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Friday, September 16, 2016

Reacting to the rage

Life is too short to put up with angry women:
As women hit menopause, they tend to get observably unhappier and angrier. However, Western society no longer permits men to keep middle-aged female anger under control any more than it permits them to restrain young female promiscuity.

Two observations. First, it's clearly not psychologically healthy behavior: I get heart palpitations and shake. Then I open my mouth without engaging my brain. I shout and use foul language I regret afterwards. It takes me a couple of hours before I can calm down.'

Second, it is milquetoast men who are enabling the self-destructive behavior. As mild-mannered as Jo is volatile, he's found that the best thing to do is to walk away and let the tantrum burn itself out.

The reason for the behavior is that this is what the unrestrained female psyche looks like.
I used to believe that women civilized men. However, as I've gotten older, I've realized that it is more the other way around. Men civilize women, while women incentivize men to pursue civilization.

Western civilization is not compatible with the unrestrained female psyche or the unrestrained male psyche. It requires discipline and a mutually beneficial partnership between the sexes. African culture is the result of the unrestrained female psyche. Arab culture is the result of the unrestrained male psyche.

In any event, it is important for men to understand that repeated conflict-avoidance in the name of smoothing out the relationship is a strategy for failure. Conflict is a necessary aspect of discipline.

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Anonymous VFM #6306 September 16, 2016 12:37 PM  

I doubt that "Shrew, Thou Art Tamed!" is going to outsell to "Woman, Thou Art Loosed!"

But I'd like to see it tried.

Anonymous Philipp September 16, 2016 12:41 PM  

"...it is important for men to understand that repeated conflict-avoidance in the name of smoothing out the relationship is a strategy for failure."

True enough. I figured that out myself.

Blogger JACIII September 16, 2016 12:50 PM  

The proactive approach works well with women in all stages of life. If your woman is cranky, provided she's getting laid regularly, you haven't been a dick to her lately.

Blogger JACIII September 16, 2016 12:51 PM  

The proactive approach works well with women in all stages of life. If your woman is cranky, provided she's getting laid regularly, you haven't been a dick to her lately.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents September 16, 2016 12:54 PM  

@2
Who deals with a 2 year old's tantrum by walking away from the child to let the tantrum burn itself out? No one with any sense.

The mistake many Beta and Delta men make is assuming that women are just like them, only with boobs. They don't really get the differences in hormonal cycles and brain wiring.

I'll add to this that while "menopause" has a clear definition, the hormonal bizarreness leading up to it called "premenopause" or "perimenopause".

But really it's all just the same old female cycle, hyped up.

Deciding that women are the most important people in the Western world, more important than men, much more important than children, has not worked out the way it was sold.

Blogger Matt September 16, 2016 12:55 PM  

Arab culture is the result of the unrestrained male psyche.

Arab culture is profoundly broken in ways that go WAY beyond sex. Arab culture is the result of an entire civilization being involved in a genuinely deranged death cult religion. The breakdown in the male psyche is just a symptom.

Anonymous Susan September 16, 2016 12:56 PM  

I recently watched the 1986 British miniseries Shaka Zulu on Netflix streaming. After a couple of years of the commentary here about the disconnect between men/women, black vs white cultures, all I could see was the chasm dividing Shaka and his people from the white colonialists of Cape Town.
This was in 1823 mind you, and the Africans were still as primitive as they were in the previous several hundred years.

Put that in modern settings and you can really see the divide between the genders/cultures right now. Just more proof that VD is correct imho. By the way, that actor playing Shaka was a retired soccer player and did the part very well.

Anonymous BGKB September 16, 2016 12:57 PM  

Life is too short to put up with angry women:

And people here were just telling MILO to go STR8

Blogger Lazarus September 16, 2016 12:58 PM  

Supposedy, female brains are more complex, therefore more can (and frequently does) go wrong in them.

Also, it is not a good idea to let them drink wine in excess. Beer is safer.

Blogger Mountain Man September 16, 2016 12:58 PM  

Ive learned that being selfish has its benefits.
If its shark week I might loosen up a bit and give her a few dollops of beta attention.
Other than that its pretty much just making sure my needs are met first and foremost. Its amazing the positive benefits that come from it: regular sex, coffee brought to me every morning before I even get out of bed, hot meals from scratch when I get home, laundry cleaned and neatly folded etc...
This all makes me very happy.
And the happier I am the easier is to enjoy my wife's presence/company and to view her moods and quirks with bemused amusement.

Blogger hank.jim September 16, 2016 1:05 PM  

Women are more unrestrained than ever. Telling women to STFU might work some times, but women can escalate and when all fails, make false accusations. Tread carefully.

Blogger dc.sunsets September 16, 2016 1:06 PM  

If you want peace, prepare for war.

When a man is visibly capable of using force (not just blustering), the need to do so is diminished in many circumstances (there are exceptions, of course.) A woman need not fear a man, she does need to respect him. It should be natural for her to respect his strength. The same goes for kids. I didn't need to beat or threaten my kids, but they learned early to respect both my strength and my restraint.

A woman who dominates the man in her life visibly does not respect him. That he allows it is all I need to know about him. And her. Modern feminism teaches Herd-woman that she can do anything a man can do. I find this among modern life's most astonishing absurdities.

Anonymous VFM #6306 September 16, 2016 1:08 PM  

Don't tread carefully. Tread on them. They shut up and either appreciate it or pout in silence. Tread hard. False accusations get throat-crushed by the truth that treads hard.

Blogger dc.sunsets September 16, 2016 1:10 PM  

Women who are conflict-prone with men are the same to me as men who are conflict-prone. I need not take the time, effort and risk to beat sense into them. I can walk away happy in the knowledge that sooner or later, that antagonistic clown will pick the wrong target, someone who shares my ability to strike back with power but who lacks my restraint.

Never insult a small man. He might knife or shoot you. Women don't even seem to know that even a small man doesn't need more than his hands.

Blogger dc.sunsets September 16, 2016 1:17 PM  

@5 Who deals with a 2 year old's tantrum by walking away from the child to let the tantrum burn itself out? No one with any sense.

Doesn't that depend? If it's your kid, I agree completely. If it's someone else's? Yeah, good luck with that. Imagine what happens if instead of a 2 year old, it's a 10 year old, in a 4th grade classroom. Anyone who touches that kid (other than to restrain them from hurting themselves) will be fired and in all likelihood prosecuted, plus be hit with a civil suit.

In anarcho-tyranny, theory conflicts with self-preservation.

The same applies to aggressive women. The same applies to aggressive men. It may seem great to fight for the Right, but in today's world that can cost you $50,000 in legal fees and you still risk your life being destroyed by a conviction.

I never deal with screaming women. Ever. Maybe just looking at me gives even the bat-guano crazy ones pause. Maybe I just don't go places where they gather.

Anonymous Casey September 16, 2016 1:23 PM  

I don't disagree with the article. But I think it's important to understand that there's many women out there who are toxic beyond redemption. Men are an income and a sperm bank to them Many of them hold deep seated resentment to males and if you end up married to one you'll have the resentment for the entire gender heaped upon your back.

I had one like that for 18 years. Mine was also very intelligent and possessed quite a talent for extremely devious passive aggressive behavior.

Passive aggressive behavior from a female spouse will literally drive a man to violence after many years.

There's no fixing those types. You have to separate from them permanently or they'll destroy both of you.

I got out in time to save myself. But just barely.

Blogger pyrrhus September 16, 2016 1:28 PM  

The brutal evolutionary fact is that post-menopausal women are greatly devalued because they can't perform their primary function, so they need to make up for that by being useful....Women don't like that....

Anonymous johnc September 16, 2016 1:31 PM  

I'd like to know what years and years and years and years and years and years of ingesting exogenous unnatural hormones does to a woman. I'm inclined to believe that there is at least some kind of permanent damage to the hormone system.

There are also studies that show that male testosterone values have plummeted over the past century, so that could partially explain the increased conflict-avoidance behavior.

Blogger Zundfolge September 16, 2016 1:35 PM  

As a man married to a woman going through the throws of menopause I can attest to the difficulty. My wife has developed a pretty serious case of OCD (real OCD, not simply being well organized) and tremendous hypochondria about breast cancer. She has mood swings and the typical menopause issues. But she's not all that angry because she's a traditionalist with a healthy attitude about the changes of life and mostly she has a personal relationship with Jesus Christ who does more to calm her down than I could ever do.

The problem isn't really leftism, feminism, etc. Those are just symptoms of western civilization's abandonment of its Christian roots.

Oh and she refuses to do HRT because of her fears of cancer ... I think there's psychological benefits of not going on hormone replacement but can't prove it.

Blogger VD September 16, 2016 1:38 PM  

Tread carefully.

No, you coward. Men like you are enablers of female lunacy. Don't tread carefully. Tread boldly. Tread like a master of the universe.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents September 16, 2016 1:39 PM  


I never deal with screaming women. Ever.


So you're not married?

Blogger VD September 16, 2016 1:39 PM  

I don't disagree with the article. But I think it's important to understand that there's many women out there who are toxic beyond redemption.

Obviously. But if you take no shit from them, they won't be part of your life for long.

Blogger Amy September 16, 2016 1:44 PM  

@7 Susan, I think you just gave me fodder for a doctoral thesis! Not that I'm pursuing one, but I suspect academia will, being it follows social trends, open itself up to that which previously Must Not Be Said/Studied/Pondered (at least without tons of excuses as to the how/why).

Blogger Ransom Smith September 16, 2016 1:46 PM  

Bring back the rule of thumb!!!!

Blogger SamuraiJack September 16, 2016 1:48 PM  

I have to walk away when my wife fights with me. My arguments, no matter how sound they are, do not work. I just have to wait until she is done being angry. Nothing else seems to work

Blogger residentMoron September 16, 2016 1:49 PM  

@dc.sunsets (15)

Yeah. I was raised in a culture where adults were expected to supervise, and discipline when necessary, all and any children in the vicinity.

That culture is largely dead today. Litigious pointers and shriekers have attacked it relentlessly, and activist judges have nailed the lid on its coffin.

Anonymous Casey September 16, 2016 1:50 PM  

The problem with "the shit" is, it's camouflaged when it's passive aggressive.

For example, she get's pissed off and you and wrecks the car. Or, you go away for a week with friends and return to find that the sump pump mysteriously came unplugged and allowed the basement to flood, destroying your firearm collection which is stored in a safe down there.

A decade of dealing with such incidents will drive a man to a level of anger that he's never known.

That's when it's time to get out.

Anonymous brentg September 16, 2016 1:51 PM  

I wonder if women ever really experience a man's strength. I remember when my kids were about 9-11 years old and we'd wrestle, sometimes they'd get her to help gang up on me. The first few times she was very surprised that she was no more effective that my 11 year old son. I remember her commenting that she had no idea the gulf between our strength was that large. Experiencing that gulf did leave an impression - she now no longer believes that a normal woman could stand against even a small man.

Blogger dc.sunsets September 16, 2016 1:52 PM  

@21 Married. For 34 years. Screamed at? zero. Wrap in courtship, number of times screamed at? zero.

Why would it be otherwise?

All successful relationships (including parent-child, man-woman, man-man, woman-woman, work superior-work subordinate, even master-dog) are based on mutual respect. I may have tolerated unsuccessful work relationships out of financial need, but inside a family?

What fool does that?

Blogger Ostar September 16, 2016 1:56 PM  

The darker side of male traits dominant in a culture is Barbarism. The darker side of female traits dominant in a culture is Decadence and Decline.

The brighter side of male traits dominant brings out the brighter side of female traits and complement each other, and together you have healthy Civilization.

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Blogger Aeoli Pera September 16, 2016 1:58 PM  

VFM #6306 wrote:I doubt that "Shrew, Thou Art Tamed!" is going to outsell to "Woman, Thou Art Loosed!"

But I'd like to see it tried.


What if I used known characters (from, say, Twilight) and made it dramatic and sexy?

Blogger dc.sunsets September 16, 2016 1:59 PM  

@26 residentMoron,

I almost caused a nuclear war inside my wife's extended family when I disciplined a 3-year-old niece who thought it fun to climb onto a pool table and jump up and down while attending a different brother-in-law's wedding reception (at a bar.) I did to her what I did to my sons: I put her on my lap, held her there, and explained that 1) I was a hundred times stronger than her and could hold her there forever, 2) as soon as she stopped struggling I'd put her on the chair next to me at which point I'd 3) attempt to explain the infraction a few times, and if that didn't satisfy her then the answer was "because I said so," and 4) she'd sit there for five minutes, time starts at the second step above.

Sister-in-law blew a fuse. Hardly a surprise, I'd have married a wooden Indian before I'd have married that hag.

Blogger Aeoli Pera September 16, 2016 2:03 PM  

Ostar wrote:The darker side of male traits dominant in a culture is Barbarism. The darker side of female traits dominant in a culture is Decadence and Decline.

The brighter side of male traits dominant brings out the brighter side of female traits and complement each other, and together you have healthy Civilization.


That's an interesting observation in light of Glubb's The Fate of Empires. Barbarism -> Wealth -> Decadence.

Blogger dc.sunsets September 16, 2016 2:06 PM  

@28 My wife is well aware of the strength gulf. But then, she's average height & slim for a woman and I'm large (not extra-large) and only dropped to a free-weight bench press workout with 160 lb on the bar because I don't have a spotter. There's good chance I could still bench my own weight. And it's easy to infer my age from how long I've been married.

Vox has written about the cluelessness of women, esp. those who fancy themselves boxers or "fighters," and what happens if they actually face a man in a ring where he's willing to hit them hard.

Billy Jean King vs Bobby Riggs it ain't.

Anonymous johnc September 16, 2016 2:08 PM  

@25 I have to walk away when my wife fights with me. My arguments, no matter how sound they are, do not work. I just have to wait until she is done being angry. Nothing else seems to work

Have you tried the back of your hand?

Blogger Matamoros September 16, 2016 2:08 PM  

I used to believe that women civilized men.

This is just more b.s. that we were "educated" with, so we would believe the little woman was our "better half". Yeah, right.

Without men in control they are stark raving nuts.

#11 Telling women to STFU might work some times...

When she tries to pick an argument over something meaningless, STFU is always a correct answer.

Otherwise it never ends, just simmers. Only after telling her that, if she continues is it worthwhile to get up calmly and walkout with her in mid-sentence.

#6 Matt: Arab culture is profoundly broken in ways that go WAY beyond sex...

Excellent. Right on target. Too bad more cannot see this as yet.

#9 Lazarus Supposedly, female brains are more complex...

If this were true women would be more productive, more creative and more inventive than men. None of which is observably true.

Therefore...can it be that the Creator God designed them with limiters in their brains so they would perform their function as helpmeets and mothers, and that's it? And when they try to go beyond that they go batshit crazy?

#4 JSCIII The proactive approach works well with women in all stages of life….

I’ve found that when she starts to rant or fight, the best thing to do is to go over and put my arms around hers and hold her tightly there until she calms down.

Typically she’ll then apologize somehow. At that point the best thing to do is to kiss her a couple times, take her hand and head for the bedroom. Everything’s good with her after she's had sex (even if we'd done it earlier).

You must show your are in control.

Anonymous Casey September 16, 2016 2:08 PM  

Here's a woman who had a very bad idea.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRfCpQx_FDE

Anonymous andon September 16, 2016 2:11 PM  

it helps if people just act like adults. the TV has encouraged people to believe that relationships need to be big drama

Blogger dc.sunsets September 16, 2016 2:18 PM  

@28, the ignorance of women has serious consequences. A typical man can be knocked flat if his attacker is able to close and strike without warning.

These stupid blonde cheerleaders who go home (particularly) with black athletes, especially after they've had a few drinks (either or both), might as well juggle bottles of nitroglycerin. The guy (or often his buddies/roommates) can make her do whatever they want. Her consent is completely unnecessary.

But women are more prone to herding than men, and playing the "look how open-minded I am" card in the perpetual war of every woman against all women Virtue Signal Contest is very attractive to girls whose parents were too f-ing stupid to force some clues into the otherwise empty-headed cxyt.

Blogger CM September 16, 2016 2:25 PM  

Being a woman, some observations...

The first few times a man asserts himself will feel like it goes over like a lead balloon. But like disciplining children, the more consistent you are, the easier it gets.

Speaking from my own experience. The first time my husband asserted, i completely ignored him and did it anyway RIGHT IN FRONT OF HIM. I haven't done that since...

I don't really know what got into me. Even reading here and knowing this stuff, its like a blind, raging monster takes over.

Blogger Student in Blue September 16, 2016 2:26 PM  

If this were true women would be more productive, more creative and more inventive than men.

More complex, in any case and situation, is never the same thing as more efficient or more powerful.

Blogger dc.sunsets September 16, 2016 2:28 PM  

Not the best editing or the best examples, but some of this is just plain funny.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvRYEo8EFkc

Blogger dc.sunsets September 16, 2016 2:33 PM  

IMO, a man who chooses to assert himself better make sure he's not escalated into that mental place where reason diminishes and restraint disappears.

Bad things happen there, and if you like your guns you'd better not do your part in getting a domestic violence charge placed. Simply grabbing her upper arm while not minimizing grip strength will leave "four fingers and a thumb" bruises for a week, more than long enough for hell to start raining.

Masculinity includes being more dangerous than a tiger, cuter than a polar bear and more restrained than a monk. Knowing when to release the tiger is one of life's great challenges.

Blogger Amy September 16, 2016 2:34 PM  

@ 26...I don't know if looking to the past is the way. I think my brother's version of history would differ from my dad's, and definitely from grandpa's, and great-grandpa wouldn't know WTF we were all talking about.

We come from a strong traditional family, but it's been eroding steadily since the mid-1900s. More divorces despite having fewer children. Less expressed satisfaction or dissatisfaction in marriage. More education, more money earned, more opportunity...less happiness.

so I wonder if some think they are perpetuating traditional values but not seeing the subtle ways in which they've already been compromised and devalued. Not that some families don't know the value and are willing to be vanguard, but on the whole pop-cult values defenders may not realize how much they've already lost just by dint of time and slow erosion of the core value.

Blogger Durandel Almiras September 16, 2016 2:38 PM  

Are the women in the photos for the article the actual women mentioned in the piece, or just model stand-ins? If the former, these 3 women are truly atrocious, twisting their spoiled-child behavior into 15 seconds of attention.

Something to note though, if you are a man, and you've encountered this behavior repeatedly from the same woman, you should take time to reassess yourself and your socio-sexual script.

OpenID basementhomebrewer September 16, 2016 2:40 PM  

I've never experienced it. At least as of yet. I am not married but have had several long term relationships. The current one has said to me several times "I don't think you would put up with that from me" when talking about some of my friend's spouses. Pretty much all of my girlfriends have said similar things at one point or another. I do not actively try to make this point so it must be something I naturally do that gives this impression, which makes me wonder if it something that can actually be taught.

Anonymous BGKB September 16, 2016 2:52 PM  

If this were true women would be more productive, more creative and more inventive than men.

If women had more empathy than men single moms would come up and apologize to me for what they do to my taxes.

Simply grabbing her upper arm while not minimizing grip strength will leave "four fingers and a thumb" bruises for a week

Faggots are all talking about the 69yo woman that claims a TRUMP supporting man punched her in the face with no bruising.

Blogger SQT September 16, 2016 3:05 PM  

@47 I think there are innate qualities in a man that lets a woman know she better not cross a certain line.

I dated a guy before I met my husband who seemed alpha on the surface but who who would put up with a shocking amount of abuse from his ex. I didn't know until after a couple of dates that he had a young child with this woman and when she found out about me the she went crazy and he acted like it was normal. I couldn't get out of there fast enough.

I hate drama and do everything I can to maintain a peaceful household.

Blogger Zeroh Tollrants September 16, 2016 3:07 PM  

No matter the situation, business or pleasure, any man who "treads carefully," and appears to falsely placate me if I'm angry, will be crushed under my shoe.
NEVER do this with women, women are diabolical and cruel in their revenge. One of my favorite things to tell ppl as an example is that an angry man will punch you in the face. An angry woman will superglue your dick to your stomach, 3 weeks later.

Blogger dc.sunsets September 16, 2016 3:09 PM  

it must be something I naturally do that gives this impression

This. For all the Alpha Game rules, I question whether a man can be taught to autonomically disdain any objectionable behavior from a woman. Looking back, the only time I took such crap was as a salesman I believed I had no choice. In a sales situation where the market is saturated the gatekeeper bitches did exercise power. I'm not a charmer.

@45 Amy Less expressed satisfaction or dissatisfaction in marriage. I pin this on 24/7 saturation with commercial culture, whose purpose is to teach you you're unhappy, and present whatever snake oil they sell as the "fix."

"Grass is greener" syndrome is perhaps the single most pervasive vice extant. The sad part is that a "boring" life offers the greatest probability for happiness for most people (the exception being the sociopaths among us.) The on-ramp to Happiness Path is almost always paved by self-improvement and encouraging those closest to you (unless they're sociopaths.) Husbands and wives get slim together. Spend time together. Vacation together with the kiddies. All the Ozzie & Harriet stuff the Ad Men try to tell us is crap (so buy their soap!)

Our society encourages people to believe in fantasies, e.g., we don't have to get old, we can have our money and spend it too, loneliness is fun, etc. In a nutshell, we're told we need not make choices, and that new & different is always better than familiar and worn-in. Once again, because they want to sell you their crap.

No wonder people are miserable & depressed in what is one small step off the best time in human history to be alive.

Blogger Zeroh Tollrants September 16, 2016 3:15 PM  

I'm a woman, been married 30 yrs, let me offer u the solution. You look her directly in the eye, and in a calm, even voice, you say, "Cut the shit, bitch, or I'm walking out the door for good. I'm not having it, anymore." Then turn and walk away and get in your car for a drive. Do not argue or turn around and return jabs at her. If you MUST say anything in reply, say "I've had my say, I won't repeat myself."
Quit letting her get away w that horse shit.

Blogger Zeroh Tollrants September 16, 2016 3:16 PM  

No. Never.

Blogger CashBailey September 16, 2016 3:24 PM  

I can concur.

At 26 I went to work in a hospital kitchen and the whole staff was middle-aged menoopausal women, and with the exception of maybe two of them they were all raging, miserable cunts.

Everything that was wrong in their life they brought to work with them and took it out on everyone else. Well, ME mostly.

I was there for just over a year before I got out of that viper pit into another department.

Anonymous a deplorable rubberducky September 16, 2016 3:24 PM  

I used to think women were more civilized and also nicer, too, when I was young. That's what I was constantly told everywhere, after all. "Sugar and spice and everything nice," right? And it seemed to track my limited experience in the classroom, playgrounds, etc.

When studying literature in school, especially from the Romantic and Victorian period, a common theme kept popping up about the dangers of the female libido and female sexuality, and I always thought it odd. There's even a strong recurring meme about vampirism and vitality sapping. Wasn't male sexuality more dangerous and also given to taboo, fetish, homosexuality and whatnot?

When we got to the suffragette movement we were taught that winning argument was that the female vote would civilize the male vote. That was the added value.

It took me many years as society slowly changed in response to the female psyche unleashed that the old Romantics and Victorians were on to something, and the suffragettes had it backwards. Younger women were cruder, meaner, more overly pluckish year by year. Older ones became lonelier, more shrewish.

I was very happy to discover this site years ago and finding Vox articulating this concept that feminism is in fact dsycivic. That's the perfect word. Over time it will destroy a civilization, in fact. And that process is well underway today. Women voters are why we have these huge, unaffordable, socially meddling nanny states. They are why Western birthrates all have plummeted below replacement levels. They have sapped vitality and nimbleness out of every organization they have joined, such as the military, the boardrooms, upper division classes, you name it. And you can't talk about any of this in polite society, which they also have come to dominate, or misogyny. Critiques of males can be and are lodged all day long. Zero criticism of the girls allowed.

Just like in the famous story of Eden, they are going to be our downfall. And not even know it.

Anonymous andon September 16, 2016 3:29 PM  

52. Blogger Zeroh Tollrants September 16, 2016 3:15 PM
I'm a woman, been married 30 yrs, let me offer u the solution. You look her directly in the eye, and in a calm, even voice, you say, "Cut the shit, bitch, or I'm walking out the door for good. I'm not having it, anymore." Then turn and walk away and get in your car for a drive. Do not argue or turn around and return jabs at her. If you MUST say anything in reply, say "I've had my say, I won't repeat myself."
Quit letting her get away w that horse shit.


you have to do this several times in your life (walk out for good) so when you say it, there wont be any doubt in her mind that you're serious.
otherwise it may sound like idle threats

Blogger Amy September 16, 2016 3:31 PM  

@51, I have enjoyed your comments for years, FWIW. And generally, I agree. Advertising culture pin-points dissatisfaction and aims to correct any perceived deficiencies. This has been a circular pattern for decades, almost a century, now, as far as documented psycho-social "sciences" are concerned.

I do not dispute the pernicious influence pop-culture has had on women's attitudes. Everything from perceived worth to expected status is under siege...undermine women and their expectations, undermine the society.

Anonymous andon September 16, 2016 3:32 PM  

the problem is people are convinced that they cant do any better (in terms of a significant other) or don't deserve any better. if you start walking away from the trash you begin to have more respect for yourself and start attracting better people

Anonymous Viidad September 16, 2016 3:33 PM  

SamuraiJack wrote:I have to walk away when my wife fights with me. My arguments, no matter how sound they are, do not work. I just have to wait until she is done being angry. Nothing else seems to work

This is like fighting rhetoric with dialectic. Don't argue. Dismiss with contempt. Smirk if she screams at you and shake your head like you're dealing with a retarded puppy.

Blogger GoodShipG September 16, 2016 3:50 PM  

When I get emotional my husband simply never engages, he never takes the bait. I can't tell you how great that is.

Blogger bob k. mando ( the hardest troll here ) September 16, 2016 3:50 PM  

4. JACIII September 16, 2016 12:51 PM
If your woman is cranky, provided she's getting laid regularly, you haven't been a dick to her lately.


so, if i understand you aright, what you're saying is, "women need the dick AND they need the dick"?



9. Lazarus September 16, 2016 12:58 PM
Beer is safer.



pseudo-estrogens can be beneficial for cup size.

that's really all you need to know.

Anonymous Jill September 16, 2016 3:57 PM  

Carbohydrate withdrawal in the absence of a strong man to incentivize good behavior. Almost all of the rage incidents in the original article were disputes over food or territory.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents September 16, 2016 3:58 PM  

Deplorable dc.sunsets
I question whether a man can be taught to autonomically disdain any objectionable behavior from a woman.

Your question is ridiculous. Of course we can be taught that. Some learn it early, some learn it late, some never learn it. But it is taught all the time.

Some men teach it to their sons, for example.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents September 16, 2016 4:02 PM  

a deplorable rubberducky
When we got to the suffragette movement we were taught that winning argument was that the female vote would civilize the male vote. That was the added value.


Then teh ladies went out and voted in large numbers for Warren G. Harding for President in 1920. One slogan called him "The Handsomest Man in America". They set the tone early for all their granddaughters who voted for Bill Clinton in the 90's.

Blogger F. Brown September 16, 2016 4:07 PM  

Up thread some people mentioned that walking is a bad idea if a woman is throwing a fit. Why is that? Unfortunately, this is all still very foreign to me, having grown up in a household of 5 women and no real male influence.

Blogger Sheila4g September 16, 2016 4:10 PM  

@52 Zero Tollrants: "Then turn and walk away and get in your car for a drive."

This. Woman married for 26 years here. The first (and one of the very few) really large fights my husband and I had (over serious issue regarding our family's future - not me being hysterical or unreasonable), my husband did just that. Just roared at me and walked out. I had no idea where he'd gone or if he'd come back - and our son was just 2 at the time. I remember feeling really worried about that - and about him (was he so angry he crashed the car? etc.). Returned some time in the a.m and said he'd gone for a drive. We then discussed the issue rationally.

What normal adult wants to live amidst constant drama? I get up and make my husband breakfast not because he expects me to, but because it's the least I can do when he's going off to work to support me and our sons. I "keep house" and do the errands or make the calls he asks me to because I know he doesn't have the time, and we each have different things we contribute to our successful marriage. We disagree as any two normal people will, and we each have habits that drive the other nuts at times, but we love and respect one another and, in the end, we both know HE is the head of the household, as he is intended to be.

Blogger S. Misanthrope September 16, 2016 4:26 PM  

"Men civilize women, while women incentivize men to pursue civilization." Perfect observation!

An evolutionary biologist friend of mine is convinced that men are quickly becoming obsolete. I haven't yet articulated very clearly to him why I don't believe this will ever be the case. The destructive side of female psychology is the biggest piece of that "why." Zero things are better when run by all women, not even childbirth. Some things seem to be better when run by all men but not at a macro level.

Blogger Matamoros September 16, 2016 5:06 PM  

The reality is the opposite. Women are rapidly becoming obsolete.

They have now figured out how to make an egg cell from normal cells and fertilize it with sperm, which then develops as a normal fetus.

http://www.dailystormer.com/scientists-breed-healthy-mice-from-artificially-developed-egg/

Add into this the AI Sexbots who will become virtually indistinguishable from a woman, without the drama and bitchiness, and you have a winner for most men.

All that needs done to complete the process is the artificial womb development completed.

The end of feminism. A man needs a woman like a bike needs a fish.

I'm not in favor of this, but you can spy this coming quickly.

Blogger VD September 16, 2016 5:11 PM  

Go away, Rollo. Neither your company nor your comments are desired here.

Blogger Jewel September 16, 2016 5:16 PM  

I can't speak for anyone but myself, but I'm well-ensconced into menopause, and I have never been happier! I have far fewer mood swings, and much less monthly angst and pain. Plus grandchildren. That's a bonus.

Blogger Sevron September 16, 2016 5:33 PM  

Wife was simmering or upset about something (honestly don't recall) and decided to bring it out while bathing our daughter by trying to start something over using an extra hand towel. I just gave her my best shit eating grin and told her "We can have a fight if you really need to, but I just refuse to fight about towels. You're going to have to pick something else."

She just stared at me and finished the bath without further comment. All sunshine by the time my daughter fell asleep. Only 4 years ago, I'd have tried to dialectic my way out and crashed and burned royally. My unconditional and eternal hanks to Vox and others for teaching me how women really work. It's been immensely helpful personally and professionally.

Blogger dc.sunsets September 16, 2016 5:38 PM  

@57 Amy, thanks. Don't get me wrong, though. I'm not piling on women. I like women (in general) and love one (and love two little girls, my granddaughters.)

When my first layoff arrived it was me who got up and cooked an omelet for us to split each day. It was natural that once my occupation dried up and hers didn't, I took over the domestic chores. Heinlein was right; a man has to be able to do a long list of things, specialization is for insects. Today I turned some Mackintosh apples we picked at a local orchard into apple sauce. Mmmmm.

I've had to fix some things in myself along the way, surprisingly fewer than my wife if you accept the common premise opposed to feminism. We're a good team, better than 35 years ago, better than 5 years ago. My formative years were less than ideal.

Both she and I have had our eyes opened these past few years, though. A lot of female activity in my presence has been reinterpreted as what amounted to an outright assault on her (by some witch trying to get my attention as a slap. "Don't you wish your wife (GF) was hot like me" is pretty typical female behavior.

A college suite-mate of my wife one day showed me (in her presence) a Polaroid selfie (long before smartphones) of her and two others flashing their tits to the camera. This was a girl who actually said, and I quote verbatim, "I want to put my face on his next O."

Sugar and spice and everything nice is not what many women are. This makes those who really are sweet-natured, honorable, reserved and devoted all the more special. If only such qualities could be bottled, or the discernment of them made easy. Of course, the same could be said for me. Most people, men and women, are throw-backs, aren't they?

Blogger Unknown September 16, 2016 5:45 PM  

African culture is the result of the unrestrained female psyche. Arab culture is the result of the unrestrained male psyche.

This is interesting. Since Arab and African immigrants are being blamed for breaking the back of Vox's Western Civilization, in time these two paradigms should cancel each other out, not add to each other. 'Cancel' could just mean vanish like plus and minus in arithmetic but could also mean cataclysmic annihilation like matter and anti-matter. God's will be done, though His methods may seem strange to us.

Either way, wouldn't it be better to remain neutral like the Swiss? If Christian, be meek and inherit the earth. If not, plan for eventualities. It makes little sense to stand in the way when jungle meets scythe after making yourself an enemy of them both. Interesting use of color but not a great strategy for the white.

Blogger papabear September 16, 2016 6:03 PM  

73. Who is voluntarily standing in the way? It'd be about preventing collateral damage.

Blogger weka September 16, 2016 6:05 PM  

I wonder if women ever really experience a man's strength. I remember when my kids were about 9-11 years old and we'd wrestle, sometimes they'd get her to help gang up on me. The first few times she was very surprised that she was no more effective that my 11 year old son. I remember her commenting that she had no idea the gulf between our strength was that large. Experiencing that gulf did leave an impression - she now no longer believes that a normal woman could stand against even a small man.

Any mixed crossfit class demonstrates this. The male set weights are higher so that men take about as long to finish the workout. Yesterday we were doing max throws with medicine balls, and at the end one of the better guys picked up the girl's ball and tried that. It flew across the entire 30m gym. The girls were getting 7m at best.

Most fit young women have the strength of an equally trained 60 year old man.

Anonymous Susan September 16, 2016 6:06 PM  

@73

Meek doesn't mean what you think it does. God has never told anyone they need to be a doormat. That is the secular and wrong version of the term meek.

Jesus was a meek and humble man, yet he took a whip to the moneylenders in his Father's temple. He could also let rip with a devastating rant against the Pharisees and Saducees of the day.

Blogger papabear September 16, 2016 6:11 PM  

71. Good job!

Blogger Amy September 16, 2016 6:23 PM  

D.c, the " her face on his next/every O" thing is well documented with you. Yeah, women want primacy. Big surprise. Deserving it is another thing.

A witch's spell is powerful if you let it be. Is any one of us powerless unless we surrender?

Blogger Unknown September 16, 2016 6:26 PM  

Be silent woman, with your foolish 'doormat' inventions. Rebuke the younger women.

Blogger tuberman September 16, 2016 6:31 PM  

This whole scope of male/female relationships and what to do about them to save Western Civilization is critical. I'm convinced that most women deep in their psyche hate civilization. Women primarily operate on an unconscious level, and civilization takes conscious efforts to sustain it.

Today we only have a few people who contain an overall perspective of human civilizations at every level or even what Western Civilization MEANS on a conscious, or further, a genetic level. How many people have insight into what the first Roman Laws that were written out meant to the advances of Rome to a modern type civilization, or how the slow developement of Common Law in England changed everything. In a way both Globalism and the Muslim Criminal Enterprise can be looked at as the updated versions of MASS MINDEDNESS, adding to the old Marxism's mass mindedness, they can be seen as fellow travellers. What works against all these forms of idiocy? Well, a generalized Western Civilization, or Alt-West, or a belief in the right for Whites to have their own everything, or Alt-White.

Without Whites looking at themselves as White, and without Western Civilization, a large part of the planet stares into nothingness, and a Dark Ages that will be worse than the last Dark Ages, as at least some monks retained some of the ancient civilization to start the Renaissance. Both Globalism and the Muslim Criminal Enterprise are mere emptiness without creativity, insight or hope for the Human.

Anonymous Supertankers of Deplorable Spartacus September 16, 2016 6:44 PM  

S. Misanthrope wrote:"Men civilize women, while women incentivize men to pursue civilization." Perfect observation!

Yes. Deplorable as it may be, it's right up there with "women are solipsistic" (which is different from narcissistic), another contribution to civilization from The Supreme Dark Lord, iirc.

Anonymous VFM 9054 September 16, 2016 8:04 PM  

Seems relevant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVb6VHvCupw

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Anonymous andon September 16, 2016 9:21 PM  

@ #83 - I think the remaining Generals are the ones who saw others getting fired and decided they'd rather have their pensions than disagree with current occupant's policies.

Anonymous Luke September 16, 2016 9:59 PM  

One plausible explanation as to where the ubiquitous gross malfunctioning of women originates: Rich Zubaty in his book "What Men Know That Women Don't" notes that pre-agriculture, women had on average only about 10 menstrual cycles during their lives. Now, Western women average more like 400. That's FORTY times as much PMS affecting their judgement (and that men have to put up with) as is supposed to happen. Where else would feminism have come from?

Blogger Marie September 16, 2016 10:02 PM  

I grew up with 5 older brothers. They never treated me like the "treasured little sister" our society expected them to. I was treated like an annoying tag along.

They had no tolerance for most of my emotional outbursts. Especially, if the outbursts were angry or designed to manipulate. They had no problems telling me to get lost or finding other ways of expressing their disapproval.

They did protect me. But only from real threats and they did so while treating me like a pain for getting into trouble. They never acted like a "white knight" or rushed to get into a fight to prove what good big brothers they were.

They started dating. The way they treated their girlfriends, wives and later daughters was almost the opposite of me. I was still young when some of them got married. It enraged me when they would smack me down for something and then turn around and tolerate it in their wife.

Now, as an adult, I can see I got the better deal. I married a man a lot kinder than my brothers but one that doesn't put up with crap either. All of my brothers are either divorced or have some serious struggles with either their wives or daughters.

The funny thing was even when I thought they were unfair and absolute jerks I respected them. Now, not so much.

Anonymous Luke September 16, 2016 10:11 PM  

52. Zeroh Tollrants September 16, 2016 3:15 PM
I'm a woman, been married 30 yrs, let me offer u the solution. You look her directly in the eye, and in a calm, even voice, you say, "Cut the shit, bitch, or I'm walking out the door for good. I'm not having it, anymore." Then turn and walk away and get in your car for a drive. Do not argue or turn around and return jabs at her. If you MUST say anything in reply, say "I've had my say, I won't repeat myself."
Quit letting her get away w that horse shit.


While dating, sure. Father married to such an evil, irrational, zero-ethical-boundary-respecting witch with minor children he doesn't want to permanently convert into distant nieces and nephews? Why not just suggest he play Russian Roulette (with multiple rounds in the cylinder, not just one) while aiming at his genitals, knees, and elbows? It'd run about the same average good life result, between the unrestrained inherent malice in the median Ameriskank woman, and the Stalinesque divorce court penal system.

Blogger jandolin September 16, 2016 10:17 PM  

Arab culture is profoundly broken in ways

If Arab culture has become cruel and despotic, the American political class which supports the Al Saud family must be held
responsible. The Bush family would be a good place to investigate the roots of the sick Wahabi culture which has been propagated by the Al Saud family for decades,

Blogger Miss Carnivorous September 16, 2016 10:31 PM  

My experience would be the exact opposite. I only sought out male company whilst I was ovulating. My relationships lasted 2 weeks, 2 months and only 2 lasted, 2 years. I was desperately afraid of being abandoned and so engaged n jealous and obsessive behavior. I also would dump guys before they could dump me!
After menopause, I am chill, chill. No more female hormones to drive me and the men around me crazy. My exes all remark upon how relaxed I am now and crazily wish that they had stayed with me. The truth is they would have had 20 years of misery! Instead they had 5,7 and 10 years of equal misery with their other girlfriends and wives.

Anonymous andon September 16, 2016 10:41 PM  

@ #88 - what was arab culture like 100 years ago?

sounds pretty silly to blame Americans for someone else's behavior

Blogger 100% American September 16, 2016 11:33 PM  

"I used to believe that women civilized men. However, as I've gotten older, I've realized that it is more the other way around. Men civilize women, while women incentivize men to pursue civilization."

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I've been a lurker for awhile on this site. I have enjoyed it immensely. I finally had to weigh in.

Put simply, feminism ruined women (and ruined the world overall). Marxist feminism struck at the heart of the home and did its damage. Before, women understood their value within the core structure of civilization. But after Marx and Engels got through with them, they were forever searching for fulfillment that they had soundly rejected.

I also believe women (the ones who continue to fight the good fight against oppressive feminism), still civilize men. But I liked what you said, Vox... about incentivizing men. I can see this.

I also believe that men are a woman's anchor (and my husband already knows my views on this since I thank him often for being mine).

Men ground women. There really is no other way to put it. Women are too often carried away by their emotions. A kite can fly high but only if gently -- and at times, not so gently -- guided. Good men, loving men, and strong men will reign in a woman so she doesn't end up flying off course and crash into a tree.

I have never seen this as a "less than/more than" proposition, which is often how feminists view such a topic. We need each other. And the sooner a woman owns up to her irrational anger, the better it is for all.

Anonymous brentg September 16, 2016 11:46 PM  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhGz-_OLgOg

Not sure if this has been posted on VP, but it is making its rounds. Brace yourself, your going to want to punch something...

Anonymous Deplorable Jack Amok September 16, 2016 11:59 PM  

Up thread some people mentioned that walking is a bad idea if a woman is throwing a fit. Why is that?

You ever see the video footage of Ray Rice knocking his then-fiancée (now wife) out cold with a single punch in an elevator? They were having an argument. He tried to walk away, but he was in a damn elevator so he couldn't walk very far. He went to the far corner of the elevator. She followed him and got right back in his face. Then he lost it and decked her.

Or there's another NFL player, Frank Clark. He was kicked off his college team for "domestic violence" but he was never charged because the DA (a female even) discovered the real story. His girlfriend was arguing with him. He walked away. She chased after him and started hitting him. He shoved her out of the way. He's a defensive lineman - 6'3", 250+ lbs. She got a little hurt just being shoved.

Women - when they get into that zone - don't have control of themselves. They've launched into a shit-test and they're going to keep upping the volume until they get a sufficient response. if you try to just walk away, they're going to chase you down to continue the confrontation and up the volume. You haven't passed the shit-test and they're going to continue proctoring it until you do.

Instead of you walking away, you're better off telling them to get their fucking useless carcass out of your sight. Or, if you want to leave, look at them with a clear sense of disgust on your face, shake your head, and say something like "what the fuck I'm doing wasting my time with you is a fucking mystery. Good bye." Then leave.

You cannot walk away letting them think they've cowed you into fleeing. If you let them think you're fleeing, they'll chase you. If on the other hand you make them think you weighed in your mind the two choices of a)walking away and b) wringing their God-damned neck, and decided on a), they'll ... end the confrontation. You passed the shit test.

Blogger tiarosa September 17, 2016 12:09 AM  

@60-
Ditto for my husband. When I get back to sanity I realize that I wouldn't respect him if he did.

Anonymous Ain September 17, 2016 2:29 AM  

@73 "This is interesting. Since Arab and African immigrants are being blamed for breaking the back of Vox's Western Civilization, in time these two paradigms should cancel each other out, not add to each other. 'Cancel' could just mean vanish like plus and minus in arithmetic but could also mean cataclysmic annihilation like matter and anti-matter."

Both are the enemy's cannon fodder.

Anonymous Pennywise September 17, 2016 2:59 PM  

The ultimate "shit-test" is God's judgment on the nature of the marriage between a man and a women, not some paradigm manufactured by men by which their brethren must "wring the neck" of their women folk when men believe they "get out of line".

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable September 17, 2016 4:27 PM  

Pennywise wrote:The ultimate "shit-test" is God's judgment on the nature of the marriage between a man and a women, not some paradigm manufactured by men by which their brethren must "wring the neck" of their women folk when men believe they "get out of line".

I reject your false premises, plural. God will judge us. That's all you got right.

Anonymous Avalanche September 17, 2016 4:37 PM  

@12
My husband believed (as I came to believe) that the wife should be just the tiniest bit afraid of her husband. (He also believed fundamentally, that for a man to strike a woman was as embarrassing to him as to appear naked in public; so while I recognized 100% that he was stronger and more violent than I, I also had no fear that he would ever hit or hurt me -- unless I did something so horrendous it was appropriate; and neither he nor I could ever think of something I might do that would warrant it.)

I don't know a way to make that NOT sound weird... It’s all tied in with understanding the natural hierarchy in male-female relations (in, well, all relations). There is ONE captain of the ship whose word is final (and whose accountability requires that authority); and while he listens to and consider what the 'first mate' needs, wants, or recommends, the first mate shuts the hell up when the decision is made. To me, that hierarchy was always 'the way of the world' -- alas, that younglings are now raised blind to that! (Or to believe it's upside down!)

It may be hard (or not?) for y'all to realize, but most women (even some of the horrible ones!) do in fact want to be 'possessed' by a man; however they (we!) have been brainwashed to resist that. Back when I was a shrill angry feminist, I used to get angry with myself because, if I passed a man in a hall, after a smile and greeting I would automatically drop my eyes -- and I HATED that! 'Damn it, I was as good as ANY man! WHY did I always drop my eyes?!'

Now, over the dread disease feminism, I get a self-directed chuckle because it is appropriate for the 'subordinate animal' to drop eyes, to signal subordination. (And my eyes still always do it... Well, to White men: the ones I naturally respect.)

I also consciously now look a man who opens a door for me in the eyes, and tell him directly: "thank you! I love gentlemen!" (That is, I view it as more than a subconscious gesture on his part, and an unconscious expectation / acceptance on mine. I want men to know at least THIS woman values their courtesy! (Yes, I used to get annoyed at men who opened my door... {sigh} I apologize to all men everywhere, but the feminist brainwashing was pitched perfectly to suit a modern woman’s world views...)

Anonymous Avalanche September 17, 2016 4:48 PM  

@25 "when my wife fights with me. My arguments, no matter how sound they are, do not work. I just have to wait until she is done being angry."

Rory Miller -- brilliant violence/martial arts/self-protection guru -- describes in an interview the different adrenaline responses of males and females.

He describes brilliantly the couple getting into a screaming argument. When the man reaches the end of his rope (his adrenaline response is at peak), he knows it and goes for a walk to cool off. By the time he has cooled off and his adrenaline has been metabolized away, he returns to her to continue a discussion -- and she is absolutely volcanic! Turns out HER adrenaline response is way slower (like 10-15 minutes slower!) than a man's. He's over his, and she's just now hitting hers! (Rory says this is a problem in training men and women in defense -- because the women are reluctant to 'react' soon enough; they're not yet adrenalized.)

He also describes, how he handled violent prisoners he was a prison guard, when the guy was all adrenalized and wanting to fight; Rory would go in the cell and say, "look, if a beating is what you want, I'll be back with men and handcuffs and force, but I've gotta finish something first, so, I'll be back in ten minutes..." And he'd do that a couple of times until he could see that the adrenaline had worn off, and then the guy was a) exhausted and b) manageable without force. But, he warns, that would never ever work with women prisoners!

Anonymous Avalanche September 17, 2016 5:09 PM  

@50 "No matter the situation, business or pleasure, any man who "treads carefully," and appears to falsely placate me if I'm angry, will be crushed under my shoe."

Only if the man ALLOWS you to "crush him." If you were truly this sort of woman (and God help you if you are!), most men could backhand you into unconsciousness and take your shoes, if he wished! Do not assume that because, generally, men restrain themselves towards women, that somehow women are their equals. (Modern feminist brainwashing!)

The scaling is not precise, but if you think, in general, of a man being as much stronger than a woman, as a chimp is than a man, you'll have the right "attitude" about the men around you. As Rabbi B wrote somewhere here about his people: you/we are GUESTS in men's civilization, it behooves us to ACT that way and be grateful.

Anonymous Avalanche September 17, 2016 5:19 PM  

@52 "You look her directly in the eye, and in a calm, even voice, you say, "Cut the shit, bitch, or I'm walking out the door for good. I'm not having it, anymore." Then turn and walk away and get in your car for a drive. Do not argue or turn around and return jabs at her. If you MUST say anything in reply, say "I've had my say, I won't repeat myself."
Quit letting her get away w that horse shit."

MOST men don't want an enemy in the house. If your man has to verbally batter you to get you to act respectfully toward him, it doesn't speak well for your educability nor for his control of the relationship! If a woman has to "act up" to a level that elicits such a put-down to get her view or want or need discussed or considered, then there's a LOT more wrong than merely her lack of respect!

(Have you never trained a horse or a dog? If you let misbehavior go unaddressed long enough that you need this level of "correction" -- well, you're a less-than-adequate animal trainer!)

Anonymous Avalanche September 17, 2016 5:27 PM  

@56 "you have to do this several times in your life (walk out for good) so when you say it, there wont be any doubt in her mind that you're serious. otherwise it may sound like idle threats"

If you have to THREATEN your woman, you're doing relationship wrong! How is a good, solid, happy relationship to be built or continued if you have to make threats to 'force' her to do or not do anything?! If you have kids, if 'walking out for good' something you think is appropriate? (What will your kids learn about how to have relationships when they grow up?)

And I'm not some weird person who had a perfect mate and a perfect married life. I'm 60, we were married 18 years, and had many of the problems other marriages have. It would never have occurred to Michael to threaten me; it would never have occurred to me to 'act out' to him in a way that might elicit such a response! I'm truly baffled by advice to threaten your woman to get her to behave!!

Anonymous Deplorable Jack Amok September 18, 2016 1:19 AM  

The ultimate "shit-test" is God's judgment

Well, Poundfoolish, seems He's not too damn happy with us these days.

Also, you're a fucking disgrace. I don't know if you're a man or a woman (or an undecided), but whatever you are, you're not very good at it.

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable September 18, 2016 7:20 AM  

F. Brown wrote:Up thread some people mentioned that walking is a bad idea if a woman is throwing a fit. Why is that? Unfortunately, this is all still very foreign to me, having grown up in a household of 5 women and no real male influence.

Pretend that you're a Hollywood bigshot, and you're writing a screenplay for yourself. How does walking out affect her, and how does she react to it? Regardless of your intention, it affects her like you giving up, and she reacts with fury.

I hope that heuristic helps.

Blogger SarahsDaughter September 18, 2016 9:21 AM  

"If a woman has to "act up" to a level that elicits such a put-down to get her view or want or need discussed or considered, then there's a LOT more wrong than merely her lack of respect!"

The linked article is talking about the rage of women over minor disagreements or issues - not legitimate views/wants/needs. See the comment above about hand towels. Regardless, there isn't "a lot more wrong" than lack of respect. It all stems from a lack of respect. Thinking there is more to it than that is to deny what "respect" actually means.

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