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Saturday, August 20, 2016

The implacable enemy

Max Read, the former Gawker editor, admits that #GamerGate was the much-hated organization's most effective enemy in New York Magazine:
If you can mobilize and engage even a fairly small number of people, you can create an impression of enough outrage to destabilize a business. As Gawker was imploding in the summer of 2015, a group of teenage ­video-game enthusiasts was throwing gasoline on the already-raging fire. These were the Gamergaters.

Of all the enemies Gawker had made over the years — in New York media, in Silicon Valley, in Hollywood — none were more effective than the Gamergaters. Gamergate, a leaderless online movement dedicated to enforcing its own unique vision of “ethics in journalism,” had first taken up with Gawker Media the summer before, in 2014. Earlier that year, a writer for Kotaku had had a brief fling with a well-known video-game developer. In August, the developer’s ex-boyfriend, a 24-year-old computer programmer, wrote a 10,000-word blog post about her, spawning rumors that she’d traded sex for a positive review of her game on Kotaku. That no such review ever actually appeared on the site should tell you a lot about Gamergate’s relationship to the truth; that Gamergaters believe this is how sex works should tell you a lot about the Gamergate demographic. But none of the specifics of the story really mattered, because ultimately Kotaku was being targeted less for specific ethical violations than for its critical coverage of the portrayal of women and minorities in video games and the sexism of the gaming community. The teenagers behind Gamergate were young, obsessive, deeply resentful of women, and had no sense of social boundaries, and now they finally had a rallying cry —“Ethics in journalism!” — and a common enemy — or, really, enemies, among them the developer in question, Zoe Quinn, and feminist media critic Anita Sarkeesian, who became the object of both sustained harassment and violent threats.

That fall, Gamergate began waging a hugely annoying, and sometimes genuinely menacing, war against Kotaku. I personally came to the attention of Gamergate in October 2014, not for a fearless act of journalism, but because I was messing around on Twitter and I stepped in it. Sam Biddle, one of Gawker’s best and most notoriously aggressive writers, had tweeted that the lesson of Gamergate was that nerds should be bullied into submission; this in turn led to a flood of tweets and emails to me demanding that he be disciplined; I responded in a mode that seemed appropriate: I goaded and dismissed and largely treated the people complaining with a great deal of contempt and flippancy.

In retrospect: This was extremely stupid. Even in 2014, Twitter had already become a mechanism by which indiscreet people lost their jobs. Still, it was very difficult for me to believe that anyone genuinely thought that “pro-bullying” is a stance that anyone has ever adopted, or that Sam Biddle’s tweet was a statement in support of bullying. But what I believed, or didn’t believe, didn’t matter. I wasn’t messing around with irony-fluent trolls but with teenagers and college students who seemed unable or unwilling to understand context or sarcasm — exactly the kind of people who might actually believe that Sam Biddle would get a raise for bullying gamers (a myth that still floats around the various Gamergate communities).

More problematically, it would turn out, I was also, unconsciously, messing with the only group even less able to grapple with irony or context: brands. What I’d missed about Gamergate was that they were gamers — they had spent years developing a tolerance for highly repetitive tasks. Like, say, contacting major advertisers.

On Reddit, a campaign was launched to contact every advertiser Gamergaters could find on Gawker’s site — and not just the marketing departments of advertisers like Adobe and BMW, but specific executives. If you can bug a chief marketing officer, it doesn’t matter that your complaints are disingenuous: He just wants to stop being annoyed.

And so Gawker went into full-on crisis mode. Our chief revenue officer flew to Chicago to meet shaky clients; someone I hadn’t spoken with since high school Facebook-messaged me to let me know that her employer, L.L.Bean, a Gawker advertiser, was considering pulling its ads. Nick asked me to draft a non-apology apology — a clarification, basically, that we did not, institutionally, support bullying. Sam was compelled to tweet an apology. Joel, then the executive editor, published on Gawker, over the objections of the editors, another clarification. I then published, without Joel’s knowledge, an apology for the apology. Perhaps tellingly, it was the first time I’d ever really been confronted with the business side of Gawker besides small talk at parties.

Then it all went away. Gawker had taken a hit — thousands of dollars of advertising gone, at least. But in the weeks we’d been hemorrhaging advertisers and goodwill, stories in the New York Times and other outlets — the real media—and a segment on The Colbert Report made it clear that the Gamergaters were the bad guys in this case, not us. The sites went back to normal.

But of course it didn’t go away. Gamergate proved the power of well-organized reactionaries to threaten Gawker’s well-being. And when Gawker really went too far — far enough that even our regular defenders in the media wouldn’t step up to speak for us — Gamergate was there, in the background, turning every crisis up a notch or two and making continued existence impossible.
A lot of his characterizations of GG are complete nonsense; many of us were not teenagers, just to give one example. And Literally Who was literally bonking several game journalists, whether or not a review of it appeared on Kotaku. The corruption about which GG was complaining was, and is, absolutely real and the ongoing fallout from consequences of that corruption continues today.

But #GamerGate provided the model for the Rabid Puppies and for a new generation of right-wing cultural activists, from which we can learn several important lessons. If the #AltRight is to be successful, it must learn from the example set by #GamerGate.

And what is the single most salient aspect of GG? Persistence. This is the key phrase: "a tolerance for highly repetitive tasks". Conservatives tend to fail because they are always looking for the one big engagement that will settle the matter once and for all. They have no stamina. They have no taste for ongoing struggle, continuous conflict, or systemic revolution. They are ill-suited for cultural 4GW.

That's also what sets the Evil Legion of Evil and the Dread Ilk apart. For us, life is not struggle, struggle is life. We are not drained by conflict, we are energized by it. We crave victories, both small and large, and one merely gives us the taste for more and inspires us to go in search of the next. We are always winning because the game never ends and there is no clock to run out and save our enemies from us. And we know that levelling up only means the next enemy will be harder.

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72 Comments:

Blogger Skylark Thibedeau August 20, 2016 12:59 PM  

" Conservatives tend to fail because they are always looking for the one big engagement that will settle the matter once and for all. "

Conservatives always look for a Waterloo. They aren't patient enough to spend Spring and Summer along the Rappahannock steadily moving towards Richmond bleeding the enemy dry. The SJW's are in this fight long term til they get their Totalitarian State. Conservatives only believe in short term profit.

Anonymous Steve August 20, 2016 1:04 PM  

That no such review ever actually appeared on the site should tell you a lot about Gamergate’s relationship to the truth

Lol.

I remember thinking, at least 2 years before GG and before I'd even heard the term "social justice warrior", that something had gone rotten in games journalism.

It had previously been irreverent and fun, but now seemed to be dominated by absurdly self-important college grads with problem glasses who wanted to use it as a political soapbox. I'd been a gamer for three decades, and suddenly these jumped-up little twerps were telling me I was enjoying myself wrong?

And Kotaku had several articles promoting Depression Quest. Imagine my surprise when it turned out to be a shitty HyperCard stack masquerading as a "game". It's as if the music press started giving a lot of coverage to some random kid who can make fart noises with his armpit.

Anonymous Battlefrog August 20, 2016 1:05 PM  

"This is the key phrase: "a tolerance for highly repetitive tasks".

The birth of weaponized autism

Blogger kh123 August 20, 2016 1:06 PM  

"...feminist media critic Anita Sarkeesian..."

Alternative lifestyle dietician Jeffrey Dahmer.


"More problematically..."

I don't think even the Soviets or the Red Guard had as easy of a tell as to who to culturally target. Or are they just that arrogant and stupid to think that this isn't painting an historical target on their backsides.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents August 20, 2016 1:12 PM  

Positive confirmation of hits on target is always useful.

Everything else in this self-serving whine-screed, or scree-whine, is summed up in Rule 1 and 2 of SJW's.

Blogger JWM August 20, 2016 1:26 PM  

I have been thinking this for a while. Forget politics. The war needs to be waged against the media giants. Take down a major TV network. Destroy the New York and Los Angeles Times. For a start.
The left are garage band musicians with a 50,000 watt amplifier. The alt-right is still a guy on a stool with an acoustic guitar. Attack the amplifiers. They may be an armored giant. But now we've got a sling and a stone.

JWM

Blogger Skylark Thibedeau August 20, 2016 1:33 PM  

@6 You can tell neither the left nor the right are serious about Revolution or violent unrest at the present time. Reporters and Media Institutions are the first to be hit by the violence. A Revolutionary movement or a Dictatorship has to silence the voice of its opposition.

Blogger Cataline Sergius August 20, 2016 1:34 PM  

And what is the single most salient aspect of GG? Persistence. This is the key phrase: "a tolerance for highly repetitive tasks". Conservatives tend to fail because they are always looking for the one big engagement that will settle the matter once and for all. They have no stamina. They have no taste for ongoing struggle, continuous conflict, or systemic revolution.

Another thing we had going for us was a complete lack of mainstream Conservative leadership.

If the Cucks had managed to figure out how to latch on to GamerGate, not only would we have lost, we would have handily lost.

Blogger tridekka August 20, 2016 1:34 PM  

Like Vox said, all the victories are good. Make it systems vs goals and enjoy the hell out of the process of marching forward.

@6 Build your own, larger, better amp while you watch and encourage them to piss on theirs.

Blogger bob k. mando August 20, 2016 1:46 PM  

VD
For us, life is not struggle, struggle is life.



no, no, no, no, you've gotta Fash that shit up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OC73Os9NmZE

Blogger Daetrin August 20, 2016 1:50 PM  

@8 The absolute refusal to have leaders, because then it could be co-opted, was the greatest strength of Gamergate. Witness how many people spilled their spaghetti in various ways. If they had been holding the reins, GG would have ended then. There's like, what, twenty or so big-name people who were like that? And I'm including Milo here.

Blogger Happy Housewife August 20, 2016 1:51 PM  

"Perhaps tellingly, it was the first time I’d ever really been confronted with the business side of Gawker besides small talk at parties."

Where did he think his paycheck came from? Idiot.

Anonymous andon August 20, 2016 1:52 PM  

....spawning rumors that she’d traded sex for a positive review of her game on Kotaku. That no such review ever actually appeared on the site should tell you a lot about Gamergate’s relationship to the truth; that Gamergaters believe this is how sex works should tell you a lot about the Gamergate demographic

lol, how does sex work?

Anonymous Susan August 20, 2016 1:55 PM  

This frame of mind that you must all be rebellious teenagers instead of mature and thinking adults is most amusing. They just cannot fathom the idea that adults not only like these games but are the ones who are behind/supporting the entire concept of GG itself.

#8 has it in a nutshell. The cuckies would have destroyed and it completely with their mental rot. But then they are incapable like the rest of the elites of independent thinking outside the gravy train Borg collective.

You have to possess honesty, honor and a capacity for independent and creative thinking to understand GG. They just don't.

About the only thing keeping the big media afloat right now is their advertising and a gigantic attack on all that means is probably going to be the best bet. But it means getting people to totally change their buying habits before that kind of tactic will have any lasting impact.

Blogger HonorLiving August 20, 2016 1:56 PM  

Long term Vs short term means:

Institutions > News-Electoral-Business-etc cycle

Anyone who can outlive temporary cycles will end up being a part of each and everyone of them. I'm not Christian, but I notice that one of the thing which has marked the decline of Christianity and the Church seems to be their shift of time frame from the eternal to the narrowly temporal.

They appear to operate within the context of the "cause du jour", be it abortion, gay marriage, immigration, etc. Notice that the Islamic "clergy" or their religious figures seem to never do this. Individual Muslims or Muslim engaged in laymen's activities might, but the Islamic scholars, the Imams and the Muftis and so on, always have as a primary emphasis their god, their "sacred" text, the after life, and all the rest of their core beliefs.

In comparison, everything else is transient.

(I'm not Muslim. I hate Islam. But they're winning right now so we have no choice but to look at what they do.)

Blogger bob k. mando August 20, 2016 1:57 PM  

apparently, like psychology, sex is a lot more complicated than i think it is.

all you all who think Mata Hari was a great spy because she bonked half of western Europe, you're all just cray-cray and misogynist. bitch had mad James Bond skills, she could jump a motorcycle over the Eiffel Tower, empty a mag into the the Roosky villain of the week and land on the a getaway sub in the Seine.

Blogger kh123 August 20, 2016 2:02 PM  

...The best part of the article was "No, really, 'bullying nerds'? It was a joke. Can't you guys even take a joke!? Gawd..."

Weak rhetoric, and then a limp-wristed fighting retreat when punched in the face twice as hard. Overtones of McRapey.



Anonymous tublecane August 20, 2016 2:04 PM  

"that Gamergaters believe this is how sex works should tell you a lot about the Gamergate demographic"

What is he even talking about? That's not how sex works? What is it people call "the oldest profession," again?

"the only group even less able to grapple with irony or context: brands"

Huh? "Brands" (which is one of today's magical, talisman words) aren't capable of doing anything but sitting there being brands.

This guy can't write.

Excuse me I have to go grapple with some contexts.

Anonymous andon August 20, 2016 2:09 PM  

14. Anonymous Susan August 20, 2016 1:55 PM
This frame of mind that you must all be rebellious teenagers instead of mature and thinking adults is most amusing. They just cannot fathom the idea that adults not only like these games but are the ones who are behind/supporting the entire concept of GG itself.


that's what I noticed too.

The teenagers behind Gamergate were young, obsessive, deeply resentful of women, and had no sense of social boundaries...

I don't play videogames but there are too many people who do to pretend that they're all nerdy little teenage boys

Blogger ChickenChicken Sweep August 20, 2016 2:16 PM  

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Blogger Salt August 20, 2016 2:18 PM  

a group of teenage ­video-game enthusiasts

If that makes him feelz better.

Anonymous Jill August 20, 2016 2:18 PM  

I agree that struggle is life. Without struggle, one might as well be dead. But, sheesh, I wish I could have more of this energy-from-conflict you speak of. Living on caffeine, vitamins, and exercise.

Blogger ChickenChicken Sweep August 20, 2016 2:19 PM  

deeply resentful of women

"Unlike me; I'm so respectful of women I never even make eye contact. That's how sex works, right?"

Blogger Salt August 20, 2016 2:23 PM  

Max Read still wants to pick a fight. He should be obliged. Where's he work now?

Anonymous Man of the Atom August 20, 2016 2:28 PM  

Salt wrote:a group of teenage ­video-game enthusiasts

If that makes him feelz better.


Why would it make anyone feel *better*?

"I woulda got away with it, too, if it wasn't for those meddling kids and their dog!"

SJWs are cartoon villains on top of it all! Who knew?

Anonymous Anonymous August 20, 2016 2:28 PM  

Wouldn't the same tactics of contacting advertisers work on CNN to try to fight their ceasless dishonest smearing of Trump?

Blogger Roger G2 August 20, 2016 2:31 PM  

Very well said. And I like how this guy, and also the MSM, have this perception of gg being a bunch of giggling teenaged trolls. This could not be further from the truth.

Anonymous LAN sakes! August 20, 2016 2:33 PM  

For extra nutrition and energy in the struggle, go back in time and read some Lester Bangs. That's ultra-caffeine for the soul, even if you don't agree with his particulars. It's the style and the attitude that matters.

Also, for sheer lessons in concision, go back to Robert Christgau. Again, I don't agree with him always, but that dude can be short, sharp, and shocking, and that's a skill worth learning.

Blogger Bob Loblaw August 20, 2016 2:41 PM  

A lot of his characterizations of GG are complete nonsense; many of us were not teenagers, just to give one example.

This man is a fool. As Mao said, "See the adversary you respect, not the enemy you despise."

Blogger bob k. mando August 20, 2016 2:52 PM  

GawkerFAG
Sam Biddle, one of Gawker’s best and most notoriously aggressive writers, had tweeted that the lesson of Gamergate was that nerds should be bullied into submission; this in turn led to a flood of tweets and emails to me demanding that he be disciplined; I responded in a mode that seemed appropriate: I goaded and dismissed and largely treated the people complaining with a great deal of contempt and flippancy.
...
anyone genuinely thought that “pro-bullying” is a stance that anyone has ever adopted, or that Sam Biddle’s tweet was a statement in support of bullying.
...
I wasn’t messing around with irony-fluent trolls but with teenagers and college students who seemed unable or unwilling to understand context or sarcasm



so, let me get this straight:
when Gawker demands that people be "bullied into submission" that's totally nothing but irony, sarcasm and out of context?

even though they have forced hundreds of people to be fired for political beliefs, forced founding members out of tech companies and crushed various bakeries / photographers / pizza shops to shut down in real life?

i mean, shit nigger, them homies just didn't understand irony, ain't nobody actually advocating to "bully them into submission" for reals, yo. i ain't use words like sarcasm cuz three syllables be too much for your ADD, honky.

Anonymous Grammar And Grandper Know Best August 20, 2016 2:54 PM  


Excuse me I have to go grapple with some contexts.


Verb some nouns while you are at it.

Blogger bob k. mando August 20, 2016 2:55 PM  

GawkerFAG
For a certain kind of person, at any rate — ambitious, rebellious, and eager for attention, all of which I was.



because greedy Narcissistic "Fuck you, Dad" adrenaline junkies are just the kind of people who should be making editorial decisions about what is or is not news.

Blogger Dave August 20, 2016 2:59 PM  

Bob has it right; this man is a fool.

As Vox often says; know your enemy. This man still does not know the enemy.

Blogger So Meh August 20, 2016 3:01 PM  

The Conservative Movement did have its "Waterloo" and it lost the battle and the war. The War was lost over "Trans-bathrooms". When Conservatives couldn't conserve the moral argument, that mentally impaired men should not use the woman's bathrooms, Conservative Inc. died as a serious cultural fighter. It will stay around to vacuum up donor dollars and sell Cruise Ship cabins, but it is done as a fighting force. Alt-Right God bless and Good Luck. Western Civilization is at stake.

Blogger Brian Niemeier August 20, 2016 3:18 PM  

"And what is the single most salient aspect of GG? Persistence."

Patience obtains all things.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 20, 2016 3:33 PM  

...and had no sense of social boundaries...

This is the core of their complaint. "You damn kids are supposed to shut up and listen to your betters! You're not allowed to critique me! I'm supposed to be critiquing losers like you and the sexist racist inhuman games you play!"

Blogger bob k. mando August 20, 2016 3:38 PM  

35. Snidely Whiplash August 20, 2016 3:33 PM
This is the core of their complaint.


close.

i would say that it is the core of their PROJECTION. it is their porous psychological boundaries which permit them to assault you over the very same actions which they are committing.

because you're just a puppet in the theater of their reality. how DARE you contradict them? don't you know who they are?

they really have no idea how to deal with entities which really, truly, do not have any respect for their secret kingship.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noCWtagaDJQ

peddle faster, motherfuckers, we might be gaining.

Blogger Arthur Isaac August 20, 2016 3:41 PM  

Bullying is apparently the same as racism. If you are of the Narrative you cannot be a bully, if you are not of the Narrative you must be. The modern left has a lot in common with the speakers of taqqiya.

Blogger jonw August 20, 2016 3:52 PM  

he negativity stereotypes male gamers and in the next sentence mentions the negative way women are portrayed in games

Blogger Desillusionerad August 20, 2016 3:57 PM  


they really have no idea how to deal with entities which really, truly, do not have any respect for their secret kingship.

This is really the core of it all, they all operate on a series of premises, and the key to interaction is simply saying, No.
To all of them, always, because if you agree with them, their actions (sometimes) make sense.
they are virtually always absurd, counterfactual, group think.
Make them defend the premise and you win.

Blogger jonw August 20, 2016 3:57 PM  

The cucks have a lot in common with the anti gamergaters
They believe video games are one of the main reasons young men aren't growing up to be good cucks

Anonymous kfg August 20, 2016 4:00 PM  

Racing is life. Anything before, or after, is just waiting.

@22 Jill: "I wish I could have more of this energy-from-conflict you speak of. Living on caffeine, vitamins, and exercise."

The testosterone train is fine.

Blogger JV Small August 20, 2016 4:13 PM  

That no such review ever actually appeared on the site should tell you a lot about Gamergate’s relationship to the truth;

Or maybe the editors?

How hard is it to change by lines?

Blogger dc.sunsets August 20, 2016 4:27 PM  

Perhaps if Mr. Read could take a break from his navel-gazing he might imagine that targets of leftist scolds have no sense of humor about implied bullying because leftist scolds aren't joking. They are, after all, Stalin's children.

Anonymous andon August 20, 2016 4:28 PM  

Anonymous August 20, 2016 2:28 PM
Wouldn't the same tactics of contacting advertisers work on CNN to try to fight their ceasless dishonest smearing of Trump?


I thought so too but the right doesn't seem to like to do this

Anonymous Longtime Lurker August 20, 2016 4:36 PM  

@32: Amen. Now his readers won't know the enemy either, thus compounding the error that helped crash Gawker on the rocks in the first place.

Anonymous old man in a villa August 20, 2016 4:47 PM  

"If you can bug a chief marketing officer, it doesn’t matter that your complaints are disingenuous: He just wants to stop being annoyed."

This is the real world equivalent to sticking the blueprints for the Death Star on R2D2 marked with a great big "X" that reads 'drop photon torpedo here'.

Blogger Jordan179 August 20, 2016 4:53 PM  

The Gamers were Focused -- in Vernor Vingean terms.

Blogger Nate August 20, 2016 5:09 PM  

"What I’d missed about Gamergate was that they were gamers — they had spent years developing a tolerance for highly repetitive tasks. "

that quote is particularly satisfying... given that Larry Correia actually told them specifically how dumb tangling with gamers would be.

Blogger FALPhil August 20, 2016 5:10 PM  

@8 Cataline Sergius
Another thing we had going for us was a complete lack of mainstream Conservative leadership.

If the Cucks had managed to figure out how to latch on to GamerGate, not only would we have lost, we would have handily lost.


I remember thinking this while GG was peaking. I am thinking this could be a classic case study in 4GW.

Blogger Aeoli Pera August 20, 2016 5:27 PM  

And now, with Pokemon Go, kids are being trained to self-organize trips to nearby locations to accomplish mini-operations.

Blogger Aeoli Pera August 20, 2016 5:27 PM  

Not saying anything, I'm just saying.

Anonymous Millenium August 20, 2016 5:46 PM  

@8: There are a lot of cucks in gamergate and that has led to a lot of splintering and missed opportunities. Mostly they are the 'muh PR' type and thankfully they contain themselves to reddit.

@3 weaponized autism
Also known as /pol/

Blogger David-2 August 20, 2016 5:50 PM  

"with teenagers and college students who seemed unable or unwilling to understand context or sarcasm" ... this is printed after 3 weeks during which Trump was pilloried by Democrats, "journalists" (Democrats with bylines), and teenagers and college students for pointed statements of obvious sarcasm, which they failed to understand. Hilarious lack of self-awareness.

Blogger David-2 August 20, 2016 5:57 PM  

Don't forget this: "On Reddit, a campaign was launched to contact every advertiser Gamergaters could find on Gawker’s site — and not just the marketing departments of advertisers like Adobe and BMW, but specific executives. If you can bug a chief marketing officer, it doesn’t matter that your complaints are disingenuous: He just wants to stop being annoyed."

In other words, one of his chief complaints is that Gamergaters had an effective strategy and were effective at using it!.

Which is completely unlike the world of the left he's used to, especially at Gawker, which mainly consists of a bunch of similar-minded people writing articles for each other and whining to each other but without anything except volume of noise as a tactic and little strategy besides shouting people down.

Blogger bob k. mando August 20, 2016 6:07 PM  

53. David-2 August 20, 2016 5:50 PM
this is printed after 3 weeks during which Trump was pilloried by Democrats, "journalists" (Democrats with bylines), and teenagers and college students for pointed statements of obvious sarcasm, which they failed to understand.



Limbaugh regularly makes the same accusation when he says that "Liberals have no sense of humor".

you're both wrong. they understood what Trump said just fine. they understood what Truesdale said just fine.

what you're missing is that, to them, EVERYTHING is about Social Dominance plays within the Warren.

they understand humor just fine when it's about someone on the Right. they 'get' all the little nuances then. because it's being used to attack and degrade that person's Social Standing.

this is the source of their refusal to allow those of the Left to be treated likewise;
because all of their understanding of the world ( and all of their actual 'power' ) is based on Social Status within the Hive, you BadThinkers without the hive will never be permitted to critique the Emperor's diaphanous robes.

because if they permit you to critique the Emperor, you might then also start critiquing them ... and then they have nothing.

this was perhaps Reagan's greatest secret, that he could make good natured jokes about himself and thus defang their attacks.


there is a lack of understanding here, but it's on the Right. because the people of the Right don't try to parse every single damn quip as a play for Status while that's what everyone on the Left is doing constantly.

Blogger praetorian August 20, 2016 6:15 PM  

This man is a fool. As Mao said, "See the adversary you respect, not the enemy you despise."

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

Let us not rush to correct him.

Blogger praetorian August 20, 2016 6:24 PM  

The Conservative Movement did have its "Waterloo" and it lost the battle and the war. The War was lost over "Trans-bathrooms". When Conservatives couldn't conserve the moral argument, that mentally impaired men should not use the woman's bathrooms, Conservative Inc. died as a serious cultural fighter. It will stay around to vacuum up donor dollars and sell Cruise Ship cabins, but it is done as a fighting force. Alt-Right God bless and Good Luck. Western Civilization is at stake.

^^ quoted for great truth

Kek vult

Blogger ace August 20, 2016 6:42 PM  

"See the adversary you respect, not the enemy you despise."

A particularly relevant quote for all of us here. As our host reminds us, there is plenty of stuff they're better at. They didn't waddle onto the cultural high ground by accident.

Humans want to be high status individuals and want to be part of a community. All people virtue-signal. This is a force we shouldn't be trying to stop (that's impossible), but harness. As of now I don't know how to do that or even if it can be done.

"Cuck" is instructive, though. When the well of their virtue is poisoned, the status-jockeys will have to seek water elsewhere.

Blogger Aeoli Pera August 20, 2016 6:53 PM  

Our enemy's primary character trait, and the reason they've won the culture war until now, is their continual malice and instinctual deception.

When's the last time a great mind was seen among the socialists?

Blogger Daniel August 20, 2016 8:22 PM  

Never thought about that.

Blogger Rye Protagonist August 20, 2016 8:28 PM  

I take this as a first attempt by leftists to reframe, rewrite and revise history.
They lost and one of the largest differences between us and them is that they can't take a loss. Too crushing to the ego. Can't use it as a lesson or motivation. Have to spin it as how they were unfairly screwed and therefore never *Really* lost.

Blogger Rye Protagonist August 20, 2016 8:51 PM  

I take this as a first attempt by leftists to reframe, rewrite and revise history.
They lost and one of the largest differences between us and them is that they can't take a loss. Too crushing to the ego. Can't use it as a lesson or motivation. Have to spin it as how they were unfairly screwed and therefore never *Really* lost.

Blogger GFR August 21, 2016 1:07 AM  

That applies to us too..

Anonymous Sagramore August 21, 2016 1:36 AM  

@14 I'm in my 40s and I brought suggestions to GamerGate that I've been using for 20 years. And I know my Alinsky. Deep Freeze is almost identical to some of the sites we ran. Media has been corrupt for a longtime, but the clickbait revolution put it on steroids. I was pleasantly surprised at the quick uptake of gamers. And I can't thank this incident enough for SJW as "BC flaky hippy bullshit" was too much of a mouthful.

Anonymous Sagramore August 21, 2016 1:47 AM  

@54 I'll take "how to use EDGAR" for 500.

Blogger The Overgrown Hobbit August 21, 2016 2:04 AM  

You're so going to need the sloggers who stick to tiresome repetitive tasks because Duty.

The number of H. Sap who are energised by conflict, and who have escaped Gramscian indoctrination at a young enough age to have the energy for the conflict is miniscule.

If we're going to win, we need to build institutions.

Blogger The Overgrown Hobbit August 21, 2016 2:15 AM  

Addendum

The teenagers behind Gamergate were young, obsessive, deeply resentful of women, and had no sense of social boundaries..

It's astonishing how older women and their daughters are deeply resentful about being called a young, obsessive, anti-social teenage boys, and how torqued off they are at having their clever, funny, capable, gamer brothers, husbands, and sons dismissed as same.

Way to recruit us for GamerGate, idiots.

Blogger Leo Little Book in Shenzhen August 21, 2016 2:19 AM  

A hyena cackle can chivvy, chivvy chivvy the lionesses away.

But one patrolling lion can rack up kills indefinitely.

Blogger LP9 Solidified in Gold! Rin Integra August 21, 2016 12:17 PM  

I'll give this a try; The Lord was all about joy yet also suffering with endurance...The travailing or struggle or trail of tears is the most alive happiest place to exist in. It is like coding, which I dont know but it sounds like repetitive, painstaking, constant work that is only suited for certain personalities. The left is to too emotional for repetitive tasks like keying, the cucks get bored too easy so the honorable (obviously non-sjw) completionist wins.

Blogger Jackie DeLister August 21, 2016 3:22 PM  

@55

Liberals excuse their hypocrisy by saying they are punching up, so it's ok.

Anonymous Jamie NZ August 23, 2016 5:41 AM  

Gammergate

Shit I almost forgot....

http://captaincapitalism.blogspot.co.nz/2014/10/gamergate-for-non-virgins.html

Seems a lifetime ago to me

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