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Friday, August 12, 2016

The decline of white America

Is the decline of America because America is, by definition, white:
Surveys by the Public Religion Research institute show that nearly 40 percent of Americans say that newcomers from other countries threaten traditional American customs and values. Thirty one percent of white people say that "the idea of America where most people are not white bothers me."

This discomfort with growing diversity is generally most evident among Americans who are older and more conservative. To understand it, it helps to understand where they're coming from. The census data show that roughly half of white Americans lived in a county where 9 out of 10 people were white in 1980. Today, just over a quarter do. Raising our threshold to 98 percent white, as in the maps above, shows that 15 percent of white Americans lived in these near-exclusively white areas in 1980, while less than one percent do today.

Of course, these thresholds are somewhat arbitrary. A county that goes from 98.1 percent white in 1980 to 97.6 percent white in 2010 is not necessarily experiencing a demographic revolution. But the sharp drop in the aggregate number of these nearly all-white counties makes for a useful marker of demographic change.

This 30-year timespan is within living memory for many of the people expressing unease with racial changes. They can look back on a time when literally everyone around them looked like them, and compare it to the present day, where people are becoming more and more different from each other -- at least at the level of skin color.
What is so brutally dishonest about this coverage by the mainstream media is that it completely ignores all the other reasons Americans might not be enthusiastic about seeing their country invaded and their nation destroyed, for one or more of the following reasons:

  • Reduced average intelligence
  • Fewer jobs
  • Lower wages
  • Less political representation
  • Reduced political influence
  • Less community engagement
  • Increased pollution and environmental damage
  • More expensive housing
  • More crowded roads
  • Uglier people
  • Differing standards of home and yard maintenance
  • Increased difficulty in communicating
  • More support for government intervention in their lives
  • The increased likelihood of war and ethnic cleansing
To boil all that down to racism and a desire to see people who look like you is not merely disingenuous, it is completely dishonest.

Never forget that homogeneous nations come out of heterogeneous empires.

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Blogger Conan the Cimmerian August 12, 2016 3:33 PM  

Uglier people

ain't that the truth

Anonymous Mike August 12, 2016 3:35 PM  

Diversity's harmful effect on community engagement was documented thoroughly -- and reluctantly! -- by liberal sociologist Robert Putnam of Harvard.

Blogger Unknown August 12, 2016 3:36 PM  

Your last sentence is perfect. My country emerged from the Ottoman empire, and then got subsumed in the 'Yugoslav' idea. We are still experiencing the effects of that. What is going on in the states will reverberate for centuries.

OpenID paworldandtimes August 12, 2016 3:42 PM  

This discomfort with growing diversity is generally most evident among Americans who are older and more conservative

This sleigh of hand goes back generations. I remember hea ring this back in high school, how ours is the more open minded generation. Fact is, territoriality comes to men when they start families. When I was 24 , I couldn't care less if blacks lived in my apartment complex.

This territoriality plays out everywhere in life. Around where I live, knowing which county and state parks are diversity-free is an art form. No White family wants to fish or picnic in proximity of fat Mestizos or loud Blacks.

PA

Anonymous Toastrider August 12, 2016 3:42 PM  

Is it race or is it culture?

I'm not sure I agree with Vox on the prospect that it's a racial issue (my rationale stems from those nonwhites who turn out 'normal'; invariably, they are brought up in actual family households, with culture essentially indistinguishable from other constructive families).

But the funny (or sad thing) is that it doesn't really matter one bit who's correct. The damage is extraordinarily severe, and will require what amounts to a wholesale fumigation just to set it right. Cultural extirpation (culturecide?) or actual ethnic cleansing; might as well ask if the chicken or the egg came first.

Anonymous Ezekiel Cassandros August 12, 2016 3:43 PM  

Crime.

The wages of diversity is rape.

Anonymous Amarnoth August 12, 2016 3:44 PM  

"In short, to understand the demographics of where we're going and how we'll get there, it's useful to understand where we came from -- and in how short a time period."

"increased likelihood of war and ethnic cleansing"

Whenever the U.S. dollar collapses. Which is soon. War will be the game.

Question: When the next global financial crisis kicks the dollar off its throne, will the AIIB replace the World Bank? And what is the outlook for a multi-polar world where the XDR is the global reserve currency?

Constant not-war warfare? ...Constant annexation/insurgency that's just Cold enough to avoid a Hot nuclear war à la Ukraine&Syria?

Blogger Matamoros August 12, 2016 3:45 PM  

The U.S. transitioned from nation to empire in 1865 with the defeat of the Confederate States and their subjugation.

It was then that Blacks were made citizens and given rights above Whites (in the beginning only in the defeated South), and began the processes that lead to our dysfunctional America today.

Blogger Student in Blue August 12, 2016 3:46 PM  

@Toastrider
Is it race or is it culture?

Culture is inexplicably linked to race.

Blogger Matamoros August 12, 2016 3:47 PM  

Is it race or is it culture?

Race creates the culture, without the race the culture cannot exist.

Blogger Brian S August 12, 2016 3:51 PM  

ah, the one topic even more toxic than trump. kinda funny how prob not even a year or 2 ago I would have shrieked "WAYYYSISSSSST!" at Vox for this post.

Blogger professorastro August 12, 2016 3:52 PM  

Viva Tio Samuel!

Anonymous Toastrider August 12, 2016 3:52 PM  

@11: And that's why things have gotten to this point. Every time someone has pointed out 'Hey, um, why are members of X group acting like utter fuckwits?' the response has been 'DAT'S RAYCIST!'.

I'm contemplating moving funds to Singapore at this rate.

Blogger tz August 12, 2016 3:54 PM  

It would be one thing to have a Japanese neighbor who spoke perfectly unaccented fluent English with a meticulously cared for yard, who would cooperate and share, and generally try to be "American", and these rapefugees who speak Urdu, dress strangely, are ugly, dirty, wasteful, and destructive, obnoxious, and have no intention of integrating.

It is one thing to be whatever the cultural equivalent of "Trans" is (Ameriboo?) who while non-white does everything to appear like a white stuck in a non-white body, and another thing entirely to refuse to assimilate.

The "melting pot" is near the "boiling point".

Blogger Jehu August 12, 2016 3:57 PM  

Cultures make races and vice versa in a moderately long feedback loop. If, for instance, your group is particularly good at merchant abilities, it is extremely likely to make them high status in its culture (or more precisely, make the absence of said abilities low status). Status drives sex and sex drives what the next generation looks like. Repeat over 500+ years and you get some pretty strong racial deltas.

Blogger Student in Blue August 12, 2016 4:01 PM  

To answer his rationale a little more thoroughly:
I'm not sure I agree with Vox on the prospect that it's a racial issue (my rationale stems from those nonwhites who turn out 'normal'; invariably, they are brought up in actual family households, with culture essentially indistinguishable from other constructive families).

Either those "normal" people are outliers, or they spend a lot of their time combating their own instincts.

The former feels out of place in both racial groups, and probably would have always felt a bit out of place -- as an anecdote, I knew a very "white" black man who always loved classical music and his sense of longer-time-preferences put him at odds with the rest of his peers when he was growing up, but hanging around white people after he went to college presented different frustrations -- so really it's almost like the case of half-elves in fantasy.

The latter will generally be alright when times are good, but there'll always be that internal strife. In addition, when stress is high and times are bad, every person of every race resorts to instincts.

Of course you can try and acculture a race of people until they start acting better, and hope that the culture propogates a self-selection of longer-term-thinking people via what socially is considered high-value. It reeks quite a bit of animal husbandry and breeding for selected traits, however.

Blogger Robert Divinity August 12, 2016 4:02 PM  

The gleeful subtext and sometimes tone of Luegenpresse's white decline articles make me literally laugh and figuratively puke.

Blogger darkdoc August 12, 2016 4:09 PM  

Add intermarriage.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents August 12, 2016 4:10 PM  

To boil all that down to racism and a desire to see people who look like you is not merely disingenuous, it is completely the standard narrative

Fixed that for you.

Maybe it is just my own impression, but it seems like the Lügenpresse has been getting more and more shrill in the last couple of years on the topics we are not supposed to Notice. More than a whiff of desperate doubling down.

I wonder if the propaganda organs in the USSR were like this in the late 1980's?

Blogger Gaiseric August 12, 2016 4:11 PM  

Student in Blue wrote:Culture is inexplicably linked to race.
I think you might have meant inextricably, but as a bit of biting sarcasm, the word you used is pretty nice too.

Anonymous Toastrider August 12, 2016 4:11 PM  

@16:

"Either those "normal" people are outliers, or they spend a lot of their time combating their own instincts. "

OK, fair enough. Do British blacks have the same issues that American blacks do? If not, why? (I'm not talking about the Pakis, mind you.)

"Of course you can try and acculture a race of people until they start acting better, and hope that the culture propogates a self-selection of longer-term-thinking people via what socially is considered high-value. It reeks quite a bit of animal husbandry and breeding for selected traits, however."

Wouldn't bother me in the slightest. As Vox points out, we're selecting for negative traits right now. Maybe we could salvage something.

Anonymous BGKB August 12, 2016 4:14 PM  

Noticed no comments on the OP. Is it even worth leaving one in moderation to rattle the leftists cages?

Anonymous WinstonWebb August 12, 2016 4:14 PM  

"The trouble with Scotland, is that it's full of Scots."

And to think, 'twas the bad guy that said it.

Anonymous WinstonWebb August 12, 2016 4:17 PM  

BGKBAugust 12, 2016 4:14 PM
Noticed no comments on the OP


That's 'cause COMMENTS ARE CLOSED.

Anonymous Avenge Harambe! August 12, 2016 4:19 PM  

@ Toastrider

Culture is the product of race.

In aggregate:

White people create Europes, United States of Americas and Canadas... (Western Civilization)

Indians create Indias...

Mestizos create Mexicos, Central Americas and South Americas...

Africans create Africas...

See the pattern? Part of higher intellect is pattern recognition.

Anonymous Toastrider August 12, 2016 4:24 PM  

@25:

Did you remember to account for cross contamination? Keep in mind, none of those areas evolved in a vacuum.

You know what else is part of higher intellect? Making sure your argument isn't flimsy.

Blogger residentMoron August 12, 2016 4:25 PM  

Toastrider

I have West Indian British-born friends who were born and raised in white England, went to University, got engineering degrees, have a protestant work ethic and are more fucking English than the English. They come from a sub-culture whose explicit aim was to be as English as possible while being black.

I also know, but do not befriend, people of the exact same origin, who dress like Kingston gangsters, talk only in patois, despise education, love crime not cricket, deal in drugs to supplement the dole, and laugh about rape.

Culture matters, indeed culture is dispositive, but culture is a function of decisions made by the individual and their forebears. Said another way;

Character is destiny.

Anonymous BigGayKoranBurner August 12, 2016 4:30 PM  

Uglier people ..ain't that the truth

I am glad I never drank enough to have Kratman's beer goggles.

on community engagement was documented thoroughly -- and reluctantly! -- by liberal sociologist Robert Putnam of Harvard

I wish I could tell from what info he gives out if whites are still doing as much charity, because I think he ascribes non whites doing none that doesn't benefit them to whites still.

Is it race or is it culture?

IQ is mostly genetic, but even if it was not no one is going to take every niglet away from it's single mom and place it in a rice paddy so that it gets the same chance at a perfect MATH SAT as Asian boys 1 out of 50.

my rationale stems from those nonwhites who turn out 'normal'; invariably, they are brought up in actual family households

As a gun owning faggot that doesn't want gay alimony, let me speak for the outlier unicorns.
“Viva Trump! Viva la Junta! Viva! Viva! Viva Trump's Pinochet Helicopter!”

Do British blacks have the same issues that American blacks do?

Did you miss the massive race riots in London summer 2011 after a swat team called Operation Trident had a shootout with a black drug dealer? Security video of a little nigglet shooting someone in council housing was shocking even before that.

Blogger Brian S August 12, 2016 4:33 PM  

new moly vid, mostly on topic...

https://youtu.be/poacFc6nhLo

Anonymous Toastrider August 12, 2016 4:33 PM  

@28:

"Did you miss the massive race riots in London summer 2011 after a swat team called Operation Trident had a shootout with a black drug dealer? Security video of a little nigglet shooting someone in council housing was shocking even before that."

In my defense, yes, I did miss it; that's why I asked the question. I admit it was a twofer of 'I have no idea how it is over there, can someone cough up some data?' and 'I also know damn well the Brit officials fucking whitewash their crime statistics, so I'd rather get my info from someone firsthand'.

Blogger Doug Cranmer August 12, 2016 4:34 PM  

Here in Canada you often hear, "It's cultural," to explain away any group's bad behaviour. It's practically knee-jerk, as is simply accepting this as a real explaination rather than the fact they ARE loud, violent, illiterate, etc.

I've had immigrants here try to use that on me. They understand the game better than we do.

Blogger ZaijiaN August 12, 2016 4:35 PM  

Heck, I'm not white and "the idea of America where most people are not white bothers me."

I wonder what the % of non-white respondents agree with that!

Blogger Doug Cranmer August 12, 2016 4:38 PM  

Well, weren't American blacks pretty much effectively bred and selected for the traits we see today?

Anonymous Toastrider August 12, 2016 4:40 PM  

@31: Yeah, but the proper response to THAT is 'then their culture sucks and needs to change'.

And when they refuse, they get the 'two doors' option as presented by John C. Wright.

And frankly, I will not care which door they pick.

OK, enough hitting F5 like a demented woodpecker. I'll be back later for the roundup :)

Anonymous BGKB August 12, 2016 4:40 PM  

also know damn well the Brit officials fucking whitewash their crime statistics, so I'd rather get my info from someone firsthand'

London has it so bad that faggots marched along side skin heads protesting UK Soldiers Lee Rigby beheading in broad daylight. If you look at 1:20 on the video you will see a rainbow flag, but ludenpress said it was a NOT SEE rally. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQ_iXZyoN7k

If cops & Social workers wont do anything to protect 1400 indigenous white little british girls from 3rd world moslem rapists in Rotherham UK because they fear being called racist what would they do for puffs? http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-28990025

Blogger Leo Little Book in Shenzhen August 12, 2016 4:40 PM  

Diversity requires harsher pressure to conform to the lowest common denominator, thus reducing tolerance for beneficial neurodiversity.

In low trust environments, high-functioning sociopaths win big.

Diversity is our strength, said the glib snakes.

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Anonymous TLM August 12, 2016 4:50 PM  

Uglier People- You nailed it! This place has gotten fugly. As a teenager in the 80's I do remember how good looking people were in this country. Obesity has done its part to help destroy that, but the influx of ugly browns (hindus, muslims, Mexicans, etc) has turned this once great country into a giant boner killer. For those that deny this watch Battle of the Network Stars from the late 70's & early 80's on ESPN Classic. You'll see how far we've fallen.

OpenID paworldandtimes August 12, 2016 4:59 PM  

Uglier people... and the spectre of the next generation's intermarriage with them.

PA

Anonymous FP August 12, 2016 5:00 PM  

"Of course, these thresholds are somewhat arbitrary. A county that goes from 98.1 percent white in 1980 to 97.6 percent white in 2010 is not necessarily experiencing a demographic revolution. But the sharp drop in the aggregate number of these nearly all-white counties makes for a useful marker of demographic change."

Yes, WAPO, quite arbitrary indeed. How about an even more useful marker, my native California. In 1970 it was 78% white. In 2010 it was 38% white. Welcome to ethnic cleansing, America style.

Of course when I see protesters waving the Mexican flag here in the northwest, I'm just being a mono-cultural bigot.

Anonymous KitF August 12, 2016 5:01 PM  

@30 I also know damn well the Brit officials fucking whitewash their crime statistics, so I'd rather get my info from someone firsthand'.

Well, first hand, I can say that numbers play a big role, both in toto and in a specific location. Black ghettos in London, Liverpool (check out the Toxteth riots of the 80s) and Birmingham have always produced British versions of Detroit or Baltimore. Low density black populations are polite and assimilate, on the whole. But as their populations increase and creep beyond the historic areas, the crime, blight and general toxicity go with them.

We also have the problem of the white underclass, wigger gangsta-wannabes, who talk and act black, aspiring rappers and baby daddies including. Shameful but conspicuous through their dress and bogus 'Chicago' accents. Innit.

OpenID paworldandtimes August 12, 2016 5:03 PM  

the influx of ugly browns (hindus, muslims, Mexicans, etc) has turned this once great country into a giant boner killer

An Eastern European au pair I knew 15 years ago said that she was shocked to discover that America is the world's toilet paper.

PA

Anonymous DT August 12, 2016 5:12 PM  

They can look back on a time when literally everyone around them looked like them, and compare it to the present day, where people are becoming more and more different from each other -- at least at the level of skin color.

"At the level of skin color."

Not at the level of intelligence, criminal behavior, political affiliation, consumption of resources, contribution to resources, loyalty to the Constitution, or goals for the future of the nation.

No sir. SCIENCE! says we're all the same under the skin. So we're only different from each other at the level of skin color. Anyone who questions that is rayciss.

Anonymous Bobby Farr August 12, 2016 5:13 PM  

Most of the reasons Vox lists argue against allowing the immigration of the dregs of the earth, who constitute the overwhelming majority of modern immigrants. It would be nice if the debate moved to focus on the benefits of social cohesion and opposition to immigration per se, even high quality immigrants. Given that the mainstream arguments against immigration in the US in recent decades have been limited to tepid suggestions from a few mavericks that enforcing existing laws might be a good idea and, much more recently, that admitting terrorists might not be desirable, I'm not optimistic of the debate progressing to explicit support of ethnic homogeneity anytime in the near future.

Trump, whether by design or accident, seems to have cobbled together the most restrictive immigration program capable of getting widespread support from whites using arguments based on national security (blanket bans on immigration from Muslim countries and Western countries with large Muslim populations and deportation of refugees) and the rule of law and fairness (a wall and mass deportation of illegals). He has previously suggested national security might provide an excuse for a complete moratorium on immigration.

This isn't as good as explicitly ethnicity-based citizenship but is probably the largest step in the right direction that can realistically be achieved given demographic and political realities in the US.

Blogger frigger611 August 12, 2016 5:16 PM  

I've moved a number of times in my life when things start getting a little too diverse. Usually starts with the new neighbor who puts his ugly old ruined couch on the porch. (Patio furniture is NOT just old living room furniture). Next come the pit bulls and rotts on big chains. I'm a ghost...

Anonymous JN August 12, 2016 5:16 PM  

Who is this Ray Cis guy? And why do lefties hate him?

Blogger praetorian August 12, 2016 5:17 PM  

From AmRen:

"If New York City were all white, the murder rate would drop by 91 percent, the robbery rate by 81 percent, and the shootings rate by 97 percent."

Mike Enoch made the hilarious point that pretty much every problem that he blamed on government when he was a libertarian autiste went away if you just got rid of the NAMs.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 12, 2016 5:18 PM  

Culture or race?

I have a co-worker. He's Black, about 115 IQ, very good at his job. One wife, still married. Raised his own 3 kids. Very prudent, plans ahead, delays gratification.

He can afford to live in any non-millionaire neighborhood in Portland. And yet, he lives in one of the few black neighborhoods. God-awful 40-minute commute and all. Why? He's "more comfortable" there.

Culture and race are not separate things.

Blogger Were-Puppy August 12, 2016 5:29 PM  

@42 KitF

We also have the problem of the white underclass, wigger
---

Damn, sucks you have those clowns over there. Haven't seen one around here lately. They have achieved close to maximum uselessness.

Blogger Student in Blue August 12, 2016 5:51 PM  

@Gaiseric
I think you might have meant inextricably, but as a bit of biting sarcasm, the word you used is pretty nice too.

Ahaha, you're right. Wrong word choice on my end - still not all that used to people who can pick out the difference between "inexplicable" and "inextricable".

@Toastrider
OK, fair enough. Do British blacks have the same issues that American blacks do? If not, why? (I'm not talking about the Pakis, mind you.)

I'm not experienced with British blacks by any means, so anything I say would be conjecture. At my best guess, the genetic mixture would be different from the Brit blacks than the American blacks, because if at the very least the genetic stock is different (Brits + West Coast & Ghana Africans, versus Brits, Germans, Nords & Irish + West Coast & Ghana Africans).

Blogger Al From Bay Shore August 12, 2016 6:00 PM  

@48 That's an interesting comment. I could have moved into a white neighborhood but I felt that I wouldn't be comfortable there. Both my wife and I were born and raised in middle class Black neighborhoods and, when searching for a home, we wanted to move into Black neighborhoods like the ones in which we grew up in. We found one and bought a house there/ here.

It is important to note "middle class" because that's our culture. We are the proverbial "Bourgeois Negroes" who have chosen to live among other "Bourgeois Negroes" (as opposed to "ghetto" and "Bourg-ghetto").

In scant instances, I've noticed this among Puerto Ricans too. I had a friend who was quick to describe low-class Puerto Ricans as "spics" in the same way I describe low class Blacks as "niggas".

Blogger residentMoron August 12, 2016 6:04 PM  

"Culture and race are not separate things."

No, but that's not the point. The question is, CAN they be?

Your observation implies they're always coterminous but I've seen many examples where they're not.

But we (white Christian people) used to impose our culture on everyone we ruled, on the explicit assertion that it is superior. We used to believe and assert that our ABILITY to impose it was sufficient proof of its superior nature; argument over.

Now our intellectual class teaches our children that all cultures are the same and, hey what a surprise, we've stopped doing that and we're losing the culture wars. Not because our culture is inferior but because we were somehow convinced not to fight.

I'm reminded of the wisdom of Emperor Qin, whose advice to his descendants was;

First, kill all the intellectuals"

Anonymous Daniel H August 12, 2016 6:07 PM  

>> Reduced average intelligence....

This point brings to mind the swimming pool debacle in the Rio Olympics. I have a lot of Brazilian friends, been to Brazil, know lots of Brazilians, very smart Brazilians too. At a glance Brazil seems like a striving first world country, technology wise. Most things work OK, but if you spend more than a little time looking at things you see and sense the dysfunction everywhere. The Brazilians I know tell me this all the time. There are a lot of smart people in Brazil, but there aren't enough as a percentage of the population for things to work smoothly, regularly. The fact that for the past 4 days nobody in Rio can figure out what on earth is going on with water turning green at the Olympic swimming pool and what to do to remedy the situation brings to mind an Idiocracy in all its dysfunctional glory. I cannot imagine (yet) the management of a simple community pool in the American suburbs not figuring out and addressing the problem in a day, yet we are pushing day 5 and nobody in Rio can figure out how to stop the water from turning green. And don't even think that Guanabara Bay will be clean in anyone's lifetime.

Blogger S1AL August 12, 2016 6:07 PM  

@Al - What, in your opinion, is the difference between a middle class white neighborhood and a black one?

Anonymous Icicle August 12, 2016 6:09 PM  

More crowded roads
Differing standards of home and yard maintenance


I eagerly await the donkeys in the intersections.

the influx of ugly browns (hindus, muslims, Mexicans, etc) has turned this once great country into a giant boner killer

Another reason Trump is refreshing. His wife is not a boner killer. You have to go back to JFK for the last example.

Blogger residentMoron August 12, 2016 6:10 PM  

Snidely,

Are you aware of the work of Stephen Wolfram with cellular automata?

He did a number of experiments that disprove the assertion that the existence of racial enclaves is proof positive of negative prejudices.

But, what DOES cause racial clustering is a small (in his experiment, a 1 in 8 preference) bias towards having SOME neighbours who are like me.

I recommend checking it out. Facts matter.

Anonymous BGKB August 12, 2016 6:21 PM  

I eagerly await the donkeys in the intersections.

I was not out at work when I was in San Antonio so I ended up going out with some co workers across the border and saw a woman and male donkey show, but even there it was not in an intersection. That and rooster fights are the only difference from US barrios & mexico.

Blogger Al From Bay Shore August 12, 2016 6:30 PM  

@54
I should clarified when I said "culture". Values are part of culture but there is also an aspect of such that includes leisure, recreation, and past experiences.

The values shared by white middle class culture and Black middle class culture are, from my observations, the same (ie. engaging in and promoting behaviors that create a stable and successful life).

It's those activities that are leisurely, recreational, and based on past experience that I wanted to be around on a consistent basis. This is something I prioritize and found important for my child to be around. I wanted the same "Soul Food" for my child that I ate when I was young. I wanted her around Jazz and House Music like I am. I wanted her to be around HBCU (Historically Black College/ Universities) graduates.

I cannot stress enough though that these "things" are, in my opinion, fixtures of Black middle class "culture". It's like the Cosby Show, that was real.

I did my best trying to explain this but I probably could have done better.

Anonymous Toastrider August 12, 2016 6:34 PM  

Good grief: http://www.fox2detroit.com/news/local-news/188003772-story

And that's why Vox is going to be right in the end, at least regarding the solution. It's irrelevant how we got here: whether it's 6+(2^2) or (3 x 2)+4, the answer is still ten.

Let's move to Mars. I hear Mars is nice this time of year.

Blogger VD August 12, 2016 6:37 PM  

I'm not sure I agree with Vox on the prospect that it's a racial issue (my rationale stems from those nonwhites who turn out 'normal'; invariably, they are brought up in actual family households, with culture essentially indistinguishable from other constructive families).

How very 1980s of you.

I don't give a damn who agrees with this or with the idea that gravity exists. It is a reality. And the only reason you're "not sure" is because reality scares you.

It is, has always been, and will always be a racial issue. Because people are not all equal, they are not all the same, and they are genetically distinct.

Blogger pyrrhus August 12, 2016 6:38 PM  

"Culture matters, indeed culture is dispositive, but culture is a function of decisions made by the individual and their forebears."
Current research suggests that all behavior is at least 50% heritable, while intelligence is more like 70%....That's where your culture comes from...

Blogger S1AL August 12, 2016 6:40 PM  

Al From Bay Shore wrote:@54

I should clarified when I said "culture". Values are part of culture but there is also an aspect of such that includes leisure, recreation, and past experiences.

The values shared by white middle class culture and Black middle class culture are, from my observations, the same (ie. engaging in and promoting behaviors that create a stable and successful life).

It's those activities that are leisurely, recreational, and based on past experience that I wanted to be around on a consistent basis. This is something I prioritize and found important for my child to be around. I wanted the same "Soul Food" for my child that I ate when I was young. I wanted her around Jazz and House Music like I am. I wanted her to be around HBCU (Historically Black College/ Universities) graduates.

I cannot stress enough though that these "things" are, in my opinion, fixtures of Black middle class "culture". It's like the Cosby Show, that was real.

I did my best trying to explain this but I probably could have done better.



Makes sense. I spent some time at a 50/50 black/white church, and I could definitely see significant differences, primarily in the social exuberance of the black folks. Music, entertainment, etc., that's all fairly reasonable. I was just wondering if there was something more that I was missing.

Blogger ChickenChicken Sweep August 12, 2016 6:47 PM  

At a glance Brazil seems like a striving first world country, technology wise."

No, it doesn't. They can't even keep the water on in Sao Paulo. Rich business people take helicopters from roof to roof because to go down and use the streets is an invitation to a kidnapping. Brazil is a broke-dick third world shithole with a very small, very wealthy ruling class and a huge roiling sea of impoverished peons.

Do British blacks have the same issues that American blacks do?

In general, yes, but their experience is differs from the fact they also have an "immigrant" status that doesn't apply to "native" African-Americans. (There were no cotton fields in Hertfordshire). They also have a cultural identity independent of Britain (West Indian, Ghanaian, Nigerian, et al.). Nevertheless, the crime, poverty, and familial breakdown stats for these populations are fairly grim.

Anonymous Icicle August 12, 2016 6:49 PM  

I was not out at work when I was in San Antonio so I ended up going out with some co workers across the border and saw a woman and male donkey show, but even there it was not in an intersection.

It's not only Mexico that does that. But for the sake of argument, let's just focus on Mexico for now.

Crossing the border means you (let's assume) stuck near the border area with larger cities and more American dollars flowing in with closer proximity. As you go south it gets downright medieval. Which is where we increasing drawing immigrants from (pure blood Indio... Oaxaca, Chiapas near Guatamala, so on).

That and rooster fights are the only difference from US barrios & mexico.

Also the latter being filled with Mexicans.

Blogger Al From Bay Shore August 12, 2016 6:52 PM  

@54
One more thing because I didn't completely answer your question: Black middle class neighborhoods like white middle class neighborhoods are not "ghetto". This is not to say that white working class neighborhoods are ghetto. My frame of reference is growing up in the 70s and 80s. Those Black working class neighborhoods from the late 70s and early 80s were not ghetto as were the white middle neighborhoods. Today's times are different. I see more ghetto in the low income Black neighborhoods. In fact, my middle class Black neighborhood is surrounded by "ghetto". We've had a few break-ins in my current neighborhood. Additionally, there were some break-ins in the nineties at my childhood home on Long Island.

I believe changes effected by Great Society set this dynamic in motion. My father speaks of changes in an adjoining neighborhood to ours (Wyandanch) when he was ranting about those break-ins.

I'm doing this off the top of my head so please forgive me.

Blogger Ian Miguel Martin August 12, 2016 7:11 PM  

"He can afford to live in any non-millionaire neighborhood in Portland. And yet, he lives in one of the few black neighborhoods. God-awful 40-minute commute and all. Why? He's "more comfortable" there."

I’m old enough to have grown up in a mostly functional black working/lower-middle class. About 50% seemed perfectly content to live in the nicer sections of all black neighborhoods. The other half tended to prefer neighborhoods that were 10 to 30% black. Only a few lived in “lily white” (a disparaging term) neighborhoods. I can remember house-hunting with my parents and hearing my mom reject neighborhoods because she “didn’t see any blacks.”

My impression is that these attitudes were common until the crack-related crime wave and cultural disintegration of the late 1980’s and early 90’s. My sense these days is that successful blacks are more mobile, more isolated, and more atomized, and that the ghetto masses are to be avoided at all cost. (While at the same time being hypocritically praised and pandered to.)

Blogger Al From Bay Shore August 12, 2016 7:17 PM  

@66
That was spot on! Bourgeoisie Black folks want it both ways. They want it both ways. They follow the "Derbyshire Rules" but then give lip service to unconditional "race solidarity". In my opinion, this is disingenuous; it is cover used to disguise their use of politics to promote self interests in a contradictory manner.

A friend of mine often says "Just because we share the same skin don't mean you're my kin."

Anonymous Daniel H August 12, 2016 7:20 PM  

>>I was not out at work when I was in San Antonio so I ended up going out with some co workers across the border and saw a woman and male donkey show, but even there it was not in an intersection.

Depraved sexual activity exists in many locales and nations, but if any country is responsible for normalizing, ubiquitizing hardcore XXX porn it is the United States of America. Amongst other reasons, posterity will damn us for this.

Call old time morals prudery but they served society. Hell, I can remember when "I am Curious Yellow" and "I am Curious Blue", two interesting but decidedly non-pornographic social documentaries were banned in New York City. Triple X, hardcore porn has coarsened life and society in ways that one cannot be aware of unless he witnessed the before and after effects of unleashing hardcore porn on society.

Blogger Laramie Hirsch August 12, 2016 7:20 PM  

After a decade and a half, I'm finally at odds with Vox about an issue. This issue.

Look, folks. Culture does NOT spawn from someone's race. Culture is born from religion.

So, in the future, when we see ethnic cleansing and violence over identity politics, it is because tribal worship is their/your religion.

The answer is to belong to the Universal Church, which has the power to transcend these globalist-created problems. Without Christ, people will remain short-sighted on this issue. And you can take that to the bank.

Our national ethnic identity was ruined the day men on our continent bought African slaves from Dutch Jews. Only the Catholic Church can get us through the storm to come.

Anonymous Godfrey August 12, 2016 7:21 PM  

The anger isn't about race.

IT'S ABOUT THE DELIBERATE DESTRUCTION OF THE MIDDLE-CLASS.

Anonymous Mr. Rational August 12, 2016 7:21 PM  

Al From Bay Shore wrote:Bourgeoisie Black folks want it both ways. They want it both ways. They follow the "Derbyshire Rules" but then give lip service to unconditional "race solidarity".
And that, sadly, is why your skin color will be your uniform when TSHTF.

It's because nobody, not even Chris Rock, will let White people call a nigger a nigger.

Anonymous Daniel H August 12, 2016 7:22 PM  

@63

>No, it doesn't. They can't even keep the water on in Sao Paulo. Rich business people take helicopters from roof to roof because to go down and use the streets is an invitation to a kidnapping. Brazil is a broke-dick third world shithole with a very small, very wealthy ruling class and a huge roiling sea of impoverished peons.<<

Exaggeration. Brazil has a very large middle class, and enormous swaths of the country are stunningly beautiful and the society does function, just no up to Indiana standards.

Anonymous Godfrey August 12, 2016 7:25 PM  

Open borders for the masses.

And gated communities and crony-wealth for the rich.

Blogger Al From Bay Shore August 12, 2016 7:34 PM  

@71
In my opinion, which is worth nothing plus subway fare, the term "nigger" seems a class designation in the same way "guinea", "spic", or "PWT" were for Italians, Puerto Ricans/ Dominicans, and European whites, respectively.

I trust people to accurately call "balls and strikes". This is not to say that everyone who uses such terms is accurate. If I were called such a name, and I have, I've come to learn that my reaction to such has something to do with how I view myself. It's like that seen in "Deep Cover" where Lawrence Fishburne gives a response to the question "What is the difference between a Black man and a nigger."

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Blogger Sam Lively August 12, 2016 7:44 PM  

Uglier people? I don't agree with that one. A greater selection and variety of pretty girls is up there with more dining options as one of the few pros of large-scale immigration.

Anonymous Frankenstein McBadperson August 12, 2016 7:51 PM  

I think Colonel Kurtz had it about right.

Blogger American Spartan August 12, 2016 7:52 PM  

Sam Lively wrote:Uglier people? I don't agree with that one. A greater selection and variety of pretty girls is up there with more dining options as one of the few pros of large-scale immigration.



Only the ones that come from money are in any way pretty and they are snobs, even worse then native/whites rich girls..

More dinning options? Are you kidding me? We could have all those options without hordes of people pouring into the nation, they have great Italian food in Japan, they did not need to import all of Italy, The have great Mexican Food in Japan, they did not see fit to import Mexico writ large.

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Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents August 12, 2016 8:01 PM  

@79, it's not the alt-Right that's chasing black people out of Compton, California. It's Los Surenos, who are not "white" in any way.

Blaming "whitey" isn't gonna work anymore.

Blogger Unknown August 12, 2016 8:07 PM  


That report looks more shallow than dishonest, but it does highlight the centrality of race in the way those other problems are perceived, even by those who are not racist.

Racial demographics can be as racist or convergent as you want to make them. The more the war-mongers on the Alt-Right try to converge the culture to a color problem, the more likely all those other problems will be perceived as unimportant. It will boil down to skin color, if only for rhetorical efficiency. That report is basically spinning the same rhetorical yarn as the Alt-Right, just in a different direction.

Skin color is the uniform in the Alt-Right's war. This is how the public will end up perceiving it, and this is just fine for racists. If push comes to shove, the racist with a gun isn't going to listen to what you've done or not done to contribute to those social problems, or wait to see which way your yarn spins, he's going to shoot if you're wearing a different uniform.

Four questions to ask yourself before you go into battle:

1. How much white is enough?

2. Is yellow with you or against you?

3. Who will inherit what's left?

4. Where will your children play if you lose?

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents August 12, 2016 8:14 PM  

Skin color is the uniform in the Alt-Right's war.

Skin color has been the uniform in the Left's war against the rest of civilization for years and years. More and more people are beginning to Notice this.

What if they gave a war and only one side came?

Blogger Sam Lively August 12, 2016 8:15 PM  

@78

You aren't on the ground here in SoCal. Diversity on this scale does indeed suck for many of the reasons Vox listed, but pretty women and food are some of the perks.

I met my wife here and she didn't come from anything close to money - her dad came from a family of Mexican farm workers before joining the Marines and he met her Chinese mom while stationed overseas.

Blogger VFM #7634 August 12, 2016 8:21 PM  

Uglier people? I don't agree with that one. A greater selection and variety of pretty girls is up there with more dining options as one of the few pros of large-scale immigration.

@76 Sam Lively
Not if the immigration is of Muslims.

And even the non-Muslims are rapidly getting fatter.

Anonymous Icicle August 12, 2016 8:25 PM  

Only the ones that come from money are in any way pretty and they are snobs, even worse then native/whites rich girls..

No kidding. I guess white privilege includes more noblesse oblige.

More dinning options? Are you kidding me?

I once ate so much sushi I almost turned Japanese.

I really think so.

Nanana-uh-uh-uh.

Anonymous Bobby Farr August 12, 2016 8:37 PM  

I shudder at the thought of the limited exposure to beauty, desperation and/or absence of aesthetic sensibilities that would allow one to conclude that southern CA is full of beautiful women (and to single out the squat, coarse featured Aztecs as being disproportionately attractive).

Anonymous BigGayKoranBurner August 12, 2016 8:38 PM  

1. How much white is enough? Affirmative action shows what is not.
2. Is yellow with you or against you? Every chimp out yellow has been more merciless in killing groids than whites.

3. Who will inherit what's left? Survivors of course.

4. Where will your children play if you lose? They will be slaves to jews and muds if nothing is done.

Blogger LurkingPuppy August 12, 2016 8:48 PM  

Bobby Farr wrote:I shudder at the thought of the limited exposure to beauty, desperation and/or absence of aesthetic sensibilities that would allow one to conclude that southern CA is full of beautiful women
Some of the colonists from the Greater East Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere are kinda pretty.

Blogger praetorian August 12, 2016 9:00 PM  

My impression is that these attitudes were common until the crack-related crime wave and cultural disintegration of the late 1980’s and early 90’s

But jews made a killing selling CDs glorifying black pathologies to white suburban kids, and, in the end, isn't that what really counts?

More dinning options? Are you kidding me?

MFW my own father made the "better food" argument...

Blogger G-S. August 12, 2016 9:00 PM  

I'm white. Doing better than ever actually. Thanks.

Anonymous Federal Plant #6 August 12, 2016 9:02 PM  

Skin color is the uniform in the Alt-Right's war. This is how the public will end up perceiving it, and this is just fine for racists. If push comes to shove, the racist with a gun isn't going to listen to what you've done or not done to contribute to those social problems, or wait to see which way your yarn spins, he's going to shoot if you're wearing a different uniform.

I'm mad as Hell about this too. We need to do something about this. You want to buy some hand grenades? I know a great place.

You guys have Myspace or something so I can penetrate your social circles?

Anonymous A.B. Prosper August 12, 2016 9:17 PM  

Unknown wrote:
SNIP

Four questions to ask yourself before you go into battle:

1. How much white is enough?

2. Is yellow with you or against you?

3. Who will inherit what's left?

4. Where will your children play if you lose?


I'll play

#1 80% is enough, more is better. In areas controlled by Y/T it will probably end up 90% or more with the bulk of non Whites being either military or Demi White (pale Hispanics) Asian or American Indian

#2 Yellow is a small number and they are with Yellow. They might decide to go with another faction in the end it will probably end up Whites

#3 As BGKB said, the survivors

#4 They won't be playing anywhere as likely if Y?T loses he'l be genocided Y/T's side wins its own lands or it dies

Blogger praetorian August 12, 2016 9:20 PM  

I'm white. Doing better than ever actually. Thanks.

Checkmate, racist.

Blogger Stan Hai August 12, 2016 9:34 PM  

@70 No. What is called "white culture" was invented by pagans. Improved on by Christians, yes, but started by polytheists. Religion is part of culture. Culture is a people's natural response to their environment. That natural response is caused by genetics, some of which is race. If culture sprang from religion, then converting to another religion would always change your culture, which it does not.

Blogger Stogie August 12, 2016 9:47 PM  

The major problem with non-white immigrants is how they vote: for bigger government and socialism. That is why the left loves them and does all it can to get more of them. Blacks have been here for 400 years, but my problem with them is their high rate of dysfunction, i.e., their violence, crime and rotten attitudes.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 12, 2016 9:53 PM  

Al From Bay Shore wrote:we wanted to move into Black neighborhoods like the ones in which we grew up in. We found one and bought a house there/ here.

It is important to note "middle class" because that's our culture. We are the proverbial "Bourgeois Negroes" who have chosen to live among other "Bourgeois Negroes"


Exactly, and exactly right. You have a right to live among your own peers, as I do among mine (rural working-class religious Whites). Unfortunately, the Left and the Government (but I repeat myself) have decided that not only must I have Muslims and ghetto Blacks in my neighborhood, so must you.

Anonymous Toastrider August 12, 2016 10:08 PM  

@61:

"How very 1980s of you."

What can I say? I'm a child of the 80's.

"I don't give a damn who agrees with this or with the idea that gravity exists. It is a reality. And the only reason you're "not sure" is because reality scares you."

You want an echo chamber, rename yourself to Vox.com. I'll know better than to comment then and offer questions.

Scares me? If the prospect of a Balkan-style ethnic civil war doesn't scare you, your intelligence is a fraud and you're a thrice damned fool. I've already conceded that at this point, the origins of the issue are probably irrelevant; things are about to go agley in a truly spectacular way. The only question is how badly.

"It is, has always been, and will always be a racial issue. Because people are not all equal, they are not all the same, and they are genetically distinct."

So the Preamble to the Declaration of Independence is false?

Blogger Laramie Hirsch August 12, 2016 10:14 PM  

@95

Western Civilization is the result of a thousand years of Christendom, which began its degradation with the looting of churches in the 1500s.

Religion is not a part of culture. It is the shaper of culture. You, yourself, contradict your statement when you say: "Culture is a people's natural response to their environment."

...Dude, the way a people respond to their environment is based on their religious beliefs. A people's natural response to their environment IS their religion in practice.

Anonymous Frankenstein McBadperson August 12, 2016 10:16 PM  

"Checkmate, racist."

You don't know what either of those words actually means. I have a strong doubt you've ever said "checkmate" legitimately in your life, or what the original Persian word means.

"The major problem with non-white immigrants is how they vote: for bigger government and socialism."

True, but let's be serious about this, instead of ideological; we live in a country the size of an entire continent, with major river systems and 300+ million people. There's no way we can have small government, unless we reverted to very extreme federalism, and very extreme states' rights. It's what I'd prefer, but I don't predict it happening any time soon, on a practical realistic level. Instead of small government (which I believe is a pipe-dream) we should be arguing for SANE government (which, though probably unlikely, is at least achievable.)

And burn all your damn Ayn Rand books. That idiot was, on planet Earth, out of her f!cking mind.

Anonymous Frankenstein McBadperson August 12, 2016 10:20 PM  

"So the Preamble to the Declaration of Independence is false?"

The preamble to the DoI is a political, Lockean argument, not an ontological one. It is also a declaration of war. And it is not law. Charming and cool, and very good rhetoric, but not law.

Like Casey Stengel used to say, You could look it up.

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Blogger EscapeVelocity August 12, 2016 10:23 PM  

Ive always lived around heavily black populated general areas, American South.

90%+ white areas would be like heaven.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 12, 2016 10:24 PM  

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Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 12, 2016 10:27 PM  

okay, I haven't even been drinking.

Damn

Toastrider wrote:"It is, has always been, and will always be a racial issue. Because people are not all equal, they are not all the same, and they are genetically distinct."

So the Preamble to the Declaration of Independence is false?


Yes
See, was that so hard? It's a manifesto, not scripture.

I could elaborate but it would be wasted on you.

Blogger EscapeVelocity August 12, 2016 10:29 PM  

Frankensteing McBadPerson is absolutely right, about small govt. That isnt gonna happen anytime soon.

The people that wont vote for Trump, because he's a big govt social liberal are fools.

Trump is the only viable candidte that can put the kebash on immigration and change to a sane foreign policy, whilst working on basic Hamiltonian industrial policy.

The basics first.

Blogger The Other Robot August 12, 2016 10:30 PM  

Meanwhile, the CDC estimates that 25% of Puerto Ricans are infected with Zica ... and that it will hit the East Coast soon.

Wonder what that will do?

Blogger Sam Lively August 12, 2016 10:31 PM  

@87

Grew up in Portland, spent a summer in France, a winter in England, a week in Germany, 4 days in Kenya and have been all over the continental US. SoCal is pretty hard to beat.

Anonymous Garrulus August 12, 2016 10:33 PM  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtIi8QR5Mzs

Joe biden sums it up well here. It's a good thing there will be a white minority in usa, it's our strength. (?)

Blogger rumpole5 August 12, 2016 10:35 PM  

"Uglier people" : The point is valid, but you left out slovenly dress and hygiene, tattoos, piercings, obesity, higher average age of the population, and the like. These factors are acting on the white population as well as the colored.

Blogger Stan Hai August 12, 2016 10:46 PM  

@99 "Western Civilization is the result of a thousand years of Christendom"

Western Civilization began with the Greeks and the Romans, who started out pagans.

"Religion is not a part of culture."

cul|ture[ˈkʌltʃə ]NOUN
1. the arts and other manifestations of human intellectual achievement regarded collectively.

2.the ideas, customs, and social behaviour of a particular people or society

Religion being both an intellectual achievement and a set of ideas, customs and behavior, fully qualifies as culture.

"Dude," "You, yourself contradict your statement."

Gamma tells. I know, because I used to be one.

Anonymous BGKB August 12, 2016 10:55 PM  

Meanwhile, the CDC estimates that 25% of Puerto Ricans are infected with Zica ... and that it will hit the East Coast soon.

The small headed babies will cost taxpayers more than their birth weight in gold every year they live.

I'm mad as Hell about this too. We need to do something about this. You want to buy some hand grenades? I know a great place

That's ok its not hard to make thermite and hemlock practically grows on trees.

Anonymous Mr. Rational August 12, 2016 11:06 PM  

Unknown wrote:Skin color is the uniform in the Alt-Right's war. This is how the public will end up perceiving it, and this is just fine for racists.
Who came up with "My skin is my receipt"?  It wasn't the alt-right; it was almost certainly a (((social justice warrior))).

Blogger Billy August 12, 2016 11:08 PM  

Do British blacks have the same issues that American blacks do?
Yes they do. And the same in Haiti, Canada, France, Africa etc. it's almost as if race matters and isn't a social construct.

Blogger Were-Puppy August 12, 2016 11:09 PM  

@99 Laramie Hirsch

Western Civilization is the result of a thousand years of Christendom, which began its degradation with the looting of churches in the 1500s.
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Nope. It goes way back before that to the Greek civilizations.

Blogger Were-Puppy August 12, 2016 11:13 PM  

@113 Stan Hai
@99 "Western Civilization is the result of a thousand years of Christendom"

Western Civilization began with the Greeks and the Romans, who started out pagans.
---

Thanks. How can someone not know this? I'm baffled.

Blogger Laramie Hirsch August 12, 2016 11:20 PM  

@113

No. Greek and Roman culture self-destructed themselves. They did not continue on. When Europe was rebuilding itself, shortly after the Arian Heresy, it was a civilization linked with the common bond of Christendom. The customs, leftovers, and remnants of pagan Rome were retooled and retrofitted onto the new paradigm.

Though it appears that Christendom was pulverized by Protestantism first, and later Atheism, a solid core of the faithful remain and will outlast whatever secular problems the West brings upon itself.

Anonymous andon August 12, 2016 11:34 PM  

70. Blogger Laramie Hirsch August 12, 2016 7:20 PM

Our national ethnic identity was ruined the day men on our continent bought African slaves from Dutch Jews. Only the Catholic Church can get us through the storm to come.


the catholic church is today's dutch jew

Blogger VFM #7634 August 12, 2016 11:39 PM  

the catholic church is today's dutch jew

The Catholic Faith, then.

It's really weird how there even is a faith that isn't actually practiced, or even liked, by its own supposed church. Instead, the church has gone nuts with the whole SJW Vatican II crap.

It's like the soul has separated from the body, and the body has turned into some zombie.

Blogger Laramie Hirsch August 12, 2016 11:43 PM  

@120

The temporal Church, run by possibly-anti-pope Francis? Yes. The behavior is definitely akin to the Dutch Jews selling the world slavery--against its own interests. I'm talking about the radical push for globalism, of course. But other things as well.

But the Catholic Church extends through Purgatory and into Heaven, and many laity and clergy today will likely not make it to those latter two. The part of the body of the Church that lies in the land of the living--Church Militant--is fraught with problems. Corruption ascends to the highest levels.

Soon, however, God will correct these errors Himself, and the ship will be righted once more. After that terrifying day, people will look back upon race arguments as petty, and a waste of time.

Blogger Feather Blade August 12, 2016 11:43 PM  

Toastrider wrote:If the prospect of a Balkan-style ethnic civil war doesn't scare you, your intelligence is a fraud and you're a thrice damned fool.

Hate to tell you this Toast, but if the US goes down in Balkanized flames, there's an ocean between there and Vox.

Blogger Laramie Hirsch August 12, 2016 11:44 PM  

@121

"It's like the soul has separated from the body, and the body has turned into some zombie."

Exactly. But a Correction is coming.

Anonymous Trevor163 August 12, 2016 11:44 PM  

Here's my prediction

1. Trump loses, and in a fairly large way and Dems take Senate but GOP keeps smaller majority in House.

2. It leaves no room to claim he lost because "rigged"

3. There is no uprising

4. There is no revolt

5. Immigrants continue to assimilate as always

6. Clinton puts 3 or 4 justices on the court in 4 years (Scalia, Bryer, Kennedy and Ginsburg

7. Clinton serves two terms as the GOP recovers from their folly with incompetence

8. The court swings to a more balanced approach to protecting individual rights v corporate rights.

9. There is no uprising

10. GOP wins in 2024

Anonymous Trevor163 August 12, 2016 11:49 PM  

"So the Preamble to the Declaration of Independence is false?"

Of course it was false. All you have to do is read the "three-fifths" clause to know that.

However, it's become more and more true as we've advanced.

Blogger The Other Robot August 12, 2016 11:49 PM  

@125: I guess you are with DH then.

Funny thing is the difference in attendance between Trump rallies and Clinton rallies, or are you betting that the Dems will replace Hillary?

Or, maybe you are betting a a Weekend at Bernie's.

Anonymous Trevor163 August 12, 2016 11:57 PM  

"Funny thing is the difference in attendance between Trump rallies and Clinton rallies, or are you betting that the Dems will replace Hillary?"

This is pretty simple. Trump has a much smaller, but more fervent, base. Same with Bernie.

Blogger VFM #7634 August 12, 2016 11:58 PM  

@125 Trevor163

Are you actually that retarded?

Anonymous Trevor163 August 13, 2016 12:03 AM  

@125 VFM #7634

How's your methadone treatment coming?

Blogger VFM #7634 August 13, 2016 12:09 AM  

@130 Trevor163

Ah, I see. You're on something. Figures.

You know, you really shouldn't make political statements while in that condition. Just makes you come off as a total faggot.

Anonymous Trevor163 August 13, 2016 12:12 AM  

"You know, you really shouldn't make political statements while in that condition. Just makes you come off as a total faggot."

Two things are funny about this statement. 1) You think "faggot" is an insult. 2) You pretending you have any kind of reasonable objection to any of my predictions.

I'm happy to discuss it all with you, but if you continue to say nothing, well, there's nothing to say.

Blogger Unknown August 13, 2016 12:26 AM  

Skin color has been the uniform in the Left's war...

No. Skin color has been ammunition and camouflage, in the Left's war. And there are plenty of non-white racists in its ranks. The American Left's uniform began as white but lost it's color a long time ago when it was repeatedly washed with deviancy. The cycle began before 1776.

The Alt-Right have invented a new kind of white that's no less prone to deviancy but more resistant to coloration.

Blogger praetorian August 13, 2016 12:29 AM  

And burn all your damn Ayn Rand books. That (((idiot))) was, on planet Earth, out of her f!cking mind.

I agree entirely, but then... "I'm white. Doing better than ever actually. Thanks."

Very Randian of you.

10. GOP wins in 2024

My sides...

Blogger residentMoron August 13, 2016 12:37 AM  

So the Preamble to the Declaration of Independence is false?

Yes.

No, but it doesn't say "all men are created equal in all things and in every possible respect."

It does go on to explain in exactly what manner all men are equal:

"endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights."

... and it continues to delineate those rights so endowed.

It does help if people read. Those who refuse to cannot be helped.

Blogger Leo Little Book in Shenzhen August 13, 2016 12:37 AM  

If Anglos decide to miscegenate into mud I'm sure they will keep the Catholic Church's kind offer in mind. Can't have illiterates reading for themselves.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 13, 2016 12:46 AM  

Trevor163 wrote:Two things are funny about this statement. 1) You think "faggot" is an insult.

It is, faggot.

2) You pretending you have any kind of reasonable objection to any of my predictions.

How about this, you have no fucking idea what's happening,and you're so wedded to your ideas of despair and capitulation that you would lick the Kommandant's ass AFTER the GIs arrived.

Anonymous Trevor163 August 13, 2016 1:01 AM  

Snidely,

I'm so thoroughly more informed on these matters than you that I don't need to attempt to insult you in order to feel better about myself.

There will be no uprising. There will be no rigged election.

Clinton will clobber Trump with between 340 and 34y electoral votes.

Ginsburg will announce her retirement between December and February. Bryer has said he doesn't want to serve til death and Kennedy is 80.

There will be no uprising.

Blogger Bosefus August 13, 2016 1:27 AM  

You can't use the car if you don't work a lick...take it up with the UN.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWbXCz9UZYo

Blogger Bosefus August 13, 2016 1:29 AM  

Vox is good!

Blogger Laramie Hirsch August 13, 2016 1:30 AM  

@136

Typical short-sighted view from a dim mind.

Blogger Bosefus August 13, 2016 1:35 AM  

And she was beside me... she's comming in here... the snake....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbAAnGi5lcY

Blogger Bosefus August 13, 2016 1:44 AM  

Alpha made me do it... take a little ride:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPDixDqAUh0

Blogger Bosefus August 13, 2016 1:53 AM  

For what it's worth...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZDZP1o4L0g

Blogger M Cephas August 13, 2016 1:56 AM  

Don't forget a lot of immigrants send money back to their native countries. Instead of using that money to support local businesses, they send it back to their foreign relatives.

I believe Mexican immigrants alone send $20 billion a year back to Mexico.

Blogger Bosefus August 13, 2016 1:56 AM  

I wish a buck was still silver...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv61zBZacpo

Blogger Bosefus August 13, 2016 2:01 AM  

What ever... blow blow you ol hot wind...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8sh9P3X33w

Anonymous Yay Trump August 13, 2016 2:06 AM  

@138
What makes you think Clinton can make it eight years? I'm doubting she can manage four at this point.

Blogger Bosefus August 13, 2016 2:06 AM  

My Daddy liked trouble...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_s-Qk07KxA

Anonymous Hapax Legomenon August 13, 2016 2:09 AM  

I think I finally got Trump figured out. He really wants to be mayor of NYC. Either consciously and literally (after failure in November) or unconsciously, becoming the "NYC mayor" of America. I think that explains his apparent authoritarian leanings, which are more after the style of a LaGuardia, Bloomberg or DeBlasio (regardless of party affiliation, only nominal in this context) than anyone else.

Blogger Bosefus August 13, 2016 2:11 AM  

I pulled the head off Elvis, and filled Fred up to his pelvis...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jc08gY8wfVc

Blogger Austin Ballast August 13, 2016 2:16 AM  

So Hillary wins massively because many places vote completely for her with 0 votes for Trump? Kind of like precincts in MA without a single vote for previous governor Romney?

That would not go unnoticed, though I wouldn't put the fraud attempt past the Democrats.

But it would be a great affirmation to even more people that the political system is completely and totally corrupt.

Vote for the one willing to sell your country for foundation "contributions". That sounds like a winning slogan, right?

Anonymous GreyS August 13, 2016 2:21 AM  

Here are some musicians who are anti-white making an anti-white record:

http://www.pledgemusic.com/projects/mysongismyweapon

Funny-- One of the musicians is half-white, the rest are white. They then get non-white people to support the movement and appear on camera.

Blogger Bosefus August 13, 2016 2:26 AM  

I pulled the head off Elvis, and filled Fred up to his pelvis...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jc08gY8wfVc

Blogger Bosefus August 13, 2016 2:27 AM  

Walk like an ... an...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv6tuzHUuuk

Blogger Bosefus August 13, 2016 2:29 AM  

Seemed like the real thing...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGU_4-5RaxU

Blogger Bosefus August 13, 2016 2:42 AM  

Put up or shut up...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1uioCkdhzM

Blogger American Spartan August 13, 2016 2:51 AM  

A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents wrote:@79, it's not the alt-Right that's chasing black people out of Compton, California. It's Los Surenos, who are not "white" in any way.

Blaming "whitey" isn't gonna work anymore.


And the left is slowly understanding that and growing afraid....

Blogger Bosefus August 13, 2016 2:57 AM  

I still don't seem to care...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2NnoSeVWIU

Anonymous Rolf August 13, 2016 3:05 AM  

Just got back from a trip to the Oregon coast. Part way back I noticed something: many more Bernie Sanders bumper stickers than Hillary or Trump. In a parking lot in OR I did see a "Hillery for Prison 2016" that had been vandalized. But only a single actively pro-Hillary sticker going on a 500+mile round trip in western WA/OR, which is largely a hive of left-wing moon-battery.

Now this is only anecdotal data, but in any other major election year I'd expect to see a LOT of lefty stickers for the final candidate driving down the left coast. I know why I don't see a lot of Trump stickers - they get your car vandalized and your job lost if your boss sees it. But no Hillary stickers? That makes me think there is a huge ground-swell of apathy for her. If many of the Bernie Bros stay home or switch teams because they feel sold out... It might be EPIC.

Anonymous Eric the Red August 13, 2016 3:33 AM  

re Trevor63..

This paid troll is simply parroting the latest strategy from his Soros handlers: taunt their enemies as inconsequential, powerless, and doomed to failure. Completely ignore the increasing uprisings of the alt-right and nationalists all over the world, including massive Trump support, Duterte, LePen, Brexit, Catalonia, Austria, etc. etc. etc.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36681475

The more smug and insouciant they sound, the more the left is running scared.

Blogger American Spartan August 13, 2016 4:11 AM  

Trevor163 wrote:Here's my prediction

1. Trump loses, and in a fairly large way and Dems take Senate but GOP keeps smaller majority in House.

2. It leaves no room to claim he lost because "rigged"

3. There is no uprising

4. There is no revolt

5. Immigrants continue to assimilate as always

6. Clinton puts 3 or 4 justices on the court in 4 years (Scalia, Bryer, Kennedy and (((((Ginsburg)))))

7. Clinton serves two terms as the GOP recovers from their folly with incompetence

8. The court swings to a more balanced approach to protecting individual rights v corporate rights.

9. There is no uprising

10. GOP wins in 2024


Trevor, you are a fool and if we do not win and limit immigration now their is no future victory in elections as we will be swamped with more then enough people to insure we never win again....

Anonymous Takin' a Look August 13, 2016 4:15 AM  

@ Eric the Red

Yes, without the White Left and their fifth column Cucks vis a vis the Right; even all the perfidy of the (((hello, fellow white people))) could not have made inroads into the countries and cultures of the White nations.

Anonymous Shut up rabbit August 13, 2016 4:23 AM  

Trevor163 wrote:5. Immigrants continue to assimilate as always

And there is your problem - the assimilation is an utter failure so continuing it "as always" is an absolutely preposterous idea.

Oh, and btw "faggot" is an insult, just because you assume it doesn't make you look any less ridiculous in the eyes of everybody watching (even your intended audience [your boyfriend watching over your soldiers as you type] would prefer it is you weren't such a total faggot.)

Blogger Leo Little Book in Shenzhen August 13, 2016 4:25 AM  

I think we should defer to Trevor's expertise. After all, this is his job.

Who else but a reprobate understands hopelessness?

Anonymous Shut up rabbit August 13, 2016 4:26 AM  

Shoulders! curse the autocorrect!

Anonymous Fnord Prefect August 13, 2016 4:36 AM  

You forgot my personal bugbear - increased communicable diseases, including those we had eradicated from western europe and the new ones they are inexplicably importing (bringing in Ebola patients for treatment in major cities? What kind of degenerate came up with that idea?)

At a child's birthday party recently I overheard a muslim child crying to the host because he couldn't find the "water bowl" in the toilet to wash his backside. She had to explain to a seven year old the concept of toilet paper.

I found this shocking not just because it means his parents have deliberately chosen to be unhygienic and dirty when a toilet is a permanent option (they live in brand new social housing) but because it means that the schools must also pander to this cultural barbarism. Oh, and these are muslims that have resisted assimilation into the host culture for generations, not part of the recent waves of rapefugees.

Blogger IreneAthena August 13, 2016 6:08 AM  

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Anonymous argos August 13, 2016 6:19 AM  

pyrrhus wrote:"Culture matters, indeed culture is dispositive, but culture is a function of decisions made by the individual and their forebears."

Current research suggests that all behavior is at least 50% heritable, while intelligence is more like 70%....That's where your culture comes from...


70% heritable where?

100% heritability in the Congo does not mean the same as total heritability in Norway.

Anonymous argos August 13, 2016 6:24 AM  

Trevor163 wrote:
5. Immigrants continue to assimilate as always

I was open to taking Trevor's comments seriously til coming across that.

'tards gonna tard.

Blogger Laramie Hirsch August 13, 2016 6:28 AM  

This post states that there are 170 comments. But I can only count down to 156 comments right now. Is something wrong with blogger tonight?

Anonymous Frankenstein McBadperson August 13, 2016 6:31 AM  

"does not mean the same as total heritability in Norway."

The way the Norwegians are behaving these days with respect to immigration, flushing their culture and their genetic heritage down the toilet with staggering speed, I'm not so sure.

Blogger IreneAthena August 13, 2016 6:34 AM  

That little boy wanted to be clean. "Water bowl" may sound like a bowl full of the same water that everyone else has used to wash in, but it isn't. The little boy WANTED to be clean and he was looking for the utensil (called a "lota") he was accustomed to using at home to get clean, cleaner than he would've gotten with toilet paper.

Blogger IreneAthena August 13, 2016 6:39 AM  

Laramie, there were about a dozen spam comments, now deleted. The 170 count is an artifact.

Blogger Laramie Hirsch August 13, 2016 6:52 AM  

@160

I see. Thanks. Good to know.

Anonymous Takin' a Look August 13, 2016 7:14 AM  

@ IreneAthena

So why do they always smell so rank? Is it the food? Do they not shower or bathe daily?

Blogger IreneAthena August 13, 2016 7:24 AM  

Well, Takin' a Look. I don't know why the Muslims you know do not smell nice.

If they are faithful, Muslims are actually bathing, not just once, but MANY times a day.

Blogger Johnny August 13, 2016 7:51 AM  

Takin' a Look wrote:@ IreneAthena

So why do they always smell so rank? Is it the food? Do they not shower or bathe daily?


Could be frequency of washing, use of deodorant stuff, but what you eat can also effect how you smell. That will be more noticeable to somebody with different dietary habits.

Anonymous Trevor163 August 13, 2016 8:23 AM  

"Trevor, you are a fool and if we do not win and limit immigration now their is no future victory in elections as we will be swamped with more then enough people to insure we never win again..."

I don't think any of what I wrote is foolish.

It's not preposterous to think Hillary will win 340 EV. All you have to do is look at the polls and their trajectory.

As for judges, no matter who wins, 4 judges are absolutely going to be replaced in the next 8 years and at the very least three in the next term.

Finally, I don't see any inkling of American nationalists or "alt righters" rising up. It's never been the rights MO to do such a thing here.

There's nothing foolish about these predictions.

Blogger The Other Robot August 13, 2016 8:26 AM  

This is pretty simple. Trump has a much smaller, but more fervent, base. Same with Bernie.

Damn. I knew there was an explanation.

So, the same fervent 10,000 people follow Trump around the country then. When Trump goes to Altoona, PA, those 10,000 show up, and when Trump goes to Kissimmee, FL, those 10,000 follow him and show, and when he goes to San Jose, CA, yup, you guessed it, those same 10,000 people fly to San Jose and attend his rally.

Get back to us when you stop sucking Soros' cock.

Anonymous Trevor163 August 13, 2016 9:00 AM  

"So, the same fervent 10,000 people follow Trump around the country then..."

No. The same kind of fervent folks come out for Trump as he travels about.

You think the polls are rigged. They aren't. You think Trump is winning in all those places the polls say he is behind by 4,6, 8 and 10 points. He's not. You can see in his rallies that he has a fairly stable base of older white guys, who are going to vote for him with passion as they pull the lever. Unfortunately, that base, while fervent, isn't big or broad enough and the polls demonstrate that.

Now, when you take your lips off of Trumps dick, we can talk.

Blogger The Other Robot August 13, 2016 9:08 AM  

@Trevor163

When you get a clue you will understand how the polls can easily be rigged.

Go away troll. We know your type and its name is cucksucker.

Anonymous BGKB August 13, 2016 9:46 AM  

If they are faithful, Muslims are actually bathing, not just once, but MANY times a day.

A man who beats his wife is not a moslem that's a fact. Isn't' it just wetting their feet? Moslem nurses in the UK fought so that they didn't have to wash their hands.
http://www.eutimes.net/2010/04/uk-allows-muslim-nurses-to-not-wash-to-protect-their-modesty/

audience [your boyfriend watching over your soldiers as you type] would prefer it is you weren't such a total faggot.)

I hate it when my BF acts like a total faggot in public

Anonymous Takin' a Look August 13, 2016 10:03 AM  

Well each race has their own distinct smells. Blacks have musty piss odor, Arabs a horseshit funk, Jews have sour milk and rotten eggs(gag) and orientals very little but any deep whiff and it is PUNGENT and earthy. From what I understand, whites have a wet dog and vinegar smell and I can perceive a bit of that on myself after a hard day in the sun. Don't even get me on the subcontinentals....oh.my.god.

Blogger praetorian August 13, 2016 10:40 AM  

"There will be no invasion, no using of force against or among the people anywhere."

--Abraham Lincoln, Monday, March 4, 1861

Anonymous Thea August 13, 2016 10:43 AM  

A Hillary victory will actually speed the process of dissolution up.

Particularly if be rigged voting machines.

Anonymous Eduardo August 13, 2016 11:43 AM  

Chiken Sweep

Being a not-ruling-anything brazilian middle class guy, your assesment of the the demographics of the country is... Off.

Is there a ruling class? Well yeah, is just like any other ruling class in democratic countries, some people just find a way to game the system and other people find a way to control people.

Is there a huge amount of poor? Yep! Double Yep! Funny thing is that the poorest people are immigrants, internal immigrants.

First world? No, of course not. Is just a well evolved third world country full of leftists destroying what is left one election cycle at a time.

Shit-hole? If you are a poor person in imploded family, in a horrible neighborhood in peripheral area; YES! It is horrible. If not... Nope, far away from a shit hole. Is far and far away from being anything a Western European or North-American-that-is-not-Mexico is used to, but it is not close to be as bad as people conceive.

Why? Well because people from one country rarely know the other country minimally well.

Anonymous Eduardo August 13, 2016 11:52 AM  

Chicken sweep

Actually the rich go from roof to roof in choppers mostly here in the city I live, São Paulo. Why they do it? Kidnaps? Lol come on, you probably rea about Ciudad del Mejico and thought you were reading about Brazil. They because this city has the worst traffic jams ever!!!! There was a point where they were worried that there would be the ultimate Jam and no car would be able to move.

Anonymous Bobby Farr August 13, 2016 12:12 PM  

Don't the toilets in Muslim countries usually have a hose, sort of like a poor man's Japanese washlet? I was skeptical since it would be one way in which they aren't completely barbarous but that is what I've read.

Blogger darkdoc August 13, 2016 12:13 PM  

Whether or not being called a faggot is an insult is in the eye of the beholder. Fine.


But that argument ignores that being called a faggot is stating simply that you are cursed.

Anonymous Avalanche August 13, 2016 12:43 PM  

@27 "They come from a sub-culture whose explicit aim was to be as English as possible while being black."

And his children? Grandchildren? The regression to the mean? The effect of their friends and schoolmates and the (lack of) civilization around them? We've got a few generations of proof going on in the U.S. with Messicans (no offense to our host), whose forebears DID want to come, work, keep their heads down, and thrive. Their grandkids are now attacking whites at Trump rallies! (Genes will always OUT!)

I think it's Steve Sailor who points out that Yang Ming -- the 7'+ Chinese b-ball player (the total outlier!!) should absolutely NOT be sufficient cause to let you feel that therefore importing boatloads of Chinese to play b-ball going forward is any kind of good idea!

Blogger praetorian August 13, 2016 1:14 PM  

A Hillary victory will actually speed the process of dissolution up.

Yep.

Because it's a no-win situation, it's a no-lose situation.

Blogger szopen August 13, 2016 3:34 PM  

The sense of community arises, in part, from the sense of having something in common. Common culture, language, faith, or just looking the same. There is nothing wrong in wanting people around to "look just like you".

AS for the culture vs race: I think there are many possible cultures which could be created by any race, but not infinetely many; a range of cultures (with some commonalities) for Slavics, range of cultures for Anglos etc. However, each culture shapes a race, and Slavic people of today are not the same Slavs from even hundred year ago. It's definetely theoretically possible that if you would get a bunch of Blacks straight outta ghetto, put them into 1950-like culture, and not allow them to change that culture, then within mere 40 generations (500 years or so) the resulting population would be almost the same as any white population.

The problem is, of course, with the requirement of "not changing the culture" - that's why this is and will be purely theoretical possibility.

Anonymous BGKB August 13, 2016 4:07 PM  

Don't the toilets in Muslim countries usually have a hose, sort of like a poor man's Japanese washlet?

They have a combination toilet hole on the floor for squatting and shower

First world? No, of course not. Is just a well evolved third world country full of leftists destroying what is left one election cycle at a time.

A former AID worker wrote a book "The Crisis Caravan" that totally deconstructs foreign charity aid. Every 3rd world nation as at least one 5star hotel for the workers to spend the charity money. Less than 10% of the charity money that makes it into a 3rd world nation actually gets used for charity.

Blogger IreneAthena August 13, 2016 4:24 PM  

The person who made the claim that Islamic ritual cleansing only involves washing the feet was also wrong about the claim that Muslim nurses in the UK don't have to wash their hands. That rumor is all over white identity websites.

Here is what the guidlines for workwear for NHS employees actually state, on page 13: Exposure of the forearms is not acceptable to some staff because of their Islamic faith. In response to these and other concerns, the MSCP convened a group including Islamic scholars...Disposable over-sleeves, elasticated at the elbow and wrist, may be used but must be put on and discarded in exactly the same way as disposable gloves. Strict procedures for washing hands and wrists must still be observed."

webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20130107105354/http://www.dh.gov.uk/prod_consum_dh/groups/dh_digitalassets/@dh/@en/@ps/documents/digitalasset/dh_114754.pdf

Whipping up ignorance-based hatred toward all Muslims isn't the way to find solutions. Not if [T]he increased likelihood of war and ethnic cleansing is truly an undesirable outcome, anyway.

Anonymous Fnord Prefect August 13, 2016 4:43 PM  

IreneAthena wrote:cleaner than he would've gotten with toilet paper.

Sure, then he could have chugged down some camel urine and be in perfect health.

The diseases spread by barbaric toilet habits are one of the greatest killers in the third world. Sharing fecal contaminated water/sponge or whatever as you wipe your arse with your hand IS NOT hygienic - this is some of the most degenerate cultural equivalency I've come across. What next? How spitting is healthy?

I live in town that had to build a UN vaccination center to try and vaccinate the immigrants from disease that were eradicated generations ago in the indigenous people. Many are enterotoxins spread by fecal contamination due to unhygienic habits. my children have to go to school with these unclean vectors.

I think cultural equivocators are the worst kind of degenerates - they literally want you to eat other people's shit to prove that you're not racisss...bare your tapeworm with pride!

Anonymous Avalanche August 13, 2016 4:57 PM  

@69 "if any country is responsible for normalizing, ubiquitizing hardcore XXX porn it is the United States of America."

You mean the Jewnited States of America. Porn was just one more tool on their arsenal to destroy white America!

See this:
http://i61.tinypic.com/x1gbko.jpg
Or this:
http://www.jewishquarterly.org/issuearchive/articled325.html?articleid=38

And here's the list of names:
http://www.henrymakow.com/jews_and_porn.html

Finally: did you know?
http://heebmagazine.com/porn-watchers-guide-hottest-jewish-women/47654

Blogger Thucydides August 13, 2016 5:10 PM  

The biggest problem for the reconstituted United States will be reclaiming the coasts, since control of the sea has always been paramount for American security and strength.

Alinsky was correct in suggesting that 25 million Americans would have to be killed to usher in the Revolution, I just don't think he realized which 25 million it's got to be.

Anonymous SciVo August 13, 2016 5:11 PM  

Trevor163 wrote:Here's my prediction

It's a classic SJW mistake to base predictions on feelings instead of facts.

8. The court swings to a more balanced approach to protecting individual rights v corporate rights.

Up to that point, I thought you were just a naively optimistic progressive. Now I know you're either crazy or lying, since any judges appointed by Crony Socialist Hillary would utterly crush any remaining individual rights in favor of her bipartite passions, Big Business and Big Government.

Anonymous Pennywise August 13, 2016 7:35 PM  

Yes, some white people believe in a whites only approach to solve the myriad of problems besetting America. But given how much intra-conflict there is within the white community, to think that somehow that when the SHTF, there will be an all-out war in which their fellow whites, and their non-white brethren, will be outright moved by forced or killed, including infants and toddlers, is from my point of view presumptuous.

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