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Saturday, September 03, 2016

Their indifference is palpable

This interview with NK Jemisin in The Atlantic is interesting, as it indicates a change in strategy on the part of the Puppykickers:
Just a year ago, the idea of a novel as deliberately outside the science-fiction norm as The Fifth Season winning the Hugo Award seemed unlikely. In 2013, a small group of science-fiction writers and commentators launched the “Sad Puppies” and “Rabid Puppies” campaigns to exploit the Hugo nomination system and place dozens of books and stories of their own choosing up for awards. Those campaigns arose as a reaction to perceived “politicization” of the genre—often code for it becoming more diverse and exploring more themes of social justice, race, and gender—and became a space for some science-fiction and fantasy communities to rail against “heavy handed message fic.” Led by people like the “alt-right” commentator Vox Day, the movements reached fever pitch in the 2015 Hugo Award cycle, and Jemisin herself was often caught up in the intense arguments about the future of the genre.

I spoke to Jemisin about her works, politics, the sad puppies controversy, and about race and gender representation in science-fiction and fantasy the day before The Fifth Season won the Hugo Award. Our conversation has been edited for length and clarity.

Newkirk: For you, are those people something that bothers you as you build a profile? Are people louder now that The Fifth Season is getting so much love?

Jemisin: They may be, but I’m not hearing them as much. I seem to have passed some kind of threshold, and maybe it’s something as simple as I now have so many positive messages coming at me that the negatives are sort of drowned out. As a side note, the so-called boogeyman of science-fiction, the white supremacist asshat who started the Rabid Puppies, Vox Day, apparently posted something about me a few days ago and I just didn’t care. There was a whole to-do between me and him a few years back where he ended up getting booted out of SWFA [Science Fiction and Fantasy Writers of America] because of some stuff he said about me, and I just didn’t care. It was a watershed moment at that point but now it’s just sort of, “Oh, it’s him again. He must be needing to get some new readers or trying to raise his profile again. Or something.” I didn’t look at it. No one bothered to read it and dissect it and send me anything about it. No one cared.
She just didn't care. She just didn't care. No one cared.

And then, the next day, they completely revamped the rules of the Hugo Award.

SJWAL. What's particularly amusing about this is that last year, the Puppykickers went running to the media, pointing-and-shrieking like banshees. That strategy completely failed, so now they're going with the "oh, we don't care" line, while simultaneously trying to claim that I am seeking to raise my profile. We'll see how long that lasts.

Let's face it, I'm not the one talking to The Atlantic about me. Nor do I have any need to do so. As Mike Cernovich says, we are the Alt Media now.

Notice how the interviewer doesn't ask her about calling Robert Heinlein and most of SF fandom "racist as *fuck*". The truth is that having Jemisin replace Scalzi as the public face of Pink SF is about the best possible thing for Blue SF.

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72 Comments:

Anonymous Wyrd September 03, 2016 2:03 PM  

Piss on Jemisin; that bitch chooses to be a full savage.

Anonymous Wyrd September 03, 2016 2:08 PM  

All right, you ignorant savages, get a good look at Aquezio, you heathen monkeys! Dr. Quest, I'll be back for you later! Take it easy! And you savages better lay off or I'll take your village apart stick by stick!
-Race Bannon

Blogger Michael Maier September 03, 2016 2:18 PM  

Yes, honey... I'm sure Africans learned ALL about savagery from Belgians. Which evil white man taught them to rape babies to cure AIDS?

I found it amusing that they talk about THE EVIL PUPPIES as much as her work. Why would that be? Seems downright stupid for THE ATLANTIC to do so....

unless they're just 100% about the clickbait.

I would have thought them too pretentious to want to ever appear like that.

And that is just a really odd and abrupt ending to the piece. It felt as though there should be a link to another page there.

Anonymous tublecane September 03, 2016 2:21 PM  

I enjoy how they put politicization in scare quotes, then say it's code for exploring themes of social justice. As if social justice has nothing to do with politics. Diversity, race, and gender are at least debatable, but social justice has "justice" right in the name. If that's not "politicization," what is?

I know, in their world social justice is not controversial and not therefore subject to legitimate political difference. It's just something normal people believe in, like the wetness of water.

Blogger pyrrhus September 03, 2016 2:24 PM  

I don't even see Jemisin as clickbait, since 99.9% of the population has never heard of her. The interview is just standard worship of minority tokens, like a certain T.N.Coates....

Anonymous tublecane September 03, 2016 2:28 PM  

@5-I think they meant the puppies part was clickbait, or the "alt-right" part. I see "alt-right" appearing in articles like this with great regularity, as far as the eye can see, coming soon without quotation marks.

Unless they wake up and realize the free publicity is a mistake.

Blogger Leo Littlebook in Shenzhen September 03, 2016 2:28 PM  

As we know from OKCupid data, fuck is *extremely* racist.

Looks like that's what she's upset about.

Doesn't a Hugo basically mean, "Congratulations, and here's an extra booster rocket to help you off the toilet"?

At her size, every silver dildo has its niche.

Blogger JWM September 03, 2016 2:42 PM  

She doesn't care. She doesn't care so much that she needs at least three insults for Vox Day in one sentence. She doesn't care so much that she has to tell everyone three or four times how much she doesn't care. Good thing she doesn't care. Otherwise I'd suspect that you got her goat.

JWM

Blogger Leo Littlebook in Shenzhen September 03, 2016 3:00 PM  

Portly negress
Sci-fi regress
Pedos progress
Readers egress

Shoggoths leageth
Vox Day kriegeth
TORzi bleedeth
Ilk beleaugeth.

Please mail my "Best Related Work" Hugo to: "Whitey on the moon"

Blogger Shimshon September 03, 2016 3:09 PM  

There's a whole lotta not caring going on. How many words of not caring are there?!

Blogger Pseudotsuga September 03, 2016 3:16 PM  

What a lovely propaganda puff piece! Hard hitting journalganda for the win!

Blogger Dave September 03, 2016 3:16 PM  

I bet she doesn't even care that Houston is upsetting Oklahoma. She just don't care.

Blogger Elocutioner September 03, 2016 3:20 PM  

Right. I'm sure she didn't care enough to talk about it on Twitter or FB or blog posts and such. I actually don't care so I'm not going to re-re-re-re-re-re-verify Rule #1.

Blogger Salt September 03, 2016 3:21 PM  

having Jemisin replace Scalzi as the public face of Pink SF

Scalzi needs to up his game. Should be entertaining.

Anonymous Rolf September 03, 2016 3:27 PM  

@14 - I don't think "Scalzi" and "game" should be in the same sentence.

Blogger Harsh September 03, 2016 3:37 PM  

NK who?

Blogger Cataline Sergius September 03, 2016 3:42 PM  

I loved this bit.

I was drawing in that case on King Leopold of Belgium’s horrible treatment of people in the Congo—chopping off hands for example—and how in the Rwandan Civil War they chopped off lots of hands. Well, they learned it from the Europeans.

Yeah. Uh-huh. I forgot all about how Shaka went to Cambridge to learn genocidal warfare.

And while we're at it N.K. Let's discuss cannibalism...

Nov 3, 2914 A mob in the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) stoned, burned and ate a man after accusing him of being part of a Ugandan-based Islamist “rebel” group operating in the area—forming part of an ancient and still-ongoing tradition of cannibalism in Africa.

In the latest incident, the unidentified victim was “accused” of being part of the Islamist group ADF-NAUL, who have massacred hundreds of locals using hatchets and machetes in the north east of the DRC.


Did they learn that from Europeans too?

Blogger Sagramore September 03, 2016 3:49 PM  

Ooh, Vox, I think she likes you. Tell SB to keep an eye on the rabbits.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan September 03, 2016 4:06 PM  

She needs to double down on the racism in Sci-fi bit, I double dog dare her

Blogger Were-Puppy September 03, 2016 4:16 PM  

There needs to be a new Hugo category - who doesn't care the most

Anonymous David September 03, 2016 4:20 PM  

When I get back to the U.S. this fall I'm going to check out The Fifth Season from our regional library. No way Jemisin is ever getting one thin dime from me. I will read it, and then post a fair review on Amazon. I'll be quite surprised if it is above a (1), as I have in the past found her writing to be just awful.

Blogger Elocutioner September 03, 2016 4:22 PM  

It's interesting that someone who reads "a lot of history for fun" picks an example that demonizes the white man and excuses the black man. (Yes, it looks like Leopold was brutal, but NABALT.)

I wonder, how many barbaric practices did Europeans learn from black Africa? Was this an equivalent two-way street?

"But it's just one example, don't read too much into it." The SJW carefully chooses his examples, and being white is the original sin to social justice. It's simple pattern recognition.

Anonymous Steve September 03, 2016 4:24 PM  

The Supreme Dark Lord is like Donald Trump: he's in their heads, in their he-e-e-eads, zombie, zombie, zombie-eh-eh. Notice they couldn't get through this brown-nosing interview without mentioning both.

Even among the titans of black science-fiction and fantasy writers

Lolwut?

including the greats Octavia Butler and Samuel Delany

Could he name a third? And would the NAMBLA member and Mrs Butler still be "titans" if they weren't black? Seems to me their fame, such as it is, derives solely from being Black Writers, not good writers.

The Fifth Season [...] asks thoroughly modern questions about oppression, race, gender, class, and sexuality.

Sounds about as much fun as being babysat by Chip Delany.

Anonymous KitF September 03, 2016 4:27 PM  

I was drawing in that case on King Leopold of Belgium’s horrible treatment of people in the Congo—chopping off hands for example—and how in the Rwandan Civil War they chopped off lots of hands. Well, they learned it from the Europeans.

The Rwandans also chopped off a whole lot of other parts, like breasts, faces, genitals. I'm struggling to believe any of that was covered on a Belgian curriculum either. But then all of the evil thinkings have to come from the white devil's mind, according to these foul, foolish wreckers.

Blogger Ceerilan September 03, 2016 4:59 PM  

Notice how anytime we talk about something, they think of it as code for something else. It must be terrifying to live in a world where no one says what they are thinking due to the taboos. That's why the alt-right is upon us. They are tired of the taboo-based bullying.

Anonymous tribunal September 03, 2016 5:04 PM  

She cares enough to really, really make it clear (3 times) that she doesn't care. The lady doth protest too much.

Anonymous Mr. Rational September 03, 2016 5:07 PM  

Elocutioner wrote:how many barbaric practices did Europeans learn from black Africa?
There was no necklacing before the White man introduced gasoline.  As for the rest, I think the White man is just plain more inventive than any other race and can be trusted to come up with novel things first... even if they are immediately suppressed by the moral sense of the public.

Blogger kh123 September 03, 2016 5:08 PM  

NK (which stands for Nah Kare, to be sure):

Joseph Conrad could give a shit either. Blame him for the steamship stoker eating rotten hippo meat and getting a spear through the neck. Because you know, that was the colonial method of choice: Get the savages... to be even more savage. With each other! How else could slave trade have flourished without the original merchants to be fooled into trafficking their own?

She'd at least sound halfway original if she portrayed the Great White Devil as a woman trying to get the mens of other tribes to fight it out over her. She'd sweep up the MGTOW flotsam in her sizable wake with that one.

Anonymous kfg September 03, 2016 5:20 PM  

" . . . chopping off hands . . . they learned it from the Europeans."

The Arabs were there first.

Blogger Bard September 03, 2016 6:01 PM  

Aahhhh, the fools. There is no such thing as negative publicity. At least she speaks the unspeakable name.

Anonymous Ironsides September 03, 2016 6:02 PM  

There is no kind of violence that the Africans (or any other branch of humanity) didn't think of on their own over thousands of years of history, due to their own innate teddy-bear-like innocence.

While specific technologies for inflicting a type of violence can be unique, the violence itself isn't. Any humans with cutting tools, for example, thought of cutting off any appendage or portion of the human body within 5 minutes of first developing said cutting tool.

It's so loathsomely stupid and juvenile and noxious to claim that Africans could utilize cutting tools for thousands of years and yet have such sweet rainbow-crapping angelic natures that they were incapable of even thinking of chopping bits off each other with them until the Evil Demonic White Man showed them how a few years ago that it infuriates me more than the rest of that tosh.

African history is an endless catalog of war, massacre, torture, mutilation, enslavement, and cannibalism -- of Africans by other Africans. The Hottentots (Khoi) exterminated the Bushmen from most of Africa, except where they occupied land too ghastly for the Hottentots to want it, and the Bantu and Hottentots did their best to butcher each other for the land, all before and without white intervention. To pretend otherwise, as this creature does, makes my blood boil.

Blogger weka September 03, 2016 6:11 PM  

Why should we care?

Because she may not have gone full orc. With enough counsel and the power of the Holy Spirit, she, like other enemies, may repent.

The more she protests the deeper the memes delve.

But her writing I avoid. And her sensitivity I care for not at all.

Blogger weka September 03, 2016 6:12 PM  

Why should we care?

Because she may not have gone full orc. With enough counsel and the power of the Holy Spirit, she, like other enemies, may repent.

The more she protests the deeper the memes delve.

But her writing I avoid. And her sensitivity I care for not at all.

Anonymous fish September 03, 2016 6:44 PM  

OT: More from the Big Sweaty Train Wreck that is Lena Dunhams Life!


http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/lena-dunham-apologizes-odell-beckham-925647

Anonymous rubberducky September 03, 2016 7:34 PM  

She and Jonah Goldberg somehow got on the same crazy page.

"See those people over there that you didn't see before or know about? Yeah, I'm utterly ignoring those guys."

Anonymous Baseball Savant September 03, 2016 7:46 PM  

Tell the Southrons to stay the hell out of the Midwest!!!! #Wisconsin

Blogger DSW September 03, 2016 7:48 PM  

If white colonialism was so bad how come every country that was turned back over to blacks has gone to crap. Can you say Zimbabwe?

I can remember when Hugo Awards were given to good writers who wrote stuff that people actually wanted to read.

Anonymous Rigel Kent September 03, 2016 7:59 PM  

So NK, Vox wrote something about you, but you never read it, and nobody mentioned it to you or sent you anything about it. I have to ask, how did you know about it? Some heretofore unmentioned psychic powers?

Honeychild, if you're gonna lie, try not to be so transparent about it.

Anonymous kfg September 03, 2016 8:00 PM  

" . . . surrounded by models and swan-like actresses it's hard not to feel like a sack of flaming garbage."

Dear Lena,

That would be because you are a sack of flaming garbage, which has nothing to do with your looks (however much they might not exactly help).

Anonymous Darth Dharmakīrti September 03, 2016 8:06 PM  

@33

And that's not all!

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/showbiz/542950/lena-dunham-racist-tweet-african-american-rodents-girls

Blogger residentMoron September 03, 2016 8:18 PM  

Yeah, they've gone from not talking about you, to talking about how they're not talking about you.

I'm sure she thinks this is progress but it has all the hallmarks of just another layer of self delusion.

Blogger Fenris Wulf September 03, 2016 8:32 PM  

@9: love the poem. Reminds me of the Star Trek episode where Abraham Lincoln calls Uhura a negress.

LINCOLN: What a charming negress. Oh, forgive me, my dear. I know in my time some used that term as a description of property.
UHURA: But why should I object to that term, sir? You see, in our century we've learned not to fear words.
KIRK: May I present our communications officer, Lieutenant Uhura.
LINCOLN: The foolishness of my century had me apologising where no offense was given.

Anonymous Wyrd September 03, 2016 8:46 PM  

UHURA: But why should I object to that term, sir? You see, in our century we've learned not to fear words.

LOLZ!

BTW, loving Loki's Child. Thanks for the props to prog-rock so far. Maybe your next book can include a shout-out to the prog-skiffle band Aye.

Blogger JaimeInTexas September 03, 2016 8:48 PM  

I was at the game. It was so freaking loud. Go Coogs!

Blogger J A Baker September 03, 2016 8:59 PM  

So on the one hand you have this new honorary queen of supposed science fiction being propped up and promoted by the converged industry. Nobody likes her writing nor do they care about what she writes about, they just play along to get along.

It's the opposite of Hillary's state department Clinton Foundation scam where you had to pay to play. Instead one has to play to get paid. I'm sure any writer out there who would criticize any of this woman's work in a negative way would shortly find themselves on the blacklist, no pun intended. Wait is the term blacklist racist?

Then, on the other hand... you have a group of rebels who are rallying behind a Luke Skywalker of sorts in hopes of fighting back against this hostile take over of their beloved genre.

Now that is a story to sell newspapers.

People will continue to talk about Vox and the Puppies because it is a fascinating story. They can't ignore you, they can't take their eyes away, they cant stop reading about your and they want more. I tell you they cant wait for the next chapter of this epic saga to unfold.

For those that support you, you are their heroes and they are cheering you. For those that hate you, well they love to hate you, so they will keep coming back for more.

And then there are those who are too afraid to take a stand. In silence they support the status quo, but they do dream of one day being freed from the subjugation of their SJW masters.They too are secretly cheering you on.



Blogger J A Baker September 03, 2016 9:12 PM  

And the reality is, what the Puppies have done, what they are doing, and continue to do, what they have started, is more interesting, exciting, creative, and ingenious than anything these SJW hacks could ever wish to do.

Blogger Aeoli Pera September 03, 2016 9:37 PM  

The truth is that having Jemisin replace Scalzi as the public face of Pink SF is about the best possible thing for Blue SF.

Burns like ice.

Blogger Alexandru September 03, 2016 10:08 PM  

Honestly, is her writing any good? I considered picking up her Hugo winner but saw that it was written in alternating present tense and 2nd person chapters. A style that I find unbearable. Is she a decent writer or is it just race hype?

Blogger The Other Robot September 03, 2016 10:11 PM  

I wonder what related works we can nominate for next year?

What serious works of SF&F?

It will be interesting.

Blogger The Other Robot September 03, 2016 10:12 PM  

@47: Let me read the portion from the Hugo packet and tell you.

Blogger The Other Robot September 03, 2016 10:17 PM  

@47: Now I regret making the offer. Look at this. It is crap:

Let’s start with the end of the world, why don’t we? Get it
over with and move on to more interesting things.

First, a personal ending. There is a thing she will think over
and over in the days to come, as she imagines how her son died
and tries to make sense of something so innately senseless. She
will cover Uche’s broken little body with a blanket—​­except his
face, because he is afraid of the ­dark—​­and she will sit beside it
numb, and she will pay no attention to the world that is ending
outside. The world has already ended within her, and neither
ending is for the first time. She’s old hat at this by now.

Blogger Alexandru September 03, 2016 10:20 PM  

@50 unbearable. I'm convinced all the tools that pimp this tripe lie about actually reading this crap.

Blogger James Dixon September 03, 2016 10:28 PM  

> Honestly, is her writing any good?

She won a Hugo post 1990. Doesn't that answer your question for you?

Blogger Leo Littlebook in Shenzhen September 03, 2016 10:47 PM  

So, when are you sending it back to Africa? Lincoln continued. You know, I starved a quarter of them despite a splitting headache. Glad to see they've kept trim.

But enough of trivialities. Have you considered, captain, dealing with Federation secessionists by equipping an enormous spherical ironclad with a planet-busting cannon? I feel certain Lucifer would Grant you one in exchange for your soul. I'll even split my commission with you, leaving you with a year of your childhood.

Blogger LP9 Solidified in Gold! Rin Integra September 03, 2016 10:53 PM  

Kicking baby puppies is cruel.

Overall Jk N has proved to be a failed type cast.

Great, more documentation on NK J - perfect. Great content too, NK J clearly does not understand insults and snarkissiism doesn't work.

Let us, let me remain for the beauty, honor, truth and appropriate worldviews fitting to our times. NKJem is on the wrong side of history, you own it and celebrate absurdity, I laugh as its morbid entertainment.

Dont care.

I will support and promote the alt right, to Mike Cerno, Milo to Vox Day to Stefan, to the game theoreticians whom reject and defy people like her. whatever - my support never wavers, so help me Lord - we want the best in reading (and listening to great podcasts) and Castalia House is King.

OT; Regarding HRC, both those in media whom heart the Clints and those whom are not fond of the Clints played into the narrative all Clints are above the law by the mere mention of "I'm sick", a common baby boomerism phenomena taunt to escape from their illegalities, murder inc. tendencies and total deception, social dominance, disregarding/any responsibility, appearing stupid but set for life with diehard believers on the surreal level of fading support for HRC's green and red clothing. The Clints along with NK J can have their pseudo elitism and utterly unfettered false path to coolness or power - but that power big or small dollars will curse them.

It is the men, the patriarchy whom rightfully run the show whom provide real content, reality and objectivity minus the regressive invective, snarky-cist, incoherent memes.

Blogger Thucydides September 03, 2016 10:53 PM  

Someone ask her if she is being nominated for a Dragon Award?

Should make her head explode....

Blogger LP9 Solidified in Gold! Rin Integra September 03, 2016 11:18 PM  

Edit: I errored, I'm sorry, I am only to speak for myself, per the rules which are to be abided by. I mean myself only, not ours or we, I just don't approve of NK Jem.

Blogger EscapeVelocity September 03, 2016 11:22 PM  

The bottom line is that the White Man educated the African savage and created advanced civilizaiton that produced Science Fiction literature.

Jemisin is merely aping the White Man, and she will always have to live with that underlying truth.

Anonymous Spartacus xxxxx September 03, 2016 11:29 PM  

kfg wrote:" . . . chopping off hands . . . they learned it from the Europeans."

The Arabs were there first.


The ancient Egyptians were there before before. Karnak(?) bas reliefs.

Anonymous BGKB September 03, 2016 11:43 PM  

Notice how anytime we talk about something, they think of it as code for something else.

I just washed my hair ;)

She cares enough to really, really make it clear (3 times) that she doesn't care.

As she danced counterclockwise around the room.

Blogger LP9 Solidified in Gold! Rin Integra September 03, 2016 11:47 PM  

50 it appears some like chaos, I somewhat enjoy chaos in that the problematic people are revealed for documentation purposes.

Blogger Lazarus September 04, 2016 12:10 AM  

There is a thing she will think over
and over in the days to come, as she imagines how her son died
and tries to make sense of something so innately senseless. She
will cover Uche’s broken little body with a blanket—​­except his
face, because he is afraid of the ­dark—​­and she will sit beside it
numb, and she will pay no attention to the world that is ending
outside. The world has already ended within her, and neither
ending is for the first time. She’s old hat at this by now.


How many abortions did the groid have?

Blogger Jordan179 September 04, 2016 1:33 AM  

How many abortions did the groid have?

Trick question. No one would have sex with N. K. Jemsin. :D

Anonymous Shut up rabbit September 04, 2016 3:38 AM  

Elocutioner wrote:I wonder, how many barbaric practices did Europeans learn from black Africa?

Procreating with whatever is the closest, not forming families and not caring a fig about their or their children's future since they'll all die from preventable diseases seems a pretty barbaric african import, but the kids are lovin' it...

Blogger IreneAthena September 04, 2016 3:39 AM  

So, you don't care that she doesn't care that you don't care. Got it.

Anonymous Shut up rabbit September 04, 2016 3:49 AM  

Alexandru wrote:Is she a decent writer or is it just race hype?

Come on, lauded and praised for years by the SF establishment, awarded everything going, worshipped by msm...and yet no one has heard of her or read her books!!! (sells less than a midlist, self-published author)

What do you think?

Anonymous George of the Jungle September 04, 2016 4:33 AM  

If blacks were prevented from appropriating white culture, they would be left with little except peanut butter to spread over their genitals.

Blogger Silly But True September 04, 2016 8:38 AM  

//Sigh// Yes, yes. It just had to be done.
http://captiongenerator.com/103826/Hitler-Doesnt-Care

Silly But True

Anonymous Mr. Rational September 04, 2016 10:52 AM  

DSW wrote:how come every country that was turned back over to blacks has gone to crap. Can you say Zimbabwe?
Speaking of which, the country is named after the Great Zimbabwe which is a complex of stone structures some hundreds of years old and unlike anything built by the locals before or since.  Supposedly there is no trace of the people who built it.

I don't buy that.  I'm certain that there are burials nearby, that they have been discovered... and that the evidence has been covered up because it is unflattering to Africans.  Specifically, it proved that Africans can have examples of high-functioning societies right in front of them, but cannot so much as ape them effectively.

Blogger Basta Con La Droga September 04, 2016 11:26 AM  

I usually read without prejudice, I really do. I don't care about the political views of an author, as long as he/she is a good writer. That being said, I gave "The Fifth Season" a go a few months ago because of the hype on goodreads and, go figure, I found it to be an utter load of wank. An absolute waste of money and time. Horrible, messy style, present tense (huge pet peeve of mine), and second person narration. I guess I'm not an avantgarde guy. The book, imho, sucks horse ballsacks.

Anonymous Avalanche September 04, 2016 2:06 PM  

@27 "There was no necklacing before the White man introduced gasoline."

And tires. Can't do it without teh tires.

Blogger ChickenChicken Sweep September 04, 2016 4:33 PM  

Our conversation has been edited for length and clarity.

"Even I, an "ally", found her to be a rambling, barely coherent waste of time. So I rewrote everything to make her look gooder."

I'm surprised all these SJW authors don't write in the second person, as lecturing the evilwhites to signal their own innate wonderfulness is the sole reason for their existence.

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