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Wednesday, September 07, 2016

The incoherence of conservatism

I don't know who "Publius Decius Mus" is, except in the Samnite War sense, but this is the best article I have ever read at the Claremont Institute. It very clearly makes the case for the need for the Alt-Right, if not for the Alt-Right per se. And in doing so, it also underlines the petty narcissism of the dwindling #NeverTrump crowd:
If conservatives are right about the importance of virtue, morality, religious faith, stability, character and so on in the individual; if they are right about sexual morality or what came to be termed “family values”; if they are right about the importance of education to inculcate good character and to teach the fundamentals that have defined knowledge in the West for millennia; if they are right about societal norms and public order; if they are right about the centrality of initiative, enterprise, industry, and thrift to a sound economy and a healthy society; if they are right about the soul-sapping effects of paternalistic Big Government and its cannibalization of civil society and religious institutions; if they are right about the necessity of a strong defense and prudent statesmanship in the international sphere—if they are right about the importance of all this to national health and even survival, then they must believe—mustn’t they?—that we are headed off a cliff.

But it’s quite obvious that conservatives don’t believe any such thing, that they feel no such sense of urgency, of an immediate necessity to change course and avoid the cliff. A recent article by Matthew Continetti may be taken as representative—indeed, almost written for the purpose of illustrating the point. Continetti inquires into the “condition of America” and finds it wanting. What does Continetti propose to do about it? The usual litany of “conservative” “solutions,” with the obligatory references to decentralization, federalization, “civic renewal,” and—of course!—Burke. Which is to say, conservatism’s typical combination of the useless and inapt with the utopian and unrealizable. Decentralization and federalism are all well and good, and as a conservative, I endorse them both without reservation. But how are they going to save, or even meaningfully improve, the America that Continetti describes? What can they do against a tidal wave of dysfunction, immorality, and corruption? “Civic renewal” would do a lot of course, but that’s like saying health will save a cancer patient. A step has been skipped in there somewhere. How are we going to achieve “civic renewal”? Wishing for a tautology to enact itself is not a strategy.

Continetti trips over a more promising approach when he writes of “stress[ing] the ‘national interest abroad and national solidarity at home’ through foreign-policy retrenchment, ‘support to workers buffeted by globalization,’ and setting ‘tax rates and immigration levels’ to foster social cohesion." That sounds a lot like Trumpism. But the phrases that Continetti quotes are taken from Ross Douthat and Reihan Salam, both of whom, like Continetti, are vociferously—one might even say fanatically—anti-Trump. At least they, unlike Kesler, give Trump credit for having identified the right stance on today’s most salient issues. Yet, paradoxically, they won’t vote for Trump whereas Kesler hints that he will. It’s reasonable, then, to read into Kesler’s esoteric endorsement of Trump an implicit acknowledgment that the crisis is, indeed, pretty dire. I expect a Claremont scholar to be wiser than most other conservative intellectuals, and I am relieved not to be disappointed in this instance.

Yet we may also reasonably ask: What explains the Pollyanna-ish declinism of so many others? That is, the stance that Things-Are-Really-Bad—But-Not-So-Bad-that-We-Have-to-Consider-Anything-Really-Different! The obvious answer is that they don’t really believe the first half of that formulation. If so, like Chicken Little, they should stick a sock in it. Pecuniary reasons also suggest themselves, but let us foreswear recourse to this explanation until we have disproved all the others.

Whatever the reason for the contradiction, there can be no doubt that there is a contradiction. To simultaneously hold conservative cultural, economic, and political beliefs—to insist that our liberal-left present reality and future direction is incompatible with human nature and must undermine society—and yet also believe that things can go on more or less the way they are going, ideally but not necessarily with some conservative tinkering here and there, is logically impossible.

Let’s be very blunt here: if you genuinely think things can go on with no fundamental change needed, then you have implicitly admitted that conservatism is wrong. Wrong philosophically, wrong on human nature, wrong on the nature of politics, and wrong in its policy prescriptions. Because, first, few of those prescriptions are in force today. Second, of the ones that are, the left is busy undoing them, often with conservative assistance. And, third, the whole trend of the West is ever-leftward, ever further away from what we all understand as conservatism.
One thing that I expect has become clear to most readers here, whether of the Alt-Right or the conservative persuasion, is that conservatism is utterly unequipped to deal with the current situation. Even if conservatism were a coherent ideology - it isn't, read Cuckservative - or if it were not partially culpable for the current situation - and it is - conservatives are both intellectually unarmed and emotionally unprepared to deal with the ongoing transition from ideology politics to identity politics.

A favorite phrase of mine is, "let reason be silent when experience gainsays its conclusions." Conservatives correctly point out the ways in which American liberalism, Leftism, and progressivism all fail the test of experience. However, conservatives completely fail to recognize their own pie-in-the-sky thinking when they appeal to Magic Dirt, Magic Words, and the Zeroth Amendment. They do not understand the significance of the Supreme Court's version of the US Constitution not being the same as the original written version of the Constitution, they are unaware that most immigrants, children of immigrants, and grandchildren of immigrants neither know nor care what any version of "the Constitution" is, says, or represents, and they ignore the very purpose of the Constitution as laid out in the Preamble.

Most importantly, they elevate a single phrase from the Declaration of Independence, a meaninglessly utopian piece of rhetoric which is not only contradicted by the Preamble, the Constitution, the Federalist Papers, and the acts of the First Congress, but by subsequent phrases in the Declaration itself, and proclaim it to be the foundational core of both state and nation. To conservatives, "all men are created equal" is a Magic Spell of unlimited potency that is not only, contra literally ALL the evidence, historically definitional, but can even be invoked to instantly transform any individual, tribe, people, or nation into Americans.

However, neither the Magic Spell nor the Magic Words prevented the Civil War, or if you prefer, the Second War for Independence. And the Magic Words will not prevent Round Two, or if you prefer, the Third War for Independence, or what is considerably more likely to be the free-for-all that follows the general collapse of the US central state. Very few saw the Soviet collapse coming, and I expect even fewer genuinely see the US collapse coming, despite the profiteering of opportunistic media doomsayers who have never seen an Apocalypse, a Ragnarok, or a Rapture they didn't like.

Where conservatism has proven intrinsically fragile and self-contradictory, the Alt-Right is anti-fragile and intellectually consistent. A nation has considerably more ruin in it than a state; the state cannot survive long without a single dominant nation but as the Jews, the Kurds, and many other peoples have proved, a nation can survive indefinitely without a state. The architects of 4GW theory and the globalists alike have chronicled the way in which we are coming to the end of the Westphalian period where the state held a monopoly on violence. Therefore, it should surprise no one that as the international state system is in the process of coming to an end, the ideology politics that arose within it and subsequently dominated it should also be in decline.

So, conservatism is not merely incoherent, it is now as entirely irrelevant as a biplane during the Battle of Britain. Neither a Balanced Budget Amendment nor pledging undying loyalty to AIPAC nor deciding to "rededicate ourselves to the notion of liberty for which generations of Americans fought and died" are going to even begin to address the implications of the post-Westphalian shift to identity politics, much less prevent the collapse of the USA.

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117 Comments:

Anonymous Sazerac September 07, 2016 5:17 AM  

Good Points. I used to think nationalism (or physical identity) was robust, but after further thought realised I was wrong and that it is indeed anti-fragile whilst all the other ideologies built on top of it, in a way, are fragile. When the system starts to break, identity re-assets itself.

In a way it is the Hydra, not the Phoenix that Mr Taleb referred to. It will grow back a head whether that head is regional, national or racial. The globalists tried to cut it down whilst it slept but failed so now we get to see how competent they are at cutting off heads quicker than new ones can grow. Their legitimacy rests on a monopoly of violence (as well as debt based wealth), which as it is becoming clearer every day they are losing control over. Let the beast tear them to shreds.

Anonymous JAG September 07, 2016 5:18 AM  

Great article. One disagreement I have, though, is that many of these same "conservatives" that are #NeverTrump are not admitting that conservatism has failed by their support of Hillary and the status quo. They are frauds who were never "conservative" to begin with. Perhaps they thought they were, or perhaps they were in it for the financial opportunities, but no true conservative (or Scotsman) would ever support a demonic entity such as the Lizard Queen.

When I was a conservative the notion of supporting someone like Hillary was totally repugnant. I could not do so any more than I could sell my soul to the devil. I held my nose and voted McCain and Romney rather than another demonic entity known as "Obama".

The masks have slipped clean off their faces.

Anonymous Scott Steiner September 07, 2016 5:34 AM  

You know they say all men are created equal, but when you look at me and you look at Samoa Joe, you can see that statement is NOT TRUE!

Blogger Leo Littlebook in Shenzhen September 07, 2016 5:48 AM  

Clearly they don't care about America.

I suspect one might get more traction telling them how fast Mexico will vanish once there's no Daddy Fed to hold the Southron's leash.

Blogger Lovekraft September 07, 2016 5:52 AM  

Pursuing wealth by any means is one end of the spectrum. The other end is virtue-signalling/white guilt multiculturalism.

Somewhere in the middle is the alt-right. Turning away from greed and selfish individualism towards a limited expenditure of our compassion.

Broken empathy in pursuit of false desires is a fatal flaw.

Blogger Sillon Bono September 07, 2016 5:59 AM  

As a non-american person, but with experience with conservatives in Europe...

Some thoughts:

Conservatives think that pandering to get the approval of the Left, so the left's voters do not think wrong of them.

Then what ensues is that conservatives in Europe have become Light-left in the hope that they are better portrayed in the media, then what happens is that the media generally ignores them, so they become "Left" to the right of the "Left", voluntarily allowing people in their ranks who clearly do not belong in a conservative movement of any kind.

Eventually none of that works and they are still shunned by the media at large, only being portrayed in good light when they go to the left of the left for causes that are convenient for the left to agitate at a given point.

Conservatives are afraid to fight because oh the horror, they may win and somebody somewhere may not like it and god forbid, call them racist.

What pisses me off of conservatives is how high they think about themselves, they consider themselves intellectually and morally superior... in achieving nothing!

They are just mediocre average-corrupt politicians for the most part that aren't even good as virtue signaling.

A Fag like Milo (Yes a FAG! so what?) in an interview telling a stupid journalist that people have the right to express an opinion about whatever the fuck we want, is more conservative and has more guts than the current conservative establishment in its totality.

I would never dream hearing an establishment conservative here in Europe saying anything like that ever! think about the children!

All the people I know with half a brain are undergoing profound changes in the way they think due to the Alt-Right.

The first step is not providing solutions to anything, the first step is talking about the problems and voicing them, one can't solve the things that can't be talked about.

In that regard the Alt-Right is already occupying a space the Conservatives have left empty and abandoned.

From there only growth of mindset can be expected, we all may not agree with everything everybody says in the Alt-Right space, but surely we allow something the mentally sclerotic globalist elites can't do anymore: Discuss things and have a laugh.

I'm scared about what damage the stupid Obama fraud can do in October to the internet at large.

I hope the internet will do what is designed to do (route around damage) but with the leftards you never know, they are capable of pulling an eye out of themselves to prove there is a one-eyed person in the room.

Blogger Gapeseed September 07, 2016 6:12 AM  

Perhaps conservatives ought to view the Alt-Right as a badly needed "bad cop" - a group that shifts the conversation and recasts conservatives formerly derided as Nazis by the unhinged Left as "good cops" - reasonable people offering reasonable solutions. After all, the Constitution and rule of law is, actually, quite reasonable.

Anonymous the management September 07, 2016 6:15 AM  

It is fascinating how fast the old shibboleths are unraveling, or simply never took hold among the younger generations.

The Baby Boomer cohort is still resistant, though. Recently ran into one proudly wearing a "W" hat. When asked what it meant, he said, with tears in his eyes, "The last honorable man to occupy the White House." I think their lingering wealth and comfort shields them from reality, and is a continuing factor in their loyalty to the old forms.

Blogger Stilicho September 07, 2016 6:22 AM  

It became cool for anyone who sought power or influence through the Republican party to call themselves "conservative" after Reagan's political ascendance. Reagan himself welcomed many such into the "big tent" GOP even though they belonged there less than an alley cat at the Westminster show. Others had infiltrated the right from the beginning (Kirk, Buckley, etc.). The core of what is now the alt right was always there, but they allowed their philosophy to be coopted and the conservative label degraded beyond repair. Now the patriots, the Christians, the Constitutionalists, the advocates of ordered liberty, et al are waking from the induced slumber brought on by the viperous cuckservatives in their midst and discovering that they are strong and quite opposed to their self-appointed "elite". Naturally, that poses an existential crisis for the cuckservatives, hence the never Trump crowd commands the tide to go out as the water rises around them.

Blogger Unknown September 07, 2016 6:24 AM  

Every time I see that "all men are created equal" phrase, I always append the unwritten but implied "under the law" to the end.

Not that the law means much of anything these days...

Blogger rumpole5 September 07, 2016 6:32 AM  

Publius nailed it: “[A] Hillary Clinton presidency is Russian Roulette with a semi-auto. With Trump, at least you can spin the cylinder and take your chances." or, as the Trumpster himself put it in another context: “What have you got to lose?"

Anonymous Opus September 07, 2016 6:35 AM  

A small point: although it is certainly the case that the Battle of Britain was fought between Hurricanes and Spitfires and their German counterpart, one particular bi-plane - a fighter bomber - was still in service in 1945 - the Fairey Swordfish indeed in 1940 and launched from H.M.S. Ark Royal it was a group of that same bi-plane that attacked and sank the Bismark.

Blogger VD September 07, 2016 6:42 AM  

A small point: although it is certainly the case that the Battle of Britain was fought between Hurricanes and Spitfires and their German counterpart, one particular bi-plane - a fighter bomber - was still in service in 1945 - the Fairey Swordfish indeed in 1940 and launched from H.M.S. Ark Royal it was a group of that same bi-plane that attacked and sank the Bismark.

That's an apt metaphor for conservatism today. It's not entirely without use; it may even be of occasional utility in taking out a harmless, outdated sacred cow of the Left, but it will have no impact on the ongoing war.

Blogger rumpole5 September 07, 2016 6:44 AM  

Trump will likely not restore our morals, culture, or constitution. However, Trump can at least get the damn skating rink finished. POST Republican Rome contributed more than a little to world civilization. Perhaps great things might be ahead for a post constitutional America.

Blogger Minecraft Chuck September 07, 2016 6:45 AM  

All men are created equal. And then they are born.

Equality under the law is dead. The Supreme Court signed the death certificate and stamped it in triplicate. Now we have identity/group law, just like the left wanted. Well, that just means it's time to build the biggest, meanest, loudest group. The Conservatives simply can&t comprehend that we're not playing the game by the rules as written anymore, but by an evolving, changing set of house rules instead.

OpenID simplytimothy September 07, 2016 6:47 AM  

This essay by Publius Decius Mus* serves as an admirable reply to that Protein Wisdom Goldstein fellow.


TL;DR version.

There is a crisis.
It is getting worse.
Conservatives have abetted it
Conservatives have funded it.
Conservatives refuse to reverse course on ideological and moral(!) grounds.
The crisis is terminal.
We, the #altright, will solve it ourselves our way.



*It is interesting to witness the proliferation of the nom de plume in the birth of the altright era; it parallels the American founding era.

Blogger weka September 07, 2016 6:59 AM  

@4 Clearly they don't care about America.
Why should I care about a federal state that bullies my nation? I'm not from the USA.

@6. Agree: the same delusion (if we are nice the left will like us) affects the Tories in the Commonwealth.

They will never like us. They hate anything good and true and beautiful and pure. If is better to call them out.

And if the truth is said by a degenerate fag then it is still the truth. Nihil ad hominem, and all that.

OpenID paworldandtimes September 07, 2016 7:03 AM  

their lingering wealth and comfort shields them from reality, and is a continuing factor in their loyalty to the old forms.

Certainly there's something to be said for staying anchored to something that doesn't fly with the changing winds. Unfortunately conservatives cling to the forms rather than to the substance of things worth holding on to. In contrast with them, we toss useless and obsolete forms aside to save the substance.

PA

Blogger JaimeInTexas September 07, 2016 7:04 AM  

Of no use on dogfighting for air supremacy.

And now, Johnny Horton's song worms in my brain.

Blogger Markku September 07, 2016 7:13 AM  

The new meme seems to be that Alt-Right is a mirror image of the left. Well, that is half true. The left has been winning, and doing nothing but winning, for decades now. Alt-Right is winning. So, very similar there. However, the left has been winning for evil ends, and Alt-Right for good ends.

But 50% correct from the cucks is pretty well done these days, considering.

Anonymous Philipp September 07, 2016 7:26 AM  

Best quote from the article:

"This is insane. This is the mark of a party, a society, a country, a people, a civilization that wants to die. Trump, alone among candidates for high office in this or in the last seven (at least) cycles, has stood up to say: I want to live. I want my party to live. I want my country to live. I want my people to live. I want to end the insanity."

Blogger American Spartan September 07, 2016 7:28 AM  

Vox, how do you think the release of info from Wikileaks will effect the 2016 race?

Do you think Assange has? Any reason to believe he is bluffing?

Blogger American Spartan September 07, 2016 7:38 AM  

Markku wrote:The new meme seems to be that Alt-Right is a mirror image of the left. Well, that is half true. The left has been winning, and doing nothing but winning, for decades now. Alt-Right is winning. So, very similar there. However, the left has been winning for evil ends, and Alt-Right for good ends.

But 50% correct from the cucks is pretty well done these days, considering.


This, say what you want about the left, but their ability to win (no matter how horrid and awful their goals, plans, and outcomes are) above all else is proof that "muh principles" is a losing set of handcuffs that binds the "right" or at least has so far...

The cucks are use to losing, they see it as a mandate, a requirement, they losers in life and refuse to be happy until everyone/better then them is drag down into the same pit of self hatred, misery, hopelessness, and self induced masochism.

Lucky the cucks are finished, they have no audience left, whites can no longer afford open borders, mass immigration, gun grabbers, pointless, endless, unwinable wars, "free trade", P.C nonsense, multiculturalism, etc.

Blogger Zeke OF Confettii September 07, 2016 7:39 AM  

Poland could not be found on a map for many years. Poland exists and refuses to accept invaders.

Blogger Cataline Sergius September 07, 2016 7:42 AM  

But it’s quite obvious that conservatives don’t believe any such thing, that they feel no such sense of urgency, of an immediate necessity to change course and avoid the cliff.

Now there is a great meme; "If you are headed off a cliff...ACT LIKE IT!"

Thirty years ago half measures might have been enough but they sure as hell aren't now.

Blogger Dexter September 07, 2016 7:43 AM  

I don't know who "Publius Decius Mus" is,

For a while, there was an excellent blog called the Journal of American Greatness. Then for some unknown reason a few months ago the authors deleted it. IIRC Publius was one of the authors.

one particular bi-plane - a fighter bomber - was still in service in 1945 - the Fairey Swordfish indeed in 1940 and launched from H.M.S. Ark Royal it was a group of that same bi-plane that attacked and sank the Bismark.

Swordfish wasn't in the Battle of Britain. It would have died quickly. Swordfish did not sink the Bismarck, but crippled it so that the RN surface fleet could catch it and sink it.

Blogger VD September 07, 2016 7:43 AM  

Vox, how do you think the release of info from Wikileaks will effect the 2016 race?

No idea. But I doubt Assange is bluffing. It's not in his interest to do so.

Blogger American Spartan September 07, 2016 7:46 AM  

JaimeInTexas wrote:Of no use on dogfighting for air supremacy.

And now, Johnny Horton's song worms in my brain.


"We gotta the traitors makin such a fuss, we gotta sink the cucks because America depends on us"

"Hit the Net a running and spin those memes around We gotta find the cucks and we gotta cut`em down"

Anonymous Slen September 07, 2016 7:47 AM  

JaimeInTexas wrote:

And now, Johnny Horton's song worms in my brain.


What song? Is it "Nigger Hating Me?"

Blogger dienw September 07, 2016 7:49 AM  

Buchanan on Schafly and her book on the current state of conservatism.

Blogger Mountain Man September 07, 2016 7:54 AM  

I read articles like this and I want to hit the bottle.. and its only 8 am.

" opportunistic media doomsayers who have never seen an Apocalypse, a Ragnarok, or a Rapture they didn't like."

Snyder, Bonner and Hagee come to mind

Anonymous CC September 07, 2016 7:59 AM  

I read that article when it was posted in the comments yesterday. Really good stuff. It's great to see something written for that audience that draws the same conclusions that those on the Alt-Right do rather than damning by association or using sneaky ad hominem. "yes it is that bad and it's getting worse, therefore Trump is your only real choice." I hope it gets passed around.

They do not understand the significance of the Supreme Court's version of the US Constitution not being the same as the original written version of the Constitution

I sometimes make/get my dad DVDs of stuff I've come across online, since he'd never watch them on his computer. He watched a lot of the PBS documentaries and he was really impressed with their quality (we don't have PBS in Ireland). His career was in law so a few years ago I gave him their 4-part series on the history of the US Supreme Court. When I asked him what he thought, I was surprised when he told me that historically they had gotten pretty much every big decision wrong and should never have meddled in what is the government's job. I asked him: "Well, were they not maybe necessary as a check on government power? Would you not see them as somehow arbiters or interpreters of the constitution when there are new developments in society?" Nope. They should have kept their nose out. Governments should make the laws.

I see what he means now that I've come to understand the damage that's been done to all Western Societies and how it's been done. The courts have played a big part, due to entryism or undue media influence or misguided belief in progress. Many in the West would still largely trust the higher courts, so there's lots more damage they can still do. I admit that I was actually surprised when the US Supreme Court made gay marriage legal so quickly, but I guess I shouldn't have been.

Regarding the constitution, it's almost pointless making your central political plank the protection and preservation of a document, when that document can be so easily undermined and changed by appointees who will never share the outlook and spirit of its original drafters.

Blogger SDaly September 07, 2016 8:29 AM  

After the collapse, what nation follows here in the US?

I agree with all of the points made, but what nation do the kids of a man from 19th Century Irish/German stock, married to woman of English (17th C)/Scandinavian (19th C) stock form?

Blogger VD September 07, 2016 8:40 AM  

I agree with all of the points made, but what nation do the kids of a man from 19th Century Irish/German stock, married to woman of English (17th C)/Scandinavian (19th C) stock form?

I have no idea. I'm not the Nation Police. But sooner or later, I expect you'll find out.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan September 07, 2016 8:48 AM  

The twice chinned cucks are whores who won't give up their pimp, their last bit of nobility.

Blogger dc.sunsets September 07, 2016 8:50 AM  

I agree with all of the points made, but what nation do the kids of a man from 19th Century Irish/German stock, married to woman of English (17th C)/Scandinavian (19th C) stock form?

Is not the exemplar the Jews? One nation in every state they occupy. 3000 years of nation, enduring before and during the era of the nation-state, no doubt enduring long after the nation-state's demise.

The key is assortive mating, and to me this one is a given. I raised my sons to be both proud and humble. Proud to be capable of earning respect. Humble in the face of a big world with plenty of people smarter than they are.

Of course they sought out young women of similar attributes. Bright. Sweet-natured. Interested in the same things out of life, predisposed to live in the culture to which my sons were born.

No woman outside the "tribe" would hold any attraction at all. Rinse and repeat with the grandkids, which given both the current trend and the probable trend to follow, should become easier. Why? Because the further out on the Lunatic Scale is pop culture, the easier it is to embed derision for it in your kids. Just use every opportunity to point-and-laugh.

"Hey kids, look at that stupid blond cheerleader who thought it made her look really cool to hook up with the 80-IQ star of her high school football team. Now she's an alcoholic, living in a rented single-wide, visiting their son every other Tuesday in prison."

Jews (and Chinese) do this every day of the week with their kids. Lesson One is "we're better than they are," and Lesson Two is "don't let them know we think they're scum. It lets us control them better."

Only their dumbest kids wander across the tracks, which is a form of culling the population anyway.

Anonymous Anonymous September 07, 2016 8:57 AM  

@33, You will be part of the white nation whether you like it or not. Blacks consider you white, Hispanics consider you white, Asians consider you white, etc.

Blogger dc.sunsets September 07, 2016 8:57 AM  

High IQ kids with good levels of common sense are part of a "nation" that already exists.

All we need to do is continue to remove the stigma Leftists attempt to attach to choosing a mate who shares your race, culture and other qualities. We do this by laughing our asses off at those who virtue-signal their way to self-destruction.

We are fortunate that people like Amy Biehl and David Ruenzel provide lessons so rich in irony for the edification of our young.

Blogger Robert Divinity September 07, 2016 8:58 AM  

Easily some of the most brilliant insights I've read from you. Very well done, this in particular: "Therefore, it should surprise no one that as the international state system is in the process of coming to an end, the ideology politics that arose within it and subsequently dominated it should also be in decline.


When a conservative pillar such as Claremont has come to realize the movement/full retreat is delusional or fraudulent, the faux ideology is on borrowed time. Frankly, in this post-ideological age, there aren't any political philosophies outside of tribal identity able to survive. Which ultimately is your point mentioned above.

Yet we may also reasonably ask: What explains the Pollyanna-ish declinism of so many others? That is, the stance that Things-Are-Really-Bad—But-Not-So-Bad-that-We-Have-to-Consider-Anything-Really-Different! The obvious answer is that they don’t really believe the first half of that formulation. If so, like Chicken Little, they should stick a sock in it. Pecuniary reasons also suggest themselves, but let us foreswear recourse to this explanation until we have disproved all the others.

Claremont isn't ready to admit it yet but answers its own question. Conservatism has become delusional, fraudulent and built on personal greed. It must be a tough realization for them.

9: It became cool for anyone who sought power or influence through the Republican party to call themselves "conservative" after Reagan's political ascendance.

It became a meaningless label to embrace, really. I agree with you there. It is not unlike the attendees at gladiatorial events identifying as "yellows" or "reds." The main difference is the cucks are the poor bastards in the arena running from predatory big cats and not fighting back.

15: The Conservatives simply can&t comprehend that we're not playing the game by the rules as written anymore, but by an evolving, changing set of house rules instead.

I agree with Claremont. Most self-proclaimed conservatives are in denial, frauds, or thieves. The movement has some utility but it is limited by these flaws.

The cucks are use to losing, they see it as a mandate, a requirement, they losers in life and refuse to be happy until everyone/better then them is drag down into the same pit of self hatred, misery, hopelessness, and self induced masochism.

This assumes they care about winning. I don't.

Lucky the cucks are finished, they have no audience left, whites can no longer afford open borders, mass immigration, gun grabbers, pointless, endless, unwinable wars, "free trade", P.C nonsense, multiculturalism, etc.

Large corporate interests will continue to keep them afloat for a while, but voters have abandoned them totally. To cite one example, when a group with a large element that identifies itself as "pro-life" has no problem with a pro-abortion United States Supreme Court, even the dimmest wit can see through it.

Now there is a great meme; "If you are headed off a cliff...ACT LIKE IT!"

Good stuff. Claremont extends the conservative movement the generous assumption it is in denial that there is a cliff.

Regarding the constitution, it's almost pointless making your central political plank the protection and preservation of a document, when that document can be so easily undermined and changed by appointees who will never share the outlook and spirit of its original drafters.

What's even worse is the document that animates the central plank no longer exists in any meaningful way.

Blogger SDaly September 07, 2016 9:04 AM  

The issue behind the question was to contrast with the strong nation/idea of groups like Jews or Armenians.

"White" isn't a nation. The English nation was made from an amalgam of invaders (native Britons, Angles, Saxons, Danes, Normans), so it is possible that a white "American" nation could re-emerge.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan September 07, 2016 9:18 AM  

Levin supposedly has thrown in the towel and will now vote Trump. I am a bit disappointed but there is still the goofy virtue signaling womanish cucks like Erikson and Beck flapping their double chins, so there is that advantage for us.

Blogger Ben Sanderson September 07, 2016 9:20 AM  

Publius Decius Mus was a writer at the now defunct Journal of American Greatness. It was the best non alt right critique of Conservatism, Inc. on teh interwebs. 'Tis a shame they took it down.

Blogger tz September 07, 2016 9:23 AM  

The cucks created an echo-chamber where they could virtue signal and still get paychecks sufficient to afford the gated communities. And we've seen the "let them eat cake" articles and the Bastille has been stormed.

They are the doctor which treats your symptoms just enough so you don't die, but have to keep coming back. Trump offers to cure the disease.

Blogger VD September 07, 2016 9:23 AM  

"White" isn't a nation. The English nation was made from an amalgam of invaders (native Britons, Angles, Saxons, Danes, Normans), so it is possible that a white "American" nation could re-emerge.

Your history is off; read the latest genetic studies. There is very little Danish blood in the modern British. They were mostly killed off in the Harrowing of the North. But yes, nations can emerge, and a trans-European white American nation is a distinct possibility. That is what the Spencerian Alt-Right seeks.

Blogger dc.sunsets September 07, 2016 9:34 AM  

This wishy-washy intermediacy of the Cucks should be short-lived. The #nevertrump-sters are highlighting how the old "conservatives" will have to declare for Alt-Right or Openly Left.

More data showing that the tidal wave is finally cresting. So far, it looks like the social reversal is on the leading edge of the wave, rolling over first, and that the economic & financial crests are lagging.

Anonymous High tech Redneck September 07, 2016 9:35 AM  

Journal of American Greatness has respawned as American Greatness. I am not sure if linking is allowed but of you search for it you'll find it pretty easily.

Blogger Samuel Nock September 07, 2016 9:36 AM  

Is that a Jew or a Wizard?

Blogger VD September 07, 2016 9:37 AM  

Just for reference: "The Romans, Vikings and Normans may have ruled or invaded the British for hundreds of years, but they left barely a trace on our DNA, the first detailed study of the genetics of British people has revealed. The analysis shows that the Anglo-Saxons were the only conquering force, around 400-500 AD, to substantially alter the country’s genetic makeup, with most white British people now owing almost 30% of their DNA to the ancestors of modern-day Germans.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd September 07, 2016 9:38 AM  

SDaly wrote:After the collapse, what nation follows here in the US?
It will be called the American nation.

SDaly wrote:what nation do the kids of a man from 19th Century Irish/German stock, married to woman of English (17th C)/Scandinavian (19th C) stock form?

We know what it will be called. I agree with Vox: I don't think anyone knows what it will look like.

Blogger VD September 07, 2016 9:38 AM  

Is that a Jew or a Wizard?

Pretty sure it's a wizard.

Blogger Robert Divinity September 07, 2016 9:41 AM  

Journal of American Greatness has respawned as American Greatness.

Thanks for the heads up!

Anonymous Gecko September 07, 2016 9:41 AM  

Excellent observations in the article, especially from the block Vox quoted. One aspect from other parts seemed self-contradictory, though.

I know he's not saying that the election will fix everything, but he's still clinging to outdated ideas about how much elections matter. He's basically correct about his Trump/Hillary observations, but "the final test?" No.

We've been told for a long time that we can make a difference if only we get out and vote, and encourage everyone else to do so. This is yet another failed conservative plan, IMO. The people who are going to make a difference, if any, are not the ones focusing on the vote.

Blogger Robert Divinity September 07, 2016 9:46 AM  

@51:

Buying time to sort things matters.

Anonymous Gecko September 07, 2016 9:49 AM  

I admit that it matters. Just not nearly as much as most make out.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents September 07, 2016 9:54 AM  

@46, @49
Looks like a doofus role-playing as a Wizard. Very appropriate image.

"Yeah, I got your +5 Spell of Loyalty right here, dude."

Anonymous Spartacus xxxxx September 07, 2016 10:08 AM  

[C]onservatism is not merely incoherent, it is now as entirely irrelevant as a biplane during the Battle of Britain. - VD

This the kind of picturesque one-liner that sticks. And the Constitution would do as well as a hot-air balloon in the same battle.

Anonymous Stoli September 07, 2016 10:34 AM  

"They are unaware that most immigrants, children of immigrants, and grandchildren of immigrants neither know nor care what any version of "the Constitution" is, says, or represents"

What is the basis for this statement and can you share with us the magic potion you have used to allow yourself into the heads of all grandchildren of immigrants?

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 07, 2016 10:34 AM  

"conservatism is not merely incoherent, it is now as entirely irrelevant as a biplane during the Battle of Britain."

More like a Zeppelin. Biplanes once had an offensive use in war.

Blogger YIH September 07, 2016 10:41 AM  

The American Cuckservative noticed it too.
In his words: The author lands some wincing blows on Conservatism, Inc.
Cucky's wincing (the truth tends to make him do that) alright - as usual.
But, says the writer, look at what conservatives do, or rather, don’t do. They’re proposing that things continue as they are, with some rightist pruning.
Thanks for noticing 2+2 does not equal ''Jesus'', he's figured out that much, trouble is, he still hasn't figured out what 2+2 does equal yet.
Then again, I think Hillary is superficially prudent, amoral, and a liar too. The difference is that Hillary’s predictably bad, in exactly the way the writer of this piece says. Who knows what Trump would do? The writer says that’s what makes it worth taking a chance on him, and he’s right. But it’s also true that Trump, because of his instability and recklessness, might do something genuinely terrible that inadvertently starts a war. The devilishness of Hillary Clinton does not make Trump any less of a devil himself.
That's become the standard for those who've at least given Trump's platform a bit of thought: ''Yeah, but is he really any different than Hillary?''.
IMHO, I think Trump is less likely to start/continue wars than Hillary, just given her (and Bill's) track record. Immigration? Like it or not, that is a question mark. How much does he really mean it, and if he does, how effective will he press the issue with a Congress and courts that will likely stymie anything he tries to do in that regard.
But then: The writer’s basic point is that yes, Trump is problematic, but at least he offers a chance of things changing.
You know Hillary's going to be as bad, if not worse than 0bama. That's assuming, of course, she doesn't wind up being the next William Henry Harrison (In office: March 4, 1841 – April 4, 1841).

Blogger James September 07, 2016 11:07 AM  

Re the Fags like Milo:

A "Gay" is a fag who votes for Trump.

Blogger James September 07, 2016 11:11 AM  

""They are unaware that most immigrants, children of immigrants, and grandchildren of immigrants neither know nor care what any version of "the Constitution" is, says, or represents"
What is the basis for this statement and can you share with us the magic potion you have used to allow yourself into the heads of all grandchildren of immigrants?"
The empirical evidence of the eyeballs tells us that pretty much nobody gives a rat's behind about what the Constitution says, and the more recent the immigrant is the less they care about limited government and the more they care about grabbing their share of the gravy train with both hands.

With some exceptions, of course, but they do not change the general rule.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents September 07, 2016 11:20 AM  

@56

Actions and words. Go to DC. Ask New Americans what the Washington Monument is and what it means.

Notice how they vote, and why they vote that way.

Any more questions, we got answers.

Blogger VD September 07, 2016 11:22 AM  

What is the basis for this statement and can you share with us the magic potion you have used to allow yourself into the heads of all grandchildren of immigrants?

Stow it, Stoli. That sort of idiotic petty pedantry doesn't fly here. 64 percent of Americans can't even name the three branches of governments.

Blogger dc.sunsets September 07, 2016 11:23 AM  

What is the basis for this statement and can you share with us the magic potion you have used to allow yourself into the heads of all grandchildren of immigrants?

Of the grandchildren of immigrants at my wife's school, I'd say it's pretty certain that the fruit falls right next to the tree. (In many cases "grandma" of a ten-year-old is only aged 42-45.)

Pray tell, where is the political agitation in Central America to adopt any aspect of the US Constitution? Hmm? No?

FTR, I think "blank slater" should be used as an insult intended to be at least as vicious as "cabron."

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents September 07, 2016 11:27 AM  

FTR, I think "blank slater" should be used as an insult intended to be at least as vicious as "cabron."

Nah. "Cabron" is too nice. "Blank slater" is more like "Pendejo" or "Puto".

Anonymous BenG September 07, 2016 11:30 AM  

The idea that any deviation from the opinion of the founders as exhibited in the original Constitution alters the meaning of what the U.S. was to be is a lie. The founders fully expected the Constitution to be altered by the people to take account of changed circumstances.

Anyone who does not recognize this doesn't know the basic history of the founders or the U.S. or the Constitution.

Blogger slarrow September 07, 2016 11:33 AM  

Reading this piece reminds me of the motto I've adopted when people I know object to Trump and what lies behind him:

It's later than you think.

Anonymous Stoli September 07, 2016 11:39 AM  

@VD
"Stow it, Stoli. That sort of idiotic petty pedantry doesn't fly here. 64 percent of Americans can't even name the three branches of governments."

You're so full of shit, VD. Who's surprised you didn't answer my question. You don't know what the fuck you are talking about when you address what people understand or don't and when you try to discuss the meaning of the constitution. It's why you deflect on the issue always.

You've been challenged to debates on the meaning of the Constitution over and over, but you always run from them. You run from them for a very simple reason I suspect. You know nothing of what you are talking about.

Blogger dc.sunsets September 07, 2016 11:43 AM  

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Blogger dc.sunsets September 07, 2016 11:44 AM  

It's later than you think.

Amen. Every year that goes by without a paradigm shift sees the hole in which we stand dug deeper. If the shift is not quite present, and Clinton lands in the WH, the hole will go China Syndrome.

OTOH, the shift occurring during a Clinton presidency could provide utterly timeless entertainment. The magnitude of this shift could see that lunatic woman perp-walked out the West Wing Entrance.

Anonymous 5343 September 07, 2016 11:45 AM  

You don't know what the fuck you are talking about when you address what people understand or don't and when you try to discuss the meaning of the constitution.

Actually, you're the one who's full of shit. If you can't grasp that NOBODY CARES WHAT THE CONSTITUTION SAYS ANYMORE -- nobody at all on the Left and nobody on the Right with any actual clout or will to fight -- then you are beyond hope.

Why debate that which is meaningless to most Americans? Even if you win -- nobody cares.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan September 07, 2016 11:58 AM  

Stoli the Contard follows the script, scold right, suck left

Anonymous crushlimbraw September 07, 2016 12:06 PM  

This article is going to my short email list with the notation "I implore you to read this in full text!"
The author is much more eloquent than I am, but he is describing the big picture as I have described it for several years - in my own inadequate, barely functional words. We are at the abyss - I have no doubt about that!
Coincidentally, in some of my online comments, I have started to use the term 'wishing well' for Conservatives genuflecting at the altar of daGOP.
The primary concern I have is that the patience and reading comprehension level of most folks prohibits them from grasping what this author has composed. They want quick fixes - there ain't any!

Blogger Stilicho September 07, 2016 12:10 PM  

Benji, you're too short for this ride. If you need further proof of your inadequacies, explain how 5 supreme court justices = the people. Bonus points for explaining how a bunch of foreigners = the people (or their posterity).

Anonymous 5343 September 07, 2016 12:16 PM  

In order to make the case, you actually have to, you know, make the case.

The Supreme Court doesn't care, and when it makes hash of the Constitution, the Left celebrates and the Right caves.

OpenID UnderwaterOperative September 07, 2016 12:18 PM  

I'm a member of the posterity the Constitution was written to protect. Here's what I know about the Constitution, it failed.

Anonymous patrick kelly September 07, 2016 12:23 PM  

" The founders fully expected the Constitution to be altered by the people to take account of changed circumstances. "

By amendment or constitutional convention, not by judicial sophistry and obfuscations or wet fingers in the air.

It's dead, a zombie document with puppeteers hands up its ass.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents September 07, 2016 12:28 PM  

@68

and

In order to make the case, you actually have to, you know, make the case.


Take that Muh Constitution stuff up with Anthony "meaning of life" Kennedy, 'kay?

We see how colonists and migrants vote. We see how they reject Amendment 1 and Amendment 2.

Why don't you prove your point, Stoli, instead of asking everyone else to prove a negative?

Muh Constitution troll is obvious in its attempt to hijack the thread

Blogger VD September 07, 2016 12:34 PM  

Banned and spammed, Stoli. Don't come back.

Anonymous BenG September 07, 2016 12:43 PM  

"It's dead, a zombie document with puppeteers hands up its ass"

You don't know history. And you don't understand how constitutions work. If you really have an interest in either, you can ask me.

Blogger tz September 07, 2016 12:47 PM  

Rush is reading the article on the air - extended excerpts.
The web page isn't accessible for a while.

Anonymous patrick kelly September 07, 2016 12:48 PM  

"you don't understand how constitutions work"

ROFLMAO you think it "works, hahahahah.

Blogger Stilicho September 07, 2016 12:59 PM  

Notice how Benji avoids questions zhe can't answer. Just another yipping troll.

Blogger VD September 07, 2016 1:03 PM  

Stoli, banned means you are not welcome to comment on this blog anymore. It's a big Internet. Go and comment somewhere else.

Anonymous User September 07, 2016 1:08 PM  

Rush read this entire excerpt on the air this morning and gave it his full-throated agreement. I'm not a huge fan, but getting this such wide exposure is fantastic and further evidence of the shift that's happening.

Blogger tz September 07, 2016 1:08 PM  

@81
How does this disc thing work, I move it and see rainbows but don't see the movie?
Madison noted it was a parchment barrier.
The tablets with the 10 Commandments didn't stop sin except to the extent some who might have been tempted to rationalize evil no longer could. As Paul said, the Law was our schoolmaster but didn't make us righteous.
The Constitution didn't make us the apex of civil government, it codified not even the structure or content of the laws as much as designed a mechanism to disperse power so as - if the instructions were followed - would give us peace and prosperity.
What do you mean this sheepskin BA in nonsense cities doesn't give me a six figure income?
What do you mean I actually have to mess with buying, maintaining, and doing paperwork on houses instead of just attending the weekend property prosperity seminar?

Rules cannot enforce themselves.

Anonymous Instasetting September 07, 2016 1:09 PM  

Conservatives think that we are headed toward a cliff. The D's want to put the pedal on the car down to the floor, and the R's want to slow down a bit, but not change direction. This is Standard Conservative Thought. Therefore the author of this piece is wrong.

Also, I think Libertarians make up a larger collection of NT's than do Principled Conservatives or Long Game Conservatives. Hillary trolls, and Consultant Class wienies make up a larger portion that either of the first three groups.

Unless Conservatives want to be replaced by the Alt-Right, they must muster the nerve to aggressively and without let or stay attack the Big Biz corruptman, the Libertarian openborder god-hater, the Liberal totalitarian, and the Hollyweirdo.

Blogger Aeoli Pera September 07, 2016 1:13 PM  

Where conservatism has proven intrinsically fragile and self-contradictory, the Alt-Right is anti-fragile and intellectually consistent.

No it isn't.

Anonymous Philipp September 07, 2016 1:17 PM  

@58: After reading Dreher's comments on the article, it has once again become clear that Dreher is a) a coward, b) a cuckservative and c) a defeatist. He has already given up.

Blogger Minecraft Chuck September 07, 2016 1:17 PM  

Simply explained, really. The Angles and Saxons brought their women with them. All the other conquering peoples didn't. It's the same as the difference between America and Canada, where the English sent colonists, and Latin America, where Spain sent conquistadors.

Blogger Minecraft Chuck September 07, 2016 1:20 PM  

Concern troll is concerned. Please define all words used, including 'a', 'and', and 'the.'

Blogger Sithicus September 07, 2016 1:36 PM  

I'm getting 403: Forbidden error when trying to access the link.

Blogger CM September 07, 2016 1:41 PM  

I can not access their site. Is the link wrong or did they take it down?

Anonymous rubberducky September 07, 2016 1:50 PM  

The site is down. Rush Limbaugh has devoted his entire show (so far) to this piece. It's been "Instalanched" by Rush.

Anonymous crushlimbraw September 07, 2016 1:52 PM  

Rush has been reading and commenting on this for the entirety of his program today - and his audience has crashed the site apparently!

Anonymous crushlimbraw September 07, 2016 2:06 PM  

While the author makes a clear case for Trump, he also acknowledges that Conservatives have lost the culture for a century.
In my online jousts with Conservatives I (a 'recovering' Conservative) have often asked if they can name a national institution not lost to the Left in the last 100 years. They never answer that - no one can!
Politics is downstream from culture, which is downstream from education and the media - and who controls that? My website makes prominent mention of Antonio Gramsci - the most influential man of the 20th century in my opinion.
To cut to the chase - at best, Trump can be an important stop gap - but he will have zero allies in DC. It's up to us to provide that. Who is us?
I explain most of that at the website - we have to become mentors - not stay as potted plants!

Anonymous CatholicOne September 07, 2016 2:54 PM  

Conservatives will always be at a political disadvantage because the conservative sentiment is that politics is a necessary evil. Meaning does not come from political activism, but from religion, family and community. What the conservative desires is to be left alone. The problem is that the Left is totalitarian and will never leave you alone. What is a conservative to do?

Anonymous Edwin September 07, 2016 3:09 PM  

Vox, the wife and I have enjoyed watching your discussion with Molyneux.

With regards to the potential collapse of the USA, Chittum wrote a book back in the late 90's about a potential 2nd "Civil" War in the US, I believe there are likely some overlaps with his assumptions and some of the thinking or observations found in the alt-right.

He makes some germane observations about the significance of tribe.

Chittum, Thomas W. (1997). Civil War Two: The Coming Breakup of America

Anonymous BGKB September 07, 2016 3:36 PM  

Do you think Assange has? Any reason to believe he is bluffing?

When Assange releases video of Huma licking HilLIARy's carpet when the Benghazi 3am phone call came in will it hurt or help against likely D voters?

" opportunistic media doomsayers who have never seen an Apocalypse, a Ragnarok, or a Rapture they didn't like."

GOLDBUG Inc. When niggers and MS-13 gangbangers are killing people in mass you will be glad you bought physical gold from us.

Is that a Jew or a Wizard? If you combine the 2 you get Kabbalism, Madonna tried engage in it. Can Rabbi B give his view on Kabbalah magic?

basis for this statement and can you share with us the magic potion you have used to allow yourself into the heads of all

Even 4th generation Hispanics in the US have made almost no advances in merit based testing other than even English second language students beating blacks on the Verbal SAT.

Blogger Anchorman September 07, 2016 3:43 PM  

A bit OT, but here is a clip that is being passed off as "advice." It shows, in living color, what "the establishment" looks and talks like.

The Leftist doesn't move an inch. The "GOP strategist" shoots Right, kisses Left.

Blogger Robert Divinity September 07, 2016 3:45 PM  

And in doing so, it also underlines the petty narcissism of the dwindling #NeverTrump crowd

If the CNN poll is to be believed, ninety percent of Republicans (the normal threshold) now support Trump. The most pathetic part of this dwindling band of #NeverTrump narcissists is that they believe anyone, anywhere gives one single fuck what they think. The best part is no one anywhere has to pretend any longer to give one single fuck what they think. Their expulsion from the Republican Party likely won't save it, but will allow the GOP to be something less of a laughingstock than when they polluted it.

Blogger Anchorman September 07, 2016 3:47 PM  

The article was also linked on instapundit.

instalanche + Rush talking about it = crashed servers.

I can access it now, though.

Blogger Anchorman September 07, 2016 3:58 PM  

5 Minutes with Reagan in 1976.

Substitute America's Left for the Soviets, and the GOPe for Ford/Kissinger.

Same message he spoke in 1976 resonates today: the enemies of America do not respect peace, have no vision of co-existence, and must be met with strength.

Blogger GFR September 07, 2016 4:22 PM  

"Perhaps the most effective of the Italian warplanes to fight in the Battle of Britain was the Fiat CR.42 Falco, a small, lightly armed, yet surprisingly nimble open-cockpit bi-plane. With a maximum speed of just 440 km/h (270 mph), it was much slower than Britain’s fighters. Yet, the Falco could easily out-turn and out-maneuver any RAF interceptor sent up against it. Although no Allied planes were lost to the CR.42 during the Battle of Britain, it was still dangerous in the hands of a skilled pilot. Allied aviators learned to give the tiny war bird a wide berth in dogfights."

Anonymous SaltHarvest September 07, 2016 5:29 PM  

Markku wrote:The new meme seems to be that Alt-Right is a mirror image of the left. Well, that is half true. The left has been winning, and doing nothing but winning, for decades now. Alt-Right is winning. So, very similar there. However, the left has been winning for evil ends, and Alt-Right for good ends.

But 50% correct from the cucks is pretty well done these days, considering.

That is still only partially correct. The two sides are two shards from a mirror, and each has its particular slant on (non)reality. That the alt-right is correct for some metrics does not negate the encompassing broken (/fallen) state.

Anonymous SaltHarvest September 07, 2016 5:37 PM  

Cataline Sergius wrote:But it’s quite obvious that conservatives don’t believe any such thing, that they feel no such sense of urgency, of an immediate necessity to change course and avoid the cliff.

Now there is a great meme; "If you are headed off a cliff...ACT LIKE IT!"

Thirty years ago half measures might have been enough but they sure as hell aren't now.


Publius Decius Mus wants to believe we're still on solid ground and merely speeding towards the cliff rather than contemplate the decision to not pack a parachute when the US went over. The alt-right is at least oriented toward figuring out what should happen after the vehicle of state crashes as gravity decrees.

Anonymous Bell Worthington September 07, 2016 9:49 PM  

@7 You've missed the entire point of the article... If mainstream conservatism uses the alt-right as a virtue signalling tool, then it's just playing the left's game by the left's rules like it always has. Conservatism has not and will not accomplish anything by that method.

Constitution and the rule of law are reasonable, but it takes a reasonable civilization, a healthy nation, to uphold them. What do conservatives do on these matters of civilization and nation but cave in and get cucked over and over?

The alt-right is not here to prop up conservatism.

The alt-right is here to win.

Blogger tz September 07, 2016 10:16 PM  

The base problem is the system is unstable. Like the USSR, it wasn't sustainable. Like Venezuela it will run out of Other People's Money.

The article notes "conservatives" have identified the holes in the lifeboat but can't get the corks near the holes because some ladies will clutch their pearls and shoo them away. The white knights are better dead than red.

In this there are many islands of sanity, but they aren't in the nexuses of the system. They are in the areas that provide food and energy.

There may be no real collapse or crash or discontinuous change (catastrophe). But reality is reasserting itself. And some have seen and ran screaming into places where reality dominates. That food needs to be produced, water purified, you have to have warmth.

It is not so much idiocracy but illusiocracy. Stuff must be produced and there is no magic.

The light switch always just works, and now does so via the Internet of Things so I can use my smartphone!

When that ceases to be true, it will require cleverness and creativity to overcome.

Also as to the "racist" or "supremacist" charge, it is trivially dismissed as one of the pillars is "The Rule of Law". Not of race or men. There will be laws. They will be obeyed or else. Many will cheer. Some will not like it so they will move or test, be caught, and punished.

JP2 in Evangelium Vitae noted capital punishment was an expident, but undesired when it was reasonable to keep criminals alive in prison.

Part of the breakdown even if it isn't a collapse is likely to involve some serious violence to the point of death. Consider looters during disasters. It is likely to be one long disaster.

Blogger SciVo September 07, 2016 10:21 PM  

a trans-European white American nation

That sounds horrible. Pan-European sounds better, given the difference between transsexual and pansexual.

Anonymous SciVo September 07, 2016 11:19 PM  

But anyway, brilliant article, deserves the attention.

Blogger Thordaddy September 08, 2016 2:48 AM  

These conservatives remind me of the Catholics who recognize the (t)ruth of modernism and yet reject the (T)ruth of "in faith alone."

Anonymous Discard September 08, 2016 4:40 AM  

103. GFR: The British defended Malta for a while with just three Glostor Gladiators, a 250 mph biplane.

And the Italian fleet at Taranto was crippled in a night torpedo attack in 1941 by Fairey Swordfish. The biplanes put, IIRC, three battleships on the bottom.

Biplane Pedant

Blogger American Spartan September 08, 2016 8:56 AM  

Unless Conservatives want to be replaced by the Alt-Right, they must muster the nerve to aggressively and without let or stay attack the Big Biz corruptman, the Libertarian openborder god-hater, the Liberal totalitarian, and the Hollyweirdo.

Dude, its 50, 60 years too late, maybe even 100.

They had their chance, failed to understand what it was, and gave up every chance they had. They are being replaced by the Alt Right, thank God.

They were at best failures, at worse they were controlled opposition/traitors.

Anonymous Copperhead September 08, 2016 10:58 AM  

@29
No, that song is by Johnny Rebel.
The Johnny Horton song is "Sink the Bismarck."
I have Greatest Hits CDs from both guys. Recommend.

Anonymous Edwin September 08, 2016 5:41 PM  

Johnny Horton's "Battle of New Orleans" is great also, we used to occasionally use it as a cadence way back when I was a soldier.

Trump has some Jacksonian qualities, so it's moderately relevant.

Anonymous Pennywise September 09, 2016 8:37 AM  

Washington and Jefferson and company enabled future generations to ultimately decide through laws, amendments, and the court system as to who is and who is a citizen. Immigrants for the most part became fully immersed into our society, and completely comprehend the principles of Americanism. Those are immutable facts. We are right, those who believe differently are wrong.

Anonymous Avalanche September 09, 2016 4:01 PM  

@30 Sam Dickson on Schlafley: http://www.sam-dickson.com/PSchlafley.htm

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