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Wednesday, September 14, 2016

The central failure of conservatism


Multiply by 20 million.

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103 Comments:

Anonymous Takin' a Look September 14, 2016 3:33 PM  

Short,sweet, brutal shiv

Blogger praetorian September 14, 2016 3:36 PM  

That's some platonic form rhetoric.

Anonymous FitzRobert September 14, 2016 3:36 PM  

Dead-on and brilliant.

Blogger M Cephas September 14, 2016 3:39 PM  

Are being Conservative and Nationalist (America first) mutually exclusive?

The above drawing could just be seen as the central failure of a representative democracy, or government in general.

Anonymous Alexander September 14, 2016 3:39 PM  

On third glance, I note the bowtie. Nicely done.

Anonymous Alexander, #10 September 14, 2016 3:40 PM  

@4, yes

Those that value something wish to conserve it.

Anonymous Gedrin September 14, 2016 3:42 PM  

That's depressingly effective. It's no wonder Conservatism failed to actually conserve anything.

Anonymous Dave September 14, 2016 3:43 PM  

Mentioned FA Hayek to my Mexican landscapers once. All they cared about was if he knew Selma.

Blogger Krul September 14, 2016 3:45 PM  

Chicanos voting for a negro?

Anonymous dagwood September 14, 2016 3:47 PM  

The cartoon is of course hilarious and brilliant (same thing, really). But I never understood this business about limited government in a country that isn't less than 4 million largely homogeneous people on a single seaboard, which is what they understood at the time.

Like it or not, this country is now the size of an entire f!cking continent, and it has nuclear weapons, and it's conquered a huge swathe of the world, and it thinks that everything that goes on in places on the other side of the planet are "American interests", and although I wish all the non-whites would go away, they're never going to, now that they've got their meat-hooks into us. Ain't gonna happen. And you can't govern a place this large and this chaotic with "limited government". That may have made sense back in Jemmy Madison days, but not no more. What else is on the table?

Anonymous dagwood September 14, 2016 3:51 PM  

Actually, if you wanted to be severe about it, if the cartoon is called "The Failure of Conservatism," it could have just ended at "Hola".

Blogger sapopular September 14, 2016 3:51 PM  

Rhetoric triumphs Dialectics.

Anonymous WinstonWebb September 14, 2016 3:54 PM  

although I wish all the non-whites would go away, they're never going to, now that they've got their meat-hooks into us. Ain't gonna happen.
Your glaring ignorance of human history, while certainly mainstream, won't play well here. You'll only be (rightly) mocked and ridiculed for it...

...you idiot.

Anonymous andon September 14, 2016 3:55 PM  

yeah except the person on the right should prob be white

Blogger praetorian September 14, 2016 3:56 PM  

Chicanos voting for a negro?

It's more likely than you think!

Blogger Geir Balderson September 14, 2016 3:56 PM  

I am moving to Italy.

Blogger Leo Littlebook in Shenzhen September 14, 2016 3:56 PM  

Are there any black politicians in South America?

Tough to feel special when you're just the bottom of a gradient.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 14, 2016 4:01 PM  

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Blogger Cataline Sergius September 14, 2016 4:02 PM  

Mentioned FA Hayek to my Mexican landscapers once. All they cared about was if he knew Selma.

I was predicting this the moment I saw the name, Hayek.

It's the bow tie that sells it.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 14, 2016 4:02 PM  

@VD
A cover for your next non-fiction book.

Blogger tublecane September 14, 2016 4:13 PM  

I don't think that's the central failure. Race is certainly more important than, say, the capital gains rate, but the same principle is applied by conservatives to both issues. They have made a deal with the devil of leftism, by which they get to be the Respectable Opposition. Because the left not only needs someone to blame when it screws up--and phantom menaces like the KKK don't always cut it--it also is never at peace with itself. There are factions, and factions within factions. Once they come to a consensus, as they have with gay marriage, suddenly opposing gay marriage is a thoughtcrime, and conservatives drop it. In the meantime, conservatives are allowed to oppose gay marriage. In fact they must oppose it, because doing so is useful to leftists to build consensus.

There must needs be a group that sits teetering on the edge, there. To keep the left in line, and to keep the rowdy right out of the public's notice. That is Conservatism, Inc.'s role. They champion the causes that the left is moments away from declaring out of bounds.

Blogger Troy Lee Messer September 14, 2016 4:14 PM  

I wish VD had been around 35 years ago. I've always been a dialectical person. It has been a tough lesson that the vast majority of this species is not convinced by things like affirmed antecedents or denied consequent.

Blogger ace September 14, 2016 4:16 PM  

dagwood wrote:What else is on the table?

War.

Blogger professorastro September 14, 2016 4:17 PM  

The idea behind that cartoon is what moved me from Libertarian to Alt-Right.

Anonymous dagwood September 14, 2016 4:18 PM  

"You'll only be (rightly) mocked and ridiculed for it... [para break somehow necessary if you can believe it, and then even MORE ellipses, this chap is rilly trying to be understood] ...you idiot."

I have to say, that was some pretty durn good spoutin' from Spouty the Whale.

So, some guy on the internet said I was an idiot. Huh. What's for lunch?

Blogger tublecane September 14, 2016 4:19 PM  

I just realized I didn't explain a key component. Conservatism, Inc. is useful to the left primarily because it knows they will suppress those further on the right. The left can't go around suppressing everything, or at least they can't be obvious about it. Not yet. Maybe with the kind of Hate Speech laws you find elsewhere in the West. The Respectable Opposition is useful for this because they can trust them not to turn radical suddenly, because they've cut the devil's bargain mentioned above. They know Conservatism, Inc. will drop whatever they've been doing and shift leftwards when the left has made up its mind on any issue, for instance gay marriage recently. And drop it Conservatism, Inc. did, right on cue.

It's that knowledge that they will drop it, and the knowledge that they will police their own side in favor of the left, that's what keeps their bellies full.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan September 14, 2016 4:27 PM  

You got it tublecane, better to tell the Left I don't care and have a bigger snit fit while they are at it then play contard failure theater

Blogger Krul September 14, 2016 4:28 PM  

professorastro wrote:The idea behind that cartoon is what moved me from Libertarian to Alt-Right.

And not a moment too soon.

*cough*

Blogger Mr.MantraMan September 14, 2016 4:29 PM  

And FTR vote for me amigos and I'll give you the blacks' shit, and let you enjoy white feminist lovins

Anonymous WinstonWebb September 14, 2016 4:32 PM  

dagwood,
You should have left well enough alone.
Regarding this gem of a prediction:
although I wish all the non-whites would go away, they're never going to, now that they've got their meat-hooks into us. Ain't gonna happen.
Go ahead and provide 2 historical examples of a mass human migration that did not result in either mass expulsions of invaders (and/or genocide of same) or subjugation of the native populace (and/or genocide of same). Then explain how that whole "Ain't gonna happen" thing works.

Blogger weka September 14, 2016 4:45 PM  

This is the poison of the Tribunes of the Plebs. Bread and Circuses. They rot the republic.

Only those with skin in the game should vote. That means ratepayers -- those who pay property tax -- for local body elections, and taxpayers (and veterans) for the state elections.

Democracy is inherently unstable. And the progressives want, want a one-party state with their |||tribe||| in control.

Anonymous New guy in town September 14, 2016 4:50 PM  

I agree with previous posters, this nails it. I just wish the cucks would realize it, and then we'd get somewhere. At least on a personal level, my sister's husband is retired military, and said he thinks that Trump goes too far in banning muslims. We talked and I told him how Carter banned all Iranians, saying it was possible. Then I told him about how islam really is, and he started asking a bunch of questions, and when I told him about al taqqiya, the muslim doctrine that says it's not a sin to lie to an infidel to advance the cause of islam, he came around. Cartoons like this only serve to help us, and I'm glad you posted this Vox.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 14, 2016 4:51 PM  


Kek is the sky from which the dank memes fall, kek is the ocean into which the memes, having become stale, flow.

The memes come from kek, the memes return to kek. To kek be the lulz.

Blogger Bard September 14, 2016 4:51 PM  

Fuck Whitey. Vote fo me and you canz have his shit.

Blogger Bard September 14, 2016 4:54 PM  

33. Heh

Blogger Amy September 14, 2016 4:55 PM  

I know this is OT and I wish I had a screen cap but they deleted before I could capture it, but Catholics, listen up! Regina Magazine is compromised and cucked, if you didn't know it already.

They posted Rabbi Schmuley Boteach and Pam Anderson as anti-porn advocates, I replied that Pam was finally understanding her value and speaking out against porn because SHE was no longer the highllight, I told them they were cucked, they warned me of being banned, and not even a minute later I could not find my comments, they were disappeared. I try to screencap everything but they were faster than I could be.

Just letting fellow Catholics and Christians know that Regina is no friend to them and toes the Progressive line despite their high and mighty conservative "sounding" daily headlines.

Anonymous Reality September 14, 2016 5:06 PM  

yeah except the person on the right should prob be (((white)))

FIFY.

Anonymous dagwood September 14, 2016 5:07 PM  

"You should have left well enough alone."

Heh. (CHUCKLE, THEN) Heh.

"Go ahead and provide 2 historical examples..."

Funny, but, I don't believe I've seen your tuition check in the mail yet, Knuckles.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents September 14, 2016 5:08 PM  

Fuck Whitey. Vote fo me and you canz have his shit.

Hope 'n Change!

Anonymous WinstonWebb September 14, 2016 5:21 PM  

Yeah, that's what I thought, dagwood. The only thing that "Ain't gonna happen" is you supporting your load of bullshit.
Noted.

Blogger Knights of the West September 14, 2016 5:33 PM  

Guys, they are not going to just up and stop wanting our shit, we are going to have to organize and say "get the F**k out of here" at some point. knightsofthewest.com

Blogger James Dixon September 14, 2016 5:44 PM  

> So, some guy on the internet said I was an idiot. Huh. What's for lunch?

You haven't figured that out yet? You are.

Blogger James Dixon September 14, 2016 5:46 PM  

> Funny, but, I don't believe I've seen your tuition check in the mail yet, Knuckles.

I see someone's not long for this blog. You might want to peruse the rules of the blog over on the left sidebar, Junior.

Blogger Arthur Isaac September 14, 2016 5:47 PM  

Especially when "that guy" is awarded the right to speak based on his losing.

Looks like Powell, Condi, and Hillary are all on the same team. More or less.

Blogger Cecil Henry September 14, 2016 5:49 PM  

Here are a few others I like:


https://punditfromanotherplanet.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/social-justice.jpg?w=590

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_nHxd6JKTkN4/S8SxgtP2WdI/AAAAAAAAABM/XwR4qo9N09k/s1600/Snap_2010.04.13+13.57.50_003.png

Anonymous bwahahahaha September 14, 2016 6:02 PM  

@41 So, FBI, ATF, or someone else?

Blogger tz September 14, 2016 6:13 PM  

Meanwhile, Apple is apparently the next SJW target
But Tim Cook gave lots of cash to Hillary and is gay.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd September 14, 2016 6:30 PM  

bwahahahaha wrote:@41 So, FBI, ATF, or someone else?

Since he is apparently soliciting members online, he probably has dozens of moles from all the three letter agencies running stings on each other and the three legitimate members.

Meatspace is where it's at.

Anonymous Grinder September 14, 2016 6:34 PM  

You are still mostly behind the curve. It has taken far too long for most of you to finally realize that racial survival is the most important factor in the survival of western civilization. The best strategy now is to hasten the collapse of the rotten judeo-capitalist regimes by stirring up race hatred to drain the resources of the enemy in clamping down on it. Outside of work, I am much more vocal about my disdain for non-whites and race traitor white Marxists. If enough people do this, violence will flare and eventually affect more whites who are still not in the fight and not interested in the 14 words. Upsetting the enemy including numerous white traitors is necessary to effect change since too many are still comfortable going along with the status quo. Don't let (((them))) try to drive wedges between us. All nationalists of European heritage have common interests and one major (((common enemy))). No more brother wars.

Anonymous SAK September 14, 2016 6:37 PM  

The bow tie, talking Hayek...am I the only one seeing and hearing Jeffrey Tucker?

Blogger tz September 14, 2016 6:45 PM  

And more misogyny at Apple
Shouldn't Tim Cook resign now or the board eject him like Mozilla did to Eich? Or will there be insanely great virtue signalling.

Anonymous Gen. Kong September 14, 2016 6:46 PM  

andon wrote:yeah except the person on the right should prob be white

Maybe, but (((white))) would be closer to the mark.

Anonymous Gen. Kong September 14, 2016 6:48 PM  

tz wrote:And more misogyny at Apple

Shouldn't Tim Cook resign now or the board eject him like Mozilla did to Eich? Or will there be insanely great virtue signalling.


No there will be absolutely fa-a-a-a-abulous virtue signaling.

Anonymous Gen. Kong September 14, 2016 6:57 PM  

Krul wrote:Chicanos voting for a negro?

Care to take a wild guess who 2/3 of La raza voted for in 2008 and 2012? Both Repukes were drooling step-n-fetchits who praise the "fambly values" drunken Mexicans to Golden Dindu. Hussein basically promised what is in the cartoon and they voted for him overwhelmingly. They hate YT more than they hate the dindu.

Blogger Aeoli Pera September 14, 2016 6:57 PM  

The bow tie tells a story.

Blogger Rusty Fife September 14, 2016 7:04 PM  

Gen. Kong wrote:tz wrote:And more misogyny at Apple

Shouldn't Tim Cook resign now or the board eject him like Mozilla did to Eich? Or will there be insanely great virtue signalling.


No there will be absolutely fa-a-a-a-abulous virtue signaling.


Isn't virtual signaling, by sending non-employee POC out to represent, just corporate black face?

Blogger Zeroh Tollrants September 14, 2016 7:07 PM  

But HE'S A WHITE MALEEEE!

Spin on, mighty SJW ouroboros.

Blogger JaimeInTexas September 14, 2016 7:26 PM  

LOL

I do not think that Wenzel uses a bowtie but it reflects the academic.

Anonymous Jared September 14, 2016 7:38 PM  

"I do not think that Wenzel uses a bowtie but it reflects the academic."

Totally OT, but I think it's interesting. I work in an industry where it's pretty standard to dress very casually (by which I mean, well, sloppily). A while back I made a decision to start wearing suits and ties and snappy black dress shoes, sort of as a gesture, but also because I have some good ones and they were going to waste. I also started using more precise grammar and formal speech (I know a lot of grammar in many languages), just to see what would happen.

What happened was, all the women started to really brighten up whenever I encountered them. Not even in a romantic sense (taken, common knowledge.) But finally, SOMEbody was acting like a fr!ggin' MAN!

If the Alt Right can do that for public thought the way a simple suit and a tie can make a nerdish dude into Hercules, then the left is doomed.



Anonymous Jared September 14, 2016 7:41 PM  

Also, forgot to mention that bowties are always unforgivable, except if you're in a tux, at a wedding, and you're the best man. Which is what made me think of this in the first place.

Blogger pyrrhus September 14, 2016 7:43 PM  

Brilliant....and concise

Anonymous BGKB September 14, 2016 7:49 PM  

Related wetback doing job whites won't arson the Orlando Shooters Mosque https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2016/09/12/arson-suspected-in-fire-at-florida-mosque-attended-by-pulse-shooter-omar-mateen/

yeah except the person on the right should prob be (((white))) FIFY

Anonymous BGKB September 14, 2016 8:01 PM  

Meanwhile, Apple is apparently the next SJW target But Tim Cook gave lots of cash to Hillary and is gay

Even he can't get women to put in a full day or work, he should be able to get away with putting all women teams together.

51 Yes, the iPhone 7 event featured two black men — Nike Brand president Trevor Edwards and Instagram head of design Ian Spalter — but they did not represent Apple

With a combined IQ of 98.

Blogger Reese MacGruder September 14, 2016 8:03 PM  

i'm stealing that.

Blogger JaimeInTexas September 14, 2016 8:18 PM  

Nice. Good one. Kudos.

I am a programmer in a very small business. Casual all the time.

Anonymous johnc September 14, 2016 8:26 PM  

When did it become practically a federal crime to hire an American? Every where I go now I see non-Americans at work.

Anonymous meh September 14, 2016 8:38 PM  

"Funny, but, I don't believe I've seen your tuition check in the mail yet, Knuckles."

You are the one being schooled here, dags; you pay us. And turn in your homework on time.

"And not a moment too soon."

That guy is great. He sounds like a non-cucked version of John Oliver.

Anonymous Rolf September 14, 2016 8:39 PM  

Epic picto-rhetoric!

I wonder what would happen if a politician put that cartoon up on a poster during a debate, and made explicit that was what the FSA wants, from laziness, spite, hate, greed, envy, etc. Take the color out of it to remove the racial angle.

The shitstorm would be epic, and would cut to the core of a great many problems.

Blogger Krul September 14, 2016 8:43 PM  

OT: Hacked Colin Powell Email: Bohemian Grove Attendees Will Vote Against Trump

This election... it just keeps getting weirder.

Anonymous JAG September 14, 2016 8:46 PM  

Colon Bowel is quite the piece of shit.

Anonymous BGKB September 14, 2016 8:49 PM  

When did it become practically a federal crime to hire an American?

National origin discrimination, If you give a stronger background check for Wetbacko Hernandez with a social security number of 123-45-6789 than you did for the boss's son you are guilty if ((((better call Saul))) finds out

OT: If you go to MILO's tour and want him to blow you remember the name Peisistratos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7qysjyy4RI

Blogger David-2 September 14, 2016 9:00 PM  

New cuckservative spin: Vote Hillary, she's so incompetent her term won't amount to much and even the Repubs will be able to resist her efforts: NR hot take.

Anonymous JAG September 14, 2016 9:09 PM  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYqQQJcNUTE

Don't know if that has been posted here or not. It's Biden admitting that White Genocide is not only the goal, but the source of strength for the leftists.

Anonymous Gen. Kong September 14, 2016 9:15 PM  

JAG wrote:Colon Bowel is quite the piece of shit.

Housenigga for the Cuckstein Plantation. What did you expect, cracka?

Blogger John rockwell September 14, 2016 9:21 PM  

What's your thoughts on copying the aristocratic Republican model of Venice? Clearly current Republicanism devolved into democracy.

Blogger Lazarus September 14, 2016 9:32 PM  

Jared wrote:What happened was, all the women started to really brighten up whenever I encountered them. Not even in a romantic sense (taken, common knowledge.) But finally, SOMEbody was acting like a fr!ggin' MAN!

Just Common Sense in the Rock world:

Every girl crazy bout a sharp dressed man

Blogger rcocean September 14, 2016 9:45 PM  

Wrong. Hispanics are "natural conservatives" and will vote that way. In 30 or 50 years. Maybe. Y'know, just like the Swedes and the Irish.

Anonymous BGKB September 14, 2016 9:46 PM  

I just posted the cartoon as an example of a white guy trying to share the Asian/White privilege of future orientation.

Blogger rcocean September 14, 2016 9:47 PM  

Its funny to go back and read speeches and books back in the 1900-1917 timeframe when Jews were promoting themselves as 110% Americans. How'd that work out for everybody?

Blogger Benjamin Kraft September 14, 2016 9:47 PM  

38. You're actually serious? It's funny, because he's provided you more education than he's even requested of you. Funny, infantile demands that the teacher to pay him to prove the teacher wrong, when we all know he's entirely incapable of doing so.

I'd call you sophistic, but that would be a dire insult to actual sophists.

Anonymous Deplorable S E Delenda September 14, 2016 9:53 PM  

The sad thing is that free stuff appeal works well on many native born who think themselves patriotic Americans

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents September 14, 2016 10:04 PM  

This campaign is the gift that keeps on giving.


How two Twitter pranksters convinced first the Daily Beast, and then the world that Pepe is a NahZee Meme.


How stupid was the Beast journo-list? Well, actually attempted to interview a 19 year old named Jared Taylor Swift for their "news" story.

Jared Taylor Swift! Excellent!


Blogger Tracy Coyle September 14, 2016 10:10 PM  

I can be bought. I have strong principles, but even I have a price. Only about a dozen people on the planet can afford it, but it does exist.

Despite being a founding member of the ACP, I have asked exactly what has been accomplished by being anti-abortion (politically) for the last 40 years? In the meantime, ignoring the expanding (breadth) growing (volume) welfare state (virtue signaling). What has been conserved? Their own standing as virtue holders... Tuba players saving their instruments on the Titanic....

Blogger tz September 14, 2016 10:25 PM  

@71 - You didn't note that it was by (((Benji))) the littlest chicken cuck.

Another reason to vote for Trump, (((many))) will self-deport, especially citizens.

Blogger Lazarus September 14, 2016 11:03 PM  

tz wrote:@71 - You didn't note that it was by (((Benji))) the littlest chicken cuck.

Another reason to vote for Trump, (((many))) will self-deport, especially citizens.


The last thing (((they))) want to do is compete on a level playing field. Hard to play the anti-semitism card in Israel.

Anonymous Gen. Kong September 14, 2016 11:13 PM  

Tracy Coyle wrote:I can be bought. I have strong principles, but even I have a price. Only about a dozen people on the planet can afford it, but it does exist.

Despite being a founding member of the ACP, I have asked exactly what has been accomplished by being anti-abortion (politically) for the last 40 years? In the meantime, ignoring the expanding (breadth) growing (volume) welfare state (virtue signaling). What has been conserved? Their own standing as virtue holders... Tuba players saving their instruments on the Titanic....



Deck-chair feng-shui and ghost-dancing are longtime favorite conservative passtimes...

Blogger Were-Puppy September 15, 2016 1:41 AM  

@60 Jared
Also, forgot to mention that bowties are always unforgivable,
---

Nothing says pretentious fag like a bowtie.

Blogger Were-Puppy September 15, 2016 1:43 AM  

@68 Krul
OT: Hacked Colin Powell Email: Bohemian Grove Attendees Will Vote Against Trump

This election... it just keeps getting weirder.
---

I'm glad you posted that. I was thinking about it. I was surprised to see Colin Powell is a B Grover. Don't know why. They must almost all be.

The good news is, they don't like Trump. He must not be one of them.

Blogger Were-Puppy September 15, 2016 1:46 AM  

@75 Lazarus
Every girl crazy bout a sharp dressed man
---

a Haw haw haw haw

Blogger Ivan J September 15, 2016 2:00 AM  

In Hayek's defense, he also said that the USA lagged behind Europe.
I think we are already starting to see the local strain of Nazism.

I would like to add that the jungle law adherents don't understand the nuances of property rights or even inalienable rights, but they do understand the business end of firearm.

Blogger tublecane September 15, 2016 3:20 AM  

@89-There's a tendency in the air to call effective nationalistic opposition to communism--in our case of the PC variety--fascism. That's intellectual laziness. There's barely any Nazi strain to be seen. The internet makes it more apparent than it is in reality.

There's plenty of Nazi LARPing (a phrase I've heard the neo-fascists [or whatever they're called] throw around) going on. What we have in the "normie" (another of their pet terms) or semi-normie world is rebellion against political correctness. And not much of one, at that.

Trump has fascistic qualities, though. As I've said, he's a centrist liberal except on the Three Biggies, which are all the alt-right cares about. But if you bother to pay attention to his program as a whole, insofar as it has integrity, it's to the right of the ruling class but firmly to the left of us. And to the left of mainstream conservatism, which is why they're panties are in a bunch.

That's typical of fascist. They fight commies the hardest because they're part commie themselves. Trump isn't that, exactly, and on the Three Biggies he's obscenely to the right, from the ruling class's perspective.

Snother thing: fascism is associated with authoritarianism, unfairly perhaps given how many other authoritarian systems exist. In order to carry out his program over the objections of the permanent government, which will be four square against him, he'd need to be a virtual dictator. We've had dictators before (Lincoln, Wilson, FDR, Truman, etc.), and the ruling class worship their memory. But Trump isn't on their side, so he's Pure Evil, and should he somehow force their hand he'd be Manifest Death and the Harbinger of the End Times.

Or, in other words Literal Hitler. Anyone with any authority to the right of a leftist ruling class is Literally Hitler.

Blogger tublecane September 15, 2016 3:21 AM  

they're = their

Blogger SciVo September 15, 2016 4:21 AM  

tublecane wrote:@89-There's a tendency in the air to call effective nationalistic opposition to communism--in our case of the PC variety--fascism. That's intellectual laziness.

You're too kind and severely misunderstanding on two points.

tublecane wrote:There's plenty of Nazi LARPing (a phrase I've heard the neo-fascists [or whatever they're called] throw around) going on.

That is actually what the anti-fascists call it. LARPing is Live Action Role Play, as in Vampire: The Masquerade, a role-playing game where there is a lose condition if any of the normies around can tell that you're pretending to be a vampire. Because you're supposed to be pretending to be a vampire that is pretending to be normie.

But anyway, there are other LARP games and it's fair to call neo-Nazism one, if you think (as I do) that it's silly and unrealistic. I've routinely criticized Hitler as a loser who got his men shot, women raped and kids hungry.

(I'm also happy to shock people by saying e.g. that at least Hitler cared about the well-being of his people, so our leaders can only aspire to his level, since they apparently hate us and want us to die. Obama makes Hitler look good.)

tublecane wrote:Snother thing: fascism is associated with authoritarianism, unfairly perhaps given how many other authoritarian systems exist. In order to carry out his program over the objections of the permanent government, which will be four square against him, he'd need to be a virtual dictator. We've had dictators before (Lincoln, Wilson, FDR, Truman, etc.), and the ruling class worship their memory. But Trump isn't on their side, so he's Pure Evil, and should he somehow force their hand he'd be Manifest Death and the Harbinger of the End Times.

No, you misunderstand. It's super simple: he's pro-American, and they identify with non-America, so he's anti-them, so they hate him for being pro-us. And it would take force to stop anti-us people from hurting us, therefore he's an evil authoritarian.

It's all very emotional and irrational, and generally based on Jews not being able to even perceive serfdom, since as nomads they're really only concerned with pogroms.

Anonymous George of the Jungle September 15, 2016 4:31 AM  

USA: the first country in the world where it's a crime to be an American.

Blogger CarpeOro September 15, 2016 8:50 AM  

Didn't read all the other comments, but you could just as easily do ones starting in the mid 1800s with each ethnic group that came in. Very few immigrants (hell, few multi-generational Americans) understand the opportunity to live free. All understand the idea of "get some of what he has. From him if necessary."

Blogger Shimshon September 15, 2016 10:09 AM  

Speaking of Wenzel, he has now called Ivanka an SJW (technically, "SJW lightweight"). Sheesh, the guy has no clue. And he's read SJWAL.

http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2016/09/ivanka-trump-is-social-justice-warrior.html

Anonymous BGKB September 15, 2016 10:54 AM  

Jews not being able to even perceive serfdom, since as nomads they're really only concerned with pogroms

I am pretty sure they can perceive serfdom as what they impose upon others.

---Nothing says pretentious fag like a bowtie

You got that right.

The last thing (((they))) want to do is compete on a level playing field. Hard to play the anti-semitism card in Israel.

Israel has built up defenses to keep jews from jewing it

Anonymous RD Walker September 15, 2016 12:40 PM  

The brown, black and white faces in the cartoon represent an irrelevant introduction of race into the discussion. It would be just as accurate if they were all white. Anyone who thinks white people are somehow immune the seduction of bread and circuses is a racist fool. White people are as capable of parasitism as anyone.

Anonymous Mr. Rational September 15, 2016 2:36 PM  

RD Walker wrote:Anyone who thinks white people are somehow immune the seduction of bread and circuses is a racist fool.
Anyone who thinks that it isn't 1000x faster and easier to import already-corrupted barbarians than to corrupt Americans is purblind.

Anonymous RD Walker September 15, 2016 2:44 PM  

There is no need to either corrupt white Americans or import barbarians. The United States is lousy with corrupt barbarians of every race - including corrupt white barbarians.

Anonymous A.B. Prosper September 15, 2016 2:52 PM  

RD Walker wrote:There is no need to either corrupt white Americans or import barbarians. The United States is lousy with corrupt barbarians of every race - including corrupt white barbarians.

True but Whites are much less corrupt than the other group. Every society has a few parasites and barbarians and if it were say Whites alone, the amount we had wouldn't matter. Most of them will work if there is work anyway.

Note too the 1950's , the reason the crime rates were low is yes plenty of work, yes strong families but most importantly it was basically an entirely White society. 90%, 100% in many areas

Taking the 90', looking at the crime rate, its a little White trash and a lot of every other race.

Short and simple, Whites even crappy ones , even ones from defective societies are less prone to nearly every kind of crime and the basis is biology.

Anonymous A.B. Prosper September 15, 2016 3:04 PM  

RD Walker wrote:The brown, black and white faces in the cartoon represent an irrelevant introduction of race into the discussion. It would be just as accurate if they were all white. Anyone who thinks white people are somehow immune the seduction of bread and circuses is a racist fool. White people are as capable of parasitism as anyone.

You missed the point of the rhetoric, its anti immigration rhetoric not anti parasitism rhetoric.

The Republicans and Conservatives are obsessed with economic fair play and economic liberalism to the degree that they forget that only White and in particular White American societies care about these values at all

Every other society on Earth is nationalist, kleptocratic, big government, socialist, social democratic or the like. Every other one.

More importantly, your deep values are mostly selected by your race even more than your culture. Compliance with social goals leads to reproductive success.

Its mainly an Anglo thing

Its not an absolute of course , outliers exist but on the whole, Swedes will make a Swede style society and Mexicans a Mexican style one no matter where they go.

The caveat here is that White European Western, Central and Northern immigrants have the best chance of adapting to the values we want

This is why once we allowed mass immigration from other parts of Europe it was game over for our posterity.

However the US can function and survive with pre 1965 demographics in a less ideal fashion and maybe up to I dunno 1980's or so. That is where you have to go.

Otherwise Economic Liberalism and Fair Play are toast, the newcomers neither want nor need it nor can they be taught it anymore than you can teach a giraffe tensor calculus

Anonymous Eric the Red September 15, 2016 7:14 PM  

This is Natural Law, i.e. a hierarchy.
The hierarchy is about solutions, what is primary, what is secondary, what is tertiary.
There is a problem: the primary core of its solution is genetics, not ideology.
Once that solution is implemented, secondary applications can be considered.
The implementation of a primary solution is not binary.
The absence of certain genotypes does not mean their destruction, only their separation.

In philosophy there is Natural Law; in logic there is ASNEPO.

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