The construction of rhetoric
In last night's Darkstream, I noted that the most effective rhetoric tends to have something in common: it is based on mocking an aspect of the target's self-identification.
For example, the reason Social Justice Warrior is effective rhetoric that triggers the emotions of SJWs while derogatory terms like Social Justice Bully and Social Justice Crybaby do not is because "warrior" is a term that the SJWs gave themselves, and more importantly, it is how they see themselves. To hear the term used contemptuously, as an open form of mockery, is what causes the emotional pain that triggers them.
Fake News, which is arguably the most effective rhetorical term ever deployed against the media, is almost exactly the same. It is a term originally coined by the media, but stolen and deployed against them, and one that strikes at the very heart of their self-value and self-identification as devotees of truth and accuracy.
So, as an exercise, let's see if anyone can utilize this principle to come up with a rhetorical term for moderates that would serve as an alternative to Cuckservative, which is itself already an effective tag that is a play on a self-title rather than an actual one, but nevertheless strikes powerfully at the conservative's self-image as loyal and moral.
For example, the reason Social Justice Warrior is effective rhetoric that triggers the emotions of SJWs while derogatory terms like Social Justice Bully and Social Justice Crybaby do not is because "warrior" is a term that the SJWs gave themselves, and more importantly, it is how they see themselves. To hear the term used contemptuously, as an open form of mockery, is what causes the emotional pain that triggers them.
Fake News, which is arguably the most effective rhetorical term ever deployed against the media, is almost exactly the same. It is a term originally coined by the media, but stolen and deployed against them, and one that strikes at the very heart of their self-value and self-identification as devotees of truth and accuracy.
So, as an exercise, let's see if anyone can utilize this principle to come up with a rhetorical term for moderates that would serve as an alternative to Cuckservative, which is itself already an effective tag that is a play on a self-title rather than an actual one, but nevertheless strikes powerfully at the conservative's self-image as loyal and moral.
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The Conservatives are afraid to fight against evil because it might make them feel icky.
That makes them Enablers of Evil.
Principled losers. Think tank Americans. Cocktail conservatives.
That makes them Enablers of Evil.
You have it completely backwards. You're still trying to create rhetoric from dialectic. It doesn't work like that.
Stop trying to "make sense" or "reveal the truth". That is not how to create effective rhetoric.
Equalatards? :)
Diversatives?
Orderlies. (They valve order and properness, so rather than being about Order it makes them the staff in One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest.) Though not the best kill shot.
Progressives wouldn't work because it's like calling a tall man "tall".
"Why don't you move to Iraq/Syria/Libya?", too passive aggressive.
They have hang ups about the Civil Rights movement, so maybe "AA-Hires" at the writers might work. For as much as the "Conservatives" would be against quotas & set-asides, they functionally are that themselves in D.C. There's room for a killshot there.
Not much has hit as hard as cuckservative. RINOs, media whores, country club republicans... has never changed a think. They seem to be individualistic enough to think that even though their cause is losing that they themselves are winners. Cuckservative strikes at the identity of an individual in a way few other things do. It is emasculating. The only thing that might strike equally would be an association with being a coward. But Chickenhawk did nothing to change Ben Shapiro in any meaningful way. Chickpublican would keep it at one word, but is more likely to evoke the image of a blond media whore talking head. ConSoyvative...
Moderating for child brides and clitorectomies isn't moderate.
Soypublican... estrogen Americans... soyboys instead of the manly image of cowboys. Heartiste could generate one up. Top shelf wordsmith.
Cuntservative.
Lukewarm chicken?
Moderates are moderate because they're too afraid to declare for one side or another, always claiming "the truth is somewhere in between." So neither hot nor cold = lukewarm, and chicken = cowardly.
moderates are donkeys for rapists
Corpservatives
Kamp Kommandants? Nazi + Hogan's Heroes + Idiot tag.
They view themselves as good people, so anything that can twist that with a cultural illusion would be powerful. They don't like to be called Racist or associated with Nazism, but it can't be too terribly direct.
Concentration Camp Watcher is too long. They are Fence Sitters, but that's also not enough of a nuke.
"Affirmative Action Hires" should work really well on the "Conservative" writers. They should respond badly to that one.
Still in the same lane as cuckservative, but Heartiste has used the term Recucklican.
Roman Republican
The only way to define a moderate is by calling him "toilet doorman", given enough justified pressure they will let anybody in, almost anyone claiming urgency will be let in.
Transservative - although born liberal and with all liberal principles still intact, totally, 100%, fully conservative in every single way.
MDH, media diversity hires
Ok, working through this: their biggest self conception is as the "responsible adults in the room who reign in the overeager rambunctious youth of the left"
That's what we need to attack. Something that suggests they're not the responsible parents of cool kids, but out of touch weirdos who only act mature, but everyone else thinks of as posers?
Bowtie Babies? Nah
How do you twist "responsible adult"? They have a weird attachment to the left and want to be liked by them (as the responsible elder). Pedophile...Creepy Uncle?
Creepservative?
Maybe just "Failures".
"Future Trump Voter", might land with a few.
"Whore Breeders" might work on some of the Women.
I think some people aren't understanding. It needs to be a term that they would normally like, right? How about something like Real Conservative? True Conservative? "Sorry, I'm not a #trueconservative like you."
The B Team
(exposing their lack of seriousness, their collusion in the uniparty.)
Conservatives are like moderate Muslims; indefensible positions; intellectually dishonest and they whine when their side is winning.
If we're going after moderates and we're looking for nuclear class, the killshot is based around being pro-Rape. Rape & being Hilter are the only "sins" they all agree upon.
"Rape Realists"?
Most of these are terrible and completely ignore Vox's writings on the subject.
Then again, my own might be hardly better;
1. Traitorservatives
2. Treasonous snakes
3. Suicidal cucks
4. Communist sympathizers
Third-Worlders
Discivic-Nationalist
Suttees
"Moderate Liberal" Ben Shapiro...
Loserates.
Middlebi***es.
Ulick McGee wrote:Transservative - although born liberal and with all liberal principles still intact, totally, 100%, fully conservative in every single way.
I had been thinking of a way to combine the trans nonsense with conservatives. I like the concept, but nothing suitably catchy has struck me.
And no, I don't think it has to be something they would like to be called as much as it has to be something that emotionally impacts their self image. Nobody wanted to be called a cuckservative. The problem with lifting a straight self description from Republicans/conservatives is that those designations have no cool connotations to begin with. Republicans haven't had a good rhetorical tool to redirect since they kept hammering democrats with communism/socialism. Bill Clinton pretty much ran rings around them and took that off the table.
The principled fence sitters
Vigorous fence sitters
Those who vigorously sit fence
far center extremists
Mendacrats?
Mopirates?
Got it.
Frauderates.
Judas-Americans
Some antonym that plays on their failure to conserve, which is probably part of their identity in name only (they really are the progressive B team, the radicals square dad)
Squandcervatives, consumicans, ruinpublicans?
Roadkill?
I know, I know, but it's late (or very early, depending) and I'm tired.
We could call them "Principled Conservatives". There is also the old favorite "Compassionate Conservatives".
Raceservatives
Rapeservatives
Cultural Rapists (plays on anti-colonalism, historicism and Pro-Rape aspects)
Toygoys. From toyboy and goy (check "goys guide to the world").
As in, "the Toygoys in Congress listens to their masters when they come up with suggestions for new Bills".
Example of such bills
"Is US going to appease or surprise at the upcoming AIPAC conference? The former option is probably more likely.
WASHINGTON – The American Israel Public Affairs Committee convenes Sunday with a fixed agenda, set to press members of Congress to punish Iran for its regional behavior, combat efforts to delegitimize Israel and maintain robust US defense aid for the Jewish state.
But when AIPAC hosts senior members of the Trump administration at its conference for the first time, the new president’s staff will have a stage – and an opportunity – to outline an Israel policy agenda of their own.
So what will the White House bring to the table?
President Donald Trump’s team supports the lobby’s existing agenda, which includes passage of two significant bills in Congress that have already received substantial bipartisan support. One of those bills would impose new non-nuclear sanctions on Iran, while the other would target international non-governmental organizations and bodies that seek to boycott, divest and sanction Israel over its treatment of the Palestinians."
http://m.jpost.com/Israel-News/Politics-And-Diplomacy/Analysis-Trumps-Israel-agenda-faces-AIPAC-test-485178
Just like toyboys, toygoys regularly get %@&#% in the -&%- by their masters only to be left with a nasty infection and money in the bank.
Canada has a far center extremism problem. We can't seem to get the normies off of the fence. Somebody get the stick!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ap-BcRv1LXw
True Conservative. I thought this was already a term of mockery until I heard some Erick Erickson followers use it without irony.
Constitution Fetish
my third comment made it through, will the first two (they were better?)
Tea Kettle Republicans
Moderates are Nice People. (Well, they're nice to evil people, not necessarily to good people.)
Tea Kettle Conservative
Fauxderpats.
Obama Conservative
CNN Conservative
#20 - How about #TrueCon?
They are engaged in an intellectual con game, after all, ever since the CIA bankrolled Buckley?
Civic Nationalists, every person of color should own one.
Low Energy Conservative
The Israeli Right
LBJ/FDR Republicans
Tea Cake Conservative
Moderates are Flexible about everything. Definitely useful in combination with a visual meme, even if it doesn't work as rhetoric on its own.
Moderates spend their lives in Gray Areas. And I'm not (only) talking about their (natural) hair color.
The principled conservative, because bathrooms are for everyone.
Moderates believe they are fair and balanced. But since they seem to willfully ignore what's really going on, or ignore the real facts, they cannot truly be fair and balanced. So you have to mock that with your label.
Obtuse?
Blinderates?
I do like True Cons, but then I'm the person who thought White Preservationist was a good substitute for White Nationalist.
Confrauderpets.
My first thought would be that they always think that compromising between right and wrong somehow gets the answer; so The Compromised Middle could work.
Another thought would be to riff on that song Stuck in the Middle with You (originally by Stealers Wheel but has been covered enough that most people will have some familiarity with it).
Since a lot of moderates want to consider themselves as the one reasonable person in the world and that song has connotations of moral superiority it could work to turn it back on them, such as Stuck in the Middle with 'You' (sorry don't know how to italicise words here). Or The Clowns and Jokers of the Middle.
Perhaps too wordy for true punch, but might hit the hipster demo.
I can't stick any more things into a reasonably compact word, heh.
@20: True Conservatives support strange men watching little girls pee
True Conservatives supports cutting off little girl's clits
True Conservatives support sharia law in America
True Conservatives support our soldiers dying for Israel
True Conservatives support fag marriage
True Conservatives support surrending to the left instead of fighting back
@6 You are assuming (((Shapiro))) is merely misguided and not a wolf in sheep's clothing
Whenever a Conservative supports a pro Israel or pro muslim position then call them a good goy/good dhimmi
VD wrote:[“Fake News”] is a term originally coined by the media, but stolen and deployed against them, and one that strikes at the very heart of their self-value and self-identification as devotees of truth and accuracy.
It works because they know their public self-identification as truthy is a lie. What part of how ‘moderates’ self-identify to others is a lie?
Final three for me.
Frauderats.
Fauxderpatsies.
Confrauderpettes.
Republicant's
Republicant's
Moderates are flexible - how about Limbo-Americans? How low can they go?
Windsocks?
Moderates believe they are fair and balanced. But since they seem to willfully ignore what's really going on, or ignore the real facts, they cannot truly be fair and balanced. So you have to mock that with your label. Obtuse?
You have it backwards again. Seriously, this isn't THAT hard. Look, the first step is to make a list of all the positive self-identified attributes they have. Here is a start:
Fair. Balanced. Thoughtful. Decent. Civil. Loyal.
Now, ask yourself this. What stuck with SJWs? What term do they hate? Was it Social Justice Cowards or Social Justice Warriors?
@64. Unamused, Fairweather Flappers?
Barbooricans.
"Jaywalkers", "Roadkill" or "Sunday Drivers", because of the phrase "middle of the road" used to describe a moderate position. Phrase such as "Learn how to drive!" "Stay in your lane!" or simply "Get out of the way!" could be effective responses to their moderate commtaries.
@59. Principled Dhimmi could be great. Sadly enough of them are so ill-informed on the topics they support that they might not even know the term.
Flexservatives
@70. Flexslave-a-shivs?
Split the Baby voters?
Bland band of brothers
Coexisterates
Loyal moderettes
@73. Les, how about just "Bland of Bothers".
Nothing has the bite of cuckservative.
Lanekeepers
Dodderflats?
House Honky Conservatives
“Balanced” feels useful, though that may be another one that only works in visual form. “Precariously balanced” would be accurate but not useful rhetoric.
“Thoughtful” isn't going to work because they actually believe themselves to be thoughtful people who can be reasoned with.
Hmm. They take pride in being ‘open-minded’.
Judeo-Christservative?
Fair. Balanced. Thoughtful. Decent. Civil. Loyal.
Perpetual Chin Strokers! Or maybe Incessant Chin Strokers.
Fenservative. Someone who is so preoccupied with sitting on the fence that it's become lodged up his ads.
Toyservative. Small. Cowardly. Impossible to take seriously. Like a toy poodle. Some good meme potential there maybe...
Broaderates.
I can't imagine anything topping Cuckservative. When I first came across it here I loved it. Short, to the point and funny.
Lol, toygoy has a nice vibe.
Roger Hill wrote:I can't imagine anything topping Cuckservative. When I first came across it here I loved it. Short, to the point and funny.
pre-servative. X-D
Fence squatters.
If not True Conservatives, perhaps Loyal(ist) Conservatives. It underlines the fact that, although they cloak themselves in patriotic and religious rhetoric, they are generally just foreigners loyal to the leftist agenda of the establishment and hostile to the country's centuries old principles (and they enjoy the paycheck such loyalty provides). And it is a reminder of the side they will be on in any armed struggle to defend those principles.
Knights Most True
Fence Huggers
"pre-servatives", they have one single use and they get tossed to the side like the disgusting cum containers they are, they break easily and rarely help preventing the spread of bad politics.
Immoral defenders
Loyalists might work, but that seems like it requires a bit too much historical knowledge to land much. (Plays on "Royalist".)
But we're not talking about TrueCons, we're talking about moderates. So riffs on "conservative" are beside the point, aren't they?
Besides, nothing's gonna top cuckservative for the (supposedly) right. But we're trying to find a slam for the roadkill in the middle now, aren't we?
Conservative Commander
Buckley's Bravest
And I still like Chin Strokers.
I like "toygoy" myself.
About the best I can come up with is Civil Snivelers.
Compromiseders
bazi-goy
Quislings
Useless Idiots
Respectables
Better Buckleys
Stiff Lower Lip
We already call them normies.....
Mr/Miss Oblivious
one word: "appeasers"
It raises the historical image of Neville Chamberlain.
"If asked to weigh the final solution, these appeasers would give Hitler 3 million jews instead of 6."
Placebo Americans
Ostrich Americans
Training Bra Republicans
Wee Peeners
The Harrumph Caucus
Pinky Pointers
Redundant Americans
The Sad! Caucus
Supplicant Americans
Masochist Americans
The Brain Damage Caucus
Dead Enders
Detritus Americans
The Chump Caucus
Chump Americans
Limp Dicks
The Penny Loafer Caucus
Sitzpinklers
Littlebits, as in a little bit of this and a little bit of that, and of course the obvious double meaning.
@99
Good point.... but the so-called 'center right' seems to be more a problem. Plus, I really don't know anyone who identifies as a pure, always in the middle moderate. They always seem to self identify as slightly one way or slightly another. Left Leaning Moderate... Right Leaning Moderate
Noblosers
Consistent Conservatives
Constant Conservative
Great Britain is ruled by The Conservative Party and as such twisting that party title into The Cuckservative Party strikes me as perfect rhetoric without need of improvement - although it can then only be used against those who support the said party. In America conservative is a term merely to indicate a political tendency and is thus perhaps less effective.
As SJWs are about as far from ones idea of a warrior as one can imagine Social Justice W..... anything you like, Wimps, Wankers, Wallies, Wannabes will deflate their pretensions.
The target here is moderates; why are people suggesting names based on "conservative" or "Republican"? Moderates don't identify as either of those, by definition.
I suck at naming things, but the point is to take something moderates call themselves or think of as a positive aspect of being a moderate, and twist it to mock them by showing it to be a lie. As Vox said, SJW works because they like to think of themselves as warriors, but when we use it mockingly, it reminds them that they'd pee themselves if they ever came face-to-face with a real warrior.
So, how do moderates see themselves? Why do they think they're moderates? Because that shows they're smarter and wiser than the "extremists" on both sides. They're better than the extremists because they're able to see value in both sides instead of just one. They don't get emotional and caught up in ideologies and movements. They can be trusted to dispassionately look past the emotional fighting and find the best solutions for everyone. "Moderates know best" could be their motto.
Now, what's the reality? Why are they moderates, really? I'd say it's primarily fear. Fear of being wrong, fear of taking a position and going out on a limb for it and then either losing or being shown to be wrong. Fear of looking foolish, being called names, or being caught in a socially unacceptable position.
So, what's a name that describes their superior-feeling, wiser-than-thou, seeing-both-sides position in a way that reveals the fear and unwillingness to take a stand for anything which underlies it?
I'm drawing a blank at that point, due to the aforementioned sucking at names. But that's where the sweet spot is going to be: mock their self-identification in a way that reveals their true nature. What do moderates call themselves that can be shown to be false by mocking it?
"Cuckservative" works because it involves a despicable sexual perversion.
The term should conjure an image of a prissy, fastidious coward who appeases his enemies, backstabs his friends, and prevents other people from defending themselves. Think of old Cox & Forkum cartoons.
Blindly Loyal
Thoughtful Racists
Dickless Wonders (is just an insult, but it'll hurt some)
Civil Nazis (More of a play on "Grammar Nazi")
Balanced Gestapo
It's a lot easier to brand a specific person, a large group takes time. I'm still amazed how brutal "#DraftOurDaughters" ended up being. It blew up on Facebook during the election because the rhetoric was so brillantly subtle.
wardens of vanilla
grand custodians
evenhanded shepherds
taintless pilots
halfway cowboys
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Difficult to come up with such a term for the Conservative Clown Posse.
I'm having a hard time thinking of a way to put it to a name, but I've got a good slogan for them: "Our Values Are Too Important To Fight For."
Conservative Commodores
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@117 Cail Corishev
They're the Fearful & Snooty middle. So the problem with finding rhetorical kill shots is they're actually a moving target the entire time.
Weathervanes?
While Dhimmi is not a term they'd like to call themselves, I thought Dhimmservatives or Dhimminutives had a nice ring.
Neutrals? Because as the ideological war heats up, that's what they're trying to be.
Call them Switzerlands.
Captain Conservative
Captain Americas
@123
They're "appeasers" in the true Chamberlain sense.
Faced with the opportunity to stand up to oppressive, genocidal, theocratic muslims, they choose to stand in the way of the defense of their own civilization.
"Oh, look, you're just a Weatervane".
Hmm... there's something in that direction.
Good Losers
Never win, readily accept defeat. More concerned about process and appearance than results.
"Obama Conservatives" made me laugh and I think its powerful.
Sensible submissives?
They view themselves as the reasonable adults, yet always submit and must be secretly ashamed of it.
#122 - But we're supposed to be coming up with names for moderates, not "conservatives."
Since they love being the useless and loyal 2nd place opposition opining on muh principles from their think tanks:
The Blue Ribbon School
or
The Harlem Globetrotters
PMS - proud moderate spectator
This isn't something they would notice or take offence in. It can't be weaponized.
But I like the acronym nonetheless.
It's not easy to come up with effective name for them. SJW's at least think of themselves as warriors, they want to fight, they invest themselves. What do moderates do?
117 Cail Corishev is on point.
That's the target to shoot at.
All Star Conservatives
Hollywood Conservatives
Wow, I can't even type my own attempt at a meme correctly. "Weathervane".
https://infogalactic.com/info/Weather_vane
"Weathercock" is acceptable as well! And it's a proper term. :)
Social Justice Squires
@BadPainter,
I do like "Good Losers" although I don't know if it would fit into Vox's guidelines.
Surprised no one yet has said:
Fake American
I think I saw it used on Heartiste's Twitter when he had one & the meltdown that ensued when used on moderates.
'Civil' is the killshot. Not only is it how they self-identify, but it cuts to the heart of their problem with the alt-right.
I'm no wordsmith, so I am unsure how best to weaponize it. But 'civil conservative', dripping with distain, emphasizing the first word, would be a start.
Or 'civilist'? Force them to confront the fact that all their other supposed values come a distant second.
Or what about 'civil warrior', one who engages in 'civil war' (and loses)?
Moderates think themselves as either apart from the fray or they pick & choose. However, we know they work by whichever way the wind is blowing, thus they're just a bunch of "Weathervanes".
A tad more sublte & not nuclear class as #FakeNews, but everyone should know what a Weathervane is. Which is kind of useful in the massive target we're after.
Pug wrote:What do moderates do?
Nothing, really.
Proposition Americans
Doorstop Americans
Conservmedats
Staunchists
Water Closet Warriors
I think the most effective shiv would be a play on 'Patriot'. They are patriots to other nations.
Cail Corishev wrote:The target here is moderates; why are people suggesting names based on "conservative" or "Republican"?
The same reason people are suggesting Frankenmanteaus: MPAI.
Looking Glass wrote:Moderates think themselves as either apart from the fray or they pick & choose. However, we know they work by whichever way the wind is blowing,
But do they know that?
If they do, “lemmings” would be better in that vein.
Concernative
Creepservative
Cowervative
White Knights.
The Moderately Principled
The Moderately Balanced
The Moderately Fair
etc
Jockstrap holder
Lol! This is kind of funny to read. After all of VDs lectures, I don't think the definition of rhetoric has really sunk in around here. Not that my suggestions will be any better, mind you...
The two most promising I have read here are:
Toy-goy and Transervative
Although, whoever brought up Steeler's Wheel now has Stuck in the Middle With Jew running through my head constantly. Thanks.
Chumpublican?
Chimpublican?
Limpublican?
Moderatrix?
Smoderates?
Shufflecocks?
Nice guy conservative
Bipartisaps
Ok, I think Vox's example of calling SJW's SJW's instead of some antonym only works well because they chose for themselves a name that was grandiose and 'self mocking'. Clearly they aren't warriors and they know it.
Following that logic conservatives should be called...
"Conserv"atives.
It turns their name back on them, while highlighting the nature of it that until now may not have seemed self-mocking - unlike SJW's it wasn't always obvious that conservatives conserved nothing. But just like SJWarriors are the furthest thing from being warriors, "Conserv"atives are the last people to actually conserve anything.
And for my own original rhetoric
Civil Loyalist
Going for that Agree & Amplify route..
Trojans
Betacons
Preservatives.
Cail Corishev wrote:The target here is moderates; why are people suggesting names based on "conservative" or "Republican"? Moderates don't identify as either of those, by definition.
I suck at naming things, but the point is to take something moderates call themselves or think of as a positive aspect of being a moderate, and twist it to mock them by showing it to be a lie. As Vox said, SJW works because they like to think of themselves as warriors, but when we use it mockingly, it reminds them that they'd pee themselves if they ever came face-to-face with a real warrior.
So, how do moderates see themselves? Why do they think they're moderates? Because that shows they're smarter and wiser than the "extremists" on both sides. They're better than the extremists because they're able to see value in both sides instead of just one. They don't get emotional and caught up in ideologies and movements. They can be trusted to dispassionately look past the emotional fighting and find the best solutions for everyone. "Moderates know best" could be their motto.
Now, what's the reality? Why are they moderates, really? I'd say it's primarily fear. Fear of being wrong, fear of taking a position and going out on a limb for it and then either losing or being shown to be wrong. Fear of looking foolish, being called names, or being caught in a socially unacceptable position.
So, what's a name that describes their superior-feeling, wiser-than-thou, seeing-both-sides position in a way that reveals the fear and unwillingness to take a stand for anything which underlies it?
I'm drawing a blank at that point, due to the aforementioned sucking at names. But that's where the sweet spot is going to be: mock their self-identification in a way that reveals their true nature. What do moderates call themselves that can be shown to be false by mocking it?
Hm. They see themselves as above it all, want to bring both sides together by being able to see both viewpoints. Peacemakers? Civil Peacemakers, maybe?
Paper fetishists
play off "principled"
"Principled Capitulators"
"Principled Appeasers"
"Principled Enablers" (of insert universally despised element here)
LurkingPuppy wrote:Cail Corishev wrote:The target here is moderates; why are people suggesting names based on "conservative" or "Republican"?
The same reason people are suggesting Frankenmanteaus: MPAI.
Looking Glass wrote:Moderates think themselves as either apart from the fray or they pick & choose. However, we know they work by whichever way the wind is blowing,
But do they know that?
If they do, “lemmings” would be better in that vein.
Come up with one, and show us how it's done.
Ten Gallon Twat
The post says the exercise is to come up with an alternative for cuckservative. It would therefore seem plays on the conservative label are appropriate. "Conservatives" are moderates (generally leftists) regardless of how they choose to self-identify.
one more I missed:
"Principled Fifth Column"
Problem with moderates is, they are bland. They don't stand out. In many ways they're all democrats. They're cowards; yellow star republicans.
spanish argento speaker here, but i'll give a try.
rotten as opposed to conserva
conservarottens
The Legislatively Correct
Moderate-Americans
Runservatives
Modcons
Fair and balanced
Mod cisgender with sissy,
sis-ervatives.
Or just go with cis-ervative.
Why not just call 'em what they are?
Gutless sellouts.
Flaccids.
Noble Consirvative?
"Civil preservatives"
"moderate preservatives"
"honest preservatives"
Modertraitors
Wisely indecisive?
Good boys
Mama Said's
Dudley Do-Rights
Chamberlains
Fairweather warriors
Failservatives
Swingers
"goy-servatives"
"converge-tives"
Conservative Socialists
Traitriots.
Comstitutional White Knights
"Failservatives" <---- ding! ding! ding! ding!
@153
I need to get this Rhetoric thing right in my own head. I admittedly stink at it. Why does it seem so entertaining and perfect when I read it from the likes of Vox, and yet so counter intuitive when I try employing it myself? I think I just haven't given it enough thought yet.
J A Baker wrote:Swingers
Ow. That could work.
Big Whigs
Or maybe some of us are overthinking it
Winston Churchill had some wonderful ways to identify his opposition. Time for me to review and culturally appropriate.
"The Spineless Wonders"
"B-Gamers"
"Muddle Management"
"Rocket Riders to Nowhere"
"Free Trade Zombies"
@188 LurkingPuppy
"Swingers" is definitely better than my "Weathervane", as it's in the same area but a lot more nasty. Also a good play on "Swing voter".
A name that sums up "winning is for losers"... Or "everybody wins if we take both sides". In fewer words and with more punch.
Cool Moms
Staunch defeatists
1. MBAs - Modern Benedict Arnolds.
2. PBSers - Principled Back-Stabbers.
3. TTCs - Thoughtful Turn-Coats (or Principled Turn-Coats (PTCs), or even Moderate Turn-Coats (MTCs).
4. Loyally Yellow.
5. Craven Conservatives.
6. Moderates = DFS - Decent, Fair, Spineless.
Neutrals?
I kinda like that one because it reminds me of Zapp Brannigan: "I hate these filthy Neutrals, Kif. With enemies you know where they stand, but with Neutrals, who knows? It sickens me."
It has potential because they think they take the neutral position because it's superior, but that's a lie. It needs a twist to expose that, though.
Moderapists
Centerfolds
For repubs, I think we're missing the gop acronym, and someone mentioned flexible so I propose
FOPs, Flexible Old Party(ers)
or
Mops for moderate.
For actual moderates, I imagine "the lukewarms" or "bench riders" as it implies uselessness as well as not playing the game.
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