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Thursday, August 18, 2016

Then they fight you

(((Joel Stein))) attacks the Alt-Right in Time:
Trolling is, overtly, a political fight. Liberals do indeed troll–sex-advice columnist Dan Savage used his followers to make Googling former Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum’s last name a blunt lesson in the hygienic challenges of anal sex; the hunter who killed Cecil the lion got it really bad.

But trolling has become the main tool of the alt-right, an Internet-grown reactionary movement that works for men’s rights and against immigration and may have used the computer from Weird Science to fabricate Donald Trump. Not only does Trump share their attitudes, but he’s got mad trolling skills: he doxxed Republican primary opponent Senator Lindsey Graham by giving out his cell-phone number on TV and indirectly got his Twitter followers to attack GOP political strategist Cheri Jacobus so severely that her lawyers sent him a cease-and-desist order.

The alt-right’s favorite insult is to call men who don’t hate feminism “cucks,” as in “cuckold.” Republicans who don’t like Trump are “cuckservatives.” Men who don’t see how feminists are secretly controlling them haven’t “taken the red pill,” a reference to the truth-revealing drug in The Matrix. They derisively call their adversaries “social-justice warriors” and believe that liberal interest groups purposely exploit their weakness to gain pity, which allows them to control the levers of power. Trolling is the alt-right’s version of political activism, and its ranks view any attempt to take it away as a denial of democracy.
It's always educational to see how the media inevitably attempts to push its Narrative by redefining terms. They're actually attempting to ban self-expression in the name of self-expression, in much the same way the EU tries to bar democracy in the name of democracy.

The alt-right argues that if you can’t handle opprobrium, you should just turn off your computer. But that’s arguing against self-expression, something antithetical to the original values of the Internet. 

No, that's not arguing against self-expression, that IS self-expression. Moreover, it is using the media's own argument against it: "if you don't like it, turn off the TV". It's amazing to see them resorting to the Moral Majority's position they used to oppose. They're going to pine for the good old days when they were dealing with the terrible, no-good Religious Right they hated so much, as the Alt-Right is considerably less tolerant and merciful.

And, of course, the conservative media loves this stuff; they hate the Alt-Right worse than they ever hated communism, leftists, or Democrats.
Dana Perino ‏@DanaPerino
How Trolls Are Ruining the Internet - article in TIME - we are doing this subject on @TheFiveFNC. Mostly AGREE!
First the New York Times, then Time magazine, and now Fox News are attacking the Alt Right. Looks like we got ourselves a new media offensive on our hands. This is a good sign. They used to ignore us. Then they mocked us. Now, they're fighting us. You know what comes next. We win.

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176 Comments:

Blogger Anchorman August 18, 2016 11:52 AM  

The alt-Right fights.

The "respected Right" calls for a quick surrender on an issue so they can move to the next issue that they will surrender on.

I'm not sure if I'm "alt-Right," but I can't stand the simpering, limp-wristed "fight" the mainstream Right thinks is effective.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan August 18, 2016 11:53 AM  

I believe this dweeb once wrote for Playboy in its declining years, a looter in other words

Blogger Brian S August 18, 2016 11:56 AM  

"something antithetical to the original values of the Internet"

what the actual f@#$?!

Blogger Anchorman August 18, 2016 11:58 AM  

Ineffective: Publicly "read out" from your movement a group that has already rejected your movement.

Anonymous Faceless August 18, 2016 11:58 AM  

They whitewash history, too.

I remember standing at freshman orientation in the late 1990s at Moo U and hearing some dip wad go up in his fake white-boy-from-Grosse-Pointe dreadlocks and rasta hat saying how he was going to school to get his degree in social justice so that he could be a warrior and activist for social justice.

It's used in derision now because the Tumblr brigade thought it was a badge of honor, but, well, we all know how it went when Tumblr tried going after 4Chan.

Blogger The Kurgan August 18, 2016 12:02 PM  

Once again, I have to lift up my face-shield to you sir. Your strategic acumen, distasteful as it may occasionally be in its particulars to those of us more tactically minded is proved yet again quite flawless.
Consequently, time to lower the helmet enclosure again and continue hacking at the orcs in my own way whilst aiming for the same end point.
My preference for use of a sword instead of poisoning the wells is, I suppose, affectation we can scarcely afford in war. But there's enough need of hacking that I don't have to concern myself with poisoning wells. Yet.
And to be fair, you do always tell them you'll be poisoning the wells in advance.

Anonymous Steve August 18, 2016 12:09 PM  

Lol.

BTW, when I grew up it wasn't called trolling, but ridicule and satire were very powerful tools of the Left, and almost exclusively the Left, because they had a lock on the entertainment media.

Alternative comedians might not have gotten rid of Thatcher or Reagan, but their weaponised mockery was effective in demoralising the Right and attracting young people to the progressive side.

The shoe is now on the other foot, now that anybody with an internet connection can point out that Joel Stein looks like he got arrested for lewd acts at a petting zoo.

Blogger Bard August 18, 2016 12:10 PM  

Your writing and retorts have become razor sharp. Keep going.

Blogger Feather Blade August 18, 2016 12:13 PM  

"Liberals do indeed troll..." but it's not fair for the big mean alt-right boys to fight back the same way! *pout* /prog

Blogger ghostfromplanetspook August 18, 2016 12:13 PM  

"Please scalp me I'm a cuck and I'm tired of having a functioning anus." - TIMES
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More scalps of the Dark Lord it is then.

Blogger Krul August 18, 2016 12:15 PM  

They keep repeating variations of "hate!" like magic formulae and can't comprehend why it doesn't work anymore.

It's amazing how Ayn Rand described all this so long ago. The interaction between the Left and the Alt-Right just is the Taggart siblings or the Rearden brothers writ large. She even predicted shitlords with the character of Francisco D/Anconia. It's uncanny.

Anonymous Undocumented Civilizationalist August 18, 2016 12:15 PM  

I was one of those that 10 years ago didn't like the "distasteful" talk or insults. I thought the "high road" was always the way to go.

What the hell did that get me? Losing elections, destruction of my country, war against my children (since they are boys), and insulted repeatedly.

Well, fuck them. I want total war now. Scorched earth. Absolutely destruction of the enemy. No mercy, no prisoners. A smoking hole in the ground filled with salt. Never quit, never yield.

We adopt the enemies tactics and we use them BETTER.

Bring it on.

Anonymous Roundtine August 18, 2016 12:17 PM  

The rise of the alt-right and even those Bernie Bros is the return of men and male patterns of debate. If there isn't state power and social pressure being used to crush whites and males, they will quickly dominate because they are more competitive and more willing to engage in direct confrontational combat.

Blogger Durandel Almiras August 18, 2016 12:17 PM  

The amount of false info in the article is also telling. Can't even tell the truth about why Gamergate started, the Milo-Jones event, and then goes into left field on some Andrew Auernheimer who is not a major name in alt-Right if at all, and then complaints by people who are as trustworthy to tell the truth as Anita Sarkesian or Zoe Quinn.

Someone is grasping for straws. They really are getting desperate. I'm guessing this is in response to Mike Cernovich basically dictating the political news of the nation for the last 72 hours. I also notice Mike wasn't even mentioned once.

Blogger Loyd Jenkins August 18, 2016 12:19 PM  

Sounds like he is say, "You terrible people. How dare do to me what I have been doing to you. Waaaa!"

Anonymous Longtime Lurker August 18, 2016 12:21 PM  

Joel Stein cries us a text river because he sees what the rest of us see: His side in the Culture War is getting its pretentious ass kicked with increasing regularity.

Blogger JWM August 18, 2016 12:23 PM  

"Why We're Losing the Internet to the Culture of Hate"

Translated: "Why does so much of America hate us?" *gee*, we just can't figure it out. After all we have the best of intentions. They're evil. That's the only answer...

JWM

Blogger Cash August 18, 2016 12:25 PM  

The tactics are never a problem until someone on the right starts doing what was previously left to the left.

Big Billionaire on the right as an answer to Soros? Money in politics!

Not giving details in speeches? The dumbing down of politics!

Anonymous Broken Arrow August 18, 2016 12:25 PM  

Those dastardly rogues in the Alt-Right using unapproved rhetoric! Why I've never seen such breach of decorum since that uncouth man approached Aunt Violet at the Great East Coast Diversity Festival last fall. There should be a law!

Blogger Krul August 18, 2016 12:28 PM  

"Why we're losing the internet to the culture of hate"

Does Stein even attempt to answer this question?

Doesn't matter. The answer is this: unlike universities, traditional media, government, and corporations, the internet is a genuine free marketplace of ideas, which means that in the long run, the best ideas are going to win. In POZ land, pointing out the obvious gets you fired and ostracized. On the internet, it gets you a following. Kapish?

Blogger Robert Divinity August 18, 2016 12:32 PM  

use of a sword instead of poisoning the wells

Whatever works. Both can be used.

Stein's studied avoidance of certain details, primarily his fellow communists' de-platforming of opposition voices including his deceptive account of Twitter and Milo, is telling. There is a truly fearful undertone throughout the Stein column. The old days of Punch and Judy with the communist-approved cucks taking a fall have ended. This is a death struggle and Stein is shocked his victims have realized it and started to push back.

As far as Perino, I publicly confronted her once over her SJW'ing-lite. It was during the middle of Jorge al-Busto's attempted mass amnesty in '07 and her shilling of it. I was escorted from the room but it felt so damned good to see the blank look on her face.

We. Don't. Care.

Blogger Amigo August 18, 2016 12:34 PM  

People Time doesn't like are using the internet to spread ideas Time doesn't like. I wish they allowed comments on this article.

Blogger Amigo August 18, 2016 12:34 PM  

People Time doesn't like are using the internet to spread ideas Time doesn't like. I wish they allowed comments on this article.

Blogger Brian S August 18, 2016 12:36 PM  

Amigo wrote:People Time doesn't like are using the internet to spread ideas Time doesn't like. I wish they allowed comments on this article.

nobody makes me bleed my own blood!

Blogger Robert Divinity August 18, 2016 12:37 PM  

I wish they allowed comments on this article.

Comments sections began to disappear when the precursors to what is now the Alt-Right used to leave unpleasant observations, not the least of which the original article was an outright lie. National Review went full Social Justice Warrior recently and ended anonymous comments. They now, wait for it, wait for it, require comments via Facebook. You can't make that shit up.

Anonymous Crude August 18, 2016 12:40 PM  

The tactics are never a problem until someone on the right starts doing what was previously left to the left.

Yep. Dan Savage can do it and it's 'funny' or 'activism' but oh if the alt right does it, that is a bridge too far sir.

Fuck 'em. Their complaint is that it's working, and they don't know how to combat it other than this hand-wringing.

Blogger Gunnar von Cowtown August 18, 2016 12:41 PM  

(((Stein's))) article is terribly ineffective propaganda.

"But trolling has become the main tool of the alt-right, an Internet-grown reactionary movement that works for men’s rights and against immigration and may have used the computer from Weird Science to fabricate Donald Trump."

If'n I weren't already alt-right, I'd read that passage and think, "Cool. I need to check out these guys." The Chans, Milo and The Daily Stormer are gonna see some extra traffic.

Anonymous Amarnoth August 18, 2016 12:44 PM  

Stein has 1 child. Heh. Cuck.

White genocide my ass; White liberal demographic decline my God, yes!

Anonymous Scintan August 18, 2016 12:48 PM  

Durandel Almiras wrote:The amount of false info in the article is also telling. Can't even tell the truth about why Gamergate started, the Milo-Jones event, and then goes into left field on some Andrew Auernheimer who is not a major name in alt-Right if at all, and then complaints by people who are as trustworthy to tell the truth as Anita Sarkesian or Zoe Quinn.

Someone is grasping for straws. They really are getting desperate. I'm guessing this is in response to Mike Cernovich basically dictating the political news of the nation for the last 72 hours. I also notice Mike wasn't even mentioned once.


Leftists never stop trying to frame the narrative in their favor. Don't confuse that with desperation.

Anonymous CarpeOro August 18, 2016 12:49 PM  

Wait, Time is still in business? Did Soros buy it to prop it up?

Anonymous Anonymous August 18, 2016 12:49 PM  

VD,

In regards to this article and your previous, they do not know the difference and the same as, that is feminism and the Female Imperative.

The two are clearly different, but come from the same place. That is, Darkness and evil. A very feminine christian woman can be high FI, but low feminism. This seems like an oxymoron, but the two are married. A feminist is both and can be christian, but doesn't have to be christian.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan August 18, 2016 12:52 PM  

Stein another chestless male without virtue.

Blogger Arthur Isaac August 18, 2016 12:55 PM  

Starting to have a cuckservative journo-list vibe here all of a sudden.

Blogger Leo Little Book in Shenzhen August 18, 2016 12:57 PM  

We're Losing the Internet

Shine daylight on trolls, and they turn to stone.

I'm rock hard.

Blogger Kryten 2X4B 523P August 18, 2016 12:57 PM  

"Joel Stein writes a weekly column for TIME magazine. His book, Man Made: A Stupid Quest For Masculinity, changes people’s lives." - oh look, a self hating white male SJW! Never seen one of those writing "journalism" before...

Blogger Wrangler August 18, 2016 12:57 PM  

I never had even heard of the Alt Right until about 9 months ago. Now it is like the entire main stream is obsessed with snuffing it out, which must mean they are scared. Tipping point appears to be inbound, as the Alt Right is almost all under 35.

Anonymous Thales August 18, 2016 12:58 PM  

Hey, remember when trolling meant taking an insincere position to get get someone flustered? Now it's just slur for an idea one disagrees with.

Anonymous Longtime Lurker August 18, 2016 1:02 PM  

@34: ""Joel Stein writes a weekly column for TIME magazine. His book, Man Made: A Stupid Quest For Masculinity, changes people’s lives." - oh look, a self hating white male SJW! Never seen one of those writing "journalism" before..."

Did he ask John Scalzi for advice?

Blogger Robert Divinity August 18, 2016 1:08 PM  

Starting to have a cuckservative journo-list vibe here all of a sudden.

Yep, the phrases and memes indicate as much.

Blogger Arthur Isaac August 18, 2016 1:14 PM  

In slightly related news Gawker finally bit it.

Blogger Arthur Isaac August 18, 2016 1:14 PM  

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Anonymous patrick kelly August 18, 2016 1:15 PM  

Sounds like free advertising.

I wonder how many people will read Joel's article and think, "wow, so that's what the alt-right is all about. Where can I sign up?".

Reminds me of conversations with people describing what they think is horrible about Trump and their dumbfounded faces upon hearing the "yeah, ain't he awesome" responses.



Anonymous paleopaleo August 18, 2016 1:16 PM  

#13
The rise of the alt-right and even those Bernie Bros is the return of men and male patterns of debate. If there isn't state power and social pressure being used to crush whites and males, they will quickly dominate because they are more competitive and more willing to engage in direct confrontational combat.

THIS

Anonymous Roundtine August 18, 2016 1:17 PM  

and then goes into left field on some Andrew Auernheimer who is not a major name in alt-Right if at all

He is better known as Weev. He was part of the white clubs on college campuses troll, sending lots of print orders to campus computers. Made the NYTimes. He's done a lot more as well, helped sites such as TRS and Fash the Nation get up and running. The media is going to focus on whomever is the most "racist" and "anti-semitic" on the alt-right in order to force purges. If it were NRO-types they would scream in horror and run away, to cuck and surrender another day.

Anonymous Godfrey August 18, 2016 1:20 PM  

The irony is that they're the reactionaries. All they do is react.

Anonymous Wyrd August 18, 2016 1:20 PM  

Speaking of ((())), Stefan Molyneux is now officially a White Supremicist:

https://twitter.com/splcenter/status/766069698458902528

Blogger Cecil Henry August 18, 2016 1:21 PM  


Did yo say something we don't like??

Then your a troll.

Did a have a strong punch and make the point???

You're a TROLL.

Imagine, all this accomplished from their mother's basement!!! Amazing.

Diversity means everyone MUST think alike about 'diversity'

Blogger Brian S August 18, 2016 1:23 PM  

Wyrd wrote:Speaking of ((())), Stefan Molyneux is now officially a White Supremicist:

don't worry, he's cucking for Soros in his latest video

Anonymous Wyrd August 18, 2016 1:27 PM  

don't worry, he's cucking for Soros in his latest video

No, he is not. He argues Soros is a symptom, not the cause of Western political problems. If you vaporized Soros, someone else just like him would step into the void.

Blogger Brian S August 18, 2016 1:31 PM  

Wyrd wrote:don't worry, he's cucking for Soros in his latest video

No, he is not. He argues Soros is a symptom, not the cause of Western political problems. If you vaporized Soros, someone else just like him would step into the void.


some people miss the forest for the trees, others miss the bears for the forest.

Blogger Mike Romkey August 18, 2016 1:35 PM  

If you can control the terms of debate, you control the debate and you win. Example: browbeating public discourse into saying "woman's right to choose" instead of "pro-abortion." The Alt-Right tide is rising. Hoist the Jolly Roger and prime the cannon.

Blogger Chris Jackson August 18, 2016 1:35 PM  

And in the process, self-proclaimed "sensible" Republicans will once again demonstrate exactly why they constantly lose.

Anonymous Darth Wheatley #2415 August 18, 2016 1:40 PM  

Undocumented Civilizationalist wrote:I was one of those that 10 years ago didn't like the "distasteful" talk or insults. I thought the "high road" was always the way to go.

What the hell did that get me? Losing elections, destruction of my country, war against my children (since they are boys), and insulted repeatedly.

Well, fuck them. I want total war now. Scorched earth. Absolutely destruction of the enemy. No mercy, no prisoners. A smoking hole in the ground filled with salt. Never quit, never yield.

We adopt the enemies tactics and we use them BETTER.

Bring it on.


Succinctly put. It took a while, but I arrived at the same conclusion.

Also, Weev is the man. Freaking genius.

Blogger Whisker biscuit August 18, 2016 1:52 PM  

The alt-right is now in the crucifixion phase--the passion. Next, you rise and conquer.

Blogger Thordaddy August 18, 2016 1:56 PM  

There is only one lesson for young white boy to learn from this piece in Time...

{{{The Man}}} murderously hates, loathes and despises the "white (s)---------t."

So BE a wS. And in this vicious cycle is the "race" to The Singularity...

wS --> / <-- S^^

Blogger SemiSpook37 August 18, 2016 1:57 PM  

Arthur Isaac wrote:In slightly related news Gawker finally bit it.

It's going to be hilarious watching that hole fall apart over the next week. Couldn't have happened to a better group of degenerate idiots.

And ironically, announcement was made a week after the launch of their "male oriented" subsite (and I kid you not): The Cuck.

Blogger dc.sunsets August 18, 2016 1:58 PM  

"We don't tolerate your intolerance. Or your right to be intolerant. Or something."

My favorite question here is, "To whom are they trying to sell their Narrative?"

Are Time-(Narrative)-Cops attempting to shore up the Faithful Herd in the face of a blasphemous undercurrent?

I know it's tired, but "Methinks they doth protest too much."

Blogger Whisker biscuit August 18, 2016 2:02 PM  

The Hulkster ran wild on Gawker, brother!

Blogger dc.sunsets August 18, 2016 2:02 PM  

Semi OT: Jared Taylor's 11 minute video illustration of reality vs Narrative regarding Milwaukee's recent race-based bonfire is pretty much IT. http://www.amren.com/features/2016/08/the-truth-about-the-milwaukee-riots/

What's Stein to do when they can't get their pets to stick to the damned script?! I mean, Stein's Ministry of Truth simply can't have "their people" going off script and expect to continue baffling with BS.

Anonymous Wyrd August 18, 2016 2:05 PM  

@ Brian S

some people miss the forest for the trees, others miss the bears for the forest.

Yeah, an avowed anarchist cucks for a globalist. Sounds totally legit.

Anonymous St. Cecilia August 18, 2016 2:06 PM  

"...saying how he was going to school to get his degree in social justice so that he could be a warrior and activist for social justice."

At a demonstration for faculty "diversity" outside Boalt law school in 1990, I heard a student speaker, a Latino, introduce himself as "Minister of Propaganda."

Blogger Cluebat Vanexodar August 18, 2016 2:06 PM  

How can Weev be alt-Right and a SJW?

On November 29, 2012, Auernheimer wrote an article in Wired entitled "Forget Disclosure – Hackers Should Keep Security Holes to Themselves," advocating the disclosure of any zero-day exploit only to individuals who will "use it in the interests of social justice."
- from Wiki/spitpedia

Who is he trolling?

Never heard of him, but he's a friend of Charles Johnson apparently. So there's that.

Blogger Robert Divinity August 18, 2016 2:07 PM  

My favorite question here is, "To whom are they trying to sell their Narrative?"

It is an attempt to virtue signal to the cucks to "keep up the good fight." And right on command, Dana Perino and other Fox News poodles begin to jump through flaming hoops.

There also may be an element of keeping up troop morale but suspect it is more about making sure the wedge remains driven between their cuck pets and the scary up-and-coming Natural Right.

Blogger Shell August 18, 2016 2:07 PM  

Every time I see Dana Perino I think she gets more annoying.

Blogger dc.sunsets August 18, 2016 2:10 PM  

Stein's chicken-sh*t. Not a single reference to Vox Day, Cernovich, or any other person/site (except for Milo) I could think of.

When they don't link through to those whom they criticize, you know they're terrified they might lose readers to "the dark side." Bwa-ha-ha-ha. (insert breathing apparatus sounds.)

Blogger tz August 18, 2016 2:10 PM  

“At a time like this, scorching irony, not convincing argument, is needed... It is not light that we need, but fire; it is not the gentle shower, but thunder. We need the storm, the whirlwind, and the earthquake.” –Frederick Douglass

In this case, it would have been if two slave states were admitted for every free one and the politicians in the north didn't say stop!

But it was the left that removed God from schools. The problem is that they forgot the barbarians wouldn't all stay happy commie cuckolds.

Dis-civilization must be destroyed before civilization can be restored.

But it is their discivilization, so their rules. They might eventually want civilization back as much as we do.

Blogger Dirtnapninja August 18, 2016 2:11 PM  

Free publicity!

Blogger Brian S August 18, 2016 2:12 PM  

Wyrd wrote:@ Brian S

some people miss the forest for the trees, others miss the bears for the forest.

Yeah, an avowed anarchist cucks for a globalist. Sounds totally legit.


He's willfully ignoring the tribal aspect, this "anyone" could step into the void crap sounds like egalitarian crap to me

Blogger tz August 18, 2016 2:12 PM  

This is the legacy media's version of NR's #NeverTrump death-rattle issue.

Blogger Undocumented Pharmacist August 18, 2016 2:12 PM  

People Time doesn't like are using the internet to spread ideas Time doesn't like.

If comments were allowed that would definitely get you a night in the box.

Anonymous Elipe August 18, 2016 2:16 PM  

The more I see gaslighting crap like this from the media, the more convinced I become that with the right political figure, the Alt-Right will EASILY have a ready-made army.

Keep it up you (((fuckers))). Give us more rope, please.

Blogger Alex August 18, 2016 2:16 PM  

#12, I could have written the same thing....

Blogger professorastro August 18, 2016 2:19 PM  

"...antithetical to the original values of the Internet." WTF were the original values of the internet? Was the Internet created for the SJWs only?

Blogger Goofilin August 18, 2016 2:19 PM  

I like coming here to read what the Alt-Right is thinking. You are ALL a bunch of cry babies. "I don't like the world! wa wa wa waaaa!!!!"

You want to fight, all right, let's do it, just be aware that the real battles won are Policies, Laws, Rules. As in the REAL world, not all this "free Milo" bullshit, or "you are a cuckservative" internet diatribe.

MAN UP!

Anonymous Wyrd August 18, 2016 2:20 PM  

@Brian S

He's willfully ignoring the tribal aspect, this "anyone" could step into the void crap sounds like egalitarian crap to me

For everyone else reading, this is Stefan's video in question:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfLkJ9unec0

You may not agree with Stefan's political preferences, but he is clearly arguing we have to change things on larger scale in order to combat vermin like Soros.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 18, 2016 2:20 PM  

tz wrote:But it is their discivilization, so their rules.

Says who?

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 18, 2016 2:23 PM  

Goofilin wrote:I like coming here to read what the Alt-Right is thinking. You are ALL a bunch of cry babies. "I don't like the world! wa wa wa waaaa!!!!"

You want to fight, all right, let's do it, just be aware that the real battles won are Policies, Laws, Rules. As in the REAL world, not all this "free Milo" bullshit, or "you are a cuckservative" internet diatribe.

MAN UP!

Internet Leftie Tuff Guy is tuff.
Who exactlya re you challenging to a... fistfight?...over teh internet?

Where and when do you propose the fistfight take place?

Blogger Robert Divinity August 18, 2016 2:29 PM  

I like coming here to read what the Alt-Right is thinking. You are ALL a bunch of cry babies. "I don't like the world! wa wa wa waaaa!!!!"

We should be so easy to defeat, then, that this site would bore you if you believed one word of what you wrote (unless you are a fucking cretin, certainly a possibility).

You want to fight, all right, let's do it, just be aware that the real battles won are Policies, Laws, Rules.

There are no rules or laws any longer. You people took that off the table. We will go for policies by any means necessary.


As in the REAL world, not all this "free Milo" bullshit, or "you are a cuckservative" internet diatribe.

The all caps on "real" make me lean cretin. We are in the real world, child. You only have started fully to appreciate the extent.

MAN UP!

Blogger Goofilin August 18, 2016 2:29 PM  

Snidely Whiplash:
Rules, Laws, Policies. THESE are the battlegrounds. And you are losing.

Anonymous Hank August 18, 2016 2:30 PM  

Communists, leftists, and Democrats were bad for the country, not bad for business. The Alt Right is bad for business.

Anonymous WinstonWebb August 18, 2016 2:33 PM  

Goofilin August 18, 2016 2:29 PM
Snidely Whiplash:
Rules, Laws, Policies. THESE are the battlegrounds. And you are losing.

The SJW pendulum forever swings to the Left.

Blogger Goofilin August 18, 2016 2:36 PM  

Robert Divinity:
"There are no rules or laws any longer. You people took that off the table. We will go for policies by any means necessary."

I am trembling!! (sarcasm).

The truth is the rule of law exists. It seems it is not to your liking. To bad. Now you believe you are one step away of an armed revolution. hahaha! Did you watch the news of what happened to your folks at Oregon and their "armed revolution"? Probably not, what with news being part of the evil mainstream media. I suggest you do and behold your future.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 18, 2016 2:38 PM  

Goofilin wrote:Rules, Laws, Policies. THESE are the battlegrounds. And you are losing.

So, 4GW is really outside your radar then? The alt-right has been around for what? 2-3 years? You Pinko-fag bolshies have had damn near 200 years to get where you are. We're still in the recruiting phase, fuckwit.

Blogger Robert Divinity August 18, 2016 2:38 PM  

The truth is the rule of law exists. It seems it is not to your liking.

You communists destroyed the Rule of Law. Now you must suffer the consequences.

The rest truly frightened me.

Now shoo, little troll, shoo. No one cares what you think.

Anonymous alexamenos August 18, 2016 2:39 PM  

Snidely Whiplash:
Rules, Laws, Policies. THESE are the battlegrounds. And you are losing.
--------------------
Guns and ammo, let us not forget that real political power comes out of the business end of a gun.

The policy you need to most concern yourself with is gun control. Until you've won that won, you've won nothing.

Blogger tz August 18, 2016 2:42 PM  

@76 I should have been clearer - it is their lack of any rules of civility, and we are playing by the lack of rules.

Blogger Salt August 18, 2016 2:44 PM  

@82. Goofilin

I suspect someone said something similar in the waning days of the Roman Empire or perhaps just prior to the Terror that was France.

Blogger Goofilin August 18, 2016 2:48 PM  

Robert Divinity:
"You communists destroyed the Rule of Law. Now you must suffer the consequences." What consequences? You landing in jail after an armed confrontation against the police?
"Now shoo, little troll, shoo. No one cares what you think." Am I breaking your little fantasy of an armed revolution? ahhhh, :(

Snidely WHiplash:
"We're still in the recruiting phase, fuckwit." Fuck you too. Keep on recruiting for all I care. In a good day for the Alt Right you are nothing but a bad taste in the mouth; or some chalk at the entrance of Twitter.

But I see that I ruffled some feathers. I will leave you all alone, lest you actually go out and... what? Shout at an immigrant to go back home? Tell a woman that they are less? I shudder!!!!

Blogger Sillon Bono August 18, 2016 2:50 PM  

Well, we despise them to the point of considering them inept at every possible level imaginable.

At least speaking for me the only thing they can expect is my total indifference and a spit in their cucked faces if they get too close.

Blogger Brian S August 18, 2016 2:51 PM  

wow, didn't take long for Gawker employees to find new work

Blogger Whisker biscuit August 18, 2016 2:52 PM  

As opposed to letting grown men tuck their peckers between their legs and tinkle in the ladies room?

Promote bloody, disgusting, clinically- proven unhealthy anal sex to children in kindergarten?

Passing policies that have destroyed the black community to the point of no return?

Blogger Chiva August 18, 2016 2:57 PM  

@88 Goofilin,

You may bask in the supremacy of what you consider the rule of law. But laws change, cultures change, people change.
It will happen. When it does, we will remember.

Anonymous Elipe August 18, 2016 3:03 PM  

His user name is Goofilin. Somehow, I don't get the impression he's here for a sincere discussion.

And he's sounding an awful lot like a paid shill.

Blogger Arthur Isaac August 18, 2016 3:04 PM  

The people most dependent on the State and to a larger degree on the civic mindedness of their better are gleeful at their destruction. Oh, the irony.

I am prepared for anarchy, the progressives who are spearheading it aren't.

Blogger tublecane August 18, 2016 3:06 PM  

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Blogger Mr.MantraMan August 18, 2016 3:08 PM  

I'd skip the troll battle a true non entity as compared to the vast, vast conspiracy that coincidentally Douthat and Stein have uncovered at the same time

And it is lead by a man nicknamed "Weev" no doubt a mustachioed scalawag

I mock them, it is fun

Blogger Nigel McPhearson August 18, 2016 3:09 PM  

This tool has this article posted on his FB page. It's just starting to get pushback in the comments.
Commence the triggering!

Blogger tublecane August 18, 2016 3:10 PM  

Why does he pretend the term "cuck" derives from anti-feminism? Because he thinks feminism is easier to defend than open borders, or is he that ignorant? The alt-right's greatest asset continues to be the opposition's unfamiliarity with it. We paddle in a sea of leftism. They haven't heard some of our arguments since the days of their great-great grandparents.

Anonymous DeeJay August 18, 2016 3:10 PM  

Would it be safe to say that the Alternative Right has pretty much hitched their wagons to Donald Trump's Presidential run at this point? I really have no idea what going to happen in November, but it seems like how he fares there will impact how it's regarded in the future.

Blogger Chiva August 18, 2016 3:15 PM  

Would it be safe to say that the Alternative Right has pretty much hitched their wagons to Donald Trump's Presidential run at this point?

I think the reverse is more appropriate.

Blogger tublecane August 18, 2016 3:16 PM  

@99-No. That's what Conservatism, Inc. W
would argue, obviously, upon Trump losing. (Though they'd never apply it to the policy recommendations of a Mitt Romney campaign, for instance.) However, the ideas are out there now, like a virus. And future Republican candidates know it's possible to win the nomination without kissing the MSM's ass.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan August 18, 2016 3:19 PM  

No deejay it's the other way around we are a vast conspiracy that never rests and in a secret ceremony we have inducted DJT as a stalking horse to bring despair upon the good progs and cucks of the world

Blogger JWM August 18, 2016 3:23 PM  

Poor goofball.
Wasting pixels in the wrong arena. You should stay on Facebook making a highly principled stand against racism, and islamophobia. Your voice needs to be heard!

JWM

Blogger Lovekraft August 18, 2016 3:23 PM  

Is this from the issue with the cover of an abstract Trump picture with the caption "The Meltdown"?

I think we should come up with a new term for Alt-Right. Because it has grown to include flamers and small-l liberals, the common goal should be relatively easy to formulate: a well-run, well-designed society, the main function of which is peace, order and good gov't.

Other things follow from this. But here's the kicker: this system requires a VERIFIABILITY, or OBSERVATIONAL adequacy. With this, the state will expose frivolity, corruption, bias etc.

Blogger VD August 18, 2016 3:27 PM  

I think we should come up with a new term for Alt-Right.

No. It's neither clever nor sensible to be the guy who always does this.

it seems like how he fares there will impact how it's regarded in the future.

Seems....

Blogger VD August 18, 2016 3:28 PM  

You want to fight, all right, let's do it, just be aware that the real battles won are Policies, Laws, Rules. As in the REAL world, not all this "free Milo" bullshit, or "you are a cuckservative" internet diatribe.

Obvious troll is obvious.

Anonymous Roundtine August 18, 2016 3:30 PM  

@61

On November 29, 2012, Auernheimer wrote an article in Wired entitled "Forget Disclosure – Hackers Should Keep Security Holes to Themselves," advocating the disclosure of any zero-day exploit only to individuals who will "use it in the interests of social justice."

The article didn't make it clear what he meant by social justice because he was quoting an antisec group and went on to write, "This is the only way we can arm the good guys — whoever you think they are — for a change."

Blogger GracieLou August 18, 2016 3:31 PM  

"Tell a woman that they are less? I shudder!!!!"

They always act like it's some kind of He-Man Woman Hater's Club around here but I'm fine, and I bruise easily.

And my posts are long-winded and off topic as hell. And then that time I got drunk and wrote about my Ted Cruz sex dream (!). Nothing but gentlemanly indulgence and mild chuckling.

Unlike the virtual gutting, witch-burning and potty mouth I've suffered at the hands of FeMen on Facebook and such.

Anonymous Al Gore August 18, 2016 3:35 PM  

@72 professorastro
"...antithetical to the original values of the Internet." WTF were the original values of the internet? Was the Internet created for the SJWs only?

The Inter-Net was created by me for good people to do good purposes, not for bad people like you to do bad things. Get off of my Inter-Net and stay off of my lawn, too.

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 August 18, 2016 3:35 PM  

The Alt-Right is largely the result of the likes of Joel Stein and other establishment puke rejecting Ron Paul and principled constitutionalism.

So we all got together and decided to pick the most brash and in-your-face rich guy we could find who supports some of our views.

Blogger Lovekraft August 18, 2016 3:36 PM  

I know the debate over semantics is tired and played out. Alt Right works for me. But let's say, for the sake of argument, the State goes full gulag on the Alt Right. If it morphs into this higher ideal - uniting based on solid principles, it exposes the State yet again.

Is it good to have to change and adapt rather than stand our ground? No. But in the immediate future, the reality is that we will need to regroup.

Anonymous Philipp August 18, 2016 3:36 PM  

Remember guys - don't feed the trolls.

Let Vox and the moderators deal with them.

Blogger Arthur Isaac August 18, 2016 3:44 PM  

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Anonymous Gen. Kong August 18, 2016 3:46 PM  

Our honored ancestors obviously were too soft-hearted and failed to burn nearly enough witches, impale nearly enough enemies or make anywhere near the number of lampshades required. Guess this unfortunate situation will have to be rectified this time around.

Blogger Arthur Isaac August 18, 2016 3:49 PM  

I'm curious what winning looks like these days. Coming up out of the ashes of our washed over Republic? Looking at the SCOTUS I'm not seeing much in the way of salvage. A return to a strict interpretation of the Constitution and a swerve away from Empire is far fetched. Even with Brexit and a Trump win I don't see anyone arguing that we have reached peak globalist yet. At this point their sole aim is destroying the existing order to replace it with their global version of Brazil and we only gain allies as they horrifically succeed.

Blogger Escoffier August 18, 2016 3:50 PM  

That's because human nature doesn't change Keil. I think you'll find some similar truths in Aristophanes the council women.

Anonymous Godfrey August 18, 2016 3:53 PM  

This really is fun. They're really angry that we're not playing by their rules. We're supposed to play a part you see. We're supposed to be the fake-opposition like the Republicans. We're supposed to roll over like the Republicans have been doing for the last 50 years.

FU Time (didn't know it was still published). We have nothing to lose. You do.

Blogger SemiSpook37 August 18, 2016 3:56 PM  

tublecane wrote:However, the ideas are out there now, like a virus. And future Republican candidates know it's possible to win the nomination without kissing the MSM's ass.

This is just the start of the meltdown. Between this, Gawker shuttering, and Scott Adams rightly calling the week for Trump (with respect to the speeches and the hiring of Bannon and Conway), it's going to be an interesting build up to Labor Day weekend to start September.

Don't just tie this to the GOP, either. I think after the election you'll start to see the two-party dynamic start its slow descent into irrelevance. The delusion that "all is well" coming from the leftist mouthbreathers in the MSM might finally be starting to wear on your average citizen, so much so that the slow drip of newspapers and networks losing audience may burst like an overburdened dam come November.

I know, I know. It's too ideal of a premise to hang on to right now, but you have to admit, it's starting to look like a plausible reality with each passing day.

Blogger Arthur Isaac August 18, 2016 4:09 PM  

Headlinw: "Leaked emails lead to confirmation that politicians a-z and global financiers are guilty of treason/espionage hangings begin on Monday." would be a good evidence of winning in my book.

Blogger Groot August 18, 2016 4:11 PM  

Kryten 2X4B 523P wrote:"Joel Stein writes a weekly column for TIME magazine. His book, Man Made: A Stupid Quest For Masculinity...

From an Amazon review: "Reading about an effeminate sissy trying to learn things he has little interest in or aptitude for was tedious and exhausting."

Anonymous Longtime Lurker August 18, 2016 4:25 PM  

"I don't think of myself so much as a man as a person who happens to have a penis." -Joel Stein

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_XdcRsnoU4

Blogger Krul August 18, 2016 4:27 PM  

@120 - No one else thinks of him as a man either.

Blogger Lovekraft August 18, 2016 4:29 PM  

http://en.kingswiki.com/wiki/Main_Page

Roosh on Return of Kings introducing an sjw list but for journalists/media.

Blogger pyrrhus August 18, 2016 4:47 PM  

Time is a bankrupt entity, not sure who's propping the corpse up....

Blogger Natalie August 18, 2016 4:54 PM  

Slightly OT: this is why when people point and shriek saying Trump isn't in it to win he just wants to build a news empire out of this I always say "Sounds great - I'll take two."Having a well funded and run nationalist leaning news organization would be about as good (or better) than a Trump presidency, but people are pulling their hair out over it for some reason.

Blogger Dennis Dale August 18, 2016 5:02 PM  

They're going to pine for the good old days when they were dealing with the terrible, no-good Religious Right they hated so much, as the Alt-Right is considerably less tolerant and merciful.

They're also longing perhaps for the simple, oh-so-Narrative-friendly technology of broadcast television. Three networks and a handful of local channels used to be all the revolution needed to worry about.

Blogger ace August 18, 2016 5:03 PM  

Every time these clowns do an article on the alt right, they wind up pulling a Bender: "this publication does not endorse the cool ideology of provocateurs."

Anonymous Johnny Appleseed August 18, 2016 5:03 PM  

"The truth is the rule of law exists".

Then why is Hillary Clinton free and Levoy Finicum dead? Why is Yon Horiuchi still breathing?

SJW rule #1.

Blogger JimR August 18, 2016 5:10 PM  

@81
"The truth is the rule of law exists"
If that were the case, Hillary would currently be under indictment

Blogger Cataline Sergius August 18, 2016 5:14 PM  

Rules, Laws, Policies. THESE are the battlegrounds. And you are losing.

Losing? LOSING?!?!? The Cucks like you have already lost all of them.

Not even lost them. People who think like you gave them away and gained nothing in return.

So, yes we're done listening to you and people like you.

Blogger Chent August 18, 2016 5:16 PM  

There is no proof of him having a penis either

Anonymous Type 5 August 18, 2016 5:17 PM  

Starting to have a cuckservative journo-list vibe here all of a sudden.

NPR definitely got the memo. Today, on the drive home, an "expert" was telling about how the Breitbart guy who joined the Trump campaign was balls-deep in this nasty hate movement called the Alt-Right. And GamerGate.

Blogger Chent August 18, 2016 5:18 PM  

There is no proof of him having a penis either

Anonymous VFM #6306 August 18, 2016 5:56 PM  

Lovekraft wrote:I know the debate over semantics is tired and played out. Alt Right works for me. But let's say, for the sake of argument, the State goes full gulag on the Alt Right. If it morphs into this higher ideal - uniting based on solid principles, it exposes the State yet again.

Is it good to have to change and adapt rather than stand our ground? No. But in the immediate future, the reality is that we will need to regroup.


Win Fantasy Football with the Cleveland Indians first, Chief. Baby steps, Mr. Strategy.

Anonymous mature-Craig August 18, 2016 5:56 PM  

yeah, sometimes you have to remind all the crap out there, that it is crap

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 18, 2016 5:58 PM  

Chent wrote:There is no proof of him having a penis either

Well, he does have a son. No, waitaminnit, his wife has a son.
Never mind.

Blogger bob k. mando August 18, 2016 6:00 PM  

VD
You know what comes next. We win.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-gSJW3sHXE

Yes, enemies! We need enemies.

Blogger residentMoron August 18, 2016 6:24 PM  

TIME magazine: advertising on behalf of the CIA since 1953.

Blogger Doktor Jeep August 18, 2016 6:25 PM  

When we're surrounded we don't have to worry about what direction we are shooting at.

When they launch arrows we fight in the shade.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents August 18, 2016 6:30 PM  

@132
There is no proof of him having a penis either

Is this true? Well, that's what I heard!

Blogger Unknown August 18, 2016 6:30 PM  

I had someone on Kotaku In Action run that "better to loose gracefully than compromise my principles" line on me a couple of days ago.
https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/4y0cak/julie_bindelthe_guardiancalls_publicly_for/d6kup3k?context=3
I literally sat there with my mouth open for a bit after I read that.

Anonymous BigGayKoranBurner August 18, 2016 6:36 PM  

His book, Man Made: A Stupid Quest For Masculinity, changes people’s lives."

Its a safe bet (((he))) is smaller than my thumb.

don't worry, he's cucking for Soros in his latest video

I guess he didn't want to end up dead but seriously

No, he is not. He argues Soros is a symptom

He does jewish lightening on a national & worldwide scale for his money. He destroyed the pound sterling for profit, he sold his fellow jews out to Nazis for profit.

If you vaporized Soros, someone else just like him would step into the void.

Take out his kids and grandkids is more important.

minute video illustration of reality vs Narrative regarding Milwaukee's recent race-based bonfire is pretty much IT

CNN edited out the niggerette saying to burn white peoples houses instead during the coverage to make it sound like he was advocating peace.

National Review went full Social Justice Warrior recently and ended anonymous comments

I guess the name William F Cuckly has already been taken on fakebook.

"free Milo" bullshit, or "you are a cuckservative" internet diatribe. MAN UP!

I can certify that not only is Goofilin a faggot but his peener is smaller than my thumb.

not bad for business. The Alt Right is bad for business. You mean crony capitalism not real business.

Blogger bob k. mando August 18, 2016 6:37 PM  

72. professorastro August 18, 2016 2:19 PM
WTF were the original values of the internet? Was the Internet created for the SJWs only?



Internet created by Al Gore ... so therefore, yeah.



107. GracieLou August 18, 2016 3:31 PM
Unlike the virtual gutting, witch-burning and potty mouth I've suffered at the hands of FeMen on Facebook and such.



make me a sammich, wench.




118. Arthur Isaac August 18, 2016 4:09 PM
Headlinw: "Leaked emails lead to confirmation that politicians a-z and global financiers are guilty of treason/espionage hangings begin on Monday." would be a good evidence of winning in my book.



we already know Hillary has committed treason, simply on the basis of her accepting donations to the Clinton Crime Fund in exchange for allowing Russia to own +20% of continental US uranium mining.

whether you like Putin or believe the accusations that he's the NEW HITLER, that is treason on it's face. we are clearly in strategic and diplomatic opposition to Russia on a regular basis and it's patently absurd that Hillary and Obama allowed this to come to fruition.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents August 18, 2016 6:38 PM  

"Well, that's what I heard"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdoBLtLwpQQ

Blogger Doom August 18, 2016 6:47 PM  

I don't think he got alt-right at all correct. And I don't think we* created Trump at all. Trump just designed himself to fit within.

*Of course I am not certain I am alt-right. Anti-feminist? Anti-immigration? Heck, tack on repatriation even back through generations and reverse-grandfather clausing the anchor baby abortion of law. Still, does that make me alt-right? Uhrm, that's a literal question. If anyone will answer to what alt-right is, I would like to know... or hear some serious takes.

Anonymous BGKB August 18, 2016 6:53 PM  

Did you watch the news of what happened to your folks at Oregon and their "armed revolution"?

That was mostly agent provocateurs. They didn't even plan it out, they sent out a request for people to send them vanilla creamer. At the Bundy Ranch, Eric Holder pissed himself and pulled all of his people out after getting an open letter saying NO MORE FREE WACOS. Oregon was called armed insurrection but niggers burning down liquor stores and trashing cop cars in Baltimore over a heroin dealer was a "peaceful protest".

Shout at an immigrant to go back home? Tell a woman that they are less? I shudder!!!!

You are going to hate it when TRUMP gets elected and there is a live game show "CAN YOU GARROTE MORE FELONS THAN A FAGGOT", they will have to let MILO sub for me if there are not many winners.

They always act like it's some kind of He-Man Woman Hater's Club around here but I'm fine, and I bruise easily.

Even our faggots can handle fake blood being thrown at our $10,000+ outfits.

Blogger Robert Divinity August 18, 2016 7:42 PM  

This gem from Tone Chief Detective Stein just can't get enough love:

West says that even though she’s been toughened by all the abuse, she is thinking of writing for TV, where she’s more insulated from online feedback.

Online feedback has been linked to cancer now.

Further up in the story, Chief Detective Stein wrote an informal poll of the Time magazine staff showed 80 percent of the staff had avoided certain issues out of fear of bad on line feedback. The other twenty percent were in war zones and/or Milwaukee.

Anonymous CitizenOutkast August 18, 2016 8:31 PM  

Forgive me for this, as even though I daily read this blog, I never saw the explanation. But why are some names/things written like this: (((Joel Stein))). What is the punctuation supposed to signify? Thanks.

Blogger Krul August 18, 2016 8:36 PM  

@146 Jewish

Blogger Retrenched August 18, 2016 9:23 PM  

"Leftists call you racist and ban you when they know they've lost the debate. Also, alt-righters are a bunch of racists and aren't allowed here" - cucks

Blogger Arthur Isaac August 18, 2016 10:32 PM  

@bob k, the problem isn't in realizing who the traitors are, it the lack of will to treat them as such.

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Anonymous Bell Worthington August 18, 2016 11:29 PM  

"Trolling is, overtly, a political fight."

No. Trolling is a art. Trolling is about as apolitical as it gets. The purpose is to evoke varying degrees of shitstorm for no other reason than the lulz. A troll isn't trying to communicate anything. He's trying to interrupt the normal course of communication because it's funny.

Sick of seeing these idiots try to redefine trolling as people injecting unpopular opinions and truths into opposing communities' smugbubbles. Of course it's no accident that this is the tack they've chosen. They want to equate their political opponents with self-indulgent shit disturbers.

You know you're winning when their next move is to attempt rewriting the meta-narrative.

Anonymous tublecane August 19, 2016 12:21 AM  

@151-I think you define the term too narrowly. Trolls fish for responses to stir up trouble and derail conversations, period. It could be "for the lulz," as is classically the case because most internet troublemakers don't have higher ambitions. It could also be part of a plan to conquer the world and inaugurate the rule of Satan. You don't know.

Anonymous Bell Worthington August 19, 2016 1:23 AM  

@152 I see what you mean... It's true there are many out there trying to shill, slide, "shut it down"... Disrupt conversations because they perceive the very existence of those conversations to be a threat. I'd label those types "agent provocateurs." Every political movement has them.

But the use of the term "trolling" specifically in reference to the emergence of alt-right ideas propagating in the wild is more than simply a more inclusive definition of trolling. It's a rhetorical technique equivalent to "Don't listen to them. They're just angry immature man-children in their basements who fap to anime. Real serious men agree with (((us))) and never rock the boat."

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Blogger vosvos August 19, 2016 2:18 AM  

Funny all the things listed about the alt right that are supposed to be bad I'm just going, mens rights,yeah? immigration,yeah? men who don't hate feminism are cuckolds, yeah? social-justice warriors and liberal interest groups purposely exploit their weakness to gain pity, which allows them to control the levers of power, well yeah and your point is ? Why don't you give a power point presentation on why the alt right movement is right? can you break it down for us and make it any simpler? I mean is this guy a troll?

Anonymous Unamused Flyover Resident August 19, 2016 3:22 AM  

The same Joel Stein who wrote "Who runs Hollywood? C'mon

The (((man))) who wrote:

"...maybe my life spent in a New Jersey-New York/Bay Area-L.A. pro-Semitic cocoon has left me naive. But I don't care if Americans think we're running the news media, Hollywood, Wall Street or the government. I just care that we get to keep running them·"

http://articles.latimes.com/2008/dec/19/opinion/oe-stein19

Joel Stein - and the column he wrote - played a pivotal role in the development of my political beliefs. I pray he may do as much for others.

Anonymous SciVo August 19, 2016 8:21 AM  

Steve wrote:The shoe is now on the other foot, now that anybody with an internet connection can point out that Joel Stein looks like he got arrested for lewd acts at a petting zoo.

Joel Stein looks like she's having second thoughts, is glad that she didn't go through with the surgery yet, and is seriously considering going back to Jill.

Anonymous SciVo August 19, 2016 8:58 AM  

DeeJay wrote:Would it be safe to say that the Alternative Right has pretty much hitched their wagons to Donald Trump's Presidential run at this point? I really have no idea what going to happen in November, but it seems like how he fares there will impact how it's regarded in the future.

No. There is a simple progression to these things, and Trump is exactly what you should expect after the cancellation of the Tea Party. He's more brash in style, but still just a big softie, all in favor of all Americans. If he fails, then there will be a peaceful white nationalist; then after that will come the ultras. The sooner one succeeds, the gentler the future.

Anonymous SciVo August 19, 2016 9:13 AM  

Doom wrote:If anyone will answer to what alt-right is, I would like to know... or hear some serious takes.

Did you not read the recent thread on that?

Anonymous SciVo August 19, 2016 9:41 AM  

CitizenOutkast wrote:What is the punctuation supposed to signify?

There was apparently an app called the Coincidence Detector that would put triple parentheses around Jewish names, to help you notice patterns in things like "hello, fellow white people" op-eds about how "we" (meaning "you") need to do something.

It's normal to develop a culture around language use, even punctuation. For example, you've seen people putting hashtags on hand-written signs, even though you can't click on them. It even works verbally; if you suddenly realize that you just complained about something really trivial like cappuccino temperature, try adding "hashtag first world problems." It can be good for a chuckle.

So anyway, ((())) actually has a literal meaning -- the echo sound effect in the Merchant Minute in the Daily Shoah podcast on The Right Stuff -- but that isn't important. It has an independent cultural meaning now, and people are experimenting with variants, as you would expect. For example, I'm pretty sure that )))((( means non-Jewish white, even though that doesn't make any literal sense. The punctuation subculture is extensible.

Blogger horsewithnonick August 19, 2016 10:13 AM  

He can't even get the Matrix reference right - a drug? really?

Anonymous tublecane August 19, 2016 12:49 PM  

@153-Of course you're right. They're just using it as a weapon to beat us with. The alt-right is no more trollish than any successful internet movement. This article is projection. The left continues to out-provoke us. We may have people like Vox, but they have the ghost of Alinsky, who literally wrote the book.

Anonymous mature craig August 19, 2016 3:42 PM  

Fox news is all right sometimes.....hope everyone is well.



Anonymous Sagramore August 19, 2016 9:45 PM  

@34 But of course.

While I just want to assume this guy is young and hasn't been burned by his mangina nature just yet, something tells me his agent gave him the idea. "All these feminists will buy YOUR BOOK for their soggy kneed boyfriends! You'll make a killing!"

Anonymous Sagramore August 19, 2016 9:53 PM  

@64 Well, as I love to point out, I discovered this place after Scalzi started complaining about it. Thanks John, I owe you some mulch, and I get Erich's position now.

Anonymous andon August 19, 2016 11:48 PM  

The alt-right’s favorite insult is to call men who don’t hate feminism “cucks,” as in “cuckold.”

what do you call this, straw-man?

Anonymous andon August 20, 2016 12:02 AM  

14. Blogger Durandel Almiras August 18, 2016 12:17 PM
....and then goes into left field on some Andrew Auernheimer who is not a major name in alt-Right if at all


I have listened to several podcasts featuring "weev" and I think he does website work for DailyStormer and TRS. He has an interesting story to tell about this govt basically persecuting him because of his racial beliefs

Anonymous tublecane August 20, 2016 12:10 AM  

@164-I still want to know why he links the term to anti-feminism instead of anti-immigration, which is its real home. My guess is it's because he only gets these things secondhand, and every article he's read has related the term to pornography. (Which is by design, in a way, though alt-righters will resent the crude reduction.) Is it too much to expect Time writers to be familiar with the etymologies of popular archaisms?

Anonymous Takin' a Look August 20, 2016 1:14 AM  

Have heart fellows. Whenever anyone attempts to say the Alt-Right is doomed to fail, just look at this Google trends graph. The last 20 months have seen search views skyrocket and it shows absolutely no signs of slowing down. The Enemy is shrieking and freaking.

Anonymous SciVo August 20, 2016 3:50 AM  

andon wrote:what do you call this, straw-man?

No, I call it revealing. What it means is that he sees it as feminist to import alien replacement men en masse. Feminism, globalism, whatever; it's all of a piece.

This is consistent with both the statistical facts of the rapefugee immivasion and the red-pill observation that "Men Invade, Women Invite." So I think we should take his accidental advice and call feminist "men" cucks too, if we don't already; it's not like they don't deserve the insult.

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Blogger Dirk Manly August 20, 2016 8:42 PM  

Gooflin is too stupid to realize that the most extreme alt-right millenials have PERSONAL EXPERIENCE in 4GW (from Iraq and Afghanistan), and have also overcome the taboo against killing people who are merely misbehaving.

After the recruiting phase, the alt-right really doesn't need a "training" phase -- it can then go DIRECTLY to conducting operations.

The left is NOT going to like it. Unlike the 60's radicals, who did too little, in too diffuse of a manner -- once the recent combat vets feel that there is societal approval to clean up OUR society... very few will even have to use up an entire basic load -- for lack of targets.

Why?

Well, as the Swiss diplomat said to the German diplomat (after plans for a 1-million man invasion of Switzerland had somehow been leaked) after being asked how the Swiss could defend themselves with a military amounting to only 0.5 Million when fully mobilized:
"Easy. Shoot two and go home."

Once things get going, the typical alt-Right fighter's biggest problem is going to be a lack of targets. Inner city blacks who DO go in the army or marines rarely go into infantry, cav-scouts or any other similar MOS where the primary tool is small arms. And the combat engineers have even fewer blacks.

As for the (((masters))). They have conveniently grouped themselves in their own (((ghettos))) as well. Expensive ones....but nevertheless, target-rich environments for the first to go in.

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