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Friday, September 16, 2016

Clustastrophe

There is clearly some brilliant stategery taking place in the Pentagon these days. These gentlemen are clearly read to fight WWIII against a Sino-Russian alliance:
Video footage appears to show US commandos fleeing a Syrian town under a barrage of abuse and insults hurled at them by fighters from the American-backed Free Syrian Army (FSA) rebel group.

The video appears to be the first evidence of US special forces cooperating with Turkish troops in their battle against Islamic State....

The fighters scream anti-American chants as a column of pick-up trucks carrying US commandos drives away from them.

“Christians and Americans have no place among us,” shouts one man in the video. “They want to wage a crusader war to occupy Syria.”

Another man calls out: “The collaborators of America are dogs and pigs. They wage a crusader war against Syria and Islam.”
There is nothing quite like running away from the ragtag militia you've supplied with weapons to strike fear into your foes. We've got top men running this war. Top men.

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Blogger Jonathan Bennett September 16, 2016 2:32 PM  

+1 for the Indiana Jones reference.

Blogger Student in Blue September 16, 2016 2:34 PM  

"crusader war"

It's telling that this pops up twice in close proximity. How much do you want to bet that the original word was "jihad"?

Now, why are they translating jihad, which practically everyone knows, and trying to hammer in CRUSADER WAR instead?

This will be on the test, students. First two guesses don't count.

Blogger El Borak September 16, 2016 2:45 PM  

That's quite a stragedy we have in place.

Anonymous Pope Cleophus I September 16, 2016 2:52 PM  

We've got top men running this war. Top men.

And they all look like Scalzi on his lawn in a dress.

Anonymous kfg September 16, 2016 2:57 PM  

What an imbezzle. What an ultra-maroon.

Anonymous Philipp September 16, 2016 2:58 PM  

Of course the FSA are the "moderate" rebels in Syria. They want to bring democracy, freedom and the rule of law to Syria. Honestly, the Western media and leaders really believe that.



Blogger Robert Coble September 16, 2016 3:01 PM  

Time to turn loose Temple's Red Diamond Brigade wearing their bright red high heels. . . that'll scare those misogynist bastards back into the 7th century. "They gonna put y'all back in - red high heels!"

Blogger Unknown September 16, 2016 3:02 PM  

The US operators were leaving probably so they didn't have to kill every single one of the sand monkeys when they worked themselves up to trying something other than talking smack.

Mot vets I know have nothing but contempt for everyone in that region except for those who worked with the Kurds. The vets I know of who worked with the Kurds would go to war with them any day of the week.

The entire Saudi Arabian peninsula has nothing to offer the world but oil, and if I thought we could glass the entire thing without screwing oil production, that is what I would do. My hate for islam burns with the intensity of the sun.

Anonymous Adriano September 16, 2016 3:02 PM  

This video deserves a "gorilla warfare" copypasta caption

>What the trump did you just say about me, you little alt-righter? I studied sun Tzu for 300 minutes and supplied 40 goat herders with anti-aircraft weapons...etc

Blogger bob k. mando ( the hardest troll here ) September 16, 2016 3:03 PM  

VD
We've got top men running this war. Top men.



which is why Hillary is in favor of turning over operations to Putin.

https://youtu.be/0FJ2mOcr7to?t=3m41s

the same Putin who has no soul, that she 'hates' ( if you believe any emotional characterization Hillary gives, you're a fool ) and is accusing of wanting to take over the world?

wait, wut?


well, that's what happens when you put Top Women in charge. they say that it's the man's responsibility to fix what they fucked up.


Anonymous 11B September 16, 2016 3:04 PM  

“Christians and Americans have no place among us,”

Change a couple of nouns in that passage and it could be rewritten to describe our feelings in the US too.

Blogger Bard September 16, 2016 3:05 PM  

Their hands are tied with rules of engagement. Not disputing that the top men comment is true, but they are not running away. They are just driving off. Our SF are still pretty bad men and would mop those fuck heads up in a minute if given the chance. They don't trust the ones they are working with either. Some of these guys are good friends of mine. I don't know how they tolerate it.

Blogger bob k. mando ( the hardest troll here ) September 16, 2016 3:05 PM  

6. Philipp September 16, 2016 2:58 PM
Honestly, the Western media and leaders really believe that.



NO.

they believe that that is the *only* characterization which should be allowed to be talked about in public.

there's a difference.

Blogger Bard September 16, 2016 3:08 PM  

Cucktastrophe at the top

Anonymous kfg September 16, 2016 3:09 PM  

"Their hands are tied with rules of engagement."

Obviously.

And who determined those rules of engagement? And how are the "optics" of it working out for them?

Blogger Bard September 16, 2016 3:11 PM  

SF is the only part of the military that is not fully converged. The rest is a disaster

Blogger Bard September 16, 2016 3:14 PM  

Top men of course, generals that want to be politicians. And the Washington cucks. But those rag head fucks yelling at those restrained pitbulls is the same as a woman not fearing a man's strength

Blogger bob k. mando ( the hardest troll here ) September 16, 2016 3:18 PM  

12. Bard September 16, 2016 3:05 PM
Their hands are tied with rules of engagement.



let's be honest here, the FSA running them out of town is the same people the commandos just got done training and funding.

nominally, they are our allies.

it'd be kind of bad optics if you started shooting up the guys you just put through a 6 month training camp, regardless of whatever RoE are in play.

and it's also not like any of the FSA were shooting at our guys, nor did any of our men get killed or injured ... or even really threatened.

i'm not sure what you expect to happen, i certainly don't think we're going to RoE of "just roll up and start shooting the fuck out of ragheads for being ragheads" any time soon.

Blogger Bard September 16, 2016 3:24 PM  

No, but the optics are a great story to make them look cowardly and they are some of the fiercest men I have ever met. It is a disgrace.

Blogger Escoffier September 16, 2016 3:24 PM  

300 minutes? That's a lotta minutes!

Anonymous Philipp September 16, 2016 3:33 PM  

@13: "they believe that that is the *only* characterization which should be allowed to be talked about in public."

Bob, I hope you are right. At least that would mean that our leaders are not utterly stupid.

Blogger Robert Coble September 16, 2016 3:36 PM  

"well, that's what happens when you put Top Women in charge. they say that it's the man's responsibility to fix what they fucked up."

Is that why Shrilliary wants to put Slick Willie in charge of the economy?

Anonymous andon September 16, 2016 3:37 PM  

I put the blame for this stuff right in the oval office. he made it clear that people are welcome to blame America for everything.

Anonymous Napoleon 12pdr September 16, 2016 3:39 PM  

"Crusader war"? They have NO idea just what that term could really mean.

Bottled sunshine FTW.

Blogger James Dixon September 16, 2016 3:53 PM  

> “Christians and Americans have no place among us,”

And yet we're considered xenophobic if we say the same thing about them. Strange how that works, isn't it?

Blogger Old Ez September 16, 2016 3:55 PM  

I would be curious to hear VD's opinion on whether these Special Ops guys should or should not face some kind of legal consequences for rendering aid and comfort to al Qaeda/al Nusra?

Anonymous Casey September 16, 2016 3:56 PM  

I think a lot of the reason for soldiers lack of aggression in a situation like this is because men aren't joining the military to fight wars these days. They're joining the military to have a job that provides health insurance.

The pay is the same if you're engaged in a firefight or back at the base drinking a cold beer.

After all, this isn't a real war.

Anonymous jamsco September 16, 2016 4:01 PM  

"We've got top men running this war. Top men."

I would just like to call out the ROTLA reference here.

Blogger Dexter September 16, 2016 4:03 PM  

"I think a lot of the reason for soldiers lack of aggression in a situation like this is because men aren't joining the military to fight wars these days. They're joining the military to have a job that provides health insurance."

Nobody joins Special Forces for a job with health insurance.

They are not shooting because they were ordered not to shoot.

Blogger Unknown September 16, 2016 4:06 PM  

@18 "...i certainly don't think we're going to RoE of "just roll up and start shooting the fuck out of ragheads for being ragheads" any time soon."

Those days are coming again soon enough. Like VD says, your skin will be your uniform in the coming decades.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents September 16, 2016 4:09 PM  

FSA chases SpecOps out of some mud hut village?

The Free Shit Army sure does get around, I thought it was confined to cities in North America.

Blogger Unknown September 16, 2016 4:09 PM  

@12
Many of them don't, and bail at the first opportunity. I retired in 2014, and am glad I did, I won't have to see the end game of what an SJW converged DoD will look like from the inside. It was already bad enough by the time I left.

Blogger bob k. mando ( the hardest troll here ) September 16, 2016 4:10 PM  

19. Bard September 16, 2016 3:24 PM
It is a disgrace.



it is a disgrace that we ( the US ) are funding, arming and training Muslims while allowing Christians to be genocided from their ancestral homes of thousands of years.

if your SF buddies had standards, they'd have never been there in the first place.

but, since they decided it was worth that 30 pieces of silver to go over and help the sand niggers, they have no business complaining when no gratitude is shown them for their efforts. they ( the SF ) aren't anything but kafir, after all.

sand niggers gonna sand nigger. it's like asking the scorpion why he stung you. they're frankly lucky they didn't drive over a 1000lb IED on the way out.



21. Philipp September 16, 2016 3:33 PM
At least that would mean that our leaders are not utterly stupid.


you prefer them to be overtly evil?

i'm not sure that's the best choice in the binary.



27. Casey September 16, 2016 3:56 PM
I think a lot of the reason for soldiers lack of aggression in a situation like this



there is NOTHING FOR THEM TO RESPOND TOO, YOU TWIT.

jesus, it's just some idiots screaming insults.

the British troops at the Boston Massacre, *they* were fully justified because they were being surrounded AND STONED with cobbles. that's an actual attempt to kill.

i didn't see anyone in those videos do anything more than wave a rifle over their head ( brandishing, true ) in NON-FIRING position and certainly never aimed at the US troops. there is no credible threat to be responded to there.

Blogger bob k. mando ( the hardest troll here ) September 16, 2016 4:15 PM  

30. Unknown September 16, 2016 4:06 PM
Those days are coming again soon enough.


i don't disagree with that.

nor do i even think it's a bad idea, especially in the US or Europe. in Syria? that's pretty stupid. far more cost effective to clean them out of Detroit or Paris than fly all the way around the world to some useless, dusty hellhole that we wouldn't want after we cleaned them out anyways.

but that's not what's happening today and i certainly don't expect it to happen while Hussein Obama holds office.

Anonymous VFM #6306 September 16, 2016 4:30 PM  

I would have guessed the quote was from Indian Alone and the Last Cruzade

Blogger James Dixon September 16, 2016 4:36 PM  

> I would be curious to hear VD's opinion on whether these Special Ops guys should or should not face some kind of legal consequences for rendering aid and comfort to al Qaeda/al Nusra?

No, they're following orders. Now, the people who are giving them those orders. Well, let's just say Kratman is probably kinder than I would be.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan September 16, 2016 4:43 PM  

Waste of money, what clowns run the show in DC, perhaps the SF could go there and clean it out.

Free America!

Blogger Cash September 16, 2016 4:44 PM  

Aren't these the guys we spent a billion dollars each on?

Blogger sapopular September 16, 2016 4:48 PM  

Student in Blue wrote:"crusader war"

It's telling that this pops up twice in close proximity. How much do you want to bet that the original word was "jihad"?

Now, why are they translating jihad, which practically everyone knows, and trying to hammer in CRUSADER WAR instead?

This will be on the test, students. First two guesses don't count.



Probably they used CRUSADER WAR because they still live in 7th century. "Jihad" is an Islamic term referring to the religious duty of Muslims to maintain and spread the religion. All "jihad" is pro islam.

Anonymous VFM #9617 September 16, 2016 4:48 PM  

Tok kek, no big deal here, the Turks were just delivering some top kek to the FSA.

Anonymous AzDesertRat September 16, 2016 4:54 PM  

The only way I DIDN'T waste my early 20's is if the things Uncle Sam taught me in the Big Sandbox end up becoming useful here on the "homefront". Which, frankly, wouldn't be a good thing.
I wonder if those on the left (not the SJW's and the goofball college kids, but the big thinkers, the long game folks) realize what kind of risk they've created for themselves by dragging out all these bullshit little "wars" across the ME? Sure, you've managed to do an incredible amount of behind the scenes damage to the nation by never allowing us to win... but on the other hand, you have a significant population of white males in their 20's and 30's that have seen the elephant. AND you are now proudly proclaiming from the rooftops that they are the sole source of all evil under the sun...
My youngest brother is 13 years younger than me. I was out before he graduated high school, yet we trade stories about the same bases in the 'Stan because he is being deployed to the same shitty ass valley's over there that I was, circa 2002.

Blogger Bard September 16, 2016 5:07 PM  

Well Bob, it has been my experience, mind you not my opinion, that there is a very small subset of men that can actually do what those guys do. It is a combination of intelligence, fitness, and dedication that I have not encountered anywhere else. Not in sports, or the gym, or in your local fight Club. They are killers. Saying that if they had any sense they wouldn't do what they do is akin to telling a young black athlete he shouldn't run the ball. Some men have to test themselves because they can and because you can't.

Anonymous Ezekiel Cassandros September 16, 2016 5:08 PM  

Clearly, the solution is for large numbers of Americans to emigrate to Syria and not assimilate into the local culture. If enough of us do that, they will become used to us and our customs, and the hatred will end.

Blogger Bard September 16, 2016 5:11 PM  

And I am not equating myself with them because although I have supported them most of my career,I don't have it either. Plenty of people think they do.

Blogger bob k. mando ( the hardest troll here ) September 16, 2016 5:17 PM  

37. Mr.MantraMan September 16, 2016 4:43 PM
Waste of money, what clowns run the show in DC,



not at all, we enriched a bunch of ((( American patriots ))).

we enriched them so much, ((( Hollywood ))) even made a movie telling you what they were doing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Dogs_%282016_film%29

Blogger bob k. mando ( the hardest troll here ) September 16, 2016 5:19 PM  

42. Bard September 16, 2016 5:07 PM
Some men have to test themselves because they can and because you can't.



oh.

well then, i guess you need to sack up and quit whining about how they were rewarded for their work.

you know, that work which they "had" to do.

after all, they're man enough that THEY aren't whining about it.

Blogger Bard September 16, 2016 5:21 PM  

No one is whining Mr. Does men, now sell some more insurance

Blogger Aeoli Pera September 16, 2016 5:30 PM  

We've got top men running this war. Top men.

Do they remember they're supposed to be running a war? Has anyone checked on them lately? I haven't seen Dennis in years but my spreadsheet says we're still paying him a salary.

Anonymous Wyrd the Adorable Deplorable September 16, 2016 5:31 PM  

Putin is Harambe's Hand. Anyone foolish enough to go against him deserves to horribly die in a holocaust (((tee-hee))) of wildfire.

Blogger Aeoli Pera September 16, 2016 5:32 PM  

Maybe they're focusing their strategy on the TRUE threat to America...a cartoon frog co-opted by misogynistic white nationalists.

Blogger bob k. mando ( the hardest troll here ) September 16, 2016 5:35 PM  

12. Bard September 16, 2016 3:05 PM
Their hands are tied with rules of engagement.



this is whining, you pansy ass.

nothing was done in those videos which would merit a MILITARY ( ie - lethal ) response. their hands weren't "tied", there was no response they could make which wouldn't get them charged with Assault and Battery or Attempted Murder if they did it here in the States.

to be hurling insults back at the Sand Niggers would
a - have been breaking military discipline, for which their officers would be rightly reprimanding them
b - be escalating the situation to a possible exchange of fire and actual casualties, which is just fucking stupid given the situation

you think the optics you've got NOW are bad? wait til we get SF operatives brought up on charges of massacring the troops Obama sent them over there to train.

RoE have nothing to do with this. you don't like video like this? call your Congress critters and demand the troops be brought home.

like i said before, Sand Niggers gonna Sand Nigger.

try aiding your friends instead of your enemies and you might receive compliments for your efforts.

Blogger Matamoros September 16, 2016 5:36 PM  

Vox, this is off topic; but any ideas on how to stop Obama giving the internet to the UN?

Blogger Bard September 16, 2016 5:55 PM  

It is not about compliments. It is a disaster. It is a powerful tool of visual rhetoric and an extreme example of the lunacy of our current policy on display for the whole world to witness. However, they have a job to do, one they chose for reasons you don't have to like or agree with, but it is silly to question their "standards". The intent is to show how ridiculous the current strategy has become, I simply wanted to point to out they didn't leave out of cowardice. I can't call my congressman and demand the troops come home because I am one of them. I disagree with all of it, but unfortunately have 2 years left on a 4 year service obligation. I know the sandpeople very well. They are dogs.

Blogger Chris Mallory September 16, 2016 5:55 PM  

"Some men have to test themselves because they can and because you can't."

So glad we are bankrupting the nation so these guys can "test themselves". Lets see them test themselves by getting married, raising a family, and doing something productive instead off living off the government tit. Even selling insurance would be more honorable.

Blogger horsewithnonick September 16, 2016 5:58 PM  

"Now go away or I shall taunt you a second time!"

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Anonymous BGKB September 16, 2016 6:02 PM  

i certainly don't think we're going to RoE of "just roll up and start shooting the fuck out of ragheads for being ragheads" any time soon."

The current ROE for special forces is that you will get court martialed for beating up someone raping a child in front of you. http://www.military.com/daily-news/2015/08/21/army-kicking-out-green-beret-who-stood-up-for-afghan-rape-victim.html

Blogger Bard September 16, 2016 6:10 PM  

Bankrupting the nation is a special forces MOS that is not allowed to be openly discussed. Most are married and raising families. In fact, many are strong Christians. I love the government tit defense. It is as powerful as Wonder Woman's bracelets. Insurance is certainly more honorable than soldiering. Most people picture insurance and used cars salesmen as the pinnacle of respectable non self serving occupations.

Blogger Bard September 16, 2016 6:18 PM  

What type of insurance do you sell Chris?

Blogger Unknown September 16, 2016 6:19 PM  

This has always been BOTH jihad and crusade. Can't have one without the other this side of the Caliphate.

America is being used to resource the defence of Jerusalem, whether it likes it or not. Except the stiff-necked Zionists can't help but worship their idols and instead are resourcing its fall.

If you truly want America to survive, stop agitating for war, pull your nose out of world politics, rediscover your garden and grow something other than a movement.

Blogger Bard September 16, 2016 6:21 PM  

Used car?

Blogger Chris Mallory September 16, 2016 6:22 PM  

@59
I don't. But I learned after one enlistment that ended back in 1988 that anyone who stayed was nothing but a sucker.

Running around in 3rd world shitholes has nothing to do with defending the nation. It burns money that could be used to defend our nation.

We need to scrap the Army totally and replace it with a citizen's militia forbidden from every going overseas. But that would break the rice bowls of a lot of those SF MOS guys, wouldn't it? Let them go play Gi Joe on someone else's dime.

Blogger Chris Mallory September 16, 2016 6:23 PM  

You are one of those all day suckers, aren't you?

Blogger Chris Mallory September 16, 2016 6:25 PM  

The Founders warned against standing armies for a reason. The last 100 years shows why.

Blogger Bard September 16, 2016 6:30 PM  

Per rules of the blog, I am required to answer. Not really, no. Please don't project. SJW do that. Now please answer the question.

Blogger Cataline Sergius September 16, 2016 6:33 PM  

There is clearly some brilliant stategery taking place in the Pentagon these days. These gentlemen are clearly read to fight WWIII against a Sino-Russian alliance

Honestly this is about what happened every time we were turned over to the UN.

My worst nightmare has come to pass. The UN has followed us home.

Thank you President Obama.

Blogger Bard September 16, 2016 6:38 PM  

Thanks. I knew you didn't sell insurance. I was just fucking with you. I agree with most of what you said. I don't consider myself to be a sucker. Life happens, stop loss, then you make a decision to stay. It is just a job like all others.

Blogger Bard September 16, 2016 6:39 PM  

It is not inherently any more or less honorable than any other, but there are a lot of honorable men serving.

Anonymous Wyrd the Adorable Deplorable September 16, 2016 6:42 PM  

Life happens, stop loss, then you make a decision to stay. It is just a job like all others.

Indeed. Was reflecting on Solzhenitsyn's The Gulag Archipelago earlier today. He didn't ask for any of that crap; but it swamped him. Made him closer to God, though.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Deplorable Cents September 16, 2016 6:59 PM  

Great optics for the Jihadis. "Look how the Crusaders flee from our taunts, and our women's taunts!". Should be useful as a recruiting tool for them.

4 GW fail on the US side?

Anonymous Wyrd the Adorable Deplorable September 16, 2016 7:03 PM  

4 GW fail on the US side?

With President Buck-Naked constantly condemning Christianity because "Muh Crusades", yeah pretty much.

Blogger Bard September 16, 2016 7:10 PM  


horsewithnonickSeptember 16, 2016 5:58 PM
"Now go away or I shall taunt you a second time!"

Perfect. 4GW fail. Think of the memes.

Blogger Montrose September 16, 2016 7:17 PM  

I am alright with an incompetent army and police.

Blogger Bard September 16, 2016 7:21 PM  

It is incompetent in defense too.

Anonymous Anonymous September 16, 2016 7:30 PM  

Sounds like a propaganda piece. Having not seen the video I cant say for sure but this definitely sounds like militarily aggressive media, another chess piece is being advanced by the world dictatorship's fight against humanity.

Blogger ZhukovG September 16, 2016 8:24 PM  

I was just following orders is a defense with poor legal precedent.

Sadly, in my years of service, I too followed a few orders I wish I hadn't. I just hope, should it come to it, that our troops will refuse orders to shoot Americans.

Blogger Unknown September 16, 2016 8:36 PM  

@75
I wouldn't hold my breath on that one. I've seen what the new recruits look like, they are just as clueless as college freshman. There are some who have their head straight, and would refuse, but I am sad to say that today's military would obey that order. So would both Federal and State LEO, in enough numbers that it wouldn't matter.

Blogger Elder Son September 16, 2016 8:40 PM  

Whether the SOF guys left of their own accord, left because told to do so by REMF, or fled because outnumbered and out gunned, is besides the point.

Syria is a cluster-puck. And our "Top Men" made it that way.

By the way, while SOF are exceptional fighters, they are not impervious to being outnumbered and outgunned, regardless of peoples love affair and worship of SOF.

Blogger Lazarus September 16, 2016 9:03 PM  

ZhukovG wrote:Sadly, in my years of service, I too followed a few orders I wish I hadn't. I just hope, should it come to it, that our troops will refuse orders to shoot Americans.

But they will not be shooting "Americans". They will be shooting "Deplorables".

Do you see?

Blogger Tom Kratman September 16, 2016 9:33 PM  

Oddly enough, we don't have any "commandos."

Blogger bob k. mando ( the hardest troll here ) September 16, 2016 9:41 PM  

53. Bard September 16, 2016 5:55 PM
It is a powerful tool of visual rhetoric and an extreme example of the lunacy of our current policy on display for the whole world to witness.



no one is disagreeing with any of that.

don't know if you've noticed this yet, but the entire Obama "Peace Prize" presidency has been a powerful tool of visual rhetoric and an extreme example of the lunacy of our current policy on display for the whole world to witness from the get go. starting with his failed Olympic bid.



58. Bard September 16, 2016 6:10 PM
Most people picture insurance and used cars salesmen as the pinnacle of respectable non self serving occupations.



this attitude RIGHT HERE is exactly why the Founders did NOT want a standing army.

you know WHO is Constitutionally responsible for the defense of the nation?

THE MILITIA. and the militia is every able bodied male of age to carry a weapon. ie - those car and insurance salesmen you despise so much.

so, fuck you very much for your arrogant anti-Constitutional attitude.

"I, (state name of enlistee), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic"


just to forestall any more of your stupidity, no, i don't sell anything. i'm a CDL truck driver in construction.



68. Bard September 16, 2016 6:39 PM
It is not inherently any more or less honorable than any other, but there are a lot of honorable men serving.


a - this is completely at odds with everything else you've said in this thread, what with all your shit talking car and insurance salesmen

b - how much 'honor' does an honorable man possess if he permits himself to used ( yes, USED ) for dishonorable purposes?

Anonymous Pennywise September 16, 2016 9:46 PM  

Sans the arrogant sarcasm, yes, our Special Forces are ready to fight WW3.

He will win who knows when to fight and when not to fight.

Blogger Elder Son September 16, 2016 10:00 PM  

He will win who knows when to fight and when not to fight.

REMF didn't get the memo.

Anonymous FP September 16, 2016 10:02 PM  

@58

"I love the government tit defense. It is as powerful as Wonder Woman's bracelets. Insurance is certainly more honorable than soldiering. Most people picture insurance and used cars salesmen as the pinnacle of respectable non self serving occupations."

Indeed. Reminds me of the guys who come back from the sandbox and join up with agencies like the ATF. "Just glad to be back in the fight and ready to get the bad guys!"

Didn't properly fill out your ATF forms? Thats a swatting. That or just burning women and children, for budget justifications.

Anonymous NateM September 16, 2016 10:20 PM  

I, for one, look forward to the inevitable conquering of the US by the forces of General Butt Naked.

Blogger bob k. mando ( the hardest troll here ) September 16, 2016 10:27 PM  

79. Tom Kratman September 16, 2016 9:33 PM
Oddly enough, we don't have any "commandos."



ah, there we go.

Col. Tom ( ret ), since junior Bardman of America over here thinks i'm unfit to answer his complaint about RoE conditions, perhaps you could chime in?

how SHOULD the SF forces have responded in this situation? no RoE or any RoE of your preference.

what would the correct course of action for them have been?

Blogger JaimeInTexas September 16, 2016 10:28 PM  

It is not the ROE, it is that these uSA have no business over there.

Blogger Thucydides September 17, 2016 12:04 AM  

I feel for these American soldiers though. They are thrust into the frying pan with little support and no clear strategy to execute. The last successful play was gathering the Northern Alliance to kick the Taliban's ass as America's foot soldiers in Afghanistan, so in the absence of any plan form Washington, they are trying to recreate what worked in the past.

Unless there is an actual, you know, strategy in place with defined goals and end states, the Americans cold arm 1,000,000 Syrians and still get nowhere. After the election, the new Administration will certainly sit down and decide what the end goal should be (if it is a Trump Administration), or fritter away American lives for whoever provides the biggest donation to the Clinton Foundation (if it is not a Trump Administration).

The Canadian Forces is trying the same strategy with the Kurds with a bit more success, the Kurds are a warrior people with ambitions to carve out a homeland for themselves and so have some real motivation to perform. I'm not as sure Ottawa has actually figured that out yet....

Blogger Alexandros September 17, 2016 2:01 AM  

@8 Mot vets I know have nothing but contempt for everyone in that region except for those who worked with the Kurds. The vets I know of who worked with the Kurds would go to war with them any day of the week.


I've had a different experience, but different national policies and end games tend to motivate the confirmation bias of the people I talk to.

Blogger Bard September 17, 2016 10:20 AM  

We don't have any business there. But that doesn't change the fact that we are. What is the name of the militia you belong to Bob and what is your rank and level of influence and authority? Surely you are a strong prescence and not snarking your opinion over the radio of your truck? I mean the notion of a militia is noble, but that is not the way things are any longer. But I imagine the notion is enough for you and it makes your feel good knowing you have done a great service by sharing it. Bob the Builder. Classic. Drive your truck BTB. We will man the gates. You just appealed to Col Tom's military authority precisely because he actually served which makes him "a sucker" as Chris pointed out above. Also noted was your attempt to isolate and team with him to boost your credibility which is very SJW. Pathetic, but hey, I like the Jr. Bardsmen of America. Would make a great militia name.

Blogger Bard September 17, 2016 10:24 AM  

You should start that. Done here. See you on another thread. Stay thirsty my friend.

Anonymous Anonymous September 17, 2016 3:09 PM  

I think ISIS and other Muslims say "crusader" as being on the other side, just like the Soviets would have said "imperialist" or what-not.

Blogger Roger G2 September 17, 2016 4:26 PM  

I must admit, while watching the vid, and feeling the cringe and ignorance of the fighters-who are always begging for help on arms and cash, but never mind that-I did get more of a sense of respect for these assholes than I will ever have for the fighting-age hordes fleeing the region.
At least these guys grabbed themselves up by the bootstraps and decided to fight back against the regime.

Anonymous Full-Fledged Fiasco September 17, 2016 5:13 PM  

Sonny Corleone was right: "Bunch of saps."

Blogger Dirk Manly September 18, 2016 3:42 AM  

One other thing... The SF's main mission is to train indiginous forces (so as to minimize the number of American boys shipped over to fight the fight). If the SF trained these guys, then they did one thing very successfully -- they formed a coherent team. This is very little different from what Drill Sergeants do... if his entire platoon of recruits is working against him -- he is successful.

The BIGGEST weakness of all Arab-region fighting forces is a complete lack of teamwork.

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