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Sunday, September 04, 2016

Alt Deutschland

Here is hoping the AfD exceeds expectations today:
Voting began on Sunday in the German state of Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, where polls show the anti-immigrant Alternative for Germany (AfD) party making huge gains amid growing discontent with Chancellor Angela Merkel and her open-door refugee policy.

The election, taking place exactly a year after Merkel's decision to open Germany's borders to hundreds of thousands of refugees, will be followed by another key vote in Berlin in two weeks and national elections next September.

Voters already punished Merkel in three state elections in March, voting in droves for the AfD and rejecting Merkel's Christian Democrats.

Mecklenburg-Vorpommern is a small coastal state in northeastern Germany with just 1.3 million eligible voters, but losses there would be humiliating for Merkel, who has her own electoral district in the state.

Founded two years after the last election in the state in 2011, the AfD is expected to capture 22 percent of the vote, the same as Merkel's Christian Democratic Union (CDU), junior partner in the state's ruling coalition, according to a poll by broadcaster ZDF.
I'm putting this up just to confirm what the expectations actually were, before the media starts attempting minimize the significance of whatever happens.

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28 Comments:

Anonymous 5343 September 04, 2016 10:37 AM  

Unless elections there are as compromised as on this side of the Atlantic, I expect the globalists are in for an unpleasant surprise.

Blogger Dave September 04, 2016 11:00 AM  

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Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents September 04, 2016 11:07 AM  

Founded two years after the last election in the state in 2011, the AfD is expected to capture 22 percent of the vote, the same as Merkel's Christian Democratic Union (CDU), junior partner in the state's ruling coalition, according to a poll by broadcaster ZDF.

If AfD pulls that off it will prompt a major screechfest in the Lügenpresse on both sides of the Atlantic, along with goalpost moving "Oh, ONLY 22 percent". Perhaps Carlos Slim's grey whore in Manhattan will have to pause from screaming about Trump for a whole day, oh, the humanity!

Stand with AfD, stand against Sow Merkel and laugh at the squirming Lügenpresse.

Anonymous BGKB September 04, 2016 11:14 AM  

No wonder Merkel changed her tune but not her actions. http://www.unz.com/isteve/politician-pivots-on-deportation/

Blogger Johnny September 04, 2016 11:39 AM  

@4 That is what I am thinking. Nothing much will change.

Anonymous Philipp September 04, 2016 12:19 PM  

Excit poll: Social Democrats (SPD) 30.2%, Alternative für Deutschland (AfD) 21.4%, Christlich-Demokratische Union (CDU) 19.8%, Linke (Left Party) 12.5%, Greens 5%

Anonymous Philipp September 04, 2016 12:24 PM  

The source for the excit poll is:

http://www.n24.de/n24/Nachrichten/Politik/d/9086034/spd-hat-vielleicht-die-wahl--afd-vor-cdu.html

See right-hand side graph

Blogger The Other Robot September 04, 2016 12:58 PM  

Just heard Cathy Young on a debate with Milo.

You can still hear that she comes from Russia.

Blogger The Other Robot September 04, 2016 1:01 PM  

Wait, I didn't know that National Socialism had single-payer health care in its platform and was against exploitation of workers.

Blogger Franz Lionheart September 04, 2016 1:36 PM  

Results look pretty accurate. 21.5 percent. In front of the traitorous CDU with19.4%. That's not exceeding these expectations, but met them. Albeit that older (couple weeks) expectations only listed 14% for AFD.

Blogger Franz Lionheart September 04, 2016 1:40 PM  

Sorry, correction: Earlier this week only, the expectations raised in the media were 14%. Not a couple weeks ago. Quite a jump to 22% now , that's over half again of these predictions just days ago!

Blogger Noah B September 04, 2016 2:05 PM  

Machen Sie Deutschland groß wieder!

Blogger Le Regardeur September 04, 2016 2:07 PM  

A couple of comments on the result.

The AfD got 21.8% but another 3.2% went to the NPD (the National Democratic Party of Germany) which is more to the right of the AfD. That's 25% of the vote going to anti-convergence parties.

The Greens got below the 5% threshold and lost all of their seats in the state parliament. The largest party will be the Social Democrats (the SPD). The German SPD is less converged than equivalent socialist parties in other European countries, in part because there is still meaningful involvement of actual workers (i.e. non-graduates) and the SJW-types are more in the Greens. Several SPD leaders such as Thilo Sarrazin and Elisabeth Herzog-von der Heide (http://www.thelocal.de/20160825/mayor-fires-intern-from-refugee-project-for-wearing-headscarf) have been willing to go against convergence.

Blogger Le Regardeur September 04, 2016 2:07 PM  

A couple of comments on the result.

The AfD got 21.8% but another 3.2% went to the NPD (the National Democratic Party of Germany) which is more to the right of the AfD. That's 25% of the vote going to anti-convergence parties.

The Greens got below the 5% threshold and lost all of their seats in the state parliament. The largest party will be the Social Democrats (the SPD). The German SPD is less converged than equivalent socialist parties in other European countries, in part because there is still meaningful involvement of actual workers (i.e. non-graduates) and the SJW-types are more in the Greens. Several SPD leaders such as Thilo Sarrazin and Elisabeth Herzog-von der Heide (http://www.thelocal.de/20160825/mayor-fires-intern-from-refugee-project-for-wearing-headscarf) have been willing to go against convergence.

Blogger Franz Lionheart September 04, 2016 2:13 PM  

Noah B - lol. Großdeutschland , heh. And since I'm a Grammar Nazi, swap the last two words .... Machen Sie Deutschland wieder groß! Or, better, without the courteous Sie, more direct with the more personable Du: Macht Deutschland wieder groß!

Blogger Noah B September 04, 2016 2:17 PM  

@15 Sounds better!

Blogger Franz Lionheart September 04, 2016 2:17 PM  

Regardeur... The AFD is more Trump, Farage, UKIP, Alt Right indeed. The NPD is pretty much national socialist, so more the old right, in a sense.

Unfortunately Alt Right translates poorly into German, because Alt is the German word for Old; i.e. you'd have to spell it out: Alternativ-Deutschland, or Alternativ-Rechts.

Anonymous torpedo September 04, 2016 2:34 PM  

Franz Lionheart, Noah B

"groß" does mean "great" but in the sense of "large".

The semantically correct translation would be "großartig".

Also using "du" and the imperative is not really that common in german popular invocations, it sounds like a command.

It is more common to use 1st person plural and a form that sounds more like a friendly suggestion:

"Let us make Germany great again" or "Machen wir Deutschland wieder großartig!" or "Lasst uns Deutschland wieder großartig machen!".

Blogger Franz Lionheart September 04, 2016 2:46 PM  

Torpedo - broadly agreed. Einverstanden :)

I also get the sense that MAGA implicitly has that quiet "Let's" in front of it.

I still kinda like "Laßt uns Deutschland wieder groß machen!" better. Groß can certainly mean great, albeit also large, big. I guess großartig simply is less ambiguous, but also longer.

Perhaps : "Machen wir Deutschland wieder groß!"

I'd have to stop now, lest Vox reminds us of the train.

Blogger Noah B September 04, 2016 2:59 PM  

Using "großartig" destroys the double entendre though.

Anonymous MendoScot September 04, 2016 3:14 PM  

Dearie me, the bbc is not happy.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-37271971

Angela Merkel's ruling CDU party has been beaten into third place by an anti-immigrant and anti-Islam party in elections in a north-eastern German state, TV exit polls suggest.

Blogger haus frau September 04, 2016 3:44 PM  

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Blogger haus frau September 04, 2016 3:51 PM  

You just can't beat a Teutonic at being pedantic. I say that with affection. All the nationalities have well known character traits which just shows that there are recognizable human "breeds".

Blogger Noah B September 04, 2016 4:09 PM  

Was gestern unmöglich schien, ist möglich geworden. - Marine Le Pen

https://jungefreiheit.de/politik/deutschland/2016/177415/

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 04, 2016 4:20 PM  

Was gestern unmöglich schien, ist möglich geworden. - Marine Le Pen

"What was impossible yesterday is becoming possible."

Blogger residentMoron September 04, 2016 6:12 PM  

What the luegenpresse will never admit is that this is great news for refugees.

Because if they aren't evicted peaceably they'll be evicted forcibly, or buried.

Blogger Zeroh Tollrants September 04, 2016 7:13 PM  

I'd never heard her speak before that BBC interview. I don't watch television, so perhaps she is often used as some sort of "political commenter," & I'm just unaware. I truly was astounded by her voice. To me, it's not really like an ESL, or Anglo-Russian thing, it is like this bizarre, fake voice that someone might use on a weak comedy sketch show, to garner laughs in lieu of actual jokes. I had to listen a couple of times just to glean what her terrible points were, I was so shocked by it. For the life of me, I cannot fathom why she has been elevated to such a level that's giving her a platform to share them. Is it really just Jewish Neocon vagina?? That's such a depressing thought

Blogger weka September 04, 2016 8:59 PM  

Since I mangle English the meme should be Kebab Raus Merkel Raus.

Germany for square heads and all that.

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