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Thursday, June 22, 2017

Five years? Make it permanent

No welfare for immigrants
President Trump announced Wednesday night that he will soon ask Congress to pass legislation banning immigrants from accessing public assistance within five years of entering the U.S.

“The time has come for new immigration rules that say ... those seeking immigration into our country must be able to support themselves financially and should not use welfare for a period of at least five years," Trump told a campaign-style rally in Grand Rapids, Iowa.

Trump's proposal would build on the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act of 1996, which allows federal authorities to deport immigrants who become public dependents within five years of their arrival. Many of that law’s provisions were rolled back during the George W. Bush and Barack Obama administrations, but Trump's proposal would make more categories of federal benefits off-limits to immigrants.
All categories of federal benefits should be off-limits to immigrants.

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Anonymous DissidentRight June 22, 2017 4:03 PM  

Ban single women while we're at it.

Anonymous Überdeplorable Psychedelic Cat Grass June 22, 2017 4:03 PM  

"immigrants from welfare for five years
Published June 22, 2017 Fox News

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Trump calls for 5-year welfare ban for new immigrants
President Trump announced Wednesday night that he will soon ask Congress to pass legislation banning immigrants from accessing public assistance within five years of entering the U.S.

“The time has come for new immigration rules that say ... those seeking immigration into our country must be able to support themselves financially and should not use welfare for a period of at least five years," Trump told a campaign-style rally in Cedar Rapids, Iowa.

Trump's proposal would build on the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act of 1996, which allows federal authorities to deport immigrants who become public dependents within five years of their arrival. Many of that law’s provisions were rolled back during the George W. Bush and Barack Obama administrations, but Trump's proposal would make more categories of federal benefits off-limits to immigrants.

Currently,states typically have the authority to determine eligibility for local public assistance programs.



Foreigners with non-immigrant visas and those who don't have legal status are generally prohibited from those benefits altogether.

Trump's proposal would also prevent the admission of people who are likely to become so-called "public charges" within five years of their arrival. The concept of "public charge" has been part of U.S. immigration law for over a century. It allows the government to bar entry to individuals who are likely to seek public assistance. Trump is expected to propose toughening up the rules regarding “public charge” and ensuring that they are enforced."

I was about to say but am glad that Fox covered that. It's something I'm sure Jourdan and Sherwood have seen time and again. Now watch the libs whine about how unfair and racist it is.

To anyone doubting: Trump is gonna win 2020 in a landslide. It's just a question of how many incumbent Members of the House there will be in '19 and thirds of the Senate that will remain.

Blogger dc.sunsets June 22, 2017 4:11 PM  

WTF is wrong with people?

Are we so surrounded by RABBITS (who think resources are unlimited) that this isn't common sense?

I find it patently outrageous that a Somali goatherd is imported under a refugee program and is given MEDICARE (not Medicaid, MEDICARE) free of charge, while if I am unemployed and not on SSDI, I get NOTHING after paying my FICA taxes for decades.

A shooting revolution cannot come soon enough.

Anonymous Catholic Crusader June 22, 2017 4:15 PM  

This is heartless and cruel. It also goes against 2000 years of Christian belief, where the refugee is at least treated with dignity and respect.

As the Holy Father notes, "Whoever receives one such child in my name receives me; and whoever receives me, receives not me but him who sent me" https://w2.vatican.va/content/francesco/en/messages/migration/documents/papa-francesco_20160908_world-migrants-day-2017.html

As another Catholic conservative thinker puts it, "I do notice that, in the same way a Leftist Christian is ever called upon to chose between Leftism and Christ, he never picks Christ, so too whenever an Alt-Right is confronted by contradictions between Christianity and Alt-Right, he rarely puts Christ first.

Instead I hear many an Alt-Right man speaking hellish nonsense about inventing a new form of pagan Christianity compatible with Alt-Right posturing.

May heaven preserve us all from such folly!"


I see nothing to dispute this on this site.

Blogger seeingsights June 22, 2017 4:16 PM  

This is a policy proposal that will be received positively by the public at large. Ronald Reagan got a lot of traction denouncing "welfare queens."
It's really an affront when an immigrant gets on welfare.
It's is a widespread--and correct opinion--in our society that an abled bodied adult non senior citizen should WORK for a living. I know one socialist who believes that too.

Blogger dc.sunsets June 22, 2017 4:19 PM  

Baby steps, I know, baby steps.

1. Welfare BAN for immigrants and non-citizens.
2. Immediate deportation for any non-citizen caught voting for so much as dog catcher, with his/her whole family rounded up, down to the damned goldfish, and shipped out.
3. 3-5 years in prison for any American caught facilitating voting fraud by non-citizens.
4. Ultimately? A complete and total cessation of immigration for at least ten years (preferably 50.)

Twenty-two years ago I took the family on a nice trip through the Rocky Mountains in CO. Last week I largely did the same trip. The big difference?

Too Many F-ing People! The USA is too crowded. Too much trash. Not enough water. Too much sprawl (all the bugaboos of the Left.)

No.
More.
Immigration.

And let's start encouraging those whose homes are elsewhere to leave for them, whether they are "legally" here or not.

Anonymous Steve June 22, 2017 4:20 PM  

This is heartless and cruel.

Lol.

Anonymous Faceless June 22, 2017 4:20 PM  

Please, President Trump, please call it the William Jefferson Clinton Commemorative Welfare and Immigration Reform Act, honoring the last president to end welfare as we know it.

Anonymous basementhomebrewer June 22, 2017 4:20 PM  

@4 Troll that you likely are, you have a very misguided sense of Christianity. Christianity has always been about personal salvation, not collective salvation. If you are so concerned about the immigrants well being, stop asking the state to take care of them and start providing for them yourself.

Anonymous Chupacabra June 22, 2017 4:21 PM  

You suck at Christianity.

Anonymous BluePony June 22, 2017 4:22 PM  

"This is heartless and cruel. It also goes against 2000 years of Christian belief, where the refugee is at least treated with dignity and respect."

OK. We'll move them into your house. Do you have adult daughters? Their homes, too.

Anonymous basementhomebrewer June 22, 2017 4:23 PM  

So this really hits a nerve with the shills. Democrats must be worried about all the elections they keep losing. They are out in full force to fight any attempts to curb their importation of new voters.

Blogger BassmanCO June 22, 2017 4:23 PM  

@4 Catholic Crusader, That's sarcasm right? If not, go to their country and preach to them if you want to help them. I care more about my kids, my family's kids and neighbor's kids then someone from some other country. Worry about our own first. We are not the world police nor the supporters of the poor and downtrodden. This country was built by people who worked, not those with a hand out.

Anonymous BluePony June 22, 2017 4:24 PM  

"Baby steps, I know, baby steps."

Pretty good one, though. I was not expecting this at all. Did I miss it on his campaign trail?

Blogger SirHamster June 22, 2017 4:24 PM  

That's the second troll using that particular quote from Wright.


It's almost like they're coordinated.

Blogger roughcoat June 22, 2017 4:24 PM  

I didn't realize "refugee" was now defined as "any asshole who manages to set foot on our soil", nor that the required treatment of refugees was free gibs for life and citizenship for all their children.

Anybody who makes it from, say, Syria to the US stopped being a refugee long before they got here.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd June 22, 2017 4:25 PM  

@9, the troll has no interest in refugees. It's only interested in virtue signaling and destruction.

Blogger dc.sunsets June 22, 2017 4:27 PM  

I stand corrected.

Put as many people on the dole as possible in this antebellum period. Make them as chronically dependent and useless and lazy as humanly possible. Destroy what little hope they had to be productive in the demanding society and economy ahead of us.

That way, when the "Borrow $1, create $1+ in GDP plus $1 in Assets (TWO FOR ONE!! Wheeee!)" economy detonates, all those people induced to join the Idiocracy will be wiped out in no time.

Unlike in TV's The Walking Dead, the real zombies do starve to death or drink sewage-contaiminated water, contract cholera or salmonella or shigella and die.

A great culling seems imminent.

Blogger Ransom Smith June 22, 2017 4:27 PM  

Ban single women while we're at it.

Please and thank you. Hypergamy needs consequences.

@catholic crusader

Go stick your head on a pike. The bible says nothing about feeding moochers. In fact it says a lot the opposite.

Anonymous Red Sector June 22, 2017 4:27 PM  

"f not, go to their country and preach to them if you want to help them."

Even better: go to their country and demand to be treated with respect and given free stuff. Be sure to Periscope it for posterity and the lulz.

Blogger Cail Corishev June 22, 2017 4:28 PM  

And he said unto them: "Go ye into the whole world and bring all nations here, so thou mayest preach the gospel to all creatures from the comfort of home." -- The Gospel of Judeo-Christ

Anonymous Faceless June 22, 2017 4:30 PM  

@4

You presume all immigrants are refugees and rejects the sin nature demonstrated by many immigrants throughout history who saw America as a way to get quick money. Your approach would have the United States founder as the children's heritage was given to any taker who came along, grabbed hold while the getting was good, and then returned home.

Wasn't that how all those pious Italian Catholics treated the United States a century ago? Some quick fun to grab the money while they could, then back to Europe? Over half of them left very quickly when they realized that they had to work.

There has to be some difference between a refugee who cannot be in their home land and an immigrant who doesn't want to work and instead wants things handed to him.

I know you Catholics aren't big on Paul, but, literally, this is enacting the idea that those who will not work but could work will not eat.

Our Lord also said that the poor will be with us forever. Every nation has its poor. The United States checkbook is not so big, nor the the taxpayer so capable of hefting ever-increasing taxes, nor the Chinese so willing to extend us unending credit, as to be able to pay for the poor of every nation. These programs are supposed to help the poor of our nation. You literally would have us judged badly by the Lord for failing to take care of our own families by spreading thinner resources that are already inadequate for the job.

Anonymous Icicle June 22, 2017 4:30 PM  

People, IT'S BEEN SIX MONTHS.

Give Trump time.

Anonymous James June 22, 2017 4:31 PM  

"That's the second troll using that particular quote from Wright. It's almost like they're coordinated."

Wright has many devoted commenters on his blog. Some trolls but some cucks. Possible some of them have migrated here?

Anonymous Tipsy June 22, 2017 4:38 PM  

FWIW, when my Czech wife legally immigrated to the US in the late 90s, I, as a US citizen, had to sign a document stating that I would sponsor her and that she would not go on welfare for 5 years.

It always struck me as unjust that an illegal immigrant could immediately claim benefits, but a legal one could not.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother June 22, 2017 4:39 PM  

The goat sucker knows about sucking.

Blogger SirHamster June 22, 2017 4:40 PM  

James wrote:"That's the second troll using that particular quote from Wright. It's almost like they're coordinated."

Wright has many devoted commenters on his blog. Some trolls but some cucks. Possible some of them have migrated here?


The previous troll pretended to be alt-right and wanted VD to react.

This troll is pretending to be liberal Christian and is again trolling for reaction.

Blogger Cail Corishev June 22, 2017 4:42 PM  

I'm kinda torn on whether I'd like to see Frank import a few hundred pet "refugees" into Vatican City. It would be a tragedy for religious and historical treasures like the Sistine Chapel to be destroyed, but it might just wake some people up.

Of course, he'll never do that. A handful once or twice for virtue signaling, as long as he knows he can export them on to Rome after the photo-ops, that's all. He's the monarch of a sovereign nation; no one could gainsay him if he filled every spare bunk in the place with "neighbors." Wonder why he doesn't?

Anonymous Rex June 22, 2017 4:45 PM  

OT: "Never talk to the media"

Blond Jew goes to leftist media to bitch about "anti-semites" on the Alt-Right...

http://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.premium-1.797372?v=931436029DE70BDF3595F0D8DD6D9AC7&v=931436029DE70BDF3595F0D8DD6D9AC7

Blogger Cail Corishev June 22, 2017 4:48 PM  

People, IT'S BEEN SIX MONTHS.

Before he took office, it was, "He will never do X, Y, and Z."
After he took office, it was, "He hasn't done X, Y, and Z yet."
Now it's becoming, "He's not doing X, Y, and Z fast/soon enough."

I don't know what it'll be after he finishes X, Y, and Z, but it'll be something.

Blogger Chris Lutz June 22, 2017 4:49 PM  

@4 No one is stopping you from going overseas or in this country from helping the poor. The issue is it isn't the responsibility of the gov't to put the needs of foreigners ahead of its own citizens. And the foreigner in Israel was expected to follow all of the rules the Israelites were under. Plus the Israelites weren't required to provide a living for the foreigner. They were required to treat them humanely (i.e. not enslave them) and not to defraud them.

Anonymous James June 22, 2017 4:49 PM  

"The previous troll pretended to be alt-right and wanted VD to react.

This troll is pretending to be liberal Christian and is again trolling for reaction. "

If it smells like coordinated then it is.

They don't realize we will stand with Wright no matter what because we are about loyalty. For example, though I disagree with National Review, I always renew my subscription. Loyalty is what we do.

Anonymous Napoleon 12pdr June 22, 2017 4:52 PM  

"...which allows federal authorities to deport immigrants who become public dependents within five years of their arrival."

Allows?! Pardon me, this should read, "Requires that immigrants who become a burden on the public are expelled within 30 days." With stiff penalties for state and local government that fail to comply.

Anonymous crushlimbraw June 22, 2017 4:53 PM  

The immigration problem is essentially a welfare problem financially.
At the end of WW2, there were hundreds of thousands of refugees in Germany. After housing them in DP camps, emigration to England, Canada, Australia and the US was administered slowly.
Only able bodied men (including heads of households) were allowed to go to England. Once gainfully employed, they could bring their families.
That was the pattern pretty much throughout the process of eventually emptying out the DP camps.
The US was the last in allowing immigrants - all had to have American sponsors to provide for their welfare. My mother and I were part of that program.
Welfare? It wasn't even in the contemplated mix.

Anonymous VFM #6306 June 22, 2017 5:03 PM  

Does this mean the end of free helicopter rides?

Won't anyone think of the children?

Blogger Tatooine Sharpshooters' Club June 22, 2017 5:09 PM  

@28 - Sovereign country, and his own central bank! So what's holding him back?

He could buy a bunch of shipping containers, plop 'em down in St. Peter's Square, fill 'em with "refugees", and declare moral victory!

We could call it, let's see, um, the Camp of the Saints.

Anonymous Takin' a Look June 22, 2017 5:12 PM  

Akinokure/Agnostic has figured out President Trump has his hands tied by the Cuckservatives. We are gonna have to get crackin'.

http://akinokure.blogspot.com/2017/06/why-gop-is-blocking-trump-agenda-he-has.html?m=1

Blogger The Remnant June 22, 2017 5:16 PM  

There should be no federal welfare for anyone, as it's not an enumerated power and amounts to robbing Peter to pay Paul (or Pablo, as the case may be). Baby steps, I suppose.

Anonymous Takin' a Look June 22, 2017 5:19 PM  

@Icicle

We are running out of time. We need to strike and protest nation-wide. Just like 20 million Iranian and Iraqi Shi'a did recently against ZOG, the Deep State, Isis, Wahabhism and Israel.

http://www.occupy.com/article/20-million-muslims-march-against-isis-and-mainstream-media-completely-ignores-it#sthash.R6kUaUVp.dpbs

Blogger Mr.MantraMan June 22, 2017 5:24 PM  

Well I dare a libtard state to double down on benefits to smite the GE with the mighty sword of Virtue Signaling

Blogger Culture War Draftee June 22, 2017 5:24 PM  

Shill response in 4. Direct hit on the open borders gang.

I try to be realistic about politics. The welfare moratorium still has got to get through Congress and random federal judges, but Trump is not cucking. He's pushing the window in the right direction. Trump is still the biggest single weapon we have. He's not easy to deploy, but when done right can be very effective.

Blogger Eric Slate June 22, 2017 5:25 PM  

That does nothing to put evolutionary pressure on the unmarriageable women plague, it just hides the problem.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd June 22, 2017 5:27 PM  

Mr.MantraMan wrote:Well I dare a libtard state to double down on benefits to smite the GE with the mighty sword of Virtue Signaling

From your keyboard to the Illinois legislature's ears ...

Blogger Elder Son June 22, 2017 5:27 PM  

Meanwhile:

1.4 million illegals working under stolen Social Security numbers

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jun/22/14-million-illegals-working-stolen-social-security/

Anonymous Somali Refugee June 22, 2017 5:28 PM  

@4 Catholic Crusader

Please and thank you most wondrous friend for your kind offer! If Allah is willing I am arrive to your home soon with my 8 wives and 36 children. Tell me do you have any virgin daughters over the age of 6?

Anonymous karsten June 22, 2017 5:29 PM  

Now watch some Leftist judge (but I repeat myself) concoct a new interpretation of some law -- any law; it doesn't matter -- to prevent this.

Because we all know that the President only serves at the pleasure of every single Federal judge in the U.S., each of whom has veto power over anything he does.

Blogger Eric Slate June 22, 2017 5:29 PM  

Catholic Crusader, you may want to check out the writings of Thomas Aquinas. What we are facing today is the deliberate attack of our people's by interests who want power over our governments...and you have the gall to call us evil for refusing to bankroll that attack? Get behind me you Satan.

Blogger Culture War Draftee June 22, 2017 5:33 PM  

Let me add that the proposal itself is effective rhetoric. Immigration, not just the illegal variety, is linked to the average American's pocketbook. It makes a clear and simple connection between immigration and your tax dollars.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash @SnidelyWhiplash on gab.ai. Speak freely. June 22, 2017 5:37 PM  

James wrote:For example, though I disagree with National Review, I always renew my subscription. Loyalty is what we do.
Loyalty is a two-way street. When NRO stops trying to destroy me and mine in the name of Israel and the Koch brothers, we can talk about loyalty. When they fry Kevin Williamson, we can talk about loyalty. When they stop NeverTrumping we can talk about loyalty.
When they stop lying, we can talk about loyalty.

"fry Kevin Williamson" was a typo, but it looks so happy, so joyous, I had to leave it.

Blogger Tuatha June 22, 2017 5:38 PM  

Not only remove welfare. Also remove voting rights for normies. Only god-fearing landowners can vote.

Anonymous Takin' a Look June 22, 2017 5:41 PM  

@The Remnant

Okay, give me your name, address and number. I've got family living with me who have Mental and Physical illness.

Both need gold-plated medicine that costs individually $4,000 a month. (we already exhausted all cheaper alternatives and charities and private insurance went "lol, no, lol!"). We'll keep the kids.

The Severe Paranoid Schizophrenic will take a spoon and dig out your eyeballs "because of worms" if she misses two days of pills, otherwise, she's a pleasure to be around!

The other dude isn't too bad, only $500 a month care.

Or should I clap her in chains in a shed? Maybe I could make a business introducing avante-garde rich people to her blood and sh*t art on the shed walls as she slowly loses her mind to the demons once again(we tried prayer, guess we're not doing it right) .

As for him, what do I do once the pain returns and he screams from a miscalculated move or a kid (being a kid) jumps on him?

Is it suicide if I just sneak up on him one night and smack a chisel between his neck vertebrate and he doesn't know?

I'm fully prepared to Burn in Hell for this man who got this way working on the job, just as I am for the gal who is terrified of ever going back to that dark place and possibly killing her whole family.

Just asking.

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 June 22, 2017 5:44 PM  

Since the Inferior Courts have ruled that the US Constitution applies to all peoples around the world in order to overturn Trump's travel ban, we are all technically immigrants.

So none of us gets the goods.

Anonymous Takin' a Look June 22, 2017 5:44 PM  

Sorry, SHE is $4,000 a month, he is $500 a month.

Blogger Lazarus June 22, 2017 5:45 PM  

Catholic Crusader wrote:As the Holy Father notes, "Whoever receives one such child in my name receives me; and whoever receives me, receives not me but him who sent me"

The Devil quotes scripture.

If you take it literally, it means Jewish children only.

Spiritually, he is talking of the babes in Christ. Not the babes in Islam, or the babes in Wicca, for instance.

See Matthew 18 1-6.

Blogger Quadko June 22, 2017 5:47 PM  

Perhaps the law could have a rider, where a resident US Citizen could surrender their citizenship and leave to let in one immigrant. They get to virtue signal, and we get to be rid of them.

Anonymous One Deplorable DT June 22, 2017 5:55 PM  

@3 - I find it patently outrageous that a Somali goatherd is imported under a refugee program and is given MEDICARE (not Medicaid, MEDICARE) free of charge, while if I am unemployed and not on SSDI, I get NOTHING after paying my FICA taxes for decades.

We have veterans who will sleep on the street tonight hungry. Not ONE immigrant or refugee should be provided for unless and until EVERY American citizen has been cared for. We as a people can debate the nature and limitations of any welfare system or safety net we devise. But whatever we have, US citizens go to the front of the line.

The fact that they currently go to the back of the line makes me want to burn DC straight to the ground.

@51 - The Remnant said that welfare was not an enumerated power of the Federal government. And it is not. It is a state issue per the 10th Amendment.

I personally would prefer to live in a nation (or state as it should be) with safety nets and the proper safeguards to make sure they are not abused. I have no guarantee from God that my health will hold out or that I will never be destitute. I certainly feel empathy for those who truly need help whether that be temporary or permanently. (I feel nothing for people who abuse it, however. Let them starve. Or as is often the case, just send them back.)

But the first conversation to have in your case is WHY those medical costs are so high. Denninger has been screaming to high heaven about this for years, and it all boils down to a nation of day dreamers who want to debate "coverage" instead of "costs." And a government that absolutely refuses to hold medical providers to the same laws the rest of us are held to.

A lot of Americans who need help would be fine if there was an actual capitalist market in healthcare. And the rest? The cost to assist them would be peanuts compared to what FedGov and the states spend today.

Blogger Elizabeth June 22, 2017 5:56 PM  

I think that before 1980, even refugees needed sponsors. A former co-worker told me that her father fled the failed Hungarian Revolution of 1956. He was sponsored by a Hungarian Reformed Church in the US, but was warned that if he ever became a public ward, he would be deported back to Hungary and they didn't care what happened to him there.

Blogger James June 22, 2017 5:56 PM  

Even though the Executive Branch enforces immigration policy and there are already laws on the book that Trump could use, this will be attacked by Demonicrats, RINO's, and more than one Federal Court District. It depends ultimately on the Supreme Court. But, when has the Supreme Court done anything for the White Posterity over the last 60 years? If Trump is real and ((((Ginsburg)))) and another leftist Justice are replaced during his term, we will find out how truly perfidious our opposition is. The do nothing lawfully. They do everything legally.

Anonymous Takin' a Look June 22, 2017 5:59 PM  

@One Deplorable DT

I love you, I really, really love you (no home if you're a man) thank you,thank you.

Blogger StatesRights June 22, 2017 6:01 PM  

He must not be up on the AltRight as much as he thinks. Obviously missed my personal favorite, point 12. LOL

Anonymous Takin' a Look June 22, 2017 6:03 PM  

@Elder Son

"Trump deportation fallout
It is obvious a large number of Mexican criminals left the United States once they knew they would be jailed under Trump. And a few of them arrived in my neighborhood. After more than 10 years without any crime at all, on my street alone, that is two blocks long suddenly there were two shootings with one guy dead, numerous home break ins and 3 thefts of cars, and at least 20 break ins of cars, where they steal anything in the car including the battery.
I'd say that is a high incident rate. Fortunately we can lock the Fiat up behind a gate with Lucas guarding it and it is not much of a target anyway. Nothing has happened to us, yet. We are not the only ones who noticed, it has been bad enough to hit the MSM, see this. Yes, Mexicans are now going to get a taste of why Americans wanted Trump."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/murders-hit-record-high-mexico-013144847.html

Blogger SteelPalm June 22, 2017 6:07 PM  

A good step, but I would like to see Trump abandon these half-measures and truly be the God-Emperor.

Yes, deny all welfare of any kind for all immigrants. Ban all Muslims from all countries, not just a few. Ban all mosques.

Since the leftists will shriek in horror and oppose him to the death anyways, might as well go all the way, instead of these compromises.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd June 22, 2017 6:17 PM  

Somali Refugee wrote:@4 Catholic Crusader

Please and thank you most wondrous friend for your kind offer! If Allah is willing I am arrive to your home soon with my 8 wives and 36 children. Tell me do you have any virgin daughters over the age of 6?


If only we could arrange this ...

Elder Son wrote:Meanwhile:

1.4 million illegals working under stolen Social Security numbers

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jun/22/14-million-illegals-working-stolen-social-security/


What a pity none of them are working on my account. Seeing all that money go to the Ponzi scheme would hurt less if some of it weren't mine.

The Remnant wrote:There should be no federal welfare for anyone, as it's not an enumerated power and amounts to robbing Peter to pay Paul (or Pablo, as the case may be). Baby steps, I suppose.

Federal welfare is unconstitutional. It's surely a good thing that silly old constitution isn't enforced anymore, or the leaches couldn't leach.

Takin' a Look wrote:@The Remnant

Okay, give me your name, address and number.


You have problems. The Remnant may have problems, but he doesn't have your problems. I'm sorry it sucks to be you, but don't try to drag the rest of us down with you.

One Deplorable DT wrote:Not ONE immigrant or refugee should be provided for unless and until EVERY American citizen has been cared for. We as a people can debate the nature and limitations of any welfare system or safety net we devise. But whatever we have, US citizens go to the front of the line.

If charity doesn't begin at home, it shouldn't begin at all. If the government is doing it, it isn't charity anyway, it's theft.

Anonymous Takin' a Look June 22, 2017 6:24 PM  

@Ominous Cowherd

"Takin' a Look wrote:@The Remnant

Okay, give me your name, address and number.

You have problems. The Remnant may have problems, but he doesn't have your problems. I'm sorry it sucks to be you, but don't try to drag the rest of us down with you."

You are absolutely correct. Gimme back my share of taxes for the roads you drive on, the airspace you safely flew on, the kids you sent to public school (or private/charter they get exemptions, want it back) and a multitude of other things I paid local, state and federal that you used.

Sucks to be you, maybe you can hook up with Jacques Vallee and not have to deal with the likes of us plebs.

Anonymous Takin' a Look June 22, 2017 6:31 PM  

I mean, really, you and your family and spawn are just dragging the rest of us down with flagrant usage of public and (hehehahahaw) "private" infrastructure. You're your own man, you'll be fine constructing that open-sea habitat in international unclaimed doldrums AND paying back every last monetary debt to society since you were shat out of your mother's rectum.

Blogger Chris Mallory June 22, 2017 6:32 PM  

@51 I have been dealing with pretty much the same predicament. I have come to the conclusion that medical science has advanced too far. We are keeping people alive who should have passed long ago.
It is impoverishing families to provide this care and if you send the "patient" to a nursing facility, the "clawback" will take every thing they ever owned, down to the life insurance, minus a small amount for burial. Yet we can import hordes of savages and ship billions in welfare to Israel.

Anonymous Takin' a Look June 22, 2017 6:43 PM  

Oh.... Your son broke a leg falling from a wind-mast? Your wife got her leg bitten off by an oceanic white-tip while out repairing a desalinator? No doctor on board? No worries, for the price of your daughter's virginity and soul, a Saudi Prince will send a doctor within two hours.

Anonymous Just another commenter June 22, 2017 6:44 PM  

...And welfare fraud should result in immiediate stripping of residency/citizenship, followed by deportation via trebuchet.

This is the sort of thing that should be a "no duh!" legislation. The left constantly harps on how much immigrants contribute to the economy. Well, if they do, then this won't hurt them at all, right? So no problems!

Blogger Chris Mallory June 22, 2017 6:55 PM  

OT: Looks like a major bust of kiddy diddlers in Hollywood. 238 arrested, including entertainers and politicians.

Blogger Jason June 22, 2017 6:56 PM  

Maybe there is a useful precedent with the 5 year idea and extend it to requiring 5 years of tax paying before you can access welfare as well.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 22, 2017 6:58 PM  

Chris Mallory wrote:OT: Looks like a major bust of kiddy diddlers in Hollywood.
Link please?

Blogger Michael Maier June 22, 2017 6:59 PM  

All categories of federal benefits should be off-limits to immigrants.

Including employment.

Anonymous Takin' a Look June 22, 2017 7:00 PM  

@Just another commentor

Exactly, 100% agreed

Anonymous Takin' a Look June 22, 2017 7:01 PM  

^this man @michael maier gets it

Anonymous Takin' a Look June 22, 2017 7:12 PM  

Oh you're desperately asking ME and my fellow Gamaliel white Christian westerners for Aid?

Sorry, you explicitly said "I am not your neighbor" after being raised amongst us. Why should we even give you the scraps from the children's table or play the Good Samaritan? You rejected us! You chose not to as the Texas expression goes "Dance with them that brung ya". So we will wipe the dust off our sandals and turn feet.

Anonymous Tipsy June 22, 2017 7:14 PM  

Chris Mallory wrote:OT: Looks like a major bust of kiddy diddlers in Hollywood. 238 arrested, including entertainers and politicians.

The giant mystery to me was how this has managed to go on unabated in plain sight for decades. Multiple examples abound: Roman Polanski, the Jack Woltz character in the Godfather, who is supposedly modeled after a major Hollywood studio executive, etc.

Recently, The most interesting man in the world, Jonathan Goldsmith, was quoted as saying: His one date with Garland, the star of The Wizard of Oz, left him disturbed. He writes: As a child actress, she would suffer abuse at the hands of studio executives, who passed her around like chattel...she and the other actors were frequently drugged up'.

So, Judy Garland was a victim, as were many child actors that are beginning to come forward.

When will they get the justice they deserve?

Anonymous Takin' a Look June 22, 2017 7:14 PM  

Not "Gamaliel", hajnali.

Anonymous Takin' a Look June 22, 2017 7:16 PM  

Who knows? Smdh

Anonymous Takin' a Look June 22, 2017 7:25 PM  

@Elizabeth

As it should be.

Blogger allyn71 June 22, 2017 7:28 PM  

For example, though I disagree with National Review, I always renew my subscription. Loyalty is what we do.

Gay

Blogger Chris Mallory June 22, 2017 7:39 PM  

https://vultureofcritique.wordpress.com/2017/06/23/238-arrested-in-major-hollywood-pedophile-ring-bust/

Blogger Chris Mallory June 22, 2017 7:41 PM  

Ok, looking deeper into the kiddy molesters, the story is a year old.

Blogger Auriga Spacecoach June 22, 2017 7:42 PM  

@Takin' a Look
@Chris Mallory

For all those who know someone with mental illness, this is the best page I've seen for how to treat mental illnesses without patented pharmaceuticals. It is Dissolving Biochemical Depression at:
http://www.joanmathewslarson.com/HRC_2006/Depression_06/D_sadness_inside_you.htm

Anonymous Takin' a Look June 22, 2017 7:43 PM  

@Chris Mallory

Dude....what the hell are you talking about?!?! We've had safe, moral,100% disease eliminating tech in the form of 6,000 patents for all Mankind in it's various species, races, ethnicities for over 100 years. Everyone can live 120+ years in perfect health and with a body, mind and empathy of a good genetic hajnali 25 year old _easily_!

Anonymous Takin' a Look June 22, 2017 7:47 PM  

Thank you, asked about it, mental health said they'd cut her off cold turkey. Not interested in us waking up not seeing because our eyeballs were dug out.

Please go Tom Kratman on them all, seriously, PLEASE!

Anonymous BBGKB June 22, 2017 8:02 PM  

The Ebola case that came to Texas lied to get on a plane and used welfare money given to relatives Obama let stay in the US because it wasn't safe to send them back.

I find it patently outrageous that a Somali goatherd is imported under a refugee program and is given MEDICARE

They are often put on Social Security Disability, they can get SSD for not speaking English. I know there is 3rd world trash living in nicer houses than some of my working relatives live in.

Only god-fearing landowners can vote.

Does the god Moloch count?

Looks like a major bust of kiddy diddlers in Hollywood. 238 arrested, including entertainers and politicians.

That doesn't even scratch the surface in Hollywood. That might have been just one party busted.

Anonymous DonReynolds June 22, 2017 8:06 PM  

According to the buzz on talk radio, we already have this law on the books, passed back in 1996. Of course, it already carves out an exception to the ban for those granted asylum, war refugees, and dependents of US veterans....but we already have this ban on welfare benefits for "immigrants". We also have a ban on ILLEGAL ALIENS receiving welfare benefits too, already on the books. Try getting the Liberals in the Deep State to enforce the bans we already have in the law. Proposing still more bans to be ignored, seems to be the way things actually work.

It would be excellent if we enforced the ban on persons immigrating to the USA with communicable diseases. Until fairly recently, we also had an age restriction that kept out the old foreign population seeking free health care. In fact, US law used to require sponsors, and proof of financial responsibility, and skills/abilities/education unavailable from Americans or in such short supply to justify foreign workers.

WE used to do many things and many of those same laws are still on the books, but getting the Feds (and the Deep State) to actually enforce those laws appears to be the problem these days.

Re-entering the USA after being deported is punishable by 20 years in Federal prison. Some of the most violent criminal aliens in this country are still being arrested after being deported more than 15 times!

Blogger Randy June 22, 2017 8:08 PM  

@6 dc.sunsets
3-5 years in prison for any American caught facilitating voting fraud
WRONG. Voter fraud is treason, and should be punished accordingly.

@4 Catholic Crusader
My Bible says 'if any would not work, neither should he eat'



Blogger Thucydides June 22, 2017 8:25 PM  

You know, extending this idea to all people in the United States (or at least keeping a running tab so their Welfare draw does not exceed their inputs (taxes) plus a reasonable rate of compounding) would probably do wonders for the welfare rate.

After all, simple means tests or telling people welfare is contingent on work or training alone can cause caseloads to fall dramatically....

Anonymous Takin' a Look June 22, 2017 8:50 PM  

Oh, if anybody asks why I haven't done all possible...

Where were you assholes? ESPECIALLY the baby boomers and above. I'm old enough to have a deaf friend who's parents were told to asylum him. His parents and family told them to eat sh*t and inspite of his total inability to hear constanants, he speaks so unbelievably well it is amazing. He literally fills every constanant in his mind and politely asks for repetitions as needed. He still can't hold a permanent job as a construction worker even though he loves it and supports a family on it.

Two years ago he had his leg slashed open to the bone due to an accident. Aside from medical care, he refuses ssi, or anything else. He is old at 40 and walks with a swollen limp (twice infected) after 10-12 hour days.

He is old school and will have nothing to do with the world because it means his family is exposed.

He is broken, greyed, limping at 40 and the best man I have ever known and he will die soon. He can't compete with young natives let alone immigrants. Still he tries.


Where were you? Busy justifying a bunch of Churchian crap?

This book was written in the Clinton years in the '90s

This sort of self sacrificial hajnali stuff was already running on fumes during the Clinton years in the '90s

http://images.gr-assets.com/books/1442378091l/1869.jpg

Now, we heritage blue to middle class Americans are OD'ing in droves, you've all abandoned us.

"it is not right to take the children's bread and give it to the dogs/even the evil ones prepare a table and house for their progeny"

Blogger Tatooine Sharpshooters' Club June 22, 2017 9:00 PM  

@86 - You would have to look long and hard to find a government program more disabused of its stated purpose than Social Security "Disability Insurance".

Of course, scratch a scam, and you come away with lawyer under your nails:

http://www.disabilitysecrets.com/

Blogger Cetera June 22, 2017 9:08 PM  

To the fake Catholic at #4:
Forced wealth redistribution at gunpoint is not, can not, and never will be charity. Instead, it is a grave evil that precludes charity by depriving individuals of means they might willing give to charity, as well as engendering negative and very uncharitable feelings of resentment and hostility.

Charity is supposed to be an individual act of the will, whereby you help someone in need in a personal manner, and come to see the other individual as a child of God, worthy of love. Charity encourages spiritual growth, learning to see another as God sees us, and helping us to become more like Him.

Welfare, wealth redistribution, and socialism are grave evils that lessen the dignity of the person.

As far as "Whoever receives one such child in my name receives me; and whoever receives me, receives not me but him who sent me", by all means, YOU receive them, into your own home. Forcing someone else to take them and care for them and claiming to take emotional or spiritual credit for their good works is another grave evil.

You may need to seriously examine your conscience, maybe find a good confessor and spiritual advisor, and start examining the state of your eternal soul.

Blogger Scott Alfter June 22, 2017 9:20 PM  

The Cafeteria Catholic Crusader might want to brush up on his theology: "For also when we were with you, this we declared to you: that, if any man will not work, neither let him eat." (2 Thessalonians 3:10) Catholic charitable activities revolve around this principle.

Blogger Akulkis June 22, 2017 9:34 PM  

During the Cold War, immigrants required a sponsor who would be on the hook for the costs if the sponsored person ever became a public charge. And as I recall, all immigrants were specifically prohibited from any welfare of any sort for a period of 10 years.

Anonymous johnc June 22, 2017 9:34 PM  

"...he will soon ask Congress to pass legislation..."

Stopped reading right there.

Anonymous Siobhan June 22, 2017 9:39 PM  

@Takin' a Look: I honor your steadfast support for such challenging family members. You and they are in my prayers.

Anonymous Takin' a Look June 22, 2017 9:41 PM  

@Cetera

Then I want my money back forcibly taken from me to provide the charity of easily accessible roads for your vehicle to get to your damn job.

Why should I pay damn thing so you can get to work? How is that my or anybody else's responsibility? Or ease to a hospital, or ease to well... Pretty much anything? Hike your ass to where you need to go.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd June 22, 2017 9:44 PM  

@64: I see it's not just NAMs that love their gibsmedats.

Blogger Cetera June 22, 2017 9:44 PM  

Takin' a Look wrote:Then I want my money back forcibly taken from me to provide...

Me too, me too.

Blogger X June 22, 2017 9:50 PM  

All categories of federal benefits should be abolished.

Anonymous Takin' a Look June 22, 2017 9:51 PM  

@Ominous Cowherd

What gibsmedats? Oh! Not paying $4,500 a month for meds for family after being denied.Gotcha. that's gibsmedats.

@Cetera

We are also removing all infrastructure from you and your plot of land and demand all back pay since you got shat out of your mother's rectum.

Anonymous Takin' a Look June 22, 2017 9:58 PM  

@Cetera and Ominous Cowherd

I'm sure you all will faithfully pay back everything since birth while building your thriving floating algae farm in non-claimed waters in the Sargasso Sea.

Blogger Cetera June 22, 2017 10:00 PM  

Is that all you've got, Takin' a Look? Is that your best effort? Come on, and this time, put some stank on it!

Anonymous Takin' a Look June 22, 2017 10:04 PM  

@X

We populists are sticking as many invalids with you as you can reasonably afford(we'll decide of course)

Anonymous Grinder June 22, 2017 10:09 PM  

I would support this, even though if it managed to be implemented I would expect a tidal wave of brown garbage trekking up to Justin Trudeau's Canada where none will be refused taxpayer funded gibs to assuage the trauma caused by Trump's words. The shock might help to redpill many more of my fellow Canucks into action. Unfortunately, I suspect nothing like it will come out of Congress because the crony capitalists need US taxpayers to support the migrant labour and will lobby their Congressmen to never pass such heartless measures. Failing that, I am given to understand that much welfare type benefits are the purview of the states.
What a true nationalist president should do is not waste any more time with these proposals that will be portrayed by (((big media))) like a literal genocide of poor migrants. The war is on so the nationalist side needs to fight to win. Compromise and negotiation are useless. Seize an opportunity to declare a state of emergency and round up traitors and fifth columnists in government, media and the judiciary and replace them with loyal Americans. Germany's Reichstag fire did a great deal to expedite the eradication of Marxism in Germany only one month into Hitler's chancellorship but some of you think Trump needs more than the 6 months he already has had. He could have done it already if he ever really intended to and had the guts to save America.

Anonymous Takin' a Look June 22, 2017 10:12 PM  

@Cetera

Why so angry? Really? Did the toxoplasmosis-infected feces of your rectum-delivering jackal of a mother eat away at your fore-brain?

Did you come upon a kitten in the woods in youth and stomp it to death in glee only to wonder"who might've found out?" didn't ultimately matter right? Just a piece of meat.

Blogger Jake June 22, 2017 10:16 PM  

@106:

"Why so angry? Really? Did..."

That's just great. Thanks for amusing us all.

Anonymous Takin' a Look June 22, 2017 10:20 PM  

@Jake or whoever you are...

Suck it up buttercup. The hajnalis are awakening....and we are PISSED.

Anonymous Incurvatus June 22, 2017 10:21 PM  

for any idiots who throw Old Testament hospitality verses around, be sure to fully understand that those who stuck around were required to fully integrate and worship alongside everyone else or else be stoned as blasphemers.

Blogger Cetera June 22, 2017 10:22 PM  

Well Takin', we've established your logic and reasoning isn't that great, and your creative writing needs some work. It isn't strong enough to cover for your weak critical thinking, nor distract from you losing the argument.

I think the next step is direct threats. How is your work there?

Blogger tz June 22, 2017 10:24 PM  

Build the wall so the don't come in.
Nor the refugee dogs, yes real dogs that are wild or diseased.

Blogger ZhukovG June 22, 2017 10:25 PM  

@Takin' a Look: Chill dude. The Libertarian is an endangered species and your aggressive behavior could cause them to become infertile for the next mating season.

I do however award you marine biological bonus points for calling out the Oceanic Whitetip. One nasty fish.

Fair warning though, when the fewmets strike the windmill, there may be a serious interruption in a lot of basic things like medical care. Also, whatever successor states take over after the collapse of the American Union may not have the wherewithal to offer some of the services that any of us are used to.

Anonymous Takin' a Look June 22, 2017 10:32 PM  

@no, we've established you are not hajnali genetically or mentally, least of all culturally. You're more an atavistic throw-back to what Clive Blakemore and Koranic Soul and even Vox himself would call a failed hybrid parasite line, scattered and expressed throughout the generations.

As for threats, I offer none but my observations. You, as a typical Naphil jackal-rectum born.... Enthusiastically resort to such.

Blogger SJ June 22, 2017 10:34 PM  

Why would we want to ban women from immigrating? Why not allow single women but ban single men? I mean if we're not just gonna ban all immigration?

Blogger Cetera June 22, 2017 10:37 PM  

Takin' a Look wrote:and even Vox himself would call a failed hybrid parasite line, scattered and expressed throughout the generations.

LOL. Yeah, pretty sure Vox can speak for himself, and dish out his own insults. You are no Vox Day.

I would wager a shiny buffalo-head nickle you aren't even sure which side of the argument you're currently on. I fear you may not be quite tall enough to ride this ride.

Anonymous Takin' a Look June 22, 2017 10:38 PM  

@ZhukovG

F*ck them. The evil ashkepathy* goyim traitors.

And yes, I know it may all collapse. I am hanging on by a thread here

*https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2017/06/19/ashkepathy/

Anonymous SigOther June 22, 2017 10:40 PM  

No no no. Single Whyte females who don't bicycle no needy fish.... Have to go back.
Marriage, or else deportation, disenfranchisement, and or stripping of citizenship. That'll cure the West of the Mind Virus most ricky-tick.

Anonymous Takin' a Look June 22, 2017 10:47 PM  

Sadly, my wager is nothing more than a bus model toy and hug and "best friends forever" from a boy from long ago who I don't even remember the name of and the model is made in China.

I remember he Loved me. And I Loved him. We could've been brothers.(shrugs shoulders)

Old as I am, I Remember.

Anonymous SigOther June 22, 2017 11:11 PM  

I think the schizoid got the keyboard there. Hope the totally authentic right winger accidentally spouting Marxist materialist ethics about his gibsmedat for the "family" that he took in is still ok... I'm sure he will let us know with some additional diatribe about a maternal rectum or something...

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 22, 2017 11:12 PM  

ZhukovG wrote:The Libertarian is an endangered species and your aggressive behavior could cause them to become infertile for the next mating season.

Heh, Libertarians don't have a mating season. Libertarians orbit and get lucky once in a while.

Anonymous Takin' a Look June 22, 2017 11:24 PM  

@Snidely Whiplash

Can we Quadaffi all the white traitors like Hillary did?

Anonymous Mr. Rational June 22, 2017 11:33 PM  

dc.sunsets wrote:Ultimately? A complete and total cessation of immigration for at least ten years (preferably 50.)
Permanently for at least the 99.9%.  Automation makes immigration obsolete.  Did some time ago, AAMOF.

Anonymous Takin' a Look June 22, 2017 11:38 PM  

Hey @SigOther

Give me your personal address, number and name and we'll see how you like dealing with a crazy person with no meds trying to dig the worms out of your eyes. Just for shots and giggles, let's webm the whole thing on /pol.

You accept full responsibility for _everything_, you're not allowed any meds or previous history.

Blogger John Wright June 22, 2017 11:42 PM  

@4
" "I do notice that, in the same way a Leftist Christian is ever called upon to chose between Leftism and Christ, he never picks Christ"

It is really odd that a Leftist Christian would quote this passage to criticize the Alt Right, when Trump is not Alt Right and when government run transfer payments from taxpayers to refugees is alien to Christian teaching.

Am I the only one seeing the irony here? Treating a needy stranger with respect does not mean letting him treat himself to your wallet, house, and daughter, kill you and erect a Mosque where Christ is daily blasphemed. That is not Christian charity. That is not even sanity. That is virtue signalling.

If you want to give your own money privately to paynims rather than your own neighbors, do so and godspeed. If you want to stick me up and give my money to enemy nations, to the devil with you, and stop pretending your Phariseeism is Christian teaching.

You will give us all a bad name.

Anonymous Takin' a Look June 22, 2017 11:43 PM  

@SigOther

What I mean is.... You have to repeat the whole damn process all over again while she goes from okay... To.... Zombie.... To... "fuck! They all got worms in their eyes!!!!! Get the spoons!!!"

I'm have tubs of popcorn and coca cola every night when I get off work watching you all on the live webm.

Anonymous Takin' a Look June 22, 2017 11:46 PM  

@Catholic Crusader

Eat sh*t

Blogger John Wright June 22, 2017 11:48 PM  

@15
In this case, a misquote by Wright. He knows damned well what I meant.

The Alt Right are not wrong about immigration. Deport all illegals, round up alien voter frauds, no welfare at all for these migrants, no new immegrants for a generation or two.

Nothing unchristian about that. God MEANT men to have separate nations and tongues. That is why He smote the Tower of Babel. Nimrod was the first globalist.

Anonymous Takin' a Look June 22, 2017 11:53 PM  

@Mr Wright

Tell your (((favorite people))) to ease off their collective, neurotic, psychopathic bs please.

Anonymous Takin' a Look June 22, 2017 11:57 PM  

Agreed @mr. Rational

Anonymous Takin' a Look June 23, 2017 12:00 AM  

@roughcoat

Agreed

Blogger Cetera June 23, 2017 12:36 AM  

@123
Ah, there's the threat. I knew it was coming. I think we're done here. Can someone please take out the trash?

Anonymous JAG June 23, 2017 12:54 AM  

Takin' a Look wrote:Hey @SigOther

Give me your personal address, number and name and we'll see how you like dealing with a crazy person with no meds trying to dig the worms out of your eyes. Just for shots and giggles, let's webm the whole thing on /pol.

You accept full responsibility for _everything_, you're not allowed any meds or previous history.


Gives us your personal information first. I think you are full of crap (probably from the same anus that shat you out).

Anonymous 5343 Kinds of Deplorable June 23, 2017 1:29 AM  

@124. John! Excellent. I totally agree.

Blogger Kristophr June 23, 2017 1:54 AM  

Psycho libertarian is the worst kind of libertarian.

First he wants free treatment, then he complains about paying for roads. Even L. Neil Smith is on the deport them all wagon, these days.

Blogger Ingot9455 June 23, 2017 8:39 AM  

Just as an aside, all drug companies have programs for uninsured and indigent patients. If you are really paying 4500 a month for drugs and not home health care, then you should look into contacting the manufacturer of each drug for the details of their program to see if you can qualify.

Anonymous Han Solo June 23, 2017 10:11 AM  

>2000 years of Christian belief, where the refugee is at least treated with dignity and respect.

GOVERNMENT WELFARE IS NOT CHARITY.

If Christians want to support charity, they need to get off their butts, get their hands dirty and do it themselves, and stop thinking it can just be done by some nameless, faceless, godless, government bureaucrat.

Anonymous rienzi June 23, 2017 10:24 AM  

Takin' a Look

Just a FYI, but have you considered getting your drugs outside of the US? Canada is famous for much cheaper drugs, as is Mexico. A friend's wife had a lot of very expensive dental work done in Costa Rica for a fraction of what it would cost here. The medications that I, unfortunately have to take, cost only about 10% in Spain as what I have to pay here.

Do some "outside the box" thinking. Your wallet will thank you, as will your relatives.

Anonymous andon June 23, 2017 10:59 AM  

4. Anonymous Catholic Crusader June 22, 2017 4:15 PM
This is heartless and cruel. It also goes against 2000 years of Christian belief, where the refugee is at least treated with dignity and respect.


you should pay for them

in case you hadnt noticed Africans cant even support themselves much less their offspring with 12 different women and yet for some reason they cant stop copulating

and of course they're not "refugees" either, they are economic migrants/parasites

if i had the power i'd shove them all into the houses of xxxxx like you

Blogger Cluebat Vanexodar June 23, 2017 12:16 PM  

Before marrying my wife, I was required to sign an acknowledgment confirming my understanding that I was prohibited from receiving government assistance (NL). Seemed very sensible to me. I cannot understand the logic opposing this restriction. I conclude that it is a dishonest argument made to undermine our sovereignty.

Blogger John Wright June 23, 2017 12:52 PM  

@136
"If Christians want to support charity, they need to get off their butts, get their hands dirty and do it themselves, and stop thinking it can just be done by some nameless, faceless, godless, government bureaucrat."

Amen, brother.

As GK Chesterton says: The Christian ideal has not been tried and found wanting. It has been found difficult; and left untried.

Blogger John Wright June 23, 2017 12:57 PM  

@128
"Tell your (((favorite people))) to ease off their collective, neurotic, psychopathic bs please."

I have no friends among Leftwing Jews, and the Rightwing Jews are on my side and are neither collectivist nor neurotic.

You are confusing race with uniform. Again. That makes you the collective neurotic. One sign of neurosis is confusing symbol with reality.

Blogger kurt9 June 23, 2017 1:28 PM  

If immigrants need public assistance to survive, how can one argue that immigrants are beneficial for the economy?

Anonymous Takin' a Look June 24, 2017 1:39 PM  

Thank you everyone who offered some sort of help. God Bless you.

@John Wright

I do hope you have chosen well, I enjoy your books. I will say this, there is a reason Talmudics have been expelled +350 times in the last 2,000 as far afield from the Christian West as Canton, China in the 800s A.D. to most recently, a syncretic pagan Mayan village in Guatemala in 2014.

Anonymous Takin' a Look June 24, 2017 1:40 PM  

*last two thousand years

Anonymous Takin' a Look June 24, 2017 2:07 PM  

@John Wright

To put that in perspective, Karaite Jews have been around for two thousand years, made up half of world Jewry in 1200 A.D. (probably 10 million) and had as great a diaspora as the Talmudics. Yet they have an expulsion record that can be counted on one hand (and half of that probably is due to being mixed up with neighboring Talmudics).

It's not being Christ-killers, it's not funny hats or side-locks. It is due to collective behavior.

Anonymous Takin' a Look June 24, 2017 5:33 PM  

@John Wright.

Karaite Jews:2,000 years old, made up half of diaspora/World Jewry by 1200AD.less than five expulsions.

Talmudic Jews:2,700 years old, made up half diaspora/world Jewry by 1200 AD, now make up 99%. Expelled +350 times.

Both are culturally and genetically distinct

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