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Monday, September 12, 2016

A dubious internist

Even the cucks are now starting to believe that there is something up with Hillary Clinton's collapse yesterday:
First of all – let us talk about walking pneumonia.

I have no doubt that Mrs. Clinton may have been diagnosed with pneumonia on Friday. That is entirely possible. 70 year olds have pneumonia all the time. My point is that pneumonia in and of itself – WOULD NEVER make someone do what happened today. I am fully aware of walking pneumonia – and indeed – by definition – it is “walking”. It is a type of pneumonia caused by very specific organism(s) that are much different than those types that will put you in the hospital. The point being – walking pneumonia will produce ill symptoms – often a cough and overall malaise – but will never ever cause a syncope like episode. Pneumonia or reaction to antibiotics simply do not produce what happened today in the absence of many other grave symptoms – and believe me people would not be walking through a parking lot with these symptoms.

I want to clarify the cardiac arrhythmia issue as well. AFIB with RVR is but one of many types of rhythm problems that could be going on – it is by far the most common therefore the most likely. This is what happens when people have afib: the atria – the top chambers of the heart – are beating in total chaos. Normally – your AV node protects the bottom part – ventricles – or pumping chambers from being exposed to the chaos. You can go for long times months even years without any problems at all. However, ever so often the AV node fails in its protection – the chaos from above is transported to the ventricles below and suddenly the bottom of the heart is beating 150, 160 whatever. Just think how you feel after 15 minutes on a treadmill. Running hard. Heart rate of 150 – light-headed and short of breath. Now imagine that you get off the treadmill – and your heart just keeps right on going at 150. In about 10 minutes you will begin to feel very bad. This is manifested in different ways by different people. Shortness of breath is very common. The feeling of being flushed or hot is very common. Nausea and vomiting are very very common. But your heart will not slow down. After several minutes of this – even the most simple exertion like walking – can lead to such low blood pressure that you will have syncope (pass out). That is why AFIB with RVR is so high on the differential diagnosis of the tape I saw today.

Something else of concern that has been running through my mind since I saw that tape is yet another diagnosis that I neglected to put in the initial discussion. This is EXACTLY how people will react if they have an implantable defibrillator and it fires. This would be the same as having the big paddles put on you in the ER – and shocked. Over the past 20 years or so – we have been putting “paddles” directly into patients chest that fire and shock them whenever the computer that is attached to them perceives there is a problem. These patients would already have a diagnosis of a cardiac rhythm problem. One of two things in my experience happens. 1) The rhythm problem comes out of nowhere – and the patient is shocked. They would seem to drop to the ground instantly 2) Often, the rhythm problem is lurking for several minutes before the shock occurs. It all depends on the diagnosis and the settings of the device. But the patient will often feel very very weak and tired, dizzy, hot and light-headed in the seconds/minutes before the device fires. When it does fire however – most of the time – the patient goes down temporarily – just like Mrs. Clinton did today.

Will someone ask her please if she has a defibrillator in her chest? This may or may not be so – but do you want someone who can be shocked like that in charge of the country in a crisis?

I want to for personal reasons address concerns about my ethics in some of the above comments.

I agree – no diagnosis should ever be made without the patient being right in front of you. And many of the tapes and videos used in the past month about Mrs. Clinton’s health have been “out there”. I am not making a diagnosis on her – I am offering up medical facts about what could have caused something like this to occur. Common things occur commonly. This video today is clearly not from the lunatic fringe like some of the others I have seen this past few weeks. I am gravely concerned about this after what I saw today – and I wholeheartedly believe the voters need to know the whole story – whatever that may be – and what the campaign is telling and putting forth makes little sense medically speaking. As is so often in politics – it is the lies and confusion put forward to cover things up – that gets people in trouble.

I like most of America am absolutely dismayed with the choices we have this year for President. This video today did not help decrease my concern about this election.

Another question I have – and about this I need to be perfectly clear. Had I seen that video on any of my patients – and believe me – having things caught on video is actually very common in medicine today – my very very first reaction would be GET THAT PATIENT TO THE ER – I AM MEETING YOU THERE. Why on earth was Mrs. Clinton not rushed to the hospital???? — That issue alone brings up all sorts of concerning thoughts in my mind..

And about her personal physician – Dr. Raback. In my haste – to get the previous comment done – and typing quickly – I did not fully convey her status with the Board of Internal Medicine.  She is listed as CERTIFIED – but NOT PARTICIPATING in MAINTENANCE. That means that she has made the decision not to maintain her certification. She passed her initial exams and was certified at some point in the past – but is not participating in maintaining this going forward. At some point – this will put her at great risk of being dropped from insurance panels, etc. This is a huge thorn in the side of the internal medicine community at this point. The whole thing is a total mess. It is an example of government regulation gone horribly awry. But the fact of the matter is that she is not participating in her continued certification – There are those in internal medicine who would think that to be not a good thing.
It's interesting that he concluded that Clinton is suffering from cardiac arrhythmia, which, if true, would also dictate her retirement. Regardless, it is now obvious that with her now-uncertified doctor, her handler, her conversion van, and her avoidance of the hospital, Hillary Clinton is doing her best to hide her health issues from the electorate.

But she clearly isn't feeling fine, or she wouldn't have canceled her trip to California today. Or to have sent out what looks like a body-double to pop out, wave at the plebs, and promptly disappear for days.

It would be very surprising if this situation didn't affect the polls. It's about time we should start seeing signs of the Trumpslide.

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125 Comments:

Blogger Leo Littlebook in Shenzhen September 12, 2016 3:24 AM  

It's shocking she has a heart.

Blogger Krul September 12, 2016 3:27 AM  

It would be very surprising if the media didn't do everything they can to hide and minimize the effect this has on the poles.

Blogger Shimshon September 12, 2016 3:51 AM  

I was diagnosed once with walking pneumonia. It's no picnic, but I was never in any way incapacitated or prone to collapse.

Blogger Shimshon September 12, 2016 3:53 AM  

Vox, aren't we seeing signs of the Trumpslide already? You mentioned after the conventions that the momentum at this point is what matters (or, it "seems" like you said such a thing), and Trump has had that for weeks now.

Blogger VD September 12, 2016 3:57 AM  

Yes, but what I mean is that we should see the polls in the battleground states like Florida, Ohio, North Carolina, and Pennsylvania flipping to Trump in the next two weeks. He has momementum, which is necessary, but we haven't seen the flips yet.

Blogger synp September 12, 2016 4:12 AM  

Krul wrote:It would be very surprising if the media didn't do everything they can to hide and minimize the effect this has on the poles.

That's not how the media works. At some point they may come to a realization that Clinton is not going to be the next president. At that point they're going to be all over her health issues and calling for a change in the Democratic ticket.

We're seeing a bit of this already. Even CNN and MSNBC have her health in the headlines. While MSNBC is towing the "just pneumonia" line, CNN is already publishing their version of a tough questions article entitles "What we know about Hillary Clinton's health".

Seems like they're at least testing the water for flipping the way they cover her campaign. Remember: the way is more important than the leader. The media is loyal to the narrative, and Hillary can be replaced if that what is necessary to win. Tim Kaine is a viable candidate, maybe more so than Mike Pence. If the health issues continue, at some point the media will flip.

Blogger Krul September 12, 2016 4:24 AM  

synp wrote:That's not how the media works.

It most certainly is. You know they're biased, yet think they're paragons of impartial objectivity when it comes to reporting poll results? Whether Hillary is replaced or not, they'll certainly try to skew things as unfavorably for Trump as possible.

Blogger Horn of the Mark September 12, 2016 4:30 AM  

I have to believe the left (both media and political wings) is paralyzed between their desire to win and their fear of the dying Clinton beast. No one wants to act first because the death throws of the beast will be vicious, maybe fatal.

That fear is waning, though. If Hillary goes down, so does the Clinton dynasty. A lot of them must know even better than we do about just how bad off she is. Some politician or media figure has to seize the opportunity and give Hillary the metaphorical coup de grace soon.

Blogger VD September 12, 2016 4:31 AM  

You know they're biased, yet think they're paragons of impartial objectivity when it comes to reporting poll results?

You're missing the point. The press is loyal to the Narrative, not to Hillary. Once the Narrative shifts and it is decided that Hillary is a liability, the press will turn on her with unmitigated savagery. The dicussions now taking place behind closed doors is whether to shift the Narrative or to attempt to maintain it.

Since Hillary can't campaign, this suggests they're going to shift it soon, possibly even this week.

Blogger Johann Pearce September 12, 2016 4:34 AM  

This is it, Hillary's done for. The only way Trump can lose now is if she drops out of the race and the Democrats select a new candidate.

Blogger Noah B September 12, 2016 4:37 AM  

This sounds plausible, except that many major symptoms remain unexplained, especially the seizures and uncontrolled coughing. Could those be side effects of a drug she's taking?

Reading through a list of possible diagnoses, the best diagnoses I could find (as a non-medical professional) were sarcoidosis and lymphoma. Neither condition explains the seizures AFAIK.

Any way you look at it, she is extremely ill. Seizures, persistent cough, dizzy spells, fainting... that's a basket of deplorable symptoms!

Blogger Noah B September 12, 2016 4:40 AM  

@12 Time to change the campaign slogan from "Stronger Together" to "This Is Fine"

Anonymous Takin' a Look September 12, 2016 4:53 AM  

Vox Day

You're missing the point. The press is loyal to the Narrative, not to Hillary. Once the Narrative shifts and it is decided that Hillary is a liability, the press will turn on her with unmitigated savagery. The dicussions now taking place behind closed doors is whether to shift the Narrative or to attempt to maintain it.

Since Hillary can't campaign, this suggests they're going to shift it soon, possibly even this week.


That only works if Chelsea is protected. Whatever we think of those evil Clinton Bastards, they protected her.

Bill and Hill are no fools. They've got dirt on EVERYBODY. Why do you think the charade has been kept up this long?

Blogger Mr. Bee September 12, 2016 4:58 AM  

Biden: tanned, rested and horny.

Anonymous Steve September 12, 2016 5:00 AM  

It'd be funny if Kaine gets pushed into the top slot.

As a presidential candidate Oily McGayface would be like a major sports team choosing some dopey-looking random fan from the stands as a last minute substitute in the big game.

OpenID aew51183 September 12, 2016 5:08 AM  

A surprise DNC candidate quick-change is arguably the worst case scenario.

Both sides have been slandering each other as corrupt bigots and are covered in their own feces. A fresh face on the other side would cause a stampede in his direction simply because he doesn't smell.

It would be interesting to see Trump's reaction to this. If he can counter such a thing then Scott Adams will be correct in his assertion of "master persuader".

OpenID paworldandtimes September 12, 2016 5:15 AM  

2009 was her year. Even before her health problems came out, it was clear to me that by 2017 she'd have been washed up.

Maybe we'll read one day about young Obama's handlers outmuscled the Clinton mafia in giving him the 2008 nomination.

PA

Anonymous Takin' a Look September 12, 2016 5:17 AM  

@aew51183

You have a point, but this was supposed to be Jeb's triumph, the death of that "icky Republican party" as he "bravely bore the cost of the next financial crisis, yet stumbled all over it". Ensuring amnesty, TTP, Globalism, open borders to the hilt like a crack whore gang-banged forever while everyone steals her shit.

Blogger JACIII September 12, 2016 5:33 AM  

Anybody know what the election law re: candidate drops out? Does it mean the Dems are shit outa luck or have the RNC and DNC been enshrined legally as necessary for a valid election. One would think there are plenty of candidates in the race already to make it a go without a DNC participant.

Anonymous Sazerac September 12, 2016 5:34 AM  

I had lunch last week with a very wealthy Chinese girl in a city in China. She thinks Hillary's health is so bad she is likely to drop dead before the election. She was also hoping for a Trump win.

It is amazing the deceit in the Western media. A Chinese guy today was telling me how he is happy because Trump is likely to win now. Her health, emails and other issues have been all over local news here for ages. I told him that most people in Western countries don't even know what is going on because the media hides it all. He asked about the western media being more free than his. I told him it just seems like that, anything that goes against the agenda in the West is ignored or manipulated. Chinese media is also nationalistic which ours aren't at all.

I don't think Westerners really want to contemplate what this all implies. As someone said recently, nothing really bad will happen because the whole system is so integrated and seems so strong, life will just keep going on as it has.

The USA is looking more and more similar to a dynastic collapse

Blogger Lovekraft September 12, 2016 5:53 AM  

And (I hate to bring him up) but the Obama legacy is in front of us too: race-hustling NFL 'statements', global decline into chaos, being called 'son of whore' etc.

Unless history books become fully converged, his eight years will be seen as a disaster.

Blogger Robert What? September 12, 2016 5:54 AM  

My prediction - and you heard it here first - is that Obama will delay the elections and stay on as President until a replacement for Hillary can be found (translation: who can beat Trump). He can't legally do that but since the Democrats, the Media and the Cucks will be completely behind him, no one will stop him. If I'm right you all owe me a beer.

Anonymous Discard September 12, 2016 5:55 AM  

10. Johann Pearce: I agree. It's best if the Dragon is wounded, not dead.

Anonymous SciVo September 12, 2016 6:06 AM  

aew51183 wrote:A surprise DNC candidate quick-change is arguably the worst case scenario.

I've already got a hardcore leftist friend to go Bernie --> Trump. But TPTB can't stand the thought of running a Jewish Nazi. So whatever they do won't be Sanders, and anyone else would put even more of my lefty friends in play. Hahaha!!

Blogger Bradford Walker September 12, 2016 6:11 AM  

Chelsea is protected, through her marriage, with one caveat: no public life.

She's not stupid, and she's shown an unwillingness to follow her parents into public life; that's a caveat she wants to accept, and will as soon as its put to her. Once her parents stop prodding her, she'll withdraw from public life and never be seen again.

Yes, I suggest that even Chelsea wants Sick Hillary to go.

Blogger Stilicho September 12, 2016 6:14 AM  

@JACIII, doesn't matter what the law is, the DNC will be allowed to sub in another candidate if that's what they need. See, e.g. Lautenberg in NJ. The courts exist to give the aura of legitimacy to their paymasters.

Blogger YIH September 12, 2016 6:22 AM  

Two from Sailer:
Washington Post Last Tuesday: "Can We Just Stop Talking About Hillary Clinton’s Health Now?"
CNN "Reliable Sources" Host: Please, No Conspiracy Theories About Hillary's Health, We're Non-deplorables!
The smell of desperation is in the air.
That said, I'm still going with ''too close to call'' provided Hillary doesn't outright drop dead or is severe enough to be hospitalized.
It could be a cluster if she does drop dead because most states have finalized their ballots. Corpses winning election have happened before. One can only guess how the Electoral College would deal with a dead candidate. One possibility would be to vote as if she were alive and let the rule of secession play out. The other possibility would be to swing to Trump simply because he's still alive. Assuming he doesn't win outright of course.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan September 12, 2016 6:26 AM  

WAG she's near death and the Clintoons are selling her spot

Anonymous old man in a villa September 12, 2016 6:33 AM  

The best part is watching the media call everyone who questions her health a "conspiracy theorist", "crazies", "lunatic fringe" and "out there" and then having to slowly and inexorably confirm it all.

Somewhere inside the minds of even the dimmest of bulbs the thought must be, ""what else are they right bout?"

Anonymous Cinco September 12, 2016 6:34 AM  

The most likely cause of these sysmptoms is that she traveled too far north. Lizards just can't survive in cooler temperatures. Explains her being cold-blooded nature too!

Anonymous VFMUltra September 12, 2016 6:34 AM  

The cause of Hilldawgs health issues should be obvious; she's moulting. The body double is simply her shed which will be paraded around until HRCs transformation is complete. Soon enough she'll be good as new.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan September 12, 2016 6:35 AM  

It's easily worth billions of dollars to the Clintoons Foundation and with a presidential pardon free and easy money or she stays on life support and Trump is president.

Blogger Cataline Sergius September 12, 2016 6:51 AM  

This was the first thing that popped up on Google this morning when I typed "Has a presidential Candidate..."

has a presidential candidate ever died before the election

I think people have noticed. Scott Adams called it right.

Blogger Cataline Sergius September 12, 2016 6:56 AM  

The Bernie Bros will be demanding that she step aside but the Horrifying Hellbeast shall not listen to their pleas.

The rest of the Machine knows what she is like and I suspect they are secretly hoping she dies before the election.

Anonymous Be Not Afraid September 12, 2016 7:01 AM  

@33 LOL. Panicked call from Schmidt to some low-level drone who manages the search algorithm in 5, 4, 3, 2...

Blogger Franz Lionheart September 12, 2016 7:05 AM  

Body double? Really? Yeah I've seen the speculative web pages. Although hardly anything surprises me anymore about the legacy media and Hillary's corruption..... But her VOICE sounded legit, including even the hoarseness due to her Parkinson's drug-induced coughing. I'm sceptical about the body-double .... Although..... at this stage, what difference does it make?

OpenID basementhomebrewer September 12, 2016 7:05 AM  

Horn of the Mark wrote:I have to believe the left (both media and political wings) is paralyzed between their desire to win and their fear of the dying Clinton beast. No one wants to act first because the death throws of the beast will be vicious, maybe fatal.

That fear is waning, though. If Hillary goes down, so does the Clinton dynasty. A lot of them must know even better than we do about just how bad off she is. Some politician or media figure has to seize the opportunity and give Hillary the metaphorical coup de grace soon.


The Clinton list might get significantly longer if her illness is effecting her mental capacity.

Blogger Franz Lionheart September 12, 2016 7:12 AM  

has a presidential candidate ever died before the election?

http://teachinghistory.org/history-content/ask-a-historian/20431

I found this when googling:

No presidential candidate of a major party has ever died or withdrawn before a presidential election and no President-elect has ever died or withdrawn after winning the general election, but before taking office.

However, one vice-presidential candidate died after he was nominated, but before the general election, and another dropped off his party's ticket.

The procedures for finding replacements for candidate vacancies are guided by federal and state laws and party regulations. They are not exactly a patchwork, but they have evolved in response to practical problems that have arisen during the presidential elections, and in response to the growth of political parties as integral players in the election process.

In this respect, the procedures for filling vacancies in the parties' nominated tickets are like those that have evolved for the succession of the presidency when the person holding that office vacates it for one reason or another: When William Henry Harrison contracted pneumonia after giving a three-hour-long speech in the snow at his 1841 inauguration and died barely a month later, he was succeeded in office by John Tyler. It was not until confronting the issues raised in the transition of power from Harrison to Tyler that Congress thought through the rules for the succession of the President when the office is vacated during mid-term.


More there.




Blogger Makeshift September 12, 2016 7:16 AM  

@3

It can get bad. I had it in High School and could barely breathe or walk for about a week.

Anonymous krymneth September 12, 2016 7:20 AM  

As I said yesterday, these people know how to win elections. (Or "win", of you like. Attain victory, anyhow.) If they thought they could just slide in a fresh candidate and all of America would rejoice and vote for the fresh clean new face, they wouldn't be in panic, they'd be celebrating. They don't think that's a likely scenario.

Also, you're probably thinking about a "generic Democrat" when you say that. Be specific. Who is it that America is suddenly going to rejoice when given the option? The reason we have Hillary in the first place is probably that the Clinton machine has systematically destroyed anybody else who would be a viable candidate for the last sixteen years. (Obama was a fluke, because they didn't take him seriously until to late,a mistake they have not repeated.) Maybe "generic Democrat" could win, but xe's not available on account of not existing.

Blogger Franz Lionheart September 12, 2016 7:28 AM  

... carrying on from above: Now that's constitutionally actually quite interesting: Recall that the people of the united States of America actually DON'T elect the president. They just elect the electoral college of their State. Which by law is required to meet sometime in December.

So, if Hillary were to die or withdraw anytime before the States' colleges meet in December, the process would not change one bit, but the popular election of the electors would still go ahead - after all, they haven't died!

The DNC would simply meet and determine a replacement candidate, and then tell the Democratic Party electors whom to vote for.

The bizarre situation that the people of the USA may not have any idea whatsoever whom they actually will elect, if they vote Democrat, may absolutely occur, and would be perfectly constitutional, at least on paper. Albeit clearly bizarre and undemocratic.

Anonymous Sazerac September 12, 2016 7:29 AM  

Michelle Obama could potentially come in.

Blogger Leatherwing September 12, 2016 7:31 AM  

Biden: tanned, rested and horny.

Exactly. He would only need two months worth of talking points and he'd be a shoe-in. Even a lot of Republicans would be relieved to have an alternate choice.
Should we start preemptively unvetting him?

Blogger Zeroh Tollrants September 12, 2016 7:37 AM  

I blame the Republican party for accepting, and enjoying the idea that Joe Biden is just this goofy, overly handsy, uncle that says insane stuff at Thanksgiving Dinner. IMO, by advancing/accepting this "Oh, that's just Joe,lol" narrative that is COMPLETELY untrue, they've left him as a viable option to take her place, if forced out. I get that Millennials don't know any differently, but that SOB is just as vile and just as dangerous as the rest of the Democratic pack. Trust me on this, I've been watching it for decades.

Anonymous New guy in town September 12, 2016 7:37 AM  

Speaking of polls, some of the evidence of the Trumpslide has already started to show - he is leading in Ohio, Florida, and NC. Plus, yesterday, they had the Hildabeast leading by 7, now it's either Trump by one or a tie.

Blogger Todd Stevens September 12, 2016 7:43 AM  

She must have bigger health issues. But arrhythmia by itself wouldn't mandate retirement would it, if it were controlled with medication?

I'm beginning to suspect she has Parkinsons.

Blogger Cataline Sergius September 12, 2016 7:47 AM  

Exactly. He would only need two months worth of talking points and he'd be a shoe-in. Even a lot of Republicans would be relieved to have an alternate choice.
Should we start preemptively unvetting him?


Don't worry about it. It's up to Hillary whether she quits or not. No one has the authority to make her step aside.

And I don't see her doing that of her own free will. It just won't happen.

The only way she will drop out of the race this late in the game is either death or something permanently incapacitating.

Neither is unlikely but we don't need to build our plans around that possibility either.

Blogger Leatherwing September 12, 2016 7:52 AM  

Don't worry about it. It's up to Hillary whether she quits or not. No one has the authority to make her step aside.

And I don't see her doing that of her own free will. It just won't happen.


You are correct. I had misread an article that led me to believe the party could oust her against her wishes. As the rules stand, they can't. And she will be sworn in from a hospital gurney before she quits.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan September 12, 2016 7:59 AM  

Poor cucks the left hands them the narrative bag of shit and tells them its roses, and then quiver lips like Rod have to finesse it to his dwindling followers.

I'm almost to the point of thinking that Ronald Reagan's rhetoric could be brought back against the Evil Empire and the Wall of Lies that surrounds us.

Blogger Nate September 12, 2016 8:02 AM  

I would argue the evidence of the Trumpslide started back on Labor Day with the Milwaukee speech and the black community's response to it. When LA Times reported a 10 point jump in Trump's support among blacks.

Since Commie Worker Day Trump has been gaining and gaining, both nationally and in the battle ground states, and Hillary has been collapsing.

Anonymous Correcting The Record September 12, 2016 8:02 AM  

As the PR Team tweeted:

It only looked like a frail old lady being dragged unceremoniously into a vehicle if you saw it from a weird angle.

Also, if you play the video backwards, it shows an athletic Hillary backflipping and landing on her feet!

The first Sk8er President? Historic!

Anonymous Slen September 12, 2016 8:04 AM  

It does appear that the Hildebeast is starting to come apart. Think slow-motion Valdemort at the end of the HP series. I only hope they can keep her patched together with a combination of powerful drugs, duct tape and baling wire until the election. I'd hate to see them parachute Uncle Joe in at the last minute and generate some real Democrat enthusiasm with some kind od "Win one for the Gipper" schtick.

Blogger Dexter September 12, 2016 8:13 AM  

"Anybody know what the election law re: candidate drops out?"

DNC can pick whoever it wants.

Blogger Nate September 12, 2016 8:19 AM  

As I understand it, this late, if she were to drop out, her VP would move to the top of the ticket and select a new running mate.

Blogger dc.sunsets September 12, 2016 8:23 AM  

The Dems will stay with her unless their current, furious efforts to find a JFK charmer to groom & photoshop (a second-stage booster scripted entirely in NYC at a PR firm) is found.

Everyone knew she'd have been terrible in a head to head debate. Now they can claim she's not quite healthy enough (but soldiers on for the sake of the country) and the same mindless drones will support her.

The question has always been turnout. An angry electorate will show up in multitudes for Trump. Who will be motivated enough by NeverTrump to get off the couch, even if Soros is paying $500 a head to the bussed-in faction?

Blogger Franz Lionheart September 12, 2016 8:25 AM  

@54 Nate, that's incorrect. Indeed, @53, the DNC can pick whoever they want. I've explained the reasons in @41.

Blogger dc.sunsets September 12, 2016 8:25 AM  

As I understand it, this late, if she were to drop out, her VP would move to the top of the ticket and select a new running mate.

Interesting. He's a liability, but could try just swapping position with Clinton and claim theirs would be almost a co-presidency. The same scum would still support the Dems.

Anonymous Jack September 12, 2016 8:30 AM  

I think it is just plain hilarious that Trump, a total non-pro, decisively kicked the asses of all the "professional" politicians. Tells you something, right? Just hope he can do it again with the much more monstrous DNC machine.

Like I keep saying, even if he loses (hope not, but possible), Trump is Lexington and Concord, not Appomattox.

Blogger Paul September 12, 2016 8:31 AM  

As an anonymous commenter on the Internet, not only am I an internist as well but also a world famous particle physicist, cross country motorcycle champion and the leader of a rock and roll band. Or was that a movie?

And as a universal expert on expertism, I also noticed what Clinton's own doctor said, that she was diagnosed with pneumonia. Not necessarily meaning the doctor herself diagnosed Hillary, only that someone did. Maybe even me. Plus she was put on antibiotics. Not necessarily for the pneumonia, maybe just some Neosporin for a booboo.

So what do we really know about Hillary's health?

NOTHING.

High time we did, from a full, current examination by a randomly picked independent physician. Otherwise, all we really know is that nothing about Hillary's health was marked classified at the time.

Blogger Franz Lionheart September 12, 2016 8:35 AM  

When Hillary drops out, the DNC appoints a replacement. They can do that right until middle of December, even after the popular vote, as long as it's one day before the electoral colleges in each state.

The VP candidate is in fact a separate ticket and would remain in place (unless the DNC anoints him P candidate).

Bernie Sanders would have a strong (moral high ground) argument to be picked as DNC primaries runner-up. In this case he couldn't chose his own VP candidate though.

Anonymous dagwood September 12, 2016 8:38 AM  

@ 6: "Tim Kaine is a viable candidate"

There is a man
(There is a man!)
A certain man
(A certain man!)
A man whose face
And charming grace
Are known throughout the land!
You know his name
(You know his name!)
His name is Kane
(His name is Kane!)

Wow, this looks weirder and weirder.

Blogger YIH September 12, 2016 8:46 AM  

What would happen if a bucket of water was thrown at the wicked witch of the west? Z man games it out:
If Hillary Clinton was suddenly incapacitated or simply quit the race, the Democrats would have a problem. They would have to go to court in some states to have their new candidate listed on the ballot. It’s not impossible, but it would be a complication.
So, what are the possible scenarios?
At this late date, finding a replacement would be complicated. The Democrat Party has rules for this scenario so they could move quickly. The rules strongly encourage the party to pick the runner up, but they can pick anyone to fill the slot. Bernie Sanders would be the obvious option, but that would mean certain defeat to Donald Trump, the nightmare scenario for both parties. The Bernie Bros are committed, but their numbers are limited. Most Americans would assume his nomination is a surrender.

I don't agree Bernie would be the nightmare for Trump he suggests, off the bench at the last minute or not.
Granted, the media would cover for him but it would still be confusing to voters with ballots with Hillary crossed out and Bernie written above.
That was one of the problems in 2000, confusion that resulted in Bush+Buchanan or Gore+Nader votes. And then the debate ''What does Bush+Buchanan mean? A vote for Bush? A vote for Buchanan? A vote for Gore? Neither? No vote?'' with no consistent answer.

Blogger Paul September 12, 2016 8:55 AM  

If Hillary is replaced on the ticket, the DNC is telling its constituents, either vote for whoever we tell you to, vote for Trump, or just go away. Even the densest, shiny eyed Democrat won't be able to overlook that complete stripping of their individual political agency. Yeah, so what if you built your beliefs on Hillary, we just made a menu substitution and you'll eat it and like it or go hungry.

Doesn't sound very much like a nightmare scenario for Trump to me.

Blogger Dave Narby September 12, 2016 8:59 AM  

I found this funny/enlightening: In TAC's FAQ (link at bottom of their page), it says:

"The magazine was founded in 2002 by Pat Buchanan, Scott McConnell, and Taki Theodoracopulos..."

...None of who's writing is featured in TAC anymore. XD

Blogger Nate September 12, 2016 9:01 AM  

@56

Franz... You're wrong. The US Constitution means nothing here. What matters are state laws, and the DNC rules and Regulations.

Going through the rules and regulations.. they basically punt.

If it happens early enough in the process they can elect a new representative the same way the did at a convention, but it isn't appointing anything. It has to be a convention just like they already had. And they specifically forbid proxy voting so everyone actually has to show up.

But that's only half of the problem.

The real problem is the states. State laws have all kinds of requirements and deadlines for when you can get on the ballot.

if she were to drop out now, there would be states where her replacement could not get on the ballot. And states like michigan, you can't just vote democrat and have your vote go to whoever the Democrat is. It has to be exact. You have to vote for the name on the ticket. And there would be no name on the ticket.

this is way... way... more complex that people are making it seem.

The reason I say if she were to drop out now, you would move the VP to her slot.. is he is already on the ballots and already qualified.

The GOP would still fight it in the courts but the Dems would at least have a fighting chance in that case.

and again.. we're talking about 50 cases. The Dems would have to win almost all of them to even get the names on the ballot at all.

As for the electoral college... remember they are state represtatives... not federal.

And their behavior is government by state law. It is not true that they can just vote for anyone they want. Most are bound by law to vote for the candidate that won in their state election.

Anonymous Napoleon 12pdr September 12, 2016 9:03 AM  

I concur that Hillary will not easily let go of the nomination. She has long thought herself owed the Presidency.

And it's a fair question whether or not the Democrats can get a replacement candidate that can beat Trump.

Kaine? Good grief, the man fairly radiates oiliness. Not to mention that the Sanders supporters would walk out. And he forfeits the feminist card.

Sanders? This makes the election a straight-up Capitalist vs Socialist fight...and the cronyism will give Trump the edge. Not to mention that Sanders would be coming in cold, and also forfeits the feminist card.

Somebody else? As others have noted, the Clintons have been careful to make sure there IS nobody else.

This isn't a done deal, but the light we see is looking more and more like the end of the tunnel.

Blogger Nate September 12, 2016 9:05 AM  

"When Hillary drops out, the DNC appoints a replacement. They can do that right until middle of December, even after the popular vote, as long as it's one day before the electoral colleges in each state."

no. they really can't.

The electoral college is legal bound to vote for whoever won. Not the party who won. the candidate who won.

And even that is an over simplification, because the rules binding them are different in every single state.

You are over simplifying this situation way.. way... to much.

Blogger Nate September 12, 2016 9:09 AM  

realistically... what would happen if Hillary dropped out tomorrow... is about 100 lawsuits... and there would be about 10,000 really happy lawyers.

Blogger Nate September 12, 2016 9:19 AM  

also... please don't take my legalistic skepticism as a desire to see Hillary on the ticket.

I would LOVE.. and I mean LOVE to see a Trump Biden debate.

Biden would be so flustered he would end up talking about "successful clean coloreds."

Blogger Franz Lionheart September 12, 2016 9:29 AM  

and again.. we're talking about 50 cases. The Dems would have to win almost all of them to even get the names on the ballot at all.
As for the electoral college... remember they are state represtatives... not federal.


Fair enough. I read up on the federal level only. Obviously you've done your homework and considered (some of) the various state levels (which I agree are more applicable here).

realistically... what would happen if Hillary dropped out tomorrow... is about 100 lawsuits... and there would be about 10,000 really happy lawyers.

Ok, now I'm convinced by your point. As an addition, these various federal, state level, bylaws, and DNC party level regulations are unlikely to be complete nor free of mutual contradiction.

The courts deciding those cases will very likely have to (partially) make it up as they go along. And all of it with the various deadlines for popular vote, electoral colleges, congress aggregation of the States' colleges, finally swearing in the P-elect.

That will be a likely mess.

Blogger RC September 12, 2016 9:30 AM  

It would be a lawyer's bonanza, possibly ending up at the SCOTUS with a 4/4 deadlock. High humor. I recall when Mel Carnahan, governor of Missouri died in a plane crash a few weeks before the 2000 election in which he was running for senate. The dems came out with a big push to "stick with Mel" or some such, a deal negotiated behind closed doors that if the deceased won, the new governor sworn in after his death would appoint Carnahan's wife. He won. Missouri actually voted for a dead man and his wife served until a special election a few years later.

Blogger Josh (the gayest thing here) September 12, 2016 9:32 AM  

...None of who's writing is featured in TAC anymore. XD

TAC still runs every Buchanan column, Scott McConnell still writes every month or two months, and they've published a piece from Taki this year.

Troll harder.

Anonymous That Would Be Telling September 12, 2016 9:44 AM  

@67 Nate:

"When Hillary drops out, the DNC appoints a replacement. They can do that right until middle of December, even after the popular vote, as long as it's one day before the electoral colleges in each state."

no. they really can't.

The electoral college is legal bound to vote for whoever won. Not the party who won. the candidate who won.


Very convincing, especially given how very dedicated to the rule of law this country and its individual states are....

Blogger Nate September 12, 2016 9:45 AM  

"That will be a likely mess."

exactly.

We're talking about a huge legal shit storm here. Total train wreck.

Anonymous High tech Redneck September 12, 2016 9:55 AM  

Having briefly perused a few of the state electoral laws, it seems that there is probably enough wiggle room built in for an elector to cast a vote for someone other than the name listed on the ballot as long as that person is in the same party, particularly if the initial candidate were to drop out for a legitimate reason (and I think that a serious medical issue would qualify as legitimate). I don't think there are many judges who would disqualify electoral votes in this situation. The Democrats would just plug Biden in and then take their chances later on.

Blogger bob k. mando September 12, 2016 10:01 AM  

72. Josh (the gayest thing here) September 12, 2016 9:32 AM
Troll harder.



looking at AC's front page, it looks like cuckservative Rod Dreher's vanity blog. i count ten of his articles listed on the front page and the top three 'most popular' are all Dreher.


( the hardest troll here )

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents September 12, 2016 10:04 AM  



We're talking about a huge legal shit storm here. Total train wreck.


Surely President Obama is willing to stay on in the White House for a while, to ensure continuity of government. So we got that going for us.

Blogger The Other Robot September 12, 2016 10:15 AM  

I concur that Hillary will not easily let go of the nomination. She has long thought herself owed the Presidency.

At this stage we are talking a dead woman walking.

It's not Hillary that won't let go, it her donors and the globalists.

Talk about Ghost Who Walks now that we know about the body double. They must think white people are as dumb as those Africans Lee Falk wrote about.

Anonymous Broken Arrow September 12, 2016 10:26 AM  

If I hadn't seen footage of her falling, I'd argue the entire thing was a set up to have her "fall" then come back in a week looking tanned, rested, and ready to debunk the people focused on her health. The problem is that that she was not faking that fall. I've seen people go down due to fainting and she went down.

Blogger Josh (the gayest thing here) September 12, 2016 10:28 AM  


looking at AC's front page, it looks like cuckservative Rod Dreher's vanity blog. i count ten of his articles listed on the front page and the top three 'most popular' are all Dreher.


He writes more content that's more popular than other writers for TAC. So what?

Anonymous Napoleon 12pdr September 12, 2016 10:29 AM  

@77

Nope. Obama is out the door 1200 EST 20 Jan 2017. That's in the Constitution. He tries to remain in office one second longer, and I'd bet on a race between the Secret Service and the military to see who can shoot him first.

No. The Constitution already has provision for this. Should the Electoral College not produce a winner, the House will elect the President, the Senate the Vice President. See the 12th Amendment. Interesting provision...the voting under such a process is by state. Since the GOP is almost certain to carry more states than the Dems, this gives them a significant advantage.

Blogger The Other Robot September 12, 2016 10:39 AM  

Why was Hillary wearing sunglasses?

They haven't perfected the eyes yet. They look like a dead person's eyes.

Anonymous Crispy September 12, 2016 10:41 AM  

Oh look! The gray lady is throwing a new candidate against the wall to see if xe sticks: Harvard educated, lawyer, female, says the correct (lefty) things.

Michelle Robinson Obama

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents September 12, 2016 10:44 AM  

CEO Nickolic
There was no problem admitting the Greek, Italian, Polish and Irish immigrants to the United Stations; they went in seamlessly and upgraded from their (slightly inferior) Euro-ethnic cultures to the (majority-dominant) Anglo/Western European one.

Not really. We've already discussed this. The Irish are tribal for a start. Pimping your blog is gauche, btw.

Anonymous dagwood September 12, 2016 10:45 AM  

"Biden would be so flustered he would end up talking about "successful clean coloreds."

Biden would just do his smug imbecilic laugh, like he did with Ryan. Doesn't know anything, (or worse, knows everything, and it's not like you wanna hear), been riding that train for what? Forty years? What a contemptible POS.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents September 12, 2016 10:46 AM  

Why was Hillary wearing sunglasses?

Possibly prescription blue-tinted anti-seizure. Recall after her fall and concussion she wore some kind of prismatic glasses for a while.

Or maybe her yellow reptilian orbs are peeking through and the blue glasses are to keep us from seeing them?

Anonymous Jared September 12, 2016 10:48 AM  

"The Irish are tribal for a start."

Ethnographic fail.

Blogger GreenEyedJinn September 12, 2016 10:51 AM  

There is a very strong association between Parkinson's and pneumonia. Not mentioned in the linked article.
In one video, you can hear a metallic 'pop' as HRC is caught. I've trained with injectors and epi-pens. The sound is similar.
If she had not been caught, significant injury would have been likely -- she went down like a puppet with cut strings.
Is this the time where Barack makes good on his promise to "Crazy Uncle" Joe Biden? I see no other DNC alternate that could carry the write-in vote for states where the ballots have been set for November. Biden has a Long-established pandering to the minority vote, and otherwise nearly neutralizes Donald for the white vote.
May we live in interesting times.

Anonymous Spartacus xxxxx September 12, 2016 10:59 AM  

aew51183 wrote:A surprise DNC candidate quick-change is arguably the worst case scenario.

There's a structural problem with switching out the candidate so near to the election. The runners are already registered and on the ballots in the various 50-ish States. Each has different rules but most require the ballot to be locked down by mid-August (about 20 States?) or maybe mid-September. So a new Dem candidate would have to be a write-in on a lot of State ballots. The longer they wait the worse the problem gets.

Blogger robwbright September 12, 2016 11:00 AM  

A Hillary supporter I know (and whose dad is a physician) read the OP and really surprised me with this personal message on FB:

"My dad says that physician's write up was "amazingly accurate" and that afib at her age can be a nightmare. He's not a Hillary fan and says no way he can vote for Trump however. He said "we have a moron and a liar running can we start over?" Lol"

Blogger The Other Robot September 12, 2016 11:10 AM  

This is not the first time she has fainted!

Anonymous VFM #6306 September 12, 2016 11:18 AM  

It isn't just pneumonia...it is something she aspires to, for all Americans.

Stronger. Together.
Aspirational. Pneumonia.

Anonymous VFM #6306 September 12, 2016 11:41 AM  

The Other Robot wrote:Why was Hillary wearing sunglasses?

They haven't perfected the eyes yet. They look like a dead person's eyes.


An excerpt from:

Between Two Hills: The Uncanny Valley of Hillary Clinton's Doppelganger

"Secret Service slammed two injections into her side, Chief. We was comin' back from the 9/11 memorial service. We'd just delivered the election. The Presidential election. Eleven minutes in, she asked for the water. She went down in 12 minutes. Didn't see the first spark of life for about a half-hour. Tiger. Or mebbe electroshock victim. You know how you know that on the campaign trail, Chief? You can tell by lookin' from studying the syncope and shakes.

What we didn't know, was that our election mission was so secret, no distress signal had been sent. They didn't even list us as even trailing in the polls for a week. Very first light, Chief, she come cruisin' by, so we formed ourselves into tight groups. It was sorta like you see in the calendars, you know the infantry squares in the old calendars like the Battle of Waterloo and the idea was when she come to the nearest man, that man he starts kowtowin' and beggin' and weepin' and sometimes she go away... but sometimes she wouldn't go away.

Sometimes she looks right at ya. Right into your eyes. And the thing about her is she's got lifeless eyes. Black eyes. Like a doll's eyes. When she comes at ya, she doesn't even seem to be livin'... 'til she bites ya, and those black eyes roll over white and then... ah then you hear that terrible high-pitched screamin'.

The room clears, and despite all your beggin' and your pleadin' she comes in and... she rips you to pieces. You know by the end of that first dawn, lost a hundred men. I don't know how many coughs there were, maybe a thousand. I do know how many men, she averaged six an hour.

Thursday mornin', Chief, I bumped into a friend of mine, (((Matt Lauer))) from New York City. Democrat player. (((Couric's))) mate. I thought he was asleep. I reached over to wake him up. He bobbed up, down in the water, he was like a kinda top. Upended. Well, he'd been bitten in half below the waist. A literal talking head. At noon on the fifth day, a Modified Illness Narrative swung in low and spotted us, a young journalist who didn't know he was supposed to leave us to die and started to pick us up. You know that was the time I was most frightened. Waitin' for my turn. I'll never put on a campaign button again. So, eleven hundred staffers went into the campaign. 316 come out, she took the rest, September the 11th, 2016.

Anyway, we delivered the election."

Anonymous Todde September 12, 2016 11:43 AM  

I'd like to see Trump completely dismiss Clinton as a political adversary and start attacking Tim Kaine. This would a great back handed slap to Clinton and make sure that if Kaine put in her place that he doesn't show up on the scene with a clean slate weeks before the election.

Blogger Horn of the Mark September 12, 2016 12:16 PM  

Posted by a male on Facebook:

Let this public servant be. Let her do her job. Treat her as a human being. And for Christ's sake on a hallowed Sunday, SHOW. HER. SOME. RESPECT.

White-Knighting for the Lizard Queeen. Unbelievable.

Blogger bob k. mando September 12, 2016 12:53 PM  

80. Josh (the gayest thing here) September 12, 2016 10:28 AM
He writes more content that's more popular than other writers for TAC. So what?



if you can't tell the difference between Rod Dreher and Pat Buchanan, i can't help you.

here, have a Hillary Clinton body double.

( the hardest troll here )

Blogger pyrrhus September 12, 2016 1:02 PM  

@95 Haha! Hillary a public servant????

Blogger pyrrhus September 12, 2016 1:06 PM  

"realistically... what would happen if Hillary dropped out tomorrow... is about 100 lawsuits... and there would be about 10,000 really happy lawyers."

I think your number is low, Nate! This would be the biggest clusterf*ck in US history...

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents September 12, 2016 1:25 PM  

@87
"The Irish are tribal for a start."


Ethnographic fail.


Nah, posting in the wrong thread fail.

Anonymous Bombastic Boomer September 12, 2016 1:27 PM  

Have no fear that Hillary Rodan Clinton is incapable of performing the duties of a President! There are Top Men caring for her minor issues and they assure us she is ready to go!

Top Men!

Anonymous BGKB September 12, 2016 1:34 PM  

first a didndu neurologist now an uncertified internist what is next? Undocumented pharmacist.

Obama legacy is in front of us too..., being called 'son of whore' etc.

You know its literally true right?

Anonymous daddynichol September 12, 2016 1:38 PM  

"The parrot is NOT dead! It's resting!"

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents September 12, 2016 1:41 PM  

Video at Drudge's shows the Hillary episode from different angles. Something clearly drops out of a pantsuit leg, then it looks like a man either kicks it or steps on it. Maybe both, the resolution isn't that good.

Ok, so now parts are falling out of Hillary Robot Clinton's clothing, and it's still "Nothing to see here!". What was that object? I swear you can hear a "clink" as it hits the pavement.

OpenID frankluke September 12, 2016 2:08 PM  

@74 We're talking about a huge legal shit storm here. Total train wreck.

There is only one question we still need to ask...

Is the train fine or not?

Blogger Deplorable-Puppy September 12, 2016 2:22 PM  

The thing about them swapping Teh Bern in is... He is no longer a Democrat.

It would look pretty funny to have them go out of their party again to get a decent candidate.

Anonymous Kali i ka da September 12, 2016 2:32 PM  

On Drudge in one clip Clinton enters the driver's side of van. In another clip she is entering the passenger side. This is very different than when the part in your hair is on the right in one picture and on the left in another. Some serious mis direction is going on here.

Anonymous Bob Issa September 12, 2016 2:47 PM  

@106 Flipping the video is done to get-around the copyright bots.

The lozenge/green loogy video seems to show a choking/swallowing problem.

This type of problem is associated with aspiration pneumonia (not generally contagious).

Increasing her "antihistamine load" may have caused a drug-induced-injury (pneumonia).

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26090114


Now, depending on which antibiotic is being used and the capacity to act as a chelator, there could be an increased likelihood of fainting.

Anonymous Stealth Pepe' September 12, 2016 2:54 PM  


The lozenge/green loogy video seems to show a choking/swallowing problem.


That's what they want you to think. I know better.

Blogger Joshua Sinistar September 12, 2016 3:03 PM  

Rumors are now going around that Hillary Clinton is dead. She is said to have died yesterday. She wasn't stumbling around she was immobile. They propped her up against a concrete barrier before she collapsed. A piece of metal is seen falling out of a pant leg. She must have been wearing leg braces to stand. She collapsed and they caught her, but she might have died before they pulled her into the van. That would explain why she wasn't brought to the Hospital and instead went to Chelsea's place. The Democrats are arguing about who replaces her now. All Hillary's events have been cancelled.

Anonymous BGKB September 12, 2016 3:06 PM  

https://www.lewrockwell.com/political-theatre/revised-clinton-campaign-logo/

Anonymous whipley snidelash September 12, 2016 3:38 PM  

Pardon if you might have seen this before, but it looks like cuffs shining on her wrist when they manhandle her into the van. Is this hitlery or not, a spoof, or really as it appears?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11-EAzsGxgQ

Anonymous CorkyAgain September 12, 2016 3:44 PM  

If they think they need someone charismatic as a substitute for Hillary, the Dems could choose one of their many supporters in the entertainment industry. Someone like George Clooney, for example. When you see the Presidency as a figurehead for the behind-the-scenes elites who are really running the show, why not hire an actor?

Blogger Arthur Isaac September 12, 2016 3:46 PM  

AFIB. Congestive heart failure. Coughing, fainting, puffiness. Probably a pace maker on board causing the head snapping routine.

Blogger GFR September 12, 2016 4:23 PM  

How could they possibly put someone OTHER than Sanders in there if hillary can't perform?
.
Sanders WOULD have won if the DNC hadn't put their thumb on the scale. Do you think all the Sanders supporters are just going to roll over?
.
I think people on the right should bein favor of Sanders too (maybe not vocally since that would tend to undermine his legitimacy). The biggest problem that I have with hillary is that she is corrupt and a liar. Sanders is nuts but I believe that he is honest. It would be really useful to the country to have a straight up fight between a socialist and a capitalist, none of this bullshit about a "social democrat" who is financed by Goldman Sachs.
.
And if we lost I would rather have Sanders as president than hillary.

Blogger Arthur Isaac September 12, 2016 4:47 PM  

Also, if the campaign didn't know she had a significant health problem why was their first response not to rush their collapsing candidate to a hospital.

At points it seems that they are satisfied that we are idiots. And they are trolling/gaslighting everyone who is not and who are not also Narratively inclined.

2+2=5. Because we said so.

Blogger GFR September 12, 2016 6:14 PM  

@93
.
I see what you did there..
.
Thats a parody of Quint's speech in "Jaws" about the sinking of the USS Indianapolis - am I right?
.
Very nice..

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents September 12, 2016 7:23 PM  

How could they possibly put someone OTHER than Sanders in there if hillary can't perform?

Dang, I dunno, how could they possibly put someone OTHER than Sanders in the nomination spot in the first place?

Sanders WOULD have won if the DNC hadn't put their thumb on the scale.

Yeah, could be.

Do you think all the Sanders supporters are just going to roll over?

No idea, but it looks right now like the DNCe expects them to get in line and do as they are told for Kaine.

Blogger GFR September 12, 2016 7:31 PM  

@116
.
You might be right but I'm not quite sure why the democrat establishment would be jonesing for Kaine - he doesn't have a two billion dollar foundation, or a reputation for murdering people who get in his way.

Blogger GFR September 12, 2016 7:34 PM  

@116
.
You might be right but I'm not quite sure why the democrat establishment would be jonesing for Kaine - he doesn't have a two billion dollar foundation, or a reputation for murdering people who get in his way.

Blogger GFR September 12, 2016 7:34 PM  

@93
.
I see what you did there..
.
Thats a parody of Quint's speech in "Jaws" about the sinking of the USS Indianapolis - am I right?
.
Very nice..

Blogger GFR September 12, 2016 7:34 PM  

How could they possibly put someone OTHER than Sanders in there if hillary can't perform?
.
Sanders WOULD have won if the DNC hadn't put their thumb on the scale. Do you think all the Sanders supporters are just going to roll over?
.
I think people on the right should bein favor of Sanders too (maybe not vocally since that would tend to undermine his legitimacy). The biggest problem that I have with hillary is that she is corrupt and a liar. Sanders is nuts but I believe that he is honest. It would be really useful to the country to have a straight up fight between a socialist and a capitalist, none of this bullshit about a "social democrat" who is financed by Goldman Sachs.
.
And if we lost I would rather have Sanders as president than hillary.

Anonymous JAG September 12, 2016 7:36 PM  

JACIII wrote:Anybody know what the election law re: candidate drops out? Does it mean the Dems are shit outa luck or have the RNC and DNC been enshrined legally as necessary for a valid election. One would think there are plenty of candidates in the race already to make it a go without a DNC participant.

Basically the Dems are shit outta luck. There is no requirement that a Dem or Rep candidate be on the ballot. If Hillary drops out, and it is too late to replace her with another D (as may already be the case in some states) there are still three candidates running to choose from in Trump, (((Stein))), and Johnson.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents September 12, 2016 9:06 PM  

If and when the DNCe decides to replace Hillary Rodan Robot with some one or some thing else, and a plethora of lawsuits are filed, we can expect Obama to offer to stay on in the name of "continuity". In fact, I would count some attempt to create an Office of the President Pro Tem modeled after his bogus Office of the President Elect in 2008, because "Never let a crisis go to waste".

Appointing himself Protector of Something-or-other would be in keeping with a lot of past actions, and the DNCe would argue "Oh, it's temporary until we get a candidate squared away with all those messy States and what about our proposal for nationalized elections, hmm? Anyway, it's just for a little while, you Deplorables simmer down, later on this year or next year or in 2018 we'll have your precious 'election'".

Hope I'm wrong.

Blogger Donald September 12, 2016 9:40 PM  

@110 Looks to me like she was arrested . . .

Blogger Dexter September 13, 2016 7:50 AM  


Let this public servant be. Let her do her job.


Public servant? She has no "public" office at all. She is a private citizen. She has no "job" - and when she did have a job, she did a shitty job of it.

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