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Sunday, September 18, 2016

The decline and fall of Angela Merkel

Germans continue to turn away from Angela Merkel and the CDU:
German Chancellor Angela Merkel's party suffered a bruising loss in Berlin state elections Sunday while the right-wing populist AfD gained fresh support, capitalising on anger over her open-door refugee policy.

The anti-Islam Alternative for Germany party won over 12 percent, according to public broadcasters' projections, in the capital which has long prided itself on being a hip, diverse and multicultural city.

The strong AfD result, thanks to support especially in the vast tower block districts in Berlin's former communist east, meant it has now won opposition seats in 10 of Germany's 16 states, a year ahead of national elections.

Merkel's centre-right Christian Democratic Union (CDU) won just 18 percent -- its worst post-war result in the city, before or after the 1989 fall of the Berlin Wall -- likely spelling the end of its term as junior coalition partner to the Social Democrats (SPD), who won around 22 percent.
It's not as if things are going to get better for the CDU if they don't promptly return all of the migrants who have invaded Germany over the last year.

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107 Comments:

Blogger Matt September 18, 2016 3:47 PM  

From what I've read, many have taken vacations in the countries they "fled". Shouldn't be too difficult to refuse their re-entry.

Blogger Mountain Man September 18, 2016 4:00 PM  

OT but I found this interesting:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-09-17/twitter-sued-by-investor-for-failing-to-deliver-on-user-growth

Everything SJW's touch - they destroy.

Blogger Noah B September 18, 2016 4:04 PM  

I can't believe AfD support is only 12 percent there.

Anonymous JI September 18, 2016 4:05 PM  

What do things on the street in Italy look like these days, re. the whole Muslem migrant issue, Vox?

Blogger Matt September 18, 2016 4:10 PM  

Brainwashing is hard to overcome.

Blogger Lazarus September 18, 2016 4:15 PM  

JI wrote:What do things on the street in Italy look like these days, re. the whole Muslem migrant issue, Vox?

ask THE GOOGLE

Anonymous JAG September 18, 2016 4:22 PM  

Things are going to get much worse before they get better. The percentages still show far too much blue pill.

Blogger Rantor September 18, 2016 4:24 PM  

@5 and it's the West Germans who are the most brain washed...

Blogger szopen September 18, 2016 4:30 PM  

I wonder what is happening behind the door; I've read and heard that German besserwissers are frustrated by the opposition of V4 and other countries to their refugee relocation plans. They may want to start to impose greater pressure on my own gvt. On the other hand, my government is under fire for its fight with corrupted courts and postcomunist compradorian elites; I hope no one will decide it is wise to get German support for "symbolic" acceptance of few thousands...

I just do trust no politicians.

Blogger VFM #7634 September 18, 2016 4:30 PM  

I can't believe AfD support is only 12 percent there.

@3 Noah B
It's Berlin. I imagine its electorate is heavily leftist like Washington D.C. or New York City.

Anonymous Anonymous September 18, 2016 4:30 PM  

It is such a strange coincidence :^). Politicians normally do, or say, everything to get votes. But when it comes to mass immigration they consistently behave in a manner that costs them votes.

Blogger The Other Robot September 18, 2016 4:30 PM  

@6: Isn't Google censoring that stuff because of teh WACISSSSTSSS?

Blogger Skylark Thibedeau September 18, 2016 4:39 PM  

The Arabs are getting revenge on the Germans for that refugee crisis they caused in 1933-49 that made millions of Europeans flee to the Levant and revenge on the British for allowing them in.

Blogger ZhukovG September 18, 2016 4:42 PM  

If I had read a novel, in which a German Chancellor did what Merkel has done, I would have given it a negative review and accused the author of insulting the reader's intelligence.

'Someone' must have some serious shit on Merkel to get her to act this way.

This is not to say that Merkel isn't truly a Globalist, but the brazenness of her actions seems like someone trying to force a particular outcome. It would almost make better sense if Merkel was a closet Nazi trying to shock the Germans back into Nationalism.

Blogger FrankNorman September 18, 2016 4:48 PM  

4. JI September 18, 2016 4:05 PM

What do things on the street in Italy look like these days, re. the whole Muslem migrant issue, Vox?


Vox seems to never want to talk about Italian politics, and I think I understand why:
It's not his country, he merely lives the

Anonymous Faceless September 18, 2016 4:51 PM  

@13

She's a commie. She hates the West. This is all Frau Merkel.

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable September 18, 2016 4:59 PM  

ZhukovG wrote:'Someone' must have some serious shit on Merkel to get her to act this way.

This is not to say that Merkel isn't truly a Globalist, but the brazenness of her actions seems like someone trying to force a particular outcome. It would almost make better sense if Merkel was a closet Nazi trying to shock the Germans back into Nationalism.


Indeed. If Obama were blackmailing her, and she grew up with stories of the fall of Berlin turning into an open-air rape camp, would she do anything differently? Or would she "agree and amplify" so that the frog jumps out of the pot.

The Occam's Razor assumption is that she is exactly what she appears to be: a childless, barren virtue-signaler whose DNA is trying to get her involuntarily pregnant (even though it's too late for that). But it's so completely counter-productive that she might do exactly the same thing with an opposite motivation.

Blogger Noah B September 18, 2016 5:07 PM  

@7 I find that amazing, but obviously true. Here's a chance to stop an invasion with a vote, and people oppose it.

Anonymous Vermithrax Pejorative September 18, 2016 5:07 PM  

It would almost make better sense if Merkel was a closet Nazi trying to shock the Germans back into Nationalism.


“So much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don’t even know that fire is hot.”
- George Orwell

also:

“If you compare commercial advertising with political propaganda, one thing that strikes you is its relative intellectual honesty. The advertiser at least knows what he is aiming at – that is, money – whereas the propagandist, when he is not a lifeless hack, is often a neurotic working off a private grudge and actually desirous of the exact opposite of the thing he advocates.”
- George Orwell

Anonymous Unamused Flyover Resident September 18, 2016 5:07 PM  

@12

Someone's getting revenge for 20th century (and earlier) events, but I don't think it's the Arabs.

I see way too much (((gloating))) about the demise of Europe and Europeans to think that Arabs are anything but pawns.

Blogger ZhukovG September 18, 2016 5:20 PM  

For some reason the Globalists feel they must move boldly. They had been winning for decades by moving slowly and with great caution, tip toeing if you will, to avoid awakening any Nationalism in the West.

But now, in Europe and North America, they've become reckless.

Are they so confident of victory that they push now for the final battle? Does 'The Beast' come with wrath because he knows the time is short?

It isn't Trump, the Globalist blitzkrieg began months before he was even a blip on the radar.

Perhaps they just know that the game is up; the bill for the West's economic stupidity is coming due, and the only way any of 'them' avoid hanging from lampposts is to smash the game board.

OpenID paworldandtimes September 18, 2016 5:22 PM  

Nobody has "dirt" on Merkel, in the sense that she's being blackmailed. What kind of secret could possibly compel her to carry out such a biblical-scale treason? It's not like her nudist photos aren't all over the internet already.

If she were in fact blackmailed (with what -- a recording of her saying "Negger" in 1973?), she'd have gotten some advisors together, whose counsel would certainly NOT be "ok... go ahead and flood our country with human garbage, it's the best way."

PA

Anonymous BigGayKoranBurner September 18, 2016 5:23 PM  

Maybe we will get lucky and during Oktoberfest germans will all get drunk and there will be no moslems when its over.

For some reason the Globalists feel they must move boldly.

Their echo chambers lead them to think they have already won.

OpenID paworldandtimes September 18, 2016 5:24 PM  

Are they so confident of victory that they push now for the final battle? Does 'The Beast' come with wrath because he knows the time is short?

One prosaic scenario: most of the globalists are old and they want to do the touchdown dance before they die.

PA

Blogger Johnny September 18, 2016 5:37 PM  

What is so crazy about this stuff is that the outcome is so predictable. The choices are, mass deportation, or a really nasty civil war, or Islam swallows Europe whole.

Anonymous Godfrey September 18, 2016 5:42 PM  

"Merkel's centre-right Christian Democratic Union (CDU)"

Yeah... "centre-right". We live in a time where any political ideology right of Pol Pot is considered "right". The reality is that the totality of the West lives under far-left governments supported, directed, and funded by crony wealth globalists.

In the USSA the Democrats are far-left and the Republicans are left-center.

Blogger Cecil Henry September 18, 2016 5:43 PM  

Until Merkel (and other politicians and bureaucrats complicit in this invasion, treason and White Genocide) is tried, convicted and punished for this crime there is no justice.

Having the votes is NO excuse in Genocide.

Anonymous Godfrey September 18, 2016 5:45 PM  

@20

It's simple arrogant human nature. They want to see the dystopia established in their lifetimes.

Blogger Minecraft Chuck September 18, 2016 5:49 PM  

The answer is in the birthrates. Europe has a negative population growth. In order to maintain benefits, they need millions of young workers. The elites think that all the plebs are the same, and all can be controlled eventually. They truly don't care for their own people.

Why? Because they're not 'their won't people. Their people are the intelligentsia, who used to be the aristocracy, trained by generations of Marxists. They are used to dealing with peers and peasants. That's how they view the world. They see no practical difference between Christian and Muslim peasants. They just see peasants.

That's why the people aren't allowed to have guns. They might get ideas.

Blogger Johnny September 18, 2016 5:53 PM  

@28 Elites abandoning their own population is not all that uncommon. And the devil of it is that the plebs don't anticipate it happening. They end up learning the hard way, if they survive.

Blogger Tuatha September 18, 2016 5:57 PM  

Dear, VD:
Is it true that you want to replace all religions in the world with Christianity at any cost? Would you or not try to convert all members of Judaism, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, Sikhism, Shinto etc...by sword and gun if you had the ability? Would you call such a task of converting billions missionary work to save souls?
If yes to all these questions, would you be willing to sacrifice entire nations and ethnicities if they refused?

Blogger YIH September 18, 2016 6:07 PM  

Even a few months ago I was looking forward to the new NFL season. Now I look at NFL.com, and it just feels hollow.
I have to say I'm impressed with the Titans, they played the Vikes tough and they edged past the Lions.
Not ready for the playoffs, but they're making progress.
Let's see what happens tonight, this game could make the difference as to who wins the NFC North.
The Vikes need to get a serious passing game together to take the heat off All Day. As the Titans proved.

Blogger kurt9 September 18, 2016 6:12 PM  

Minecraft Chuck wrote:The answer is in the birthrates. Europe has a negative population growth. In order to maintain benefits, they need millions of young workers. The elites think that all the plebs are the same, and all can be controlled eventually. They truly don't care for their own people.

Why? Because they're not 'their won't people. Their people are the intelligentsia, who used to be the aristocracy, trained by generations of Marxists. They are used to dealing with peers and peasants. That's how they view the world. They see no practical difference between Christian and Muslim peasants. They just see peasants.

That's why the people aren't allowed to have guns. They might get ideas.


This is certainly credible. Add into it the notion that, because these elites are not themselves religious, they fail to appreciate the power and influence that religion has over those who believe in it.

Call it the Marie Antoinette syndrome (AKA head in cement syndrome).

Blogger Cecil Henry September 18, 2016 6:23 PM  

@31

Doing my part. Haven't watched a bit. Not a highlight, not a report, nothing.

No more, fed up with anti-White attitudes and implicit messages everywhere. This has to STOP.

Diversity means Chasing DOWN the last White person. No more. Enough.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Deplorable Cents September 18, 2016 6:25 PM  

Nobody has "dirt" on Merkel, in the sense that she's being blackmailed. What kind of secret could possibly compel her to carry out such a biblical-scale treason? It's not like her nudist photos aren't all over the internet already.

What else is in her STASI file? Whom did she betray / spy on / turncoat? I wager Soros knows.

Blogger YIH September 18, 2016 6:25 PM  

Just went back to NFL.com. There's Tim Meadows from SNL 25 years ago with a 'hipster' mustache and goatee. And some chick with bleach blond hair I don't even recognize.
This sucks, it seems the NFL is trying it's best to alienate it's long term fans.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents September 18, 2016 6:31 PM  

The answer is in the birthrates. Europe has a negative population growth. In order to maintain benefits, they need millions of young workers. The elites think that all the plebs are the same, and all can be controlled eventually.

Muh Tabula Rasa! Muh Tabula Rasa!

Yes, We Can replace highly educated Germans with goat screwing sub-normal IQ illiterates who marry their cousins!

Except when it doesn't work out that way.

Blogger tz September 18, 2016 6:32 PM  

Meanwhile in France some of their imports are joining ISIS

Anonymous PAC September 18, 2016 6:38 PM  

AfD currently tallied at just over 14% in Berlin.

Blogger Chris Mallory September 18, 2016 6:39 PM  

Tuatha wrote:Would you or not try to convert all members of Judaism, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, Sikhism, Shinto etc...by sword and gun

The Salvation of God comes from the conviction by the Holy Spirit, not the swords and guns of man.

Blogger ZhukovG September 18, 2016 7:40 PM  

@30 Tuatha (an ancient Celtic word for 'Tribe', wonder which one are you?), Your question shows that you know nothing about Vox or pretty much anyone else here. This group includes Jews, Atheists, Agnostics, probably one or two Pagans, though most are Christian of various flavors. So maybe you can figure it out yourself.

Anonymous Avalanche September 18, 2016 7:49 PM  

@20 "Are they so confident of victory that they push now for the final battle? ... It isn't Trump, the Globalist blitzkrieg began months before he was even a blip on the radar."

(((They))) have ALWAYS overstepped, pushed too hard, taken too much, moved too soon -- (instinctual?) avarice and arrogance drive them.

Why do you think EVERY nation and state has thrown (((them))) out? (((They))) go too far, too soon, and the mesmerized population awakens! OOPS for (((them)))!

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents September 18, 2016 7:59 PM  

Things are heating up in Germany, Someone set AfD head Frauke Petry's car on fire but maybe it's just the usual kebab car-barbeque?

Or maybe someone just upped the ante.

Blogger Johnny September 18, 2016 8:33 PM  

Tuatha wrote:Dear, VD:

Is it true that you want to replace all religions in the world with Christianity at any cost? Would you or not try to convert all members of Judaism, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, Sikhism, Shinto etc...by sword and gun if you had the ability? Would you call such a task of converting billions missionary work to save souls?

If yes to all these questions, would you be willing to sacrifice entire nations and ethnicities if they refused?


Speaking only for myself I can see hammering Islam with whatever is necessary because I see it as evil and a threat. Otherwise my preference would be to leave the more sensible alternatives to Christianity alone.

Anonymous Ronnie September 18, 2016 8:34 PM  

@35

No sense in watching street trash niggers running up and down a patch of grass anyhow.

Blogger Tuatha September 18, 2016 8:39 PM  

"Tuatha (an ancient Celtic word for 'Tribe', wonder which one are you?)"

My tribe, if you could call it that, would be those descended straight from the 13 British colonies, who in turn are descended from Englishmen, Scots, and Hessians.

Blogger Tuatha September 18, 2016 8:58 PM  

"The salvation of god comes from the conviction by the holy spirit, not the swords and guns of man."

Is that why so many were killed for not converting? Did the unarmed saxons of Verden slaughtered by Charlemagne convert because of this "holy spirit", or did their nation convert only after they were killed for upholding their own tradition against a foreign creed? This was after a 32-year war which led to more casualties on the christian side than the pagan. In the end it was only a force of blades that brought Christianity to Saxony. Not even the writings of the Frankish scribes mention anything about a spirit. Only a conquest of many against few.

Anonymous Wyrd the Adorable Deplorable September 18, 2016 9:02 PM  

Tuatha de Danaan is ancient Celtic for Rum, Sodomy, and the Lash.

Anonymous BGKB September 18, 2016 9:23 PM  

OT:Leftists embrace conversion therapy http://louderwithcrowder.com/france-hoping-terrorists-volunteer-de-radicalized/#.V91atfkrKUk

Even a few months ago I was looking forward to the new NFL season. Now I look at NFL.com, and it just feels hollow

Keep it up Colon Kirkpatrick

Tuatha de Danaan is ancient Celtic for Rum, Sodomy, and the Lash.

Don't know why so many wanted the lash.

Blogger Mountain Man September 18, 2016 9:28 PM  

Looks like if Trump is elected the hardest part of our problem will take care itself. No demands necessary.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/273036-poll-more-than-1-in-4-would-consider-leaving-us-if-trump-wins

The next step of deportation will be easy. They all are some shade of brown and live in enclaves within urban areas. Just round them up and bus them out.

Blogger residentMoron September 18, 2016 9:43 PM  

Too many west germans still believe. Still believe their political class, still believe their newspapers, still believe it's not as bad as the right claim.

East germans have recent and hard experience of the lying treachery of politicians, of newspapers, of immigrants.

They don't believe.

That's why Pegida is the government in waiting of eastern Germany and is growing slowly in the west.

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable September 18, 2016 9:50 PM  

A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents wrote:Yes, We Can replace highly educated Germans with goat screwing sub-normal IQ illiterates who marry their cousins!

I believe this is the fundamental failure of globalism. And it isn't just that they don't recognize the differences between different peoples; they made that mistake because they don't respect the intelligence that is needed for physical jobs.

There are many blue-collar jobs that pay more than managerial jobs, because they require both good bodies and good minds, e.g. the diesel mechanic who revives a big truck in the middle of nowhere in the middle of the night, so that it can continue hauling its load in our just-in-time supply chain.

Our so-called elites will eventually be strung up from lampposts because of some simple mistakes. They failed to respect the true intelligence of the working class, let alone recognize the under-employment of the hyper-intelligent, so they thought they could control everything with social engineering. And as with any trend that must end, they were only right until they were wrong.

Anonymous BGKB September 18, 2016 10:08 PM  

So my taxes are paying for welfare moslems to buy COLD STEEL knives http://www.vdare.com/posts/cold-steel-kopis-machete-in-calgary-mall-attack-by-raceless-nameless-person

Blogger residentMoron September 18, 2016 10:17 PM  

Raceleds, nameless, creedless.

Next time anyone tries to tell you we should tolerate everyone regardless of race, creed, or origin, remember this.

Blogger The Other Robot September 18, 2016 10:58 PM  

Maybe the immigrants believe that there is no such thing as rape culture.

Blogger bob k. mando ( the hardest troll here ) September 18, 2016 11:06 PM  

46. Tuatha September 18, 2016 8:58 PM
Is that why so many were killed for not converting? Did the unarmed saxons of Verden slaughtered by Charlemagne convert because of this "holy spirit", or did their nation convert only after they were killed for upholding their own tradition against a foreign creed?



bawhahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

sugartits, you sure had to dig deep to find a 'conversion by the sword' story for Christianity, didn't you?

and had to ignore 1500 years of Muslim history while you were digging.

gosh, hey, you notice that Charlemagne was a KING and not POPE? shucks darn, i wonder if that has any application here?

Blogger bob k. mando ( the hardest troll here ) September 18, 2016 11:10 PM  

48. BGKB September 18, 2016 9:23 PM
Don't know why so many wanted the lash.



it feels so good when you stop.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY September 18, 2016 11:33 PM  

30. Tuatha
PROJECT MUCH ?
Good grief.

Blogger haus frau September 19, 2016 12:24 AM  

@46 uatha September 18, 2016 8:58 PM
Is that why so many were killed for not converting? Did the unarmed saxons of Verden slaughtered by Charlemagne convert because of this "holy spirit", or did their nation convert only after they were killed for upholding their own tradition against a foreign creed?


This guy sounds like so many atheists that dismiss atheism's responsibility for massacring millions because it wasn't done in the name of atheism but want to blame Christianity for the Holocaust because Hitler campaigned as a good, upstanding Lutheran. Idiot.
Leaders that claim the mantle of Christianity have always done what they found most expedient. That doesn't mean there actions are endorsed anywhere in scripture. One must be born again in Christ of their own free will to be Christian. There is no doctrine of Christian conversion by force. Funny how you need to dig all the way back to Charlemagne to find that little episode but managed to completely skip the Islamic history of conquest, forced conversion, enslavement and massacre which is expressly endorsed in the Koran.

Anonymous Deplorable Jack Amok September 19, 2016 1:14 AM  

Obvious troll is obvious.

And ugly.

Blogger Tuatha September 19, 2016 1:30 AM  

"you sure had to dig deep to find a 'conversion by the sword' story for Christianity, didn't you? and had to ignore 1500 years of Muslim history while you were digging. gosh, hey, you notice that Charlemagne was a KING and not POPE? shucks darn, i wonder if that has any application here?

Fag, do not realise in that tiny excuse of a malformed braincase of yours, that I NEVER wrote anywhere that charlemagne was pope? To think you had to put words on top of mine to actually reply. I bet you think you're real swell and dandy. Am I right or am I right?
I could find more well-known horror stories like the fucking spanish inquisition and the witch burnings for example, but it seems you're just too blank in the head to realise that 'god' you worship is the same middle-eastern shitturd allah under another name?. I dare you to say otherwise. Bearing in mind, you are addressing someone who knows far more than you with more information than you could ever understand.

Blogger N Matheson September 19, 2016 1:36 AM  

That's why the people aren't allowed to have guns. They might get ideas.

The second amendment was nerfed into futility in 1934, and 1986. Look at the basic kit a 2nd or third rate sooldier of even geurilla carries then what a U.S. citizen can have. It's better than nothing but the internet is making me think it gives Americans a false sense of security.

Like many here, I am surprised at how low support for AfD is, I'm glad to see it is growing. Also keen to hear VD's take on the situation in Italy.

Anonymous Tar Heel September 19, 2016 1:46 AM  

"Fag [...]"

Go back to /pol/, kid. You're too short for this ride.

Blogger Tuatha September 19, 2016 1:55 AM  

"atheism's responsibility for massacring millions because it wasn't done in the name of atheism"
You mean like the Holodomor and the Red Terror? Which were caused by communism? You seem to be unaware that atheism was only a part of the Communist system and that it was only there as a tool to destroy tradition. Atheism by itself [not when combined with an ideology] has never caused any massacre. The commies and marxists are not representative of all atheists.

Also,
I am a deist. So please dont assume I'm playing the atheist card.

Anonymous dagwood September 19, 2016 1:57 AM  

A) "I could find more well-known horror stories like the fucking spanish inquisition and the witch burnings for example,"

then we get

B) "you are addressing someone who knows far more than you with more information than you could ever understand."

The astounding shallowness of Claim A) completely falsifies Claim B).

This is getting really boring. Is Soros going broke or something?

Blogger bob k. mando ( the hardest troll here ) September 19, 2016 1:58 AM  

60. Tuatha September 19, 2016 1:30 AM
I could find more well-known horror stories


oh? well have at it, then. let's see what you've got.


60. Tuatha September 19, 2016 1:30 AM
like the fucking spanish inquisition



bawhahahahahahahahahaha.

sugartits, that wasn't "conversion by the sword".

the Inquisition was ( especially the Spanish one ) used to uncover those who were FALSELY claiming to have already converted.

and, given that the Jews were expelled from Spain for the rather obvious crime of Treason ( throwing open the gates of cities so that the muslim Turks could murder and slave ), it's hard to see where the Spanish were wrong to be concerned about it.


60. Tuatha September 19, 2016 1:30 AM
I dare you to say otherwise.



otherwise.

more specifically, the Muslims themselves claim otherwise, you fuckwit.

go on, explain to a Muslim how Jesus Christ is a member of the Trinity with Allah the Father and the Holy Spirit.

i. fucking. dare. you.



60. Tuatha September 19, 2016 1:30 AM
Bearing in mind, you are addressing someone who knows far more than you with more information than you could ever understand.



ow, my sides, they hurt so much.

the point about Charlemagne not being Pope, little one, is that that particular instance of 'conversion by the sword' was not actually Church policy.

that was the policy of the secular king. oops.

783 AD: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_of_Verden

800 AD: crowned Holy Roman Emperor


now, yes indeed there HAVE been other instances of 'sword conversion'. there are also instances of genocide carried out by the RCC. but i'm not going to do your heavy lifting for you.

it is rather amusing to watch you stumbling and bumbling around though.


here, i'll help you out with the type of quote you were hoping to obtain when you first came blitzing in here covering us all with your projected ignorance:
i'm sure we'll have room in the oven for you after we've gotten done shoveling the Juden in. but i'm afraid you're just going to have to wait your turn.

Blogger Tuatha September 19, 2016 2:00 AM  

"go back to /pol/"

what to know something hilarious? I never even heard of that place before you mentioned it. Nice try at deduction.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 19, 2016 2:10 AM  

I am a deist. So please dont assume I'm playing the atheist card.
No, you're a fucking moron. Your ignorance if Christianity is exceeded only by your ignorace of history, and the number of dicks in your ass.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 19, 2016 2:15 AM  

But you are more informed than we are?
Listen up boy. You can't play this game by wanting to. You have to make a minimal effort. Something, anything, really. Put some fucking effort into it.

As it is you're just pathetic.

Blogger dfordoom September 19, 2016 2:18 AM  

@Tuatha

I could find more well-known horror stories like the fucking spanish inquisition

The Spanish Inquisition had nothing to do with forced conversions. Moslems and Jews were given a choice. They could convert or leave. Many chose to leave. They were free to do so.

The purpose of the Spanish Inquisition was to ensure that the conversions were genuine, because many were not. The number of people actually executed was tiny. The Spanish Inquisition went out of its way to avoid such drastic measures. The idea that the Spanish Inquisition was a horrific crime against humanity is pure myth.

and the witch burnings for example

They happened but they were small-scale and sporadic. Again the popular idea of the witch burnings is wildly exaggerated.

I'm certainly no apologist for Christianity, a religion for which I have little respect. On the other hand I'm not an anti-Christian bigot.

Blogger dfordoom September 19, 2016 2:20 AM  

@Tuatha

The commies and marxists are not representative of all atheists.

Not All Atheists Are Like That!

But apparently All Christians Are Like That.

Blogger bob k. mando ( the hardest troll here ) September 19, 2016 2:29 AM  

aye, they always cast broad generalizations at everyone else at the same time that they squeal like stuck pigs if you don't shave them gradations finer than a cunt hair.

Blogger bob k. mando ( the hardest troll here ) September 19, 2016 2:36 AM  

60. Tuatha September 19, 2016 1:30 AM
Bearing in mind, you are addressing someone who knows far more than you with more information than you could ever understand.

66. Tuatha September 19, 2016 2:00 AM
what to know something hilarious? I never even heard of that place before you mentioned it.



you know, it's odd?

for someone with "with more information than you could ever understand", you certainly are an ignorant little shit.

Anon has been making international headlines for years now, you buffoon.

either you're lying about not knowing what /pol is or you aren't tall enough to internet.

https://therealstrategy.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/anonymous-hacks-global-stock-exchange-opicarus.jpg

Blogger Tuatha September 19, 2016 2:49 AM  

"that wasn't 'conversion by the sword'"

You are totally right! It was savin' those poor souls from fiery damnation by the best methods possible. Which in the hands of god's men meant; crushed skulls, breasts torn off, a pear-shaped apparatus thrusted into vaginas, pulling tendons and bones on the rack, and most beautiful of all, a sharp pyramid pressed through the lower parts--penis balls and anus an unrecognizable bloody mess!
Who needs a sword after subjugating a nation? Those good ol' church boys knew it was time for some fun and they knew even during the 15th century that some people were intelligent enough to doubt an invisible specter so plenty to satisfy themselves!
"Oh you don't believe the salvation of the crucifixion? We shall make your arms go pop! and your bleeding scrotum is a blessing to make you understand how all-loving the Father is. May you live in eternal happiness after the fire at your execution!"

That is what happens after the sword. Then it was decided more was necessary to show what eternal love meant.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 19, 2016 2:56 AM  

Tuatha has read the Black Legend. Good for him. Does he know it's a pack of lies?
Can't be! People never lied in the past!

Look you little faggot. You're not just ignorant, you've filled the aching void in your head with every falsehood you could dig up. You've reached the apitheosis if ignorance. You're so ignorant that when you die, the sum total of knowledge will increase. And the rate of AIDS infection will decrease. So do us a favir and hurry it up.

Blogger bob k. mando ( the hardest troll here ) September 19, 2016 2:58 AM  

69. dfordoom September 19, 2016 2:18 AM
They happened but they were small-scale and sporadic.



a more salient refutation to his actual point: witch trials are ALSO not attempts at 'sword conversion'. at Salem, for instance, once convicted of witchcraft you WERE getting killed. various of the convicted witches went to the gallows reciting the Lord's Prayer and proclaiming their Christianity. it availed them naught.

<20 executed at Salem.

"It were better that Ten Suspected Witches should escape, than that one Innocent Person should be Condemned"


so, EVERY SINGLE ONE of his 'sword conversion' examples was explicitly NOT what he claimed it to be.

screwing up one or two examples, that can be attributed to simple sloppiness.

screwing up EVERY example? that's a rare talent, there.

Blogger Tuatha September 19, 2016 3:01 AM  

It has been fun with you fine gentlemen, yet it appears my initial inquiry has been unanswered. Has vox ran to find other stuff, or is he a little shy of a moderately large-headed dolicocephalic like myself? Dick jokes are not my thing, but I am usually a polite fellow and just wanted an answer from the man himself. His minions' remarks are unfortunately, not what I requested.
If someone could kindly get him on the line, I would be done. Thanks to the one able to retrieve him from his chamber.

Blogger bob k. mando ( the hardest troll here ) September 19, 2016 3:04 AM  

73. Tuatha September 19, 2016 2:49 AM
You are totally right! It was savin' those poor souls from fiery damnation



you just don't know when to quit.

they were NOT killed to "save their souls". they were considered already bequeathed to Satan and to be BEYOND REDEMPTION.

they were killed in order to prevent further harm ( they were being accused of casting spells and causing sickness ) to the community at large. also to prevent them from tempting others to join Satan.

that the accusations were false in the first place is a different question.

the bald fact is that no attempt was made or offer extended ( at Salem, anyways ) for any convicted witch to "convert" to Christianity.

therefore, your citation of a Witch Trial as an example of 'sword conversion' is blatantly idiotic.

Blogger bob k. mando ( the hardest troll here ) September 19, 2016 3:07 AM  

76. Tuatha September 19, 2016 3:01 AM
If someone could kindly get him on the line




his contact info is right there on the web page, dumbshit.

only a toddler would expect someone to be awake 24/7 in order to answer his tantrums.

Blogger Franz Lionheart September 19, 2016 3:18 AM  

MMW - Merkel muss weg.

Anonymous Down and Out in... September 19, 2016 3:21 AM  

"or is he a little shy of a moderately large-headed dolicocephalic like myself?"

Look, Ma, I learned a big word!!

I was driving around one of the more gnarly copping spots down around Large Notorious Downtown Sports Center and I scoped a bunch of Soros recruiters trying to hire the junkies and the heads to troll for him, for like pennies on the dollar. Guy must have made some bad bets lately, if he's got Tuatha working for him. I almost volunteered to try it myself, just out of curiosity... but then again, man, I really needed to score.

Blogger Noah B September 19, 2016 3:23 AM  

Paris sera toujours Paris!

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable September 19, 2016 3:24 AM  

Tuatha wrote:I could find more well-known horror stories like the fucking spanish inquisition and the witch burnings for example, but it seems you're just too blank in the head to realise that 'god' you worship is the same middle-eastern shitturd allah under another name?. I dare you to say otherwise. Bearing in mind, you are addressing someone who knows far more than you with more information than you could ever understand.

You bloody retard. The whole point of the Inquisition and witch burnings was to root out fake Christians. Because Jews and Muslims and pagans have religious exceptions that give them license to lie and pretend "How do you do, fellow Christians." We're the only people who think that lying is a sin.

So you here you are, both trying to draw a false equivalence between forced conversion and rooting out liars, and also posing like you're the smart guy. Wow.

Blogger Shimshon September 19, 2016 3:27 AM  

@40 ZhukovG, I see (((Jews))) are first in the list...

Blogger Tuatha September 19, 2016 3:53 AM  

"his contact info is right there on the web page, dumbshit."
Why, thank you Son. A real pleasure you have been, self-declared "hardest troll here".

Anonymous Down and Out in... September 19, 2016 4:00 AM  

"Why, thank you Son."

This lame-demeaning 'son' bidniss was positively old way back in early Johnny Cash days. By the time we got around to "the debbil came down to Georgia" it was ancient history. Can you einsteins busy dueling wif a ball peen hammer please come up wif a rejoinder that's actually entertaining?

Blogger Shimshon September 19, 2016 4:18 AM  

Tuatha, didn't you say goodbye? Back so soon?

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable September 19, 2016 4:31 AM  

Down and Out in... wrote:This lame-demeaning 'son' bidniss was positively old way back in early Johnny Cash days.

So if you know that, then do better. Hit back twice as hard with "you precious chile, bless your heart." Complaining is losing. Fight and win, or shut up.

Blogger bob k. mando ( the hardest troll here ) September 19, 2016 4:35 AM  

86. Shimshon September 19, 2016 4:18 AM
Tuatha, didn't you say goodbye? Back so soon?



Tuatha, just so you know? Shimshon is one of those Juden we need to shovel into an oven.

you can see we're running a bit behind. i hope you don't mind the wait.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 19, 2016 6:00 AM  

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Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 19, 2016 6:08 AM  

Tuatha,
Your questions are as dishonest as your idiot attempts at thought. You read 18th century torture porn and thought it was real. And then he read it again. And one more time. And maybe again to make sure you got it. No one has to know you rubbed one out. Or two.

Best call the Coast Guard to report the crew and passengers of the Minnow are castaway!

Blogger Joe Keenan September 19, 2016 6:25 AM  

No one ever expects the Spanish Inquisition! I suspect that Tuatha, like many people, got their education regarding the SI from Monty Python and the writings of Montanus. Both poor sources of historical information, though the Pythons were funny....sometimes. Many have commented on the Black Myth some other interesting facts regarding the SI. Because, it's rules of evidence were so strict, people would often blaspheme in civil court to get the trial moved to an Inquisition court. The Inquisition did not hunt witches (as the Inquisition did not believe in witches), witches were persecuted in Protestant countries. If witch trials occurred in Spain they were suppressed by the Inquisition. As mentioned by others, the Inquisition was set up to root out Marrano's false converts to Christianity. See, Netanyanhu (Bibi's dad), and Kamen in particular. Interested readers might also want to see, The Myth of the Andalusian Paradise, for an examination of the myth of Islamic tolerance.

Blogger ZhukovG September 19, 2016 8:43 AM  

@83 Shimshon Well I don't think I spoke falsely. There are Jews who comment here and I don't recall any of us threatening; convert or die.

I am Alt-Right of the Alt-West persuasion. Like Vox, I don't believe there is a coordinated Jewish conspiracy against the Gentile Nations. I understand why Jews are suspicious of Nationalism and find themselves attracted to Globalism.

Globalists are my enemy, not the Jews. Unfortunately many Jews are Globalists. I also think Jews who support Globalism are making a terrible mistake as not only will that cause problems for Jews in Gentile countries, but will also sour Gentiles against the State of Israel.

I conclude that Globalist Jews are a greater threat to Israel than any collection of Arab States.

Blogger Shimshon September 19, 2016 9:00 AM  

@92 No need to get defensive. It was meant to be humorous. Sorry man...

Blogger ZhukovG September 19, 2016 9:20 AM  

@93 I did not mean to sound defensive. Nor did I take any offense at your comment. Internet commenting sometimes lacks something in the communication department.

I did try to convey my frustration at the fact that, by pursuing Globalism, some Jews are doing something that I believe will cause great harm their Nation.

Blogger bob k. mando ( the hardest troll here ) September 19, 2016 10:09 AM  

94. ZhukovG September 19, 2016 9:20 AM
I did not mean to sound defensive. Nor did I take any offense at your comment. Internet commenting sometimes lacks something in the communication department.



guys? guys?

can we all just not get along?

Tuatha is here to secure quotes of "Christian Supremacy", the better to demonstrate how deplorable we are.

as gracious hosts, shouldn't we give it too him, good and hard?

Blogger Shimshon September 19, 2016 10:23 AM  

@94 Cognitive Dissonance is powerful. I'd say most Jews who support Western immigration also support restrictions to same when it comes to Israel. They can be reached to some degree. I've experienced this myself. A small minority want to destroy the Jewish nature of Israel as much as they want to destroy the Christian nature of the west. There's obviously no reasoning with them at all.

Blogger Were-Puppy September 19, 2016 1:39 PM  

A Diversion Troll, haven't seen that lately

Blogger Were-Puppy September 19, 2016 1:40 PM  

https://i.imgflip.com/1avskx.jpg

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey September 19, 2016 2:04 PM  

Someone's triggered...

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey September 19, 2016 2:06 PM  

/pol/? Hardly. More like reddit. Or NRO...

Anonymous SumDood September 19, 2016 2:09 PM  

"Nobody has "dirt" on Merkel, in the sense that she's being blackmailed. What kind of secret could possibly compel her to carry out such a biblical-scale treason? It's not like her nudist photos aren't all over the internet already.

What else is in her STASI file? Whom did she betray / spy on / turncoat? I wager Soros knows."


Merkel WAS the Stasi. Which doesn't give me much hope that her file will be illuminating.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2014/07/03/how-close-was-young-communist-merkel-to-east-german-regime-americans-want-to-know/

And rumor has it that she was the product of the rape campaign waged by the Soviets in post-WW2 Germany. If so, why wouldn't her behavior be attributable to that?

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey September 19, 2016 2:11 PM  

/pol/? Hardly. More like reddit. Or NRO...

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey September 19, 2016 2:12 PM  

Someone's triggered...

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd September 19, 2016 4:05 PM  

Tuatha wrote: ... oodles of silly crap ...

This is one of the most responded-to trolls we've fallen for in a while. If Soros is paying it for the insults it draws, it will take an extra bottle of Mad Dog under the bridge with it tonight.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents September 19, 2016 8:41 PM  

Now Sau Merkel says she would do it differently if she could.

“If I could, I would rewind time by many, many years so that I could better prepare myself and the whole government and all those in positions of responsibility for the situation that caught us unprepared in the late summer of 2015,” Ms Merkel said.

The chancellor also distanced herself from her phrase — “Wir schaffen das — we can do it” — which captured Germans’ belief last summer in their capacity to integrate the newly arrived refugees. She said it had become “a simple slogan, almost an empty formula” that underestimated the scale of the integration challenge.


Too late to apologize. Much too late.

Blogger bob k. mando ( the hardest troll here ) September 20, 2016 2:08 AM  

104. Ominous Cowherd September 19, 2016 4:05 PM
This is one of the most responded-to trolls we've fallen for in a while.



i meet people like this IRL on a fairly regular basis. i think the bumbling idiocy ( can't find the email? ) actually sets him off as more likely to be deranged than a knowing troll.

although, that could be feigned as well ...

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