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Sunday, August 21, 2016

Three hypotheses

In which various explanative hypotheses for the recent black riots are contemplated:
Hypothesis One: Different races—different local varieties of Homo sap., that have followed different paths through evolutionary space for many, many generations, end up with different distributions on most heritable traits. That includes traits of intelligence, behavior, and personality.

So in a multiracial society that rewards certain traits and penalizes others, different races will precipitate out, average-average, at different social levels. American blacks, for example, with low average IQ, low average impulse control, and high average inclinations to antisocial behavior, will tend to pool at the bottom of society, in slums and prisons and criminal gangs.

The blacks thus pooled, being too dimwitted to understand anything about biology or statistics, will attribute their sorry plight to the malice of hostile agents. They’ll develop a lot of anger against those agents, the anger occasionally breaking out in riots.

Their attributing their crappy life outcomes to the machinations of evil agents is itself a hypothesis of course, one that you can set down on the table next to mine. It’s Hypothesis Two.

Here’s one black guy expounding Hypothesis Two last Saturday, one of the Milwaukee rioters.

It’s sad, because, you know, this what happen because they not helping the black community. They, like, you know … The rich people, they got all this money, and they not, like, you know, trying to give us none.

Here’s Hypothesis Three, offered by The New York Times. This one must be serious stuff, backed by rock-ribbed deep social analysis, to be aired in such a prestigious outlet. Right?

Tackling the root causes of crime would be the most effective way to make the community safer and calm tensions, Reggie Moore, Director of Milwaukee’s Office of Violence Prevention, said. “I think it’s a matter of having a dual conversation about what justice needs to look like in this particular situation, but also the broader conversation of what a just community looks like,” Mr. Moore said.

Brilliant! Tackle the root causes of crime! Have a conversation!—a dual conversation! And then a broader conversation!

With a penetrating intellect like Mr. Moore’s on the job, we should have the problem solved in no time. How can it be that, in these fifty years since the long hot summer of 1967, how can it be that no-one ever thought we need to tackle the root causes of crime? And have a conversation? It’s so simple!

So there you are: three hypotheses about what causes riots.

Hypothesis One: cranky old Derb with his stupid, bigoted, so-called “race realism.”
Hypothesis Two: It’s the fault of rich people not giving money to the black community.
Hypothesis Three: It’s our failure to tackle the root causes of crime and to have conversations.

Take your pick.
Well, regardless of which hypothesis is correct, I think we all know what the answer is: education.

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108 Comments:

Blogger Dexter August 21, 2016 9:24 AM  

Hypothesis Four: government and media are whipping up racial unrest for their own nefarious political purposes.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan August 21, 2016 9:28 AM  

Speaking of race real talk, WaPo is running an article today with Jared Taylor as Trump supporter.

Anonymous Cadwallander J August 21, 2016 9:30 AM  

At Trump's event the other night, there were large groups of ferals prowling as the event let out. Faces covered with masks and balaclavas, throwing themselves up against the glass doors, spittle flying from their mouths, and screeching f-bombs - they presented a lovely picture of Hillary's America.

Some attendees were attacked. These courageous masked bandits were filmed punching an elderly white woman repeatedly. These blacks are going to provide an excellent video montage for the Trump campaign to put together.

Blogger wrf3 August 21, 2016 9:38 AM  

It would be entertaining if you and JCW threw down on hypothesis #1, like you did with Dominic regarding the evidence for [Gg]od[s]. According to Wright, there is no genetic component to the way we think.

Anonymous Mister M August 21, 2016 9:43 AM  

"Well, regardless of which hypothesis is correct, I think we all know what the answer is: education."

As a teacher in the 'bad neighborhood' for 20 years, this mantra gets trotted out every year, relentlessly, despite cratering exam marks and increasingly poor academic performance. There is even more contempt for the education provided, which is a new phenomenon. What good is an education if no one wants it? Bill Cosby asked this over 10 years ago, and he took a beating for it.

Anonymous johnc August 21, 2016 9:45 AM  

@3 These blacks are going to provide an excellent video montage for the Trump campaign to put together.

Considering how hard he's trying to get the black vote it might be "bad optics" to highlight such incidents.

Blogger Escoffier August 21, 2016 9:47 AM  

My wife, who fought race realism tooth and nail still found Jared Taylor utterly reasonable the first time we watched him debate a Canadian professor. Which is another way of saying he's gonna make a poor boogey-man for the anti-racist sorts.

Blogger pyrrhus August 21, 2016 9:49 AM  

@4 Remarkable, considering how well established it is that at least 50% of behavior is genetic, while at least 70% of intelligence is inherited.....But I stopped going to Wright's website a while back when his antipathy to actual science became too strong.....

Blogger Brian Thomas August 21, 2016 9:51 AM  

"I think it’s a matter of having a dual conversation about what justice needs to look like in this particular situation, but also the broader conversation of what a just community looks like," Mr. Moore said."

Well, the first thing a "just community" needs is something called the rule of law. The fact that so many in your community have no respect for the rule of law is precisely why they continue to fester and rot.

Blogger Orville August 21, 2016 9:54 AM  

Rule of Law is a cruel myth. It's like Santa Claus, nice to believe in but just not true.

Blogger pyrrhus August 21, 2016 10:01 AM  

A reasonable pretense that Rule of Law applies to everyone is the foundation of American society, not most other societies. That's why it's so important to bring in foreigners, who will accept the trashing of Rule of Law....

Blogger dc.sunsets August 21, 2016 10:03 AM  

We haven't changed much from out primitive forebears. Very few people can be objective when core belief is involved. Herd behavior (the compulsion to fit into your crowd) is unconscious and largely irresistible.

When the phase change occurs, white people who looked at Milwaukee & previously clung to Blank Slate & White Guilt will suddenly reinterpret the same events in a race-realist way. No Kerner Commission will come this time.

The funny thing is that such people will toss their own prior delusions into their personal Memory Hole.

Blogger Matamoros August 21, 2016 10:06 AM  

Blacks were brought to America to be brute labor. They became obsolete with the introduction of mechanization of agriculture.

They should have been repatriated in the 1870s, if not earlier. They still should be deported/repatriated for being anti-American.

Heck, give each of them a $100,000 and send them home to Africa where they can invigorate Africa with their superior genes and money.

Blogger Nick S August 21, 2016 10:08 AM  

Mister M wrote:What good is an education if no one wants it?

You're exactly right. This is one of the things that annoys me the most about the representation of free upper education for everyone as some kind of panacea. It would not benefit the vast majority and would only serve to exacerbate so-called income disparities they decry. Cuckservatives are reluctant to point out the idiocy of left wing reasoning because feelings...I suppose. I have a hard time wrapping my head around the motivations behind some of the willful shallowness.

Anonymous Wyrd August 21, 2016 10:15 AM  

Obviously, the real answer is old-fashioned values like rum, sodomy, and the lash.

Anonymous andon August 21, 2016 10:22 AM  

It’s sad, because, you know, this what happen because they not helping the black community. They, like, you know … The rich people, they got all this money, and they not, like, you know, trying to give us none.

help yourself, idiot

Anonymous Frankenstein McBadperson August 21, 2016 10:26 AM  

I kinda thought the answer was a return to de turrrble turrrble slabery, but maybe I'm just old-fashioned dat way.

Maybe shoah-biz?

Anonymous Eduardo August 21, 2016 10:27 AM  

Berniefication andon, Berniefication

People no longer see capital as the product of one's business decisions, but rather as part of the collective. The collective is one, the collective is all.

Blogger HonorLiving August 21, 2016 10:28 AM  

Those who push for "conversation" usually are: academics, activists groups, think thanks or the media, all of which benefits from said conversation as they are either active participants in them, get paid to produce it or own the arena in which they are supposed to take place.

Not to be a Marxist, but there's something to be said here about the way in which the material conditions of existence of the agent concerned determine the policy response.

This also applies to both blacks and whites, even though it says nothing of the truth of the underlying hypothesis each may propound, but gives us ground for caution. The whites stand to gain from a bio-diversity thesis, as it not only absolves them of responsibility but eliminates the notion that throwing more money at this problem will solve anything, allowing them to keep it. And what do the blacks stand to gain by pushing the malevolence hypothesis but what the whites stand to lose?

Diversity perverts the search for truth by making competing views weapons in the new class warfare.

Anonymous andon August 21, 2016 10:28 AM  

13. Blogger Matamoros August 21, 2016 10:06 AM

Heck, give each of them a $100,000 and send them home to Africa where they can invigorate Africa with their superior genes and money.


how many would accept $100k and can the U.S. afford it? seems like it would cost $4 trillion if they all took it and that $$ would prob invigorate the economy of Africa for quite a while. could be a win-win

Anonymous andon August 21, 2016 10:34 AM  

@ #18 - yeah, I noticed that nobody brings up the cost of anything any more and the invaders are all here to "share" in the prosperity.

Blogger Laguna Beach Fogey August 21, 2016 10:42 AM  

More sportsball.

Anonymous Bobby Farr August 21, 2016 10:44 AM  

And yet there is no sign that daily news of leftist extremists chimping out is lifting Trump's poll numbers. I guess we will have to see whether third worldification of the USA is now complete.

Anonymous Be Not Afraid August 21, 2016 10:46 AM  

>I think we all know what the answer is: education.

For the children!

Blogger TontoBubbaGoldstein August 21, 2016 10:50 AM  

Reggie Moore, Director of Milwaukee’s Office of Violence Prevention, said. “I think it’s a matter of having a dual conversation...

If we can't have, at least, a triple conversation...it ain't worth my time.

[Dick Vitale voice] TRIFECTA, BAYBEEEEEEE!!!!!!

Anonymous Midwit August 21, 2016 10:54 AM  

@19 HonorLiving
This also applies to both blacks and whites, even though it says nothing of the truth of the underlying hypothesis each may propound, but gives us ground for caution. The whites stand to gain from a bio-diversity thesis, as it not only absolves them of responsibility but eliminates the notion that throwing more money at this problem will solve anything, allowing them to keep it. And what do the blacks stand to gain by pushing the malevolence hypothesis but what the whites stand to lose?

Which is exactly the questions we should be asking. It makes the case for anti-diversity. Which is not to say that people groups of different characteristics are to be less valued, only that they do not mix well.

Churchians especially have a difficult time with this concept. I once asked a churchian diversity activist why she worked so tirelessly to promote diversity. Her answer was, "Because Heaven will be like that."

That may very well be, but Earth is not Heaven, and until the Second Coming, it will remain in the fallen condition.

The Derb's column was very enlightening. I have not paid much attention to diverse societies outside of North America or the countries that the USA chooses to bomb for whatever reason. Strife between people groups seems pretty much to be a constant no matter where you go. that being said, why is the world so hell bent on ignoring it?

Anonymous VFM #6306 August 21, 2016 10:58 AM  

Seriously though, have we even tried giving them more Hugo Awards?

I bet they'd stop rioting for some plastic rocket ships.

Blogger residentMoron August 21, 2016 11:06 AM  

"... I think we all know what the answer is: education."

Come on, I'm not falling for that one. You know the real answer is actually Respect!

We gots ta respek de shit outta dese bruddahs.

In any case, you know as well as I that hypothesis 3 is identical to hypothesis 2 one you strip it of its euphemistic obfuscation. That's what a modern education does to a hopeless idiot; gives them a mouthful of five dollar phrases for disguising their 2 cents worth of bullshit.

Blogger praetorian August 21, 2016 11:07 AM  

My wife, who fought race realism tooth and nail still found Jared Taylor utterly reasonable the first time we watched him debate a Canadian professor.

Taylor is great. He's absorbed a lot of purity-spiral fire from the fashier end of the nationalist movement, but he, either by temperament or by plan (probably both) has stayed almost supernaturally calm and civil. We need bomb throwers & /pol/, we need TRS, we need the Richard Spencers, we need the Greg Johnsons and we sure as shit need Jared Taylor.

Blogger pyrrhus August 21, 2016 11:10 AM  

@20 Just print $4 trillion in a special currency with MLK on the 100 and give it to them when they're on the boat....what difference does it make, LOL?

Anonymous BGKB August 21, 2016 11:23 AM  

punching an elderly white woman repeatedly. These blacks are going to provide an excellent video montage for the Trump campaign

How many stations would show the ad?

Well, the first thing a "just community" needs is something called the rule of law.

Its easy to have rule of law where Asians and Whites behave typically. Its easy to have cheap health care when Asians and Whites don't use much healthcare until they near Medicare age.

Obviously, the real answer is old-fashioned values like rum, sodomy, and the lash.

No lash for me.

how many would accept $100k and can the U.S. afford it?

Cheaper than paying for 15-21 crackbabies. Remember AIDS meds run $2-$5k a month so it could pay for itself in 2 years.

“I think it’s a matter of having a dual conversation...If we can't have, at least, a triple conversation...it ain't worth my time

Over 9000 conversation. Why not octoconversations?

OT: Went to an amusement park yesterday with my "White Privilege" shirt dozens of people said they liked it and saw 2 jewyjew ugly faces. No non Asian minorities appeared literate enough to understand it. I did notice that I was scanning like the sociopath discussion, is there a difference between sociopathic scanning and "around blacks never relax"?

Blogger FrankNorman August 21, 2016 11:24 AM  

Anyone want to discuss the idea that American blacks have poor impulse control/etc due to deficiencies in their diet, especially in childhood?
Too much fried chicken and not enough fish oil or vegetables.

Could it be that simple?

Blogger John Williams August 21, 2016 11:26 AM  

Heck, give each of them a $100,000 and send them home to Africa...
You do realize that you're threatening to unemploy millions in the federal government? For that reason alone (among many others) it'll never happen.

Blogger HonorLiving August 21, 2016 11:29 AM  

@26 why is the world so hell bent on ignoring it?

Not the world, just the west. We know why immigrants want a "diverse" society: it's. because it benefits them. But as for the whites, the material advantages are non existent and so the answer has to be ideological. (Socio-material factors, like school programs and government orientation, are included in those "ideological" factors.)

You will never fail to hit the brainwashing when you ask someone "Why do you promote diversity? What does it even do?"

I'm starting to suspect that you will invariably get a vague reference to an utopic state which has no basis in reality. I basically got a similar response to the one you got when asking a secular person why she believed in "diversity" as a value.

"Because I believe in that song, you know? You know the song?" She was referring to "Imagine" by John Lennon, which paints the secular "paradise" your friend was thinking of.

It's unclear, however, why the utopia has to have this (diversitopian) particular form. Presumably, it could very well be anything else. That's usually the point at which someone pops up to say that (((they))) are responsible, but please spare me.

Blogger Josh August 21, 2016 11:36 AM  

Hypothesis one plus a society that doesn't recognize hypothesis one

Blogger pyrrhus August 21, 2016 11:36 AM  

O/T Check out some of the comments on the Fed's new FB page....http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-21/fed-launches-facebook-page-and-result-not-what-it-had-expected

Blogger Josh August 21, 2016 11:37 AM  

But as for the whites, the material advantages are non existent and so the answer has to be ideological. (Socio-material factors, like school programs and government orientation, are included in those "ideological" factors.)

There are tremendous material advantages for the subset of white elites that benefit from cheap labor and globalization.

Blogger LP9 Solidified in Gold! Rin Integra August 21, 2016 11:38 AM  

Tribal times ripe for rioting, I guess chaos likes it. But why attack, spit on, destroy property? its either pure evil or severe stupidity, I suggest the latter.

So great, so beautiful, I mean the girl. Detroit at night per HauteDamn; two epic terms she utilized; shitlordette and cuck.

https://twitter.com/hautedamn/status/766442356233019392

Even more wonderful content for the Trump campaign is the lack of trust and complete resentment awake citizenry hold towards the msm media of lies

http://nypost.com/2016/08/21/american-journalism-is-collapsing-before-our-eyes/

Anonymous kfg August 21, 2016 11:41 AM  

"The funny thing is that such people will toss their own prior delusions into their personal Memory Hole."

First they laugh at you, then they fight you, then they claim it was their idea all along.

"They should have been repatriated in the 1870s, if not earlier."

Search terms for the day are " American Colonization Society" And "Liberia."

Anonymous James Parliament August 21, 2016 11:41 AM  

"Those who push for "conversation" usually are:"

Leftists when they realize they're losing.

Anonymous BGKB August 21, 2016 11:42 AM  

Heck, give each of them a $100,000 and send them home to Africa...

For anyone new to the site, a single mom is better off on welfare than earning $69,000 a year. How many non Asian minorities could earn that much without affirmative action?
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-05-30/how-legally-scam-welfare-system

Obama is apparently calling for a huge increase in welfare benefits for minors, who according to the Washington Examiner, are often being used by their illegal immigrant parents for household income:
The new report follows another that found President Obama seeking $17,613 for every new illegal minor, more than Social Security retirees get.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-05-22/immigrants-dwarf-american-households-welfare-obama-seeks-17k-every-illegal-minor

Blogger Elder Son August 21, 2016 11:53 AM  

"Those who push for "conversation" usually are:" Pushing for GroupThink.

Blogger HonorLiving August 21, 2016 11:59 AM  

@37

Very well. But on a day to day basis these are not the people with whom one usually argues. I've never had diner with George Soros, Mark Zuckerberg or Bill Gates.

What requires an explanation isn't the existence of the capital holder who sees great benefits to the importation of labor or the politician seeking to expand its voter base, for their interest is immediately apparent, but rather that of the nu-male cuck who stands to gain nothing from diversity save for the narcissistic validation of being able to state that he's not like one of "those" racist.

Ideas and symbols do not only have a truth value but a social one as well, so that we may explain the popularity of an idea not only by its truth but rather by the social value it has at any given moment. Yet, once that is said, it is still left to be explained in what does this social value consist and how it is generated. Some of it may have to do with truth, but more fundamentally it must have to do with the social effect the expression of said idea has. In concrete term, it corresponds to the difference between getting 1k retweet for the expression of a certain opinion versus getting unfollowed by half of your fan base and having insults hurled at you.

The rich minority of the world probably isn't swayed by this kind of process, but the average middle class voter is.

Anonymous Joe Blowe August 21, 2016 12:05 PM  

"I think it’s a matter of having a dual conversation about what justice needs to look like in this particular situation,"

Yet were never hear what justice is supposed to look like. We only get vague slogans and platitudes. How is that going to help a cop on the beat trying to arrest a suspect that doesn't want to be arrested? What I gather from the words and actions of these black malcontents and their libtard enablers is that they don't want to be subject to the laws and morals of Western, i.e. White, Civilization but they want to enjoy all the convenience and comforts it provides, free of charge of course. Fred Reed expands on this further
http://fredoneverything.org/questions-for-black-lives-matterthe-case-for-separation/
I agree with him. The solution is not "justice" but divorce.

Blogger LP9 Solidified in Gold! Rin Integra August 21, 2016 12:08 PM  

It is interesting that virtually no black people are burning, roiting at, protesting schoolz and scam artist colleges. Nope, just Caucasian entranced or bewitched sjw whom need safe spaces or start throwing fits.

I missed a basic point, hypo 1 seems most fitting; "with low average IQ, low average impulse control, and high average inclinations to antisocial behavior, will tend to pool at the bottom of society, in slums and prisons and criminal gangs"

Anonymous #8601 August 21, 2016 12:10 PM  

Damn the whites and their high IQ's and damn the blacks and their fast legs. The Olympic track events just aren't fair, man!

And to make it worse, the Africans mow have dudes running as women. Did you see the 800 meter final last night? Three African dudes finished one, two and three while the hot white female had to settle for fourth place. Sad!

Anonymous Frankenstein McBadperson August 21, 2016 12:27 PM  

"I've never had dinner with George Soros, Mark Zuckerberg or Bill Gates."

I know a person who works in finance, who actually did have dinner with Soros. My question was, Why didn't you kill him when you had the chance?

Blogger David Power August 21, 2016 12:33 PM  

@34

"That's usually the point at which someone pops up to say that (((they))) are responsible, but please spare me."

No


"Jewish people are most visible and vulnerable, and therefore least powerful, in racially and culturally homogeneous societies. They are less visible and vulnerable, and therefore more powerful, in racially and culturally pluralistic societies... Jews have promoted multiculturalism not merely for ethnic self-defense, but to attain ethnic power. Multiculturalism has not produced a society where no ethnic group is dominant. It has merely replaced white hegemony with Jewish hegemony, for Jews are the arbiters of multiculturalism. For Jews, black empowerment is not an end in itself, but a tool of Jewish empowerment. Black advancement empowers Jews by breaking down white ethnic solidarity and crowding whites out of positions of power and influence. Jews have created an imaginary world of black empowerment and white dispossession because they know that movies shape the real world. As Plato said, ‘Those who tell the stories rule society.’ The host of fictional black presidents has finally made possible a real one. But the puppet masters in both worlds remain the same." - Edmund Connelly, Understanding Hollywood Part III

Blogger Thucydides August 21, 2016 12:39 PM  

We can have a long conversation about how the political class is taking money from the lower and middle classes and giving it to their politically connected cronies as being one of the causes of class resentment, lower economic opprtunity and diminished economic growth as well.

Or we can go with the idea of lamp posts and rope, since it eliminates long fruitless conversations about cause and goes directly to creating effects to counter the problems that have been identified.

FTFY Mr. Moore.

Blogger HonorLiving August 21, 2016 12:41 PM  

@49

The idea that resentment against diversity is in the end caused by the economic elite is a pipe dream of the left. They hate the economic elite AND homogeneity, so that they're more than happy to ascribe another evil to the former while being allowed to dismiss the concerns relating to the later.

It's one of the most self-serving ideological move around.

Blogger Sheila4g August 21, 2016 12:55 PM  

@26 Midwit: "I once asked a churchian diversity activist why she worked so tirelessly to promote diversity. Her answer was, "Because Heaven will be like that."

I got a similar response when I explained to one gentleman that the enormous church he attended was just too big for my comfort zone. His response was "Well, then you're not going to be very comfortable in heaven."

When did that conception of heaven - a multicultural mass - become so dominant? Why is a desire for space, or privacy, or quiet, now considered un-Christian by churchians?

@48 David Power: Excellent quote.

Blogger Paul Leavenworth August 21, 2016 1:13 PM  

The only thing that would work better than that dual conversation thing would be a march. A March For Justice And Racial Healing. Has anyone thought of that?

Also more money for dem programs.

Blogger Salt August 21, 2016 1:21 PM  

Well, regardless of which hypothesis is correct, I think we all know what the answer is

EBT cards and a Cadillac in every driveway


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Blogger Whisker biscuit August 21, 2016 1:40 PM  

If Trump can't win, and win decisively, with this toxic leftist environment and a democratic rival that has one foot in the grave and the other propped up on a stool, then the country is beyond repair. She's that bad; but if 50% of the population want her to ride the beast, then the GOP is useless no matter who it is.

We will see.

Blogger HonorLiving August 21, 2016 1:59 PM  

@55

Saviors from the top aren't real so Trump isn't as important as we might think. Social revivals start from the bottom up.

Blogger bob k. mando August 21, 2016 2:12 PM  

32. FrankNorman August 21, 2016 11:24 AM
Could it be that simple?



in EVERY society in which they have any significant presence, Blacks make up the most violent and criminal demographic. also, among the least intelligent.

this includes Third World nations in which everyone eats foods they hunted or gathered themselves and in which they don't even have access to fried chicken.

so, while your hypothesis may have some merits towards explaining greater Black criminality today vs Black criminality of the 1960s, the over arching problem of excessive criminality vs all other races still remains, regardless of culture, religion or diet.

Anonymous Reality August 21, 2016 2:23 PM  

Anyone want to discuss the idea that American blacks have poor impulse control/etc due to deficiencies in their diet, especially in childhood?

Not really. African blacks also have poor impulse control.

Too much fried chicken and not enough fish oil or vegetables.
Could it be that simple?


Lower IQ, weaker impulse control and higher Testosterone than whites or Asians. Yes, it is that simple.

Blogger The Kurgan August 21, 2016 2:26 PM  

education

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Anonymous Eric the Red August 21, 2016 2:27 PM  

On one hand is the pristine pseudo-moral fantasy of diversity-on-earth; on the other hand is automatic shaming by shrieking "racist". It's a psychological one-two punch, but there must be some way to counteract it, again on some deep-seated psychological level. However at the moment, I haven't yet discovered it.

Anonymous tublecane August 21, 2016 2:32 PM  

@19-What material conditions? Are their thoughts corrupted by the particles they inhale coming off the ivy that covers their walls? Or are you saying academics, like other humans, are self-interested and don't promulgate ideas dispassionately. What's Marxist about that? You didn't even go so far as to say they constituted a class with a particular ideology. But even if you had, that still wouldn't necessarily make it Marxist.

It's like how people pretend everyone thought they were perfectly conscious of everything before Freud. What nonsense. Marx didn't invent the idea that people rationalize on the basis of paychecks.

Anonymous Napoleon 12pdr August 21, 2016 2:32 PM  

Hypothesis 1a.

Inherent low IQ, poor impulse control...but abetted by a welfare state that makes it more profitable to get a welfare than a job, trade policies that export the low-skill jobs they can do, and politicians encouraging the tantrums.

Anonymous Gordian August 21, 2016 2:33 PM  

@51 That's funny, because last I checked, Christ is building us a house, not a mega-auditorium, in heaven. I already know what sign I'm putting up when I get there: Do Not Tread on the Lawn.

Blogger TontoBubbaGoldstein August 21, 2016 2:36 PM  


I got a similar response when I explained to one gentleman that the enormous church he attended was just too big for my comfort zone. His response was "Well, then you're not going to be very comfortable in heaven."

When did that conception of heaven - a multicultural mass - become so dominant?


Maybe Heaven and Hell are the same place with the same people and the difference is only your perspective?

Blogger Cecil Henry August 21, 2016 2:52 PM  

The answer is always MORE of what they're selling (and you MUST pay for)

The question never asked: how does this effect Whites, their interests, their resources, their future. Should they tolerate it, should they be compensated??

Of course for a liberal, its always OTHER White people that have the problem, not themselves.

Anonymous BGKB August 21, 2016 3:00 PM  

They hate the economic elite AND homogeneity

They blame whites instead of the (((elite))) and as long as one gay cake lay unbaked the fight against the 0.000001% can wait.

A March For Justice And Racial Healing. Has anyone thought of that?

Those don't work out as well as they sound http://downtrend.com/71superb/anti-violence-march-ends-with-a-shooting-death

just too big for my comfort zone. His response was "Well, then you're not going to be very comfortable in heaven."

Does xe think that the rice-Christians(including most Mexicans) will get in? I guess because he hears about all the blacks shot dead by cops at 3am on their way to church he must believe they are all devout, but not even all priests will make it.

Anonymous andon August 21, 2016 3:19 PM  

seems like the only hope is for the money to run out

Anonymous andon August 21, 2016 3:22 PM  

62. Anonymous Gordian August 21, 2016 2:33 PM
@51 That's funny, because last I checked, Christ is building us a house....


is that Christ or Santa Claus?

Anonymous Disciple of Kek August 21, 2016 3:49 PM  

Since the 90s, mainstream hip-hop went from having more of a positive message to glorifying crime, drugs, sex, the "thug life." That has undoubtedly played a big role. Then we also have a culture that emphasizes mindless reaction over contemplation, and blaming externals over looking inward.

Combine this with the previously mentioned factors, and the weaponizes social media, thanks to George Soros and the globalist divide-and-conquerors, and you get a total shit show of inhuman stupidity and violence.

Anonymous mature craig August 21, 2016 3:56 PM  

In my experience black people have been way beyond cool and awesome to me in all my direct interactions with them i give them a flawless perfect score of 100. Even when i was a jerk to them on some occasions they were cool to me...White people i would give a 78

Anonymous mature craig August 21, 2016 4:04 PM  

May i be cursed even more if i let one incident that was my fault.ever cause me to even think anything wrong anout all the fine Africans out there

Anonymous mature craig August 21, 2016 4:23 PM  

And one last Vox you should try to be more like the way you were in 2004-06..awesome.. You arevstill awesome but while.letting every joe schmo like with internet aceess is cool and pro freedom and all but i think it distracts u and takes u off your most optimal course ithink u r better off being more selective with whom u interact with and doing whats best for you

Anonymous The Three Hypotheses Problem August 21, 2016 4:53 PM  

Anyone want to discuss the idea that American blacks have poor impulse control/etc due to deficiencies in their diet, especially in childhood?

No. Africans in Africa have poor impulse control, too. Read the article linked to, the third riot is Africans in Australia along with Pacific Islanders.

Too much fried chicken and not enough fish oil or vegetables.
Could it be that simple?


Not enough impulse control, a mean IQ of 85 and more Testosterone than whites or asians. It could be that simple? Yes. It could be that simple.

Anonymous KitF August 21, 2016 5:22 PM  

John Williams wrote:Heck, give each of them a $100,000 and send them home to Africa...

You do realize that you're threatening to unemploy millions in the federal government? For that reason alone (among many others) it'll never happen.

You could tell them they were all going to the new African state of Utopia where they will be doing the same jobs for twice the money in half the hours. With the MLK money and no whites, it can only be a land of weaves and purple drank*.

*Can someone kindly explain what 'purple drank' is to an ignorance Englander?

Anonymous BGKB August 21, 2016 5:29 PM  

*Can someone kindly explain what 'purple drank' is to an ignorance Englander?

Purple Drank is what you get when you mix DXM cough syrup with Arizona Iced Tea Watermelon Flavor and either Skittles or Jolly Ranchers. Its also called Poor Mans PCP, the TRAYVON MARTIN autopsy showed signs of DXM abuse and he had skittles & the Watermelon Ice Tea on him when he chimped out on George Z. There is a rap song by the same name that explains making it.

Anonymous BGKB August 21, 2016 5:32 PM  

Olney's lesions are the sign of DXM abuse

Blogger dienw August 21, 2016 5:55 PM  

@55. Whisker biscuit
Here are the real poll numbers. Pay attention to what is being written about the voting machine fraud.

Anonymous Alice De Goon August 21, 2016 5:56 PM  

It would be entertaining if you and JCW threw down on hypothesis #1, like you did with Dominic regarding the evidence for [Gg]od[s]. According to Wright, there is no genetic component to the way we think.

Wright is also a man who thinks the current Pope isn't a demon-infested Marxist, and is instead merely being "mis-interpreted" by the press. It's funny because JCW in one of his columns, came up with the idea of the Brain Fungus - a small part of every person's brain that harbors a deep attachment to irrational and untrue thoughts and which cannot be led into reason no matter what. The nature of what this deep attachment is depends entirely on what part of the brain has been taken over by the "fungus". (I guess we know which parts of JCW's brain have been taken over...)

Mister M wrote:
What good is an education if no one wants it?


Education in America today isn't supposed to benefit the students. It's supposed to benefit the bureaucrats and the teachers who run the Education Racket and the big government that the Education Racket shills for.

And yet there is no sign that daily news of leftist extremists chimping out is lifting Trump's poll numbers.

Poll numbers are about as accurate as tea leaves in interpreting Trump's level of support. Actually I'd trust the tea leaves more, since they aren't in the play of the Democrat/MSM Propaganda Machine.

Obama is apparently calling for a huge increase in welfare benefits for minors, who according to the Washington Examiner, are often being used by their illegal immigrant parents for household income.

If I had a Time Machine, my first act would not be to go back and kill Hitler as a child, it would be to infect Obama's whore mother with AIDS just before she's able to conceive him.

On one hand is the pristine pseudo-moral fantasy of diversity-on-earth; on the other hand is automatic shaming by shrieking "racist". It's a psychological one-two punch, but there must be some way to counteract it, again on some deep-seated psychological level. However at the moment, I haven't yet discovered it.

Tell your Churchian friends that a Hippy monoculural utopia where there are no more differences would entail wiping out everyone's cultural heritage and imposing totalitarian norms of behavior on them. Then ask them why they hate black people so much that they'd want to wipe out their unique cultural heritage and identity. Tell them your ideal vision of Heaven is like a series of different flavored ice cream cone scoops, where people live among their own kind treating the aesthetics and beliefs that have been passed down to them by their ancestors like valuable heirlooms. Then tell your friends their monocultural view of Heaven is like mixing all of the flavors of ice cream together to create a tasteless sludge. If that's what Heaven is like, I'd gladly take Hell.









Anonymous andon August 21, 2016 6:28 PM  

I heard some jew on Red Ice Radio the other day claiming that the real science shows Europeans and Africans diverged over 100,000 years ago and that mainstream scientists are lying about it.

Anonymous God Hates Cucks August 21, 2016 6:28 PM  

"I once asked a churchian diversity activist why she worked so tirelessly to promote diversity. Her answer was, "Because Heaven will be like that."

I got a similar response when I explained to one gentleman that the enormous church he attended was just too big for my comfort zone. His response was "Well, then you're not going to be very comfortable in heaven."

Are they married, or condone mirage? Than they are either inconsistent or hypocrites :

Matthew 22:30
For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.

Also:
Isaiah 11:6
The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.

Do they let their kids play around lions? Cause thats what heaven will be like.

Anonymous andon August 21, 2016 6:35 PM  

"I once asked a churchian diversity activist why she worked so tirelessly to promote diversity. Her answer was, "Because Heaven will be like that."

sounds more like hell to me

Blogger James Dixon August 21, 2016 6:51 PM  

> Well, regardless of which hypothesis is correct, I think we all know what the answer is: education.

Well, the education of broader society about the nature of the problem is proceeding apace, so perhaps you are correct.

> Too much fried chicken...

You cannot have too much fried chicken.

Anonymous stress management August 21, 2016 7:00 PM  

My favorite example for deflating cuckChurchian delusions on race: Haiti

Wealth-producing colonial powerhouse under the French, black-ruled since 1804 with virtually no whites around because they genocided the white population immediately after taking power. After 212 years of black ruled independence, it remains a helpless, primitive, African style mess. So - how do you blame whitey for that one?


@26 Midwit, @51 Sheila4g, @76 God Hates Cucks - I once listened to a missionary explain how they went down every year to build water filters for the Haitians, made from barrels filled with layers of sand. Then she asked for volunteers to go down every year and maintain the barrels for the natives - because they were either too stupid, or too lazy, to refill the barrels with clean sand.


Anonymous Obviousness August 21, 2016 7:23 PM  

Then she asked for volunteers to go down every year and maintain the barrels for the natives - because they were either too stupid, or too lazy, to refill the barrels with clean sand.

Or the natives knew full well that whites would come every year to service their water filter, so why bother doing it themselves?

Blogger ace August 21, 2016 7:44 PM  

The really tragic/hilarious part is that, when the worm turns, we'll be the moderates. We might even wind up dead.

Blogger Aeoli Pera August 21, 2016 8:18 PM  

We'll need a facility for all of the people who require education, perhaps some form of camp...

Anonymous Avalanche August 21, 2016 9:59 PM  

@31 " is there a difference between sociopathic scanning and "around blacks never relax"?"

Not when you realize that the 'scanning' is part of the 'never relax'!

Anonymous Avalanche August 21, 2016 10:14 PM  

@63 "Maybe Heaven and Hell are the same place with the same people and the difference is only your perspective?

Oh my God: THAT is terrifying!

Blogger dfordoom August 21, 2016 10:15 PM  

@34. HonorLiving

But as for the whites, the material advantages are non existent and so the answer has to be ideological.

Psychological rather than ideological. It's that bottomless pit of guilt.

Until white people can be persuaded to stop wallowing in guilt nothing can be achieved. Somehow white people have to be made to understand that the white people living on the planet today were not responsible for Hitler and slavery.

Considering how poorly educated most people today are I'm not optimistic this can be done. I suspect that the average Millennial thinks slavery ended in the 1960s.

The great thing about guilt is that it's transferable. If you're a wealthy urban white SJW you just transfer the guilt onto badwhites (and curiously enough the badwhites usually happen to be poor or working class or rural whites). So you can absolve yourself of the guilt and even better you can cleanse yourself entirely of the Original Sin of whiteness and not have to worry about being a rich white person living in an all-white community.

It's a very Christian thing. Every white person is guilty, except for the Elect who know they are Saved.

Anonymous Eric the Red August 21, 2016 10:45 PM  

Shaming works only if the perpetrators are assumed to have moral authority. Generic solutions:
- shift moral authority from, in this case, leftists;
- instead of moral authority, leftists are seen as buffoons, or evil, or narcissists, or etc.

Anonymous andon August 21, 2016 10:49 PM  

@ dfordoom

Until white people can be persuaded to stop wallowing in guilt nothing can be achieved.

how do you get there? we seem to be in some kind of trance

The great thing about guilt is that it's transferable. If you're a wealthy urban white SJW you just transfer the guilt onto badwhites (and curiously enough the badwhites usually happen to be poor or working class or rural whites).

sounds like what jews do when they blather on about "white privilege"

Anonymous Frankenstein McBadperson August 21, 2016 11:44 PM  

"It's like how people pretend everyone thought they were perfectly conscious of everything before Freud. What nonsense."

Sounds like somebody never read Shakespeare, the Greek tragedians, or Nietzsche.

I think "The Interpretation of Dreams" is fascinating but also subject to criticism. The rest of the guy's ideas are, well, (((food for thought))).

Blogger HonorLiving August 21, 2016 11:59 PM  

@85

Guilt is an effect, which immediately raises the question of what its cause may be.

Well, I do not have a definitive answer to this and, once again, to be sure, some people may pop up to speak of (((they))), and I suppose they must be forgiven.

But let me offer an observation. Christianity promoted the giving of alms, yes because Jesus commanded it, yes because it brings one closer to God, yes because it promotes the moderation of material needs by diminishing the power they have over us, but I would suggest a further evolutionary advantage.

Self-licensing is the idea that doing something which makes us feel virtuous may in the end causes us to engage in more self-indulgent behavior because our earlier good deed helps us balance our moral books. Consider the average upper middle class white person today. Consider the fact that the wealth which he enjoys has been largely unearned. Consider furthermore that, while he has done nothing in order to gain it, he is nevertheless told to profit from it, hedonistic consumerist lifestyle oblige. Giving alms and self-sacrificing in the service of somebody else is a foreign concept to him.

Could it be that all of this unearned advantage causes him a tremendous amount of unconscious guilt? This has nothing to do with brainwashing and manipulation now, or at the very least not directly. Yet could it not be that these people who enjoy the benefit of a good life largely having done nothing to earn it decide, as a result, to sacrifice their people in the service of assuaging a guilty conscience the cause of which they aren't even aware of, and could it be that alms giving, and the emphasis on the fallen nature of man in Christianity, even though it has as a presupposition the guilt of the Christian, actually makes the believer more sane, more self-preserving, by giving a reasonable outlet for man's altruistic impulses? Why is it always the "poor redneck" who is associated with anti-immigration sentiment, while it is the rich, estrogen rich cuck, who sings the praise of diversity in what sounds like an exculpatory death hymn? We know of displaced anger, but could there be displaced guilt?

Perhaps material wealth corrupts, and unearned material wealth destroys. Not society, to be sure, but part of the psyche and the character of those who inherit it.



Blogger Robert Divinity August 22, 2016 12:05 AM  

seems like the only hope is for the money to run out

Then we are without hope. The money ran out some time back.

My favorite example for deflating cuckChurchian delusions on race: Haiti

Derb's example of the recently arrived South Sudanese/Pacific Islander race riots in Melbourne probably is the best illustration possible. In addition to no history of slavery or Jim Crow, Derb left out one other major detail: in Australia generally, and Melbourne in particular, a black or a Pacific Islander who arrived since the Eighties was singled out for preferential and otherwise particularly good treatment. The Melbourne riot is a fantastic example of genetics at work. The groups in that riot coalition have IQs that hit in roughly the same ranges, too.

Considering how poorly educated most people today are I'm not optimistic this can be done. I suspect that the average Millennial thinks slavery ended in the 1960s.

I don't have the link immediately available, but a recent poll of American graduate students showed a majority believed slavery only existed in the United States.

(and curiously enough the badwhites usually happen to be poor or working class or rural whites)

In a braver time the SJW precursors blamed their parents, but now they live in their basements.

Blogger Robert Divinity August 22, 2016 12:15 AM  

Why is it always the "poor redneck" who is associated with anti-immigration sentiment, while it is the rich, estrogen rich cuck, who sings the praise of diversity in what sounds like an exculpatory death hymn? We know of displaced anger, but could there be displaced guilt?

You are onto something here. Further, what a disgusting, cowardly act of extirpation--so project your own guilt onto someone else who is relatively defenseless to correct the record.

Blogger tz August 22, 2016 12:33 AM  

Observation:
We aren't color/race/etc. blind.
We reward bad behaviors differently. Single white career women who decide to be single Mothers (see: Murphy Brown) don't get the same benefits as Juanita the illegal or a black inner city single mother.

I would observe white women behave badly too, but as they have more to lose they don't go as far.

That said, white sluts have more resources, so can be a little bad sans the taxpayer.

The question is if there was no welfare, only Christian (not churchian) charity available to all races of women, who would continue to behave sinfully, badly?

Note the gated community white liberals are the ones promoting the abortion holocaust, Keynesianism, negative interest rates and Modern monetary theory, and the command and control socialism. Somehow I find it hard to laugh at "Missionaries" excepting that I'd find even worse irony and evil in Seattle. I doubt the "primitives" in the satire are 1. Atheists, 2. pro-Abortion, or 3. have fraudulent economic things like a fiat currency or fractional reserve banking.

It requires the higher IQ of whites to become demons instead of mere bad animals.

Anonymous andon August 22, 2016 12:36 AM  

I notice this kind of thing more and more often:

White Trash: The 400-Year Untold History of Class in America (Hardcover Edition)
by Nancy Isenberg

wonder if I, as a whitey, could publish a book "What's wrong with hook-nosed jews"

Blogger Groot August 22, 2016 1:50 AM  

Frankenstein McBadperson wrote:I kinda thought the answer was a return to de turrrble turrrble slabery, but maybe I'm just old-fashioned dat way.

Maybe shoah-biz?


Frankenstein McBadperson wrote:"I've never had dinner with George Soros, Mark Zuckerberg or Bill Gates."

I know a person who works in finance, who actually did have dinner with Soros. My question was, Why didn't you kill him when you had the chance?


This is either a paid troll or a sociopath. Slavery and murder, so funny. And look at the handle. Moderators, my spider sense is tingling. Just my 2¢. No immediate danger, just fair warning. I'm rarely wrong on these things, IRL.

Blogger Michael Maier August 22, 2016 3:10 AM  

I "respect" da bruthas enough that if I'm armed and they "front", I'm going to respect that they're serious and respond accordingly.

Blogger Ivan J August 22, 2016 3:15 AM  

I will have to side with Bill Cosby, and Thomas Sowell. It is their culture. They work very hard to be ignorant, and they are proud of it.

As far as solutions go, I think several things, all of which would need to be done.
1. Completely destroy American "black culture".
2. Completely destroy the unionized public education. Deport those America hating SJWs to Iran. They can stick flowers into the the Iranian gun barrels.
3. Take away television. The rank propaganda is unbelievable. They might even start reading.
4. Eliminate the welfare state. This props it all up so take away its legs.

The author Jason L. Reily did suggest that we study black families who seem to thrive in those awful neighborhoods, schools, etc. and become successful. I think Ben Carson would qualify as one of those people. Think of them as cultural antibodies. Unfortunately, they seem more like the good Germans in Nazi Germany.

As far as low IQ goes, I am sure there are both generic and environmental factors. I don't question the SJW hippie powers to stupify otherwise intelligent people. When I see the so called protesters (rioters) demand concessions, I think of Ayn Rand's comprachicos. These are mentally mutiliated people with no hope of recovery. I even see it in the whole transgendering thing. It is a freak show through and through.

Blogger The Overgrown Hobbit August 22, 2016 3:34 AM  

Hypothesis 4: If you raise children like wolves, you will achieve a feral populace.

I point you to the chavs in England, the "white trash" in Pennsylvania, and the Ozarks, and the children brought over from the various slav orphanages.

No amount of superior genetic heritage will save you from this phenomenon. Nor will an inferior one prevent you from escaping it, if you recognize the truth of what is happening and act accordingly.

For the love of God, people, why are you so willing to write off so many human beings (of white, and non-white race) for this crackpot theory?

Anonymous KitF August 22, 2016 5:22 AM  

@71 BGKB

Ah! Thank you most kindly. I remember the St Skittles references to that little thug. Since I also recall the madness that actual PCP has been known to induce, it's obviously a recipe to make a person very calm and rational. And I thought Americans had trouble getting hold of legitimate anti-hayfever meds because of illicit users.

Blogger dfordoom August 22, 2016 6:29 AM  

@ Ivan J

Eliminate the welfare state. This props it all up so take away its legs.

It's not the welfare state that is the problem. It's the bureaucracies and government agencies and quasi-government agencies that provide well-paid government jobs for parasites. In the US that definitely includes the military.

Eliminating unnecessary government departments and agencies could easily halve the number of government employees.

Most of those who would thus be thrown onto the employment scrap heap are SJWs. Reducing the military to a sensible level needed for actual defence (maybe a quarter or less of its current size) would go a very long way towards reducing the debt and would have the advantage of preventing US governments from getting involved in futile foreign wars. Without those foreign wars there would be fewer refugees which would be an immense benefit to the US and to Europe.

Welfare states are a good idea when they're not combined with crackpot schemes like open borders and when welfare is directed towards those in need rather than parasites like single mothers. The problem with the modern welfare state is that it's used for social engineering. Don't throw out the baby with the bath water.

Anonymous Bukulu August 22, 2016 1:32 PM  

63:

Maybe Heaven and Hell are the same place with the same people and the difference is only your perspective?"

I think Malachi had something to say about that...

Blogger Ivan J August 23, 2016 2:15 AM  

100: It's not the welfare state that is the problem. It's the bureaucracies and government agencies and quasi-government agencies that provide well-paid government jobs for parasites. In the US that definitely includes the military.

So the men an women who are willing to lay down their lives in the defense of the US are on par with people who do nothing. I suppose police officers are also parasites.

100: Most of those who would thus be thrown onto the employment scrap heap are SJWs. Reducing the military to a sensible level needed for actual defence (maybe a quarter or less of its current size) would go a very long way towards reducing the debt and would have the advantage of preventing US governments from getting involved in futile foreign wars. Without those foreign wars there would be fewer refugees which would be an immense benefit to the US and to Europe.

Given the sad state of the US military today, we would probably lose in a war with China. Believe it nor not, China is preparing for war.
The events in the Middle East is actually the Muslim world returning to a state of normalcy. They are returning to the good old days of slavery, genocide, and warefare. Sure you can ignore it at your peril. Keep in mind, Muslims have been waging war and genocide since the days of Muhammad. In case you aren't aware of it, Islam is not a religion of peace. Islam means submission.
The funny thing is, the age of conquest never actually ended.

100: Welfare states are a good idea when they're not combined with crackpot schemes like open borders and when welfare is directed towards those in need rather than parasites like single mothers. The problem with the modern welfare state is that it's used for social engineering. Don't throw out the baby with the bath water.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions, and the welfare state is full of them. Let's see, we have generational dependence, and a breakdown of families in black communities. Welfare worked wonders on them.
Those who are truly in need won't be served by the welfare sate. It will always be the demagogues, charlatans, and greasy politicians that determine who is in need. It is these fools should be disarmed rather than the American public or the US military.

Blogger dfordoom August 23, 2016 2:23 AM  

@Ivan J

So the men an women who are willing to lay down their lives in the defense of the US are on par with people who do nothing

They're not being asked to lay down their lives in the defense of the US. They're being asked to lay down their lives fighting unnecessary futile wars of aggression. No-one is threatening the US militarily. No-one is likely to threaten the US militarily.

Blogger dfordoom August 23, 2016 2:32 AM  

@Ivan J

The road to hell is paved with good intentions, and the welfare state is full of them. Let's see, we have generational dependence, and a breakdown of families in black communities. Welfare worked wonders on them.


I don't say that the welfare state as currently organised is a good thing. In fact I made the point that it's being used for social engineering. But a welfare state in itself is not a bad thing.

The fact that some police forces are corrupt doesn't mean we should abolish all police forces. The fact that some welfare systems are corrupt doesn't mean we should abolish all welfare systems.

It will always be the demagogues, charlatans, and greasy politicians that determine who is in need. It is these fools should be disarmed rather than the American public or the US military.

I have never suggested that the American public should be disarmed. I also didn't suggest that the US military be disarmed, merely reduced to a more rational size.

Anonymous SciVo August 23, 2016 3:38 AM  

Groot wrote:This is either a paid troll or a sociopath.

Given the existence of Zika, Soros implicitly wants to microencephalize your babies. How is he still alive? It honestly baffles me.

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