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Wednesday, September 21, 2016

White Democrats move to Trump

Identity always trumps ideology, if you'll excuse an obvious pun:
On Como Street in Struthers, where CBS News spent a recent weekend knocking on every door on the block, Skook was in the minority. All around her, the community was ditching their Democratic roots and flocking to Trump.

Paul Sracic, who has lived in the area for years and is chair of the department of politics and international relations at Youngstown University, described Trump’s “blue-collar billionaire” identity as the perfect cocktail to attract onetime Democrats here.

“They know he’s not really a Republican, and that Mitt Romney hates him, so that helps,” Psaric said of the voters in his community. “So instead it’s like, ‘I’m not becoming a country club Republican, I’m a part of Trump’s party.’”

The story of these defections goes back to March when over 6,171 registered Democrats voted in the GOP primary that was a showdown between Trump and Ohio Gov. John Kasich. Even the Democratic mayor of Struthers was caught with a Trump For President sign in his front yard.

But the Democrats here have not come back home. Instead, many of them are still looking to Trump.
I note that Donald Trump has gained 11 points in the battleground state of North Carolina, going from -9 to +2 and taking the lead in the RCP state average. It's too soon to confirm it, but all the indicators of the coming Trumpslide are sliding into place.

I doubt the Charlotte "riots" are hurting Trump any either.

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Anonymous Hezekiah Garrett September 21, 2016 5:24 PM  

You're finally gonna get a political prediction right! [ducks]

I'm grateful, personally, if you are right.

Blogger S1AL September 21, 2016 5:25 PM  

A liberal-leaning moderate friend of mine (who lives in Boston) once commented that he didn't understand how I, as a member of the "blue collar middle class" (technically, but not really) could possibly be a Republican. There's a perception among middle class white collar Democrats and "working class" union Democrats that the Republican party is solely composed of rural religious hicks and wealthy finance types. Trump is changing that perception.

Blogger guest September 21, 2016 5:28 PM  

I guess I owe Democrats an apology. I honestly believed that they were switching in the primaries, to vote for the most least electable candidate so it would be easy for Clinton to beat him.

Anonymous Dave September 21, 2016 5:32 PM  

Trump's recent tweets:

"It is a MOVEMENT - not a campaign. Leaving the past behind, changing our future. Together, we will MAKE AMERICA SAFE AND GREAT AGAIN!

"Amazing rally in Florida - this is a MOVEMENT! Join us today at http://www.DonaldJTrump.com"

Blogger dh September 21, 2016 5:39 PM  

> I guess I owe Democrats an apology. I honestly believed that they were switching in the primaries, to vote for the most least electable candidate so it would be easy for Clinton to beat him.

This has always been a GOP strategist fantasy/slur. But there is little evidence that this has ever happened with real numbers.

People vote for who they want to win. There has never been any evidence of widescale strategic voting.

Blogger Johnny September 21, 2016 5:40 PM  

The other side (I hope) is overplaying its hand. We live in dangerous times.

Anonymous patrick kelly September 21, 2016 5:45 PM  

"It is a MOVEMENT.."

Heh, even a bowel movement would improve things.

Anonymous a deplorable rubberducky September 21, 2016 5:46 PM  

dh@5 To the contrary, cross-party meddling is known factor in the recent re-election of Thad Cochran of Mississippi, where Democrats crossed party lines in the primary to derail his Tea Party opponent.

It also happens every six years in South Carolina senate primaries, explaining why conservatives can't defeat Lindsey Graham, whom they despise.

Blogger #7139 September 21, 2016 5:46 PM  

@Tiny Duck

Drop dead.

Anonymous BGKB September 21, 2016 5:46 PM  

Just how poisonious is seeing a Kennedy with GHW Bush with both supporting HiLIARy for the democrats?

Romney would beat Obama. We all know what happened.

Eric Holder said if they couldn't stop VOTER ID in PA Obama would lose.

Blogger VFM #7634 September 21, 2016 5:48 PM  

@Tiny Dick

Do you honestly believe that bullshit you're peddling?

@rubberducky
I know a loudmouthed leftie college kid who voted for Trump in the primary because he thought it would guarantee a Republican loss in the general election.

Blogger Big Griz September 21, 2016 5:50 PM  

Tiny Duck.

Don't all you points apply to Hillary supporters?

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents September 21, 2016 5:58 PM  

Pretty sure this happened in 1980 as well, maybe dh can research that for us?

Then George Herbert Walker Bush came along and assumed the Reagan Democrats would pull the R lever no matter what.

Whatever the GOP becomes it has to surgically remove the GOPe from itself in order to survive at all.

Blogger Fenris Wulf September 21, 2016 5:58 PM  

@3. Early in the primaries, I had the distinct impression that the MSM was giving a disproportionate amount of coverage to Trump just for the lulz. "You won't believe what the idiot said today, hurr durr. Hey, wouldn't it be funny if he actually got the nomination?"

Blogger ace September 21, 2016 6:00 PM  

'See, the republicans I used to hate also hate him!'

The Nevertrump globocucks are such consummate losers that when they migrated to the democratic party they made it worse. I can almost taste the irony. It tastes like copper.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents September 21, 2016 6:01 PM  

A VFM asks some troll:

Do you honestly believe that bullshit you're peddling?


What, in the end, difference does it make?
Expect more FUD peddlers in the weeks to come. Desperation is setting into those that employ them.

Meanwhile we just laugh.

Trump 2016 - for the LOLZ!

Anonymous cheddarman September 21, 2016 6:07 PM  

I would rather it be a Nate-slide for "Emperor of all Southron and Scotts-Irish Belt peoples," but i will take the Trump slide

Blogger Bard September 21, 2016 6:07 PM  

The media has doubled down on negative trump coverage so many times that they ran out of chips. No one cares what they say anymore.

Blogger Mountain Man September 21, 2016 6:13 PM  

Then there is:

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/09/21/surprise-that-will-end-trump-globalists-registering-8-million/

Any predictions or insights on whether or not this will impact the outcome.
(I personally pray it wont)

Blogger bob k. mando ( the hardest troll here ) September 21, 2016 6:20 PM  

VD
I doubt the Charlotte "riots" are hurting Trump any either.


the problem with motivating the ~11% of the electorate which is Black via rioting ...

is that you also motivate the ~85% of the electorate which is getting their shit stolen and destroyed.

Dems need to walk a fine line of riling up Blacks and simultaneously NOT riling up everyone else.


unfortunately for them, Blacks haven't the strategic thinking necessary to realize this or the deferred gratification necessary to damp these incidences down.

Blogger Al From Bay Shore September 21, 2016 6:21 PM  

I'm going off topic. I apologize for this but can someone bring me up to speed on the Sargon drama? And yes, I don't see how this new "round" of riots/ violence (which is essentially anti-Black) affects the Trumpmentum.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan September 21, 2016 6:24 PM  

I wonder how much juice "oh poor black people" has as a marker of sophistication and virtue? I'll guess it is pretty thin on the ground so I hope BLM doubles down

Blogger Johnny September 21, 2016 6:27 PM  

@20

Or to say it my way, the other side is overplaying its hand. Or so I hope.

Anonymous frostyamoeba September 21, 2016 6:29 PM  

While I left the Democratic camp two years ago when I finally grew too disgusted at their toleration of anti-American anti-Western radicalism, I didn't switch to Republican until Mr. Trump. The answer is the same reason I haven't voted Republican before: most Republican leaders are obvious globalist scum who would sell their people out for a handful of copper coins. Warmongering neocon traitor McCain? Profitable-American-jobs-exporting globalist corporate raider Romney?

bwahahaha
NO.

Now that an American patriot leads the Republican party, expect more Dems to switch and stay. Go back to Bush/Romney treason, and we are GONE.

Blogger Al From Bay Shore September 21, 2016 6:31 PM  

@22 I too hope that the Soros funded BLM doubles down. BLM seems to me to be the logical extension of the Civil Rights Movement. I sooooooooo want the Civil Rights movement to be "tainted". The Civil Rights Movement was socialist/ DuBoisian nonsense. It was the Civil Rights Movement that destroyed the Black community with their half-baked ideologies and ensuing strategies. I am coming to develop a severe hatred for Dr. Alvin Poussaint.

My rant is over.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan September 21, 2016 6:38 PM  

The racist angle is about over it is down to being mean girls gossip level of credibility.

I might be alt-white but we can all be grown up about the issues instead of idiot bigotry which in no way reflects confidence

Anonymous Roundtine September 21, 2016 6:44 PM  

can someone bring me up to speed on the Sargon drama?

Go on Twitter. It started as a debate about identity politics in the morning. I just checked, his feed is full of gay porn (he's tweeting it at Alt-Right).

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 21, 2016 6:44 PM  

Mountain Man wrote:Then there is: http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/09/21/surprise-that-will-end-trump-globalists-registering-8-million/

Any predictions or insights on whether or not this will impact the outcome.

(I personally pray it wont)

Almost completely irrelevant. It is difficult to nearly impossible, depending on which state, to register to vote from abroad. You also have to have an in-state address of record. The deadline is Oct 9, 30 days before the election. For the few who will actually bother to register, they have to get the ballot returned by Nov 8. In many states, that's an absolute deadline for receiving the ballot not a postmark. Those votes will go to the state of residence, and could only possibly make a difference in the swingiest of swing states. Florida mostly.

There's a good reason no campaign has been desperate enough to try this before. Very low rate of return. It's a lot easier, cheaper, and more certain to just buy votes.

It is funny that an article about a (((Soros)))-funded initiative, with a Hebrew name, to get ex-pats to register to vote from (((foreign countries))) would focus on Britain, when the real action is (((elsewhere))).

It's obvious that this is an attempt to get the vote of Israelis that still have US citizenship. Which means? California and New York have a few more Hillary voters? So what?

Anonymous RSZ September 21, 2016 6:46 PM  

Just for fun http://railstationzero.deviantart.com/art/DC-Comics-Presents-457-635683992

A Trumpslide against the jaw.

Blogger Al From Bay Shore September 21, 2016 6:49 PM  

@27 I appreciate ya' for the 411. I saw the gay porn. I'm tryna' get some context now.

Blogger weka September 21, 2016 6:53 PM  

And the shipping are blocking anyone who questions the narrative while trying to get all to disavow Sargon

Blogger weka September 21, 2016 6:54 PM  

Shitlibs

Anonymous BGKB September 21, 2016 6:57 PM  

MILO TRIGGERS FURRIES http://heatst.com/tech/furries-angry-with-milo-for-appropriating-their-culture/
"Alt right provocateur and Breitbart tech editor Milo Yiannopoulos angered the furry community yesterday by posting a drawing to Facebook that someone made of Milo as a snow leopard."

Clintons try to make drug resistant AIDS. Obama removed HIV travel ban.
http://www.gaypatriot.net/2016/09/21/did-the-clinton-foundation-placebo-effect-african-aids-drugs/
"Former President Bill Clinton and his Clinton Health Access Initiative (CHAI) distributed “watered-down” HIV/AIDs drugs to patients in sub-Saharan Africa"

Blogger Jakob Niedzwiecki September 21, 2016 6:57 PM  

#RememberBrexit

Blogger bob k. mando ( the hardest troll here ) September 21, 2016 6:59 PM  

THAT was a correction that needed making. i was scratching my head trying to figure out what the Baltic Dry had to do with this.

Blogger bob k. mando ( the hardest troll here ) September 21, 2016 6:59 PM  

THAT was a correction that needed making. i was scratching my head trying to figure out what the Baltic Dry had to do with this.

Blogger tz September 21, 2016 7:03 PM  

Country club Republicans?
Bushes and Romney?
The Country has clubbed these RINOs.

Blogger Chris Mallory September 21, 2016 7:12 PM  

Playing around with demographics/share of the vote/voter turn out by race, Trump needs 63-64% of the white vote to win.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2015/08/26/demographics_and_the_2016_election_scenarios.html

Anonymous DT September 21, 2016 7:16 PM  

I have to admit I was pretty down about Trump's chances after the Democratic National Convention. It was disheartening to see 8-10 point spreads for Hilldabeast. The polls are biased, but not that biased.

I'm still nervous. But Trump has managed to shatter her lead in the past month. If the momentum keeps going in his direction there may indeed be a Trumpslide.

If she falls again, or shows any physical weakness in the debates, her campaign is done.

Blogger lowercaseb (Soft as Pudding) September 21, 2016 7:24 PM  

DT wrote:If she falls again, or shows any physical weakness in the debates, her campaign is done.

That's probably why they will fill her full of Kennedy's back medication.

Anonymous JAG September 21, 2016 7:44 PM  

Al From Bay Shore wrote:I'm going off topic. I apologize for this but can someone bring me up to speed on the Sargon drama? And yes, I don't see how this new "round" of riots/ violence (which is essentially anti-Black) affects the Trumpmentum.

He's jumped the shark, and cucked out big time which I fully expected. He's losing his audience so he's lashing out in a typical gamma fashion.

Blogger Nick S September 21, 2016 7:49 PM  

DT wrote:I'm still nervous.

I'm still nervous Trump might end up getting Vince Fostered If the globalists loose hope too early.

Blogger Al From Bay Shore September 21, 2016 8:05 PM  

@41 is it too much to ask to explain how he jumped the shark and having "cucked out"? I thought the dude was an associate like Milo. From what I've read thus far, this seems a dust up of minor proportions. I still need to read more so pardon my ignorance.

I have a dreadful tendency of being a day late and a dollar short so please forgive.

Blogger James Dixon September 21, 2016 8:08 PM  

As I told my wife, for someone so "educated" and informed, Ms. Skook seems awfully slow on the uptake. Somehow I doubt the neighbors on the other sides have her problem.

Blogger pyrrhus September 21, 2016 8:39 PM  

Trump's huge advantage remains the fact that he is that he is not a Republican....

Blogger J A Baker September 21, 2016 8:39 PM  

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Blogger J A Baker September 21, 2016 8:40 PM  

Trump is the real unifier of this race. While Hillary is calling us irredeemable and deplorabl8e, Trump is reaching across the party lines and pulling over moderate dens because the democratic party has gone so far to the left and become so extreme that most democrats don't feel welcome in their own party anymore.

Anonymous Napoleon 12pdr September 21, 2016 8:40 PM  

@13
Bingo! You're right. Trump is assembling the old Reagan coalition, rallying the lower middle class voters the Dems abandoned. If he can sound credible in the debates, I think he'll win.

Anonymous BGKB September 21, 2016 8:42 PM  

NYC bomber sister supports jihad on twitter https://twitter.com/eksymons/status/778409846483853312/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Anonymous Bobby Farr September 21, 2016 8:54 PM  

According to Cruz's old supporters and cucks more generally, this is evidence that Trump is really a Dem and not right wing.

Anonymous BGKB September 21, 2016 9:06 PM  

Even I didn't hear about this on Monday, this is just the kind of news TRUMP needs people knowing about. http://pamelageller.com/2016/09/masked-jihadi-enters-elementary-school-in-utah-bomb-squad-and-snipers-at-scene-live-video.html/

Anonymous Hezekiah Garrett September 21, 2016 9:11 PM  

@44 I assume you refer to the peeing.

Blogger TontoBubbaGoldstein September 21, 2016 9:14 PM  

cheddarman wrote:I would rather it be a Nate-slide for "Emperor of all Southron and Scotts-Irish Belt peoples," but i will take the Trump slide

Maybe Trump could refer to Hillary as "Sugartits" in the upcoming debate?

That is if she even shows up.

Blogger James Dixon September 21, 2016 9:19 PM  

> I assume you refer to...

Correct.

> Maybe Trump could refer to Hillary as "Sugartits" in the upcoming debate?

Wasted effort. He'll already carry the south. It's the north he needs. Calling her a bitch to her face might be more effective with NY'ers.

Blogger Retrenched September 21, 2016 9:29 PM  

Bernie's campaign will be remembered as the last hurrah for the white left. The future is a black and brown left against a white right. The white left is done.

Blogger chris September 21, 2016 9:44 PM  

What kind of effect do you think the 8 million 'global' citizens that Soros is getting to the polls will have on the Presidential election?

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/09/21/surprise-that-will-end-trump-globalists-registering-8-million/

I'm not a US citizen so I have no idea.

Blogger Mountain Man September 21, 2016 10:10 PM  

"The white left is done."

Good. Moving forward it will make the enemies that much easier to identify.

Anonymous JNorth September 21, 2016 10:37 PM  

@56 very little, they are almost out of time and many of those 8 million no longer have a state side residence which means they can not register. The are also spread out all over the country so they are not any sort of "block".

Blogger Rud September 21, 2016 10:41 PM  

A liberal-leaning moderate friend of mine (who lives in Boston) once commented that he didn't understand how I, as a member of the "blue collar middle class" (technically, but not really) could possibly be a Republican.

With how the entire mechanism of government and academia and particularly the Democrat Party vilify Whites non-stop, I can't imagine how any self-respecting white person could still vote for a Democrat.

Anonymous Hezekiah Garrett September 21, 2016 10:59 PM  

So Hillary is trying to court the handicapped vote.

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRn972cnTZZwXbpVHFeiww55sYK0GU7R2fCft-CeP6Xh7FpAeMT

Someone should tell her impersonating Nathan from South Park ain't gonna cut it.

Blogger seeingsights September 21, 2016 11:50 PM  

Trump's campaign is like Nixon's in 1968 and 1972.
Nixon made himself the candidate for Middle America. Nixon got the support of Southern whites, and the ethnics in the North--groups that usually voted Democrat in local elections.
I came across a newspaper headline from those days that Nixon got the support of a union.
I came across another newspaper article from 1972 that Nixon got support from a few Democratic aldermen in the Chicago City Council.
Nixon got about 60 percent of vote, won 49 states, in 1972.
It is easy to say that the way to win is to get the support of the middle and working class.
But campaigning for that support is difficult, for powerful interests who are not good for the middle class--these interests are for "Invade the world, invite the world"--have a mighty influence on the primaries.

Blogger Rambam September 22, 2016 12:05 AM  

This election is a farce, a joke. Hillary is not even campaigning. Now I hear she may not debate as scheduled. Lock down coming soon. Say goodbye to vox and internet.

Blogger Rambam September 22, 2016 12:11 AM  

This election is a farce, a joke. Hillary is not even campaigning. Now I hear she may not debate as scheduled. Lock down coming soon. Say goodbye to vox and internet.

Blogger GFR September 22, 2016 12:12 AM  

why dont the republicans vote for a liberal democrat to get rid of gramnesty and then vote for a conservative next time?

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 22, 2016 1:36 AM  

I came across a newspaper headline from those days that Nixon got the support of a union.

nixon mostly stood to one side as the Communists took over the Dem party. 1968 was the year of "street action", where the New Left made a play to take over the Democrat party. 1972 is the election after they succeeded.

The violence of the Dem national convention in 1968 shocked the nation. Literal riots in the streets, bombings, snipers, everything they were afraid about the conventions this year, actually happened in Chicago in 1968.

By 1972, the Feminists, Academic Left, the New Left and the straight-up Communists had taken over the Dem party, much as the neo-Cons took over the GOP during the Clinton administration. McGovern was the candidate of the idiot Left. It took until 1992 and Bill Clinton for the Dem party to recover from his candidacy.

The union that supported Nixon was the teamsters. Nixon won their support by being the only anti-Communist in the race. Even my mother, whose father was a Democrat county politician and the state campaign co-ordinator for a Democrat presidential candidate, voted for Nixon in 1972. As she put it "Well, Nixon's a crook, but McGovern's either a Communist or an idiot. We've gotten along okay despite crooked presidents before."

Literally, look him up. McGovern was to the right of Hillary, but to the Left of every single major party candidate before 2008. This is not the first win or die election this country has faced.

Anonymous Jack Amok September 22, 2016 3:25 AM  

This is not the first win or die election this country has faced.

No, it's not. But there's the distinct possibility we may not have won all of the previous ones, and - like Bruce Willis in The Sixth Sense - just haven't realized it yet.

OpenID aew51183 September 22, 2016 6:53 AM  

@66

The election you're looking for that we "lost" was Reagan.

That idiot signed the 1986 amnesty and turned California into a uniparty Democratic firewall.

Anonymous Joe Blowe September 22, 2016 8:52 AM  

@67

Reagan also ensured the ascendancy of the Bush/Clinton Crime Syndicate by making ex-CIA Commander George "New World Order" Bush his VP.

Anonymous BGKB September 22, 2016 10:45 AM  

very little, they are almost out of time and many of those 8 million no longer have a state side residence which means

Yea because Soros and the left wouldn't do voter fraud. Soros probably rented one apartment in every state to be the homes of the 8 million. I wouldn't put it past them to sign up illiterate Somalias in London to vote in the US

Blogger horsewithnonick September 22, 2016 2:45 PM  

Something occurred to me today, while I was trying to make sense of Trump's 'stop-and-frisk' remark:

It looks to me like a Presidential candidate, in the middle of his campaign, is spitballing with the whole country, brainstorming out in public. It explains why he will come up with incompatible proposals on different days, and why some of the things he suggests are wildly impractical or unconstitutional - brainstorming is about bad ideas as much as good ones. One contributor's dead-end thought might be the catalyst that results in someone else's billion-dollar idea.

If that is really what is going on here - and I might just be sniffing too much glue - it's...kind of revolutionary.

Blogger bosscauser September 22, 2016 5:53 PM  

Diddos.No discernible difference amongst the elites in either party.
Let's go #Trump and hurry!

Blogger world entertainment September 24, 2016 3:21 AM  

It looks to me like a Presidential candidate, in the middle of his campaign, is spitballing with the whole country, brainstorming out in public. It explains why he will come up with incompatible proposals on different days, and why some of the things he suggests are wildly impractical or unconstitutional - brainstorming is about bad ideas as much as good ones. One contributor's dead-end thought might be the catalyst that results in someone else's billion-dollar idea.

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