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Thursday, September 22, 2016

Surviving the mob

Peter Grant, formerly a soldier in South Africa, knows whereof he speaks. I suggest it would behoove most Americans to heed his advice these days.
There are some important lessons to be learned.  Firstly, a vehicle isn't going to help when the streets are clogged.  You can't drive over dozens of protestors.  If nothing else, their bodies will immobilize your vehicle, just as surely as if it became high-centered over a bump.  What's more, as soon as you're forced to slow down or stop, you're going to get dragged from your vehicle by angry rioters.  That may not be survivable.  Much rather use your vehicle to avoid getting into that mess in the first place . . . but you may not have a choice.  You may turn a corner in a city center to find the mob coming to meet you, with no time or space to avoid them.  If you're on an interstate highway, the on- and off-ramps may be blocked by rioters and/or vehicles with nowhere to go, leaving you stranded with a mob coming towards you, looting every vehicle they pass.  This is what I-85 looked like in Charlotte on Tuesday evening.

Rioters looted stalled trucks of their cargoes, taking what they wanted and torching the rest.  Hundreds of vehicles backed up behind the scene of the crime.  If yours was among them, what would you do?  Many of those present abandoned their vehicles and fled on foot.  That's all well and good, if they had the space and time to do so . . . but what if they didn't?  What if the rioters swarmed their vehicle before they could get out?  What if they, or a member of their party, had limited mobility and couldn't escape and evade fast enough?

In such a situation, resistance may be your only option.  Make sure you have a firearm handy, plus enough ammunition to defend yourself and your loved ones.  That may be difficult.  It's an unpalatable, raw, brutal fact that you may not be able to offer enough resistance to save yourself in such a situation.  If there are a couple of dozen rioters within feet of you, you probably can't shoot fast enough to get them all.  Distance is your friend.  Even if you use a firearm successfully to defend yourself, whilst that may solve Problem One (immediate survival), it's likely to land you neck-deep in Problem Two.  The aftermath of such a riot is likely to see political and social leaders screaming for a scapegoat.  If you shoot a few rioters, guess what?  You're probably it.

You're just about certain to be arrested and charged with all sorts of crimes, even if all you were doing is trying to save your life and the lives of your loved ones.  You may find it very difficult to defeat the charges in court, particularly if witnesses are scarce (or intimidated), and video footage of your activities (from nearby security cameras, hovering helicopters, etc.) is deliberately edited to portray your actions in the worst possible light.  Think that won't happen?  You're naive.

You need to have a plan, at the first sign of such troubles, to get away from the riots before they get out of control.  Make arrangements with family and friends, have bug-out bags and vehicles and plans in place (including sufficient fuel to get out of trouble without having to stop at a gas station, because they'll be magnets for looters).  Don't wait until it's too late.  Far better to get clear of potential trouble, then return if the trouble doesn't materialize, rather than wait until you're sure there's trouble, but not leave yourself enough space and time to get away from it.

That's likely to be difficult once riots become established.  A standard police tactic is to isolate the violence, establishing a perimeter to prevent it spreading.  Police will wait at that perimeter until they can see the unrest ebbing, then move inward once again to re-establish control.  That works for them, and helps to minimize casualties caused by them (and the political fallout from such casualties) . . . but it won't help you if you're trapped inside that perimeter.  The rioters will be all around you, and you won't be able to avoid them.  That's not a good place to be.  Get to the perimeter if at all possible, and seek police protection.  If you can't, you'll have no alternative but to hunker down in place and ride out the storm.

If you suspect you may find yourself in that situation, your location should be prepared in advance to resist that sort of problem.  Make sure rioters can't easily break in and get at you.  Use obstructions (plants, flower boxes, whatever) to make it difficult to approach windows;  put stout burglar bars on windows and security gates on doors, and fortify them if possible with whatever's available;  have weapons handy, and make sure that all adults and older children know how to use them.  Keep rioters outside, if possible at a distance, so they can't get their hands on you or your weapons.  If they do, your resistance is over, right there - and I don't have to tell you what your loved ones are likely to go through under such circumstances.

That's why the best possible solution is to get clear of the trouble and stay away from it until it's died down.
Or to put it more briefly, John Derbyshire was right.

Peter is right about how easy it is to be taken by surprise, though. We were in Rome walking through the streets in a nearly empty quarter one day when we heard a dull roar. It was hard to tell what it was, or exactly from what direction it was coming. I was curious, since it could have been anything from immigrants to ultras, so my friend and I had the women and children stay back while we went to see what was going on. It kept getting louder, but there was nothing to see until we turned a corner to encounter a large mass of several hundred dark-skinned people who looked like Bangladeshis or Sri Lankans. They were loudly demonstrating against deportations or the lack of work permits or something,, and while it wasn't even remotely dangerous, I won't forget the shock of suddenly encountering such a loud and overpowering mass of humanity without much in the way of warning besides that dull roar.

And I can attest that having a handgun wouldn't have accomplished a damn thing. Frankly, a belt-fed .50 caliber might not have been enough without a minefield. If I heard that sound these days, I'd do my best to figure out where it was coming from, then move quickly the opposite way. And if I couldn't tell, I'd start backtracking. Fast.

Regardless, the key to successfully surviving everything from a one-on-one fight to a mob scene is lateral movement. You not only don't want to be where they are, you don't want to be where they are going.

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Blogger Brian S September 22, 2016 1:09 PM  

Know the alternative routes to get home, and keep at least 1/2 a tank of gas in your vehicle at all times.

Blogger Lovekraft September 22, 2016 1:10 PM  

While a few of ours will be trapped inside the beast's maw, most of us will be observing and waiting, for the beast lashes out blindly and lacks focus.

The alt-right represents the early man who had to face the beast with his wits and strength and to this day retain that outlook.

Strategy and patience will defeat the many.

Anonymous Gedrin September 22, 2016 1:12 PM  

Timely for me, driving home to Charlotte in 2 hours.

Blogger Rick67 September 22, 2016 1:18 PM  

I don't have your level of computer and social media kung fu... but Twitter simply won't let me post a link to this. Something about "might be spam". Tried a few different ways, no success. Not even just the naked link with no comments.

Blogger Azimus September 22, 2016 1:18 PM  

I've never been there so I don't know, but I get the feeling that mobs of unopposed looters are not the same as beating back the Walking Dead with a wall of lead. This footage stands out in my mind when considering shooting in a crowd:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvvI1th5dkM

Admittedly the gunfire was a complete surprise at this venue, it was some kind of Mother's Day parade in NOLA. But look at how quickly they scattered to the four winds at the unexpected gunshot. Weren't individual Koreans able to defend their shops with shotguns/AK's during the LA riots? I'm no expert on crowd psychology, but aren't most of the people just in it for what they can steal/the glory of the moment?

OpenID paworldandtimes September 22, 2016 1:23 PM  

But look at how quickly they scattered to the four winds at the unexpected gunshot.

Yes, typical dindu riots are merry-making. They have no heart or reason to hang around when they gear gunfire.

PA

Blogger dc.sunsets September 22, 2016 1:24 PM  

My question to anyone who's actually been there: Does gunfire in a mob scene cause people to scatter or double-down? My assumption has always been that this is a mob, not a highly-trained, cohesive military unit. I believe(d) that even a man with a Ruger 10/22 and 25-rd mags could, if the zombies are out of "rushing" range, scatter them just by laying down fire at leg level. Of course doing so from cover would be essential.

The problem multiplies after dark; the recent nighttime "riot" on an Interstate puts you in a place with poor visibility, in a melee where adversaries are behind you, and without cover. I figure a small, well-armed squad might do okay in a box facing out, but an individual, especially with family in tow, might be cooked meat even if fielding with a Glock 18.

Anonymous BGKB September 22, 2016 1:27 PM  

the key to successfully surviving everything from a one-on-one fight to a mob scene is lateral movement

I have seen "move perpendicular to mobs" several places. There is also a concept called "lines of drift" that predicts how people will travel.

They have no heart or reason to hang around when they gear gunfire.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3801796/He-allowed-drive-away-alive-White-motorist-armed-GUN-filmed-driving-slowly-crowd-protesters-Charlotte.html

Rome walking through the streets in a nearly quarter

What is a nearly quarter? I have not been to Rome since the 90s, but would like to go back after the 3rd world is purged from the 1st.

Blogger jandolin September 22, 2016 1:30 PM  

The community organizer and agitator has fundamentally transformed America. Obamerica is a country where multi-millionaire black football players display contempt for their fans and the black underclass feels it is justifiable to riot when a black police officer shoots a black with a gun.

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus September 22, 2016 1:30 PM  

Frankly, the only time you seriously want to engage a mob using firearms is when you have an organised neighbourhood militia (and who has those anymore?) and plenty of cover and fallback room. Even then, you only do it because you have nowhere else to go or some other extenuating circumstance that makes abandoning the neighbourhood unfeasible.

Anonymous ZhukovG September 22, 2016 1:30 PM  

When you fire at a mob, yes, they will likely scatter. But your problems begin after your arrest for assaulting 'good boys on their way to church'.

Blogger horsewithnonick September 22, 2016 1:32 PM  

I am encouraged by the quiet in Tulsa - but I am still making plans for when even my quiet little neck of the woods is unsafe.

Anonymous Casey September 22, 2016 1:33 PM  

It's all in the technique. You don't just rool over those blocking the road. You send their ass a'winding. About 35-40 mph is enough to keep them from wadding up under your wheels. Typically, if done correctly you'll only have to plow through one bunch. The others will get the fuck out of the way after thyey see that you're serious.

The following video shows both the proper and the improper way to go jiggaboo bowling with a vehicle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2pCgepCbm4

Anonymous deplorable six pan September 22, 2016 1:34 PM  

North Carolina used to be the home of "Nip it in the bud, Andy." There's some great footage on YouTube of the big commie massacree of 1979, always good for a grin and especially at such times ad these.

As Ol' Remus says, avoid crowds.

Anonymous Sam the Man September 22, 2016 1:34 PM  

Was in a riot At Penn state in the fall of 1997. saw as a small force of police kept us out of the stadium where an effort was going to be made to pull down the goalpost.

Key to their maintaining order was to stop the momentum of the crowd, which the wire fence achieved, Once stopped, by directing their night sticks on any fool who attempted to scale it, they were able to keep us out. The key was to go after the first chap to attempt to jump it, the rest held back (me included).

I once saw a similar thing at a near riot at a township meeting in 1989. 4 police kept over 1000 folks from rioting, as every knew the first chap over the 3 foot wall would get a beat down, so no one did it though we did throw a lot of budgets at the township supervisors.

Same thing applies to your house, you have to stop their momentum and limit the ingress points. problems is if you piss them off too much they might firebomb you. So getting out is likely the best course of action.

Blogger RonB September 22, 2016 1:36 PM  

This is what can happen to you in a crowd: -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhfgQOLSrTQ

Blogger dc.sunsets September 22, 2016 1:38 PM  

One man's way to pass through a mob scene.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3801796/He-allowed-drive-away-alive-White-motorist-armed-GUN-filmed-driving-slowly-crowd-protesters-Charlotte.html

UK writers get their panties in a bunch, but the best-rated comments are pure Alt-Right.

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus September 22, 2016 1:39 PM  

It's all in the technique. You don't just rool over those blocking the road. You send their ass a'winding. About 35-40 mph is enough to keep them from wadding up under your wheels. Typically, if done correctly you'll only have to plow through one bunch. The others will get the fuck out of the way after thyey see that you're serious.

Truth. Like it or not, there may be a time where you get caught in the mob and Mr. Grant's advice against using your car as a weapon would be, itself, inadvisable or impossible.

In such a case, be smart. Don't go trying to plow straight through the centre of the mob. That IS a good way to get hung up. Instead, gun it and go for the edges where there is lower density - just make sure not to hit a light pole or a mailbox, etc.

It's about momentum. When you're in a car and moving at 35-40 mph, you have a lot of it. BUT, every time you hit an...obstacle...you lose momentum equivalent to your total mass (car+you) multiplied by the mass of the...obstacle. If you keep gunning it, you can regain some momentum, but nevertheless, having to only hit 10...obstacles...is better than trying to run down 100.

Blogger JWM September 22, 2016 1:41 PM  

These are not riots; they are insurrections. And I doubt there is anything spontaneous about them. The BLM plans are in place waiting for the precipitating incident. My guess is that we will see every city explode in the wake of a Trump victory in November. Will whites do the same in the wake of massive election fraud leading to Hillary as POTUS? Time will tell.

JWM

Anonymous Michael September 22, 2016 1:42 PM  

Guns aren't as useless as he makes them sound. Once you start shooting, most of the orcs will start running. But it's best to stay out of that situation to begin with. Your security must be multi layered.

Blogger dc.sunsets September 22, 2016 1:42 PM  

Makes me think there may be a future where having some Underwood ammo loaded with Lehigh extreme penetrators may be a good idea, regardless of caliber.

Anonymous Net Working It September 22, 2016 1:47 PM  

At our last meeting, attended by around 40 people, we discussed the future of the European peoples and how to deal with SJWs, on the basis of Vox Day’s book SJWs Always Lie. We more generally want to create a new culture which promotes a healthy lifestyle and strong communities for our people.

Tom Sunic at TOO

Anonymous gxg September 22, 2016 1:48 PM  

Charlotte Violence Sparks Gun-Buying Spree
A good reminder to do your shopping before shit hits the fan.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/charlotte-violence-sparks-self-defense-gun-buying-spree/article/2602559

Blogger Cogitans Iuvenis September 22, 2016 1:53 PM  

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Blogger Cogitans Iuvenis September 22, 2016 1:54 PM  

I think the answer as to whether the mob doubles down or not is entirely due to the temperament of the mob and who it comprises of. Do they just want to cause a ruckus and steal stuff or are they out for blood? Are they just inner city welfare types or are they Islamists?

Too many variables in my mind which means the first option of GTFO remains the best.

Blogger O Canastrão September 22, 2016 1:54 PM  

I think that it is likely that the mob starts running away from you once you fire the first shots from your handgun. With a .50 caliber it would be a no brainer - everybody would just run the fuck away once you drop the first dozen bodies. Anyway, without question, best advice is to anticipate and stay way.

Blogger bob k. mando ( the hardest troll here ) September 22, 2016 1:55 PM  

VD
Regardless, the key to successfully surviving everything from a one-on-one fight to a mob scene is lateral movement. You not only don't want to be where they are, you don't want to be where they are going.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BWnTW4rL0U&t=3m24s

Anonymous Mrs. Ramsey September 22, 2016 1:55 PM  

Back when BLM was just beginning, we lived in a part of town where we were the only white family in the neighborhood. We left when they were rioting and they literally swarmed the freeway minutes after we left. We very soon moved and rented a house in a better part of town.

I had to laugh one time, when I was listening to NPR talk about cops targeting black people for the tiniest infractions when right in front of me a black woman drove past a cop with her toddler on her lap. If I did that in my current (white) neighborhood it would be front page news.

Blogger praetorian September 22, 2016 1:56 PM  

@16

Modified version of my comment posted to the wrong thread:

The tension immediately went up and people started mobbing his vehicle, sheboons started shrieking for the pack to attack, etc. It didn't clear the road and probably made the situation worse.

I'm not sure drawing a firearm for show in these situations is a net positive. It seems like you need to be at least willing to fire a warning shot to scatter the crowd.

Rule 0 being, of course, don't be in situations like this.

Anonymous Kali i ka da September 22, 2016 1:57 PM  

"Minefields" You are priceless VD.

Actually those German WWII half tracks come to mind.

Blogger Dire Badger September 22, 2016 1:58 PM  

@4- Have you tried a redirect, like tinyurl?

Blogger Zundfolge September 22, 2016 2:00 PM  

I understand that this is not the most practical solution for many folk, but if you can, move away from any large black population centers now. Before there are riots.

Blogger Salt September 22, 2016 2:03 PM  

Firstly, a vehicle isn't going to help when the streets are clogged. You can't drive over dozens of protestors.

Snow-plow comes in handy.

Blogger pdwalker September 22, 2016 2:04 PM  

Mobs. See FMFRP 12-80 by Col Rex Applegate, starting from page 363.

It's a good book overall to have for your reference bookshelf.

Blogger Noah B September 22, 2016 2:06 PM  

Hard to get much better than .223 for dealing with masses of un-armored people. Lots of power in a light cartridge. Spend a little extra $$ and get soft points.

Peter is absolutely right about the likelihood of facing legal difficulties for using deadly force against a mob of rampaging dindus. However, constantly carrying around this mindset is going to make you more afraid of defending yourself than you should be, resulting in hesitation that could easily get you killed. The first step is to survive the encounter! If you're lucky enough to get away, you improve your odds of coming through the "justice" system greatly if your first step is to contact a good lawyer rather than police. Always a good idea to have a criminal defense attorney in mind and carry their contact information with you, too.

Blogger Rick67 September 22, 2016 2:08 PM  

@30 - That did it. Thanks!

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus September 22, 2016 2:09 PM  

Peter is absolutely right about the likelihood of facing legal difficulties for using deadly force against a mob of rampaging dindus.

Honestly, it may be time for whites to step up to the plate and let the police know that making arrests in such a situation would be bad for their future health. Don't make threats, just remind them that the community that currently supports them can stop doing so if it perceives that they are no longer on that community's side.

Blogger Sam Lively September 22, 2016 2:09 PM  

War of the Worlds had a pretty good scene tackling this dilemma. IIRC, Tom Cruise is forced to abandon his car and fire a warning shot to secure a retreat for his family.

The recent movie No Escape explored the family caught in massive race riot angle in more depth but it cheated by introducing a CIA assassin as a deus ex machina.

It seems like the recent rioters aren't too keen on piling up the fatalities or becoming fatalities themselves, so I don't think Grant's fear of not having enough time to shoot everybody or getting Zimmerman'd is relevant. Just brandishing a gun should be enough to get a group of thugs and looters to move on to the next target and give the family time to evacuate on foot if there's no room to drive.

Anonymous BluePony September 22, 2016 2:15 PM  

During the Los Angeles riots in 1992, some friends and I hit upon an escape kit.

Brown stage makeup, a black bandanna (avoid local gang colors) and a black hoodie. Apply makeup to face, wear bandanna over face and hood up. That's what they all do anyway. The trick is to get the stage makeup application down pat if time is of the essence.

Of course the kit also includes a semiauto pistol, extra magazines, and an aluminum baseball bat.

In all the chaos, especially at night when these things really get going, you could appear vibrant enough to get out of the hot zone. Keep gun under hoodie for dire emergencies, and wave the bat around in a diverse manner as you run.

Blogger Noah B September 22, 2016 2:17 PM  

@37 Don't fire warning shots, especially in public places. Firing a warning shot makes a criminal negligence prosecution a slam dunk. It also could easily be used to portray you as the aggressor and the mob as defending itself from you.

Blogger Amy September 22, 2016 2:18 PM  

@37 true, but it saddens me. I don't automatically love all cops. I knew a few too many, one in particular who became the worst version of himself, and his friends who were mostly bad despite a redeeming point here and there. But I also know many who don't let "cop" be their definition, who want to go home and love wives and raise kids. Nice guys who, until I asked or they offered or others told me, I would never have known were cops.

But still, I have family members against whom dividing lines will have to be drawn. Drawing them against cops will not be a problem, even though it will be a pain in the short term, it will force family and friends to declare. I hate that necessity, but accept it.

Anonymous DissidentRight September 22, 2016 2:19 PM  

Honestly, it may be time for whites to step up to the plate and let the police know that making arrests in such a situation would be bad for their future health.

If not now, when?

Blogger CarpeOro September 22, 2016 2:20 PM  

If I recall correctly, Korean shop owners protected their property during the LA rampage following the Rodney King verdict. There were a number of them with automatic weapons, standing on the roofs of their stores. The barbarians avoided them. Akin to the idea of militia, a number of neighbors with guns can cause the rioters to steer to weaker targets.

Anonymous BluePony September 22, 2016 2:20 PM  

"Snow-plow comes in handy."

Soylent Green. Bucket detain.

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus September 22, 2016 2:21 PM  

There were a number of them with automatic weapons, standing on the roofs of their stores. The barbarians avoided them. Akin to the idea of militia, a number of neighbors with guns can cause the rioters to steer to weaker targets.

Exactly. ORGANISED armed resistance contains many force multiplies that go beyond mere numbers.

Blogger VD September 22, 2016 2:21 PM  

Just brandishing a gun should be enough to get a group of thugs and looters to move on to the next target and give the family time to evacuate on foot if there's no room to drive.

Didn't work in Ireland, as two British corporals learned to their detriment.

OpenID paworldandtimes September 22, 2016 2:21 PM  

There was a story in DC a few years ago of a group of Dindus knocking a skinny gay guy off his bicycle. He reached into his backpack for his cell phone to call the police. As reported, Dindus thought he's reaching for a gun and ran away.

I described the three Types or levels of protests on my blog, in a post titled "Welcome to Hell, Stray Lambs." Type 3 would be one in which the protesters might be undeterred by small arms fire.

PA

Blogger ws1835 September 22, 2016 2:24 PM  

@ 31

"I understand that this is not the most practical solution for many folk, but if you can, move away from any large black population centers now. Before there are riots."

Absolutely the best advice. If ya don't want fleas, don't hang around dogs....

Blogger J Van Stry September 22, 2016 2:24 PM  

And this is the new normal for the USA. Meanwhile I see the usual idiots screaming about white supremacy and racism, while blacks and muslims are murdering whites left and right.
My country is dead.

Anonymous Pole Lick September 22, 2016 2:25 PM  

http://verysmartbrothas.com/the-wash-rinse-and-repeat-black-america/

One day, probably sooner than later, the police are going to murder the wrong person's family member. That person is going to exact their own justice. And that's going to be the new way of getting justice.

They think we are just going to protest. And they are very happy to sit back and watch us burn our own communities. Unfortunately for them I think the word is out about destroying our own stuff. I think that, for the most part, is a thing of the past.

We've already seen at least two occasions when Black folks decided to get justice outside of a courtroom by going after police. Once this becomes the norm they are going to wish they had listened to our peaceful protests.

Peaceful protests are going to seem like the good old days.

Blogger Noah B September 22, 2016 2:25 PM  

Look at the situation in dc.sunsets' post in @16. Suppose, in that scenario, one of the armed insurgents had seen the driver brandishing the pistol and just shot him. Even though we all know that the mob has a mind of its own, and this was a guy just trying to make his way though safely, shooting that driver could easily be seen as justifiable under current law.

Anonymous AzDesertRat September 22, 2016 2:26 PM  

I watched a couple of anti-American riots unfold while living in South Korea, about 13 years back. Similar experiences to what VD stated. Older cities with tighter streets can be problematic in locating where a riot is occuring and avoiding it. I learned pretty quick to keep an eye on the local shopkeepers. For whatever reason they had an amazing word of mouth intelligence network. The minute they heard something was planned the steel shutters would start coming down.

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus September 22, 2016 2:28 PM  

@ 49 We've already seen at least two occasions when Black folks decided to get justice outside of a courtroom by going after police. Once this becomes the norm they are going to wish they had listened to our peaceful protests.

Problem is, if you start trying to carry your "non-peaceful protests" outside your own neighbourhoods and into the 'burbs and the country, you will meet more armed, organised white resistance than you ever dreamed possible.

Blogger VD September 22, 2016 2:29 PM  

For whatever reason they had an amazing word of mouth intelligence network. The minute they heard something was planned the steel shutters would start coming down.

Yeah, in retrospect, that may have been why the streets in that quarter were so empty.

Blogger Noah B September 22, 2016 2:30 PM  

@49 The obvious police response would be to stop investigating the killings of blacks.

Blogger VD September 22, 2016 2:31 PM  

Peaceful protests are going to seem like the good old days.

I don't think you quite realize where you're commenting.

Blogger praetorian September 22, 2016 2:32 PM  

If I recall correctly, Korean shop owners protected their property during the LA rampage following the Rodney King verdict. There were a number of them with automatic weapons, standing on the roofs of their stores. The barbarians avoided them.

That's a far different situation than being trapped in a sitting position, surrounded.

Brandishing a gun from a low position does not disperse agitated, swarming negros (or Irish) reliably and may escalate the situation fatally, as we have video evidence of. That's not an argument against having a gun for when it goes Reginald Denny, it's an argument against a particular tactic with that gun.

Standing on a porch with a shotgun or a rooftop with a rifle is a different situation. We have strong evidence that this does work well.

Automobiles are just a tough spot to get caught.

Blogger the bandit September 22, 2016 2:32 PM  

@26 Prometheus School of Running Away from Things immediately popped into my mind, too.

Blogger SouthRon September 22, 2016 2:33 PM  

@32 I'm seeing a market opportunity for auto and truck cowcatchers.

Blogger SamuraiJack September 22, 2016 2:35 PM  

Nobody seems to want to live by/interact with the dindus. I am looking for a new house and I wont even consider it without knocking on the neighbors doors to find out who lives there. Sad!

Blogger Dexter September 22, 2016 2:37 PM  

This is relevant:

http://www.secondcalldefense.org/riots-and-mobs

Especially:

"If you do choose to use a firearm, be very careful. It's easy to lose a gun in a crowd. Learn how to make an inconspicuous draw, conceal your weapon in hand, and shoot from the retention position. Also beware that the police may have posted snipers who could shoot you if they see you have a gun. As bad as it may sound, police often won't differentiate between a criminal and a legally armed citizen trying to protect himself in a situation like this. Everyone who is in the riot is thought of as a criminal. "Criminals" shooting guns get shot by the police.

If you are in your car and are surrounded by rioting criminals, KEEP MOVING! Don't stop and allow them to open your doors or break your windows to drag you out. I wouldn't intentionally run someone over (unless that person posed a lethal force threat to me), but I wouldn't stop either. Pick a route (over the curb if necessary) and slowly drive through the crowd. Your car will likely be damaged, but you will be out of the mess soon."

Blogger ThirdMonkey September 22, 2016 2:43 PM  

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Blogger ThirdMonkey September 22, 2016 2:43 PM  

Warning shots are a bad idea. By firing on, you have just communicated that you don't have it in you to take another man's life. Run away as fast as you can, or stay and fight with all the violence that is in you. If you pull your gun, use it. You own everything that comes out of your barrel, don't waste it on a warning shot. Shoot a sinus right in the face in front of his boo and his bros, and suddenly everyone else has more important things to do somewhere else. Extreme, determined violence has a deterrent effect. Brandishing guns and warning shots don't.

Anonymous Psychedelic Cat Hair September 22, 2016 2:44 PM  

"Timely for me, driving home to Charlotte in 2 hours."

@3 Flying to a wedding in Houston tomorrow...one of the other groomsmen is supposed to fly out of Charlotte...wonder how that's gonna go.

"The following video shows both the proper and the improper way to go jiggaboo bowling with a vehicle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2pCgepCbm4"

@13 Benny Hill makes anything hilarious. Thank you!

"My guess is that we will see every city explode in the wake of a Trump victory in November."

@18 Wait until they start getting picked off by people who won't wait to see what they're "protesting" about whilst breaking into different residences...the media will have a field day.

"With a .50 caliber it would be a no brainer - everybody would just run the fuck away once you drop the first dozen bodies. "

@25 With a .50 some of those bodies would be cut in half like what happened during the Battle of Baghdad. Also, great screename!

"During the Los Angeles riots in 1992, some friends and I hit upon an escape kit.

Brown stage makeup, a black bandanna (avoid local gang colors) and a black hoodie. Apply makeup to face, wear bandanna over face and hood up. That's what they all do anyway. The trick is to get the stage makeup application down pat if time is of the essence.

Of course the kit also includes a semiauto pistol, extra magazines, and an aluminum baseball bat.

In all the chaos, especially at night when these things really get going, you could appear vibrant enough to get out of the hot zone. Keep gun under hoodie for dire emergencies, and wave the bat around in a diverse manner as you run. "

@38 I'll have to keep that in mind.

Blogger The Reactionary September 22, 2016 2:46 PM  

ROAD WAR

Blogger bob k. mando ( the hardest troll here ) September 22, 2016 2:49 PM  

52. Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus September 22, 2016 2:28 PM
Problem is,




*shhhhhhhh*

you'll scare them off.

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus September 22, 2016 2:51 PM  

@ 65 you'll scare them off.

I'll admit it. I laughed.

Blogger TheLiberatorOfBados September 22, 2016 2:52 PM  

I live in TN, and I've been spending the whole year gunning up. I'll have gun number 7 next week. Two shotguns, an AR, a .22, two handguns, and a break action 16 gauge because what the hell. And that's just going to be for this year. I live in a pretty white area, but I'm not blind to what could wind up happening here in the future. Better to be prepared, and to pass the guns around to my neighbors if need be. And I got a carry permit. What sucks is that even now having all of those guns still doesn't feel like enough, or having enough ammo.

Lots of vets around here, all the way back to Korea and even a few WWII vets. Anybody makes the mistake of acting out here won't live long enough to regret it.

Blogger James Dixon September 22, 2016 3:04 PM  

> You not only don't want to be where they are, you don't want to be where they are going.

Well, it helps a lot if you're never in either place to begin with. But then you know how both Nate and I feel on that subject.

> ...just remind them that the community that currently supports them can stop doing so if it perceives that they are no longer on that community's side.

Odds are it won't be the local community folks you have to worry about. You'll be prosecuted at the state and/or federal level.

Anonymous patrick kelly September 22, 2016 3:04 PM  

"Once this becomes the norm they are going to wish they had listened to our peaceful protests."

Yeah, about that, once the mob gets out of their safe space they'll find out just how much of a minority they really are.

Blogger Laramie Hirsch September 22, 2016 3:07 PM  

Thank you for posting this, Vox.

Blogger Happy Housewife September 22, 2016 3:09 PM  

@SamuraiJack that is the primary reason we're moving out of our neighborhood. Even though many of the blacks here are actually hard working folks who take pride in living in a nice neighborhood, their children and relatives and acquaintances ruin it. Trash litters the streets (we've seen a car full of them just roll down their windows and dump their McD bags on someone's lawn), bass thumps at all hours of the day, and groups of feral middle schoolers prowl the streets looking for something to steal or some lone white kid to bully. Not a place we want our kids to grow up in.

I will not rest easy until we're out, because if the SHTF before we do, we're in trouble. It doesn't matter how nicely dressed or friendly or well behaved they are, unless they are members of our church, they will never be on our side.

Anonymous Ironsides September 22, 2016 3:11 PM  

They have turned this country into a fucking shithole.

"If you're on an interstate highway, the on- and off-ramps may be blocked by rioters and/or vehicles with nowhere to go, leaving you stranded with a mob coming towards you, looting every vehicle they pass. This is what I-85 looked like in Charlotte on Tuesday evening."

What the hell is this, Mad Max?

Anonymous RabidRatel September 22, 2016 3:12 PM  

@27

Very good point about retaining your momentum in a vehicle.

In the mid-80's my brother was part of a company doing military patrols in Soweto. One of the drivers stopped because of a mob in front of him, and couldn't get away. This is in an armoured vehicle (Buffel) with a full armed squad on it. The only way to rescue them was to storm the crowd with the remainig vehicles.

Blogger Balázs Varga September 22, 2016 3:13 PM  

Times like this make me happy to live in a 99% white country. The last time there were migrants here, football hooligans formed a large mob and attacked them with stones. Ever since than my dislike for football hooligans have dissapared.

If you can not move to a safe area where only your own kind lives, than form a militia as you can like the wise Chinese.

Remember, if these dindus tried this in Russia, than they would be dead already. You just need to look to the wisdom of the east for help.

Anonymous TLM September 22, 2016 3:14 PM  

If I remember correctly the technique with a car is to have one person walk point armed at the front passenger tire side with the driver going slowly until you clear the mob. Two bank robbers did this vs. the LAPD and were unstoppable for a time, until the police overwhelmed them. But doing so requires two people in the vehicle and at least a truck gun like a Kel Tec Sub 2000.

Blogger Frank Gappa September 22, 2016 3:19 PM  

Actually one firearm can have a very big impact on a large crowd. As soon as you shoot one person or fire into the air a crowd like that will disperse. One thing the dindu is accustomed to is shots fired. The natural tendency for them is to run in the opposite direction. If you are trapped on a highway I would predict one shot would open the road like the parting of the red sea.

Blogger Sam Lively September 22, 2016 3:22 PM  

@45

From the video it looks like it did momentarily - they scattered and then re-swarmed after a few attackers showed they weren't rattled.

But I don't think the situations are analogous. BLM is fundamentally different than the IRA. The rioters are not ridding the homeland of invaders. The racial hatred is there, sure, but its not at homicidal pitch yet. The homicidal rage has been reserved for cops, and that's been the work of assassins, not angry crowds. The mobs have been all about torching property, beating on people and stealing stuff.

A random white driver is unlikely to face as tenacious opposition from an American black mob as those corporals did from an IRA crowd.

Blogger J A Baker September 22, 2016 3:22 PM  

Years ago I had a neighbor who was my senior by a generation. He had a lot of classic films on VHS and I would visit him and watch them with him from time to time. He introduced me to Spartacus, Soylent Green, They Live and countless westerns.

One film we watched together in particular that comes to mind in light of recent events is The Naked Prey.

A group of British soldiers are escorting a hunting party on an expedition when after a perceived insult to a local tribe they are taken captive.

Most of the entourage is tortured and killed in horrific ways, (I thought the man who was cooked alive in clay was especially horrific) but the main protagonist known as "Man" played by Cornel Wilde is given a chance to live if he can out run the tribes best hunters.

In the movie there are many implicit and explicit references to the hard reality of a world where law and order are absent and life becomes a constant struggle between predator and prey.

There are scenes of wild cats stalking prey and a small village gets over run by what I can only assume are a militant Muslim group. The villagers are either killed or enslaved.

Most of the film involves "Man" outrunning, outsmarting and out fighting his pursuers, until the end when he reaches his fort and his pursuers must retreat being outnumbered and outgunned by the soldiers.

At that point, "Man" has reached his limit, he is exhausted and can barely move; in a last effort he lifts him self up to a sitting position and looks back at his pursuers as they take cover in some thick bushes; he makes eye contact with their leader and they seem to nod and wave at each other.

My neighbor always thought that this gesture signified a mutual sign of respect between the two, as if the leader was saying good show or something along those lines.

I recently watched it again on Netflix; now I have a different interpretation of what passed between the two telepathically if you will, and it is this:

"Man" looked back and with a slight smile, a nod and a wave of his hand that said, "Now it's my turn to hunt you."

The leader understood and ran for his life.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 22, 2016 3:23 PM  

VD wrote:Didn't work in Ireland, as two British corporals learned to their detriment.
There are basic, genetic differences between Blacks and Whites. And Irish for that matter. You don't scare Irish by threatening violence. It just doesn't work. You may as well try to scare Germans by threatening a police state, or Italians by threatening political chaos.

Anonymous ben September 22, 2016 3:24 PM  

Best bet might be to fake like you are part of the group and just blend in. Will have to think fast to figure out what they are mad about do you can start shouting their slogans quickly, and make sure you seem angry.

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus September 22, 2016 3:25 PM  

@ 75 - Remember, if these dindus tried this in Russia, than they would be dead already. You just need to look to the wisdom of the east for help.

In Soviet Russia, mob runs over YOU!

Anonymous Deplorable S E Delenda September 22, 2016 3:26 PM  

@14.

"Was in a riot At Penn state in the fall of 1997. saw as a small force of police kept us out of the stadium where an effort was going to be made to pull down the goalpost."


Rick, a bunch of overwrought college kids trying to pull down goalposts isn't quite the same thing as paid thugs trying to pull down what's left of society.

I went to Penn State (before 97) and I remember all of the hooliganism and mischief, that was more prominent when I was there (and that was in the pre-85 booze crackdown).

Now if you want to compare it to the 89 Camp Hill correctional facility RIOT, that's more valid.

Blogger Aeoli Pera September 22, 2016 3:33 PM  

Related, No Nonsense Self Defense.

I also collected some good comments from a previous Vox Popoli thread about self-defense from political mobs into a blog post.

Blogger Zeroh Tollrants September 22, 2016 3:39 PM  

You know, keeping a ski mask and gloves, bandannas, etc. in your car might not be a dumb idea. At night, if you have to flee, it might but you some time and give you a pass if no white skin is showing.

Blogger Noah B September 22, 2016 3:40 PM  

@77 If you are trapped on a highway I would predict one shot would open the road like the parting of the red sea.

Almost exactly the opposite is true. People overwhelmingly ignore a single shot fired, largely because they doubt what it was they heard. Or as is possibly the case with vibrants, they've gotten used to hearing gunshots in urban areas and no longer find it too alarming.

Anonymous GreyS September 22, 2016 3:41 PM  

A lot of times it is completely avoidable, but people get curious and give in to that desire to see the action. Some of those get caught up in it. Look at the pics and video from Charlotte-- there are people cruising to see things.

Other times, like VD with his family you just walk into it accidentally, then hopefully you have a plan, and time and space to put that plan into action.

In Paris a few years ago, we came out of the theater at about 1am to find the streets closed off and lined with riot police and these big anti-riot vehicles. We heard noise from crowds a few blocks away but couldn't see anything or tell what it was all about, or even if it was a protest or an event or what. (This is before the recent Muslim attacks). If I was by myself I probably would have stupidly gone to look to see what was going on, but luckily I had female loved ones with me and that responsibility made my decision instantaneous-- get them out of there immediately. We went through the police lines and made our way to our hotel with no problem, though it was tense because we didn't know what was around each corner.

Anyway, the point is that I had that desire to go see what it was about because it felt adventurous in a foreign city etc, but if I was in some big city in the states I probably wouldn't have even considered going to see what it was about and if it was a city with a large black population in the area I wouldn't go there in the first place. There are many cities in Africa that are much safer than some black cities here.

Blogger Cogitans Iuvenis September 22, 2016 3:41 PM  

Ok, why are so many people theorizing what "Dindus" or "thugs" will do when you have someone who is ex-military who lived in a country with this sort of thing occurring regularly telling you EXACTLY what will happen.

Anyone banking on brandishing a gun, or firing a warning shot, will solve your problem is ignoring what more the more experienced are telling you.

Blogger Aeoli Pera September 22, 2016 3:42 PM  

BluePony wrote:"Snow-plow comes in handy."

Soylent Green. Bucket detain.



Life gives you sapiens, make sapien-ade.

Blogger Noah B September 22, 2016 3:44 PM  

Lots of excellent ideas here regarding disguises/concealment.

Anonymous Hezekiah Garrett September 22, 2016 3:44 PM  

@1 Half a tank of fuel at all times makes sense, but...

(to anyone who has an answer) what do you do about the damage done to your fuel system, especially your tank, ESPECIALLY if you eventually have to take it down lower than half.

Where the water, rust, and gunk live. How do you mitigate that?

Anonymous Bukulu September 22, 2016 3:47 PM  

"I'll have gun number 7 next week. "

Piker!

But you're right, there's never enough ammo! Or training... how are you with that?

Anonymous Ironsides September 22, 2016 3:47 PM  

Noah B wrote:Lots of excellent ideas here regarding disguises/concealment.

Just be sure your disguise can be gotten rid of in a hurry when you encounter armed police, or armed citizens for that matter.

That's the problem with the brown stage makeup -- damned hard to get rid of fast when you reach less riotous climes.

Blogger Brian S September 22, 2016 3:54 PM  

@Hezekiah Garrett... not entirely sure I understand the question, but if you want to prevent corrosion to the exposed side of a fuel tank, you could spray it with a bed-liner material (or something similar) I guess

Anonymous Hezekiah Garrett September 22, 2016 3:54 PM  

@12

isnt it ironic that a black cop shoots an armed black man in Charlotte, RIOTS. A white lady shoots an UNarmed black man in Tulsa, peaceful protest, at most.

Why?

Blogger Zeroh Tollrants September 22, 2016 3:54 PM  

My ex was working in Atlanta when the Reginald Denny event occurred. He got jumped at a traffic light by 5 dins. Luckily for him, he had 3 guns in the cab of the truck and while they were busy smashing his windows and chimping out on his hood, he managed to get one in each hand, fired off a round thru the window, and haul ass outta there. Be armed, well armed.
I'm staying here in the suburbs and if it gets worse, I'm going to my family in Alabama. 25 acres on the river, 30 miles from a town, to hunker down. You don't want to hunt rednecks in the boonies.Ever.

Blogger Noah B September 22, 2016 3:56 PM  

@92 I've never used stage makeup, but you can quickly remove camouflage face paint with Gojo or, if you want to get fancy, Pond's Cold Cream.

Blogger Noah B September 22, 2016 3:59 PM  

This latex face mask is probably too elaborate, bulky, visibility constraining, and hot to be practical but I thought I'd throw this out there too.

Blogger Teri September 22, 2016 3:59 PM  

Have you read this story about the LA Riots?

http://www.seraphicpress.com/jew-without-a-gun-2/

I don't remember how I stumbled across it, but it seemed instructive.

Blogger N Matheson September 22, 2016 3:59 PM  

Never a bad time to post this one man vs MOB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCpi0AbItWw
(comments are interesting)

Bring up two things, 1: most people can't find a little skill and alot of aggression go along way. 2: less related but you are on your own, everyone except white people gets on "their" team when the shit goes down.
The Anzacs and British in Malaya modified the point man's weapon to make as much noise as possible to suppress enemy in sudden contacts. I am not sure how you could do thin in an American legal framework,but if possible it might help against mobs.

Good luck guys get armed get trained, organise and maybe take Jack Donovan's advice and form tribes.

Blogger J A Baker September 22, 2016 4:02 PM  

@88 Aeoli Pera,

I clicked on that link, and I kid you not a Leslie Jones Allstate add played before the video.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 22, 2016 4:04 PM  

Hezekiah Garrett wrote:Where the water, rust, and gunk live. How do you mitigate that?
Gas tanks haven't been made of steel in 20 years. Modern (post 1986) fuel systems do not accumulate water via condensation. At least in my state, and I assume in most others, gas station, tank farm and refinery storage systems are regularly checked for leaks and the presence of water. And finally the ethanol present in gas as an additive to prevent good performance, I mean to prevent nitrous and nitride formation, dissolves the water and works it through the engine.

Seriously, there's no concern about keeping your tank half full in your car was made after 1990 or so.

Blogger hank.jim September 22, 2016 4:06 PM  

Never show your gun unless you will use it immediately. Hide from the mob. Use your own car. Avoid public transportation and public sites. Long term, move away from Blacks and Muslims.

Anonymous GreyS September 22, 2016 4:08 PM  

I would like to know from Peter Grant or any SA here-- if that in SA the press fomented violence like they do here? Or if protesters were brought into areas in order to create violent riots?

Blogger tz September 22, 2016 4:09 PM  

@88 I can only think of the new brush guard on my new Truck, helps give me confidence cruising the open range. Deer and lighter will just bounce off. It depends on how dense the herd is.

Guns might not work even if you have extra clips, but a 6W blue laser will tend to make them not see me or anything else - ever.

There's always the flamethrower...

Though the closest place it might happen is Denver (please, please!) and I'm not likely to take a route through there.

Anonymous GreyS September 22, 2016 4:17 PM  

@91

Piker!

Ha-- How old are you? I learned that word from a buddy thirty years ago but I've never met anyone else who uses it. Every once in a while I will use it and my friends always go "Huh?"

Anonymous Casey September 22, 2016 4:21 PM  

The only positive from all of the current "activism" is, a lot of liberals who turn out to protest are going to end up getting a lot of white guilt beaten out of them when they do.

Some white woman thinks, "Hey!,..I know!. I'm gonna go down to the ghetto and join in on the black lives matter protests!"

Next day she's laying on the couch with a steak on her eye and an ice pack on her pussy, thinking, "How did *that* happen?"

Blogger Jeff September 22, 2016 4:21 PM  

The movie "Birth of a Nation" is coming out in a couple of weeks. I am concerned it will just add additional "emotion" to the current unrest. I suggest avoiding theaters where this is playing, especially in urban areas.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4196450/?ref_=cs_ov_tt

Blogger James Dixon September 22, 2016 4:23 PM  

> Ha-- How old are you?

You must have missed the vocabulary test results threads here. :)

Blogger CarpeOro September 22, 2016 4:25 PM  

@56

Kind of the reason I specifically mentioned:
1) geography
2) numbers

If I thought the single man with a gun was viable in ANY way, I'd not have bothered with my post. He got through, but I suspect his size and attitude in addition to the gun and car made the difference. Hyenas have a sense for finding the irresolute out as targets, even if armed.

Anonymous genericviews September 22, 2016 4:38 PM  

Phased plasma rifle in the 40-watt range...

Blogger dc.sunsets September 22, 2016 4:43 PM  

My @16 comment is, I agree, the wrong way to do it.

According to "The Law of Self-Defense," pretty much all the states will prosecute you for brandishing a gun. For all practical purposes, legally, you can't show it unless you are justified in shooting (in which case you should be shooting, of course.) I think Montana or WY is the exception or among the very few of them.

I do find it fascinating that people who are highly thoughtful (and prepared) for Really Bad Stuff never seem to be the ones in the wrong place at the wrong time. Perhaps the "Don't Go Stupid Places" admonition is automatic with those of us who think through these things.

This is why, when Bad Stuff Happens to other people, I often find ZERO lessons to be learned. They were doing things I wouldn't do if I was blind drunk.

Anonymous BGKB September 22, 2016 4:55 PM  

We've already seen at least two occasions when Black folks decided to get justice outside of a courtroom by going after police.

Yep 19 cops shot in Baton Rouge and Dallas when 2 child sex predators with guns where killed.

Related, No Nonsense Self Defense. The account is suspended in just one hour they must have been real race realist.

Blogger ThirdMonkey September 22, 2016 5:07 PM  

@ Hezekiah Garrett There was a riot in Tulsa in the 1920s. The most prosperous black neighborhood in the US was reduced to a pile of ashes. They probably figure it's not a winning proposition.

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Blogger Doktor Jeep September 22, 2016 5:27 PM  

Here you can see why the same people funding this mob of savages are also the same people trying to get high-capacity magazines banned, why the so-called "assault weapon" accounts for a tiny fraction of crimes yet is the biggest target of gun control.

Because that single-shot .22 that you had to get a license and wait 6 months for, with the ammunition in a separate and locked container in the trunk, is not going to be any kind of counter to THEIR mobs.

Yes, THEIR mobs, THEIR gun control. It all fits together.

Blogger Noah B September 22, 2016 5:38 PM  

@111 I figured that was basically your position, and though I wouldn't advocate brandishing a gun either, it shouldn't be overlooked that it did work in that instance in @16.

Blogger Sam Lively September 22, 2016 5:44 PM  

@87

South Africa is a massively different situation than America. Different rules apply.

Blogger Noah B September 22, 2016 5:45 PM  

@94 There's a longstanding pattern of the (((media))) heavily covering the justifiable shootings, inciting black discontent in the process, while largely ignoring the unjustified shootings. The (((media))) thrives by creating conflict and damn the social consequences. Now that the officer in Tulsa has been charged with what seem like appropriate charges I expect that story to fade away quickly.

Anonymous RabidRatel September 22, 2016 5:46 PM  

GreyS wrote:I would like to know from Peter Grant or any SA here-- if that in SA the press fomented violence like they do here? Or if protesters were brought into areas in order to create violent riots?

GreyS, at the moment we have student unrest, Labor unrest and service delivery protests across the country. This unrest is the same violence that USA is experiencing, and yes, it is organized and financed, but they try to make it look spontaneous. I had to change my route from work a couple of times to miss this rioting. It is actually worse than during apartheid

Blogger John Williams September 22, 2016 5:46 PM  

Brown stage makeup, a black bandanna (avoid local gang colors) and a black hoodie.
Knew a guy who worked in Iran before the Shah fell. He carried a can of brown shoe polish for such situations.

Anonymous Ironsides September 22, 2016 5:47 PM  

Doktor Jeep wrote:Here you can see why the same people funding this mob of savages are also the same people trying to get high-capacity magazines banned, why the so-called "assault weapon" accounts for a tiny fraction of crimes yet is the biggest target of gun control.

Because that single-shot .22 that you had to get a license and wait 6 months for, with the ammunition in a separate and locked container in the trunk, is not going to be any kind of counter to THEIR mobs.

Yes, THEIR mobs, THEIR gun control. It all fits together.



Oh, yeah, definitely. High capacity magazines bans, etc. are purely designed in an effort to make white people helpless and powerless against rampaging hordes of brown.

Anonymous Tipsy September 22, 2016 5:49 PM  

I've often heard the phrase "White Guilt" to describe the accommodations and excuses that well intentioned whites make for NAMs, for oppression real or imagined. Given that there is such a disproportionate amount of violence and crimes committed by blacks, one would think that there would be "Black Guilt" phenomenon as well. I'm not aware of it though. Does it exist?

OpenID paworldandtimes September 22, 2016 6:06 PM  

It's not guilt. It's pity.

PA

Blogger Fatherless September 22, 2016 6:14 PM  

Was that the inspiration for the riot scene in ToB?

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 22, 2016 6:20 PM  

Silly tipsy, guilt is for Whites.
Whatever Blacks do to Whitey, Whitey deserved it.

Anonymous BigGayKoranBurner September 22, 2016 6:25 PM  

people who are highly thoughtful (and prepared) for Really Bad Stuff never seem to be the ones in the wrong place at the wrong time

Flee die verse city, its never the right time to be in the wrong place

Piker!Ha-- How old are you? I learned that word from a buddy thirty years ago but I've never met anyone else who uses it

Maybe it will come back in style with a Vlad Tepes revival

Anonymous Skillet September 22, 2016 6:26 PM  

Brush guards are nice, but with a Claymore they're even better!

Anonymous Steve Brown VFM September 22, 2016 6:36 PM  

If they (the black thugs) don't get smart, lots of them will end up dead. Mostly be citizens that have grown very tired of there diatribe and actions over the last 40 years.

Blogger dc.sunsets September 22, 2016 6:45 PM  

@123 I don't think it's pity. It's what SWPL's feel when they see a Humane Society commercial featuring sad-faced, neglected dogs. The minority underclass is simply a prop (as you and the rest of VP visitors know) by which mostly white women battle other women for supremacy. "I see your Prada handbag and raise you an anti-racist diatribe and a breast cancer 5k walk/run."

Anonymous Anonymous September 22, 2016 7:26 PM  

Vox,the northern Irish example is a poor benchmark. That incident was during a funeral of 3 people killed at the funeral of 3 IRA folks shot while reconnoitring a bombing.

In addition, the crowd were veteran rioters who would have faced live fire (from lead and non-lethal rounds) before.

Anonymous Eric the Red September 22, 2016 7:34 PM  

Those who rail against the nebulous voodoo of white privilege seek to replace it with white slavery. Whites are supposed to produce the best of white civilization while benefiting from none of it, as it all gets handed to the brown leeches instead.

I do not see an end to the problem of blacks in an essentially white society. An attempt at every kind of solution has been tried, and nothing works. Ask yourself something... do you think these conflicts with blacks will ever go away without forced segregation, including deportation and expatriation? Because I certainly don't. 99.99% of blacks will never match up to the responsibilities of white civilization. They know it, and we know it. I doubt even VD's estimate of 1000 years will be long enough to make any significant difference. Meanwhile, why be forced to live with the inevitable problems?

It's long past time to put an end to the chaos caused by blacks.

Anonymous Tipsy September 22, 2016 7:47 PM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:Silly tipsy, guilt is for Whites.

Whatever Blacks do to Whitey, Whitey deserved it.


Upon further reflection, I think "Black Guilt" does exist. I get that vibe from my interaction with blacks, who seem eager to respond to kindness with very overt friendliness (which is nice, by the way). In such a way, Good Willed Blacks (GWBs) that are signalling that they don't want to be associated with the evils of the black underclass.

I think the difference is this: In SWPL circles, White Guilt virtue signalling is socially rewarded. In GWB circles, it is not - it's seen as a betrayal of the struggle.

Blogger Revelation Means Hope September 22, 2016 7:56 PM  

I'm left wondering if the higher IQ of the African-American rioter would have them run away unlike those in SA per the OP's advice.

I would think that 2 or 3 people having their heads blown apart at close range would send most nearby running and screaming in any other direction. However, I don't think most shooter would have the ruthlessness to immediately go to a Walking Dead demonstration against their fellow human beings.

But the linked youtube video of the cars that maintained their momentum should educate people who find themselves in a situation like that.

Just remember the police mantra "I felt that my life was in danger. I felt that my life was in immediate danger. I felt like my life was in danger so I was trying to get away."

Blogger dc.sunsets September 22, 2016 8:08 PM  

All of this reminds me that what we're seeing is just Kabuki Theater.

A few people killed or maimed in a country this size is nothing (except to the persons involved, of course.)

All of this is just posturing. If anything was serious, the violence would be several orders of magnitude worse, and bodies would be stacked up like cordwood.

We're still seeing only smoke. It remains to be seen if this volcano has an eruption (war) coming.

Blogger Abyssus Invocat September 22, 2016 8:11 PM  

Indeed, provoking a race war is a bad idea when you're only 15% of the population. Or didn't all the implications of being a "minority" soak in?

Blogger Mountain Man September 22, 2016 8:23 PM  

Living in one of the whitest areas of the country, this all seems very far away to me.Sort of like its happening in another country. One of the reasons its the whitest is the fact its very rural and pretty much 7 months out of the year its winter. It tends to keep the asphalt apes away.
Honestly, the occasional diddu who strays through here sort of sticks out like a big hairy mole on the milky white ass cheek of a hot blonde. You sort of just stare at it in disgust.
Regarding cow-catchers for vehicles. They already make them for semi trucks. The pulp haulers around here all have them. They keep the truck from being demolished should they have a chance encounter with a swamp donkey. ( moose) .
I have a feeling a semi moving at roughly 35 MPH and equipped with a moose guard could pretty much continue in perpetuity through a chimp out.

Anonymous Mr. Deplorabional September 22, 2016 9:00 PM  

James Dixon wrote:Odds are it won't be the local community folks you have to worry about. You'll be prosecuted at the state and/or federal level.
If the locals don't bother investigating, the state and feds will be awfully short on manpower.

Besides, if they have to bring in people from outside the local state/fed offices because the locals won't touch things, they're probably going to throw up their hands.  Mostly you have to practice presence of mind, absence of body, and STFU.

Balázs Varga wrote:if these dindus tried this in Russia, than they would be dead already. You just need to look to the wisdom of the east for help.
Your current wisdom is USA history, and hardly forgotten.

Blogger Mountain Man September 22, 2016 9:14 PM  

@116
Gun Control Now = White Genocide Later.

GOA - the only group standing fully for the 2nd Ammendment

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents September 22, 2016 9:19 PM  

Having viewed a number of vids, this particular chimpout looks more and more like a deliberate provocation. This is supposed to provoke white men into action that will restore sympathy for black rioters and provide an excuse for some kind of Federal crackdown.

It's got a whiff of Xanatos - either whitey in North Carolina lets black men loot, rob, burn etc. with near impunity, or white in North Carolina proves he's hopelessly and unredeemably Rayciss. Either accept crap in yo' face, or prove you are uncivilized.

However, the black mob going more and more over the top might just backfire. Hillary Rodan Robot has pledged herself to #OnlyBlackLivesMatter as well as to #MoreIslamPlease, so when the jihad sets off bombs and OBLM blocks & wrecks the freeway, it's not a good look.

How many fence sitters thinking of voting for Johnson can look at that video and say, "Eh, no big deal"? Fewer every day.

The election is over a month away, but it might be a done deal after a few more nights of this.

Blogger Mountain Man September 22, 2016 9:51 PM  

"It's got a whiff of Xanatos - either whitey in North Carolina lets black men loot, rob, burn etc. with near impunity, or white in North Carolina proves he's hopelessly and unredeemably Rayciss. Either accept crap in yo' face, or prove you are uncivilized."

Very insightful. Taken at face value it appears as a hobsons choice of sorts.
However, the reality is that most whites play a long game - something the low time preference people will never understand.

Blogger clk September 22, 2016 10:00 PM  

99.9% of the time I agree with Peter .. but in this case.. do not get out of the boat, don't get out of the car, do not give up your best weapon... 2x7 230g of 45 copper jacketed lead is still vastly less energy than a 2000 lbs car travelling at 55 mph.

These are not real rioters in south africa...just showing the gun with a determined look will deter 99% , leaving the 1% alone. Just look at that one guy in NC .. he held his gun out, the crowds parted, and he went on his way. What I thought was funny was that the papers kept on saying "its illegal to carry a gun at a protest" .. well first, it wasn't a protest, it was a riot, and second he was just trying driving thru,. he wasn't at the protest...

Does anyone here have CCW insurance ? -- it seems pretty cheap protection... that would help with the legal expenses ..

Blogger Lazarus September 22, 2016 10:51 PM  

Mountain Man wrote:I have a feeling a semi moving at roughly 35 MPH and equipped with a moose guard could pretty much continue in perpetuity through a chimp out.

That guy in Nice did not seem to have any problem with meat gumming up his wheels.

Anonymous Hawkeye September 22, 2016 10:53 PM  

I recently picked up CCW insurance.
$30 a month. (USCCA.)

The lawfare can be worse than the warfare.

Blogger Lazarus September 22, 2016 10:54 PM  

So, what you need is a lifted truck with gun rack and a manned .50 Cal in the back .

Good to go.

Anonymous Avalanche September 22, 2016 11:58 PM  

@141 "CCW insurance"

I belong to the Armed Citizen's Legal Defense Network. I looked at what there is out there, and some of them only pay AFTER you're found not guilty! (Which makes NOT helping you good for them, eh?) That's no help if you're arrested and thrown in jail and you have to come up with a quick $10k retainer to even get a lawyer to come bail you out! ACLDN provides a LOT of help; including a list of associated local lawyers (because defending a guilty-as-hell defendant is quite different from defending a legit-use-of-force defendant; and they want you to pick, meet, and agree with a lawyer so you HAVE one "before need"), they send a set of videos\ when you join, they can refer you to expert witnesses, and so on. WELL worth the cost. I'm not associated with them except for having joined 2 years ago when I began carrying.
armedcitizensnetwork.org

Also strongly recommend the book and class by Andrew Branca, Esq.: "The Law of Self Defense, 3rd Ed."; and classes pitched specifically to your state -- because as he points out (I took the GA one): it's almost more important to read the jury instructions in similar cases in your state than the state law (but do both!). http://lawofselfdefense.com

Anonymous Takin' a Deplorable Look September 23, 2016 12:00 AM  

We should be suing west Africa for selling us defective product.

Anonymous map September 23, 2016 12:45 AM  

The one thing you are not considering is the surveillance and electronic footprint. Video seems to be everywhere and cell towers can track your phones. Wearing some kind of disguise to defeat everyday surveillance and containing your phone in a Faraday bag are both habits you should get in to. Your phone should be "up/down" periscope usage.

Avoid vehicles with any navigation systems. Those give you away. A police band radio in a car should be useful.

The makeup and other gear is a good idea. More elaborate would be something designed to block your license plate or temporary paint jobs for your car.

Media is your enemy.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 23, 2016 12:46 AM  

map wrote:containing your phone in a Faraday bag
Virtually impossible. Faraday cage needs to be grounded.

Anonymous map September 23, 2016 12:53 AM  

Snidely,

@148

You don't need a Faraday Cage to be grounded. You just need a Faraday bag. They sell those on Amazon.

Blogger Demonic Professor El September 23, 2016 1:18 AM  

@map re: surveillance

Plus, there are other routes like attaching a low-intensity (such as red) LED pointer to a hat. Little things like that. I can't recall off the top of my head, but there are gels and particles that help obscure cameras and facial recognition. I'll have to look it up.

Overall comment - Grant's advice is great overall in its message of having situational awareness. A group of 200 or so blocking a highway, etc., is a lot different than a group of 10 or so thugs blocking a street. One you can definitely plow through. The other? Look to escape by other means. Situational awareness!

Another thing for us all here to keep in mind is Castle Laws and Stand Your Ground Laws. North Carolina (and many other states) have both, so the whole "duty to retreat" thing is nullified. In a crowd/riot situation, it may again be context. If you go into the crowd guns blazing, the cops may not look on that kindly. If you're just walking home and some thugs happened upon you, you may take a different tack.

It's hard to say, but right now in the US I wouldn't recommend using deadly force in a riot situation, especially one racially fueled. Grant is right in this - they'll be looking for a scapegoat. Look at George Zimmerman and the "controversy of Stand Your Ground Laws" and "RAYCISM" back then (even though he was attacked and the angel reached for his gun).

OR: Subsonic rounds and light trainers?

Blogger Demonic Professor El September 23, 2016 1:24 AM  

Addendum: Since in North Carolina, castle/stand your ground applies to vehicles as well, so that driver with the gun was legally okay. Now, we know that won't stop converged LE, but he was still legal.

Anonymous Jack Amok September 23, 2016 1:27 AM  

Phased plasma rifle in the 40-watt range...

I've been pondering the usefulness of a high-powered laser as a truck gun. Sweep it back and forth at eye-level, or rather at the level where the rioters used to have their eyes...

Easy enough to build the thing. A bit trickier to test how effective it would be.

As far as the Irish and rioting, yeah, like Snidely said, if you try to scare off one of us Micks by threatening violence, you really don't understand your audience.

We should be suing west Africa for selling us defective product

They were just the manufacturers. Shouldn't we blame the (((retailers))) first?

Anonymous Mr. Deplorabional September 23, 2016 1:42 AM  

@148  Electrical engineer here.  Faraday cages need no grounding.  They are (theoretically) equipotential surfaces; in reality, EM waves dissipate so rapidly with depth they are effectively impenetrable if the openings are small enough and have no isolated pass-throughs.

Blogger Demonic Professor El September 23, 2016 1:43 AM  

Jack Amok wrote:We should be suing west Africa for selling us defective product

They were just the manufacturers. Shouldn't we blame the (((retailers))) first?


I think we've got a RICO!

Anonymous Jack Amok September 23, 2016 3:00 AM  

I think we've got a RICO!

Shoulda picked their own damn cotton.

(BTW, my ancestors were just the delivery guys. The UPS truck leaving a delivery on your porch. Or auction block, kinda get those confused.)

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable September 23, 2016 3:18 AM  

Mountain Man wrote:Very insightful. Taken at face value it appears as a hobsons choice of sorts.

However, the reality is that most whites play a long game - something the low time preference people will never understand.


It also applies to medium time preference people. We're literally planning right in front of their faces for what we will do when their currency fails. Because we don't care. It's the map, not the terrain, and they won't matter when it happens.

Blogger Demonic Professor El September 23, 2016 3:19 AM  

Haha, yeah you don't really go after UPS if the product sucks. Insurance covers any damage in handling.

I guess porch? Depends if its special order, I would guess.

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable September 23, 2016 3:32 AM  

And I think you got that backward Mountain Man, although it isn't objective, so I normally say "short" or "long" time preference instead "low" or "high". (My current job is functional semantics, so it's really bringing out my ocd tendencies.)

And my understanding is that "high" time preference is that you prefer now more than later. So you'll give away a lot of work tomorrow for a little sandwich today.

Anonymous VFM 9054 September 23, 2016 3:45 AM  

Vox, have you considered soliciting a light infantry/unconventional warfare manual aimed at civilians to publish? Something like William Lind's FMFM 2-1 light infantry manual, but aimed at educating individuals, and small groups.

Blogger JaimeInTexas September 23, 2016 6:47 AM  

It is not insurrection, it is riot eith looting. There is no attempt at taking the reigns of the [state] government by an organized militant group.

Anonymous Eric the Red September 23, 2016 7:11 AM  

In the 50's, society expected the future to be like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sogYgHlNnqo

Instead, we now have this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gp0Z0MTxt-w

And all because we have pandered to the extortion of dindus and their leftist plantation owners.

Blogger Wrangler September 23, 2016 8:05 AM  

Great advice, best thing to do is AVOID.

If you can't, however, I've been in a dozen or so firefights in OIF & OEF. Choose a course of action and don't be indecisive. Fight, run, hide or whatever seems to have the best chance of success; but once you decide - do it all the way. Indecision kills on the battlefield.

Blogger Tom Kratman September 23, 2016 8:54 AM  

Ordinarily, provided you're not an idiot who fires warning shots (which tend to suggest to the mob that you're not serious or that the Ghost Shirt theory of ballistic defense works), firing into the forward members of the rioting crowd will tend to send them scurrying when people start screaming and falling. Some may shoot back, of course, so do take cover. It's not that you can kill them all; it's that, having demonstrated that you will kill, to door to killing any one of the atomized individuals is open. They generally lack the social cohesion to face that. However, some caveats:

1. You must be trained to shoot accurately and calmly even under stress and threat. If you can't do that, you're probably better off running if you can.
2. You must make the decision to shoot at a point where you can expect to hit them but where they are far enough away that they can't just swamp you. They need enough time to realize that you are killing them and will continue to kill them until they run.
3. Have a very reliable gun and high quality ammunition; a jam or double feed can kill your ass. Train, in advance, to clear the malfunction.
4. 3x13 round magazines are better than 2; 2 are better than one is.

Anonymous elmertjones September 23, 2016 10:03 AM  

I have thought that a "firecracker grenade" would be useful for many mob situations. Just toss it and it sounds like gunshots going off, which would scatter the fools. Then make your break.

Anonymous Hezekiah Garrett September 23, 2016 11:29 AM  

@102 Thanks, didn't know the tank change thing. Guess you can also intuit what I mostly ride and drive from the question.

I guess the 99 vintage is my new daily driver.

Anonymous Bellator Mortalis September 23, 2016 11:36 AM  

(1) Heavier vehicle with 4 wheel drive.
(2) PS90 with 50 shot magazine. Pay the $200 federal license to SBR it. (Note: the PS90 is expensive.)

Blogger Tom Kratman September 23, 2016 11:37 AM  

I'd expect that to inoculate the mob against panic, Elmer.

Blogger Aeoli Pera September 23, 2016 1:07 PM  

Abyssus Invocat wrote:Indeed, provoking a race war is a bad idea when you're only 15% of the population. Or didn't all the implications of being a "minority" soak in?

Have you ever seen a black person use the word "imply" to mean anything other than racism?

Blogger SirHamster September 23, 2016 2:10 PM  

SciVo de Plorable wrote:And my understanding is that "high" time preference is that you prefer now more than later. So you'll give away a lot of work tomorrow for a little sandwich today.

Yeah, high is "worse".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_preference

High time preference means you want it NOW NOW NOW.
Low time preference means you're willing to get it later.

It's a measure of how soon you want the reward, rather than how good the reward is.

Anonymous Athor Pel September 23, 2016 2:27 PM  

91. Anonymous Hezekiah Garrett September 22, 2016 3:44 PM
@1 Half a tank of fuel at all times makes sense, but...

(to anyone who has an answer) what do you do about the damage done to your fuel system, especially your tank, ESPECIALLY if you eventually have to take it down lower than half.

Where the water, rust, and gunk live. How do you mitigate that?


For working on old vehicles a youtube show called Roadkill has been quite instructive for me. They do lots of junkyard rehabs.

Old fuel systems that have been sitting for years will have lots of gunk in them. Even after draining and rinsing the whole fuel system, you will still get lots of gunk in a new fuel filter.

The guys on Roadkill now routinely use two fuel filters in series on every project vehicle, and they carry spares. Once the engine becomes fuel starved through filter clogging they just pull over, remove the clogged filter, hook things back up, get the fuel flowing again and in short order they are on the road again. It rarely requires more than one clogged filter to get a clean running fuel system.


" Blogger Wrangler September 23, 2016 8:05 AM
Great advice, best thing to do is AVOID.

If you can't, however, I've been in a dozen or so firefights in OIF & OEF. Choose a course of action and don't be indecisive. Fight, run, hide or whatever seems to have the best chance of success; but once you decide - do it all the way. Indecision kills on the battlefield."


Which means if you're prone to decision paralysis you need to always be making that decision in preparation for the possibility of bad things happening. To put another way, if that first step takes long brain cycles then take the step before you need it for every new place you enter.

You need to be conscious of what your trigger events might be and then act on it every single time.

Blogger Were-Puppy September 23, 2016 3:09 PM  

@50 Pole Lick

One day, probably sooner than later, the DINDU are going to murder the wrong person's family member. That person is going to exact their own justice. And that's going to be the new way of getting justice.
---
Fix'd

Blogger Tom Kratman September 23, 2016 3:45 PM  

"Have you ever seen a black person use the word "imply" to mean anything other than racism?"

Yes.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 23, 2016 4:23 PM  

Hezekiah Garrett wrote:@102 Thanks, didn't know the tank change thing. Guess you can also intuit what I mostly ride and drive from the question.

I guess the 99 vintage is my new daily driver.


Well, all of that said, as Athor Pel points out above, if the car goes without being drive for a while, depending on climate, you will get condensation in the tank. And the varnish and other gunk in the gasoline will precipitate out and clog everything up.
And, there is a bacterium that eats gasoline and reduces it to, among other products, water. I used to work at a gas station that basically went out of business because we got it in our tanks and everybody in town sued us to pay for their engine repairs.
I used to have a '63 Chevy pickup that would clog the fuel filter about every 300 miles. It also had no 1st gear, or synchromesh. It taught me how to double-clutch and how to feather the throttle when changing gears. When the clutch on my brother's very expensive 3/4 ton Japanese truck went out, I got it home for him.

Anonymous Discard September 24, 2016 2:34 AM  

163 Tom Kratman: Archibald Henderson, Commandant of the USMC in the early 1800s, once personally led 30 Marines to suppress a prison riot. He gave the 150 inmates five minutes to return to their cells, after which he would order his men to fire their muzzle loaders. Of course, the 120 inmates still standing would then have torn the Marines apart, but the Commandant did not flinch. After about four minutes had passed, a few of the rioters kinda thought that they weren't willing to risk the one out of five chance that they'd be shot, and slunk away. Before the five minutes were up, the prison yard was clear. They believed that the Commandant was serious, and as you say, did not have the social cohesion to face him down.

Blogger world entertainment September 24, 2016 3:26 AM  

Ordinarily, provided you're not an idiot who fires warning shots (which tend to suggest to the mob that you're not serious or that the Ghost Shirt theory of ballistic defense works), firing into the forward members of the rioting crowd will tend to send them scurrying when people start screaming and falling. Some may shoot back, of course, so do take cover. It's not that you can kill them all; it's that, having demonstrated that you will kill, to door to killing any one of the atomized individuals is open. They generally lack the social cohesion to face that. However, some caveats:

1. You must be trained to shoot accurately and calmly even under stress and threat. If you can't do that, you're probably better off running if you can.
2. You must make the decision to shoot at a point where you can expect to hit them but where they are far enough away that they can't just swamp you. They need enough time to realize that you are killing them and will continue to kill them until they run.
3. Have a very reliable gun and high quality ammunition; a jam or double feed can kill your ass. Train, in advance, to clear the malfunction.
4. 3x13 round magazines are better than 2; 2 are better than one is.
Well, all of that said, as Athor Pel points out above, if the car goes without being drive for a while, depending on climate, you will get condensation in the tank. And the varnish and other gunk in the gasoline will precipitate out and clog everything up.
And, there is a bacterium that eats gasoline and reduces it to, among other products, water. I used to work at a gas station that basically went out of business because we got it in our tanks and everybody in town sued us to pay for their engine repairs.
I used to have a '63 Chevy pickup that would clog the fuel filter about every 300 miles. It also had no 1st gear, or synchromesh. It taught me how to double-clutch and how to feather the throttle when changing gears. When the clutch on my brother's very expensive 3/4 ton Japanese truck went out, I got it home for him.

Blogger Tom Kratman September 24, 2016 2:09 PM  

The Marines would also have had bayonets, Dis, so even after firing the odds were with them.

And who is this person copying and pasting without commenting?

Anonymous Discard September 24, 2016 3:37 PM  

Count on a colonel to remember to fix bayonets. You're right. 120 felons will not charge 30 bayonets, any more than cavalry horses will charge infantry squares.

Anonymous Mr. Deplorabional September 24, 2016 3:57 PM  

Tom Kratman wrote:who is this person copying and pasting without commenting?
I'm surprised that this robot hasn't been banned and spammed already.  Someone dropped the ball.

Blogger Tom Kratman September 24, 2016 7:59 PM  

Less than 120, after, "Volley fire...PRESENT...Fire!"

Blogger Hal Gore September 25, 2016 1:27 PM  

79. J A Baker

Thank you for the 'Naked Prey' link.

It sounds lame at first but Shogun and Shaka Zulu are good too.

Blogger Hal Gore September 25, 2016 1:31 PM  

&9. JA Baker

'Give your Heart to the hawks' includes The story of Hugh Glass and a separate story of when he had to flee by foot and hid under a beaver dam.


https://www.amazon.com/Give-Your-Heart-Hawks-Mountain-ebook/dp/B006GR539E/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1474824560&sr=1-1&keywords=give+your+heart+to+the+hawks

Anonymous Mr. Deplorabional September 25, 2016 2:52 PM  

I really hate the automatic-linkification of URLs now.  Before, all I had to do was select what I wanted to open and right-click for my menu of options.  Now, if I want to open the link in the current tab, I have to go through a bunch of contortions.  If I want to strip off all the tracking crap that sites attach to many URLs, I have to copy the URL, open a new tab, paste in the address bar, and only THEN can I delete the privacy-violating stuff.

Anonymous Anonymous September 28, 2016 3:28 PM  

Algiers Point, Louisiana post-Katrina. Not always a good idea to be associated with other armed people in your neighborhood. Especially when a your militia does not share the same skin tone as the would-be rioters. Defend your house/property. Maybe team up with close friends or family, but definitely do not start a neighborhood militia. Group think and pack mentality will land you in jail.

Anonymous Anonymous September 28, 2016 3:31 PM  

1921 Tulsa Race Riot. Look it up.

Blogger Unknown September 28, 2016 3:31 PM  

1921 Tulsa Race Riot. Look it up.

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