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Sunday, September 18, 2016

Trump goes transnational


This is from a Lega Nord rally in northern Italy. The man in the center of the picture is Matteo Salvini, a Euro MP and an official of the quasi-separatist Northern League, which favors independence for Padania, which is an artificial region which includes Toscana, Lombardia, and the Veneto, and has a population of 33 million. La Val Seriana is an area near Bergamo; beautiful country.

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43 Comments:

Blogger Rantor September 18, 2016 8:12 AM  

I have stayed in the hill country around Bergamo. It is wonderful, the people are friendly and the villages attractive. Food and wine are awesome. For some reason I always thought of the Northern League being active in the far North of Italy, good to know it is from Tuscany northward.

Now they just need some Deplorables T-shirts...

Anonymous nil September 18, 2016 8:29 AM  

Why don't discuss the situation on the ground in Italy more often? A lot of your readers would be very interested to learn about it

Anonymous SAK September 18, 2016 9:04 AM  

@2 Well, I guess he doesn't talk about Italy much as he might have few Italian readers.

But yeah, I would be fascinated by what is going on in Italy (and I am not Italian or Italy based). Especially with the upcoming referendum on constitutional reform.

Any idea which side will win that one?

Anonymous Philipp September 18, 2016 9:08 AM  

I remember Vox saying to Stean Molyneux that the young Italians have no white guilt or liberal guilt at all.

Blogger Ken S. September 18, 2016 9:25 AM  

He actually attended a Trump rally a few months ago and had a "meet and greet" with the Trumpster.

Blogger Cataline Sergius September 18, 2016 9:32 AM  

Is there a Ticino secessionist movement yet?

Anonymous andon September 18, 2016 9:34 AM  

4. Anonymous Philipp September 18, 2016 9:08 AM
I remember Vox saying to Stean Molyneux that the young Italians have no white guilt or liberal guilt at all.


I bet (((they))) will get on that

Blogger The Other Robot September 18, 2016 9:34 AM  

Off topic, but with some 770+ reviews this book by the Hildabeast and Kaine has a very large number of 1 star reviews.

Anonymous Roundtine September 18, 2016 9:37 AM  

Italians in America don't either, at least as recently as the 80s and early 90s, when they would hunt down and beat criminal blacks with baseball bats in NYC.

Anonymous Philipp September 18, 2016 9:45 AM  

@6: Cataline Sergius

Do you refer to the Swiss canton Ticino?

If yes, there is no secessionist movement. Not that I am aware of.

Blogger Morgan Holmes September 18, 2016 10:07 AM  

I see the Celtic triskelion symbol. A nod to their Cisalpine Gaulish roots.

Blogger Dire Badger September 18, 2016 10:08 AM  

I have a question....a little OT but, As a writer, does anyone think that Tim Kaine Giving the Nazi salute on the cover of Hillary's "Stronger Together" book was a really good idea?

OpenID imgrody September 18, 2016 10:08 AM  

Just had an Italian over at the ranch for a few months. He refered to southern Italy as "part of africa"

Blogger Duinne Eile September 18, 2016 10:28 AM  

Garibaldi did not unite Italy he divided Africa, or so they say in the north, a bit unfair IMO

Anonymous mature-Craig September 18, 2016 10:29 AM  

I hope Trump continues to make inroads into the African American vote... remember the republican party was originally founded on the abolition of slavery. ... before the democrats hijacked it in the 1930s .... I think this song in some ways represents the GOP attitude towards African Americans and how it should be "Baby come back" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wivXgn75lw

Anonymous Sheiko29 September 18, 2016 10:31 AM  

imgrody wrote:He refered to southern Italy as "part of africa"

Reminds me of the classic Hopper/Walken scene in True Romance...

Anonymous cheddarman September 18, 2016 10:33 AM  

That woman is mighty fine. She needs to do her part and make some babies with her husband.

Anonymous Psychedelic Cat Hair (formerly Tigersault) September 18, 2016 10:33 AM  

Awesome t-shirt. OT: Vox, I saw your doppelgänger at my church festival yesterday. I almost asked the guy for photo with me because he looked just like you.

Anonymous bobDobbs September 18, 2016 10:58 AM  

OT... Norton ConnectSafe is currently blocking voxday.blogspot.com, time to totally ditch Norton now.

Anonymous Oye September 18, 2016 11:02 AM  

@2 "Why don't discuss the situation on the ground in Italy more often? A lot of your readers would be very interested to learn about it."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/23/italian-teenagers-to-receive-500-cultural-bonus-from-government/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/08/31/half-a-million-young-italians-are-about-to-receive-free-money-to-stay-away-from-terrorism/

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tYSmGPI0naw

Take from it what you will.

Anonymous mature-Craig September 18, 2016 11:08 AM  

here's another good song about the Republican party and African Americans, that puts more of the onus on them instead of -blaming it all on the republicans- like in the other song, Trump is asking for their vote and support and in some ways , "its now or never... " https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAWLnNKmNZM

Anonymous St. Cecilia September 18, 2016 11:30 AM  

I'm Italian and those folks look like they're from Colombia or Chile.

Anonymous Emmanuel September 18, 2016 12:01 PM  

May God let France be "trumpised" too, very soon after he gets elected !

Blogger Cataline Sergius September 18, 2016 12:17 PM  

@10 Phillip

Yes and I was half-joking.

But these days it's only half.

Anonymous Shut up rabbit September 18, 2016 12:50 PM  

@13 My Milanese friend made me laugh explaining the difference between north and south Italy, he said:

"It's the difference between Scotland and..."

(then a long, deliberate pause while I expected him to finish with "London" or "SE England" or something similar)

"...and Africa!"

Blogger Servant of the Chief September 18, 2016 1:17 PM  

Can someone explain to me why the northern Italians view the southerners so disdainfully? I knew they were different but I always though the Sicilians and neapolitans were more greco than roman compared to the northerners and that was the height of it .

Blogger Ben Cohen September 18, 2016 1:29 PM  

Servant, I think it's because the South was constantly invaded by Muslims and Normans. When it was held by the Byzantines the population was largely Greek.

Blogger Duinne Eile September 18, 2016 1:31 PM  

I think pretty much every country in the world seems to have a north/south divide

Anonymous Shut up rabbit September 18, 2016 1:34 PM  

Servant of the Chief wrote:Can someone explain to me why the northern Italians view the southerners so disdainfully?

Perhaps because they let this happen?
https://youtu.be/fX73ggsMNEI

Anonymous fish September 18, 2016 1:43 PM  

OT: Oh my...it looks like somebody is coming to the realization that she's not going to be president!


https://news.grabien.com/story.php?id=518

Blogger Rantor September 18, 2016 2:37 PM  

@24 I've spent nearly a month in Naples, and about five months of my life in Northern Italy. Naples is trashy, chaotic, and a little crazy. They were having a trash strike before I got there and once that resolved the landfill went on strike... so trash hadn't been picked up in a while.

On the other hand there was some magnificent Italian food in Naples. Hard to say, but it was perhaps simpler than northern Italian food, but still quite good.

Northern Italy is almost like France or Austria, with more emotion and more aggressive driving. I could live there, sometimes I seriously consider it. Rent is cheap just outside Bergamo and between it and Milan you have access to about anything you could need.

Blogger seeingsights September 18, 2016 3:19 PM  

It is true that Italians don't have liberal guilt. Justice Scalia said that his ancestors didn't enslave anybody. Rudy Guliani was big on law enforcement.

Blogger pyrrhus September 18, 2016 3:26 PM  

@24 Because the southerners have a lot of African blood and are significantly less intelligent...whereas parts of northern Italy are on a par with Germany.

Blogger Ezekiel September 18, 2016 3:36 PM  

The League of the South drew inspiration from the Lega Nord. Glad to see that they're still going strong over there.

My family once had this wild scheme of buying one of the abandoned farms or villages in Spain and setting up our own homestead (most of us either used to be farmers or had parents that were, and we want to go back to doing that).

May still try it if Hillary wins, though I've often wondered if Italy would be a better choice than Spain.

Blogger Ezekiel September 18, 2016 3:43 PM  

Duinne Eile wrote:I think pretty much every country in the world seems to have a north/south divide
Any any country of appreciably size? Probably. This should not be surprising; different climates give rise to different kinds of people.

Anonymous mature-craig September 18, 2016 3:46 PM  

one more musical representation of the GOP / African American vote courtship process... this one spans a long period from 1870 then on into a future yet unseen period where there is a massive love affair between African Americans and the GOP. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5CUfVm1Si8

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Anonymous elmer September 18, 2016 4:12 PM  

Cambodians for Trump!

http://wp.me/p6QFjS-bT

Anonymous mature-Craig September 18, 2016 4:20 PM  

should have quit while I was ahead ... 10:29 and 11:08 were pretty good... im not happy with 3:46 thinking about it a bit more,

Anonymous mature-Craig September 18, 2016 4:25 PM  

3:46 is more me projecting own personal long standing ongoing love affair with the African Americans onto the GOP... it just makes things awkward, sorry about that . me and the GOP are similar but not exactly the same thing

Anonymous Avalanche September 18, 2016 8:34 PM  

Oh dear god... Wandered across this from a link above. Is it any wonder the Europeans are mostly NOT trying to fight back?! (Although I suppose they have no choice, but I just added another handgun to my "armory." Y'all should too!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4K4okVa7dU

Blogger Magnifico September 18, 2016 9:25 PM  

pyrrhus,
My grandparents are all from southern Italy, no african blood there. Some of my Sicilian relatives even have blond hair and blues. It's a big fallacy. And it's also true Italians here in the USA don't have liberal guilt.

Blogger residentMoron September 18, 2016 9:38 PM  

It's funny. The Germans look at the Bavarians and say they're not really German. Lazy beer-swilling southrons.

The bavarians say the same of the Italians

The northern Italians say the same of the southern Italians.

The southern Italians say the northern Italians are not really Italians and refer to them as Fritz.

The funny thing is, they're probably all correct.

Blogger CarpeOro September 19, 2016 11:10 AM  

Southern Italy (Naples down into Sicily) - Magna Gracia (Greater Greece) since before there was a Roman Republic. Northern Italy - Lombardi - Name comes from the Lombards, a Germanic tribe that conquered the entire north of Italy and ruled it until Charlemagne conquered it. With people living most of their lives within a 100 miles or less of where they were born, the ethnic features of a locale remained unique to the locale for most of known history. You don't even need to go as far as North/South divide. A guy of Calabrian descent told me his grandfather would say you just can't trust those guys from the other side of the mountain.

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