Cheese, pasta, and John Podesta
From the most recent WikiLeaks batch of emails:
But when one realizes that this is the residence that features an 8-foot tall sculpture of a Dahmer victim, one starts to wonder if, in fact, everything is quite as mundane as it seems. Especially in light of this email from John Podesta concerning cheese, pasta, and possibly, pederasty.
From:eryn.sepp@gmail.comTalk about the banality of evil! Now, this could simply be an innocent get-together by a pair of related couples with another married couple, although it strikes me as a little unusual that the Mahbubanis, whoever they are, are going to be doing the cooking at the Tony Podesta residence.
To: hkliegman@podestagroup.com
CC: john.podesta@gmail.com, podesta.mary@gmail.com
Date: 2015-06-01 18:31
Subject: Re: Dinner on Saturday
Hi Heather-- I show them attending.
John and Mary, let me know if this is in error.
On Jun 1, 2015, at 4:09 PM, Heather Kliegmanwrote:
Hi John and Mary,
Tony was wondering if you planned on joining him for dinner on Saturday at his house, Amrita and Ashok Mahbubani will be coming up and cooking.
I believe they plan to get started around 7p, please let me know if you plan on joining.
Thanks,
Heather
But when one realizes that this is the residence that features an 8-foot tall sculpture of a Dahmer victim, one starts to wonder if, in fact, everything is quite as mundane as it seems. Especially in light of this email from John Podesta concerning cheese, pasta, and possibly, pederasty.
From:john.podesta@gmail.com"Yummy"? Who says that? When is sending a different gift "changing strategies"? And what does "playing dominos on pasta" versus playing it on cheese mean? Keep in mind this is a billionaire expressing such childish excitement over "a lovely, tempting assortment of cheeses." Do you buy that? Do you really still believe Mike Cernovich is wrong and they're not communicating openly about illegal activities in code?
To: hms@sandlerfoundation.org
CC: podesta.mary@gmail.com
Date: 2015-12-24 21:42
Subject: Re: Cheese
Miss you Herb.
Happy Holidays and see you in 2016.
On Thursday, December 24, 2015, Sandler, Herbertwrote:
Mary and John
I think you should give notice when changing strategies which have been
long in place. I immediately realized something was different by the shape
of the box and I contemplated who would be sending me something in the
square shaped box. Lo and behold, instead of pasta and wonderful sauces, it
was a lovely, tempting assortment of cheeses, Yummy. I am awaiting the
return of my children and grandchildren from their holiday travels so that
we can demolish them.
Thank you so much. I hope you and your gang are well.
I miss you both
Best wishes fro a merry Christmas and Happy New Year.
Herb
Ps. Do you think I’ll do better playing dominos on cheese than on pasta?
Labels: conspiracy, politics
168 Comments:
"Ps. Do you think I’ll do better playing dominos on cheese than on pasta?"
most of the stuff is explainable... which doesn't mean anything one way or another... after all code is useless if it doesn't provide cover.
But that sentence makes no sense what-so-ever.
One of the female characters in Eyes Wide Shut is named Domino. And domino masks are often worn at elite parties, particularly those with an adult theme.
Off subject : could someone be kind enough to tell me (European) whether it is normal practice in the US for the outgoing president to actively take sides in the campaign ? Is he not the president of all Americans ?
Not sure if serious or further trolling the "think about your credibility/we're just here to laugh at you" shills. In either case, I don't think it matters; it'll have the desired outcome.
'One of the female characters in Eyes Wide Shut is named Domino. And domino masks are often worn at elite parties, particularly those with an adult theme'
Right. and that's what i mean. while some of this stuff can come across as just normal everyday communication (which is the point) this playing dominos on cheese or pasta doesn't. its word salad.
"Off subject : could someone be kind enough to tell me (European) whether it is normal practice in the US for the outgoing president to actively take sides in the campaign ? "
it is a normal practice. Clinton campaigned for Gore for example.
A picture on the wall of Podesta's office:
http://hw.infowars.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/podesta-cannibal-art800.jpg
IT"S JUST ART JEEZE LOL RUBES
Right. and that's what i mean. while some of this stuff can come across as just normal everyday communication (which is the point) this playing dominos on cheese or pasta doesn't. its word salad.
When wearing domino masks while choosing from the "buffet". The "diners" will not be recognized by the "food" .
Unrelated but in Covington's novels the fast food lexicon was used as code, and as explained it was easy to hide behind such a popular wide spread lexicon.
And not till someone is flipped will any of this make sense unless there is an email with literal translations side by side with the code speak.
Best wishes fro a merry Christmas and Happy New Year.
Also this Herb character tells John Podesta "merry Christmas"; doesn't capitalize the merry, and misspells "for"?
It's so blatant how did we not see this before now?
@ 6
Hopefully Obama campaigning for Clinton will have a similar effect.
"When wearing domino masks while choosing from the "buffet". The "diners" will not be recognized by the "food" . "
Yes. I know it makes sense when you understand the code. The point is, this is one is a big tell, because it does not make sense if you don't know the code.
its like a big flashing sign that says "THIS IS CODE"
I could be convinced that Obama was not concerned about the optics of spending $60,000+ on shipping pizza and dogs from Chicago to DC, but these latest just sound weird.
Who talks that way about pizza and cheese? You might say pungent or sharp or bitter or whatever about cheese, but yummy?
"Is he not the president of all Americans ?"
He's not the president of ANY Americans. Americans don't have a president, our government has one. He's just the holder of an office that does (or is supposed to do) certain things. He has no mystical cosmic sway over anybody. Or at least he didn't used to.
@3 Johnny Dowd:
Off subject : could someone be kind enough to tell me (European) whether it is normal practice in the US for the outgoing president to actively take sides in the campaign ? Is he not the president of all Americans?
In addition to the historical example Nate @6 pointed out, of Clinton campaigning for Gore, in all the recent examples I can think of, the President was campaigning for someone he'd already in theory chosen as a good choice for his administration and therefore in theory the country. Usually vice presidents, in this case, a secretary of state, traditionally one of the very most important US cabinet posts, that person is supposed to keep us out of wars (yes, I know, stop laughing).
As I have said the Left is a huge trolling operation against normal people, they must get off on having normies point and sputter at their obscenities. This is all part and parcel of the mindfuck of breaking people like the cucks, guilt and derision and then a person is broken and welcomed into degradation with a tiny bit of care.
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Podestrary.
Podestraist.
@13 Cheese can be yummy, but the word choice is all suspect. I think it's either these people write like teenagers, or their writing is degraded by trying to encode things.
And it might be since I didn't delve into the pedophilia codewords, but in this case I'm reading cheese and pasta as drugs. So the last bit becomes something like "Molesting kids on coke might be different than doing so on ecstasy."
This is a signal to her followers, they know something bad is coming "http://www.businessinsider.com/clinton-wikileaks-jennifer-palmieri-whopper-emails-2016-11"
Starting the discrediting and spin it's all fake now.
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How did the hackers know to go after Podesta's email specifically?
OT - headed to see the Donald in Minneapolis. As I've said, if he's got a shot in Cucksota, her cankleness is doomed.
Here's the thing: normal men don't tallk that way. There are no references to pasta, sauce, or cheese in any of my emails with friends. There might be a reference to pizza and beer when watching a game together. Even if it was a matter of coordinating a dinner party, we'd simply tell the wives to talk to each other. The only tome we might actually discuss food is when talking about the best way to bbq ribs. These emails are beyond creepy. Normal heterosexual men do not do that or say that.
I can see how you might excuse any one, or perhaps even two items out of the entire list occurring. But beyond that it starts to sound a bit too weird for coincidence. We're at the pedophilia and occult practices ("art" or otherwise) stage. By the time N hits 20 or so (more?), you might actually start wondering if actual human sacrifice could possibly be involved.
It sounds like it's about to hit widespread awareness either way, whether through further leaks, or an actual government response. There must be no end to the dirt that these sickos have on each other. If actual video is leaked...
The Mahbubanis run a charity that does work in Haiti... And for a woman's heart disease center. Nothing to see here. It's a charity for Haitian youth.
Dominoes are often called 'bones' (Rush's song 'Roll the Bones' refers to the throwing of the game pieces). Bone is a slang for erection.
'Domino' is also, if the urban dictionary is to be believed, slang for vagina, but in a derogatory way, seemingly like calling someone a 'cunt'.
Same source refers to 'pasta bake' as slang for masturbate.
Best guess I can come up with is "Wow, usually you just send me child porn to wank to, but this time you scored me something that really gives me a bone!"
I wish I knew WTH 'cheese' had to do with any of this. As with everyone else, I'm really scratching my head over the final remark.
Maybe what is going on is that there is a causal association of these words with sexuality, and so it is all kind of playful guess what is in the box erotica. Not indicating anything in particular except for the outside the bounds of acceptability sexuality. If so guilt would depend on what they actually do, and the dialogue would only be hints.
@19 BrerFox
Your theory makes as much sense as anything here. "Playing dominoes" on "cheese" vs. on "pasta" ... plus "changing strategies" and the different boxes the "cheese", "pasta", and "wonderful sauces" are apparently delivered in.
@20 ditto, very telling that Voldecunt wants everyone to not look at the coming leaks.
@Brerfox - just saw this on Reddit; makes sense but are these people really emailing each other about playing dominoes and doing drugs?
Do you think I’ll do better playing dominos on cheese (cocaine/heroin) than on pasta (marijuana)?"
Blue Cheese - a stain of marijuana. Usually used as a painkiller because you can smoke it and still be alert/energetic.
hot dogs -LSD, probably in sugar cube form served by "waitresses"
hot dog stand - LSD/drug house, place to chill out while you trip out
pizza - psychedelics, most likely magic mushrooms
cooking/dinner - drug sessions
Kale - marijuana, possibly specifying indica (high-THC)
sauce - cannabis/hash oil or possibly cocaine
Walnuts - shrooms, specifically Magic Truffles/Philosopher Stones, higher psilocybine content than typical shrooms
Thanks to Nate and That Would be Telling.
"I am awaiting the
return of my children and grandchildren from their holiday travels so that
we can demolish them."
That is straightforward enough.
Matthew wrote:How did the hackers know to go after Podesta's email specifically?
http://voxday.blogspot.ca/2016/11/bill-hillary-and-lolita-express.html
This just in: 'Cheese Pizza' is code for child porn.
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I wish I knew WTH 'cheese' had to do with any of this. As with everyone else, I'm really scratching my head over the final remark.
Would it make sense if cheese meant a little girl and pasta meant a little boy?
"I am awaiting the return of my children and grandchildren from their holiday travels so that we can demolish them."
WTF?
Not sure I've seen anyone point to this. There's another, earlier email referring to Dominos here: https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/34860.
Could be code, or it could explain the later email (i.e., he was playing dominos "on" pasta in July, didn't play well, and was joking he would play better "on" cheese next time they played).
If cheese pizza is child porn, we might extrapolate that a yummy assortment of cheeses would be multiple children.
Eight-year olds, Dude.
I've long wondered about the agenda driving the gay marriage propaganda barrage without being able to settle on an explanation that makes sense. If there's some substance to this code, we have an explanation.
@31 That sounds like so much diversion to me. Perhaps a variant on concern trolling. This is not describing the talk or deeds of stoners. There are already known occult rituals occurring (with or without John Podesta). And odd references to children in questionable situations.
Herb & Marion Sandler (hms@sandlerfoundation.org) run a charity that gives money to all kinds of liberal and environmental groups
Another stupid question : do heterosexual American men normally write "miss you" to each other ?
praetorian wrote:A picture on the wall of Podesta's office:
IT"S JUST ART JEEZE LOL RUBES
Podesta looks like a character in Biljana Djurdjevic's artwork
@43 My theory is that the Holy Spirit is revealing the fact that civil marriage is just a corporate merger, and if you want to be matched, you should really hook me up with the dude (not A dude, THE dude) and do it right.
The fear in the Clinton camp is palpable -
“Friends, please remember that if you see a whopper of a Wikileaks in next two days - it’s probably a fake,” tweeted Jennifer Palmieri, the communications director for the Clinton campaign.
http://www.businessinsider.com/clinton-wikileaks-jennifer-palmieri-whopper-emails-2016-11
These people are suppose to be the world's best and brightest?
We need an intellectual means testing amendment.
The blog that has Djurdjevics art also has this:
Kids
Check out picture #20
Theresa May may be going full Andy Jackson against the corrupt High Court! http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-06/people-made-their-choice-theresa-may-vows-deliver-full-eu-exit-despite-court-challen
Applying a Lolita Express filter to the conversation, where cheese means child, pizza means porn, pasta means masturbate, and domino means dick/bone, I still think this could refer to dicking (playing dominoes) children (cheese) as a welcome substitute for pasta (masturbating---to child porn). Perhaps they used to have a tradition of circle-jerking to porn, but this year they get to 'demolish' some real children.
Any of you all know who Doug Hagmann is? He has his own internet talk radio show with his son. He was on Infowars on Thursday (3rd hour, I believe). He claims to have a source in the NYPD and I think it is worth giving a listen to him.
He says the stuff the source has told him in Jeffrey Dahmer level. He doesn't go into any level of detail but you can hear it in his voice.
@22 Matthew:
How did the hackers know to go after Podesta's email specifically?
Very long term Clinton machine insider, Chief of Staff to Bill 1998 to the end, Councilor to Obama in 2014, a year later becoming the Chairman of Hillary's 2016 campaign? Who wouldn't desire to get a copy of his emails?
As a side note, the thing that makes this occult stuff most believable to me is the openness of the "art" he "decorates" his house with. If that's not a tell written in fiery letters in the sky that he's a sick [redacted], I can't imagine what would be.
And another sign that these people really believe they're untouchable.
It could be as simple as association.
Cheese is often associated with France. Perhaps code for French speaking.
Pasta/noodles associated with Italian. Maybe Asian (though their pasta is usually called "noodles").
But playing dominoes? That is so out of place in many ways. There's no way that isn't code.
This brings a whole new meaning to the term "Creepypasta"...
Normal people do not have naked pictures of teenagers in their home, especially their bedroom. These people are depraved.
Just out on Zero Hedge:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-06/clinton-campaign-worried-about-whopper-wikileaks-next-two-days
This could be part of their super genius planning to produce a gigantic letdown (and Hillary victory), but I think Ockham was on to something. Podesta knows which emails are particularly problematic, and it's obvious there's some real dirt in his or other potential leaks. Monday must be the big reveal. Sounds like the Big One is coming.
He says the stuff the source has told him in Jeffrey Dahmer level. He doesn't go into any level of detail but you can hear it in his voice.
So tell him to tell his source to get it out there via WikiLeaks stat.
@55 I think dominoes works in the plain reading. He's looking forward to his family coming in for the holidays- they'll eat Herb's gift while they play dominoes. Being stuffed on a meal of pasta compared to nibbling on cheese might change his gameplay.
Like I said before the writing is awful, likely as a result of being 'translated' into this coded language. Still I don't find the plain reading to be undecipherable.
I wish the emails had been released a lot earlier.
The people who can easily bust the code, if there is one (and it certainly appears to be a very strange way to talk to people) are the FBI teams that work child porn.
They are on the message boards. They know the way they talk and talk around the subject.
They need to read the emails.
Alexamenos wrote:I've long wondered about the agenda driving the gay marriage propaganda barrage without being able to settle on an explanation that makes sense. If there's some substance to this code, we have an explanation.
Culture norms are the means by which the majority of people assert their collective will. Those who want to assert their norms on a society end up being the foes of ordinary behavior. Thus this gradual breakdown in cultural norms is a way of undermining the majority.
It occurs over and over.
Currently the now officially pushed "counter culture" has been successful enough that they are going after social norms that are obvious and sensible. Every sort of sex in every bathroom, marriage is no longer between a man and a women, acceptance of polygamy among the followers of Islam, etc.. Cutting edge right now consists of hints that maybe incest isn't such a bad thing, too bad for the kids that end up with birth defects.
Gay marriage is just the latest thing. It's not about gay marriage per se, it is about undermining conventional norms of behavior.
The Clinton's and their media arms are good at weaseling out over time. I think waiting till the last day for the coup de gras is good strategy to keep them from redirecting the attention of the great unwashed with "look an eagle!".
@Johnny
"Gay marriage is just the latest thing. It's not about gay marriage per se, it is about undermining conventional norms of behavior."
Or more specifically, it's about undermining norms because elite deviant freaks like to diddle kiddies.
Fallout New Vegas, White Glove Society.
Mortimer feeds his clan in "Beyond the Beef" and thereby "coerces" them into becoming cannibals.
What better way for TPTB to leverage our politicians?
One difficulty in deciphering this stuff is that these people don't sound normal even when they're not talking in code. They come off as self-consciously precious and weird all the time, and they use double entendres like Homer used alliteration. Everything they say sounds creepy. Still, soldier on.
I never knew "ice cream" meant male hookers. I had seen the LBL symbol before but just thought it was a swirl.
"Ps. Do you think I’ll do better playing dominos on cheese than on pasta?"
What is the cut off between hot dogs/pasta, and cheese/pizza?
I wish I knew WTH 'cheese' had to do with any of this
The earlier posting showed that hot dog=boy, pasta= little boy, pizza=girl, cheese=little girl, ice cream=gay male whore ( in unrelated news BRAVO's "Finding Prince Charming" Prince Charming could be rented as recently as July.)
was not concerned about the optics of spending $60,000+ on shipping pizza and dogs from Chicago to DC
The thing is if you are the type of person who would spend $60,000 for actual hotdogs/pizza, is there any actual cheese you can't buy yourself? At that level of spending you could have someone fly first class to multiple cities to buy it for you. In fact:
"Michelle Obama has not been unwilling to take maximum advantage of the perks of an unlimited expense account as first lady. ... Whether its $250,000 spent on a date night in New York, ordering carry-out pizza for 120 people from 850 miles away" http://akdart.com/obama112.html
How did the hackers know to go after Podesta's email specifically?
He was centrally placed, considered a "FIXER" and his password was p@ssword.
remember that if you see a whopper of a Wikileaks in next two days - it’s probably a fake,”
Is that code for a picture of HilLIARy face down on an Italian girl?
Gay marriage is just the latest thing. It's not about gay marriage per se,
For all the fighting over gay marriage there sure have not been many of them. I was kinda hoping to see a Gay Divorce Court.
These are people who openly support murdering children and chopping them up for spare parts (Planned Parenthood) how could anyone with an IQ above room temperature think they wouldn't engage in mere pedophilia after that?
What am I reading, the criminality and perversity of the klitons circles just grows more nauseating by each Revelation. cheese, pasta, sicko art, demolish children? "Lo and behold, instead of pasta and wonderful sauces, it
was a lovely, tempting assortment of cheeses, Yummy. I am awaiting the
return of my children and grandchildren from their holiday travels so that
we can demolish them."
The context here reveals something either nonchalant, weird or evil (I suggest evil) is taking place. Meaning child abuse, who says demolish our children?
@66 I remember some years ago when I read about the word "optics" and how they made first use of the term in connotation of how something an event is perceived as being of more importance than the details. They could care less about the actual event. It's like the recent reveal of Podesta's office "art." They really believe this idea that labeling something "art" gives one nearly limitless license, and demand we agree, or agree to disagree (peacefully, of course). Too them it's quite literally sacred. In a way, the more sickening, the more sacred.
Look at what some of the ancient idolatrous practices entailed. Defecating on or in front of an idol. And other sick stuff.
I can see their defense: "Well, obviously, they meant "demolish" the yummy cheeses, not the children! What's wrong with you people?"
Regardless, I am imagining this (((Herb Sandler))) fellow sounding exactly like one of those creeps from South Park's "Cartman Joins NAMBLA". The way he writes his e-mails makes it very hard for me NOT to.
The sculpture of the Dahmer victim is the worst thing I have seen today. It represents such a depraved glee in horror and suffering that I can only believe that these people have sold their souls. That level of depravity isn't possible without demonic influence.
Something is very, very wrong with anyone who would put such a statue in their house.
Let alone anyone who would be pleased by it.
VERY, very disturbing. IT screams satanic.
'Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves; so be wise as serpents and gentle as doves.'
Really, I am wasting far too much time thinking about this stuff. Is p!aying dominoes a thing in Washington high society families?. It is an easy game for young children (grandkids.)
In U.K. it is quite common for rich folk to send hampers from Fortnums to their friends. It doesn't sound that weird to me but then I am a bit innocent.
Good rhetorical value no doubt!
@54, And if they just had it privately in their homes, that would be bad enough. The fact that they publicize it and show it off enough that you can view pictures of it online shows how brazen they are. Broadcasting it to people who don't recognize it, and risking exposure, are part of the thrill. It also shows they think they're untouchable, probably because they've been getting away with it forever.
@67 BGKB
"For all the fighting over gay marriage there sure have not been many of them. I was kinda hoping to see a Gay Divorce Court."
For some reason the Judge Judy show was heavy for a while on what would appear to be homos breaking up cohabitation. The show was sold, maybe it was the new (((owner)))? It came fairly close to a Gay Divoce Court. Over and over it got to be a bit much. I imagine they were in declining ratings. When I quit tuning in they were real heavy on disputes between blacks.
"Fucking gamergate, man. I just fucking wanted to play videogames and here I am, working on rooting out ancient one world government kabbals and pedophilia rings. What. The. Actual. Fuck."
Dude, you're Ender Wiggin.
I think dominoes works in the plain reading. He's looking forward to his family coming in for the holidays- they'll eat Herb's gift while they play dominoes. Being stuffed on a meal of pasta compared to nibbling on cheese might change his gameplay.
You can't even correctly deduce who sent the gift to whom, and we're supposed to accept your interpretation of the emails?
The gift was from the Podestas to Herb.
This email, sent on Christmas Eve, reads like a thank you note for holiday presents - in past years pasta, cheese this year. Why should a reasonable person believe there's any meaning other than the obvious one?
In general,
Dear God-
Please get me alone in a room with john Podesta for three hours with a Video Camera and a syringe of Sodium Amatol.
Not a native speaker, but doesn't this sound more like drug related?
"Hey guys I really expected this box filled with Afghan hash, but I take the heroin. Just let me know the next time, ok?"
@Matthew
I think they spammed basically all of the Clinton email addresses with a phishing email. Something like "Your account has been compromised. Click this link immediately to change your password," and Podesta was the highest level guy to fall for it.
The attempts to spin this as only being about drugs are hilariously inept.
The revelations on Satan worship, art in podesta homes, and connection to known pedos and likely pedopizza shops means you can't reasonably dismiss this as innocent. The only open question is what kind of evil they were hiding.
Hotdog = boy
Hotdog stand = place with male sex slave (possible it means boy with erection)
Cheese = girl
Cheese pizza = child porn
Pasta = little boy
Domino = domination
Realtor = clean-up crew (evidence removers)
Ketchup packet = newborn baby
Map = DNA evidence, can also mean "minor attracted person"
Hawaii = cum splatter
They also had a term for a vat of acid to dispose of remains in but I can't recall what it was. Someone please find it.
We are dealing with fucks so sick that it is beyond comprehension.
For some reason the Judge Judy show was heavy for a while on what would appear to be homos breaking up cohabitation.
It would be nice change to see it without one of the parties expecting me to help them move.
I find it telling people this evil would wish merry Christmas at the end of such a discussion. Irony? Code? Or are they reveling in the ancient rites of the pagan winter solstice?
http://ninetymilesfromtyranny.blogspot.com/2016/11/here-is-key-to-reading-clinton-staffer.html
VFMUltra when read that way, it makes sense. Where is this from?
It light of what we're seeing, that story about the pizza seasoning delivery company gives me the fucking creeps.
And I wouldn't be surprised if JP is talking about a literal box with a child(ren) inside like "the gimp" on Pulp Fiction.
Another email says something about a woman acting as their Uber driver to deliver them entertainment.
It just keeps going. And no one is really diving into (yet) the seemingly endless amount of satanic "artists" that are associated with these people. 5 minutes on youtube provides more video links then any investigator has time to look at.
VD wrote:I think dominoes works in the plain reading. He's looking forward to his family coming in for the holidays- they'll eat Herb's gift while they play dominoes. Being stuffed on a meal of pasta compared to nibbling on cheese might change his gameplay.
You can't even correctly deduce who sent the gift to whom, and we're supposed to accept your interpretation of the emails?
The gift was from the Podestas to Herb.
So it was. I just got out into the weeds of interpreting it on its face. I don't disagree that this is clearly coded language referring to illegal activity.
@53 kmbr
Any of you all know who Doug Hagmann is? He has his own internet talk radio show with his son. He was on Infowars on Thursday (3rd hour, I believe). He claims to have a source in the NYPD and I think it is worth giving a listen to him.
He says the stuff the source has told him in Jeffrey Dahmer level. He doesn't go into any level of detail but you can hear it in his voice
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I knew it was going there after they mixed pedo island with Crowley rituals.
All this talk about food, with sexual undertones, and the Dahmer sculpture along with several artists who have celebrated gynophagia, doesn't suggest pedophilia to me. Rather, it suggests Dolcettism, a kind of cannibal fetish. Most who are into Dolcett don't actually do the deeds, they just fantasize about it. But even so, it's pretty depraved stuff.
@68 Stilicho
These are people who openly support murdering children and chopping them up for spare parts (Planned Parenthood) how could anyone with an IQ above room temperature think they wouldn't engage in mere pedophilia after that?
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Is it too much of a conspiratorial leap to think that maybe these freaks are buying the baby parts for their cooking activities?
Not a native speaker, but doesn't this sound more like drug related?
"Hey guys I really expected this box filled with Afghan hash, but I take the heroin. Just let me know the next time, ok?"
No, no it does not. Do you think an old man is going to shoot up with his kids and grandkids.
They're pedos.
Another stupid question : do heterosexual American men normally write "miss you" to each other ?
"Miss you" isn't even a feeling a normal man has for friends, let alone something he'd articulate. I look forward to seeing friends, very much so for old and dear ones I haven't seen for a while, but I don't miss them. That's a very effeminate emotion to have for anyone other than close family. A man can miss his kids, his parents, his wife and his dog. Anyone else and there's something wrong.
@82 Matthew
The attempts to spin this as only being about drugs are hilariously inept.
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It's easier on the mind to think it might be about drugs, than the worse things it might be about.
Heavenly Father, please allow the Truth concerning the corruption of our leaders see the light of day, so that our society, reeling from the evil of this generation, may turn its hearts to you. I ask you this in the name of Christ the Lord. Amen.
No excuses.
@Shimshon
It a compilation of terms the reddit and /pol/ autists found or figured out. There is a lot more but those are the ones most widely known and the ones that appear frequently in JPs emails.
And Elijah said to them, “Seize the prophets of Baal; let not one of them escape.” And they seized them. And Elijah brought them down to the brook Kishon and slaughtered them there.
Cheese = child
Pizza = porn
Domino = Dominated person (Beta kitten)
Dunno the others.
What are "wonderful sauces?"
@99 I read a tweet that showed a picture of the fly landing on Hillary at the debate with the words "Beelzebub has made his choice". Beelzebub means Baal (Lord, Master) Zebub (of Flies). One has to wonder.
This stuff is all starting to fit. I wonder if the forthcoming release involves emails to and/or from Hillary. I would not be surprised to see such emails include similar references. Have any emails from or to her been released yet?
Tipsy @102, that's not the only time flies have been attracted to Hillary. They are also attracted to Obama. The Left is demonic, so I wasn't surprised one bit. It's been well noted here how God has a sense of humor.
"Mmmm, fried cheese..." - Homer Simpson
I haven't seen anyone come up with anything solid on what "sauces" may be.
My speculation is that sauces is the costume/bondage paraphernalia that the victim is wearing...and going along with that I think "seasoning" is the drugs taken and given (to the victims) during their "dinners".
Well, you guys know the bohemian grove owl is also on the building on Epsteins pedo island? baal or moloch, i forget which it is. The one that they loved to sacrifice babies in by tossing them in a fire, IIRC.
@101 Shimshon
What are "wonderful sauces?"
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I hope it's not the ingredients from spirit cooking - which were blood, breast milk, semen, who knows what other hideous things they might mix in there. . .
"Well, you guys know the bohemian grove owl is also on the building on Epsteins pedo island? baal or moloch, i forget which it is. The one that they loved to sacrifice babies in by tossing them in a fire, IIRC."
Anderson Cooper, in his "reporting" on Sandy Hook, ostentatiously showed to the camera a copy he'd been given by supposed grieving parents of their daughter's (suspiciously polished for a first grader) owl drawing, of which a copy (or was it supposed to be the original) had been presented, he announced, to Pres Obama.
The owl was more like a professional full-size logo, in a vivid blue.
Is it too much of a conspiratorial leap to think that maybe these freaks are buying the baby parts for their cooking activities?
I was joking before about Barney Frank paying extra for white "bags of baby dicks from PP".
I haven't seen anyone come up with anything solid on what "sauces" may be.
Sauces is explained on the same link that has "ice cream" as male whores, I don't recall it off hand.
Matthew wrote:How did the hackers know to go after Podesta's email specifically?
Apparently, Podesta offered them up to Wikileaks.
John "tooth fairy is supposed to be hairy" Podesta sure does like his pasta.
@104 I read a while back that archaeologists in Isreal were excavating Canaanite altars. They were shocked to discover that littered about these altars were the bones of children. I heard another talk in which the Canaanites were reviled by the Israelites because they and their livestock were riddled with sexually transmitted diseases.
The point is that the marks of their depravity were twofold: sexual perversity and unspeakable cruelty.
It seems that we are observing the same marks of depravity with the Clintons and their associates. I hope to God that Justice will be swift and complete.
The line about demolishing the assortment of cheeses with his children and grandchildren, didn't sound right, specifically in light of everything else we know.
May God bring His just vengeance on these people and their system. My prayer is that an Elijah is raised up for a time such as this.
@45
>>Another stupid question : do heterosexual American men normally write "miss you" to each other ?
No, we don't. As Stilicho mentioned above, these people discourse in a very strange, unhealthy way. They are not normal. I too sense that something wicked is going on.
Regarding flies, I've noted that the palpable "aura of evil" reportedly surrounding such people has a radius we'd expect for smells. I think desensitizing yourself to evil changes your hormone profile which is subconsciously triggering to humans and very upsetting to dogs.
Podesta's office pic. It there to help him read people.
This is all interesting. Too bad it isn't having a bigger impact. I have to believe there was a time when it would have gone off like an H bomb in you back yard.
VFMUltra
Uh... thanks for that. Made me puke in my mouth but also given me utter conviction these people need scalping and crucifying.
Another stupid question : do heterosexual American men normally write "miss you" to each other ?
Even most gays don't either.
desensitizing yourself to evil changes your hormone profile which is subconsciously triggering to humans and very upsetting to dogs.
People who work in burn units can't get the smell of burnt human flesh off them. People can be unsettled by it.
while some of this stuff can come across as just normal everyday communication (which is the point) this playing dominos on cheese or pasta doesn't. its word salad.
He's a very competitive dominos player, to such an extent that his game actually suffers from a carb coma, or rather he uses that as a humorous excuse for his unforced errors instead of the wine that is actually to blame.
That, or code for sex and drugs. Who actually plays dominos? I thought billionaires were all into bridge.
I suggest an experiment for anyone interested. Get a burn unit worker and a normal person near Hillary (or a person of comparable "aura") and see if they have the same reaction.
More from Reddit via Microchip on twitter. Hillary covering up DynaCorp child trafficking: https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/5bdso0/dyncorp_child_trafficking_hillary_covers_up/
Even if the worst is true, how can these Emails be used to prove anything? To be sure, I am wholly unqualified to dissect, interpret or translate the code language of child predators and/or occultists. But the talk doesn't seem too outlandish to me. I work for some very wealthy clients in my business, and some use phrases and parlance that sound strange to my 'common man' ears. I have heard them talk in ways on the phone quite similar to this. And knowing these people as well as I do (I maintain their personal properties) I can say with absolute certainty that pedophilia is abhorrent to them. In fact, everyone of them I can think of plans to vote Trump, although they are not very fond of him overall.
I think the money trail and connections involving the Clinton Foundation are far more rock solid, and therefore for more damning than these Emails.
Way back when human sacrifice was common in the Middle East and I suspect the Jews were doing it for longer than is admitted to in the Bible. Nonetheless they are by far, apparently, the first population of people to abandon it in the region.
With some frequency it is babies. Perhaps it was a kind of covert population control. Also because warrior and big game hunting societies are forever short of men, there may have been covert sexual selection.
Don't know about Baal worship, but Moloch was a really nasty business. They burned babies and animals alive in the most brutish sort of ways.
@125
Just stop. It's not working. It's not going to work.
We Are On To You, Fuckers
I like cheese, in fact, I like cheese a lot. I also like inviting my friends to my house to cook a communal meal, especially if they're bringing ingredients and a recipe that is particularly tasty.
You're going to need more than "when we went through a decade of a person's email, there were some we didn't fully understand, and they were doing things that I think are a bit odd."
The poster above me repeats the blood libel, you treat accusations of salacious evil directed at prominent liberals like feminists treat rape allegations.
it strikes me as a little unusual that the Mahbubanis, whoever they are, are going to be doing the cooking at the Tony Podesta residence.
That is actually the least-suspicious part of it. Many foodie circles meet at members' houses and have a guest cook. The way to be sure is to see if the cook has a reputation, such as running a restaurant. Given the ethnic flavor of the guest cooks, this is all too believable.
Matthew, Stop what?
Lying
In all honesty I doubt this particular email is related. I've known people who talked like this, dramatizing every stupid little thing.
Every time I come across it I want to punch an English professor in the mouth.
Of course that in no way undermines the other insanity that has been discovered: Spirit Cooking, Dahmer statue, pedo art, cannibal art, etc. The best that could be said of Podesta is that he has a very sick and twisted mind. The worst? That the "conspiracy theories" are at least partially if not fully true and his actions match his mind.
And in light of that, maybe the email is not innocent at all. I just wouldn't hang a prosecution on this particular email.
inb4 "concern troll" - I'm offering an opinion on this particular piece of evidence. I am not saying that Vox, reddit, or the chans should stop digging. On the contrary...DIG! There's too much smoke here for there not to be a fire.
Sounds like friendly holiday banter over some gift exchanging tradition that ended with a gift that deviated from the norm. The part about playing dominoes on cheese rather than pasta could simply be an awkward attempt at keeping the joke going. I've seen some bad attempts at humor before that lose their meaning in text when body language is absent. The darker interpretations could be true but this is not as bizarre sounding as people seem to think.
@132 - To be clear, I'm talking about the second email.
We have enough that it should be looked into, but beyond that for now at least, it is all in the realm of suspicion.
I just wouldn't hang a prosecution on this particular email.
No one is, on that or any other single piece of evidence. We're not prosecutors anyway. Just add it to the pile and keep digging.
Matthew, lying about what? About my opinion concerning the Emails? If so, how do you know I am lying about my opinion. That is simply ridiculous.
If it is about my career, well, don't believe me then. Who cares?
Other than that, I can't imagine what else you think encompasses my dishonesty.
At this point, no one can truly believe new details about the Clinton money trail, which people stopped being surprised by more than a decade ago, will have more traction with the public than pedophilia and the occult.
The question nobody's asking is...who mails a box of pasta and sauces as a Christmas gift?
Is this a tradition anywhere? If not, the flag gets redder.
Uh, there are some lawyers who read this blog, some whose names even point to that conclusion....
Similar to what you said, this isn't 'evidence' in the admissible sense, but it IS evidence that something weird deserves further scrutiny.
If people are deaf to the dirty money that surrounds Bill and Hilary Clinton (and they certainly seem to be) then this latest evidence won't open their closed ears about the filth of these people. I don't want this latest accusation to be true - I frankly admit it. But that is not because I love or hate these people. It is simply because it is horrendous and evil almost beyond comparison. And the less of this evil we can find in the world, the better.
But if it is true, I want it to see the light of day. I simply do not believe the Emails I've read are anything close to satisfactory as evidence of something so nefarious.
But we need to keep looking, to be sure
Never mind. I looked up 'pasta gift basket' and it's a thing.
"Ps. Do you think I’ll do better playing dominos on cheese than on pasta?"
Well, actually, I've tried both, and I think he'll do better with the cheese. Pasta is lumpy and the dominoes just won't stand up right on their own. However, if you warm the cheese, you can get it sticky and they'll stand right up. Harder to knock down once the cheese cools, of course, but then, the time wasted doing something completely insane and pointless has already been spent, so why not just make it a totally worthless activity?
All of this is deeply disturbing. I am once again forced to confront the problem of evil.
If people are deaf to the dirty money that surrounds Bill and Hilary Clinton (and they certainly seem to be) then this latest evidence won't open their closed ears about the filth of these people.
And yet we see them opening. I have seen people on social media say these revelations have changed their view of these people and their voting plans. You're wrong.
Anyone seen the Biden and Barack friendship bracelets?
http://people.com/style/barack-obama-joe-biden-friendship-bracelets/
The hardest part of rebuilding in the future is to recreate a high trust society.
When TPTB, the media, academia and the bureaucracy all work to hide or obscure the truth, to tell us "narratives" which become more and more at odds with the facts (I'm not even talking about this new stuff from Wikileaks, just think of seven "Recovery Summers" in a row, or how the job market is so great despite having less than 3% GDP growth in any year since 2008), the bonds of trust which bind society together and allow large scale cooperation get broken, and won't be reformed to the offending institutions.
Rebuilding will have to be from the ground up. The traditional "Flyover States" will be good places, where the lower population density and adherence to more traditional American values have retained a high trust society at least locally.
So regardless of who wins the election, the power structures of the "Blue" cities need to be taken down. If your business has customers in Blue cities, start putting them at the end of the list for service. Don't take new orders from them. Start replacing banks and financial services with private loans and lies of credit between each other, and similarly replace or supplement the sorts of goods and services the Blue cities provide. After all, you don't need their lying "news" services or a lot of their service industries as much as they need food, water and energy from outside the cities.
Besides not accepting their business, you can also continually delay their meddling by following bureaucratic procedures with infinite exactitude. "Work to rule" works in all directions. And simply refusing to follow their Diktats will throw a huge wrench in the establishment of their quasi police state. They can arrest and try a few people as an example, but how will they deal with millions of people's refusal?
Sure, this sort of Revolution 2.0 is going to be slow and lack spectacular victories, but it is the same grinding war of attrition that the Left have been waging against Americans since at least the time of FDR (and arguably as far back as Woodrow Wilson). So regardless of a Trumpslide or Hillary stealing the election, start making preparations to take the battle back to the Leftists , and grind them into the dust.
What adult talks like this or emails like this? Their activity reminds me of addicts. The more and longer you indulge, the more you need for the same high. And, human nature being what it is, the longer you get away with it the lazier you get about hiding it, the more normal it seems, and the stupider you think everyone else is. Uhg.
OT, sorta: Comey's already caved.
I like cheese, in fact, I like cheese a lot. I also like inviting my friends to my house to cook a communal meal
I don't even have friends that gay.
...although it strikes me as a little unusual that the Mahbubanis, whoever they are, are going to be doing the cooking at the Tony Podesta residence.
They sound Indian.
I dated an Indian girl once, and she would come over to my place at times and cook some really good food.
Now that I think about it, that was often a prelude to sex, so...
@149
That is some really good advice. Over the last four years, we (wife and I ) have made it a practice to source the bulk of our food locally. It takes a lot of advanced planning and even at times added expense but the value it brings to us health wise and our community at large is well worth it. We also have a tailor who makes (some) of our shoes. A portion of our furniture is also made from northern hardwood lumber grown in the region in which we live. The list goes on...
All of this is possible for anyone to do and if practiced by enough people, will help to create a more anti-fragile economy filled with locally based small businesses .
An even better question, in my opinion, is why is a practicing Jew sending a Christmas gift to another practicing Jew, and why would one of them wish the other a "Merry Christmas?"
What happened to "Happy Hanukah?"
Maybe it's a common practice, but I've never heard Jews wish each other a Merry Christmas...
Were-Puppy wrote:Is it too much of a conspiratorial leap to think that maybe these freaks are buying the baby parts for their cooking activities?
Vanishingly unlikely, because the amounts of tissue available for e.g. stem cell culture are measured in fractional grams. Embryonic stem cells are derived from IVF "embryos" (actually zygotes), so you are talking about a few hundred cells (undifferentiated, so you don't even have distinct tissues let alone organs).
If you're calling a barely-eye-visible ball a "baby", sanity has gone out the window.
@Mr Rational doesn't science.
PP were selling organs, not just stem cells. You see, an awful lot of abortions take place in the 2nd trimester. That whole "undifferentiated ball of cells" thing is another lie that pro-Abortion idiots use to sell your evil.
And if the point is the consumption of babies, it doesn't matter what your assessment of the victim is, it matters what they think of it.
Sauce is orgy read in podesta email codes
Widely Headgash wrote:an awful lot of abortions take place in the 2nd trimester
That "awful lot" is 11% or less of all abortions. More than half of all US abortions occur at or before 7 weeks. RU-486 and its relatives don't even work beyond the first few weeks.
Are you willing to admit that embryonic stem-cell research is ethical? If the blastocyst is never implanted, there is no pregnancy to abort. Abortion is irrelevant.
That whole "undifferentiated ball of cells" thing is another lie that pro-Abortion idiots use to sell your evil.
That's all there is by the time you must transfer it from the Petri dish if you want anything other than a totipotent cell line. A 2nd-trimester abortion recovering organs cannot produce totipotent stem cells. So which are you objecting to today? Or are you using the motte-and-bailey argument, holding that some things are abortions today, and not abortions tomorrow?
If you have to equivocate in your arguments, you are in service of the Prince of Lies by your own beliefs. That exact kind of hypocrisy turned me away from Christianity. If you have to lie, you have neither truth nor Truth.
if the point is the consumption of babies
You're accusing PP of supplying gram-sized samples of organ tissues as food. Prove that it happened and the suppliers had intent. Mens rea matters. Frankly, the idea is ridiculous. You could only come up with it through EXTREMELY motivated "reasoning".
Ahhhh, but there is something to see here. Hilly Klinton aide was busted for kidnapping children in Haiti and if Mahbubanis runs a heart center then there is a Hugh connection between child rings and harvesting body parts for transplant to the rich and powerful pedophiles
In the pedo world, I've read on YouTube, cheese means little girl.
Sounds good but those words are code words for pedophilia. girl boy torture s/m spirit cooking
Pasta is boy cheese is girl and domino is black n white which represents s/m or torture
Obama giving children to gay couples for "adoption" from agencies like Health n human resource and CPS
You're so gullible
Dominos has a couple of meanings in the pedo world. One meaning Bones and the other is black n white which means S/M or torture
Exactly. This whole thing is about one thing and one thing only, Child Sex Ring, pedophilia, rituals and Spirit cooking
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