ESPN will cater to the migrants, as will other big business.

Will ESPN's top earners be rooster fighting or women + Male donkey shows?
ESPNs fawning over Michael Sam was sickening and was the last straw for me.

They could at least have waited until a good gay player presented himself. Being a bottom didn't help his combined time.

in ESPN's case? Did SJWism cause the loss of viewers

Not enough gays watch football for pushing Mike Sam to matter.
Related: US wetback token gymnast out of competition because only US judges will give affirmative action ratings. http://sports.yahoo.com/news/olympic-competition-hasnt-begun-and-already-one-u-s-gymnast-has-lost-013024786.html

Blogger Frank Gappa August 05, 2016 10:54 AM  

ESPN is bundled where I live, I have no choice but to purchase the package which includes their programming. How are people dropping ESPN? Are they cutting the cord completely or are people moving to Dish networks?

Blogger John Wright August 05, 2016 10:56 AM  

@37
"Commonality and brotherhood do not require trying to integrate distinct cultures."

Hear, hear.

One of the works of genius of the Founding Fathers was the idea of Federalism (which worked, more or less, about as well as any other human institution, up to the Progressive Age and the abolition of state appointment of Senators)

Likewise, the Catholic Church has a principal called 'subsidiarity' which is simply the idea of keeping the power as close to the local level as can be: which is why saints, for example, are recognized by local bishops, not by the Vatican.

Federalism or subsidiarity are an attempt to achieve the benefit of an extended order (i.e. free trade) without the detriment of totalitarianism (i.e. borderless globalism).

Blogger Wanda Sherratt August 05, 2016 11:03 AM  

I was wrong about the horse: it wasn't Big Ben, it was Eric Lamaze on Hickstead, at the 2008 Beijing Olympics.

Anonymous Gen. Kong August 05, 2016 11:04 AM  

The thing I've noticed is that when the book value of an entity like ESPN goes down, it will not be the SJWs at the very top (Soros, Gates, Buffet, Zuckerberg, Icahn, et al) who get burned. They inevitably walk away with a tidy golden parachute. It's the cucks who are left holding the bag - more than ready to take the "generous" from the next vampire-squid to buy up the place for pennies on the dollar (if that much). The cucks - all believers in magic-dirt and other assorted fairy-tales - utterly fail to understand that there is nothing free about a rigged market.

The elites who have direct and indirect access to the counterfeiting machine never have to worry about losing money even if they actually do lose money (which is rare) because it's fake money. It's not even the fact that counterfeiting via fictional reserve banksterism is going on which rigs the markets, but that fact that a) only a select group has this magic power; and b) everyone else on the Monopoly board is forced to accept their counterfeit cash at gunpoint (literally). Like the New Duranty Times, ESPN is too big to fail and will no doubt be useful to sucker in the next batch of cucks for a "golden opportunity" as the SJWs who ran the place into the ground merely double down with more of the SJW propaganda. The irony is that there is a very simple way to deal with it - and much else - never watch it again. Sadly, public edumacayshun and the idiocracy's continual faith therein guarantees that the axiom attributed to P.T. Barnum (there's one born every minute) remains in force now more than ever.

OpenID dreadilkzee August 05, 2016 11:12 AM  

Roger Hill wrote:Vox, or anyone else here who might be able to address the question...

When you list the traits of Western Civilization, you mention both race and Christianity. Now obviously both apply in the history of the West. But I am wondering if you would agree that Christianity itself has a transforming power over time within cultures and societies where it takes root and grows? And if that is the case, then Christianity can indeed find commonality and brotherhood (however long awaited) between races, societies and transformed cultures?

I guess my concern is that I have always thought Christianity benefited Western man, and not necessarily the reverse. I believe the words of scripture when it declares that the Church will find in its midst at judgement "a great multitude, which no man could number, out of every nation and of all tribes and peoples and tongues".

Is it not the case that should Christianity take solid root in some far flung nation, growing by God's grace, then this place too would see the cultural benefits of Christian thinking growing right along with it - however violently and bumpy its path?

Not picking a fight with anyone - just seeking input.



Just look at the example of the Hebrew Tribe system they were all Hebrew but for the most part stayed with in tribal groups. Yes, an African Christian is better than an African Pagan, but just look at the collective learning Europe had to do with Christianity. Even then French Catholics and Italian Catholics generally stayed with in their people groups. Yes, there are exceptions but they are exactly that, exceptions. Right now Europe is really staying together because of the collective 'Christian' heritage that was built up over 1200+ years. Wasn't until after World War 2 that they actually came together to some degree. Heck even during WWII there was an understanding of Christian ethics on both sides. Medics were not purposefully shot by either side. That doesn't happen in Christian groups VS any other group. It was Christian Europe that lead to the Geneva convention which really only worked to any degree with Christian nations. throw any other group into that mix and violations abound.

But back to you question: In general Asia for the Christian Asians. Africa for the Christian Africans. I will meet my brothers from foreign lands and enjoy celebrating our shared belief in Christ, but that doesn't mean I have any authority in saying what they should or should not do in their homeland. As a culture and people group they still have to mature through the process of being Christians who come from African (or where ever) just as European Christians had to collectively mature through that process.

Again, there will be exceptions, but an exception is just that. An exception and not the rule. As a Christian we should recognize the exceptions but that doesn't mean we can apply that to everyone. That would be like me saying "VD is a really intelligent Native American, those Native American's are geniuses".

Blogger tz August 05, 2016 11:26 AM  

@18 Jesus kingdom was not of this world. Christianity did not save the Roman Empire, only individuals within.

Christianity perfects what is there, and perhaps clears the blindness to virtue, but it was not Luther or Calvin that created the foundations of American law. It was the English and much blood. The civil war, Henry VIII (who beheaded my Catholics), the non-conformists and the Revolutionary war. 1000 years in the making.

Because there are different virtues, Christian Sweden, Germany, Italy, and even the Native Americans will be different. South America was Christian from before 1776, as was Spain and the Netherlands. Was it better than paganism? Yes. Was it the applied hard virtues that made the US great? No. Also remember the US had slavery and the southern half of churches didn't condemn it, but said it saved the heathen.

@77 Federalism should mean smaller as you go higher. The busybodies in my town I know directly. Those in DC are worse. When it was the European Common Market, it worked. The EU was doomed from the start.
Law at whatever level has to be a widely accepted social contract. The common denominator.
When you have diversity, there is little commonality. How many laws does US Constitutional (originalist) law have in common with Sharia? Or even Roman Law. Or South American standards?
The Constitution was the subset of laws common to all the states, but no more.

Anonymous BGKB August 05, 2016 11:30 AM  

Trump Surprise: http://www.calculatedriskblog.com/2016/08/off-topic-update-on-litmus-test-moments.html

Ignoring the fact the judge is an anchor baby whose LA Raza Lawyers organization put out instructions to attack his businesses any way they legally can. Just because he was squatted out in America doesn't make him American.

Blogger tz August 05, 2016 11:40 AM  

@18 - put simply, it is a specific subset of Christian - biblical - virtues that results in Western Civilization, and a smaller set for the USA's vision.
Christianity can baptize any culture and it will be better off, and we all should help our fellow members of the Body of Christ, but a hand will not be a foot. Nor a man change into a woman. Trans-cultural is as absurd as trans-gender.
Even in Acts, Jewish and Greek Christians were different.

It is also a recognition of the dignity of other cultures that don't create hard competition or prefer muscular Christianity. They may prefer the extended family soft socialism. That is not American, but not wrong or worse. We should not go there and try to uproot their culture and impose ours (Iraq? Afghanistan?), but they should not do so to ours.

Even the Native Americans. The tribes with horses asked to be ranchers, but whites decided farming was more "Christian". It didn't work.

Anonymous Gen. Kong August 05, 2016 11:46 AM  

@#35.
I've yet to see a single member of the elite receive justice. For them, there is only one just sentence on this mortal coil: to be handed over to the Lord for their final and eternal Judgement. Their crimes are as great as any in history. They are no doubt much better protected than even their teleprompter-readers who are the nominal rulers of the respective political entities they control, so yes they are indeed hard targets. Nothing is impossible, but the cost would likely be quite high to remove even a single one in such a direct manner.

I expect a more effective strategy involves dumping sand in the gears of their machines with the inevitable results - also unpleasant but arguably less costly in terms of our own lives. A great failure on our side is that of understanding the difference between the greater enemy (George Soros and his type, plus the apparat which keeps it going) and the numerous lesser enemies (Musloid colonizers and dindu savages, for example). The lesser is dependent upon the greater, who are enabled by our own people.

What's more likely to be effective in the long run? Sending some Musloid colonizers to their 72-virgin fantasia or removing the Churchians who have organized their invasion and receive government payment for re-settling them? Musloids don't much care about dying, while Churchians very much do. Even this is for the future though, for the badge-gang goondas are there not to protect the intended victims of the colonists, but the Churchians and others who facilitate the colonization. The trick is to find the weakest link in the chain and break it.

Anonymous Jack Amok August 05, 2016 12:10 PM  

YIH, the interesting thing about the chart at your link is:

network, monthly cost Subscribers (K)
ESPN: $7.04 89,465K

Compared to:
NFL Network: $1.40 69,310K
MLB Network: $0.26 65,995K
NBA TV: $0.23 54,418K
NHL TV: $0.32 ~37,000K
Big Ten Network: $1.00* ~79,000K
SEC Network: $1.30* ~69,000k

The providers are starting to cut out the middle-man. Just like in Publishing, the SJWs infiltrated the part of an industry that was easily replicable because it had degenerated into non-value added rent seeking. Or maybe it was the SJWs who turned it into a rent-seeking do-nothing business, hard to say sometimes. But the two definitely go together. Parasites that prey on other parasites.




Blogger Chris Jackson August 05, 2016 12:13 PM  

The same network that lets guys like Curt Schilling go for having an opinion and champions nonsense at their "sports" awards shows.

They always do the "Private business, if you don't like it don't watch."

OK. Fine. Haven't been watching ESPN for a few years now.

Blogger VD August 05, 2016 12:14 PM  

Vox, has the main stream media itself taken a hit like this? Has its partisanship cost them a great deal of money?

Without question. Look how Fox News took half the cable news market.

Blogger Were-Puppy August 05, 2016 12:20 PM  


@74 Wanda Sherratt

You reminded me of my favorite Olympics + Candian + announcers moment. It was also a proto SJW moment, looking back on it now.

There was a black athlete from Canada in some event which I no longer remember. The announcers got flabbergasted on how to refer to the athlete, and came up with
"Canadian African-American"

:P

Blogger Were-Puppy August 05, 2016 12:29 PM  

@84 Gen. Kong

The trick is to find the weakest link in the chain and break it.
---

+100

Blogger Wanda Sherratt August 05, 2016 12:53 PM  

@88 Were-puppy - I think I recall complaints that some American announcers couldn't let go of the "African-American" descriptor even when talking about black athletes *from Africa*!

Blogger Leo Little Book in Shenzhen August 05, 2016 1:29 PM  

Jesus kingdom was not of this world.

Anglo Saxons are not of North America.

Anonymous Anonymous August 05, 2016 1:35 PM  

Or it could be that people are cutting ties with their cable companies and ESPN is suffering as a result. That seems more likely.

-CD

Anonymous BGKB August 05, 2016 2:28 PM  

The announcers got flabbergasted on how to refer to the athlete, and came up with "Canadian African-American"

No wonder the rest of the world hates Americans they think blacks come from the US.

They always do the "Private business, if you don't like it don't watch."

Bake me a cake of Al Bag Daddy blowing a pig with Moo Ham Mad kissing its backside.

. They inevitably walk away with a tidy golden parachute. It's the cucks who are left holding the bag - more than ready to take the "generous" from the next vampire-squid to buy up the place for pennies on the dollar

Slow motion jewish lightning

Christianity can baptize any culture and it will be better off,

Mestizos drop the church when they come to the US because Uncle Sam has better handouts & they don't even have to show up once a week.

Anonymous A.B. Prosper August 05, 2016 2:53 PM  

Leo Little Book in Shenzhen got it right, comfort is about the only thing being conserved right now.

Its a pretty heady drug though and when the inevitable end comes, the level of discomfort goes sky high ,K selection if you are into Anonymous Conservatives theory are going to be intense.

Right now smart people are stressed and annoyed and getting prepped for war when they are angry Watch Out

Now on topic, It kind of sucks that ESPN had to be converged like that. I don't watch sports , can't see the appeal but a lot of people see that world as an escape from the B/S and now they aren't getting that

Upside of that though is that increases the stress level and puts enough people into a position where they realize that the Left is totalitarian and will never leave them alone, cannot be reasoned with or just given something to go away. They take and take till you are their salve

The next step after that is "What do we do about it?"

The Donald is the current answer but it may not be enough. Probably won't. God help us all.

Anonymous A.B. Prosper August 05, 2016 2:54 PM  

Leo Little Book in Shenzhen wrote:Jesus kingdom was not of this world.

Anglo Saxons are not of North America.


No but not long ago they were 85% of the people living here, maybe more.

Blogger clk August 05, 2016 3:18 PM  

"...The only sport that can get me to turn on the TV now is golf" ... will you think less of me if I point out that golf is a game, not a sport... baseball too is a game -- which is harder.. well you never see golfers retire to play baseball... :)

I too am greatly upset by the slow decrease in class in MLB -- its has to do with the import of players from latin america -- they play a different type of game without the long history...so their players dont always know the right way to behave... nothing a few high and hard pitches to head cant solve but MLB really needs to clamp down on it... and its not a surprise that the major offenders are often in the american league -- just get rid of the DH and watch how fast these primadonnas get straight.



Blogger clk August 05, 2016 3:20 PM  

And you what all this BS about ESPN, Comcast, YES network, Yankees etc \ has done to me ?? ... I now almost exclusively "watch" baseball on the AM radio ... and guess what.. I enjoy it much more ... its way the game was meant to be enjoyed ... low tech, low fidelity AM radio...

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 05, 2016 3:35 PM  

clk wrote:I enjoy it much more ... its way the game was meant to be enjoyed ... low tech, low fidelity AM radio...
On the recommendation of one of the commenters here, I recently attended a vintage base ball game. It was an absolute blast, sitting on the sideline, 10 feet from the field. Not the best players in the world, but they were having fun, and so were we.

Blogger Roger Hill August 05, 2016 5:37 PM  

Thanks to everyone for the detailed replies.

I should say that my questions were based on a confusion on my part. I wanted a better understanding about how others here view the dynamics involved in Christian interactions across cultural and racial divides. I am pretty new perusing here, and find I love the dialog and respect Vox Day immensely. For me it is a learning opportunity every time I visit. I'd say I learn something at every click.

Yes, I do NOT think that Christianity somehow makes unity via transforming races and cultures into carbon copies, or even melding them into one big different society.

I can see the points above - Christian unity does not require the Church universal to be universal in culture, place, social order, or any other thing within the created world. It is a spiritual unity. And might I add, it is certainly a far better unity when differences are accepted within the Body of Christ at large. This holds true from individual to individual, so surely it holds true between cultures and Christians from various races.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 05, 2016 5:50 PM  

Roger Hill wrote:And might I add, it is certainly a far better unity when differences are accepted within the Body of Christ at large.
The Body of Christ is an excellent metaphor. We are all one at a specific level, but we are not the same or even necessarily similar. Does the foot become a hand? Does the liver replace the heart? To demand such is to mock God and to invite the death of the body.

Blogger Yvonne Lorenzo August 05, 2016 6:10 PM  

I think this is great news because as Castalia House has proven with publishing the best way to combat SJW's is to provide an alternative.

Blogger dfordoom August 05, 2016 10:28 PM  

@58. johnc

One of the most effective things an American can do today to fight the zeitgeist is to cancel his cable subscription. Just cancel the damn thing and stop dutifully forking over $50 - $100 every month to these losers.

Agreed.

Also remember that every time you go to see a Hollywood movie you're putting money in the pockets of those who are destroying civilisation.

Anonymous Spartacus xxxxx August 05, 2016 11:50 PM  

Gen. Kong wrote:@35.

I've yet to see a single member of the elite receive justice. ...they are indeed hard targets. Nothing is impossible, but the cost would likely be quite high to remove even a single one in such a direct manner.

I expect a more effective strategy involves dumping sand in the gears of their machines...
the greater enemy (George Soros and his type, plus the apparat which keeps it going)... The trick is to find the weakest link in the chain and break it.


We have seen higher-up money-elites rubbed out from time to time. A few years ago, there was a quickly-squelched story about a jewish billionaire in France, had the guards on the grounds, full security systems in his house, the works. The team got in and out clean anyways. There's been a few other such stories and 'accidents'. That does seem to be the extent of 'their' justice system.

On the other hand, it is amazing that no one has neutralized Soros, to use that example. Even back in the day, after the Bank of England swindle, there had to have been plenty of motivated players. Mediation question- Why is Soros still upright?

Weakest link at that level is the rivalry between pirates. Tough to work that angle from the outside and way down here. However, at each level down there are also identifiable weak links, the ones that bind Dept. A to Dept. B, for one example. That's one place where sand can go.

Anonymous Frankenstein McBadperson August 06, 2016 5:14 AM  

"I recently attended a vintage base ball game. It was an absolute blast, sitting on the sideline, 10 feet from the field."

Go watch a high-school football game in non-urban Texas. (Not pro, not college --which is pre-pro, really-- but high-schoolers.) Your head will explode. It's the best performance art in the nation, really quite amazing and instructional.

Blogger Garrett Patterson August 06, 2016 11:09 PM  

(OT):
All POTUS Trump needs to do is have the FBI take Soros into custody on his next visit to this great nation of ours, and present him to the Russian Embassy in DC.

Problem. Solved.

And y'all need to use that italicized phrase a lot more.

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