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Monday, September 05, 2016

Not-White, anti-Right, forever

Tom Teicholz rebukes Dennis Prager's appeal to conservatism and explains why Jews will always be self-appointed enemies to the Alt-Right, to conservatives, and to and the interests of America and the European nations in the Jewish Journal:
Jews will always believe Black Lives matter because Jews do not think of themselves as “White People.” You have but to walk down a street in Tel Aviv to see the multiplicity of Jewish skin colors. You have but to live as a Jew in any time in history, in any country including the United States, to recognize we are not the White People – we were not the White People allowed into certain clubs, schools, neighborhoods for most of American history. We are not the people rallying for “white people’s rights.” As Ta-Nehisi Coates has written more eloquently that I ever will, “Our notion of what constitutes “white” and what constitutes “black” is a product of social context.”

Dennis Prager makes much of how the Left has often betrayed Jews. He is not wrong about that. But he is wrong in thinking that means Jews should stop supporting the causes of the Left. Consider the alternative: How have Jews fared under the right? Far worse. In Egypt, or under the Greeks and Romans, in Spain and Portugal under the Inquisition, in Europe during the Reformation, in France at the time of Dreyfus, or in Hitler’s Germany or his Reichlands. Consider the fate of Jewish lives under right wing governments in Hungary or Poland – are they better off than they were under Leftist regimes? One can even ask, as members of the Israeli Knesset have, whether more Israelis have died as a result of the policies of the current right-wing Likud government than in those years when Labor was in power (they have).

Leonard Bernstein was ridiculed for hosting a party for the Black Panthers. But Bernstein’s compassion and sense of Justice led him to lead the Palestine Symphony Orchestra in 1947 and as it became the Israel Philharmonic in Beersheba in November 1948 and almost every year of his life. His heart was large, his passion great and he was not wrong to support the cause of Black Pride and African American self-empowerment, even if its leaders had not so great a heart as his.

Jews will always agitate for and support causes of the Left, because we are commanded to be a beacon unto others and to see social activism and seeking Justice, Tikkun Olam and Tzedaka, as part of the Jewish DNA.
The next time someone claims that the Right, whether Alt-Right or some other variety, is antisemitic and Holocaust, it should prove useful to observe that, in their own words:
  • "All the non-Jews that you see all around the world, the billions, they exist just for the Jew's benefit."
  • "Jews will always agitate for and support causes of the Left."
Now, which of those statements do you not oppose? Are you down with both of them?

Before anyone produces the expected NAJALT argument, I should first be very interested to learn why you are intent on playing defense attorney HERE on behalf of those with whom you supposedly disagree rather than actively opposing those making such statements THERE.

And furthermore, as I pointed out to one Jewish gentleman on Twitter, one can expect the Alt-Right to stop quoting living Jews concerning their beliefs and objectives at about the same time that the opponents of the Alt-Right stop calling us Nazis, racists, and anti-semites. We are not conservatives. We do not hesitate to use the other side's tactics. See: Point 12.

Some say that makes us SJWs. Does it make us Jews as well?

As he responded, "I can't fault the alt-right for lumping all Jews in with our worst crazies when so many Jews do the same to Whites."

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143 Comments:

Anonymous Wyrd September 05, 2016 1:35 PM  

Nothing says "I've gone full retard" like "As Ta-Nehisi Coates has written more eloquently that I ever will..."

Blogger GFR September 05, 2016 1:50 PM  

Weren't the Nazis and communists left wing?

Blogger Noah B September 05, 2016 1:51 PM  

OK, I'll take the NAJALT bait. Mr. Teicholz claims here that race is essentially viewed as a social construct by Jews, but if that were the case, Ethiopian Jews wouldn't find themselves sterilized and/or deported after reaching the promised land. Obviously there are a significant number of Jews who do not share his professed liberal perspective on race.

Blogger Stilicho September 05, 2016 1:52 PM  

The symphony of collectivist squee emanating from the left, Neocons, and various tribal groups as they congratulate each other for opposing the rights of white nations to exist is hilarious. So brave!

Blogger JACIII September 05, 2016 1:53 PM  

GFR wrote:Weren't the Nazis and communists left wing?

They associate nationalism with right wing regardless of other politics.

Blogger jim September 05, 2016 1:56 PM  

All Notions Matter!..

Blogger Krul September 05, 2016 1:58 PM  

Terrible writing in that article. The author clearly missed out on the high verbal IQ.

Anonymous 6184 September 05, 2016 1:59 PM  

Nationalism for me but not for thee. Teicholz makes me sick. One can't confuse influence with power forever. He'll get his.

Anonymous Tim September 05, 2016 2:06 PM  

"...in the Jewish Journal"

There's a Jewish Journal? Seems to me they're ALL Jewish journals.

Anonymous Tim September 05, 2016 2:08 PM  

from the article...

"As Jews we are commanded each year at the Passover to feel as if we were in Egypt as slaves."

He forgot to add, "the other 364 days each year we have no problem selling others into slavery."

Anonymous Bowman September 05, 2016 2:08 PM  

"Jews will always agitate for and support causes of the Left, [...] as part of the Jewish DNA."
If that's true, and it does look like it is at some extent, Jewish DNA is pure parasitism and as such should be PHYSICALLY REMOVED* by the host for its own good.

*so to speak

Anonymous Sean September 05, 2016 2:12 PM  

It's interesting that Tom assuredly enlists the future support of Jews for ideologies and demagogues that have enabled their plight to exert control over the mindset of the goyim through collectivist forms of government in the past century. For him, it's impossible to consider any Jew breaking from the Narrative of social justice in order to examine fundamental principles of freedom that are necessary for the growth of advanced civilizations.

Anonymous LastRedoubt September 05, 2016 2:13 PM  

Ta-Nehisi Coates - the guy can put pretty words on paper, but is a delusional moron.

Anyone evoking him favorably is as well.

In this context, it makes Vox's point even stronger.

Anonymous LastRedoubt September 05, 2016 2:14 PM  

@wyrd

Dammit - beat me to it..

Blogger Mr.MantraMan September 05, 2016 2:19 PM  

We're headed in the right direction, there will be no need for Nazi street politics to put the world healing scam in our rear view mirrors. They can go heal China, that might be fun to watch.

Now if these jews would only double down on the anti-white rhetoric to speed up this divorce and speed up our societal evolution it would be better.

Blogger Krul September 05, 2016 2:19 PM  

I've pretty much lost patience for NAXALT. Outliers exist, you say? Well then by all means, let's just ignore the other 99.9% of your people who support socialism or Sharia law or some other garbage.

The fact is that being non-white (including Jewish) is a reliable indicator that a person holds shit-stupid political opinions that, if implemented, would destroy Western civilization. If the people in those groups want to be taken seriously, they should get their own houses in order first.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents September 05, 2016 2:21 PM  

So the next time a 17 year old white girl is kidnapped, raped, murdered and tossed in an alligator pond by some Only Black LIves Matter types who look just like Obama's son would, we can count on Teicholz to stand up and be counted, right?

Because that would totally Tikkun the Olam, for sure.

Anonymous Bowman September 05, 2016 2:28 PM  

"support causes of the Left [...] as part of the Jewish DNA"
Please provide the actual DNA sequence.
For PHYSICAL REMOVAL purposes.

Blogger Desillusionerad September 05, 2016 2:30 PM  

"How have Jews fared under the right? Far worse. In Egypt, or under the Greeks and Romans, in Spain and Portugal under the Inquisition, in Europe during the Reformation, in France at the time of Dreyfus, or in Hitler’s Germany or his Reichlands."

I wasnt aware that the right wing was in power at virtualy any of those points, as most predate the whole concept of 'left wing and right wing' - and also, the biggest fucking pet peeve - National socialists.
Not national conservatives.
So yeah Go nuts, blaming the right for all the problems of the jews.

OpenID randkoch September 05, 2016 2:31 PM  

The problem with not invoking NAJALT is that not all Jews are as stupid like the guy who wrote that piece.

Or rather, NAJATFS.

But VD is correct in that we need to argue with the scum who are that stupid. Or rather, with the scum who make up their support network. I've got twitter blocks to show that I have. Not enough, though, so I will work on that.

Blogger Aeoli Pera September 05, 2016 2:37 PM  

I've always felt like a Jew on the inside.

Blogger Aeoli Pera September 05, 2016 2:38 PM  

Trans-holocaust survivor.

Blogger Stilicho September 05, 2016 2:40 PM  

@22 holosexual

Blogger Nemontel September 05, 2016 2:40 PM  

We desperately need a racial divorce with the wandering Tribe. We have been living in a broken and abusive marriage for far too long with them. They already have their ethnostate, it is time that they all move there.

Blogger Stilicho September 05, 2016 2:40 PM  

@22 holosexual

Blogger Matthew September 05, 2016 2:41 PM  

Dear Jews,

We just want you to leave us alone. You don't like us, even when we do everything we can for you. Why insist on following us everywhere we go?

Please stop stalking us.

Sincerely,

A Saxon

Blogger Stilicho September 05, 2016 2:42 PM  

I'm starting to think that the Ten Lost Tribes got the better deal.

Blogger Aeoli Pera September 05, 2016 2:48 PM  

Matthew wrote:Dear Jews,

We just want you to leave us alone. You don't like us, even when we do everything we can for you. Why insist on following us everywhere we go?

Please stop stalking us.

Sincerely,

A Saxon


In a herder society, animal sacrifice means you're burning money. What happens when you tell a shepherd "people can also be beasts"?

Blogger Aeoli Pera September 05, 2016 2:52 PM  

Putting this seed into more Gnostic terms, what if you tell a shepherd it's not DNA that differentiates man from animal, but rather a Higher Consciousness that can't be detected?

Blogger Aeoli Pera September 05, 2016 2:55 PM  

This is why I tell people the only meaningful question in political science is slavery.

Anonymous Philipp September 05, 2016 2:57 PM  

@2: Yes, the Nazis were left-wing. After all, the official name of the Nazi Party was National Socialist German Workers Party. That is not a name that a party of the right would choose.

And the right was also not in power during late-19th century France when the Dreyfus affair happened.

Blogger guest September 05, 2016 3:08 PM  

Yeah, per wiki, "Jazz Jennings" the transgender male whose family is helping push the lgbtq agenda on the US is Jewish:

"Jennings was born October 6, 2000 in South Florida to parents Greg and Jeanette ("Jennings" is a pseudonym).[7][8] The family is Jewish,[9] and their last name is "a very Jewish, long last name."[10] Jennings has an older sister, Ari, and two older brothers, twins Sander and Griffen.[11]

Jennings was assigned male at birth. In 2004, Jennings was diagnosed with gender identity disorder as a child, making her one of the youngest publicly documented people to be identified as transgender.[1][12] Jennings made it clear as soon as she could speak that she was female, and although the family presented her publicly in gender-neutral clothing, she wanted to be presented in feminine clothing.[4]"

When I read that, it gave me an entirely new perspective on Jews in the US. Ben Shapiro might just be an exception that proves the rule. He might be more comfortable converting to fundamentalist Christianity, and leaving behind, whatever he thinks might be valuable, from a religious group that doesn't share his values.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 05, 2016 3:08 PM  

Philipp wrote:Yes, the Nazis were left-wing. After all, the official name of the Nazi Party was National Socialist German Workers Party. That is not a name that a party of the right would choose.
That's because you are using a conventional meaning of the word "Right". He is using a more modern one, which encompasses any attempt to make the governments of White nations serve the interests of their White citizens.
That's how the Front National or AfD can be described as "Right", because they propose to work for the interests of the French and the Germans, respectively.

And the Goys are not to be allowed that.

Blogger Noah B September 05, 2016 3:09 PM  

According to Political Compass, Hitler was an economically moderate Authoritarian. I believe official NSDAP policy was actually somewhat to the economic right of Hitler in order to maintain the favor of the industrialists.
https://www.politicalcompass.org/analysis2

Blogger WrenchTurner September 05, 2016 3:10 PM  

Oy vey such persecution by the Spanish after the reconquista all we did was help the muslims a little bit.

Anonymous UlricKerensky September 05, 2016 3:11 PM  

I'm confused by the part about Likud being more dangerous than the Left-Wing parties. The writer is a hardcore globalist if they believe that. Technically they specified deaths, but I'm not sure I'd go with that number either.

Blogger Robert Divinity September 05, 2016 3:13 PM  

This is why the next Crown Heights should be celebrated and the injured and slain mocked, the next Arab-Jewish conflict ignored unless it results in profit for us, and finally Israel treated the same as Saudi Arabia, as both a situational friend and a situational enemy. This parasite has attached himself firmly on the back of a tiger that will devour him. Let's hope it all gets filmed and Ta-Nehisi Coates writes eloquently about the "Jew bitch eaten like kosher ribs."

Blogger pyrrhus September 05, 2016 3:22 PM  

@16 Exactly. That's why we call exceptions "exceptions", because they don't change the rule.

Blogger kh123 September 05, 2016 3:25 PM  

As Noah B points out @3, Tsadiq Teicholz one minute goes on about how racially varied Jews in Israel are - "Yes, we even include some of Der Schwarzes", then the next says that they "see social activism and seeking Justice, Tikkun Olam and Tzedaka, as part of the Jewish DNA."

In one fell swoop, he basically confirms what Der Stürmer had said all along, that Jewish biology was somehow "shaped differently." Or is he saying that this is the transformative nature of Judaism and Zionism, some blend of Transubstantiation and Magic Dirt to turn chayyot into Adam, from cattle to human. (Or hey, as the article suggests, from Goy to Red.)

Nevermind the Falashas, here's a shiksa attempt at political commentary.

If you've ever seen footage of the families' attempts at lobbying the Israeli gov't during the Entebbe incident, it makes articles like the above all the less surprising. It's all emotional rhetoric.

Anonymous GreyS September 05, 2016 3:31 PM  

The answer is quite simple. As Jews we are commanded each year at the Passover to feel as if we were in Egypt as slaves. As slaves who were part of a liberation movement, we identify and support the cause of the oppressed. We identify with the cause of African-Americans in this country because they were slaves in this country.

What self-serving horseshit. You support BLM because it is anti-white (read anti-white Christian culture) and because you think you can control the blacks.

"We identify with slaves"? No-- you see the rest of the world as beneath you.

Blogger Were-Puppy September 05, 2016 3:35 PM  

Whatever all they are internally arguing about, Prager is not an ally of the alt-right in any shape or form. I think he is a nevertrump from the couple times I attempted listening to his radio show.

Blogger James Dixon September 05, 2016 3:40 PM  

> Weren't the Nazis and communists left wing?

You're not supposed to notice that minor detail.

> According to Political Compass, Hitler was an economically moderate Authoritarian. I believe official NSDAP policy was actually somewhat to the economic right of Hitler in order to maintain the favor of the industrialists.

Look at their position papers for yourself.

Blogger rogerhicks September 05, 2016 3:42 PM  

Ca. 10,000 German Jews died fighting for their German fatherland in WW1, against their fellow Jews fighting on the side of the Allies. Most European Jews identify with their host country and most Jewish intellectuals, at least, before the Holocaust, identified as Europeans.

You continue to make the elementary mistake of lumping ALL Jews together. The Jews you so strongly dislike are delighted that you do this, because it forces their fellow Jews to take their side against you and everything you stand for. You are playing into their hands. Doing exactly what they want you to do, so that they can dismiss you as an anti-Semite.

Most Jews are descent people and can be won as friends and allies, if you will just stop attacking them because they are Jews.

Blogger Were-Puppy September 05, 2016 3:44 PM  

LOL

Anonymous W. Lindsay Wheeler September 05, 2016 3:46 PM  

"Authoritarian-ism" is not a political spectrum. I wish people would study our Classical heritage. The Romans coined the term "autoritas" because it was an integral part of the Roman Republic as it was the Spartan Republic. Authority goes with Patriarchialism and Religion. It is central to Western Culture and Western Civilization.

--

Onto the topic at hand, the Jews are Master Genociders. They are instigators, the originators, the propagandists for One World, Babelism, World Unity, and Deracination. They are an Eastern people and have no business in the West.

Anonymous Wyrd September 05, 2016 3:47 PM  

Most Jews are descent people...

You don't say...

Blogger Robert Divinity September 05, 2016 3:51 PM  

Jews are descent people

They humor themselves with that horseshit, true.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents September 05, 2016 3:58 PM  

@41
Were-puppy, Prager leading edge boomer (born in '48), who's been divorced twice, and no surprise he's a big time blue pill White Knight.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 05, 2016 3:59 PM  

rogerhicks wrote:Ca. 10,000 German Jews died fighting for their German fatherland in WW1, against their fellow Jews fighting on the side of the Allies. Most European Jews identify with their host country and most Jewish intellectuals, at least, before the Holocaust, identified as Europeans.

You continue to make the elementary mistake of lumping ALL Jews together. The Jews you so strongly dislike are delighted that you do this, because it forces their fellow Jews to take their side against you and everything you stand for. You are playing into their hands. Doing exactly what they want you to do, so that they can dismiss you as an anti-Semite.

Most Jews are descent people and can be won as friends and allies, if you will just stop attacking them because they are Jews.


Look, we tried that in this country. What has it gotten us? We have a (((cabal))) running most of our institutions that is utterly dedicated to eliminating Christianity, Whites, and Western Civilization, and replacing us in our own country. They ave largely succeeded.

You speak as if there were no history since 1918.

Blogger kh123 September 05, 2016 4:01 PM  

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Anonymous JI September 05, 2016 4:02 PM  

Same old story, from the Old Testament on, over and over again, the Jews piss off God and the rest of us and some humbling ensues. Such a shame.

Blogger Ingot9455 September 05, 2016 4:07 PM  

I believe around here we call the good jews 'Israelis.'

OT: Was at a local gaming con in Northern California for a few hours Sunday and Monday. It's held at a hotel, and the hotel charges a reduced $5 parking fee for the con.

And I wore my freshly-delivered Trump/Pence 2016 t-shirt.

Sunday morning, it was about 50/50 on the doubletake-blink frowny-face versus doubletake-blink smile.

Monday morning, a couple people smiled and shook my hand, and the parking guy on the way out said, "Very nice shirt. Hey, why don't you just go on out?" and raised the gate while no one else was around.

My investment in Trump is already paying off!

Blogger kh123 September 05, 2016 4:11 PM  

Nobody wants fairweather friends.

Perhaps concern troll above will take a page from Vox, and go to where tikkun olam is preached. Maybe rail against them that their pushing of said-meme, the "healing of the world" via Social Justice, is forcing the rest of that world to see it as a vehicle to turn its peddlers into masters of the universe.

Maybe even drop us a link here to show their argumentative good faith in taking on the tribe.

Blogger Noah B September 05, 2016 4:11 PM  

@42 Look at their position papers for yourself.

I have. The economic far right basically believes that what's good for corporations is good for people, while the economic far left advocates total state control of the economy. Hitler occupied neither extreme, believing it was government's duty to help create conditions that were good for workers and their families, whom he rightfully saw as the future of the nation. After NSDAP took power, farming and industry remained predominantly private. While price and wage controls were implemented during the war, the same was also done in England and the US. Therefore I see nothing incorrect about classifying Hitler as an economic moderate.

Anonymous FP September 05, 2016 4:15 PM  

So what you're saying Roger is, keep on doing the same thing and expect different results? Ignore all history. Its not important.

Anonymous Fredo September 05, 2016 4:19 PM  

"All the non-Jews that you see all around the world, the billions, they exist just for the Jew's benefit."
"Jews will always agitate for and support causes of the Left."

In the same way not all whites are ignorant, anti Semitic bigots, not all Jews support leftist causes nor believe whites exist to serve them.

OpenID paworldandtimes September 05, 2016 4:30 PM  

Apparently Tikkun Olam simply means "abet the parasite, paralyze the host."

PA

Anonymous Mark Goldberg Horowitz Cohen September 05, 2016 4:35 PM  

Dennis Prager is a wonderful author. Great radio show too. I just love him.

Blogger James Dixon September 05, 2016 4:39 PM  

> Most Jews are descent people and can be won as friends and allies, if you will just stop attacking them because they are Jews.

Then I suggest they stop attacking all Trump supporters as racist, sexist, homophonic, Nazis first.

> The economic far right basically believes that what's good for corporations is good for people, while the economic far left advocates total state control of the economy.

Not all of politics is economics. They also supported gun control and government controlled schooling, just to give two examples.

> In the same way not all whites are ignorant, anti Semitic bigots, not all Jews support leftist causes nor believe whites exist to serve them.

We're not the ones you need to convince.

Anonymous CC September 05, 2016 4:47 PM  

More heel than heal...

Anonymous (((Irish))) September 05, 2016 4:50 PM  

"All the non-Jews that you see all around the world, the billions, they exist just for the Jew's benefit."

Vox- Please explain how the (((cherry picked straw-man))) you are quoting, read his (((Talmudic source))) wrong:

Isaiah 49:23New Living Translation (NLT)

23 Kings and queens will serve you and care for all your needs. They will bow to the earth before you and lick the dust from your feet. Then you will know that I am the Lord. Those who trust in me will never be put to shame.”

Blogger FrankNorman September 05, 2016 4:57 PM  

Consider the alternative: How have Jews fared under the right? Far worse.

Does it ever occur to someone like him to wonder WHY that is?

Blogger Aeoli Pera September 05, 2016 5:00 PM  

The trouble with decent Jews is that their children regress to the mean.

Blogger kh123 September 05, 2016 5:04 PM  

...When there's an existential threat, you get siege mentality and band together. Tribalism. It's the reason why the Ashkenaz hasidim in the video Vox posted this past week can go on about how the goyim build things, they do everything, they serve the Jews in an unseen mystical way now but openly later on... And on a public street in Jerusalem. Because when shit gets real, you tolerate even the layabout village idiots, if their idiocy revolves around an unquestioning (and perceived) ethnic and cultural loyalty to your tribe. Those which don't hyphenate their identity, their culture, their nationality.

In that sense, most of what is forwarded here is more Israeli than what most American Jews would push.

Blogger Aeoli Pera September 05, 2016 5:09 PM  

JI wrote:Same old story, from the Old Testament on, over and over again, the Jews piss off God and the rest of us and some humbling ensues. Such a shame.

I won't advocate for the Jews, they need to go back. But the story behooves us to ask where the Assyrians are now.

This is the trouble with Hitler and pagans generally. They drink poison to kill the roundworm.

Anonymous tublecane September 05, 2016 5:10 PM  

Regarding HERE versus THERE, if I was going to make a "not all Jews are like that" I would make it here because here's is where I am. I don't go there often, wherever there is.

Not that I would make that argument, because I don't care enough about Jews.

Anonymous rubberducky September 05, 2016 5:16 PM  

It certainly has been an eye-opening year. After Kevin D. Williamson's infamous "Garbutt, NY" article in the March 28, 2016 edition of National Review I found myself picking myself up from the floor.

I find myself doing it again after reading this article Vox linked to.

So many people and beliefs that I trucked with for so long have turned up as if to say, "Haha, jokes on you! We've been undermining your stupid ass all along!"

Anonymous tublecane September 05, 2016 5:17 PM  

@2-I'd say so. Definitely to the left of me. But politics is like gang warfare. You're on one side or the other, or you're on no side. The communists were the Left Gang, the Nazis were the Right Gang, and if you were, say, a member of the Prussian officer class you for damn sure weren't going to be a commie. So you threw in with the Browns, even though they were to your left.

We forget this aspect of politics over here, or at least those of us on its respectable side. You wouldn't forget if you were on the streets of Milwaukee recently. We don't fight in the streets very often, and so esteem alliances cheaply. Eventually you'll know who's on the right and who's on the left by who's blood is on your first.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 05, 2016 5:17 PM  

Noah B wrote:I have. The economic far right basically believes that what's good for corporations is good for people, while the economic far left advocates total state control of the economy.
While Hillary embraces both extremes...


Aeoli Pera wrote:But the story behooves us to ask where the Assyrians are now.
When you hear stories of Christians in Iraq, Jordan, and Iran, those are the Assyrians. Literally. Overwhelmingly, Mesopotamian Christians are Assyrians.

Anonymous Joe Blowe September 05, 2016 5:26 PM  

Jews will always believe Black Lives matter because Jews do not think of themselves as “White People.”

The opposite of White is not black. The opposite of White is Jewish.

You have but to walk down a street in Tel Aviv to see the multiplicity of Jewish skin colors.

Modern Judaism (derived from Pharisaical Talmudism) is not a race and is not a religion. It is more akin to a Chinese Triad. You are one of them as long as you put your brothers and their interests ahead of every other consideration.

How have Jews fared under the right? Far worse.

As if Jews were and always have been innocent victims of the congenital Antisemitism of Christian Whites.

Rightwing = organized Whites with enough sense to defend themselves from Jewish "social activism".

Anonymous Anonymous September 05, 2016 5:29 PM  

Speaking as someone whose father is Jewish. Well, born Jewish and evolved into a shunned Pat Buchanan supporter in the 80's. I have only to conclude that if the "common Jew" isn't out there calling foul on this garbage; then they deserve what they get from the Alt-Right

Anonymous BGKB September 05, 2016 5:42 PM  

Ethiopian Jews wouldn't find themselves sterilized and/or deported after reaching the promised land

Did they ever determine if there was enough jewish DNA in them to be anything more than occasionally screwing slaves?

There's a Jewish Journal? Seems to me they're ALL Jewish journals.

This one is honest about it so they don't have to pretend.

He forgot to add, "the other 364 days each year we have no problem selling others into slavery."

Slaves do not wish for the removal of the masters whip, but to wield it themselves.

"How have Jews fared under the right? Far worse.

Kicked out of nations 200+ times across all cultures for no reason. The original Didndu Nuffin

The problem with not invoking NAJALT is that not all Jews are as stupid like the guy who wrote that piece

I think you meant to say Honest instead of stupid. I realize its the same word in Israeli freier:
"It's a Sin to Be a Sucker in Israel.Fear of being seen as a freier creates an unbending approach to life--from parking to peace talks. Israelis say the desire to be tough is rooted in history of survival. http://articles.latimes.com/1997/jul/25/news/mn-16208

Anonymous tublecane September 05, 2016 5:45 PM  

@5-If course, nationalism was overwhelmingly left-wing in the 18th century. But the political spectrum is too screwed up for me to sort out. There's no eternal left or right; they're relative terms. We'd do better to speak of the forces of order and chaos, hierarchy and levelling, particularity and universalism.

Anonymous tublecane September 05, 2016 5:56 PM  

@54-"The economic far right basically believes that what's good for corporations is good for people"

Wrong. That would be defining the far right as corporatism. But Big Business is decidedly leftist. If you then define the far left as total state control of the economy, as you do, you have the political spectrum run from corporatism to pure socialism. My, what a gamut. That's like saying the human height spectrum runs from 5'4" to 5'5". Where do libertarians go, in that case?

Oh, I get it, they secretly are just shills for corporations. How convenient. Then anything that's not pure socialism is a corporate conspiracy. This is how officially-defined extremism works. They narrow acceptable opinion into everyone who's not a crazy person is a weirdo. Which works out well for the crazy ones.

Blogger VD September 05, 2016 6:00 PM  

You continue to make the elementary mistake of lumping ALL Jews together. The Jews you so strongly dislike are delighted that you do this, because it forces their fellow Jews to take their side against you and everything you stand for. You are playing into their hands. Doing exactly what they want you to do, so that they can dismiss you as an anti-Semite.

I didn't make any mistake at all. I quoted a Jew who did that. And I was first dismissed as an anti-Semite over ten years ago, despite being cleared by the JDL, so I don't give a flying rodent's posterior about being dismissed as one for the Nth time.

Most Jews are descent people and can be won as friends and allies, if you will just stop attacking them because they are Jews.

I'm not attacking anyone for being Jewish. I am responding to people who are attacking a) whites, b) Americans, and c) the Alt Right.

If you don't like what Jews are saying, I suggest you talk to them. Because I'm doing nothing more than quoting them.

Anonymous tublecane September 05, 2016 6:03 PM  

@54-You also elucidate well how false moderation works. Hitler wants to radically restructure the German economy. But he's not the only one. On the left, you have the reds, who will slit the throats of captains of industry and bring I'm homeless people to squat in factories and poop on the machines, because they don't know how to use them. Then there are people who want to keep things as they are. They're the Extreme Right, way out there on the fringe.

In the middle is Hitler, who wants to change things, but does not advocate the wholesale destruction if civilization. He's the moderate!

Blogger Ben Cohen September 05, 2016 6:08 PM  

The community I'm in which is Orthodox tends to be Trump supporters but we have a group of SJW liberal Jews that fit all of the stereotypes. The funny thing is that they love the sci-fi/fantasy genres.

Anonymous BGKB September 05, 2016 6:09 PM  

Ben Shapiro might just be an exception that proves the rule...from a religious group that doesn't share his values

Look up older articles on little Benji here to see the only issues he pays more than lip service to are US soldiers dying for ISREAL & funding for the same.

and finally Israel treated the same as Saudi Arabia

Saudi Arabia spends hundreds of millions of dollars a year in oil money, Israel takes $8billion a year from US taxpayers.

Most Jews are descent people...You don't say...

Most jews I have meet are godless cocksuckers and lesbians.

They will bow to the earth before you and lick the dust from your feet

No wonder so many jewish guys have a boot licking fetish.

good for corporations is good for people... left advocates total state control of the economy.-
While Hillary embraces both extremes


HilLIARy embraces crony capitalism. State control in favor of cronies, what's good for corporations is competition forcing them to improve/innovate.

Anonymous SciVo September 05, 2016 7:07 PM  

JACIII wrote:They associate nationalism with right wing regardless of other politics.

That's such an obvious infra-dimensional compression of a higher-order thought-matrix that I have to question why anyone would do that. Are they retarded? It's a separate axis! Flattening it strips out significant information content, for no meaningful gain in any other respect (unless the intent is to deceive).

Ditto for the authoritarian axis, although I'm increasingly convinced that the left-right/authoritarian-libertarian plane resembles a triangle. The further left you go, the less libertarian range is available, since socialism requires regulation.

Anonymous Walter S September 05, 2016 7:15 PM  

Wait a minute. Are you pathetic white whiners saying that a group representing about 2% of Americans are so much mor powerful and intelligent and cleaver than you that they have been able to control you??

Ah! Either you whiteys are complete idiots or you are dong a bit of unfounded scapegoating.

Anonymous SciVo September 05, 2016 7:27 PM  

tublecane wrote:@5-If course, nationalism was overwhelmingly left-wing in the 18th century. But the political spectrum is too screwed up for me to sort out. There's no eternal left or right; they're relative terms. We'd do better to speak of the forces of order and chaos, hierarchy and levelling, particularity and universalism.

Agreed. From the perspective of subsidiarity, it is the egalitarian who is the authoritarian, due to having the Empire dictate to the Individual on matters of (at most) Family or County import.

Blogger Harsh September 05, 2016 7:27 PM  

Most Jews are descent people and can be won as friends and allies, if you will just stop attacking them because they are Jews.

So quoting is now attacking? Who knew?

Blogger rcocean September 05, 2016 7:35 PM  

Jews aren't white people? I wished they'd made that clear when they started immigrating here in massive numbers from 1880-1920. Of course, THEN, they claimed to be white people, regular Yankee-doodle-dandies.

But then, I guess the Goys FORCED them to say that.

Anonymous SciVo September 05, 2016 7:36 PM  

Walter S wrote:Ah! Either you whiteys are complete idiots or you are dong a bit of unfounded scapegoating.

Third possibility: high in-group preference from a low-trust tribal culture where theft-by-deceit of the outgroup is praised and prized, vs. the pathological altruism of the Hajnal line.

It's time for us native Europeans to copy the Jews, at least in terms of in-group preference. Eff the rest of the world; we need to put ourselves first, since our open institutions are enslaving us to alien rent-seekers.

Blogger GFR September 05, 2016 7:55 PM  

I think there is something to what you say and it is difficult to reconcile the actions of some jews with what are obviously jewish interests.
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I believe it was Theodore Hertzl who said that he would rather have jewish children evacuated to Palestine (in preference to Britain) even if half the jewish children perished on route.
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It may be that the wealthy and powerful jews view ordinary jews as disposable if it allows them to achieve their political objectives.

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Blogger Rabbi B September 05, 2016 8:07 PM  

@79 Walter S

Are you pathetic white whiners saying that a group representing about 2% of Americans are so much mor powerful and intelligent and cleaver than you that they have been able to control you??

No. That is not the case. But they have been influential, and that influence is not going unnoticed.

@43 rogerhicks

Ca. 10,000 German Jews died fighting for their German fatherland in WW1, against their fellow Jews fighting on the side of the Allies. Most European Jews identify with their host country and most Jewish intellectuals, at least, before the Holocaust, identified as Europeans . . .

You couldn't be more wrong. What the vast majority of our people fail to understand is that the Jew is at one and the same time a citizen of a territorial unit (ie. a state) and a member of the Jewish people, whose unity and existence is not rooted in land and soil, but in the Torah. Which is one of the main reasons I have argued that our loyalty to the country of our residence is not merely "repayment" for the hospitality of our respective host nations, for I believe that we owe loyalty EVEN TO REPRESSIVE REGIMES; which affords us the opportunity to demonstrate to the world the highest ethical and moral standards the world has ever seen.

Sadly, and to our shame, this has not what we have demonstrated. Rather, in the midst of unprecedented prosperity and opportunity that (((we))) have known in this country alone for over two hundred years, we have not only remained unfaithful, but have become even more unfaithful and recalcitrant. Therefore, when the test of Jewish loyalty fails, suffering inevitably occurs and recurs.

One of our sages writes: "In the period that preceded the Sho'ah, our oppression by the nations declined, as a preparation for the coming of the Mashiach. But since we were determined to pursue an entirely different [course and] goal, the great catastrophe awaited us." (cf. Meshech Chochmah, Michtav me-Eliyahu, IV, 124-25)

I fear that, if (((we))) insist on staying the current course, the future holds an even greater catastrophe.

@43 rogerhicks

Most Jews are descent people and can be won as friends and allies, if you will just stop attacking them because they are Jews.

And ... wrong again. If Jews will start discharging their duties and obligations as Jews, perhaps the world will begin to look upon us as friends and allies and be more inclined to stand with (((us))) during the times we are baselessly attacked for "being Jews."

We might want to start by being Jews.

Blogger Abyssus Invocat September 05, 2016 8:32 PM  

The ignorance and stupidity of Tom Teicholz and his audience reeks. To use terms like "left" and "right" to describe the Pharoahs, Greeks and Romans requires a level obtuseness that should require institutionalizations. To trot out again the line that the National SOCIALIST Party was of the right requires a level of ignorance that betrays his real motives. Since Teicholz's vocabulary indicates that he is neither a complete idiot nor completely unread, we have to assume that he is a liar. SJWAL.

Anonymous GreyS September 05, 2016 8:36 PM  

You continue to make the elementary mistake of lumping ALL Jews together.

Meanwhile, Teicholz--born in NY-- calls himself "Hungarican".
(His father was Polish, his mother Hungarian.)

In Teicholz-speak, "Hungarican" is likely referring to being Jewish:

“It is not enough to have talent,” photographer Robert Capa once said, turning an old saying on its head. “You also have to be Hungarian.” By which he meant Hungarian-Jewish."

Anonymous Harsh September 05, 2016 8:48 PM  

Keep talking, Walter S. That sort of rhetoric keeps pushing more and more people to our side.

Anonymous Inyada September 05, 2016 8:51 PM  

"Most Jews are descent people and can be won as friends and allies, if you will just stop attacking them because they are Jews.

And ... wrong again"

What about you, Rabbi? Are you decent?

I wonder if it has occurred to you, Rabbi, that a Jew need not live up to your idea of what a jew ought to be in order to be a decent person. PLease don't speak for all jews. Speak for yourself, particularly since you seem to not have any clud as to what makes a jew decent or not.

Anonymous GreyS September 05, 2016 8:53 PM  

I don't work in town anymore, but it's a small relief to now be given the pass to label the people who run the entertainment business as "jewish":

"...in Los Angeles, I assume everyone is Jewish"

He even calls L.A. "The Chosen City".

Blogger VD September 05, 2016 9:03 PM  

Wait a minute. Are you pathetic white whiners saying that a group representing about 2% of Americans are so much mor powerful and intelligent and cleaver than you that they have been able to control you?

I'm an American Indian, Walter. I'm no more white than (((you))).

Blogger Rabbi B September 05, 2016 9:10 PM  

@91 Inyada

I wonder if it has occurred to you, Rabbi, that a Jew need not live up to your idea of what a jew ought to be in order to be a decent person.

It most certainly has occurred to me, and it wasn't originally my idea, but Someone else's entirely. And since, in your estimation, I don't have a clue, maybe you would consider taking the matter up with a Higher Authority.

Blogger Thucydides September 05, 2016 9:25 PM  

The nonsensical adherence to 1930 era Soviet propaganda (calling Fascists, Nazis and Communists "right wing") simply serves to make any discussion fall right off the rails.

The irony is that many Jews support Left wing politics and causes, especially since these are the foundations of the same forces which have historically consumed them in the 20th century. Poor decision making if this was their attempt to mould the world in a fashion which would be safer for them....

Looking at how the Obama regime has unfolded, the growing anti Semitism across Europe and the ever growing forces of Jihad in the middle east, they have chosen very poorly indeed.

Anonymous The Dude September 05, 2016 9:26 PM  

Walter, you're not wrong. You're just an asshole.

Anonymous CONFIDENCE Man September 05, 2016 9:28 PM  

Were-Puppy wrote:Whatever all they are internally arguing about, Prager is not an ally of the alt-right in any shape or form. I think he is a nevertrump from the couple times I attempted listening to his radio show.

While Prager did oppose Trump in the primaries (he's said that Trump was his last choice), he does take issue with the 'Never Trump' people, and often states that he will in fact be voting for Trump in November.

Anonymous Walter S September 05, 2016 9:36 PM  

"Keep talking, Walter S. That sort of rhetoric keeps pushing more and more people to our side."

Which side is that? The ignorant hillbilly contingent. America decided to embrace Jews generations ago. If you feel the need to be jealous of their success, try to do it without the hysteria of a little girl with skinned knee.

Anonymous Inyada September 05, 2016 9:42 PM  

"And since, in your estimation, I don't have a clue, maybe you would consider taking the matter up with a Higher Authority."

Sure. Just let me know, Rabbi, when a Jew enters the conversation.

Blogger Escoffier September 05, 2016 9:44 PM  

As much as I appreciated Lawrence Auster I found his insistence that the Nazis were right wing bizarre.

Anonymous Farnswords September 05, 2016 9:47 PM  

@41, Were-Puppy
@48, A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents

Were-Puppy, it's foolish to assume someone's opinion, and complete idiocy to admit that you know nothing about something after opining on it. I listen to Prager every single day, and he has promised from the very beginning that he would support Trump if he won the nomination, which he has done. He argued against him during the primary, but he has been a powerful proponent for Trump since then and has argued almost every day on his show against the NeverTrumpers.

Paradigm, Prager has utter loathing for his own generation, and similar feelings about his fellow Jews' politics and attitudes. Every Wednesday he hosts the most powerful talks about male-female relationships I have every heard and has probably saved countless marriages. I know he has helped me in my marriage.

Both of you are pathetic for posturing and blathering about someone you know nothing about.

It is odd when world collides. Prager and Vox are the only two commentators I read or listen to every day.

Anonymous Walter S September 05, 2016 9:47 PM  

'm an American Indian, Walter. I'm no more white than you"

Fair enough. Let me rephrase: Are white Whiners....

Blogger Rabbi B September 05, 2016 9:57 PM  

Are you a Reform Jew by any chance, Inyada?

Anonymous SciVo September 05, 2016 10:06 PM  

It's okay, Walter S. Take your time looking up those terms I used. To help, here's an article on the Hajnal line (which I haven't actually finished yet, but it looks good). I assume you can find definitions of the rest on your own.

Anonymous Inyada September 05, 2016 10:06 PM  

Rabbi,
No. I'm a Jew. And why are you, a non Jew, caring at all?

Please, don't speak for the Jews. You know nothing about Jews.

Blogger Rabbi B September 05, 2016 10:12 PM  

@104 Inyada

(((TRIGGERED)))?

Blogger Aaron Farnsworth September 05, 2016 10:14 PM  

@41, Were-Puppy
@48, A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents

Were-Puppy, it's foolish to assume someone's opinion, and complete idiocy to admit that you know nothing about something after opining on it. I listen to Prager every single day, and he has promised from the very beginning that he would support Trump if he won the nomination, which he has done. He argued against him during the primary, but he has been a powerful proponent for Trump since then and has argued almost every day on his show against the NeverTrumpers.

Paradigm, Prager has utter loathing for his own generation, and similar feelings about his fellow Jews' politics and attitudes. Every Wednesday he hosts the most powerful talks about male-female relationships I have ever heard and has probably saved countless marriages. I know he has helped me in my marriage.

Both of you are pathetic for posturing and blathering about someone you know nothing about.

It is odd when worlds collide. Prager and Vox are the only two commentators I read or listen to every day.

Blogger Rabbi B September 05, 2016 10:14 PM  

@104 Inyada

Your attempt to (((disqualify))) does not diminish the truth of my words.

Blogger Harsh September 05, 2016 10:21 PM  

If you feel the need to be jealous of their success, try to do it without the hysteria of a little girl with skinned knee.

Sure, sweetheart, you keep thinking that. I mean, no one in history has made the dangerous mistake of underestimating their enemy before.

Blogger Harsh September 05, 2016 10:24 PM  

Ashkenazim get their intelligence from European genes and then deny that part of their heritage. What a bunch of ingrates.

Anonymous Inyada September 05, 2016 10:47 PM  

"Your attempt to (((disqualify))) does not diminish the truth of my words."

That's true. It's reality that diminishes the truth of your words.

Blogger Harsh September 05, 2016 10:52 PM  

Inyada wrote:"Your attempt to (((disqualify))) does not diminish the truth of my words."

That's true. It's reality that diminishes the truth of your words.


That's some weapons-grade projection there, bro.

Blogger Lazarus September 05, 2016 10:57 PM  

The AfD is not an option for Germany but an indictment of Germany," Josef Schuster, the head of the Central Council of Jews in Germany, told the German media after the results came in.

Schuster said it appeared that many voters either did not realize or simply accepted the fact that the AfD had not distanced itself from right-wing extremists.

"The fact that a right-wing extremist party that bluntly and disgustingly incites and mobilizes hatred against minorities can rise unchecked in our country is a nightmare come true," said former Central Council President Charlotte Knobloch, who heads the Jewish Community of Munich and Upper Bavaria.

Churchian and Muslim leaders expressed similar concerns following Sunday's vote.


(ok, not the exact quote, I used editorial discretion, but it is obvious where I did so)

Blogger Lazarus September 05, 2016 11:04 PM  

Inyada wrote:Rabbi,

No. I'm a Jew. And why are you, a non Jew, caring at all?

Please, don't speak for the Jews. You know nothing about Jews.


Oy vey, the Jews are arguing about who is Jewish or not. Whatz new?

Blogger Were-Puppy September 05, 2016 11:07 PM  

@106 Aaron Farnsworth

Were-Puppy, it's foolish to assume someone's opinion, and complete idiocy to admit that you know nothing about something after opining on it. I listen to Prager every single day, and he has promised from the very beginning that he would support Trump if he won the nomination, which he has done. He argued against him during the primary, but he has been a powerful proponent for Trump since then and has argued almost every day on his show against the NeverTrumpers.
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You can defend him all you want. My experience with listening to his radio show is awful. Do you expect me to listen to every broadcast and every written word of someone who I gave a good shot, or otherwise i am ignorant or foolish? If so, then you are a fool.

Blogger ZhukovG September 05, 2016 11:24 PM  

@113 I wonder if Christians learned to do that from them or if they learned it from us?

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 05, 2016 11:27 PM  

Walter S wrote:Which side is that? The ignorant hillbilly contingent. America decided to embrace Jews generations ago. If you feel the need to be jealous of their success, try to do it without the hysteria of a little girl with skinned knee.
It's true, we did embrace Jews, not generations ago, but back in the 1960s. And what has been your response? You steal everything you can and try to wipe out our religion and our very existence.

I remember seeing a poster back in the Occupy Wall Street movement. It was something like "Never forget, when you target the 1%, you are targeting Jews". I think the intent was to chide communist Jewish agitators with tribal loyalty. I must say it had a different effect on me.

White Genocide has been a Jewish project in this country since the 1940s.

Blogger Harsh September 05, 2016 11:36 PM  

These Soros-bought trolls are getting worse and worse at the rhetoric game. Hope he's not paying too much for them.

Blogger Aaron Farnsworth September 05, 2016 11:41 PM  

@114, Were-Puppy

You made a blanket statement about a public figure that was completely wrong. You could have Googled "Prager" and "NeverTrump" and seen several articles he's written in favor of Trump. Why can't you just admit you were wrong without lashing back at me?

Blogger Rabbi B September 05, 2016 11:44 PM  

@110 Inyada

That's true. It's reality that diminishes the truth of your words.

My words run very much in the same spirit as the following words:

Many Jewish leaders will have to acknowledge before G-d that they had forsaken Him and His law for the sake of currying favor with the nations, in their readiness to surrender Torah-observance to save the Jews. They did not consider the surrender of the Torah too high a price to pay for civil emancipation. They welcomed the expected deliverance from the galuth as a deliverance also from the yoke of G-d's law.

There will be many to blame when the old shadows of galuth enfold us again and oppressors everywhere will stand ready to place the ancient chains on Israel once more. Who knows whether it was not they who, through their exaggerated glorification of civic equality as the ultimate freedom, precipitated the return of the ancient animosity of the nations?

In our own time, we see our contemporaries, either liberated or thinking themselves liberated, embarked on struggle against their own origin, slandering their own mother to the rulers of the nations. They have brought down upon us measures that exiled the Torah. There are today wide circles in which the Torah has become a stranger to its own children and in which the second and even the third generation is now growing up in ignorance and disregard of its own most sacred calling.

Is there anyone today who could, in good conscience, avoid an answer if he were asked: "Are you not also to blame for the present decline of Torah-observance and the present decline of the Jewish people? Are you doing everything within your power to carry out the timeless responsibility which imposes upon every thinking Jew in times like ours?" (Rabbi S.R. Hirsch (1808-1888). of blessed memory).

Blogger Rabbi B September 05, 2016 11:44 PM  

Inyada, the defection we are witnessing today, a reality which you are so loathe to admit, should spur you on to re-double your own loyalty and faithfulness, first to the G-d of Avraham, Yitzchak, and Ya'akov and second to the fellow-citizens of the nation to which you have been scattered and in which you reside as a guest. And, yes, like it or not, you reside here at the whim of the nation.

You, like so many other Jews, have succumbed to the irresolution all around you. That's the truth. That's the reality. The last thing any of (((us))) should be doing is wrapping ourselves in the cloak of our own righteousness, as you are so determined to do. I, for one, am not content to ignore the defection of my (((brothers))) as you are; I am not content to ignore the defection of our (((sons))) and (((daughters))) as you are. I, for one, will not continue to stand by and ignore the plight of my (((brethren))) who put G-d behind their back, forsake the fountain of living waters, and dig their own cisterns - broken cisterns which can hold no water. You might be content to do so, being a Jew and all, but I am simply not.

You asked about decency? Well let me ask you, then ... What text speaks of the highest decency that a person (most especially a Jew) should aspire to? Is it not the Torah? Well, then, let me ask you ... you who proudly call yourself a Jew and dare call me a non-Jew ...

What are you doing to increase observance of the Torah? What are you doing to promote knowledge of the Torah? What are you doing to promulgate the ideals of purity, truth, justice, loving kindness, sanctification and consecration among the goyim? Will G-d be able to hold you, myself, or (((anyone else))) up to our (((brethren))) who have gone astray and say to them: "You are my servant, O Israel, in whom I can take pride" (cf. Isaiah 49)?

It is indecent to continue shooting at your own side, all because you are too prideful and self-righteous to do a little self-reflection and ask yourself if your avodas Hashem is good for the Jew and just as good for the goyim. Call me a non-Jew all you want. I have been called worse and I imagine you have only once again succeeded in insulted no small number of non-Jews here by doing so, which I don't consider very decent of you at all.

I hope you are able to humble yourself long enough to internalize some of the things I have posted here. And remember, as Shlomo ha Melech said, the wounds of a friend are faithful, while the kisses of an enemy are deadly.

Kol tuv ...

Blogger Aaron Farnsworth September 05, 2016 11:55 PM  

One quarrels with Rabbi B at one's own peril...

Anonymous ons4everalpha September 06, 2016 12:05 AM  

"Before anyone produces the expected NAJALT argument, I should first be very interested to
learn why you are intent on playing defense attorney HERE on behalf of those with whom you
supposedly disagree rather than actively opposing those making such statements THERE."

Simple, they're my friends and neighbors and have treated me with decency and kindness.
And no, that's not a sympathy plea, it's just to describe how conflicted
I am about all of this.

No, I'm not Jewish. I'm 1/2 Danish, 1/8 Swedish, indeterminate amount of Pennsylvania German and Pennsylvania Scots Irish
(the latter of which is from where I assume my ancestors who fought in the American Revolution came, where if you
ever saw me is clearly who gave me my eyes, and I've heard aren't "real" Scots Irish)
and pretty much look like Donald Trump's shorter nephew.

What do those of us do who have Jews as dear friends and in many cases
(not mine but certainly in the case of Dennis Prager's occasional guest Adam Carolla who had a Jewish step-father) family members?

Honest question here. I'm not sure what to do.
I grew up in a neighborhood in NW DC that was basically some split of Jews (two enormous Synagogues form the border of its east and west sides
- at his point I'd rather not hear some bad news that it's a conspiracy that the National Cathedral lies between them) and Christians.
We got along quite well. My best friend as a kid was 1/2 Jewish. My best friend as an adult grew up with Jewish friends who we often hang out with.
In grammar school, We sung "We Wish You a Merry Christmas" and the Dreidel Song. No one cared.
I went to a catholic high school where around 1/8 of the students were Jewish and probably a 1/4 were Protestant.
They're were even a few muslim students, though looking back now there were clearly tensions (small but noticeable) starting to form in late 80s/early 90s.

I'm an introvert so I don't have many close friends,
but a few are Jewish. What do I say to them?
Yes, I've seen 30 for 30s "Once Brothers" and been to Sarajevo, so I am very
familiar that when the shit hits the fan you basically have to fall back on:
family->tribe->identity

I feel awful asking this but is there a humane answer to The Jewish Question?

Blogger Rabbi B September 06, 2016 12:27 AM  

@122 ons4everalpha

I feel awful asking this but is there a humane answer to The Jewish Question?

Yes. But only if the Jews succeed in answering it before the goyim do. Otherwise, I would say all bets are off.

Anonymous Jack Highlands September 06, 2016 12:41 AM  

Teichholz' piece is highly sentimental and I doubt he believes any of it in practise.

He says fellow Jews
Come in various hues
But observe a curious fact -
They order these hues
The same as non-Jews:
White over Brown over Black.

Anonymous Mr. Rational September 06, 2016 1:06 AM  

Harsh wrote:These Soros-bought trolls are getting worse and worse at the rhetoric game.
You noticed that too?  Soros is scraping the bottom of the barrel, so I wonder how big it was to begin with.

@122 "We Vishnu a Hare Krishna, We Vishnu a Hare Krishna, We Vishnu a Hare Krishna, and a Rama new year!"  Sarcasm and irony is the only sensible response, IMO.

Blogger Noah B September 06, 2016 1:08 AM  

@59 Not all of politics is economics. They also supported gun control and government controlled schooling, just to give two examples.

As I said initially, Hitler was classified an Authoritarian. There are probably few who would dispute this. You're correct that government controlled schooling was an inflexible part of NSDAP policy - and that remains the case in Germany today. However, NSDAP reduced the scope of gun control for non-Jewish Germans after they took power. IIRC there were essentially no restrictions on the number or type of weapons that party members could own.

The most severe gun control was enacted under the Weimar regime.

Blogger Noah B September 06, 2016 1:17 AM  

@79 Wait a minute. Are you pathetic white whiners saying that a group representing about 2% of Americans are so much mor powerful and intelligent and cleaver than you that they have been able to control you??

Call it what you like. I'll call it consistent adherence to tribalism and dishonesty.

Blogger Shimshon September 06, 2016 1:43 AM  

Vox, I would say Teicholz is an (((SJW))), and as we know, they Always Lie.

"Tikkun Olam" is like "seems" as a (((tell))).

He is also abysmally ignorant of history.

But he is Jewish, and while his kind are demographically dying off rather rapidly, it is still a very prominent (perhaps even dominant) strain of thought among Jews. From the perspective of the 99% who aren't Jewish, especially those who are even a smidgen right compared to self-absorbed idiots like him, it doesn't matter that NAJALT. As you yourself said.

Blogger tz September 06, 2016 2:32 AM  

NAJALT - 70% voted for Obama. The Cuckselfservative Jews will be added on Hillary's side (((neo-cons))).

Not all black thugs in the ghetto are like that either but I don't see Jews moving into those neighborhoods to educate them.

Bernstein? He wrote a "Mass". That was aesthetic, but an anti-Catholic diatribe.

But the acid test is this:

If you love Jews as much as any other nations, you would wish them to come to know Christ, which means giving up the "Salvation by genetics (Abraham)", and circumcision. And they can then marry a non-Jew which will perpetuate vote. A different Genocide. Do you wish all Jews to remain pure but burn in hell forever? That is what the Bible says. There are "Messianic Jews", but they simply make the problem more profound.

Paul, after tiring of the verbal and physical abuse to the point of maybe being killed by the Jews said he would only go to the Gentiles.

If you are holier than St. Paul, then go to Israel and convert Jews and turn it (and feel free to convert the Palestinians and Arabs) into a Christian Nation Messiah will bless.

To reframe the question, are Jews defined by religion or genetics? If the latter, the eugenics and ethnic purity is worse than anything the Nazi's believed. If the former, then what of all the secular Jews? Ought not the believers purge the apostates?

Nothing has changed for 50 years. Jews will march with inner city blacks, then retreat to the far suburbs. When there was cross-town busing, before there was white flight, there was Jewish teleportation.

Blogger tz September 06, 2016 2:37 AM  

Jews being "sympathetic" and trying to be good to #BLM will work as well as Jews trying to be "good" Germans in Berlin in the late 30s.

Worse, actually. Blacks notice the shops serve them, but they live far away.

Think of the Korean businesses LA attempted to torch post Rodney King.

The reason Jews aren't in Israel is that it is a socialist, secular society that without US subsidy would turn into Venezuela tomorrow without US support.

Blogger Rabbi B September 06, 2016 3:02 AM  

Paul, after tiring of the verbal and physical abuse to the point of maybe being killed by the Jews said he would only go to the Gentiles.

Then Paul and Barnabas answered them boldly: “We had to speak the word of G-d to you first. Since you reject it and do not consider yourselves worthy of eternal life, we now turn to the Gentiles.

And yet, thereafter, they continued going to the Jews as was their custom:

At Iconium Paul and Barnabas went as usual into the Jewish synagogue. There they spoke so effectively that a great number of Jews and Greeks believed. (cf. Acts 14)

When Paul and his companions had passed through Amphipolis and Apollonia, they came to Thessalonica, where there was a Jewish synagogue. As was his custom, Paul went into the synagogue, and on three Sabbath days he reasoned with them from the Scriptures, explaining and proving that the Messiah had to suffer and rise from the dead . . . Some of the Jews were persuaded and joined Paul and Silas, as did a large number of G-d fearing Greeks and quite a few prominent women. (cf. Acts 17)

As soon as it was night, the believers sent Paul and Silas away to Berea. On arriving there, they went to the Jewish synagogue. Now the Berean Jews were of more noble character than those in Thessalonica, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true. (cf. Acts 17)

While Paul was waiting for them in Athens, he was greatly distressed to see that the city was full of idols. So he reasoned in the synagogue with both Jews and God-fearing Greeks, as well as in the marketplace day by day with those who happened to be there. (cf. Acts 17)

After this, Paul left Athens and went to Corinth. There he met a Jew named Aquila, a native of Pontus, who had recently come from Italy with his wife Priscilla, because Claudius had ordered all Jews to leave Rome. Paul went to see them, and because he was a tentmaker as they were, he stayed and worked with them. Every Sabbath he reasoned in the synagogue, trying to persuade Jews and Greeks. When Silas and Timothy came from Macedonia, Paul devoted himself exclusively to preaching, testifying to the Jews that Jesus was the Messiah. (Cf. Acts 18)

They arrived at Ephesus, where Paul left Priscilla and Aquila. He himself went into the synagogue and reasoned with the Jews. (cf. Acts 18)

Paul entered the synagogue and spoke boldly there for three months, arguing persuasively about the kingdom of God. (cf. Acts 19)

I don't believe that Paul ever abandoned his preaching to the Jews any more than he did to the non-Jews. I think it's important to remember that this was the same man who wished himself accursed and cut off from G-d if it would have meant the salvation for his brethren for whom he had a deep and abiding love.

Nor do I fancy Paul a duplicitous hypocrite by an stretch of the imagination, misunderstood as he was in his day and still is in our day, by both Jews and non-Jews alike. (cf. II Peter 3:16)

I tell the truth in the Messiah, I am not lying, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Ruach ha Chodesh, that I have great sorrow and continual grief in my heart. For I could wish that I myself were accursed from the Messiah for my brethren, my countrymen according to the flesh, who are Israelites, to whom pertain the adoption, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the service of G-d, and the promises; of whom are the fathers and from whom, according to the flesh, the Messiah came, who is over all, the eternally blessed G-d. Amen. (cf. Romans 9)

Blogger VD September 06, 2016 3:31 AM  

I feel awful asking this but is there a humane answer to The Jewish Question?

Yes. This year in Jerusalem. Israel and the USA are allies and the best of friends. But they are not made up of the same nation.

OpenID aew51183 September 06, 2016 4:39 AM  

Yay.. another elitist, coastal jew claiming to speak for all jews like me. These people are cancer to jews like feminists are to women.

Blogger rogerhicks September 06, 2016 5:08 AM  

@ 74. VD

"I'm not attacking anyone for being Jewish. I am responding to people who are attacking a) whites, b) Americans, and c) the Alt Right. If you don't like what Jews are saying, I suggest you talk to them. Because I'm doing nothing more than quoting them."

You are quoting and responding to SOME Jews who are "attacking whites, Americans, and the Alt Right", but in the process you implicate ALL Jews.

I strongly suspect that many of the Jews you're responding to revel in being attacked as Jews, while caring very little about their Jewish identity as such.

My brother-in-law, who is Jewish, cares little for his Jewish identity and is mystified by and critical of my sense of white identity. We have had big arguments about this with me wanting him to take his Jewish identity more seriously, but he's not interested. He's completely swallowed post-racial multicultural ideology of colour-blindness and the global melting pot, in which all racial differences will eventually dissolve and disappear.

He's still a nice guy and I'm very fond of him, but on the issue of race we remain ideologically opposed to each other.

There are others, non-Jews, I know and also like at lot, who feel exactly the same as my brother-in-law.

I'm not going to reject or take up arms against them, but continue trying to convince them that their views are misguided.

Anonymous Anonymous September 06, 2016 8:57 AM  

@43: Most Jews are descent people and can be won as friends and allies, if you will just stop attacking them because they are Jews.

And most Rhodesian whites were decent. And most South African whites were decent. And most Tutsis and Hutus were decent.

It isn't the individual decency that is at issue, really. It is the collective effect.

For example, whether most Jews are decent or not, I do not want four out of nine Supreme Court justices to be Jewish and no supreme court justices to be WASPs.

Call me selfish if you wish. But please don't misunderstand me. I am sure Mr. Garland, the soon-to-be fourth Jew on the US Supreme Court is "decent" and "kind" and "caring". I would love him as a neighbor. We could have many thoughtful and enlightening conversations.

But I don't want him as our fourth Jewish Supreme Court justice. As nice and decent and kind as they no doubt are, I do not wish to be ruled by Jews, but by my own people.

Ted Herzl explained it best:

Jews that stay in the west should assimilate and not diddle with their host societies.

Jews that wish to be fully Jewish and live in a Jewish society should make aliyah.

Makes sense to me.

/s/ Big Bill

Anonymous Avalanche September 06, 2016 9:52 AM  

@43 "Most Jews are descent people and can be won as friends and allies, if you will just stop attacking them because they are Jews."

Yup. Might consider it, just as SOOOOOON as your friendly little jews quit having their first loyalty be that shitty little country!

Just as SOOOOON as they agree with WHITE Americans that $10+-million dollars A DAY of American tax money be sent to that shitty little country!

Just as soon as they agree that they are NOT a 'light unto the nations' -- and the nations will do just fine if they quit messin' about with how WE want to live in OUR countries!

If they want to be our "friends and allies" (and, um, just how come we have NEVER seen this in the history of this and other White countries? ) -- then let them SHOW themselves to be!

Until then? "Attacking them because they are Jews" is the appropriate response: you do NOT assume a parasite is NOT a parasite until it stops sucking your blood and weakening the host! (And not just because it has all the blood it wants... today!)

They need to win US "as friends and allies" -- we don't want or need them; and they've proven they are not interested in winning us as friends and allies! We're just hosts to a deadly parasite!

Anonymous Avalanche September 06, 2016 9:53 AM  

@135 "$10+-million dollars A DAY of American tax money be sent to that shitty little country!"

...should *NOT* be sent

Blogger rogerhicks September 06, 2016 9:54 AM  

@ 132. VD

"I feel awful asking this but is there a humane answer to The Jewish Question?"

It is not just the "Jewish Question", but also the "African American Question", the Native American Question", the "Muslim question", the "Sikh Question", the "Chinese Question", the "Vietnamese Question", and many more besides.

It is a question of the status of minority ethnic groups in a state dominated by a historical ethnic majority, and since the role of the state has always been to play off its different interests groups (ethnic or otherwise) one against the other, it is not a question that is not easily answered.

We urgently need to find an answer, however - otherwise western societies will tear themselves apart - but to do that we first need to develop a a much better understanding of the state itself, which is very different from what we are taught by an academic class with a massive personal self-interest in rationalising and defending its role, self-image (as a nation) and ideologies (social, political, economic and racial, formerly religious), on which the state bases its claims to moral and knowledgeable authority.

For an introduction to my understanding of the state, see this: http://philosopherkin.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/civilisation-evolutionary-cul-de-sac.html

Anonymous Avalanche September 06, 2016 10:24 AM  

@134 "You are quoting and responding to SOME Jews who are "attacking whites, Americans, and the Alt Right", but in the process you implicate ALL Jews."

Where, then, are your "ALL jews" standing up to your SOME jews who are attacking us in our own nations? You object when we don't just notice but begin (finally!) to defend ourselves against the 'front-line forces' for your side, your tribe, attacking us?

If you (I'm assuming you see yourself was part of the 'implicated' "ALL jews") will not stop your tribe from attacking us, on what possible basis can you claim that WE should stop defending ourselves against ALL jews?!

Not even sorry if it hurts your feelings: perhaps those hurt feelings will move you to consider Rabbi B's suggestion that your "ALL jews" start trying to be GOOD guests, rather than destructive parasites to their hosts!

Anonymous Discard September 06, 2016 4:35 PM  

If good Jews do not want to be blamed for the actions of bad Jews, then they must condemn and punish the bad ones. Clean up your own houses or outsiders will hold all of you responsible.

No country has been more tolerant or generous to the Jews than the U.S., and in return you serve us shit and tell us it's tikkum something. Ingratitude is not likely to be forgiven.

Rogerhicks: I grew up in Los Angeles. I went to school with Jews, played games with Jews, was friends with Jews, all that. It does not change the facts of Jewish betrayal of their hosts, it only magnifies the treachery. They also went to school with Whites, played games with Whites, were friends with Whites, all that, but they still collectively hate us. Did all this mingling, cooperation, and friendship save us from their malice? No.

Anonymous Discard September 06, 2016 4:38 PM  

139. Discard Correction: "…and in return THEY (not 'you') serve us shit…"

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