Vox Popoli: NFL Week 17

simplytimothy January 01, 2017 2:42 PM: Math is hard.

TB win
+ WAS tie
+ GB loss
+ TEN win
+ IND win
+ DAL win
+ SF win
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= Tampa Bay clinches a playoff berth:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000764681/article/nfl-playoff-scenarios-for-week-17
exfarmkid January 01, 2017 2:45 PM: Rooting for the Lions tonight - spite is all that is left....
Dave January 01, 2017 2:59 PM: @1 you left out one scenario: Packers & Lions cannot end in a tie.

If the Packers/Lions end in a tie they make the playoffs and the Redskins/Bucs are both out.

Now if they could get away with it, the smart play would be for the Packers and Lions to play for the tie.
YIH January 01, 2017 3:01 PM: @1 Thank you for explaining that so I didn't have to ;)
How 'bout this one, Redskins clinch if:
1) WAS win + GB-DET game does not end in a tie
I'm not surprised the GB-DET game got ''flexed'' to SNF, it's pretty much a playoff game now.
If the Redskins win (and see above) the winner is NFC North champ - and the loser is out completely.
The Vikes finish off with the Teddy Bears - and they're beating the stuffing out of them. Which means they at least end 8-8. All together now: ''maybe next season!''
I'm actually gonna say it: I feel sorry for the Raiders, that Derek Carr broken leg really hurt. If they lose to the Broncos and the Chiefs beat the Chargers (both quite possible) they lose their first round bye - and likely their first playoff game in years as well.
VFM #6306 January 01, 2017 3:12 PM: I love the tie scenario for Lions-GB from a pure game theory scenario. OT is sudden death on a TD...so...the mutual benefit of secured playoffs (tie) is outweighed by the lack of trust that the other team would honor the bargain.
Dave January 01, 2017 3:15 PM: Of course they flexed Packers/Lions. It's the only game that decides a division; the loser goes home (assuming no tie) and it's a division rivalry.

It's exactly the scenario the league hoped for when they made all the matchups interdivisional in the last week (or two weeks?) schedule.
BassmanCO January 01, 2017 3:20 PM: YIH, no offense, but fuck the Raiders. They have enough bad karma around organization to doom them for another ten years.
Josh (the gayest thing here) January 01, 2017 3:45 PM: Stupid Titans
Tatooine Sharpshooters' Club January 01, 2017 3:51 PM: + SF win

TB's as good as dead.
YIH January 01, 2017 4:02 PM: Tatooine Sharpshooters' Club wrote:+ SF win

TB's as good as dead.
So Han shot first. But yes, they're toast ;)
Dave January 01, 2017 4:09 PM: Chip Kelly is toast ahaha back to college biatch
YIH January 01, 2017 4:41 PM: The Steelers did rest players but they still won - just barely.
1-15, ''The Cleveland Browns are on the clock'', and the worst record in their history.
The Redskins are in if:
VFM #6306 wrote:I love the tie scenario for Lions-GB from a pure game theory scenario. OT is sudden death on a TD...so...the mutual benefit of secured playoffs (tie) is outweighed by the lack of trust that the other team would honor the bargain. Nice ;)
simplytimothy January 01, 2017 4:46 PM: TB win (check)
+ WAS tie (nyg vs was)
+ GB loss (in the bag baby)
+ TEN win (check)
+ IND win (check)
+ DAL win (crap Fscking Philly. Hate that team.)
+ SF win (scratch)
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= Tampa Bay DOES NOT clinch a playoff berth:

/sigh.

Oh well, it was good to care in November and December.
VFM#1819 January 01, 2017 4:50 PM: My Steelers won in OT. Whew. It's been a hell of a season, one of the most interesting in recent memory. Here's hoping the playoffs are equally interesting.
Dave January 01, 2017 5:11 PM: TB's loss to the Saints a week ago was atrocious and that 1-3 start was a deep hole to dig out of.

Three years ago the Eagles went 10-6 and didn't make the playoffs.

All the Redskins have to do is win and get in and they're losing at home by 10 to the Giants.

Look out for the Steelers they've quietly won 7 in row.
simplytimothy January 01, 2017 5:34 PM: Steelers are a quality club. They play the game like men, not boys.

off-topic: the captcha select images with pizza verification.....not a good vibe.
patrick kelly January 01, 2017 5:55 PM: Come on SD, you can do it, I hope, cu'z my Raiderz not lookin' so good today without Carr.
Napoleon 12pdr January 01, 2017 6:14 PM: The good news for the Redskins is that they'll finish 8-7-1. Which is a hell of a lot better than the 6-10 they normally have delivered the last 25 years. They're getting well as a franchise...finally.
simplytimothy January 01, 2017 6:20 PM: Cleveland 0-17? Worst single season record since the AFC buccaneers 0-14 start

https://infogalactic.com/info/Tampa_Bay_Buccaneers#1976.E2.80.931978
Jack Amok January 01, 2017 6:21 PM: Nate, congrats on the Tide winning. Looked like the Dawgs were going to make a game of it for a while, but, no dice. Couldn't stop that kid with the name that sounds like a city Springsteen would write a song about.

Glad to see Ohio State get blown out. Now if Bama blows out Clemson, will it shut up the Big 10 loving media?
YIH January 01, 2017 6:30 PM: BassmanCO wrote:YIH, no offense, but fuck the Raiders. They have enough bad karma around organization to doom them for another ten years.
It's looking like you're getting what we want - the Springfield Raiders are losing big, and the Chiefs are staying alive vs. the [LA???] Chargers.
Tyrese January 01, 2017 6:31 PM: Nigger ball and MILO!
Lazarus January 01, 2017 6:35 PM: simplytimothy wrote:Cleveland 0-17?

Cleveland won one. They are 1-15. They should have won today's game but fumbled it away.
Lazarus January 01, 2017 6:36 PM: Is college all pay per view now? Haven't seen one bowl game or playoff yet.
JACIII January 01, 2017 6:54 PM: Jack Amok wrote:Nate, congrats on the Tide winning. Looked like the Dawgs were going to make a game of it for a while, but, no dice. Couldn't stop that kid with the name that sounds like a city Springsteen would write a song about.

Glad to see Ohio State get blown out. Now if Bama blows out Clemson, will it shut up the Big 10 loving media?

Roll Tide!
YIH January 01, 2017 7:03 PM: YIH wrote:BassmanCO wrote:YIH, no offense, but fuck the Raiders. They have enough bad karma around organization to doom them for another ten years.

It's looking like you're getting what we want - the Springfield Raiders are losing big, and the Chiefs are staying alive vs. the [LA???] Chargers.
https://infogalactic.com/info/2008_Detroit_Lions
That's the standard for awful.
The expansion season Bucs went 0-14, that was the previous standard for awful.
The NFL regular season was 14 consecutive games then.
YIH January 01, 2017 7:05 PM: Tyrese wrote:Nigger ball and MILO!
Fuck off
Lazarus January 01, 2017 7:10 PM: YIH wrote:Fuck off

Isn't the official response supposed to be Fuck Off, loser Nazi scum!

At least that is what was in the last memo.....
YIH January 01, 2017 7:13 PM: Lazarus wrote:Is college all pay per view now? Haven't seen one bowl game or playoff yet.
Not yet. But it's coming, I tried to find radiocasts of games, but they were blocked.
I can find radiocasts of games on nfl.com if I want to buy them.
I don't think it's impossible that SB LV could be like a PPV 'wrestlemania'. More likely SB LX
Lazarus January 01, 2017 7:17 PM: Kirk Cousins is the anti-Aaron Rodgers.

Instead of keeping the play alive until he can make a spectacular play, Cousins keeps the play alive in order to screw up spectacularly.

No Kirk, I did not like that.
YIH January 01, 2017 7:30 PM: And the Redskins fail. No playoffs for them.
If they lose to the Broncos and the Chiefs beat the Chargers (both quite possible) they lose their first round bye - and likely their first playoff game in years as well.
That's what's happening
Just another commenter January 01, 2017 7:30 PM: Seahawks had a rough start, but doing better, now. Then they swapped quarterbacks. Hmmm. But they pulled it out; a win's a win.
YIH January 01, 2017 7:33 PM: I'm looking forward to the Chiefs facing the Patriots in the AFC Championship.
SemiSpook37 January 01, 2017 7:34 PM: @16

You obviously didn't hear Mike Mitchell on the face mask call in OT. Granted, he had a point, but the shrieking really didn't help his case.

Thank God the Steelers pulled it off, though. The rematch with the LOLphins will be interesting.

@30

Can't hang this one on Cousins. I think the coaches were more of a problem today than he was. Stuff happens when you try to extend the play, and sometimes it's bad.
YIH January 01, 2017 7:39 PM: I was hoping the Redskins would win - oh well.
It will still be the NFC North title, just not an elimination.
Lazarus January 01, 2017 7:41 PM: SemiSpook37 wrote:Can't hang this one on Cousins. I think the coaches were more of a problem today than he was. Stuff happens when you try to extend the play, and sometimes it's bad.

So if he had extended the play and got a big gain or touchdown, it would not be credited to him?
Rambam January 01, 2017 7:46 PM: Super Bowl is Patriots to lose.
Cowboys will choke at home.
Cail Corishev January 01, 2017 7:54 PM: The good news for the Redskins is that they'll finish 8-7-1. Which is a hell of a lot better than the 6-10 they normally have delivered the last 25 years. They're getting well as a franchise...finally.

Now we'll see if they screw it up in the off-season by trying to play hardball with Cousins. A large part of their fan base would like them to, because RGIII.

I'm starting to get genuinely excited about the Chiefs. The defense has looked weak at times, but they're very opportunistic, #1 in takeaways in the league. Kelce has been excellent this year, Hill is a threat to score every time he touches it, and if they protect Smith, he hits his guys and has been going deeper than ever before.
Lazarus January 01, 2017 7:58 PM: Rambam wrote:Cowboys will choke at home.

These are not Romo's Cowboys. Although, Jerry Jones could still screw things up somehow.
Front toward enemy January 01, 2017 8:01 PM: Oh those Falcons look good this year. Just wondering.......
Jack Ward January 01, 2017 8:22 PM: #20 [with a nod to Nate] I watched both the Alabama game and the Clemson game. Alabama started sputtering half thru the second quarter and never stopped. They did win. It was not pretty. Their freshman QB is allowed to run too much and has not got enough passing experience. Or, experience in general. Get me wrong, not. I see him as a great QB by his junior year and a very good pro prospect. Time will tell.
Now: Clemson. They handed Ohio its butt. 31 to nothing, I remember. They looked very sharp and their QB was passing very well. If they can keep this level up against Alabama and Sabin isn't able to get the Tide in gear, I would say Clemson wins it all.
Jack Ward January 01, 2017 8:24 PM: Falcons were very sharp first half and part of second, then got a bit stale.
Falcons. First 5 plays, 5 first downs, 143 yards, 2 TD's. Hard to get much better.
Napoleon 12pdr January 01, 2017 8:48 PM: @38: I hope not. Cousins is the first decent QB the Redskins have had in decades.

Pro tip: NEVER draft a Heisman winner. They never deliver the play you pay them for. The NFL doesn't have the wide spread in player talent that allows a run-and-throw college QB to survive.
The OASF January 01, 2017 9:07 PM: Al Michaels just use the words "ruins" to describe the Silverdome in Detroit.

One just can't help but wonder...
Lazarus January 01, 2017 9:11 PM: The OASF wrote:Al Michaels just use the words "ruins" to describe the Silverdome in Detroit.

You can't expect infrastructure in the 3rd world to be the same quality as elsewhere.
ScarletNumber January 01, 2017 10:57 PM: @44

Ruins are the best way to describe them.
Lazarus January 01, 2017 11:22 PM: Green Bay would have a chance in Seattle, but Detroit won't, and with 5:45 to go, looks like a GB win.
Silent Cal January 01, 2017 11:53 PM: Green Bay 31
Detroit 24

Go Pack Go!
bw January 01, 2017 11:55 PM: Stafford and Rivers...what a fukin waste
Roger January 02, 2017 12:12 AM: @27

Milo openly brags about having anal sex with negros.
James Dixon January 02, 2017 12:21 AM: > Now if Bama blows out Clemson, will it shut up the Big 10 loving media?

Of course not. The Big 10 could lose every non-conference game they played and the media would still claim the were the second best conference.
AdognamedOp January 02, 2017 7:25 AM: Giants are gonna stomp the cheezeheads next week then take out the Jones boys.
Josh (the gayest thing here) January 02, 2017 8:34 AM: Pro tip: NEVER draft a Heisman winner. They never deliver the play you pay them for. The NFL doesn't have the wide spread in player talent that allows a run-and-throw college QB to survive.

Winston and Mariota look fine
TontoBubbaGoldstein January 02, 2017 10:07 AM: @51
Now if Bama blows out Clemson, will it shut up the Big 10 loving media?

Y'all know a little something about blowing out Clemson in a bowl game, too. *sighs*

You're right, though, The Big10, as a conference and Ohio State as a program, are consistently overrated.
Clemson beats Bama anyway. This time last year, Clemson was as good as, if not slightly better than Bama. (It took a trick play to beat us.) We're better this year and Bama has slipped a bit on offense.

BRING ON NATE!
Scott6584 January 02, 2017 10:42 AM: Go Cowboys!!
patrick kelly January 02, 2017 11:19 AM: "YIH wrote:BassmanCO wrote:YIH, no offense, but fuck the Raiders. They have enough bad karma around organization to doom them for another ten years.

It's looking like you're getting what we want - the Springfield Raiders are losing big, and the Chiefs are staying alive vs. the [LA???] Chargers."

The Raider's 3rd string QB (Cook? Coop?) is giving me hope. He didn't suk. The D sure got exposed by the Bronco's tho' and O-Line 2nd stringers are hanging on for dear life.

The stars seem to have aligned for a Cowboys/Patriots SB, but playoffs have produced many surprises in the almost 50 years I've been paying attention to them. For examply, the 15-1 98 Vikings loosing in the first round of the playoffs, or the Wild Card 80' Raiders winning the SB.
jon spencer January 02, 2017 1:10 PM: Charles Woodson did pretty good as a Heisman Trophy winner.

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